[00:19] <bryceh> Sweetshark, RAOF is on vacation returning Monday
[00:22] <Sweetshark> bryceh: and since he was foolish enough not to log out of IRC, he will find half a page of text /msg'ed there ;)
[00:23] <bryceh> Sweetshark, if it was about an X issue, anything I could assist with?
[00:31] <Sweetshark> bryceh: it was about an X issue I showed RAOF at UDS. The "start center" of libreoffice has clipping errors on intel drivers.
[00:32] <Sweetshark> quote: 19:42 < mst_> i've unfortunately tried to invesitgate why the clipping line breaks the start center...
[00:32] <Sweetshark> he did that down to all the X calls and found out LO did everything right.
[00:34] <Sweetshark> so it is definitly an X issue. (And I have high sympathy for the guy walking through LOs X11 layers).
[00:35] <bryceh> yikes yeah
[00:36] <bryceh> Sweetshark, what's the bug # for it?  Would you like me to raise the issue with Intel?
[00:45] <Sweetshark> bryceh: heh, cant find any bug #, mybe it got lost between the cracks at UDS.
[00:46] <Sweetshark> bryceh: should I open one, or do you want to take care of it?
[00:46] <bryceh> Sweetshark, if you don't mind opening one, and paste in the information mst found, that would be quite helpful, I can take it from there
[00:46] <Sweetshark> mst_ is a RedHat guy and likely will try to escalate on their side too btw ...
[00:46] <bryceh> oh, and if you can take a screenshot (or photo) showing the bad clipping, that'd help
[00:47] <bryceh> Sweetshark, what are the steps to reproduce it?
[00:48] <Sweetshark> bryceh: a) have intel driver b) open libreoffice startcenter (with the libreoffice command, not one of the applications directly)
[00:48] <Sweetshark> thats it.
[00:49] <bryceh> heh, yep I reproduced it
[00:49] <Sweetshark> you will have unpainted areas on the left and right of the start center.
[00:50] <bryceh> Sweetshark, I see it
[00:51] <bryceh> Sweetshark, I can take care of filing the bug if you want to just shoot me mst's findings
[00:52] <Sweetshark> bryceh: please do
[00:52] <bryceh> got it, thanks.
[01:43] <bryceh> Sweetshark, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/901959, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43649
[01:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 901959 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Clipping in libreoffice welcome screen" [Medium,Triaged]
[01:44] <bryceh> Sweetshark, and emailed Eugeni about it
[05:11] <pitti> Good morning
[05:13] <pitti> hyperair: new poppler> chicken-and-egg problem; they said they won't update poppler until there are patches available for all packages; we are now down to porting four packages, so it's going well
[05:13] <pitti> ogra_: rsyslog doesn't log to a single file
[05:35] <pitti> TheMuso: hello Luke, how are you?
[06:28] <didrocks> good morning
[06:30] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ca va?
[06:32] <didrocks> hey pitti, excellent! (still a little bit of neck pain, but hopefully almost over). We went yesterday evening to the event next to our home for the "fetes des lumières"
[06:32] <pitti> ah, sweet! we went for badminton and sauna again
[06:32] <didrocks> was really nice, some people attached to a balloon which was going up and they make some aerobic
[06:32] <didrocks> pitti: nice! :)
[06:33] <didrocks> pitti: playing to badminton with your wife?
[06:33] <pitti> and I'm really looking forward to this evening's Wise Guys concert
[06:33] <didrocks> (and a pyrotechnic final ;))
[06:33] <didrocks> what kind of music it is?
[06:35] <pitti> it's an a-capella band; five guys: three voices, one bass, and one who has an awesome talent of "playing the drums" with just his mouth and a mike
[06:35] <pitti> they make mostly ironic/humorous songs, but also some really great ballads
[06:36] <pitti> and some rather experimental things, like a ragtime or the "Goldeneye" song
[06:36] <didrocks> oh, sounds really great! :)
[06:36] <didrocks> hope you will enjoy it!
[06:36] <pitti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onL78i_7GKE is where they introduce themselves, a really nice concert opener
[06:36] <pitti> didrocks: I will :)
[06:37]  * didrocks looks
[06:38] <pitti> it's awesome how the sound builds up with one to five people
[06:43] <didrocks> pitti: I just listened to the opener song and yeah, it's impressive ;)
[06:44] <pitti> didrocks: I guess you didn't understand a lot, though
[06:47] <didrocks> indeed ;)
[07:49] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[07:49] <pitti> hey chrisccoulson
[07:49] <chrisccoulson> hi pitti, how are you?
[07:53] <pitti> chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! how about yourself?
[07:53] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, not too bad thanks
[08:07] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson, how are you?
[08:18] <baptistemm> hey there
[08:31] <hyperair> pitti: great, thanks.
[08:32] <pitti> mvo: guten Morgen
[08:34] <pitti> mvo: I think I found a reasonably small and reliable reproducer for bug 850264 now, and added it to the description
[08:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 850264 in apt "given a foreign architecture of i386 on amd64 machine, and an outdated libc, apt tries to remove libc-bin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850264
[08:34] <pitti> mvo: but now I'm afraid I'm out of my wisdom :( any idea what goes wrong there?
[08:35]  * pitti adds problem resolver debug output
[08:40] <rodrigo_> hi
[08:41] <pitti> hey rodrigo_
[08:42] <rodrigo_> hi pitti
[08:43] <didrocks> good morning rodrigo_
[08:43] <didrocks> reboot needed to test some stuff, brb
[08:47] <mvo> pitti: thanks! I try this now
[08:47] <mvo> pitti: btw, could you (or some other archive admin) please review/binary-NEW the release-upgrader-apt build package (release-upgrader-libapt-pkg-dev IIRC)
[08:47] <pitti> mvo: oh, of course
[08:48] <mvo> thanks!
[08:48] <pitti> mvo: I'm looking into the lucid->precise dist-upgrade failure now, FYI
[08:48] <pitti> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-upgrade/PROFILE=lts-ubuntu,label=upgrade-test/67/artifact/lts-ubuntu/main.log
[08:48] <pitti> the precise-upgrade test is the only remaining red (failed) one on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/
[08:48] <pitti> but nice to see so much green there now :)
[08:51] <pitti> mvo: release-upgrader-libapt-pkg-dev ships /usr/include/apt-pkg/*.h
[08:51] <pitti> oh, nevermind
[08:51] <pitti> Conflicts: libapt-pkg-dev
[08:51] <pitti> and only a b-dep, so not relevant
[08:52] <pitti> dear pitti, think before you type
[08:52] <pitti> mvo: binNEWed, will watch the queue for the other package which should start building in 30 mins
[08:54] <mvo> awsome, thanks pitti
[08:57] <pitti> RAOF: still here?
[08:57] <pitti> Sarvatt: ^ or you?
[08:57] <ogra_> pitti, oh, i thought daemon.log, messages etc were merged into syslog in natty
[08:57] <pitti> ogra_: correct
[08:58] <pitti> ogra_: but there's still kern.log, auth.log, mail.log, daemon.log, and whatnot
[08:58] <ogra_> hmm,ok
[09:21] <mvo> pitti: I followed up i nthe bug and see if I can backport the fix easily, its in a mass of abi brekage
[09:22] <mvo> breakage even
[09:23] <pitti> mvo: oh, there's a fix already?
[09:23] <jibel> pitti, there was the same problem in the upgrade from lucid -> maverick
[09:23] <mvo> pitti: I think so, current trunk seems to work with the testcase and I think I know what commit fixed it, so lets see
[09:24] <mvo> if I can isolate this one and do a hotfix upload
[09:24] <mvo> there is more goodness in trunk, but its likely to break abi again soon, so a targeted fix is a better option
[09:24]  * pitti hugs mvo
[09:27]  * mvo hugs pitti
[09:28] <mvo> but really, all kudos go to donkult, he is a hero
[09:30] <pitti> "Holding back xserver-xorg-core rather than change xserver-xorg-video-6"
[09:30] <pitti> thanks apt for letting me know why
[09:36] <pitti> yay, got it
[09:37] <mvo> what is it/was it?
[09:38] <Sweetshark> Moin!
[09:39] <didrocks> good morning Sweetshark
[09:42] <pitti> hey Sweetshark
[09:42] <pitti> mvo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/902077/comments/2
[09:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 902077 in xorg "lucid->precise upgrade holds back X.org video drivers" [High,Triaged]
[09:43] <pitti> mvo: do we need to be concerned about upgrades where universe is not available?
[09:43] <pitti> mvo: some X.org video drivers went to universe, and thus they don't have a newer version to upgrade to without universe
[09:43] <pitti> mvo: this will hold back the whole X.org stack
[09:43] <mvo> pitti: I think we should try to address this, but the release-upgrader can do that (and we release note it)
[09:43] <pitti> now, if people are actually _using_ one of these, this would actually be right
[09:44] <mvo> pitti: yeah, that is the problem, what if that is the case :/
[09:44] <pitti> if not, it'd be better to remove them
[09:44] <mvo> but could add a check in the release-upgrader
[09:44] <pitti> mvo: but I now know how to at least fix the upgrade with universe enabled
[09:44] <pitti> hacking /var/lib/apt/lists/*_Packages on the fly is really handy for this :)
[09:45] <mvo> your fix sounds good
[09:45] <mvo> heh :) yeah!
[09:45] <pitti> mvo: so could we add a quirk like
[09:45] <pitti> "if you don't have universe enabled, remove these 5 packages"
[09:45] <pitti> ?
[09:46] <mvo> eah
[09:46] <mvo> yeah
[09:46] <pitti> mvo: ok, I'll add a task for this then
[09:46] <mvo> thanks!
[09:46] <pitti> thanks to you!
[09:49] <Sweetshark> git using 6GB res and counting ....
[09:49] <pitti> mvo: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/update-manager/+bug/902077/comments/3 possible?
[09:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 902077 in xorg "lucid->precise upgrade holds back X.org video drivers" [High,Triaged]
[09:49] <pitti> Sweetshark: urgh
[09:50]  * Sweetshark is is happy he added swap for nostalgic reasons to that machine ...
[09:51] <Sweetshark> pitti: git repack -ad --window --depth 70 over ~50 full LibreOffice binaries taking its toll
[09:52] <Sweetshark> (full binaries= full install with all libs etc.)
[09:52] <mvo> pitti: yes, should be it deends on where exactly it breaks in the resolver what to do, ideally we would just mark them for removal in the apt cache and not actually remove them before running do-release-upgrade, but that will need some testing
[09:52] <pitti> mvo: infinity just chiming in on #u-devel FYI
[09:52] <mvo> pitti: but if its "just" holding them back, that should be fine, we can easily work around it
[09:53] <pitti> mvo: no, you can't upgrade if you keep teh old version installed
[09:53] <pitti> you need to remove them or install the precise one
[09:53] <mvo> it will break hard in the relsolver when it tries to calculcate the upgrade?
[09:53] <pitti> yes
[09:53] <mvo> meh, ok
[09:54] <pitti> lucid's drivers depend on x-x-video-6
[09:54] <pitti> while precise's depend on -10
[09:54] <pitti> (X.org video ABI change)
[09:54] <pitti> i. e. the old drivers would just crash the current X.org
[09:56] <mvo> right, sorry, I think I did not express very well what I meant. so if the stack is hold back, we can do the "mark_upgrade, mark_delete" dance entirely in the apt cache in d-r-u and make sure everything is right (x upgraded, universe drivers removed). if the resolver breaks hard, we may need to actually remove them from the system *before* d-r-u is calculating the upgrade.
[09:56] <pitti> mvo: ah, right
[09:56] <pitti> mvo: that's a trick you can't do with sudo apt-get
[09:57] <mvo> indeed, in the release notes we will have to describe the workaround like you did, but we may do it all in one go in d-r-u
[10:02] <mvo> pitti: fwiw, I run the auto-upgrade-tester locally now to see if I can easily reproduce the issue (and a potential fix)
[10:03] <pitti> mvo: for the libc-bin bug?
[10:03] <mvo> for the xserver issue
[10:04] <pitti> mvo: I didn't upload -nouveau/-vesa yet
[10:09] <mvo> ok
[10:15] <pitti> E: release-upgrader-python-apt: arch-dependent-file-in-usr-share ./usr/share/release-upgrader-python-apt/apt_pkg.so
[10:15] <pitti> mvo: ^ nitpick, but I won't binReject it due to this
[10:18] <mvo> pitti: oh, indeed, I will do another upload with /usr/lib/ as the base
[10:18] <mvo> pitti: thanks for pointing this out
[10:18] <pitti> mvo: NEWed, anyway
[10:19]  * mvo hugs pitti
[10:19]  * pitti hugs mvo back
[10:19] <pitti> mvo: it's a "fix upgrades" day!
[10:20] <mvo> yeah
[10:21] <pitti>  o python2.6: libpython2.6 python2.6 python2.6-dbg python2.6-dev python2.6-doc python2.6-examples python2.6-minimal
[10:21] <pitti>     [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from python2.6, python2.6, python2.6-dev]
[10:21] <pitti>     [Reverse-Recomends: python-apt (MAIN)]
[10:21] <pitti> mvo: ^ something else to fix :)
[10:21] <pitti> mvo: I can do that for you if you want
[10:21] <pitti> I'd rather not steal your time on the actually complicated stuff :)
[10:24] <mvo> pitti: not sure that I understand this output, is it about the suggests line that is bogus?
[10:24] <Sweetshark> meh, git hits a brick wall at res 7.2GB under swapping. restarting this on the 16GB machine.
[10:25] <pitti> that's insane; does that operation really need the whole repo in memory?
[10:28] <Sweetshark> pitti: yes, it diffes all objects of all times being "near" to each other to compress them. one could limit the memory usage, but I dont want that.
[10:29] <Sweetshark> and since i was at 80% done on the 8GB machine, it should complete on the 16GB machine without swapping.
[10:42] <didrocks> pitti: ppa area really really slow right now, can you please bump https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/staging/+build/2996286 and https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/staging/+build/2996285 ?
[11:21] <mvo> pitti: new release-upgrader-python-apt upload with the path change we talked about earlier, no rush, I get some lunch now anyway
[11:49] <pitti> didrocks: done
[11:51] <pitti> mvo: accepted
[11:52] <pitti> mvo: py2.6> component-mismatches claims it's a recommends, not suggests
[11:52]  * pitti apt-get updates and checks
[11:53] <pitti> hmm
[11:55] <pitti> mvo:
[11:55] <pitti> Package: python-apt
[11:55] <pitti> Version: 0.8.3ubuntu1
[11:55] <pitti> Recommends: lsb-release, iso-codes, python2.6, xz-lzma
[11:55] <pitti> Suggests: python-apt-dbg, python-gtk2, python-vte, python-apt-doc
[11:57] <pitti> python-apt (0.8.0ubuntu6) oneiric; urgency=low
[11:57] <pitti>   * debian/control:
[11:57] <pitti>     - remove recommends of python2.6
[11:58] <pitti> mvo: ^ seems this popped back up; I'll just fix it, ok?
[11:58] <pitti> came back in version 451
[11:58] <mvo> pitti: oh, yes
[12:00] <pitti> mvo: hm, when I bzr bd -S, data/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors disappeared
[12:01] <pitti> ok, works with debuild
[12:02] <pitti> uploaded/pushed
[12:03] <didrocks> pitti: thanks! I'll probably have a unity-2d build to bump as well :)
[12:05] <pitti> didrocks: bring it on :)
[12:15] <didrocks> pitti: here it is: https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/staging/+build/2996489
[12:15] <pitti> didrocks: got it a VIB ticket :)
[12:15] <didrocks> pitti: excellent, thanks \o/
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, time to restart firefox. it became unusable again :/
[12:48] <didrocks> pitti: so, the unity-2d built failed because of nux ABI break and no unity rebuild since then, can I still abuse of your kindness and ask you to bump https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/staging/+build/2996687 (then, once built, I'll ask for a rebuild of unity-2d and harrass you again ;))?
[12:48]  * didrocks tries to ensure everything is cleaned because going on vacation
[12:59] <tjaalton> chrisccoulson: hey, do you want to review the nss/nspr merges I did last week, or should I just upload? I tested them on precise
[13:00] <chrisccoulson> tjaalton, feel free to upload, i've not had a chance to review them yet
[13:00] <tjaalton> cool, will do
[13:02] <tjaalton> hmm, maybe I'll hold off until monday, so if there _are_ issues in then I can fix it right away :)
[13:30] <tkamppeter> pitti, hi
[13:31] <pitti> didrocks: heh, no worries; bumped
[13:31] <pitti> hey tkamppeter
[13:31] <didrocks> great! as soon as it's published, I'll poke you for unity-2d again and crossing fingers :)
[13:32] <tkamppeter> pitti, I would like to get an new Ghostscript SRU to -proposed today, as next Wed I get already EoY and I would like to have the users testing already before.
[13:32] <pitti> tkamppeter: sure; can you build it with -S -v9.04~dfsg-0ubuntu11.2 to include the current changelog, too?
[13:33] <tkamppeter> pitti, can you move the current SRU into -updates? It is trivial, only a Proposed: added, so this can go into -updates to free -proposed for the next one.
[13:34] <pitti> OTP, bbl
[13:34] <tkamppeter> pitti, and the bug of that one is already verification-done.
[13:35] <pitti> tkamppeter: ok, sure; I'll have a look in a few mins
[13:35] <pitti> so go ahead and upload
[13:38] <tkamppeter> pitti, OK, the new SRU is for bug 898532 and bug 902145.
[13:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 898532 in gs-gpl "Some characters replaced by others when converting PDF to PostScript" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898532
[13:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 902145 in ghostscript "ps2write Problem with indexed CMYK Colorspace images" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902145
[13:40] <tkamppeter> pitti, uploaded.
[13:46] <pitti> tremolux, mvo: about half of the software-center bugs in the pending SRU are still unfixed in precise; is that a changelog problem or did these really not land in trunk yet?
[13:49] <tkamppeter> pitti, bug 898532 and bug 902145 updated.
[13:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 898532 in gs-gpl "Some characters replaced by others when converting PDF to PostScript" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898532
[13:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 902145 in ghostscript "ps2write Problem with indexed CMYK Colorspace images" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902145
[13:51] <Sweetshark> pitti: git operation finished and it was well worth it: 53 LibreOffice binary installs in 749 MB
[13:51] <pitti> Sweetshark: how big was it before?
[13:51] <Sweetshark> pitti: thats <15MB per test build
[13:51] <Sweetshark> pitti: ~4GB
[13:51] <mvo> pitti: I'm pretty sure that is a changelog problem, let me double check, generally we have a pretty good trunk<->oneiric merging policy
[13:51] <pitti> Sweetshark: wow, that's quite a saving
[13:52] <Sweetshark> pitti: but keep in mind that it contains 53 full install images a ~450MB!
[13:53] <Sweetshark> pitti: they would be 22GB as in total ...
[13:53] <pitti> Sweetshark: but I guess they each differ by just a bit
[13:55] <Sweetshark> pitti: they differ at least 64 commits on master
[13:56] <Sweetshark> pitti: in total, they span some >5000 commits
[13:56] <pitti> cyphermox: hm, most of the bugs that the evolution upload refers to are already "fix released" in oneiric??
[13:56] <cyphermox> yes, but there were also re-closed in the upstream changelog :/
[13:56] <cyphermox> pitti: also, got a question for you, please don't approve evo right now
[13:57] <pitti> cyphermox: ok; with already closed bugs I don't want to accept it anyway
[13:57] <cyphermox> pitti: I uploaded an update to evo for precise, re-enabling pst-import which ended up missing -- that requires libpst which was brought back to main for precise
[13:58] <cyphermox> how do you deal with a component mismatch for SRUs? I need libpst to SRU the missing plugin, but it's in universe on oneiric?
[14:02] <pitti> cyphermox: right, so you can't upload that change to oneiric right now
[14:03] <cyphermox> ok, can't upload at all?
[14:03] <pitti> cyphermox: we'd need a libpst in oneiric-{propsed,updates} first which we can then move to main
[14:03] <cyphermox> ok
[14:04] <cyphermox> pitti: "no-change rebuild for promotion to main" ?
[14:05] <cyphermox> with an accompanying bug, of course
[14:05] <pitti> cyphermox: right; but I guess you alreayd have a bug for "missing PST import"?
[14:05] <cyphermox> I do
[14:05] <pitti> you can add a task there, as it belongs together
[14:05] <cyphermox> sure
[14:15] <didrocks> pitti: so, unity is built! Now, can you still use your god's power for https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/staging/+build/2996763 (and so crossing finger it will fix the FTBFS because of the ABI break in nux for unity)
[14:15] <pitti> didrocks: kicked
[14:15] <didrocks> pitti: thanks a lot ;)
[14:21] <Sweetshark> pitti: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/What-is-bibisect-And-what-is-it-doing-in-my-office-td3572953.html <- there it is.
[14:21] <Sweetshark> pitti: I prolly will blog about that too.
[14:22] <tkamppeter> pitti, can you approve the new GS SRU upload? Thanks.
[14:22] <pitti> tkamppeter: yes, was waiting for the diff to pop up
[14:26] <tkamppeter> pitti, thank you very much.
[14:26] <pitti> tkamppeter: np, thanks to you for fixing!
[14:41] <pitti> kenvandine: hey Ken, how are you?
[14:41] <pitti> kenvandine: I need to leave a bit earlier today and Seb is on holiday; would you be able to join the release meeting for desktop today?
[14:41] <kenvandine> hey pitti
[14:41] <kenvandine> sure
[14:41] <pitti> kenvandine: I already prepared/sent the report, and all that
[14:41] <kenvandine> great
[14:41] <pitti> it's just for questions
[14:42] <pitti> kenvandine: thanks, I greatly appreciate; it's at 1600 UTC
[14:42] <kenvandine> i'll be there :)
[14:42] <pitti> kenvandine: cheers!
[14:45] <didrocks> pitti: sweet, unity-2d is fine again the ppa. Thanks a lot for kicking the builder. I'll be able to go on vacation with a light heart :)
[14:46] <pitti> heh, glad to hear!
[15:36] <pitti> oh, Riddell doing uploads again
[15:36] <pitti> Riddell: how are you?
[15:36] <pitti> Riddell: and welcome back!
[15:38] <Riddell> pitti: thanks, taking it gently for now
[15:40] <didrocks> hey, welcome back Riddell :)
[15:44] <pitti> Riddell: you're still in one piece, and at home?
[15:47] <Riddell> pitti: yes I am
[15:47] <Riddell> although without working heating alas
[15:50] <kenvandine> Riddell, ugh... turn on more computers :)
[15:50] <tremolux> pitti: hello! so, I've gone through all the bugs for the software-center 5.0.3 SRU for Oneiric and verified they are indeed fix released in Precise
[15:51] <pitti> tremolux: ah, splendid; thanks!
[15:51] <tremolux> pitti: and have marked them as such
[15:51] <pitti> tremolux: I'll review the SRU then
[15:52] <tremolux> pitti: yw, it seems like LP didn't update them automatically on release, but the changelogs are good, etc...strange
[15:53] <tremolux> pitti: and thank you!
[15:53] <pitti> tremolux: accepted; thanks!
[16:08] <desrt> Riddell: are you going to be at the sprint in january?
[16:10] <Riddell> desrt: no that's a bit too much for my poor head just now
[16:10] <desrt> shame
[16:11] <desrt> wotsap says that you're my most-desired gpg keysign in the ubuntu community :)
[16:14] <Riddell> I feel so elite
[16:22] <didrocks> ok, time to go for the "fêtes des lumières" and enjoy some holidays :)
[16:22] <kenvandine> didrocks, enjoy!
[16:22] <desrt> didrocks: cheers
[16:22] <ogra_> didrocks, oh, have fun !
[16:22] <didrocks> Thanks ;) see you next year everyone! (will be probably connected to IRC for some ubuntu-fr stuff)
[16:23] <kenvandine> have a great holiday!
[16:23] <didrocks> thanks kenvandine, you too when it will be time for them :)
[16:32] <pitti> kenvandine: thanks for joining the meeting
[16:32] <kenvandine> np
[16:32] <pitti> kenvandine: I wasn't sure when desktop turn was; we did speed up the meeting format, but it's not quite predictable
[16:33] <kenvandine> yeah
[16:43] <pitti> good night everyone, have a nice weekend!
[18:16] <mterry> merging gedit in precise
[19:09] <maxb> What in Ubuntu starts syndaemon on user login to Unity?
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> mterry, is patching g-c-c to export the background to accountsservice teh right thing to do?
[19:09] <maxb> Somehow I'm getting two copies of syndaemon started, and their "disable touchpad during typing" is racing with each other and permanently disabling the touchpad for the duration of the X session
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> why don't we have g-s-d monitor that setting and do it instead?
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> that breaks if i change my background from firefox, doesn't it?
[19:11] <mterry> chrisccoulson, hmm, I hadn't thought of firefox.  I assumed the only typical UI path would be through g-c-c.   g-s-d is better, you're right
[19:12] <chrisccoulson> sorry, i hope you didn't spend too much effort on that :)
[19:13] <mterry> chrisccoulson, even if I had, my own damned fault.  ;)
[19:22] <dobey> why does firefox seem to always have 10-20 wakeups per second?
[19:23] <dobey> and why does compiz have about 50
[19:53] <mterry> merging gnome-terminal
[20:13] <mterry> and vte