[00:01] yeah, i didn't even have panels coming from winXp. certainly i didn't have docks. :) [00:01] you have to install other applications to add that kind of functionality to XP [00:01] with linux distros, its all open... you can literally make it your own [00:02] I'm pretty sure I can only use 1 distro at a time ;) [00:02] im not suggesting you use more [00:03] im suggesting that if you want, you can make the one distro you choose to run look and feel exaclty like you want [00:03] what are you running holstein [00:03] i have xubuntu on this machine, 11.10... im mostly running ubuntu 10.04 LTS most places [00:04] i have a crunchbang install im enjoying as well === robotman is now known as AlexAv === Guest43591 is now known as zkriesse_ === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse [02:38] how mature is the lubuntu software center these days? What are the chances of getting it running in Lucid? I'm about to give my mom a fresh lubuntu lucid install, and I don't know how well I'll be able to talk her through synaptics [02:39] craigbass1976: i wouldnt let a software center dictate what distro i install [02:39] its fine, but synaptic works... apt... aptitude [02:40] my mother is 60 and not savvy in the least [02:41] sure, so you should install what she needs, and lock it down [02:41] she shouldnt need to install software [02:41] anyways, theres also no reason *not* to run 11.10 [02:42] Is something up with the servers? It took me forever to get the iso last night. [02:43] craigbass1976: i usually cancel if i get a slow mirror, and start over right then [02:44] I gave up after two or three and just let 'er rip === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away [11:20] hi [15:11] hi there, I have a problem [15:11] I put in Preferred Applications Midori as my default browser but it open links with chromium [15:12] what file do I have to edit ? [15:13] smp: execute sudo update-alternatives --confg x-www-browser in terminal and choose midori as default [15:15] leszek: thank you very much === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse [16:09] lo' [16:09] made fresh install of lubuntu [16:10] looks very cool [16:12] any recommendations for GTK+ TeX editor? [16:51] lyx [17:06] uris: found TeXworks [17:06] oh, haven't heard about that one [17:06] used it on Win machine at one point [17:06] oh, cool. will give it a test drive :) [17:07] resembles TeXShop from Mac [17:08] I tried LyX couple of years ago but didn't like it [17:08] vim + shell is better imo [17:08] :) [17:08] yeah, its much more fun doing it in vim [19:43] hi there, can some1 tell me, why all new windows are spawned behind chromium-browser? [21:40] anyone use tango GSM? [21:43] GPS sorry [22:08] Does anyone know the command line one would use with "setxkbmap" to change a keyboard layout from the terminal? [22:12] Not just setxkbmap us _ [22:12] hmmm - that looks right Unit193 [22:13] which means I've done something wrong somewhere else :) [22:13] I tested with setxkbmap de :P [22:13] I'm trying to use this to get kbd switching attached to hotkeys: http://code.google.com/p/obkey/ [22:13] but I'm obviously doing something wrong [22:14] Can use it to launch, e.g., leafpad, but when I try to get it to switch a kbd, ... nothing. [22:14] Obkey looks like something that ought to be in Lubuntu, imo! [22:15] Except for [22:15] !info obkey [22:15] Package obkey does not exist in natty [22:16] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1883847 [22:17] I don't understand "!info obkey" - can you explain? [22:17] In order for it to be in Lubuntu by default, it has to be in the Ubuntu repos (That checked if it was) [22:17] !info firefox oneiric [22:17] 'oneiric' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable [22:17] Wow... [22:18] turned up something interesting, it seems [22:18] NO, just needs to be fixed as it doesn't have Oneiric (latest) enabled [22:18] (Sorry for caps) [22:19] !info firefox [22:19] firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 8.0+build1-0ubuntu0.11.04.3 (natty), package size 14838 kB, installed size 29608 kB [22:19] when I type "!info" into terminal, I get a bash message "event not found" [22:20] But about obkey :) all I meant a moment ago, was that Lubuntu needs an easy way to do keybinding. [22:20] Doesn't seem straightforward at the moment. [22:22] Does LXDE have a menu editor yet? [22:23] not a gui one [22:23] There's a project for someone [22:23] there's a number of forum threads mentioning that [22:24] and maybe some "wish-list" type things in the big Lubuntu 12.04 thread [22:27] I know the Xfce people were peeved that they lost menu editing capabilities [22:28] Xfce currently works with alacarta (the one that's spelled correctly) [22:30] Yeah, but they used to have their own before 4.6 [22:30] Btw - just got Obkey to change kbd's for me - I must have been using a bad hotkey combination before. [22:30] Not sure what happened to it [23:02] helo [23:02] hello elo elo lo [23:03] ? [23:05] are u alive? [23:07] !ask [23:07] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [23:23] !ask [23:23] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [23:23] !patience [23:23] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [23:24] lalala: Do you have a question? [23:24] :) yes, hope someone can help me [23:24] im thinking about bying an intel classmate 3 [23:25] it has only 1gb ram and 1,6ghz processor [23:25] but its has a touchscreen [23:25] i'd like to run realtime audio processing stuff on it, so i need the ram ... thats how i came to lubuntu [23:26] is it easyly possible to set up the touchscreen in lubuntu? [23:27] i found drivers on eturbotouch.com [23:27] but they are for ubuntu and X [23:27] or linux kernel ... [23:29] i found in puredyne a library called tslib (for touchscreens) [23:29] I haven't used touchscreen, but Lubuntu does use the same core as Ubuntu [23:31] but ubuntu uses X window and lubuntu not? [23:31] the drivers are for x window [23:31] Yes, Lubuntu uses X [23:33] LXDE is then something different, no window manager? [23:34] It's a window manager, running on the X window system. Are you talking about XFWM/Xfce? [23:36] guys my lame laptop makes so much noice [23:36] noise [23:36] wht wud that come from ? [23:37] @ xsaidx: fan? [23:37] Unit193: any ide ? [23:38] Well, I'd think maybe fan, you could try dusting it out (spray can) [23:38] lalala: yeh i guess so i tried to open it but coudnt make it [23:38] ok im quite a newbi ... sorry what is the difference between lubuntu and ubuntu? if a device is supported in ubuntu its also supported in lubuntu? is just the packaging different? can i pack my own lubuntu version to add for example the touchscreenlibrary? [23:39] @xsaid: i read once about the tool fancontrol [23:40] @xsaidx: maybe this helps? [23:40] lalala: Unit193 yeh i ned that thnigy i guess [23:41] lalala: lubuntu its based on ubuntu but it uses diffrent desktop environement which is lxde whiche lighter a lot then gnome [23:43] ah cool slowly i get it ... so the difference is ubuntu -gnome lubuntu-lxde peripheral devices are controlled by what ?? [23:44] by kernel? X window? Gnome/ lxde?? [23:51] in xubuntu touchscreens seem to work ... where can i see the content of the lubuntu package? [23:59] lalala: well im jsut like i dont kon muxh but what i kno the kernel talks to your hardwar ok [23:59] so the chief its the kernel