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JarGonBusterI was using MS visio, I want to know some of its alternatives for ubuntu00:11
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* skaet waves15:58
* ogra_ shores15:58
mdeslaur\o15:58
* skaet giggles at the shores remark15:59
ogra_:)15:59
jibelo/16:00
mlegris\o/16:00
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skaet#startmeeting16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Fri Dec  9 16:01:11 2011 UTC.  The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.16:01
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skaet[TOPIC] Release general overview - skaet16:01
skaetAgenda can be found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-12-0916:01
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skaetIndividual team status links will be added to it from: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/thread.html;   this has been done with the past ones.16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetDuring round table Q&A time,  please post link to your mail message, and any additional comments.  When you've finished comments/questions signal by ".."16:01
skaetIf you want to ask a question,  please "o/" so we know to wait for you.16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetSchedule for this release will be at:16:01
skaet#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule16:01
skaet#link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetWe've now passed Feature Definition Freeze,  and status tracker has been reset.16:01
skaetThere are now  2278 work items (up from 2084 on 2011/11/25), and we're starting to fall below the trend line (partially due to additional items being added).16:01
skaetPlease review your items and make sure status is accurate.16:01
skaet#link  http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/16:01
skaet .16:01
skaetBugs committed to be fixed by the engineering teams can be found:16:01
skaet#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html16:01
skaetBugs that you would like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, should be assigned to specific teams, so they can be found.16:01
skaet.16:02
skaetUpcoming Dates:16:02
skaet• 2012/01/16 - Last weekly meeting of 201116:02
skaet• 2012/01/06 - Weekly meeings resume16:02
skaet• 2012/01/09 - DebianImportFreeze16:02
skaet• 2012/02/02 - '''Alpha 2'''16:02
skaet.16:02
skaetAlpha 1 testing of the new ISO tracker (http://91.189.93.73/) went very well.  :D.16:02
skaetA big thank you to stgraber, jibel, cjwatson and pitti and all the folks who tested the release!16:02
skaetIS has moved the tracker to the main servers and are working through a couple of glitches, but its new home is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/.    Daily testing results and bugs can now be logged there now going forward.16:02
skaet..16:02
ogasawaraskaet: are those meeting dates correct?  or show the first two be reversed?16:02
skaetogaswara,  good catch...16:02
* skaet has typo there16:03
skaetLast meeting is 2011/12/16 - ie. next week.16:03
skaetany other questions?16:03
skaetok,  time for the round table.16:04
skaet[TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris16:04
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mlegrishi all!16:04
skaet:)16:04
mlegrisA1 testing has been postponed16:04
mlegriswe have moved the testing period to after the holidays16:05
mlegristhis is due to restrains with vacations and testing pools16:05
skaeto/16:05
mlegrisyes skaet?16:05
skaetam a bit concerned that the results will be dated by then16:05
skaetcan we resynch when you're able to do the testing16:06
mlegriscorrect, we would not be using the A1 image, we would use a more recent image16:06
skaetand decide if it makes more sense to do the daily.16:06
skaetack.16:06
mlegrisright, thats our thinking as well16:06
skaetok,  one other area I'm concerned about is making sure the blockers16:06
skaetfrom oneiric are identified as affecting p or not before then.16:06
skaetcan that be done,  even if we don't have full cert run?16:07
mlegrisIt can be done, but not for all the systems16:07
mlegrisso it would be partial to which labs have the manpower to test and update the bugs16:07
skaethmm.... lets discuss the details more offline then.   thanks.16:08
mlegrissure thing16:08
mlegrisThats my main report for this meeting :)16:08
mlegris..16:08
skaetthanks mlegris.   I've pasted your mail link into the agenda too.16:09
skaet[TOPIC] QA team update -  jibel16:09
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jibelhi16:10
skaet:)16:10
jibelAdditionally to what is written on our team report, we spent the week tracking red balls on16:10
jibelhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20Daily%20ISOs/16:10
jibelNow all the tests are almost green excepted upgrades16:10
jibelserver minimal is partially failing because the resulting installation is oversized. jamespage  is putting it on diet.16:10
jibelnow working on lts upgrades16:10
jibelboot speed test results are published at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/boot-speed/16:11
jibelplease have a look16:11
jibel..16:11
jibelany comment/question ?16:11
skaetThanks jibel!16:11
skaetre: from the report on smoke tests being generated by community - is there a link for the procedure to add them to Jenkins?16:11
jibelnot yet, it's a WIP16:11
pittiwe fixed some major upgrade bugs today16:12
pittilooking forward to tomorrow's/Monday's autotests16:12
skaet:)16:12
skaet[TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur16:13
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mdeslaurhi!16:13
skaet:)16:13
mdeslaur[LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000572.html16:13
mdeslaurwe've been pretty much occupied with all our reactive work16:13
mdeslaurnot much progress on the work items front16:13
mdeslaurthat's about it!16:14
mdeslaur.16:14
skaetThanks mdeslaur!    anyone have questions?16:14
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skaet[TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara16:14
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ogasawara[LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000574.html16:14
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ogasawaraI forgot to mention in my email that during our config review session at16:15
ogasawaraUDS, we identified some configuration discrepancies between flavors.16:15
ogasawaraWe'll be evaluating these discrepancies more closely in the coming weeks16:15
ogasawarawhich will likely result in a few config tweaks most likely for arm or16:15
ogasawarapowerpc.16:15
ogasawara..16:15
skaetThanks ogasawara!16:15
ogra_omap4 was already generalized i think16:16
skaetany questions?16:16
ogra_..16:16
ogra_(final bits went in this week)16:16
ogra_..16:16
skaet[TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - stgraber16:16
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stgraberhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000573.html16:17
stgraberso as skaet mentioned, the state of the QA tracker changed a bit since I sent that e-mail with http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com being online now16:17
skaet*\o/*16:18
stgraberwe're still tracking some bugs, one being critical (API not working) and another one rather annoying (reports failing due to old Postgres)16:18
stgraberI have RTs for both but no ETA16:18
stgraberhoping for the former to be fixed ASAP as currently all the builds and results need to be added by hand...16:19
stgraber..16:19
skaetThanks stgraber!16:19
mdeslaurstgraber: any chance of successfully bribing foundations to revert to using the "admin" group? :)16:19
ogra_any security issues with that ?16:20
ogra_..16:20
stgrabermdeslaur: I don't know much of the history about that particular one (except seeing it happening), I think it may need some desktop+foundations bribing :)16:20
pittiplease send mail before doing that, though16:20
pittithe admin->user change came unexpectedly enough, we'll need to change umpteen packages again to change it back16:20
mdeslaurogra_: consistency and security auditing...not a big issue, but it's an unexpected change for users16:21
pittino objections from here, it should just be coordinated16:21
ogra_ah, k16:21
ogra_..16:21
* skaet looks around for other questions....16:22
skaet[TOPIC] Server team Q&A - Daviey16:22
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skaetis Daviey or anyone else from server team around?16:23
skaet[TOPIC] ARM team Q&A-  ogra_16:23
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ogra_ha ! me !!16:23
skaet:)16:23
ogra_[link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000587.html16:23
ogra_armhf FTW !16:24
ogra_:)16:24
ogra_..16:24
slangasek\o/16:24
slangasekarwoof16:24
skaetThanks ogra_ !  re: armhf - congrat!!!16:24
ogra_(and a HUGE praise to infinity and doko for all that work)16:24
dokoas a side note ... http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/primary-precise-armhf.html16:25
ogra_dokos manager shoudl think about bonuses already ;)16:25
ogra_..16:25
ogra_doko, its in the mail ;)16:25
ogra_..16:25
skaetvery nice news indeed.  :)  and agree, big thanks to infinity and doko.  :)16:25
doko... starts looking useful for other architectures too, showing general build failures, not just armhf16:25
skaet[TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo16:26
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* skaet not seeing fabo, but notes he has dependency on DX..16:28
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000570.html16:28
skaetdbarth, ^^ can you respond to thread after meeting?16:28
dbarthskaet: yes16:29
skaetthanks!16:29
skaet[TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A -  joshuahoover16:29
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skaethmm,  not seeing him in channel,  moving on.16:30
skaet[TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A  - pitti16:30
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* kenvandine steps in :)16:30
pittinothing from me aside from the already sent report16:30
pittiany questions?16:30
skaetsorry kenvandine pitti told me.16:30
kenvandinepitti!16:30
pitti(need to run in some 10 mins)16:30
skaethttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000581.html16:31
skaetanyone have question?16:31
skaetThanks kenvandine and pitti.  :)16:32
skaet[TOPIC] Desktop Experience Team Q&A - dbarth16:32
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dbarthhi16:32
skaet:)16:32
dbarththe report is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus16:33
dbarththe main thing to underline16:34
dbarthis the completion of the build and test automation infrastructure16:34
pittihuge congrats on this!16:34
dbarthand the fact that at least unity shell is now connected with the autopilot test suite16:34
pittiit certainly caused a lot of pain, but it's so great to see this working now16:35
dbarthcompiz is still a bit behind, and the unity-qt side is close though16:35
dbarth..16:35
skaetThanks dbarth!   congrats on getting test suite up!  :)   new blueprint also noted.16:35
skaetdbarth, what day that first week in january are you expecting unity updates to land?16:36
* skaet wondering if we're back on a regular day DX changes landing or not...16:36
dbarth(otp at the same time sorry)16:37
skaetdbarth,  ok, will follow up with you offline.16:37
dbarththursday sorry16:37
dbarthnormal upload window16:38
skaetack.  will follow up offline.16:38
skaetthanks16:38
skaet[TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell16:38
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Riddellhi16:38
skaet:)16:38
Riddellhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000578.html16:38
RiddellI'm a bit concust and not thinking all straight, so let me know if I make any mistakes16:39
Riddelland I'll be back into KDE packaging slowly next week16:39
Riddell..16:39
ogra_its good to have you back !16:39
ogra_..16:39
skaetThanks Riddell!   glad you're back as well!16:39
skaetRiddell,  Is there a backup contact I should be working with for Kubuntu on the milestone testing going forward?16:40
Riddellskaet: not currently I'm afraid16:40
skaetack.  let me know if you come up with one.16:41
* skaet looks around for any question?16:41
skaet[TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber16:41
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stgraberhey again16:42
skaet:)16:42
stgraberhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000575.html16:42
stgraberso biggest thing this week is the automated upgrade testing, first complete "clean" run of edubuntu, kubuntu, mythbuntu and xubuntu is still running16:43
stgraberresults will appear on the tracker once the API works again16:43
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stgraberoh, and I'm sure highvoltage would really like some news from Kubuntu (if he didn't get any yet) as the TB meeting is on Monday and will likely be the last for this year. So would be good to have LTS sorted there.16:44
stgraberI think that's it16:44
stgraber..16:44
skaetThanks stgraber!16:44
Riddellyes I plan to do the TB things on monday16:44
stgraberRiddell: thanks!16:45
skaetGood to hear the auto-upgrade testing is now clean for edubuntu!  :)16:45
stgraberoh, and btw, so far Edubuntu and Kubuntu upgrade fine from Oneiric to Precise on both i386 and amd6416:45
skaet:)16:45
skaet[TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick16:46
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madnickhi16:46
madnickhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000569.html16:46
madnickAs you see, not much is new :)16:47
madnick..16:47
skaetThanks madnick.  no issues are nice :)16:47
skaet[TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - ScottL16:48
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* skaet not seeing him in channel though...16:48
skaet[TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir16:48
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gilirhi :)16:48
skaet:)16:48
gilirhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2011-December/000577.html16:48
giliradditional item, desktop daily ISOs fail to be published16:49
gilirlog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/765014/16:49
gilir..16:50
skaetThanks gilir,   will look into the publishing failure after the meeting.16:50
gilirthanks skaet :)16:50
skaet[TOPIC] MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney16:50
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tumbleweedhi, nothing to report from us16:51
skaetthanks tumbleweed!  anyone have questions on MOTU?16:52
skaet[TOPIC] Any other business, comments questions: ?16:52
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skaetheh,  looks like thats it,  and we're ending in under an hour.  :)16:53
skaetThank you to everyone who put their status's in email.  It helped alot!16:53
skaet#endmeeting16:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Fri Dec  9 16:53:33 2011 UTC.16:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-09-16.01.moin.txt16:53
ogra_thanks skaet !16:53
skaetThanks  mlegris, jibel, mdeslaur, ogasawara, stgraber, ogra_, pitti, kenvandine, dbarth, Riddell, madnick, gilir, tumbleweed.16:53
skaet:)16:53
stgraberthanks!16:53
mdeslaurthanks!16:53
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