[02:46] heeeeeeeeeeeelp [02:47] bloody touchpad isn't working, and yet it seems like xorg's picking it up [03:10] khoover, if you install the xinput package and run 'xinput list' does it show something that looks like the touchpad? [03:11] yeah, i'm looking at my xorg.conf.d/synaptics file, there's only an entry for "touchpad catchall" [03:16] bregma, trippy bit is, if i look at the xorg.0 log, seems like the thing boots up fine. [03:25] your xorg.conf.d/synaptics sounds right [03:25] si xinput list shows your touchpad device? [03:25] s/si/so/ [03:25] yeah [03:26] if you run "xinput test 15" (or whatever the device number is) does it spit out numbers? [03:27] yep, all sorts [03:27] well, X is seeing it and treating it right from the sounds of it [03:27] buuuut, it's not working....have a usb mouse plugged in, it works fine [03:28] and nothing else has grabbed it and not let go [03:28] doubtful, rebooted and it wouldn't work [03:28] you're right, it's most odd [03:28] not even evtest could get anything [03:29] it's an elantech, but i'm seeing synaptics all over [03:30] synaptics is just the name of the generic touchpad driver in x.org [03:30] evtest may not give you output in an X window if X has the device open, you would have to run it as root from a non-X console window (ctl-alt-f1 etc) [03:30] huh? thought it was a specific manufacturer, like alps [03:31] ctrl alt f2? [03:31] yes, like kleenex and xerox [03:31] ctrl alt f2 would also give you a non-X console to run evtest in [03:31] and nothing logged [03:31] or, least, don't think anything logged [03:32] are you sure you have the right /dev/input/event device? [03:32] X gets its input from the dev node, and if xinput shows motion events, evtest should [03:33] wait, xinput? [03:33] not xlist? [03:34] hmm, I don;t have xlist on my system, but I did say xinput [03:36] sorry, xinput list [03:39] yeah, even when i do test, nothing [03:40] works for everything else [03:40] bregma, [03:42] hmm, if evtest and xinput test show no data, the kernel is not sending data -- is this a laptop with a 'disable touchpad' function key? [03:42] i dunno [03:42] crap, yes. -_- [03:42] just realized i hit it cause i had no idea what it was [03:42] heh [03:42] while my laptop was frozen [03:43] this is why they ask, "is it plugged in" [03:43] problem solved? [03:44] yep [03:47] can now leave #ubuntu...that place is chaos [03:47] absolutely [04:29] it is [04:30] it's horrible :) [04:30] I don't know how people get help in there tbh [04:30] I've tried a couple of times - but it's mostly newbs screaming, dpkg-reconfigure X [04:30] hahaha [04:30] bahahaha, disable-button 1, khoover 0 :D [04:32] I think the #ubuntu channel needs to be a triage channel, then send people to #ubuntu-x11, #ubuntu-packagin, #ubuntu-drivers, etc for real help. There's just WAY too many people in there! [04:32] yes [04:32] that is actually quite a good idea [04:32] do you know about how many "helpers" are in there? [04:32] no idea whatsoever [04:33] that system only works if there are enough helpers to cover a few more channels [04:33] yes [04:33] if it's 100 helpees vs 4 helpers, there's not much that can done :( [04:33] *be done [04:33] I would happily idle in ubuntu-packaging :D [14:49] Howdy all [23:06] Oh yeah, there's an IRC meeting next week... [23:06] Anything anyone wants to talk about? I'm writing up the agenda. [23:13] never been to an ubuntu-ca meeting, what kind of stuff gets discussed