[02:46] <khoover> heeeeeeeeeeeelp
[02:47] <khoover> bloody touchpad isn't working, and yet it seems like xorg's picking it up
[03:10] <bregma> khoover, if you install the xinput package and run 'xinput list' does it show something that looks like the touchpad?
[03:11] <khoover> yeah, i'm looking at my xorg.conf.d/synaptics file, there's only an entry for "touchpad catchall"
[03:16] <khoover> bregma, trippy bit is, if i look at the xorg.0 log, seems like the thing boots up fine.
[03:25] <bregma> your xorg.conf.d/synaptics sounds right
[03:25] <bregma> si xinput list shows your touchpad device?
[03:25] <bregma> s/si/so/
[03:25] <khoover> yeah
[03:26] <bregma> if you run "xinput test 15" (or whatever the device number is) does it spit out numbers?
[03:27] <khoover> yep, all sorts
[03:27] <bregma> well, X is seeing it and treating it right from the sounds of it
[03:27] <khoover> buuuut, it's not working....have a usb mouse plugged in, it works fine
[03:28] <bregma> and nothing else has grabbed it and not let go
[03:28] <khoover> doubtful, rebooted and it wouldn't work
[03:28] <bregma> you're right, it's most odd
[03:28] <khoover> not even evtest could get anything
[03:29] <khoover> it's an elantech, but i'm seeing synaptics all over
[03:30] <bregma> synaptics is just the name of the generic touchpad driver in x.org
[03:30] <bregma> evtest may not give you output in an X window if X has the device open, you would have to run it as root from a non-X console window (ctl-alt-f1 etc)
[03:30] <khoover> huh? thought it was a specific manufacturer, like alps
[03:31] <khoover> ctrl alt f2?
[03:31] <bregma> yes, like kleenex and xerox
[03:31] <bregma> ctrl alt f2 would also give you a non-X console to run evtest in
[03:31] <khoover> and nothing logged
[03:31] <khoover> or, least, don't think anything logged
[03:32] <bregma> are you sure you have the right /dev/input/event device?
[03:32] <bregma> X gets its input from the dev node, and if xinput shows motion events, evtest should
[03:33] <khoover> wait, xinput?
[03:33] <khoover> not xlist?
[03:34] <bregma> hmm, I don;t have xlist on my system, but I did say xinput
[03:36] <khoover> sorry, xinput list
[03:39] <khoover> yeah, even when i do test, nothing
[03:40] <khoover> works for everything else
[03:40] <khoover> bregma,
[03:42] <bregma> hmm, if evtest and xinput test show no data, the kernel is not sending data -- is this a laptop with a 'disable touchpad' function key?
[03:42] <khoover> i dunno
[03:42] <khoover> crap, yes. -_-
[03:42] <khoover> just realized i hit it cause i had no idea what it was
[03:42] <bregma> heh
[03:42] <khoover> while my laptop was frozen
[03:43] <khoover> this is why they ask, "is it plugged in"
[03:43] <bregma> problem solved?
[03:44] <khoover> yep
[03:47] <khoover> can now leave #ubuntu...that place is chaos
[03:47] <bregma> absolutely
[04:29] <willwh> it is
[04:30] <willwh> it's horrible :)
[04:30] <willwh> I don't know how people get help in there tbh
[04:30] <willwh> I've tried a couple of times - but it's mostly newbs screaming, dpkg-reconfigure X
[04:30] <willwh> hahaha
[04:30] <DarwinSurvivor> bahahaha, disable-button 1, khoover 0 :D
[04:32] <DarwinSurvivor> I think the #ubuntu channel needs to be a triage channel, then send people to #ubuntu-x11, #ubuntu-packagin, #ubuntu-drivers, etc for real help. There's just WAY too many people in there!
[04:32] <willwh> yes
[04:32] <willwh> that is actually quite a good idea
[04:32] <DarwinSurvivor> do you know about how many "helpers" are in there?
[04:32] <willwh> no idea whatsoever
[04:33] <DarwinSurvivor> that system only works if there are enough helpers to cover a few more channels
[04:33] <willwh> yes
[04:33] <DarwinSurvivor> if it's 100 helpees vs 4 helpers, there's not much that can done :(
[04:33] <DarwinSurvivor> *be done
[04:33] <willwh> I would happily idle in ubuntu-packaging :D
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[23:06] <dscassel> Oh yeah, there's an IRC meeting next week...
[23:06] <dscassel> Anything anyone wants to talk about?  I'm writing up the agenda.
[23:13] <DarwinSurvivor> never been to an ubuntu-ca meeting, what kind of stuff gets discussed