[08:00] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:00] <AlanBell> danfish: hi, did it end up just you and Liam?
[08:33] <DJones> Morning
[08:33] <danfish> AlanBell: yup
[08:35] <AlanBell> oh well
[08:36] <danfish> no probs - dreadful weather
[08:36] <danfish> pubs pretty good
[09:13] <AlanBell> yay, just sold my daughters dolls house on ebay
[09:14] <oimon> she'll resent you for it when she's grown up ;)
[09:14] <AlanBell> should pay for some beers this evening </parenting fail>
[09:19] <gord> but it does some other kid is going to have a great christmas
[09:19] <gord> or... a nostalgic 20-something, one o the two
[09:20] <oimon> if you go to the museum of childhood in bethnal green, it's full of adults saying "hey i used to have that but my parents threw it away/sold it..the swines"
[09:20] <oimon> except me, who's saying meh that star wars collection is lame
[09:21]  * oimon discovers he has mod points on slashdot
[09:25] <czajkowski> http://voices.canonical.com/isd/?p=180  Good to see happening
[09:28] <gord> paypal are horrible, really just terrible. but convenient.
[09:29] <Laney> i am being punished for waking up late by my housemate spening /half an hour/ in the shower
[09:29] <oimon> Laney: what do people do in there? i don't understand how a shower can take longer than 5 min
[09:30] <Myrtti> I understand 10 minutes, but I've got long hair and I'm a woman :-P
[09:30] <danfish> Laney: take revenge by sitting on the bog for 30 mins
[09:31] <AlanBell> http://www.thecrowntavernec1.co.uk/ is where some people will be tonight after the christmas meal at Dans Le Noir
[09:31] <oimon> i understand that because you can read on the bog
[09:31] <oimon> although kindles and tablets are a bit unhygeinic
[09:33] <AlanBell> dans le noir is here http://g.co/maps/np6u9 the pub is here http://g.co/maps/qqrx7
[09:33] <gordonjcp> I just give my phone a skoosh of antistatic antibacterial foam cleaner after perusing slashdot on the bog
[09:34] <AlanBell> gordonjcp: that seems a strangely appropriate place to read slashdot
[09:35] <gordonjcp> AlanBell: well, quite
[09:54] <PendragonUK> Morning all...
[09:55] <AlanBell> morning
[10:22] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:43] <Myrtti> interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16050269
[10:44] <Myrtti> "How Scandinavian is Scotland?"
[10:44] <ubuntubhoy> not very
[10:44] <ubuntubhoy> apart from its bloody freezing
[10:45] <gordonjcp> it's not *that* cold
[10:46] <ubuntubhoy> its not that warm either right now
[10:47] <gordonjcp> 2C
[10:47] <Myrtti> balmy
[10:47] <ubuntubhoy> and snowing in Glasgow
[10:48] <ubuntubhoy> Myrtti, you from Norway ?
[10:48] <Myrtti> Finland
[10:48] <ubuntubhoy> what you at today, -12ish ?
[10:49] <gordonjcp> I keep forgetting how far north even the southern tip of Finland is
[10:49] <Myrtti> 0C from the looks of what Unity shows me
[10:49] <Myrtti> last weeks Scotland storm is just hitting us
[10:49] <Myrtti> FMI predicts +10cm snow today
[10:50] <gordonjcp> it's way further north than Sweden
[10:50]  * gordonjcp is from the same latitude as Gothenburg
[10:50] <davmor2> morning all
[10:52]  * czajkowski kicks davmor2 where have you been mister!
[10:52] <Myrtti> Tampere is good way north of Shetland islands it seems
[10:53] <davmor2> czajkowski: Painting the flat as I had the week off :P
[10:53] <Myrtti> about the same as faroes
[10:53] <PendragonUK> Hi peeps, anyone help me out??
[10:54] <davmor2> PendragonUK: I don't know did you ask something?
[10:54] <czajkowski> davmor2: bigcalm had the week off but he was on here 24/7
[10:55] <davmor2> czajkowski: let me say this again I was on holiday painting I wasn't in the office :P  besides he has bip or something set up and I have never bothered :D
[10:55] <PendragonUK> I ran update this morning and there are a couple of updates with issues Quote "This update does not come from a source that supports changelogs."
[10:56] <PendragonUK> Quote "The action would require the installation of packages from unauthenticated sources."
[10:57] <PendragonUK> Quote "libgdata is a GLib-based library for accessing online service APIs using the GData protocol — most notably, Google's services. It provides APIs to access the common Google services, and has full asynchronous support. This package contains the common data files for libgdata."
[10:58] <PendragonUK> Should I install or not?
[10:58] <davmor2> PendragonUK: it sounds like you already have installed it if this is an update
[10:59] <davmor2> PendragonUK: I'm assuming it is google gears or chrome you installed right?
[10:59] <PendragonUK> OK Just not used to warnings like this, well not from Ubuntu
[11:00] <PendragonUK> Yea Chrome is installed
[11:01] <davmor2> PendragonUK: basically what happens is google setup effectively a fake repo so you get updates, but it isn't signed by USC so it is saying if you trust the source install away but I don't know it
[11:02] <PendragonUK> Well I have tried but it's working, every time I try it blocks the install
[11:03] <davmor2> PendragonUK: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[11:03] <PendragonUK> Thanks I'll give it a go...
[11:04] <X3N> Intel OTC are hireing an intern if anyone knows of anyone http://t.co/CxJUVmFh
[11:04] <X3N> *hiring
[11:05] <PendragonUK> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!   libgdata-common libgdata13 Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
[11:05] <PendragonUK> That Worked Thanks
[11:21] <PendragonUK> cya peeps, thanks for your help...
[11:23] <danfish> my local council are holding a "winter festival" tomorrow. PC gone mad
[11:23] <AlanBell> festivus \o/
[11:23] <czajkowski> davmor2: :(
[11:23] <czajkowski> danfish: :(
[11:24]  * AlanBell is on a train
[11:24] <oimon> danfish: is it winter yet?
[11:24] <davmor2> czajkowski: Oi madame don't flash my name up cause it begins with da :P
[11:24] <sagaci> oimon: winter starts in December, til end of Feb..?
[11:24] <czajkowski> :p
[11:25] <AlanBell> off to the hall of the worshipful company of information technologists
[11:25] <gord> no
[11:25] <gord> winter starts when my toes are cold
[11:25] <gord> its like the groundhog thing
[11:25] <gord> but with my toes
[11:25] <gord> and less Bill Murray
[11:26] <AlanBell> a fair swap
[11:28] <oimon> i guess a winter festival is OK if held at start of dec
[11:28] <danfish> gord: do the locals have a 'gord's toes day'
[11:28] <davmor2> danfish: That's okay demand they celebrate the winter solstice due to the fact that the nations original religion was pagan and Druidism
[11:29] <gord> oh i wish it could be gords toes day every dayyyy
[11:29] <oimon> some people might be offended by the word christmas as it has connotations of gluttony and excessive consumerism & spending :)
[11:30] <danfish> davmor2: I think they are planning to sacrifice a mince pie on the solstice
[11:30] <davmor2> danfish: haha
[11:30] <directhex> merry festivus!
[11:31] <davmor2> gord: We wish you some merry gords toes, we wish you some merry gords toes..........
[11:31] <danfish> directhex: I don't like your use of the word Merry there - it may upset certain members of the hobbit community
[11:31] <directhex> pippin festivus
[11:33] <davmor2> directhex: Are you insinuating that we in England have to be happy!  If so then that would be a fraudulent claim at best :P
[11:33] <directhex> davmor2,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXSOD1N5lR4
[11:47] <oimon> has anyone tried the "design your own trainers" nike site?
[11:48] <oimon> http://ubuntuone.com/0OAmFMg1XFt5FpeiewoI4t
[11:48] <oimon> beautiful
[11:49] <DJones> Where's my sunglasses
[11:49] <oimon> tried to make the most hideous ones i could
[11:49] <Myrtti> nice
[11:50] <Myrtti> that's not horrible... :-<
[11:50] <oimon> someone probably made a pair in the 80s like this
[11:50] <davmor2> directhex: you need help
[11:50] <DJones> Or Tartan ones for the Bay City Rollers :)
[11:52] <davmor2> directhex: you deserve this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAIOzM7SsMo
[11:54] <directhex> someone clearly didn't watch ren & stimpy as a youth
[11:55] <oimon> anyone tried finding instagram style scripts for gimp?
[11:57] <davmor2> directhex: ren and stimpy was post my youth ;)  but I do believe I saw it :) once or twice :D
[11:59] <davmor2> directhex: of course what you really need to put a smile on your face is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpn2oyEaX8&feature=related :D
[13:24] <czajkowski> huzza have progress, date for back operation january 6th
[13:24] <czajkowski> had a date for next week but flying the following week so they dont think thats a wise move
[13:29] <dogmatic69> :O
[13:29] <dogmatic69> czajkowski: whats up with your back :S
[13:29] <czajkowski> it's a bit fecked since mark
[13:29] <czajkowski> *march
[13:30] <czajkowski> I've damaged disc at L4/L5 with a bulging disc
[13:31] <dogmatic69> ow, sounds painful
[13:31] <dogmatic69> hope it goes well for you
[13:31] <czajkowski> thanks
[13:32] <dogmatic69> too much crouching by a terminal?
[13:33] <czajkowski> nope just I've had it for years and the last few months it flammed up worse than before
[13:33] <czajkowski> both my parents have bad backs also
[13:33] <czajkowski> but they suspect I first injured it when I was about 18 moving house
[13:34] <dogmatic69> ah, my father has an extra vertebra. squashes all the padding between them and back pain follows
[13:50] <danfish> czajkowski: microdiscectomy?
[13:51] <czajkowski> danfish: endoscopic lumbar discetomy... I think
[13:51] <danfish> that's the one
[13:52] <czajkowski> danfish: aye just watched the video, may not have been wise to watch it
[13:53] <danfish> czajkowski: don't worry - most surgeons can do that procedure with their eyes shut and in fact most do ;D
[13:54] <czajkowski> danfish: not helping! mister!
[13:54] <czajkowski> am glad I'm gonna be in guys hospital
[13:54] <danfish> capable hands
[13:55] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LjlWa-xlW8
[13:56] <czajkowski> danfish: aye so the only thing I've left to do is find a new gp when I come back after xmas as we're moving so wont be able to go to the current GP
[13:56] <danfish> where are you moving to?
[13:56] <czajkowski> I really find this registering for a gp in one area  rule rather annoying
[13:56] <czajkowski> waterloo
[13:57] <davmor2> czajkowski: when did you get so gobby every other line is you talking  sharrup ;)
[13:58] <czajkowski> shrup ya pup
[13:59] <funkyHat> I haven't bothered finding a GP since moving, but I am moving again after christmas anyway. I should do it then...
[14:42] <christel> AlanBell: ok, will you meet us at waterloo? or should we find our way to somewhere nearer the venue, if so where? :)
[14:42] <christel> farringdon?
[14:49] <davmor2> czajkowski: :P
[14:51]  * davmor2 throws a waterbomb in czajkowski 's general direction
[14:55]  * czajkowski kicks davmor2 oi behave you 
[14:56] <davmor2> czajkowski: What I didn't say it was going to hit you London is a long way from here
[14:56] <DJones> Heh, this is how to park http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bsK5C8m44JY
[14:58] <czajkowski> davmor2: mind if I pm ?
[14:58] <czajkowski> bah
[14:58] <czajkowski> DJones: mind if I pm
[14:58] <DJones> czajkowski: Sure, go for it
[14:59] <davmor2> czajkowski: feel free but you might not like your answers :D
[15:00] <czajkowski> davmor2: shrup ya pup!
[15:00] <davmor2> czajkowski: you woke me up tis you're fault :P
[15:00] <davmor2> bet you guys missed this right :)
[15:01] <czajkowski> no
[15:02] <davmor2> czajkowski: that was directed at everyone else I knew you missed it from my greeting this morning :P
[15:09] <scoundrel50a> I have a bit of a problem, I lost my desktop, on a laptop computer not long ago, and created another user and transfered admin to new user, problem is, when it comes to using opening the Synaptic it calls up the old username and pasword, and I dont know why, can somebody help please.
[15:10] <dogmatic69> scoundrel50a: maybe its using the user id thing, eg: 1000
[15:10] <scoundrel50a> have no idea what that is,,,,,
[15:11] <scoundrel50a> have to log out, Firefox just crashed, brb
[15:12] <scoundrel50a> sorry back again
[15:13] <scoundrel50a> its odd because I log in with the new username and pasword, but Synaptic calls up the old one
[15:13] <scoundrel50a> when I go to open it
[15:15] <czajkowski> scoundrel50a: is this the same issue you were here recently with and daubers was helping you with it ?
[15:22] <scoundrel50a> hi, sorry, was doing something else, yes, they started it, and I found out I didnt have the Users and Groups addon, but we never got further than that
[15:23]  * Laney gets on a train to London :-)
[15:24] <Laney> complimentary wifi++
[15:24] <bigcalm[mob]> Hello from Farnham!
[15:25] <Laney> the ticket machine's time lied to me so i ran
[15:25] <Laney> turned out i had 7 minutes
[15:26] <bigcalm[mob]> I hope I'm in the right place ;)
[15:26] <AlanBell> christel: hiya
[15:27] <AlanBell> christel: I am currently at Faringdon station in the costa just outside
[15:27] <bigcalm[mob]> AlanBell: o/
[15:27] <AlanBell> o/
[15:28] <scoundrel50a> anybody have any ideas?
[15:29] <occupy64k> no
[15:29] <bigcalm[mob]> AlanBell: bit early at the station?
[15:30] <AlanBell> bigcalm[mob]: yeah, but I was here already (or a couple of hundred meters away)
[15:31] <bigcalm[mob]> Fair enough
[15:31] <Laney> which tube station is it for dans le noir?
[15:31] <AlanBell> Faringdon
[15:31] <Laney> ty
[15:31] <popey> ta
[15:31] <popey> i needed that too
[15:32] <AlanBell> if scoundrel50a stays online a bit longer I suspect someone would fix his problem
[15:32] <Laney> i'm wishing that i got first class for the train back now
[15:32] <AlanBell> is he on dialup or something I wonder
[15:32] <Laney> last one ...
[15:32] <bigcalm[mob]> Wishing I had brought my spare phone battery with me. Car chargers are very slow when you are also on irc
[15:32] <AlanBell> popey: are you meeting christel at waterloo?
[15:32] <popey> AlanBell: i had not planned to
[15:36]  * bigcalm[mob] twiddles his thumbs
[15:38]  * Laney is next to ratcliffe-on-soar
[15:38] <Laney> it's a bigun
[15:40] <davmor2> bigcalm[mob]: Moo!
[15:56] <nigelb> davmor2!
[15:57] <davmor2> nigelb: Me owld mukka 'ow am ya
[15:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: Boo!
[15:57] <Pendulum> nigelb: go to bed :P
[15:57] <nigelb> davmor2: Have you been away for a long while?
[15:57] <nigelb> Pendulum: I was peacefully sleeping when someone decided to call my phone. Sigh.
[15:59] <Pendulum> nigelb: so go back to bed
[15:59] <davmor2> nigelb: only 4 days
[15:59] <gord> hey look, snow... wanted to go shopping but whatever
[15:59] <nigelb> davmor2: ah
[15:59] <nigelb> Pendulum: heh, will do. son.
[15:59] <nigelb> *SOOON
[15:59] <nigelb> Clearly, I need sleep.
[15:59] <nigelb> 20
[15:59] <nigelb> bah
[16:00] <davmor2> gord: :'( I want snow where's the snow
[16:00] <czajkowski> NO SNOW!
[16:00] <gord> davmor2, its not really snow...
[16:00] <gord> its a horrid half snow half sleet mixture
[16:01] <davmor2> we want snow ignore czajkowski
[16:02]  * czajkowski glares at davmor2 such a brat
[16:03]  * davmor2 would throw a snowball at czajkowski but there is no snow
[16:03] <oimon> lovely skies over london
[16:05] <AlanBell> very clear
[16:05] <davmor2> AlanBell: ditto here
[16:06] <AlanBell> should have brought a hat or something, might get cold later
[16:07] <davmor2> AlanBell: By cold you mean snow right :D
[16:09] <czajkowski> there is no snow
[16:09] <czajkowski> there was fireworks last night
[16:10] <gord> fireworks are very different than snow, but i can see how you could of been confused
[16:10]  * davmor2 starts praying for snow now he knows czajkowski hates it :P  czajkowski wear some decent shoes when you go out tonight incase you get caught in the snow ;)
[16:12] <czajkowski> davmor2: I hope your computer crashes!
[16:13] <davmor2> czajkowski: as long as you can explain to my boss why I'm not working I don't care :P
[16:13] <davmor2> czajkowski: anyway excuse me for telling you to wear sensible footwear when the forecast is for snow
[16:24] <AlanBell> doctormo is on his way here
[16:28]  * popey gets changed
[16:29]  * hamitron wonders what sort of popey we get as replacement
[16:30] <oimon> one with a cape
[16:30] <hamitron> magic one?
[16:31] <davmor2> no it just means that popey is adding an e to his nick and eating a can of spinach
[16:32] <hamitron> :)
[16:34] <Laney> oh dear
[16:34] <Laney> whatever details did I register my oyster with?
[16:35] <oimon> fred bloggs?
[16:35] <davmor2> Laney: quite obviously not those ones
[16:35] <Laney> email / postcode
[16:35] <Laney> Due to a site update, we need to reset your password.
[16:35] <Laney> Please call the Oyster helpline on 0845 330 9876.
[16:35] <Laney> quality
[16:35] <oimon> they're gonna get you
[16:54] <danfish> I thought you were all dining in the dark tonight? Perfect excuse not to get changed.
[16:57] <oimon> smell-o-vision
[16:58] <oimon> i wonder how many people have walked out of a first-date when it wasn't going very well, and the other person didn't realise for 10 minutes?
[16:59] <hamitron> oimon, why 10 mins?
[16:59] <oimon> if the date was going badly, and happening in pitch dark...awkward silences might occur
[17:00] <hamitron> could be interesting if going well though ;)
[17:01] <DJones> And then you get outside in a lit area and find that the female, 25, GSOH, is actually an 18 stone rugby prop forward with a high pitched voice :)
[17:01] <oimon> yeah...i'll meet you in there..blind date etc
[17:01] <hamitron> I'd never ask one of them on a date, nvm a date in a dark room ;/
[17:02] <DJones> I've only ever been on one blind date, never again
[17:02] <hamitron> bet it is scary tbh
[17:02] <oimon> must be awkward
[17:03]  * Laney has breached london
[17:03] <oimon> a "date" creates too much expectation
[17:03] <DJones> Definately awkward when you don't them or what they like, so difficult to chat, although you do get the chance for life histories
[17:03] <DJones> Allocate BSP Cleardown
[17:03] <DJones> Grr
[17:04] <oimon> sudo rm /*
[17:04] <oimon> woops
[17:05] <hamitron> no -rf? :/
[17:05] <oimon> alias rm=rm -rf
[17:05] <hamitron> bah, lazy
[17:05] <hamitron> ;)
[17:06] <Laney> won't work, unless you --no-preserve-root
[17:06] <hamitron> never tried tbh
[17:06] <oimon> alias rm= echo"removing $1"
[17:07] <oimon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOjmvWPRvQ
[17:07] <oimon> we need a bot that tells us the title of a youtube link :(
[17:08] <DJones> or a bot that just parses every line, looks for a reference to youtube and tells you its a rick astley video
[17:08] <hamitron> lets just ban youtube?
[17:08] <AlanBell> or shut it down?
[17:09] <hamitron> both sound good
[17:09] <hamitron> :)
[17:10] <oimon> agh train
[17:10]  * oimon runs
[17:10] <Laney> arriving
[17:10] <Laney> where are people?
[17:11] <AlanBell> Laney: where are you?
[17:11] <Laney> st p
[17:11] <AlanBell> ok, Faringdon station
[17:11] <AlanBell> turn right, find costa
[17:11] <Laney> aye aye
[17:11] <davmor2> Noooooo then how would you be able to view things like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[17:11] <AlanBell> Laney: me and doctormo so far
[17:12] <hamitron> davmor2, I can't
[17:12] <hamitron> ;)
[17:12] <hamitron> unless it is special
[17:12] <hamitron> then there would be a reason to download it
[17:12] <davmor2> AlanBell: Use the link above it will fill the floor with party revellers
[17:13] <davmor2> hamitron: It's fantastic
[17:13] <hamitron> worth the download?
[17:13] <hamitron> :/
[17:13] <davmor2> hamitron: Oh yes if only to annoy people local to you :)
[17:14] <hamitron> k, 18 mins download time
[17:14] <hamitron> ;/
[17:14] <davmor2> hamitron: Ouch that's slowband you're on there
[17:15] <hamitron> reason I ban youtube
[17:15] <hamitron> :)
[17:15] <hamitron> nothing worse, than someone downloading a vid on youtube, while I play a game
[17:15] <hamitron> ;)
[17:16] <hamitron> bbl, find something to eat
[17:19] <Laney> ok, at st pancras now
[17:19] <Laney> see you shortly
[17:30] <Univoid> hi all having a problem when i click dashboard and type terminal no terminal icon shows so i cant run it also software centre will nop open it opens then closes any ideas?
[17:30] <Univoid> not**
[17:30] <Univoid> in fact i cannot find any programs that i type such as system monitor
[17:31] <Univoid> its as tho they do not exist
[17:32] <davmor2> Univoid: sounds like your install didn't complete
[17:32] <Univoid> it worked yesterday
[17:33] <Univoid> how can i fix this
[17:33] <davmor2> Univoid: try pressing ctrl+alt+t that should open a terminal
[17:34] <Univoid> got a terminal
[17:34] <Univoid> what do we reckon is messed up?
[17:35] <davmor2> Univoid: Pass but try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and see if it throws up any errors
[17:35] <davmor2> or updates
[17:36] <Univoid> how do i fix my package info that did not throw any errors
[17:37] <Univoid> i have some that say ign
[17:38] <davmor2> Univoid: you'll need someone with more experience than I for that one
[17:41] <Univoid> well i just tried to run synaptic from command line and it said it was not installed
[17:43] <Univoid> is there anyway to install all fresh install packages or is it easier to just format u reckon
[17:43] <AlanBell> anyone wanting to join us in the Crown http://www.thecrowntavernec1.co.uk/ from about 9ish would be most welcome
[18:23] <buzz_> AlanBell, holy crap @ london prices :-)
[18:23] <buzz_> AlanBell, should meet in a samuel smiths pub!
[20:31] <Gizmo_the_Great> hey guys. I got a Drobo FS NAS box. Attached via ethernet (eth0). According to this (http://support.drobo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/165) it should be listed as a dev/sdx but lssci isn't showing it up and its not listed in /dev
[20:31] <Gizmo_the_Great> Any ideas how I go about mounting it? Accessing it?
[20:32] <Gizmo_the_Great> I know the system to be working because I configured at work using Windows and the Windows configuration utility
[20:32] <Gizmo_the_Great> I'm led to believe by Drobo help and tech support that providing it got latest firmware etc Linux should see it
[20:32] <Gizmo_the_Great> I using 2.6.32-31-generic
[20:56]  * AlanBell is in the pub
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> Gizmo_the_Great: is it iscsi?
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> Gizmo_the_Great: you may need to install stuff to see iscsi drives
[20:58]  * brobostigon is jealous of AlanBell :(
[22:02] <brobostigon> QI :)
[22:30] <ubuntuuk-planet> [James Tait] Social networking  youre (probably) doing it wrong - http://voices.canonical.com/james.tait/2011/12/09/social-networking-youre-probably-doing-it-wrong/
[23:15] <AlanBell> choo choo
[23:15]  * AlanBell is on a train with christel and bigcalm
[23:16] <mgdm> evenin'