[01:17] i have a pcap i want to replay on my network. hwo can i do that === Guest43591 is now known as zkriesse_ === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse === Guest7071 is now known as zkriesse [03:04] help please....set up XP/10.04LTS dual booot....worked fine for several months...now will only boot from windows media....will not boot anything linux...not even from a live CD....help please [03:05] N7OKL: what live CD? the same one? [03:06] could be you got a kernel upgrade, and that broke something... look in your grub list for an older kernel to try and boot [03:07] have tried several different live cd....nothing linux will boot......could it be a windows virus that has messed up bios? [03:07] N7OKL: have you tried the same one? the 10.04 one you installed with? [03:07] yup....will not boot from it [03:07] otherwise, you could be booting newer kernels that dont support your graphics card.. a kernel that you could have upgraded to [03:08] N7OKL: OK... then that does *not* support my theory [03:08] N7OKL: i think thats got something to do with the media, or the way you are trying to boot from the bios or something user error related [03:08] i still say, try booting an older kernel in the list... kernel upgrades break things sometimes [03:09] made an image of just the windows instal and the dual boot using clonezilla....will not boot from that disk either [03:09] N7OKL: right.. i think something is up with your hardware then [03:09] the rom drive, the ram... the motherboard [03:09] i would test the ram and swap out the rom drive [03:10] try and use the *exact* same disc you installed ubuntu with, then you know the iso is known good [03:10] think it might help to go back to the windows factory restore and update the bios? [03:10] N7OKL: ? [03:11] take the hard drive out if you like [03:11] you need to troubleshoot why CD's arent booting [03:11] check cables [03:11] check connections [03:13] have spent 4 hours trying 4 versions of linux (all work on my desktops) and 3 'repair tools' (again, work fine on my desktops)...so far, the only thing it will boot from is the windows partion and the windows factory restore disk [03:13] N7OKL: right, so take the hard drive out of the equation [03:13] check the connection and cables to the rom drive [03:14] swap that out if you have a spare [03:14] test the ram with a live CD when you get it booting [03:14] double check the bios settings [03:14] Will try that....will you be around in an hour or so? [03:14] maybe [03:14] someone is always here :) [03:14] ok..... [03:14] i might crash [03:14] but im logged in [03:15] must be a few hours ahead of me....near Seattle, WA [03:34] Hi.. === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away [05:58] ok....can use clonezille to backup an image to an external hard drive....how do I do it to span DVDS? [06:00] is there a live cd that will back up a drive image to DVDs? [07:01] hi, does anybody know how to make jasperserver (of jasper reports) get permissions to write files === stinkfist__ is now known as stinkfist\ === stinkfist\ is now known as ArizonaBay [14:33] anyone alive? [14:34] yeah, i am ;) [14:34] just ask your question de_horse_ ;) [14:35] nice... another insomniac or up early for work [14:35] or east coast i guess lol [14:37] europe ;) [14:52] where is everyone? === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse === samsul is now known as samsul|linglung === samsul|linglung is now known as samsul === yofel_ is now known as yofel === amithkk is now known as sabsui12 === sabsui12 is now known as sansui12 === sansui12 is now known as amithkk [16:39] question: my network applet is gone. when I run nm-applet I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/765083/ [16:39] it is still in my startup applications, but has just disappeared :/ [16:44] anybody able to help? [16:45] Hm. Which Ubuntu release? [16:45] 10.04 [16:45] deper29: Then the notification area has probably just been removed from your panel for whatever reason. [16:46] Right-click panel -> Add to panel -> notification area [16:46] gah! easy. thanks :) [16:46] :) [16:46] fixes everything perfectly :) [18:02] I recently installed Ubuntu 11.10 and never really used Linux before except for Mac OS X. I downloaded Firefox 8.0.1 from the Mozilla website and cannot figure out how to install files with the file extension it had. [18:04] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you really want to be using a package manager rather than downloading it from the website, there are some instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion [18:04] What [18:04] I am still in the Linux for Dummies stage [18:05] that link I gave has instructions :) [18:05] I know 20 years of windows and 19 months of Mac OS X [18:05] you don't want to download from the mozilla website, you want to follow the directions on that link I gave [18:06] I have always used the Mozilla site for all my OS [18:06] typically in Linux things are installed using the Software Center (or similar package installer), you very rarely want to go to a website to download software like you would in Windows [18:07] I went to the google website and downloaded Chrome and it installed with no issue [18:07] chrome is one of the exceptions, since Google maintains a repository for it that you can use with the Software Center [18:08] is that what they call a .deb file [18:08] a .deb file is a software package, in the case of Chrome it not only installs the package, but also adds itself to the Software Center so you get updates too [18:09] firefox doesn't do this, so you need to look at the instructions I linked [18:09] Is a .deb file in linux do something a similar to what a .exe file does in windows [18:10] similar to an .exe installer file [18:10] but you don't run a deb to launch a program like you would run an exe [18:10] a .deb just installs stuff [18:10] !software | SthrnDixieCwgrl [18:10] SthrnDixieCwgrl: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents [18:10] thanks Unit193 :) [18:11] pleia2: No problem :) [18:11] * pleia2 gets back to her work [18:12] so the deb file i downloaded for Chrome to install it on Ubuntu is just like me downloading the exe file for it in windows to install it on that OS [18:13] For the most part, yes, but installing stuff in Ubuntu isn't the same as for Mac OS X and Windows [18:14] i learned where the applications are installed in mac (/Applications/ Have a look at either https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromMacOSX There are a few locations the bins are located in, but normally you could just open a terminal and type the name (eg, chrome ) [18:19] I went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion and it took me to https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable and then I cannot figure out from that list which one I want [18:22] There should be something called "Ubuntu Software Center" in your "start" menu, if you open that and search for Firefox, you should get the new one [18:24] It came with Firefox 7.0.1 and I went to Help>about to check for updates and that option was not there, so I uninstalled firefox and went to the Mozilla site to get the new version [18:25] is there a specific reason you need the new version? [18:25] stabilithy [18:25] it ships with 7.0.1 because it's fully tested and secure, newer versions may not be as much [18:25] pleia2: 8 is in repo, I think she just needs to run updates [18:26] 7.0.1q is outdated [18:26] 7.x is old [18:26] Unit193: aha, you're right :) [18:27] SthrnDixieCwgrl: Unit193 is correct, just open the "Ubuntu Software Center" and install firefox, you will get 8.0 [18:28] If i get it from software center it is a 78.0MB download but if I get it from Mozilla it is a 16.2MB download [18:29] Why is there a 61.8MB difference [18:30] i have never had to download a file over 70MB for a web browser [18:30] That'll get the rest of the programs it needs, that also may be installed size, not download size [18:30] The install size according to software center is over 100MB [18:31] 188MB when installed [18:33] Does it tell you what depends it's also getting? [18:34] I don't know [18:35] Also Adobe wants to give me an apt file for flash player [18:35] what ever that is [18:36] Adobe Reader downloaded a bin file [18:38] Java gives me a bin and a .rpm.bin files to download [18:39] No, that's NOT how you normally install things in Ubuntu. There have been a few links to guide you to how you're supposed to do it [18:39] !java [18:39] To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. [18:40] I tried to install java and it says Could not display "/home/ I cannot install Adobe Flash Player and Adobe Reader either [18:43] For Java, you have to enable the "third party repository" and for flash, search the Software Center, not their site [18:43] evening [18:45] I still cannot get adobe reader to install [18:45] Ubuntu comes with a PDF reader already, it's just not called "Adobe Reader" and flashplugin-installer should be3 the thing to install (IIRC) [18:46] I like Adobe [18:46] hello Unit193 [18:46] Howdy, tuxampol [18:47] that is why I want that one installed [18:48] Well, if you have to have Adobe Reader, you can install it via the repo once you enable the "Partner Repo" [18:48] !partner [18:48] Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [18:49] terminal is where [18:49] I cannot find the Utilies folder in the Applications folder [18:49] hobgoblin: You use Unity, where is the terminal? [18:50] I use xubuntu [18:50] I ccannot find/Applications/Utilities/Terminal [18:51] It's in Accessories [18:51] Where is /Applications/Utilities [18:51] Part of the menu, so Menu > Accessories > Terminal [18:51] :-/ [18:51] what [18:52] SthrnDixieCwgrl: go to the ubuntu symbol at the the top - click it = when you get the dash open - just start to type terminal and it will show up - then click on it [18:52] in Mac OS X terms [18:52] Me Mac OS X 10.6 and 10.7 user [18:52] I need translation [18:52] if not try - Alt+F2 then type terminal in the box and enter [18:53] run a command [18:54] what command? [18:54] it's of no use telling me what a thing might be in Mac - closest I get is walking past the apple shop [18:54] I pressed Alt+F2 and it said on the screen run a command [18:55] oic - try terminal or gnome-terminal [18:55] I am a mac/Windows person I have used Linux/Unix/Ubuntu for about 5 hours [18:55] I have used Mac for 19 months and Windows 20 years [18:56] yep - that's cool - just let me get my virtual thing going and I'll see if I can help you some [18:56] the only thing i know about unix is Mac os X is based on it and there are no viruses [18:56] but - the first thing to try and get is that it is much easier and simpler to install from repositories than getting stuff from sites [18:57] I have used Windows since 3.0 so what does that tell you [18:57] Tells me you beat me by one version point ;) [18:57] lol [18:57] I have been a Bill gates follower for many many years [18:57] I take it you started with Windows 95 [18:57] SthrnDixieCwgrl: the hardest thing is going to be that it is different [18:58] No, 3.1 [18:58] I forgot about 3.1 and 3.11 [18:59] I know in windows if you download a file you double click on it and follow the instructions on the screen [18:59] yep - different here :) [19:00] I went to Mozilla and downloaded Firefox 8.0.1 and it gave me a tar.bz2 file [19:00] what is that [19:00] liek a zip file - just a different format [19:00] then I went to adobe to get reader and it gives me a bin file [19:01] lol [19:01] then while at that site i went to get Flash player and I get a apt file [19:01] what is apt [19:01] Bin is easier to handly actually [19:01] let's just do one thing at a time [19:01] does that mean apartment [19:01] One at a time is a good idea [19:01] java.com gave me 2 files, one is a bin file the other a rpm.bin [19:02] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you don't want rpm's ever [19:02] well not now anyway [19:02] I need a windows converter [19:02] What is wrong with RPM files [19:02] It's used in RedHat based systems, you're using a Debian based system [19:02] different format of packaging fro applications [19:03] SthrnDixieCwgrl: ok - got the vm up now - have you got the terminal open yet? [19:03] Hi folks. Can anyone explain or link to a good description of what the "Users folders update" does? [19:03] (startup service) [19:04] SthrnDixieCwgrl: so one at a time what are you trying to accomplish [19:04] All I know is that I went to Ubuntu.com and downloaded the iso file, burned it to a disc and used wubi.exe to install it [19:04] i just want my java/Adobe plugins and firefirefox [19:05] have you got the terminal open yet? [19:05] When i made the change to Mac OS X I need a Windows to mac OS X translation guide to tell me this is the windows term and in Mac OS x it will now be called this [19:06] LemonAid: "Update common folders names to match current locale" [19:06] LemonAid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11415/which-startup-applications-can-i-safely-turn-off [19:07] When ubot told me to use « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » terminal told me command not found [19:07] SthrnDixieCwgrl: shall we deal with firefox? [19:07] I saw the description and also looked at the answer before asking here, didn`t help me much. Thanx anyway. [19:08] LemonAid: This is also a good one to check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1326766 [19:08] I have the firefox-8.0.1.tar.bz2 file downloaded [19:08] Unit193, that looks like it might actually help. Thank you! [19:09] SthrnDixieCwgrl: thats not the way you want to do it [19:09] are you trying to get the latest firefox? [19:09] if you use that then everytime it updates then you need to get the new file - there is a way to add a stabe updated version without [19:09] yes since I don't have it at all on Ubuntu 11.10 [19:09] SthrnDixieCwgrl: we use a package manger for everything.... its not like windows in that, you dont go to each place to get updates.. you set the package manager sources, and update all at once [19:10] http://pastebin.com/xyDDQbgs [19:10] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you dont have firefox? you go to the software center and search firefox.. you can search flash there as well [19:10] then why does Mozilla give you the option to download it [19:10] SthrnDixieCwgrl: ? [19:10] run those commands in a terminal SthrnDixieCwgrl and it will set you up with the latest stabel [19:10] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you dont *have * to do it this way.. its just easier [19:11] then, you dont have to bother with manual updates [19:11] it came with 7.0.1 and when i went to help.about there was no chek for update option so I removed it from the system and went to mozilla to get the current version [19:11] SthrnDixieCwgrl: its more like OSX is that regard.. with the system updates that come in all at once, and some key apple components are updated there as well [19:11] SthrnDixieCwgrl: sure... i can give you a ppa for the current stable build [19:11] SthrnDixieCwgrl: look at http://pastebin.com/xyDDQbgs [19:11] that will get you what you want [19:11] https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable [19:12] i have Chromium and google chrome installed are they the same thing [19:12] are they technically the same browser [19:12] Chromium is the OpenSource "version" of Chome [19:12] SthrnDixieCwgrl: sure.. and you can add the source for firefox stable, and get updates automatically [19:13] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable [19:13] sudo apt-get update [19:13] SthrnDixieCwgrl: then, you can look in the software center, or apt-get install firefox, or whatever you are comfortable with [19:13] holstein: those are all in the pastebin ... [19:15] I went to terminal and i put in sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable followed the on screen instructions and i still have no firefox installed [19:15] SthrnDixieCwgrl: right. that gives you the source for the updated firefox [19:15] Now paste sudo apt-get install firefox [19:15] sudo apt-get update updates the package list on the machine [19:15] Unit193, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1326766 got me to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491 witch is actually the sort of guide i needed in the first place, so thanx for the help :) [19:15] and sudo apt-get install firefox installs the firefox back that you removed [19:16] LemonAid: Awesome, glad that helped! [19:16] That is a good one [19:20] Where is the option When updates to firefox are found Ask Me what I want to do [19:20] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you can take a screenshot if you need.. but i assume you are talking about your plugins [19:21] thats going to depend on if mozilla has kept support for your plugins [19:21] I have that option in Firefox for windows and Mac OS X but not in Ubuntu [19:21] SthrnDixieCwgrl: "that" option? [19:21] SthrnDixieCwgrl: OH [19:21] yeah, its all in the package manager [19:22] you dont go to each application and upgrade them [19:22] SthrnDixieCwgrl: its all done at the same time by whatever tool you choose [19:22] I have it where the browser will not upgrade to the next version unless it asks first [19:22] the upgrade manager for example [19:22] it'll popup, and check for upgrades [19:23] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you dont ask FF to upgrade... in ubuntu, its more of a 'set it and forget it' kind of thing [19:23] I went to Tools>Options>Advaned>Update in Firefox in Windows [19:23] SthrnDixieCwgrl: right [19:23] SthrnDixieCwgrl: its different [19:23] SthrnDixieCwgrl: its in the upgrade manager that you will look now [19:24] SthrnDixieCwgrl: this is considered a convenience by some.. i know i prefer it [19:24] I like that option that Firefox has for the Windows version and that option also exists in the Firefox application in Mac OS X [19:24] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you can run the windows version of FF in wine [19:24] i do not like applications updating without my knowledge [19:24] you can run windows in virtual box [19:24] you can run linux in virtual box [19:24] there are literally all kinds of options to get *exactly* what you want [19:25] SthrnDixieCwgrl: the upgrade manager can be set to do whatever you choose [19:25] In Windows I have the wuapp.exe (Windows Update) set to the option Check for updates but let me choose to download and install them [19:25] by default, i believe it checks and repots [19:25] i have that set for a reason [19:25] it will not upgrade automatically [19:25] SthrnDixieCwgrl: rigth [19:25] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you can mirror that workflow [19:25] in the upgrade manager [19:26] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you dont do it for *each* *individual* *application* though [19:26] you do it once in the upgrade manager [19:26] if I didnt then windows would download updates for Outlook 2010 when i do not have that part of Offie installed [19:26] Office [19:26] why install an update for a program that you do not have installed [19:26] SthrnDixieCwgrl: right... the upgrade manger is checking the sources for upgrades to libreoffice.. FF.. chrome.. everything [19:27] SthrnDixieCwgrl: that doesnt happen [19:27] have you used windows [19:27] you have applications installed, and they get upgraded [19:27] SthrnDixieCwgrl: yes [19:27] What is the Ubuntu version of Windows Update [19:27] SthrnDixieCwgrl: loits of us have - we have all been where you are [19:27] update manager [19:27] which is where [19:27] SthrnDixieCwgrl: there is none.. its entire system upgrade [19:27] everything all in one go [19:28] SthrnDixieCwgrl: update manger is what the application is called [19:28] meaning when i go from version 11.10 to 11.x that will be me using the Ubuntu version of windows Update [19:28] SthrnDixieCwgrl: if you are new to ubuntu/linux, i would say, take your time, and "get your feet wet" [19:29] if you used the older version of FF, it wouldnt hurt anything... security patches are applied to 11.10 for 18 months [19:29] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you will go from 11.10 to 12.04 *if* you choose [19:30] that will be kinda like using windows Update for Ubuntu [19:30] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you can use that upgrade tool, or the command line.. or synaptic [19:30] synaptic is the manufacturer of my trackpad [19:30] SthrnDixieCwgrl: synaptic is a package manager [19:30] and you cannot find driver for Ubuntu for it [19:31] but i can find the Windows drivers for it [19:31] you can install packages, you can upgrade the system.. its similar to the software center [19:31] SthrnDixieCwgrl: the linux kernel is modular [19:31] if drivers can be included, they generally are.. is your touchpad not working? [19:31] synaptics made the mouse thing in my laptop [19:31] SthrnDixieCwgrl: yes... is it not functionign? [19:31] there are no linux drivers for it but there are Windows drivers [19:32] Just remember that Synaptics and Synaptic are different [19:32] SthrnDixieCwgrl: ? [19:32] SthrnDixieCwgrl: so, its not working? [19:32] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you dont need drivers the same way as in windows [19:32] again... i suggest taking your time, and getting used to the way things work [19:33] SthrnDixieCwgrl: please - do you actually want help with specific issues - or are you now just trying to tell us the differences between linux and windows - if that is the case - we know the differences :) [19:33] my touchpad/trackpad/mouse thing is made by synaptics.com [19:33] whoever they are [19:33] SthrnDixieCwgrl: there are several reasons why you wont see linux drivers for download [19:34] they arent needed in a lot of cases [19:34] they are just "in the kernel" typically [19:34] and, vendors that dont support linux, just dont support linux [19:34] so, we either go around them, or deal with the breakage [19:34] cause there are about 5 billion different kinds of linux/unix/ubuntu out there [19:35] all having a penguin for there logo [19:35] ? [19:35] SthrnDixieCwgrl: linux is the kernel, and its opensource [19:35] *anyone* can use it as they please [19:35] just the few subtle differences you are pointing out should give you an idea as to why there would be so many different versions [19:36] with different funcionalities [19:36] the last time i used linux was redhat 5.0 whenever that version first came out [19:37] I needed an elective in college and the only way i passed the course was that every test we had was open book [19:37] cool... that will help [19:37] that is how i passed and if it was not opened book then i would have failed [19:38] SthrnDixieCwgrl: yup.. i understand.. openbook tests.. you didnt really absorb anything... [19:38] but, i still say, i think that experience will help you :) [19:38] The closest thing I came to Unix after that was making the move to Mac OS X in may 2010 [19:38] from the time I had that red hat course to making the move to Apple I was a WINDOWS user [19:39] I went to Apple where the hardware plays well with each other unlike with Windows [19:39] yeah, its easier when there is a smaller base of hardware [19:40] and the 3 years of misery with Vista [19:40] i mean, its not fair to compare the 2 really... things that dont work in OSX, just literally dont work [19:40] Microsoft bringing back Windows Me and turning it into a NT version of Windows [19:41] That is what vista is Windows Me on an NT platform [19:41] what were they thinking [19:41] both went in the garbage [19:42] vista is the reason I went to Apple [19:42] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you get FF upgraded? [19:42] you might want to try #mac or #windows for those other questions/comments [19:43] is there a way that you can the the File edit View et menus to permanently stay on the sreen when using Firefox [19:43] or one of the ubuntu-offtopic channels.. otherwise... im glad you found us SthrnDixieCwgrl , and welcome! [19:43] hi squaregoldfish [19:43] Hi [19:43] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you right click and have the main menu shown, correct? [19:45] I right clicked in firefox and there is no main menu option [19:45] SthrnDixieCwgrl: 'menubar' [19:46] ticking the 'menubar' option gives the space at the top of the screen back to the file menus [19:46] there is no mun bar and the option for me to enable that does not exist [19:46] SthrnDixieCwgrl: would you like me to take a screenshot? [19:46] SthrnDixieCwgrl: There should be a "Firefox" thing next to the tabs, click that and go to Preferences > Menu Bar [19:47] Navigation addon Boomarks tabs on top customize [19:47] which one do I choose [19:48] menu bar SthrnDixieCwgrl [19:48] is it not in the list? [19:48] Navigation addon Boomarks tabs on top customize [19:48] those are the choices [19:48] pick one [19:49] SthrnDixieCwgrl: please relax and be patient... we are all volunteers here... thanks :) [19:49] * holstein is uploading a screenshot [19:50] if i right-click next to the tabs i get a Menu bar option [19:50] in windows 7 [19:50] http://imagebin.org/187826 SthrnDixieCwgrl [19:50] SthrnDixieCwgrl: i dont know what plugins you have that might break that functionality [19:51] i have all of them options except in menubar [19:51] SthrnDixieCwgrl: not sure what to suggest... maybe open up in safe mode or whatever... could be your config [19:52] I dont have any plugins since the adobe flash player and Adobe reader files form adobe and the java plugin from java.com will not install [19:52] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you get java and flash from the software center [19:52] SthrnDixieCwgrl: would you like to share a screenshot? [19:52] would you like to temporarily remove you .mozilla directory? [19:52] of what [19:52] would you like to reinstall? [19:53] SthrnDixieCwgrl: can you do this - close firefox and then start it from a terminal like this firefox -safe-mode [19:53] screenshot of what [19:53] then see if you get the menu bar as an option [19:53] hobgoblin: i like that... that'll bypass the config right? [19:53] yep [19:53] holstein: SthrnDixieCwgrl: would you like to share a screenshot? [19:53] of what [19:53] SthrnDixieCwgrl: ? [19:54] the issue SthrnDixieCwgrl [19:54] what do i need to share a screen shot of [19:54] the problem.. the lack of menu [19:54] SthrnDixieCwgrl: whatever you think might help me help you [19:54] I have a .apt flash plaer file from adobe [19:54] a bin file for adobe reader [19:54] SthrnDixieCwgrl: lets work on one thing at a time please [19:54] and a .bin and .rpm.bin files for java from java.com [19:54] do you want to sort out flash? or the menu? or java? [19:54] dont forget adobe reader [19:54] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you open the software center and search 'flash' [19:55] OR, the browser and search 'installing flash in ubuntu 11.10' [19:55] I opened software center to find Adobe reader and it did not find it [19:55] that is why I went to adobe.com [19:56] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you can also search more generla [19:56] gerneral* [19:56] you can find a pdf reader [19:56] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you were told you needed the partner repo enabled - adobe reader is available - bit it is called acroreader [19:56] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AcrobatHowTo [19:56] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you already have a pdf reader installed anyways [19:56] SthrnDixieCwgrl: have you opened firefox in safe mode now? is the menu option there [19:57] what [19:57] SthrnDixieCwgrl: can you do this - close firefox and then start it from a terminal like this firefox -safe-mode [19:57] I have firefox opened [19:57] have you done that ^^ as asked [19:57] SthrnDixieCwgrl: this will bypass your configs [19:57] twice [19:58] open a terminal and type that it, or copy and paste [19:58] firefox -safe-mode [19:58] right click and see if you have the 'menubar' option [20:00] no [20:00] I found dom.disable_window_open_feature.menubar [20:01] and dom.disable_window_open_feature.menubar [20:02] that is something completely different [20:05] I was in about:config [20:06] SthrnDixieCwgrl: and im afraid you have tweaked around in there, or somewhere else, and broken it [20:06] thus, we will be wasting time trying to sort it out [20:06] you can look for .mozilla, and temporarily move it out of the way [20:07] what [20:07] *or* just relax about it for a bit, and 'get your feet wet' [20:07] remember, these are not things you would have been doing your first day using windows [20:07] I am stuck with a non-working firefox and chromium which is NOThING like google chrome [20:07] great [20:07] SthrnDixieCwgrl: install chrome [20:07] whats not working about FF? [20:07] reinstall it [20:08] remove the config directory [20:08] I wonder if the initial removal of firefox caused this [20:08] yup [20:08] thats where my money is... [20:08] SthrnDixieCwgrl: how did you uninstall FF? [20:09] I used software center [20:11] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you would need to give us *exactly* what you have done so far [20:11] and we would need to undo it [20:13] I remvoed FF7.0.1 using software center [20:13] right, and downloaded some things, and read something, copied and pasted who knows what [20:14] SthrnDixieCwgrl: did you do a lot of things in a terminal - or not until you got here? [20:14] I never installed FF 8.x until I was told to open terminal and type in sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable [20:14] SthrnDixieCwgrl: you can boot up the live CD you installed from and see how FF is behaving [20:14] which I did and followed the instructions on the screen [20:15] SthrnDixieCwgrl: i need to run, but i say take it easy, and spend some time in the default included applications... more like how you probably used OSX and windows at first [20:15] ubuntu is quite full featured and customizable, and we can and will help you as much as we can ! [20:15] enjoy :) [20:16] i did nothing else to firefox after i installed it until I went to some web site and it told me that i had a missing plugin and it sail I was missing something called IcedTea java whatever that is [20:17] the only Java I know is from Sun (it was Sun now it is now known as Oracle)\ [20:18] I am now stuck with a browser that is worth garbage and one that is broken [20:19] I hate chromium and Mozilla does not work [20:19] now i am going to have to format Ubuntu and reinstall it to fix it [20:20] there is 3 hours right there [20:20] really? takes 20 minutes here [20:21] it took me 3 hours last time [20:22] now the only way I can get firefox to work is to reinstall the entire OS [20:22] if this was Mac OS X or Windows I coulod uninstall and reinstall it [20:23] and it would be fixed [20:23] well perhaps you should do that - linux is not windows - if it doesn't work for you then use what does [20:23] if you want something fixed in Ubuntu uninstall the os and reinstall it to fix it [20:23] only when you break it yourself and can't fix it [20:23] I should not have to do that for one application [20:24] such is life - but to be honest I am not at all sure that you actually came here for help - you've spent more time talking about windows and mac [20:25] there is nothing compatible with this operating syustem [20:25] adobe reader is not ompatible [20:25] adobe flash player is not ompatible [20:25] java is not compatible [20:25] firefox is not compatible [20:25] I am stuck with hromium and I don't even know what that is [20:26] if you want help backing up stuff to make the update after an install a bit quicker then I am happy to help you [20:27] but why did it take 3 hours to install it - what hardware are you using? [20:27] think Hewlett-packard [20:27] How do you boot with GRUB by not using the menu driven interface, but by using the GRUB command line? (i can`t reboot my system at the moment) [20:27] that is probably the issue right there [20:28] SthrnDixieCwgrl: was it all working before you did what is normal in windows and got stuff from the internet? [20:28] I used wubi.exe to install it [20:28] oh [20:28] right [20:28] That's the major one [20:28] I can understand what the problem you have is now [20:28] i burned Ubuntu to a disc and used wubi to install [20:28] I wish that people would say at the outset that it's wubi :( [20:28] LemonAid: You should just be able to hold left shift as it's booting [20:29] LemonAid: what exactly is happening? [20:29] that is the only way I found easiest to install [20:29] k [20:29] SthrnDixieCwgrl: can you do this please - we need some very important info if we are going to be able to help [20:30] open a terminal again and then run this command - the l is a lower case L [20:30] firefox is broken and I have something in appplications called chromium whatever that is [20:30] Unit193, thanx. hobgoblin, nothing, i`m just messing around with the GRUB configuration file :) [20:30] sudo fdisk -l [20:30] LemonAid: /etc/default/grub right? [20:31] LemonAid: you seen the wiki for grub? [20:31] Unit193, /boot/grub/grub.cfg. [20:32] hobgoblin, yes i did. Have not read it fully though. [20:32] LemonAid: if you fiddle with that then it gets reverted after any update that updates that file - better to do things with the various scripts [20:32] hobgoblin, i saw that it gets reverted [20:34] SthrnDixieCwgrl: what do you want to do - we have no real idea of what you have done to get where you are and hence we are not going to be able to get you back again [20:34] What i was actually planing on doing was not let anyone boot into any os without a password, but as it turns out, you can get around that by using the command line interface (not the menu driven one). [20:35] you can stop recovery mode appearing in the menu - but that could be an issue if you need to use it :p [20:36] not even sure if it asks for root password if you enable it either [20:40] I no longer have an internet browser [20:40] so does firefox not work at all - or is that you can't get it to do what you want? [20:41] it apparently was crippled in the install and that is why that option was not there [20:41] how? [20:42] what is crippled about it - trying to get a straight answer is not proving very successful here at all [20:43] personally I would reinstall - I'd not use wubi either [20:43] i cannot use a browser with no menu bar [20:43] so I removed it [20:46] instead of finding out how to get it [20:46] Ehm.. it has a menu bar. It`s only visible when you roll over it. [20:47] well good luck with whatever you choose to do SthrnDixieCwgrl [20:49] I don't use web browsers where the menubar does not stay there permanently [20:49] If I cannot enable a feature to show the menubar then I do not use the browser or application [20:52] That means I have no web browser on ubuntu [20:53] In case you don`t know it, this is how all the applications behave in Ubuntu if you use the Unity Interface. [20:54] use what [20:56] The Unity interface is the default interface for Ubuntu since 10.04(i think) -> the way Ubuntu looks when you first install it. [20:58] I went to terminal and ran sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt to see it that will remove it [20:58] (well, not all aplications, but firefox is one of them)