[00:00] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell datakid about pinning
[00:02] <webnet> kimp. ok... yeah tell you what... this may be a pain in the rear... BUT if the driver goez again try to get all the info about it... that way we could possibly fix it
[00:03] <kimp> ok webnet, thanks for your help
[00:03] <webnet> BernSamson: if you have a flash drive big enough yo could use untebootin
[00:03] <webnet> kimp: no problem :)
[00:03] <BernSamson> closest I have to a flash drive is a cell phone
[00:03] <BernSamson> lol
[00:03] <webnet> BernSamson: *UnetBootin sorry for the typo.
[00:04] <webnet> BernSamson: lol. oh that complicates things :P
[00:07] <enav> some on can help me?
[00:07] <JosephRuby> trying to install ggmud, the 'make' worked without any errors, but when I checkinstall it says make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. and the install fails.  Anyone care to comment?
[00:07] <webnet> LostyJai: sorry no one seems to be able your question
[00:08] <webnet> enav: what is ur question/problem?
[00:08] <pfifo> how can i determine what files a deb package installs?
[00:08] <enav> webnet:   i just tried to change the default msql datadir and the whole thing got screwed, i restored everithing to default but mysql still not working.... some help will be appreciated
[00:08] <gadak> Hello//i by mistake removed myself from sudoers....can any one tell me how can i revert back my adminship
[00:09] <pfifo> i got it nevermind
[00:09] <webnet> gadak: sudo su
[00:09] <webnet> users
[00:09] <killswitchguy> gadak: go to system settings->users
[00:10] <webnet> then user [yourusername]
[00:10] <webnet> see what group you are in.
[00:10] <MonkeyDust> gadak  try sudo visudo
[00:10] <gadak> mokey i get this message kashyap is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[00:10] <MonkeyDust> forget that
[00:11] <webnet> killswitchguy: that cant work because his account doesnt haveprivleges to change his group to sudo... it has to be done in cli
[00:11] <pedja> gadak: what exactly did you do?
[00:11] <killswitchguy> ok
[00:12] <webnet> gadak: um question... why do you want be a sudoer? that is kind of dangerous no?
[00:12] <gadak> MonkeyDust: sudo visudo gave same prob
[00:12] <webnet> you can just run sudo su and do everything
[00:12] <MonkeyDust> gadak  live session and then edit /etc/sudoers is all i can think of
[00:13] <gadak> pedja : i did
[00:13] <gadak> groupadd oe
[00:13] <gadak> usermod -G oe user_name
[00:13] <killswitchguy> gadak: u can also use alt+f2 and then type gksudo nautilus to become super user
[00:14] <moegialsdfj> hello
[00:14] <moegialsdfj> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[00:14] <mystiqueba> hi does anyone here use bitbucket?  I need help getting started with pushing git code for the first time.
[00:14] <pedja> gadak: so you have removed yourself form the admin group.
[00:14] <MonkeyDust> moegialsdfj  wrong channel
[00:15] <pedja> booting from live cd and changing /etc/group comes to mind
[00:15] <webnet> killswitchguy: i second that. hell you can even make a sudo nautilus shortcut on your desktop
[00:15] <webnet> or a root terminal.
[00:15] <gadak> killswitchguy :::that din work
[00:16] <synthetiq> I have a centos 4 isintall on my harddisck, but ubuntu 11 is not detecting it, what should I do? I want ubutnu 11 to be the primary with that non detected centos4 to be on there still
[00:16] <gadak> Pedja is that the reason i was taken away from sudo???
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> gadak  of course not, your sudo and gksudo are disabled
[00:16] <webnet> gadak: ok . open terminal and type sudo su
[00:16] <pedja> members of admin group are allowed to use sudo
[00:16] <MonkeyDust> gadak  i just said that, live session and change it from there
[00:17] <drake1> guess what. my wireless problems was due to limited signal strength. now it works perfect.
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[00:17] <moegialsdfj> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[00:17] <pedja> you are now member of ONLY that group that you created not admin group anymore
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> moegialsdfj
[00:17] <MonkeyDust> moegialsdfj  wrong channel
[00:17] <bj_penn> im trying to set up networking in ubuntu. I set up the /etc/network/interfaces to take an IP of the subnet 192.168.44.198 on mask 255.255.255.0, but i cant ping any other 192.168.44.*, or ping this server from any servers in the same network
[00:17] <gadak> so what should i do
[00:17] <webnet> gadakoooo. yeah livedisc is only fix...
[00:18] <gadak> liveCD?
[00:18] <pedja> boot from live CD
[00:18] <webnet> unlesss... Gadak...
[00:18] <pedja> mount your linux partition
[00:18] <pedja> edit /etc/group
[00:18] <pedja> put yourself in admin group again
[00:19] <MonkeyDust> gadak  it's /etc/sudoers
[00:19] <gadak> my ubuntu is on Virtual Machine
[00:19] <pedja> yes Live CD like desktop install
[00:19] <webnet> nvm my idea wouldnt work. lol. duh
[00:19] <webnet> ok gadak you still have the iso right?
[00:19] <gadak> ya
[00:19] <maum> Is there a good way to check ubuntu system infomation on Desktop background?
[00:19] <pedja> gadak: wel boot your VM of a live cd
[00:19] <webnet> ok is the VM on virtual box or vmware
[00:20] <gadak> vm box
[00:20] <killswitchguy> gadak: i have also locked myself out of my admin rights..let me figure this out
[00:20] <gadak> LOL killswwitch
[00:20] <webnet> ok so when you turn on the boot machine, select to use the iso as a virtual drive and boot from it
[00:21] <webnet> gadak ^^
[00:21] <gadak> ok
[00:21] <webnet> then select to try it first
[00:21] <gadak> ok
[00:21] <webnet> and mount the hdd inside the live disc
[00:21] <gadak> ok
[00:22] <webnet> woah Guest86826 why are you running irc in root?!
[00:23] <killswitchguy> gadak: im back as su. try this tut
[00:23] <killswitchguy> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-root-password-default-password/
[00:23] <webnet> whoami why do you run irc as root?!
[00:23] <synthetiq> I have a centos 4 isintall on my harddisck, but ubuntu 11 is not detecting it, what should I do? I want ubutnu 11 to be the primary with that non detected centos4 to be on there still - will proceeding with the custom install use the unused disk space for the new partition?
[00:23] <webnet> synthetiq: it should... if you tell it to.
[00:24] <synthetiq> its not giving me the option when sleecting the drive
[00:25] <wayne87ae> ##hardware
[00:25] <webnet> synthetiq: does it allow you to manually select partitions?
[00:26] <webnet> synthetiq: it should give you a choice to either use whole disc or install alongside other os
[00:26] <dutchlee> webnet: you seem to know what you're talking about... any leads on some must read irc info?
[00:27] <dutchlee> webnet: pretty new to irc... for example how did you know someone was running xchat in sudo mode?
[00:27] <synthetiq> webnet its NOT detecting the other os
[00:28] <dutchlee> webnet: also, why would that matter?
[00:28] <synthetiq> there is /dev/sda1 which has grub, and /dev/sda2 which has the data
[00:28] <synthetiq> also running the cd live i can mount /dev/sda1 but not /dev/sda2
[00:29] <michaeljwjr> Ok so I am trying to get my androidvnc to connect to my desktop, but I keep getting conncetion refused. The guide I'm using is for ubuntu 8.10, is there a more uptodate guide ?
[00:29] <gadak> webnet im in /etc/
[00:30] <gadak> where should the change be made
[00:30] <webnet> gadak, it shoul have a folder called groups. yes?
[00:30] <gadak> yes
[00:31] <gadak> its not folder its a file
[00:31] <webnet> go in there gadak tell me the list of files.
[00:31] <webnet> ok thats sounds more like it. lol
[00:31] <bj_penn> im trying to set up networking in ubuntu. I set up the /etc/network/interfaces to take an IP of the subnet 192.168.44.198 on mask 255.255.255.0, but i cant ping any other 192.168.44.*, or ping this server from any servers in the same network
[00:32] <webnet> are you in a terminal or nautilus gadak
[00:32] <gadak> theres lots of stuff writen ther
[00:32] <gadak> eg. root:x:0:
[00:32] <gadak> and so on
[00:32] <gadak> sudo:x:27:
[00:33] <webnet> dutchlee when a user signs on to irc it gives a notification and it says something like user@127.0.0.1xxxxxxxx
[00:33] <webnet> dutchlee: i can see he ran as root because the word user was root
[00:33] <gadak> kashyap:x:1000:
[00:34] <dutchlee> webnet: thanks... guess ill be reading tonight
[00:34] <webnet> dutchlee: if you want a good how to about irc check this out
[00:34] <webnet> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[00:35] <gadak> Webnet : should i place user name in front of sudo:x:27:
[00:38] <webnet> gadak, i believe that you place your username after if im not mistaken
[00:39] <webnet> Anyone want to second me on that?
[00:39] <webnet> gadak: for example sudo:x:27:youruser
[00:40] <gadak> webnet: its a read only file
[00:41] <gadak> webnet I ve made the change lets c if it works
[00:42] <webnet> oh are you in vim-nox or nano? gadak?
[00:42] <Commodore1702> Hey, I'm having trouble with my sound, Ubuntu can't identify my sound card properly.
[00:42] <gadak> vm box!
[00:42] <wwb> http://linux520.com/
[00:42] <gadak> i went sudo and changed it
[00:42] <webnet> i mean to edit the file?
[00:44] <gadak> webnet : THANKS ALOT n others TOO
[00:44] <gadak> im SUper MAN Again
[00:44] <gadak> hehe
[00:44] <webnet> so it worked :)
[00:45] <_cb> Where can I find what comes with Ubuntu 11.0 (Ubuntu.com used to list it but current page is mostly a sales pitch for their services)
[00:45] <_cb> Ubuntu 11.0 server that is
[00:45] <blabface> hi
[00:45] <blabface> why does rkhunter require exim?
[00:45] <gadak> ya it did
[00:45] <blabface> I'm paranoid
[00:45] <webnet> _cb you mean packages and stuff?
[00:45] <gadak> you guys are genious
[00:45] <webnet> gadak. good im glad :)
[00:46] <blabface> me's genious too
[00:46] <_cb> webnet what applications come with it. Used to be Apache, MySql, etc,etc.
[00:46] <gadak> webnet: are you an engineer>? what work you do
[00:47] <neersighted> wha!
[00:47] <neersighted> oh lol derp "engi(neer)"
[00:47]  * neersighted slaps irssi
[00:47] <webnet> Commodore1702 proprietary driver perhaps? is it a brand new install?
[00:48] <Commodore1702> webnet: Its a fresh install on an old HP OmniBook 4150
[00:48] <_cb> Actually what I am really interested in is if finally there is something like AD in ubuntu (I know that kerberos can be integrated with ldap but, at least for me, it is hard to do)
[00:48] <Commodore1702> webnet: I'm fairly certain its a NeoMagic, but it's also sound blaster compatible
[00:48] <blabface> who's got rkhunter installed? Quick poll...
[00:48] <webnet> lol. gadak. nope i just love linux like no other :)
[00:48] <KingPin> blabface,  I do
[00:49] <blabface> KingPin: is your box a spam bot? Why does that thing install exim?
[00:49] <gadak> its good to know you
[00:49] <kimp> webnet, just reinstalled Ubuntu exactly as before and now drop immediately to GRUB rescue.  That's it for me, I'm afraid.  I might procure another laptop down the track, but this one will needs to remain Win 7
[00:49] <KingPin> ummm what...?
[00:49] <gadak> this community is colorful bcz of you guys
[00:49] <KingPin> it didnt install exim
[00:49] <gadak> really appreciate
[00:49] <blabface> kimp: which verfsion?
[00:49] <webnet> Commodore1702 uh oh, sound blaster is sort of a pain with linux...
[00:50] <blabface> kimp: hrm...
[00:50] <webnet> gadak no problem :)
[00:50] <kimp> blabface, 10.11
[00:50] <kimp> sorry, 11.10
[00:50] <blabface> The following extra packages will be installed: exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light
[00:50] <blabface> kimp: try a more stable version
[00:50] <Commodore1702> webnet: but its not a SB, just compatible, I am fairly certain its a NeoMagic.
[00:50] <webnet> ok that gives me a bit of hope :)
[00:50] <blabface> KingPin: ^^
[00:51] <kimp> thanks blabface, I might give that a shot
[00:51] <blabface> kimp: taker' easy
[00:51] <KingPin> blabface,  spinning up a clean ubuntu vm
[00:51] <webnet> kimp: ummmmm... try formatting the disc?
[00:51] <KingPin> will test in just a few
[00:51] <webnet> its possible that something got screwed up there? :/
[00:52] <kimp> thanks webnet, I'll give it some thought
[00:52] <blabface> KingPin: ty
[00:52] <Moepigsjfhru> Hello
[00:52] <KingPin> np
[00:52] <Moepigsjfhru> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[00:52] <webnet> kimp. ok. :)
[00:54] <StepNjump> Hi, is there a way to decrypt .encryptfs from the terminal using just my password that I used to use to log on to ubuntu (not the passphrase)
[00:54] <KingPin> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[00:54] <KingPin>   libreadline5{a} libruby1.8{a} postfix{a} rkhunter ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} unhide.rb{a}
[00:54] <KingPin> blabface,  ^^^
[00:55] <webnet> StepNjump. Not entirely sure. that is sort of the point of encryptfs :D
[00:55] <Spankbot> most lnx releases are every 6 months.  Any reason why they don't wait at least 2 years to get something more solid and tested?  Some of the releases reminds me of Windows 98 mistakes...  or just tell me, is the volume of releases over a Linux Distro war?
[00:56] <KingPin> 2 years is too long for the average user.
[00:56] <StepNjump> yes I figured webnet.. thanks
[00:56] <webnet> Spankbot: I never use the latest release. i always stay 2 versions behind
[00:56] <blabface> KingPin: do you have exim already?
[00:56] <webnet> StepNjump :P sorry i had to do it :P
[00:57] <djdduty> what download do I use for ubuntu server from a usb drive?
[00:57] <webnet> lol
[00:57] <blabface> KingPin: I see it installs postfix
[00:57] <blabface> so it wants to mail
[00:57] <webnet> djdduty you mean to boot it from usb?
[00:57] <StepNjump> no but I thought maybe I could decrypt using my logon and password ...
[00:57] <KingPin> blabface,  well it does send mail if you ask it to
[00:57] <djdduty> webnet: yes
[00:57] <Spankbot> webnet kingpin  ah, pressure over quality.
[00:57] <KingPin> I get daily emails letting me know of anything suspicious it finds
[00:57] <djdduty> a flash drive
[00:57] <blabface> KingPin: ic, but does it send out 100's of other spam emals?
[00:58] <KingPin> negative
[00:58] <blabface> ty
[00:58] <webnet> djdduty: you can download the standard iso and use software called unetb ootin
[00:58] <KingPin> rkhunter is a very old and known name
[00:58] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: some users want new features, also they do fix bugs just that new ones appear (every OS has these) and they want more users
[00:58] <KingPin> I have never hard of it spamming anything or anyone
[00:58] <djdduty> ok, thanks webnet
[00:59] <djdduty> I did it before without any special program
[00:59] <webnet> djdduty: yep. let me link you a youtube vid with basic instructions for it
[00:59] <KingPin> 6 month release is a very good way to keep interest in an opensource project.
[00:59] <KingPin> especially where users aarent tied to the project via paid licensing
[01:00] <webnet> djdduty: yeah they used to make an image for usb, but now they have made it so that with slight mods you can use a usb with the standard iso, so they dont make a usb specific version anymore
[01:00] <webnet> r u currently on Win or Lin?
[01:01] <djdduty> webnet: I would like to keep my flash drive usable afterwards though
[01:01] <djdduty> windows 7
[01:01] <Spankbot> aeon-ltd >> Here is my concern, I'm a MS developer but have been running LNX Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint.. currently Mint as my host and running VMs of my Windows environment.  I cant get into great detail about my work, but I needed the ability to snapshot and revert my Win environments.  But then comes the names distros with Unity and Gnome3 all having "Amateur Hour" issues with UI and security.
[01:01] <webnet> yeah, you can simply delete all the files off of the drive after you install djdduty
[01:02] <djdduty> ok
[01:02] <djdduty> well I will do that then
[01:02] <djdduty> is 11.10 for tablets? someone just told me that
[01:02] <webnet> ok let me send you a link really quick
[01:02] <OldOneEye> anyone know how to uninstall xwin
[01:03] <webnet> djdduty: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/563/unetbootin-windows-563.exe/download
[01:03] <webnet> djdduty: that is win installer for unetbootin
[01:03] <webnet> and you have to back your flashdrive up before you do it btw
[01:04] <webnet> it may erase wht you have on there already
[01:05] <webnet> djdduty: no its not ONLY for tablets. People are saying that because unity was used in 10.04 and 10.10 netbook/tablet edition, but now unity aka resource sucking bloatware is the main GUI for ubuntu now
[01:05] <OldOneEye> anyone know how to uninstall xwin
[01:06] <webnet> OldOneEye have you tried: sudo apt-get uninstall xwin
[01:06] <OldOneEye> i want just consol
[01:06] <webnet> you want to remove your x server completely?
[01:06] <webnet> or do you want the option for a giu still?
[01:07] <OldOneEye> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[01:07] <OldOneEye> b0b@server:~$
[01:07] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: if you really want ubuntu to be like that i wouldn't use desktop, if you've got the time start from server and control everything yourself or look for another distro
[01:07] <OldOneEye> i want to uninstall the gui
[01:07] <webnet> Oh ok.
[01:07] <djdduty> webnet: what about pendrive linux"?
[01:07] <OldOneEye> it loads on startup and wen i type startx
[01:08] <webnet> djdduty: you could use that as well. either will work. if you like pen drive linux better use it. That is the joy of FOSS
[01:09] <webnet> :D
[01:10] <Spankbot> aeon-ltd >> Understood.  I don't guide, architect, code, test any linux distro so who am I to say how often they release versions.  I'm becoming a huge proponent of the progression of LNX desktops over the last 10yrs, but I'm afraid it's following the same path of closed source solutions.
[01:10] <webnet> OldOneEye im sorry uninstall is for automake duh. lol
[01:10] <webnet> OldOneEye: try sudo apt-get remove xwin
[01:11] <webnet> OldOneEye: try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop as well
[01:12] <OldOneEye> Reading state information... Done
[01:12] <OldOneEye> E: Unable to locate package xwin
[01:12] <webnet> try:  sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <OldOneEye> Package ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed
[01:12] <OldOneEye> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:12] <OldOneEye> b0b@server:~$
[01:13] <OldOneEye> i just want the console only no gui
[01:13] <blabface> KingPin: installed and ran
[01:14] <KingPin> cool
[01:14] <xkws49er> best book for beginners?
[01:14] <blabface> https://gist.github.com/e5bae5425afdb6470b9d
[01:14] <alien2050> Is there a keypad -> mouse emulator that exists for ubuntu ?
[01:14] <blabface> xkws49er: the good book (amen)
[01:15] <blabface> KingPin: ^^ :D
[01:16] <KingPin> the hiddens are fine
[01:16] <webnet> OldOneEye: if you truly want to remove ALL gui components i can give you the command for that, but tread carefully, it will remove ALL the dependancies for gui software as well you would only be able to run Command line tools. ity COULD in theory make the system unstable as well.
[01:17] <blabface> KingPin: ok
[01:17] <blabface> you got them on your fresh install?
[01:17] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: i would say that only applies to those who were up and coming 5 years ago, small dedicated - those who adhere to philosophies - haven't really changed; shameless plug: i've used arch for the last 2 years roughly nothing has changed other than packages updated and more efficient methods being used
[01:17] <KingPin> the hiddens? yes
[01:18] <aeon-ltd> Spankbot: *small dedicated distros
[01:18] <alien2050> found it
[01:18] <blabface> KingPin: thanks for help, night
[01:18] <jasmin> alien2050, hii
[01:18] <KingPin> nphase, night
[01:19] <alien2050> hey
[01:19] <fpu> hello again :)
[01:19] <jasmin> hii friend
[01:19] <fpu> does anyone here know insides of gthumb? I have no idea where it keeps it's preferences...
[01:19] <fpu> I delete .config/gthumb, my settings still are there
[01:19] <fpu> the same with .gconf/apps/gthumb
[01:19] <jasmin> how do i use iperf tool pls any one help me
[01:20] <alien2050> ne1 knows how can I call the "system settings" gui from the cli in gnome shell ?
[01:22] <webnet> alien2050 u mean the gnome control panel?
[01:22] <magn3ts> jesus christ its impossible to find pkg downloads on launchpad
[01:22] <magn3ts> that place leads me in circles everytime I go ther
[01:23] <ayrton_> hey guys how do i transfer data with two ubntu machines and an ethernet cable
[01:23] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[01:23] <alien2050> kinda... but it's called system settings (right click on right icon with your username on it) in gnome 3
[01:24] <alien2050> could be same bin though not sure
[01:24] <Xase> Intel 945 GM, 11.10/Oneiric Ocelot... Stuff is REALLY choppy... after looking around something about direct rendering being turned off seems to be the culprit... any clues, or fixes I'm not aware of.
[01:25] <webnet> ok. brb
[01:25] <chelz> i'm trying to setup my ubuntu laptop to print to a shared usb printer that's attached to a mac on the local network and there's a user/name and password for the printer. when i go to the New Printer gui dialog and put in the IP next to "host" it doesn't find anything
[01:25] <alien2050> found it
[01:25] <chelz> is there some magic URI i can put in that'll make it/cups know the IP and that it needs a password and stuff?
[01:26] <alien2050> it's "gnome-control-center" if anyone is interested
[01:27] <Ibis> !6pac
[01:28] <alien2050> and the plus key is the right click... I love linux :)
[01:28] <Crash_O-D>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock -> Enabling NumLock during startup and before login ->  edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default. For older versions of Ubuntu edit /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default  though files dont exist
[01:32] <magn3ts> What should the default set of include directories be for ubuntu?
[01:33] <Xase> You mean your path magn3ts ?
[01:33] <Xase> Not sure ifthat's what you mean
[01:35] <dutchlee> webnet: hey thanks was afk for a while there
[01:35] <Xase> magn3ts: what do you mean by Includes?
[01:36] <buckshot> Can I get some help with my wireless settings?
[01:36] <Xase> buckshot: I may be able to help :D what's the problem?
[01:36] <magn3ts> How can I set a recursive lookup in gcc for includes?
[01:37] <buckshot> Xase: No matter what I try I cant seem to get my laptop to pick up my wifi
[01:37] <pnorman_> My ubuntu box is hanging on such a low level, I wonder if it's unrelated to the drivers. (heavy write IO causes hangs when going through my sata card)
[01:37] <Xase> buckshot: is you card detected properly? and does it see any other Wifi signals?
[01:38] <Xase> buckshot: also have you tried the Additional Drivers menu under More Apps assuming you're using Unity?
[01:38] <buckshot> I have. The only thing missing was my graphics card. ATI Radeon..
[01:39] <Crash_O-D> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock -> Enabling NumLock during startup and before login ->  edit /etc/gdm/Init/Default. For older versions of Ubuntu edit /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default  though files dont exist. please help.
[01:39] <buckshot> It says "device not managed" under my wireless tab.
[01:39] <Xase> Hmm
[01:39] <Xase> Can you run 'lspci'
[01:40] <buckshot> will do
[01:40] <Xase> and tell me what it says for your wireless?
[01:40] <buckshot> 09:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[01:42] <Xase> Crash_O-D:  if you're using a recent ubuntu  i.e. 11.04 and beyond, I'd imagine not, since ubuntu now uses LightDM
[01:43] <buckshot> need anything else? or was that the right info
[01:43] <Xase> buckshot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285 <<< Not very helpful and may still be required even though outdated.
[01:43] <Xase> that was right
[01:43] <Xase> You may not have the correct module for it.
[01:44] <Xase> buckshot: replace the maverick or lucid with whatever you have
[01:45] <Xase> I'd say try that instruction and see if that works, because the driver for your wireless card may still need to be backported =/ though I don't see why it didn't work out of the box.
[01:46] <buckshot> alright
[01:46] <buckshot> lemme see what i can do
[01:46] <Crash_O-D> Xase: thankx thats a big help. found greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on rebooting to see if worked thanks
[01:46] <buckshot> so if im on 11.10 right now, what would i do to get that installing?
[01:47] <Xase> oneiric ;) buckshot but you may also want to try this first http://www.lamnk.com/blog/computer/fixing-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot-wireless-problem-with-atheros-ar9285-and-ralink-rt3090/
[01:47] <Xase> Just found that
[01:47] <FloodBot1> Xase: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <Xase> Man I hate that Floodbot, it's a little hyperactive and oversensitive.
[01:48] <Xase> buckshot: also that blog doesn't mention it... but reboot after adding that line to the blacklist
[01:49] <djdduty> hello
[01:49] <bolo56> hail ! people of the channel !!
[01:49] <djdduty> I wanted to dual boot ubuntu server, but my only option seemed to be to completely re-format the harddrive?
[01:49] <djdduty> also, it seems to need internet even though the iso is on the disk?
[01:50] <pnorman_> djdduty: Do you mean the only option within the installer is to format the drive?
[01:50] <djdduty> yeah...
[01:50] <buckshot> Xase: I went ahead and followed the instructions, gonna reboot now.
[01:50] <djdduty> I want to keep my windows 7 os and files on here
[01:51] <webnet> djdduty, it doesnt NEED internet it just wants it so in can install updates if you tell it to
[01:51] <djdduty> webnet: it wouldn't let me proceed
[01:51] <Xase> Why would you want a dualboot machine if you plan to run Ubuntu Server djdduty ?
[01:51] <webnet> really? thats new O.o
[01:51] <Xase> Just curious...
[01:51] <Xase> Not discouraging you.
[01:51] <djdduty> Xase: only installing ubuntu server on this comp for an experiment
[01:52] <Xase> Ah okay.
[01:52] <djdduty> I am actually going to be using it on a computer I am building when the parts get here
[01:52] <Xase> djdduty: are you using an actual CD or flashmedia?
[01:52] <webnet> you know you can use virtual box to experiment inside of windows right?
[01:52] <pnorman_> I believe you can just wipe one partition. However, if you're just doing some limited testing ubuntu server, consider a virtual machine as an easier option
[01:52] <djdduty> hmmm
[01:52] <djdduty> true
[01:52] <Xase> I second and third the VM option djdduty
[01:52] <Xase> Much easier...
[01:53] <djdduty> will do then
[01:53] <djdduty> I orgot about it completely actually
[01:53] <Xase> While it will suffer a small performance hit, you should be able to get whatever you need to try done in there.
[01:53] <djdduty> best free vm for windows?
[01:53] <pnorman_> djdduty: I've used VirtualBox
[01:53] <Xase> Virtual Box for the win ;)
[01:53] <djdduty> also, where is this "400mgb ubuntu server edition" at?
[01:53] <djdduty> It mentioned 400mgb small in the installer
[01:53] <Xase> VM Ware is too complicated/proprietary.
[01:53] <pnorman_> note that some of the mouse capture stuff may be a bit odd with server since it has no GUI
[01:54] <webnet> i second virtual box
[01:54] <marsha> is there file recovery software for ubuntu that lets you search for a specific file to recover?
[01:54] <Xase> pnorman_:  he could get around that with 'sudo apt-get install gpm' I think.
[01:54] <Xase> Terminal mouse ;)
[01:54] <pnorman_> !info gpm
[01:54] <webnet> thas really the best MS virtual machine is ok and free, but i like Virtual box better
[01:54] <djdduty> pnorman_: ubuntu server has no gui?
[01:54] <marsha> The only recovery tool i know is photorec but it does nothave that option
[01:54] <Xase> It's a mouse which works on terminal pnorman_ :D
[01:54] <pnorman_> djdduty: by default it doesn't. you could install one, but servers don't generally have a GUI
[01:55] <djdduty> I would want one...
[01:55] <Xase> djdduty: if you absolutely require one for your server... I recommend LXDE
[01:55] <Xase> It's light and not too heavy, and not overly complicated.
[01:56] <djdduty> I want ubuntu desktop, with all the crap removed basicly
[01:56] <pnorman_> djdduty: ubuntu server has crap like the GUI removed :P
[01:56] <Xase> that command would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop-minimal, I believe DjMadness
[01:56] <Xase> Crap
[01:56] <Xase> DjMadness: sorryu
[01:57] <Xase> User quit before I could tab complete.
[01:57] <webnet> Xase: terminal mouse is awesome! :D
[01:57] <Xase> SYeah it is.
[01:57] <Xase> I use it on my shell :D
[01:57] <Xase> Or my text only builds.
[01:58] <Xase> I hope that fixed worked for buckshot.
[01:58] <Xase> I am going to watch a movie.
[01:58] <webnet> djdduty lxde looks good and is light. but u usually dont want a gui on a server cause it uses valuable resources...
[01:58] <Xase> I hate when people don't come back to report success.
[01:58] <Xase> webnet:  he's gone.
[01:59] <Xase> The best GUI for server... is probably that web interface for ubuntu I saw awhile back
[01:59] <Xase> It looked pretty full featured.
[01:59] <Xase> Webmin or whatever it's called
[01:59] <buckshot> Xase: Still no good.
[01:59] <Xase> buckshot: did it work?
[01:59] <Xase> Neither of them?
[01:59] <webnet> yeah.
[01:59] <buckshot> Well the second didnt.
[02:00] <buckshot> Didnt try the first. :P
[02:00] <Xase> Try the first... you may need the driver.
[02:00] <Xase> :D
[02:00] <buckshot> Resend that link to me please?
[02:00] <Xase> Just replace maverick or lucid with Oneiric
[02:00] <itaylor57> !webmin
[02:00] <Xase> Sure
[02:00] <Xase> buckshot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285 <<< Not very helpful and may still be required even though outdated.
[02:00] <buckshot> Oh, and something else, The laptop doesnt shut it self off, and booting is really long.
[02:00] <buckshot> Im not sure what to make of it...
[02:01] <webnet> i actually like ispconfig personally, is sort of high maintenence tho. lol. it uses specific tools with no flexibility, BUT it does its job for my small hostin company
[02:01] <webnet> :D
[02:02] <Xase> !ebox
[02:02] <Xase> Zentyal then is what someone should point out to djdduty when he returns
[02:02] <pnorman_> well, i guess it's time to crash my ubuntu box.
[02:02] <Xase> buckshot is the laptop REALLY new?
[02:04] <buckshot> Not terribly. Its a Sony Vaio, bought last year.
[02:05] <webnet> ubottu: OHHH! i wondered what happened to ebox! i used them a while back as a beta test when my hosting company was 1 little server doing it all :D but then the Dev went cold and i got bummed out. *checking out zental*
[02:05] <buckshot> When booting, it says it cant find a disk. I let it find that, then it cant find network which I understand that. but when i turn it off it just sits with that ubuntu screen...
[02:05] <webnet> wow im an idiot, i didnt realize ubottu was a bot :P
[02:08] <bolo56> if i type in the command prompt dpkg -l and the list is too long
[02:08] <bolo56> how do i tell it to pause the long list ?
[02:08] <buckshot> Xase?
[02:15] <webnet> OK im back :D just thought i would let you all know :P
[02:16] <somsip> bolo56: dpkg -l | more
[02:16] <bjorkintosh> why would my desktop suddenly forget its inet4 settings?
[02:18] <aj00200> Is there a way to regenerate the list of apps that unity searches for? It seems that this list has been lost or currupted or possibly broken during a reinstall where I kept my home directory on a different partition.
[02:20] <buckshot> Any body know what to do about this"Device Not Managed" on my wireless network?
[02:21] <pnorman_> I'm looking to partition a drive, but all the advice I find assumes you have a GUI or you're using the installer CD. In my case, it's neither.
[02:21] <escott> pnorman_, then use parted
[02:22] <webnet> pnorman_: try burining a live disc of parted magic
[02:24] <pnorman_> escott: Any suggestions for something with an interface similar to partman?
[02:24] <br0adcast> Hello guys
[02:25] <br0adcast> im looking for a little help, is there anybody here able to advise me on a message I have received
[02:25] <br0adcast> its regarding compiling the kernel
[02:25] <br0adcast> any help would be appriciated, thanks :)
[02:26] <escott> pnorman, not familiar with partman but you could probably find a cd with it
[02:26] <escott> br0adcast, maybe, but we won't know unless you tell us the message
[02:26] <pnorman> escott: It's the tool used on the ubuntu server install CD, but they do not recommend using it outside of a debian install CD
[02:27] <br0adcast> /home/br0adcast/compat-wireless-2011-12-08/compat-wireless-2010-10-16/config.mk:196: "WARNING: CONFIG_CFG80211_WEXT will be deactivated or not working because kernel was compiled with CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=n. Tools using wext interface like iwconfig will not work. To activate it build your kernel e.g. with CONFIG_LIBIPW=m."
[02:27] <br0adcast> ./scripts/gen-compat-autoconf.sh config.mk > include/linux/compat_autoconf.h
[02:27] <br0adcast> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.35-31-generic/build M=/home/br0adcast/compat-wireless-2011-12-08/compat-wireless-2010-10-16 modules
[02:27] <br0adcast> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.35-31-generic/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[02:27] <br0adcast> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[02:27] <pnorman> I suppose since I'm dealing with a blank drive, I don't really have to worry about screwing up
[02:27] <br0adcast> that is the error escott :)
[02:27] <FloodBot1> br0adcast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <br0adcast> yes mr floodbot :)
[02:28] <br0adcast> how did I know that was going to happen :)
[02:28] <br0adcast> i am trying to install the compat wireless drivers escott
[02:28] <br0adcast> im using 10.04
[02:29] <br0adcast> I have upgraded the kernel because i want trim support, but when i update kernel, I get this message when i try to reinstall and repatch the drivers
[02:29] <br0adcast> due to the message, I would like to know what i means by compiling with CONFIG_LIBIPW=m
[02:29] <zromayn> hello there, can anybody show me any document showing how to export an encrypted directory? I encrypted my home dir. If I try exporting it, i get "exportfs: /home/usuer1/backup does not support NFS export"
[02:30] <psusi> br0adcast, why don't you just install 11.10?
[02:30] <br0adcast> psusi, I have, well, 10.10 and upgraded from update manager to 11.10
[02:30] <br0adcast> but system hangs
[02:30] <br0adcast> and im too nub to be able to work out why hehe
[02:31] <psusi> br0adcast, just do a clean install of 11.10 ;)
[02:31] <br0adcast> and, if I learned how, fixing it would be another matter im sure
[02:31] <br0adcast> psusi, but it will be the same kernel right?
[02:31] <br0adcast> surely the same issue will arrise
[02:31] <psusi> same as what?
[02:31] <br0adcast> as updating to 11.10 from within 10.10
[02:31] <psusi> which issue?
[02:32] <br0adcast> the system hanging when i install compat wireless 2.6 and 2 patches
[02:32] <psusi> the freeze very well may be because of old stuff left from the upgrade... try the 11.10 live cd and if it works, then just do a clean install
[02:33] <br0adcast> it would be more ideal to install it fresh and try it, not really good for me to try live cd
[02:33] <psusi> well, try to walk before you run
[02:33] <br0adcast> hmmm
[02:33] <br0adcast> well, i cant really patch and change drivers etc on a live cd and be able to test it correctly
[02:33] <br0adcast> it is going to be more certain to try on an install
[02:33] <psusi> what do you need to patch for?
[02:34] <br0adcast> ive installed about 3 different distros 100+ times this week, so its no biggy anyways :)
[02:34] <psusi> hehe
[02:34] <br0adcast> the patch is to release my wifi card in monitor mode from being stuck to a perticular channel
[02:34] <Ryukoji> you guys ever use CrunchBang linux?
[02:34]  * FauxReal installed 48k rhel boxes, and is tired... ;)
[02:34] <escott> !crunchbang | Ryukoji
[02:35] <Ryukoji> no you dont understand escott
[02:35] <Ryukoji> im just saying if anyone has ever tried it
[02:35] <br0adcast> so, any ideas escott?
[02:36] <zromayn> hello there, can anybody show me any document showing how to export an encrypted directory? I encrypted my home dir. If I try exporting it, i get "exportfs: /home/usuer1/backup does not support NFS export"
[02:36] <escott> Ryukoji, and im giving you a channel you can ask people who have
[02:36] <aj00200> zromayn: are you trying to recover it?
[02:36] <escott> br0adcast, no that seems like a different build processs
[02:37] <psusi> zromayn, that kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
[02:37] <zromayn> aj00200: no, it's not for data recovery. I just want to be able to export it over NFS
[02:37] <zromayn> aj00200: unless, you really can't export an encrypted dir at all.
[02:38] <br0adcast> ok thank you anyways escott :)
[02:38] <aj00200> hmm, I'm not sure. There may be other ways to do what you want as well. Does it need to be NFS? For example, could a one time data transfer with scp work, or maybe sync with a free Ubuntu Cloud account?
[02:39] <pnorman_> parted is warning me about non-optimal alignment. How do I do it with the optimal alignment?
[02:39] <marsha> is it possible for nautilus to search for keywords within files?
[02:40] <psusi> pnorman, start parted with -a optimal?
[02:41] <pnorman_> psusi: still warning me
[02:41] <hatch> trying to connect to a windows vpn but all i'm getting is that it failed because it failed to start....ubuntu 11
[02:41] <psusi> pnorman, how are you specifying the partition position?
[02:42] <pnorman> psusi: 0 100%. seems to of worked with 0% 100%
[02:42] <somsip> marsha: not that I know of, but it's easy from the terminal http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-search-find-file-for-text-string/
[02:43] <marsha> somsip thanks
[02:48] <khoover> hey, anyone here who could help me w/ a touchpad problem?
[02:49] <kimp> webnet, I have just installed an earlier version (10.04.3) and it has fixed my woes - nice one...
[02:49] <br0adcast> whats up khoover
[02:49] <khoover> bro0adcast, seems like xorg's picking it up, but it's just not sending events
[02:49] <khoover> even evtest is getting nothing off of it.
[02:50] <semitones> I have 10.10. I know you're not supposed to, but what would happen if I changed my sources.lst to have "oneiric" and just apt-get updated?
[02:50] <kimp> time for lunch!
[02:50] <xangua> semitones: you don't wanna know ;)
[02:50] <xangua> or experience
[02:52] <br0adcast> semitones do you mean kernel wise? oneiric kernel works fine on 10.04
[02:52] <khoover> br0adcast, hit an o and the 0, what i said above
[02:52] <br0adcast> is it a hp laptop khaard
[02:52] <br0adcast> khoover,*
[02:53] <semitones> I wawnt to know :P
[02:53] <khoover> no, acer aspire 5742, ETPS/2 Elantech
[02:53] <airtonix> why would my keystrokes be normal plain everyday normal human normal english one second then FREAKOUT and suddenly! japanese everywhere in my terminal and none of my keystrokes are normal everyday human english?
[02:53] <semitones> br0adcast: not kernel-wise, just what would happen if I didn't update incrementally, but in one giant leap
[02:54] <br0adcast> ahh right hehe.. try it :P
[02:54] <semitones> :p br0adcast for SCIENCE!
[02:54] <br0adcast> of course
[02:54] <br0adcast> i have reinstalled about 100 times this week, easy now heh
[02:54] <N7OKL> Dual boot issue...completely stopped booting from linux, but will boot from a windows disk....help please
[02:55] <khoover> airtonix, あなたは、日本人に問題がありますか?
[02:55] <airtonix> one second : i was typing in english through ssh to my remote ubuntu natty server from my ubuntu natty desktop , the next : characters i type are japanese
[02:55] <airtonix> logging out and back in via ssh terminal changes nothing
[02:56] <WanderingEnder> Hey, does 11.10 minimal's xubuntu installation come with VMWare Client Tools by default?
[02:56] <airtonix> characters i type on a terminal in my desktop are normal english
[02:56] <somsip> WanderingEnder: from experience, minimal install is JEEP
[02:56] <khoover> br0adcast, acer aspire 5742, ETPS/2 Elantech touchpad*
[02:57] <br0adcast> hmm, im not sure i can help you bro, sorry about that
[02:57] <n00bArmy> hey
[02:57] <br0adcast> only really know synaptecs
[02:57] <airtonix> sweeeeeet, now i can't configure anything
[02:58] <br0adcast> escott, sorry to ask you again, but do you have any idea where the argument CONFIG_LIBIPW=m would actually be used when recompilling the kernel, I will research it fully and not at risk of losing anything, but currently, it means nothing to me :S
[02:59] <br0adcast> lol airtonix :)
[02:59] <br0adcast> its fun breaking stuff :)
[02:59] <airtonix> not really
[02:59] <br0adcast> well i enjoy it
[02:59] <N7OKL> help please....dual boot XP/10.04lts...worked fine for several months...now will not boot from any linux media (even live...just a DMA error loop) but boots fine from any windows media...help please
[02:59] <airtonix> i didn't actually do anything to cause this as far as i know
[02:59] <webnet> kimp: glad to heaar. i suspect it was the updated kernel that was giving you trouble. Im not sure what they did or added or took out...
[03:00] <khoover> hey br0adcast, this fix look legit? http://www.daniweb.com/hardware-and-software/linux-and-unix/linux-kernel-and-hardware-setup/threads/206118
[03:00] <|Long|> hi guys, what is the cmd to open a dir?
[03:00] <airtonix> cd
[03:01] <|Long|> david@lcnn:/dev$ cd sdl1
[03:01] <|Long|> -bash: cd: sdl1: Not a directory
[03:01] <khoover> br0adcast, and nvm, file doesn't exist. was working fine before my computer frozen, had to kill the power while some updates were still waiting on a reset.
[03:01] <webnet> |Long| cd /[path]/[to]/[dir]
[03:01] <gizmobay> When I do a "ls" in a directory some of the files are red. Does anyone know why?
[03:01] <br0adcast> i really couldnt say khoover, been playing with lots of so called cosher fixes recently
[03:01] <br0adcast> most of them didnt work
[03:01] <tucemiux_l> someone please yelp!  I just upgraded and now I can't use my video card: Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid.
[03:02] <khoover> br0adcast, thing is, was working absolutely fine before, did everything i wanted.
[03:02] <khoover> i mean, what could've happened in one hard shut-down that destroys all functionality?
[03:07] <khoover> br0adcast, should my xorg.0.d/synaptics.config file be empty save for touchpad catchall?
[03:07] <khoover> xorg.conf.d*
[03:08] <bsmith093> can i safely delete the tmp folder
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> bsmith093, you can empty it
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> but you should keep it nevertheless.
[03:08] <bsmith093> how
[03:08] <khoover> bsmith093, sudo rm -r / should do the trick. :P
[03:08] <bjorkintosh> c'mon khoover
[03:09] <bsmith093> no wait that eill dump everyhting
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> bsmith093, what do you need to do that for?
[03:09] <bsmith093> im out of space literally
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> your system might be configured to do it automatically anyway.
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> ah.
[03:09] <bjorkintosh> remove the pr0n from your machine.
[03:09] <bsmith093> i need to changesome workspaces from tmp to something on the home parttivo
[03:09] <khoover> bjorkintosh, sorry, mildly upset at my system destroying the xorg synaptics.conf file
[03:10] <khoover> only a friggin touchpad catchall in there
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> khoover, a recent upgrade has nuked my nic.
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> i'm not happy either.
[03:10] <bsmith093> sudo rm -r /tmp?
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> bsmith093, rm -rf /tmp/*
[03:10] <khoover> -f?
[03:10] <bjorkintosh> yeah.
[03:10] <bsmith093> ru absolutely sure
[03:10] <philip> there is *no* need to put the f
[03:11] <bsmith093> screw it im opening nautilus in root and going tht way
[03:11] <bjorkintosh> so why does the 'f' exist.
[03:11] <philip> it's unlikely you will even get prompted for anything when typing sudo rm -r /tmp/*
[03:12] <philip> but the -f exists to force "yes" to prompts afaik, and ignore files that don't exist according to man
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> philip, how do you know rm is not aliased to rm -i ?
[03:12]  * khoover goes back to the rm docs...
[03:12] <WzTian> if it's aliased to rm -i, just use rm -I
[03:12] <philip> if you're really woried about that you can type alias
[03:12] <philip> to check
[03:12] <bjorkintosh> or.
[03:13] <bjorkintosh> avoid a discussion
[03:13] <bjorkintosh> and rm -rf /tmp/*
[03:13] <ubuntu1> Hi, is there a way to find out where the grub stage 2 files are located? On which partition?
[03:14] <philip> whatever, sounds like a way to get hosed, no need to force things, rm -f is bad, so is kill -9
[03:14] <bjorkintosh> kill -9 works.
[03:14] <philip> plenty of internet webpages, linux books, and flamewars in here (i am sure) dedicated to this
[03:14] <pnorman_> kill -9 works, but it shouldn't be your first choice
[03:15] <pbink> hey folks...does the Auto-mount feature actually work in the latest vboxadditions version?  if so, is it supposed to somehow determine the guest OS and make it available automatically?
[03:15] <pbink> for shared folders i mean
[03:16] <almoxarife> pbink: so far not for me
[03:16] <pnorman_> pbink: it worked for me. ubuntu 11.04 guest, windows 7 host. Can't remember what I did exactly, and I have a dedicated ubuntu box now
[03:17] <ubuntu1> I need to delete a partition and I would want to ensure that grub files are not located there
[03:17] <pbink> almoxarife:  are you running 10.04?
[03:17] <almoxarife> pbink: nope, 11.10
[03:17] <pbink> i've got xp host 10.04 guest...no luck here
[03:18] <khoover> Stepnjump, not entirely sure on this one, but, iirc, partitions are registered as separate drives in nautilus, righ?
[03:18] <pbink> and what's strange is when i try to use 'mount -t vboxsf SharedFolderName /mnt/shared' mount yells at me like i input incorrect params
[03:18] <pbink> with no descriptive error
[03:18] <almoxarife> pbink: I think there is a bug in the latest virtualbox, it just worked before, now it does not
[03:18] <pbink> hmm
[03:19] <pbink> any clue why my manual mount command wouldn't work?
[03:19] <Stepnjump> khoover: yes I think so
[03:19] <khoover> Stepnjump, well, just check for whichever drive /grub's in, and try not to nuke it
[03:21] <meshuggah> hello, i try to install but it ask me about no root file system defined?
[03:21] <Stepnjump> there has to be a way to know for sure khoover
[03:22] <khoover> Stepnjump, there likely is; all i can say is, if a partition's marked as boot-able, don't touch it. why put grub in a non-boot partition?
[03:22] <escott> meshuggah, if you picked the manual partitioning you need to make a partition with a mount point of / it should be at least 10-20gigs
[03:23] <ovhan> when i installed ubuntu os 11.10 and it asked me what i wanted it for (i.e. mail server, etc) i hit enter accidentally , how can i find that list again after its installed and choose what i want or do i have to reinstall it
[03:25] <wspardaw> s
[03:25] <frogonwheels> ovhan: There's a 'tasks' category of virtual package that I believe will do the trick
[03:25] <wspardaw> hi all
[03:25] <boourns> overdub, "sudo tasksel" i think
[03:26] <boourns> ovhan i mean
[03:26] <frogonwheels> thanks boourns :)
[03:26] <ovhan> ty, i just installed ubuntu, first time use
[03:29] <neuro_sys> http://media.slated.org/albums/userpics/10002/ubuntu.png
[03:29] <maum> how can I enter the root path
[03:29] <maum> ?
[03:30] <emmetea> i was trying to install gparted using "sudo apt-get install gparted" and i get and error about libparted0 being the wrong version
[03:30] <br0adcast> in nautilus gksudo nautilus then navigate to /
[03:30] <ovhan> yes tasksel looks about right ty
[03:30] <frogonwheels> nice trolling from neuro_sys - still funny but :)
[03:31] <ovhan> i dont get it ...
[03:31] <ovhan> oh
[03:31] <ovhan> nvm
[03:31] <emmetea> specifically  gparted: Depends: libparted0 (>= 2.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
[03:31] <garden92>  simple scan quit connecting to my scanner. help.
[03:31] <somsip> maum: cd /
[03:32] <wspardaw> k
[03:33] <maum> somsip, I am not sure it's not working . when I enter "sensors-detect" command, it said "You need to be root to run this script."
[03:33] <pnorman_> maum: sudo sensors-detect
[03:33] <somsip> maum: you asked the wrong question. you need "sudo sensors-detect"
[03:33] <somsip> s/wrong/ambiguous
[03:34] <i2c> yo guys is there anyway to make my mouse wheel scroll more lines throughout ubuntu?
[03:35] <maum> I could check the temperature but in conkyrc file it's not working
[03:35] <maum> something like this :    ${color6}Core 1: $color $alignr ${execi 10 sensors | grep 'Core 0' | grep -o '\+.*)'}
[03:35] <robin0800> maum: preface the command with sudo
[03:36] <somsip> i2c: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/27270/increasing-scroll-speed
[03:37] <pbink> anyone help me figure out why when i'm trying to use 'sudo mount -t SharedFolderName /media/windows' my mount command just gives me the Usage:... information?
[03:37] <ovhan> how do i find out how much my server is taking up ram
[03:37] <ovhan> is there a command
[03:37] <somsip> ovhan: free
[03:37] <i2c> wow I can't change it systemwide? I'm sorry, but for as great as linux is, I miss the little things from windows
[03:37] <ovhan> what somsip
[03:38] <somsip> ovhan: that is the command to show memory usage
[03:38] <ovhan> ah
[03:38] <ovhan> cool ty
[03:38] <ovhan> ya it worked ty
[03:38] <webnet> i2c i actually think you can... hold on
[03:38] <maum> I did like this :    ${color6}Core 1: $color $alignr ${execi 10 sudo sensors | grep 'Core 0' | grep -o '\+.*)'}
[03:38] <maum> but it's not working
[03:38] <ovhan> 309000 neat =D
[03:38] <ovhan> its using less then i thought it was gonna :D
[03:41] <wspardaw> f
[03:41] <emmetea> if it try to install the lib it says libparted0: Depends: libparted0debian1 (= 2.2-5ubuntu5) but 2.2-5ubuntu5.1 is to be installed
[03:44] <emmetea> its the lts release so i figured things like that wouldnt be broken
[03:45] <webnet> i2c i cant find it.... it may not be there as i thought
[03:47] <almoxarife> emmetea: the ppa broke it
[03:49] <tepedibi13> hii
[03:51] <wsparda> help
[03:52] <almoxarife> the jpg is a keeper, nice wallpaper
[03:52] <Arcademan> wsparda, what is it you need?
[03:54] <emmetea> is there anyway i could just force gparted to install even though it says there are broken dependencies?
[03:54] <bzrk> hi there, does anyone know how to install ubuntu 11.10 without ubiquity? only cli?
[03:55] <somsip> bzrk: use the minimal install cd
[03:56] <bzrk> somsip: kthx
[03:56] <wsparda> hi all
[03:56] <antipragmatist> my at&t wireless modem works with windows7,
[03:56] <antipragmatist> but it disconnects from ubuntu 11.10
[03:56] <antipragmatist> is there a know problem?
[03:56] <somsip> emmetea: keep forcing individual upgrades until gparted stops complaining. It's worked for me in th past
[03:57] <emmetea> somsip: it keeps hiccuping when i try and force libparted0debian1
[03:57] <djdduty> hello ubuntu!
[03:57] <djdduty> I got ubuntu server installed
[03:57] <somsip> !libparted0debian1
[03:57] <djdduty> now... I have no idea how to use it
[03:57] <djdduty> how do I install the gui that someone reccomended to me?
[03:58] <antipragmatist> damn
[03:58] <somsip> djdduty: sudo apt-get install {name of gui}
[03:58] <antipragmatist> 11.10 is a pain up my ass
[03:58] <somsip> emmetea: is that a valid package name?
[03:58] <djdduty> somsip you know any?
[03:58] <emmetea> somsip: its from if i try and install libparted0
[03:59] <emmetea> djdduty: why installing gui if its a server?
[03:59] <somsip> emmetea: what does sudo apt-get install libparted tell you?
[03:59] <djdduty> emmetea: just playing around
[04:00] <djdduty> but do you guys know any guis?
[04:00] <somsip> djdduty: then you will get a lot of additional dependencies if you do what I just told you. xserver, drivers...lots
[04:00] <WanderingEnder> djdduty: You're going to desktop on a ubuntu server install?
[04:00] <antipragmatist> would be 11.10 users take my advice, DON'T install IT unless you enjoy pain and heartache
[04:00] <djdduty> xD
[04:00] <djdduty> I am just screwing around
[04:00] <djdduty> seeing my preferences
[04:00] <somsip> djdduty: http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20081209153125602/WindowManagers.html
[04:01] <WanderingEnder> antipragmatist: Your individual experience is not data.
[04:01] <djdduty> thank you
[04:01] <somsip> !tab | djdduty
[04:01] <somsip> that wasn't the one I intended...
[04:01] <OttifantSir> I'm writing some scripts to (de)activate mods in the game Warzone2100. If anyone would care to look over my scripts, they can be found here: http://ottilaptop.ottifantsir.operaunite.com/Warzone/
[04:01] <djdduty> LXDE any good?
[04:01] <djdduty> that is the one someone reccomended
[04:01] <WanderingEnder> somsip: you mean the one that says preface each line with someone's name so we know what the heck you're talking about?
[04:01] <WanderingEnder> !polls | djdduty
[04:02] <somsip> WanderingEnder: yeah - what's the ! for that again?
[04:02] <antipragmatist> WanderingEnder, perhaps, however, it is the general consensus among 11.10 users
[04:02] <WanderingEnder> somsip: I forget myself.
[04:02] <somsip> WanderingEnder: heh :)
[04:02] <WanderingEnder> antipragmatist: If you're bitching about Unity, get in line, but that isn't really a support request or supporting others. They decided to use it, so we either adapt or use something else. I'm liking xubuntu.
[04:03] <somsip> antipragmatist: I just posted a list of 21 alternative WMs for djdduty. Try one?
[04:03] <emmetea> somsip: if i try and upgrade libparted thats when it tells me  libparted0debian1 is the newest version
[04:04] <somsip> emmetea: what version og ubuntu? And you're trying to install parted or gparted?
[04:04] <emmetea> somsip: gparted, but install gparted breaks with libparted0 dependecies. i believe the version is the lts release
[04:04] <somsip> emmetea: erm...lsb-release for the release?
[04:05] <phenrique> hello, the update manager shows 40 updates but when i try to install show "Need installation of untrusted packages" and it is not possible continue....
[04:05] <somsip> emmetea:  or cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:05] <emmetea> somsip: returns with no LSB modules available
[04:06] <emmetea> 10.04.2 lts
[04:06] <emmetea> somsip: catting it worked
[04:06] <phenrique> what i can to do?
[04:06] <somsip> emmetea: and how are you install gparted?
[04:06] <somsip> emmetea: translate that?
[04:07] <emmetea> somsip: originally "sudo apt-get install gparted" however the same error happened with synaptic also
[04:07] <skilz> Hey im trying to play the classic minecraft in firefox, I have the icedtea6-plugin installed, I see the java applet load and it displays Minecraft quickly then leaves me at a blank screen
[04:07] <somsip> emmetea: so is it working now or not?
[04:07] <emmetea> somsip: trying cat /etc/lsb-release worked, but trying lsb_release said there were no modules
[04:08] <skilz> Do I need something else installed or what?
[04:08] <emmetea> somsip: negative, it is not working
[04:08] <OttifantSir> phenrique: I think the reason is that the repos has been updated, and the authentication file has somehow been "lost" or not updated. It's happened before, and usually resolves within a few hours or a day or two when the repos get updated again
[04:08] <skilz> I can't even right click on the black box to bring up a menu
[04:08] <somsip> emmetea: so you're on 10.04, you can't install gparted using apt-get or synaptic due to libparted errors, yes?
[04:09] <emmetea> somsip: yes.
[04:09] <somsip> emmetea: could be of interest and marked as solved - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1594111.html
[04:10] <_Tristan> Hey, how can I record pulseaudio output to an mp3 file? I've done a bunch of research but everything I find is outdated/doesn't work
[04:10] <emmetea> somsip: thank you checking it out
[04:10] <sdjf> brassero is a serious mess, it's one of the things that get me disappointed of linux sometimes. Hard to believe that after all this time a major linux distribution can't burn cd's properly.
[04:10] <ovhan> how do i check for updates on my ubuntu 11.10 server
[04:11] <gizmobay> When I do a "ls" in a directory some of the files are highlighted red. Does anyone know why?
[04:11] <MrCleanWithHair> ovhan, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:11] <somsip> emmetea: other suggests appear to include fix broken packages, or remove libparted and install gparted to see if it pulls it in. Not sure what else that might break though
[04:11] <MrCleanWithHair> gizmobay, do the files end with .tar
[04:11] <ovhan> ty mrclean
[04:11] <gizmobay> no
[04:11] <somsip> sdjf: fine here as long as i use low speeds, but you could try xfburn
[04:12] <PPPPPPP> Does running "ping my_server.com -f" really slow down a server at all?
[04:12] <gizmobay> S02nxserver
[04:12] <gizmobay> I removed the package, nxserver
[04:12] <antipragmatist> hi
[04:12] <gizmobay> The files show in red but there isn't a file
[04:12] <antipragmatist> what is fbi surveilance van #24?
[04:13] <ovhan> MrCleanWithHair: so are those 2 commands the same thing
[04:13] <MrCleanWithHair> ovhan, no. update updates the list of packages and upgrade prompts you to upgrade to newer versions
[04:14] <BobDull> I have looked around the internet and have found most topics discuss using either expect/send, or editing the sudoer's file to have the ability to run a bash script as any user. I have had no luck. Can someone help me run a sudo command from a bash script even if a password is required?
[04:14] <MrCleanWithHair> gizmobay, generally files show up red (or green or blue) because you have color output for ls enabled in your .bashrc file
[04:14] <ovhan> MrCleanWithHair:  so update updates my package lists?
[04:14] <somsip> antipragmatist: it's possibly someone with a wifi access point and a sense of humour
[04:14] <gizmobay> I see
[04:14] <skilz> How can I install apt-get sun-java6-jre
[04:14] <BobDull> I know the password, and I don't have any real security concerns for the specific task, unfortunately I can't just echo "passwordhere" | sudo command here
[04:14] <MrCleanWithHair> ovhan, yes. and upgrade will tell you what can be upgrade and ask you if you want to do so
[04:15] <BobDull> because that doesn't work. It always pauses by script at the password prompt.
[04:15] <somsip> BobDull: you need a tee..
[04:15] <nac-godfather> If someone says their goal is to purchase a laptop that is linux friendly;  They don't know enough about computers to deserve to install linux, and neither deserve the money to purchase said laptop, and should provide me with the funds to equip a Sager NP8150 with a GTX 485M and the works (16GB RAM etc.)!
[04:15] <skilz> DO I need to enable non-free?
[04:15] <fearlesspancakes> whats the command to install/setup an init.d script?
[04:15] <BobDull> somsip: I don't know what a tee is.
[04:15] <skilz> !tell skilz about non-free
[04:15] <OttifantSir> PPPPPPP: pinging a server once doesn't slow down a server, but incessant pinging several times a second from multiple locations might (Distributed Denial Of Service)
[04:15] <somsip> BobDull: last example of first answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/82256/how-do-i-use-sudo-to-redirect-output-to-a-location-i-dont-have-permission-to-wr
[04:15] <nac-godfather> omg OttifantSir, no probably not.
[04:16] <BobDull> ok, I'll check it out. Thanks.
[04:16] <nac-godfather> that's a botnet with ping flooding.
[04:16] <nac-godfather> not a single ping from multiple locations, otherwise there would be no internet worth looking at.
[04:16] <OttifantSir> nac-godfather: OK. Thanks for the correction.
[04:16] <gizmobay> Thanks MrCleanWithHair
[04:17] <OttifantSir> I've written some scripts to help (de)activate mods in Warzone2100 and would appreciate someone looking them over: http://ottilaptop.ottifantsir.operaunite.com/Warzone/
[04:17] <emmetea> somsip: thanks i think that will have solved the problem, just have to head over to that computer to try it
 does addint the " -f" make it ping several times a second?
[04:18] <almoxarife> skilz: there is a ppa for sun-java, install it
[04:18] <Flatlined> Anyone using " Ndiswrapper " if so what chip ?
[04:18] <ovhan> ubuntu server 11.10: how do i check how much space i have on my hdd , or info on it or something
[04:18] <somsip> ovhan: du -h
[04:19] <OttifantSir> PPPPPPP: I just have basic understanding of pinging, and have already been proven wrong in my assumptions, so I don't know
[04:19] <skilz> almoxarife, ppa? what do I have to do?
[04:19] <somsip> ovhan: er... df -h
[04:19] <ovhan> oh , k was gonna say it didnt work =P ty
[04:19] <BobDull> somsip: not sure if I understand, when it sudo tee's, does that take what is in test.out and use that to fill in the password?
[04:19] <somsip> ovhan: it worked, just told you want you didn't want to know :)
[04:19] <ovhan> is tmpfs temporary files?
[04:20] <ovhan> -facepalm- lol thanks for that som =P
[04:20] <ovhan> so what DID du -h do ?
 ok well thanks! According to the man page "-f" is the "flood" command so i THINK it will work.
[04:20] <ovhan> nvm , ill check
[04:20] <somsip> BobDull: it allows the echo (which does not have sudo rights) to be written to a program that ius given sudo rights. The explanation on the URL I gave is better than that. But I don't know what you want to use it for so YMMV
[04:20] <almoxarife> !info ppa | skilz
[04:20] <bsmith093> what does this mean?
[04:20] <bsmith093> GConf error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Server ping error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[04:20] <somsip> ovhan: current directory disk usage
[04:20] <almoxarife> !ppa
[04:21] <Flatlined> Anyone using " Ndiswrapper "
[04:21] <ovhan> ty som , but manual told me =P
[04:21] <somsip> ovhan: good move
[04:21] <ovhan> so wait what is this info then , file space?
[04:22] <skilz> almoxarife, whats the ppa url?
[04:22] <ovhan> "du - estimate file space usage"
[04:22] <skilz> to add in sources.list
[04:22] <BobDull> Oh. somsip, I don't want to be rude but I think that *may* be more than the purpose of this script. It is just a 5 line script that just needs to run Synergy Client and connect to a localhost, but the client needs sudo. So, when the computer boots up I have it automatically run, and since it is on-boot, it is the first time sudo is used, so I am trying to automate password entry.
[04:22] <ovhan> the output is 4.0k    ./. cache
[04:22] <ovhan> 24k                            .
[04:22] <ovhan> so whats that mean somsip
[04:22] <BobDull> Maybe I'm missing how easy it is :-/
[04:23] <somsip> BobDull: And I was missing the point. Can you copy the script to pastebin as I don't get what you're needing to do
[04:23] <BobDull> Yup.
[04:23] <MrCleanWithHair> BobDull, yeah a pastebin would be really helpful
[04:23] <skilz> almoxarife, im on some launchpad site is that correct?
[04:24] <somsip> ovhan: total usage of the current directory is 24k, 4k of that is used by cache directory
[04:24] <ovhan> wait, so your saying im using 24 mb of space? on my hdd?
[04:24] <somsip> ovhan: since when has k meant mb?
[04:24] <skilz> !addppa
[04:24] <almoxarife> skilz: some? you need the specific ppa for sun-java, that's what you want? not the built in open java, right?
[04:25] <ovhan> simsip i thought it meant k as in thousands of killo bytes
[04:25] <ovhan> so its using 24 kilobytes?
[04:25] <ovhan> that sounds even less right
[04:25] <skilz> almoxarife, Yes I want sun-java
[04:25] <almoxarife> skilz: using server or desktop?
[04:25] <skilz> server
[04:25] <somsip> ovhan: kilo bytes (thousand bytyes) mega bytes (really good bytes), or 1024 kilo bytes
[04:25] <ovhan> and somsip , i just started using this today
[04:26] <MrCleanWithHair> whats the going rate for a kilo now a days?
[04:26] <ovhan> yes somsip i know this
[04:26] <ovhan> and 1024 mb's is a gb
[04:26] <somsip> ovhan: you asked. I'm out
[04:26] <MrCleanWithHair> but don't get your bytes confused with your bits
[04:26] <_Tristan> Does anybody know how to pipe pulseaudio output to an mp3 file?
[04:26] <kmthein> On Ubuntu, which open source project management software have you ever used, and which one would you recommend?
[04:26] <OttifantSir> somsip: Not technically correct. A Kilobyte is 1000 bytes, wheres a Kibibyte is 1024 bytes
[04:26] <somsip> _Tristan: you want to record from your soundcard?
[04:26] <_Tristan> somsip: the output, yeah
[04:27] <pnorman_> OttifantSir: Only if you're a revisionist drive maker
[04:27] <somsip> OttifantSir: I'm happy to be inaccurate in situations where accuracy is not important
[04:27] <emmetea> somsip: damn i was hoping that would have worked :(
[04:28] <BobDull> http://pastebin.com/ZLaxsMxX
[04:28] <OttifantSir> pnorman and somsip: I know the term is used like somsip did, I am just nitpicking and it is a teaching point.
[04:28] <SlayersZ> hmmm, what is a good laptop to buy xD
[04:29] <somsip> OttifantSir: fair enough. I ahve no argument
[04:29] <almoxarife> skilz: on your machine interacting with the server assuming it's a linux machine install y-ppa manager, great for hunting down ppas
[04:29] <_Tristan> SlayersZ: one of those ugly black boxes lenovo makes. They last forever.
[04:29] <Flatlined> IBM levtro
[04:29] <somsip> SlayersZ: is this something to do with ubuntu?
[04:30] <pnorman_> SlayersZ: define what you're going to be doing with it, figure out your requirements, then come up with options and look at hardware compatibility lists
[04:31] <cliff_> I am currently using backtrack4, and copied the /etc/sources.list file from ubuntu to the backtrack4 sources.list, because the offensive-security repos were down.  Now i'm having some issues
[04:31] <emmetea> somsip: essentially libparted wants 2.2-5ubuntu5 and it has 2.2-5ubuntu5.1
[04:31] <almoxarife> cliff_: you broke ubuntu?
[04:31] <WanderingEnder> !backtrack | cliff_
[04:31] <almoxarife> :)
[04:32] <cliff_> okie dokie
[04:32] <WanderingEnder> cliff_: they'll be happy to help you in #backtrack-linux, or you can wipe your backtrack installation, use a supported derivative and we can help.
[04:32] <somsip> emmetea: have you tried forcing gparted?
[04:32] <Flatlined> !rtl8187l
[04:32] <somsip> emmetea: then fix packages. Could be bad advice that.
[04:32] <Flatlined> !rtl8187
[04:32] <WanderingEnder> !vmware
[04:32] <emmetea> somsip: that was my original question: how could i force gparted or libparted0 to install?
[04:33] <WanderingEnder> Not quite what I wanted, but that mway do.
[04:33] <Flatlined> !ndiswrapper
[04:33] <emmetea> somsip: so no i havent tried forcing it, not really sure of the command
[04:34] <somsip> emmetea: --force-yes but man recommends this is a Bad Thing
[04:34] <emmetea> somsip: outside of downloading the .deb and dpkg'ing it which i havent tried
[04:34] <somsip> emmetea: have you tried fixing broken with -f?
[04:34] <emmetea> somsip: oh, yes then i have tried that and it did not work. and yes i tried with the -f also
[04:35] <ovhan> ubuntu server 11.10: is there a DOS directory kinda command for this? like the old dir command
[04:35] <somsip> emmetea: rebuilt source lists? Again it may not be something you want to do
[04:35] <somsip> ovhan: ls
[04:36] <somsip> ovhan: called the bash prompt. There are many simple tutorials
[04:36] <emmetea> somsip: yeah just tried rebuilding the source list. thinking about just burning a gparted disc and working it that way for now
[04:37] <ovhan> kk somsip ill lookit up thanks
[04:37] <somsip> emmetea: with reports of others with the same problem I'd hope there is a simple fix out there, but short of googling I have no specific idea
[04:39] <ovhan> can ubuntu server 11.10 have multiple hdd's? just checking before i do it trial and error style =P lol
[04:40] <skilz> ovhan, Yes
[04:40] <emmetea> ovhan: all unix oses should allow for multiple hds
[04:41] <ovhan> kk
[04:41] <ovhan> ty
[04:41] <Flatlined> Anyone using " Ndiswrapper " if so what chip ?
[04:41] <WanderingEnder> Anyone familiar with open-vm-tools, and if it works "as well" as VMWare's own VMWare Client Tools for Linux?
[04:41]  * pnorman_ has 8 HDDs in his server
[04:42] <ovhan> D=
[04:42] <ovhan> lucky
[04:42] <ovhan> im making a server out of a old pc and some old parts
[04:42] <ovhan> >.>
[04:42] <ovhan> ugh is there any way to have the date command show am/pm time instead of the 1-24 hour army time thing
[04:42] <Flatlined> <-- runs on usb
[04:42] <WanderingEnder> ovhan: It can support hardware RAID controllers, software RAID, SATA, IDE/PATA, and some other exotic HDD controllers. My 1U runs Server, and it has 5 UDDs.
[04:42] <WanderingEnder> HDDs, even.
[04:43] <pnorman_> If using it for files or media, do not try that unless it has SATA support. I found it was cheaper to buy a new motherboard than to buy IDE drives
[04:43] <ovhan> no i have them lieing around
[04:43] <WanderingEnder> pnorman_: Try 10k USCSI3 drives. :)
[04:44] <ovhan> 10k uscsb drives?
[04:44] <skilz> Is there a sun-java web browser plugin?
[04:44] <WanderingEnder> Ultra SCSI 3.
[04:44] <somsip> ovhan: date - when/where/why do you want to do this?
[04:44] <skilz> firefox
[04:44] <ovhan> yes skilz i believe so
[04:44] <ovhan> somsip because im more comfortable reading the am pm time , =P
[04:45] <somsip> skilz: icedtea-web
[04:45] <pnorman_> WanderingEnder: SATA has been around for a long time, so I'd question using a motherboard that doesn't support it anyways.
[04:45] <ovhan> skilz one moment ill look for the link i jsut read
[04:45] <somsip> ovhan: where is it displayed?
[04:46] <ovhan> somsip when i type date it displays it
[04:46] <WanderingEnder> pnorman_: Most of my rackmounts are Generation 2 to Generation 3 servers.
[04:46] <ovhan> output is thu dec 8 23:41:30 est 2011
[04:46] <ovhan> last time i did it
[04:46] <nac-godfather> any news on a eye-candy solution for gnome-shell yet?
[04:46] <ovhan> skilz:  are you using the ubuntu server?
[04:46] <somsip> ovhan: bash commands all take parameters. You need to change the output of date to do what you want. type "man date"
[04:47] <ovhan> oh dur , i didnt try manual
[04:47] <ovhan> fudge
[04:47] <ovhan> ty
[04:48] <somsip> ovhan: that will lead you onto alias. This would be where you set an alias of "date" to actually run "date -s "my date format string" so it works transparently
[04:48] <ovhan> ahh i see
[04:48] <somsip> *not -s, but whatever it should be
[04:48] <robin0800> nac-godfather: there is now an extensions site
[04:50] <ovhan> sry i know this isnt he place to ask but, im using a desktop pc with room for only 1 hdd , is it alright to just leave the other hanging around like , ontop?
[04:50] <pnorman_> ovhan: bad idea
[04:50] <ovhan> figured so =\
[04:51] <ovhan> hmmmm
[04:51] <ovhan> maybe i can get a usb cdrom since the 1 in there is sucky anyways and then put a hdd where the cdrom is
[04:52] <pnorman_> You can do it and under ideal conditions it works
[04:52] <ovhan> god i hate these things for personal computers
[04:52] <ovhan> they belong in the office/school and thats it
[04:53] <nac-godfather> of course, that's what I'm doing right now.
[04:54] <nac-godfather> what's the difference between a sata/ide hdd and a usb besides the interface?  nothing.
[04:54] <pnorman_> It's just if you touch the PCB, knock the drive, spill something on it, it'll screw it up, and you'll lose data
[04:55] <nac-godfather> two cords instead of one.  It's probably safer to drop your hdd than those cheaply made and insanely expensive external hdds
[04:55] <ovhan> nac-godfather: i agree
[04:55] <pnorman_> nac-godfather: it's safer to drop the external one, since it's an internal + a case.
[04:55] <ovhan> i hate those
[04:56] <ovhan> pnorman
[04:56] <ovhan> ive dropped hdd's in the past and they worked
[04:56] <ovhan> i got a 1tb external hdd from seagate
[04:56] <ovhan> thing sucks big  hairy ones
[04:56] <ovhan> dropped it once and lost everything
[04:56] <ovhan> Q_Q
[04:56] <ovhan> wasnt even that big a fall , onto carpet i might add
[04:57] <ovhan> i read reviews and multiple people hav esimilar issues with it >.>
[04:57] <nac-godfather> I'm actually surprised, I had a mint install (11 amd64) brick two of my internal hdd recently.  The installer quit during the write of the bootloader, so I couldn't repartition or anything (wasn't recognized by any disk utility software).  I was pissed.
[04:57] <somsip> ovhan: I know it's quiet in here right now, but it is a support channel rather than a chat channel. Feel free to take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:57] <zaltekk> nac-godfather: you can just recreate anything that was messed up
[04:58] <zaltekk> there is no such thing as a "bricked" harddrive
[04:58] <nac-godfather> so instead of a 350 sata ii drive, I'm now working with a 30GB ide.
[04:58] <ovhan> sry som
[04:58] <nac-godfather> yeah, i used to think so too, but these were.
[04:58] <zaltekk> you're wrong
[04:58] <nac-godfather> not even win98 cd could restore the mbr.
[04:58] <skilz> ovhan, no, just fluxbox
[04:59] <skilz> ovhan, whats the url?
[04:59] <ovhan> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/how-to-install-java-7-on-ubuntu-1110.html
[04:59] <ovhan> you can try it i guess
[05:00] <nac-godfather> It was funny, one of my old bosses, didn't know about gparted and there was a mega pile of hdd's the department was tossing, because the manager didn't know what a bootloader was.  So I just rewrote the partition tables and reformatted and restored the bootloaders and got like 30 bucks a piece for each drive.  It was a nice weekend.
[05:00] <skilz> I installed 6 and updated alternatives and disabled icedtea plugin in firefox now it not even picking up java installed on the system...
[05:00] <zaltekk> "restored the bootloaders?" lol..
[05:01] <nac-godfather> install regular java (google on amd64 if you have to).
[05:01] <skilz> When I say '6' I mean 'sun-java6-jre'.
[05:01] <zaltekk> skilz: did you log out and back in to get your paths updated?
[05:01] <SlayersZ> how big were the drivs?
[05:01] <skilz> nope
[05:01] <nac-godfather> it's not that hard to symlink the plugins to firefox
[05:01] <zaltekk> that's why it isn't found.
[05:01] <skilz> zaltekk, perhaps I should try that
[05:02] <skilz> nac-godfather, how do I do it?
[05:02] <skilz> one moment please
[05:02] <nac-godfather> hold on
[05:02] <zaltekk> skilz: log out and back in
[05:02] <zaltekk> then try again
[05:02] <skilz> ok
[05:02] <dreadyc> looking for help diagnosing faulty hardware that keeps crashing my sytem
[05:02] <nac-godfather> Let me see if I can find the tut I followed this last time.  COuldn't get java to work at all forever.
[05:02] <nocturnal_> if i am running x without a window manager can i resize a window?
[05:02] <mouse> I just installed a nvidia gtx 560 card I'm trying to install the proper driver.  The driver needs x to close before it can install but when I do /etc/init.d/gdm stop the screen stays black and I don't see any login prompts.  Can anyone help?
[05:02] <zaltekk> nocturnal_: you do have a window manager. it's probably just twm
[05:03] <somsip> nocturnal_: you are in x with no WM? How did you maange that?
[05:03] <ovhan> how do i shutdown my ubuntu 11.10 server, i tried shutdown -P and shutdown -p 1
[05:03] <ovhan> oh
[05:03] <somsip> ovhan: sudo shutdown -h now
[05:03] <ovhan> oj nvm
[05:03] <ovhan> oh*
[05:03] <nocturnal_> zaltekk: then how can i resize?
[05:04] <skilz> Still doesnt work
[05:04] <ovhan> somesip i think i got it
[05:04] <somsip> nocturnal_: in TVM don't you click in the top left and get a dropdown that's resize, then the mouse turns into a crosshair?
[05:04] <ovhan> i did shutdown 1 -P
[05:04] <ovhan> and it looks like its working ....
[05:04] <zaltekk> somsip: something like that
[05:04] <skilz> zaltekk, * 2            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java is selected but when I load the page it doesnt think java is installed
[05:05] <dreadyc> shutdown ubuntu 11.10> sudo reboot -p
[05:05] <nocturnal_> somsip: no i have no window borders, just a terminal where i can run commands and it will open in a window
[05:05] <somsip> nocturnal_: the terminal is full screen?
[05:05] <ovhan> somsip:  k the 1 -P params worked , ty tho
[05:05] <ovhan> good night all
[05:06] <ovhan> im done with this for now =)
[05:06] <dreadyc> looking for help diagnosing faulty hardware that keeps crashing my sytem	
[05:06] <pnorman_> dreadyc: Is it repeatable?
[05:06] <nocturnal_> somsip: no its a tiny terminal in the top left corner
[05:06] <nocturnal_> and my cursor looks like an X
[05:06] <somsip> nocturnal_: then it's in a window, so you must have a wm
[05:07] <nac-godfather> well before, I fixed the issue by replacing all the symlinks to the java plugin with actual copies of the files.  Downloaded java package, installed in opt, then symlinked libjavaplugin_jni.so and the other libnpjp2.so to the proper plugins directory (identify with dpkg -L firefox).
[05:07] <ovhan> dreadyc try #hardware ?
[05:07] <nocturnal_> somsip: well i cant move the terminal
[05:07] <somsip> nocturnal_: cat ~/.xinitrc
[05:07] <djdduty_> on ubuntu server, how do I run and configure my lampp server?
[05:07] <ovhan> they can probably help more
[05:07] <djdduty_> =/
[05:07] <djdduty_> <total nub
[05:07] <nac-godfather> this time, I installed aurora and corrected the plugin directory items.
[05:07] <pnorman_> dreadyc: try the files in /var/log. it's hard to say any more without information
[05:07] <somsip> djdduty_: that is a very big question. what specifically?
[05:07] <coolstar> I have this plan for new software for ubuntu that will reduce the barriers from switching from win/mac to linux
[05:08] <djdduty_> like, the aopache web server
[05:08] <coolstar> who wants to hear it?
[05:08] <vicky__> Hi guys., I want to change my login screen to slim in ubuntu 10.04.But after installing it hangs at plymouth? I reconfigured gdm ans set slim as default but the same exists.Any ideas?
[05:08] <somsip> djdduty_: still a big question
[05:08] <coolstar> its not like wine, but more specific
[05:08] <djdduty_> =/
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: go on
[05:08] <djdduty_> how do I run the server?
[05:08] <coolstar> it will be an open source implementation of adobe shockwave
[05:08] <nac-godfather> so no emulation layer, no porting?
[05:08] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: in one line
[05:08] <somsip> djdduty_: sudo service apache2 start
[05:08] <coolstar> no emulation
[05:09] <coolstar> it will use opengl, gtk, gdk, and gstreamer
[05:09] <djdduty_> somsip then how do I get to the configuration options?
[05:09] <nocturnal_> somsip: it says no file
[05:09] <nac-godfather> so what, your just going to recode the closed software in java or another friendly languaga?
[05:09] <somsip> djdduty_: cd /etc/apache2 and they're in there
[05:09] <coolstar> i'm coding it in C++
[05:09] <coolstar> without any code from adobe
[05:10] <nac-godfather> anyone know how to setup password protected files with apache2?
[05:10] <djdduty_> I don't know the directories it installed in >_<
[05:10] <djdduty_> it has no gui...
[05:10] <nac-godfather> I've been trying to edit htaccess, but that isn't working for me, for some reason...
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: in short how would this help?
[05:10] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: shockwave is not available for linux
[05:11] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: and many linux users want to be able to play shockwave games (a lot of 3d online games are shockwave)
[05:11] <nac-godfather> what r u coding coolstar?  clone's of software?  or some type of emulation layer/whatever?
[05:11] <zaltekk> is this a troll or an idiot?
[05:11] <coolstar> clone. just like linux is a clone of unix
[05:11] <somsip> nocturnal_: what does right click do
[05:12] <Lasivian> what's a good .stl viewer or editor for ubuntu?
[05:12] <Lasivian> or hell, a bad one even, right now I got nothing :S thanks
[05:12] <nocturnal_> somsip: nothing
[05:12] <ovhan> zaltekk
[05:12] <ovhan> who ?
[05:12] <nac-godfather> no, just don't understand what you mean by break the barrier between os x windows and liux
[05:12] <zaltekk> is it not obvious?
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: but really how about this adobe shockwave only developers just drop it, google already kinda does this - they are pushing for native code(in a conainer) for chrome
[05:12] <ovhan> oh u mean him ya i dunno
[05:12] <ovhan> over zealous geek possibly?
[05:13] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: if you look at miniclip.com (a gaming site I use a lot), there's a lot of shockwave games on there
[05:13] <somsip> djdduty_: you may have to start with a basic tutorial on setting up LAMP http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/ubuntu-10.04-lucid
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: i don't see shockwave games as a turning point for OS switches
[05:13] <zaltekk> obv. doesn't know what he is talking about
[05:13] <somsip> nocturnal_: how did you install ubuntu and what version
[05:13] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I hate booting into windows to play shockwave games, and wine can't install the latest version
[05:13] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: even then, people won't open a windows browser just to play a shockwave game.
[05:14] <nac-godfather> yeah, you could have said, hey I'm working on a directx type solution to linux, and end the gaming monopoly ms has on that industry.
[05:14] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: dude what could they not do with html5/javascript and flash that they can with shockwave?
[05:14] <tMH> ppl, how can I convert "01.11.2011 6:12" data/time to unix time and back?
[05:14] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: hardware accellerated 3d graphics
[05:14] <tMH> using 'date' utility
[05:14] <nac-godfather> i don't think gamers who use windows still, actually care about flash games, or shockwave, they use windows, because they're real games that use real gpus'
[05:15] <fearlesspancakes> coolstar: sounds cool, I say go for it.
[05:15] <nocturnal_> somsip: ubuntu server 10.11
[05:15] <coolstar> I'm already starting to code it. It will be called OpenSWave. if you can think of a better name, go ahead and tell me. I'll be glad to listen.
[05:15] <ovhan> zaltekk:  thbis reminds me of a post i read on a minecraft forum once , , where somone suggested they add a place where they can type something like "create tank" and it suddenly pops up ,
[05:15] <nac-godfather> I'm all for it though, if I could run my games on linux and get the same fps, then I wouldn't touch another ms os again.
[05:16] <fearlesspancakes> nac-godfather: I hear ya
[05:16] <coolstar> Does the GPL licence sound okay?
[05:16] <coolstar> or should I go for LGPL?
[05:16] <rabbi1> how to install a D-LINK Wireless NIC on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[05:16] <somsip> nocturnal_: either 10.10 or 11.10. Which one? And does it go to the screen you describe immediately on login or anything else first?
[05:16] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: heh, a small niche but if you've got time go ahead; but i expect eventually this will be much more than a one man project - as soon as adobe changes you have to react
[05:17] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: the kernel should automatically detect and use it, as long as you plug it in the pci slot
[05:17] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: that's the whole point of open source. the whole community can help :)
[05:17] <skilz> Hey I installed sun-java6-plugin and loggout out and in but I can't see it in the firefox plugins options nor can I use java
[05:17] <mouse> How do I get to runlevel 3?
[05:17] <ben__> init 3
[05:17] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: it's done, i set up the network config also under wireless tab, restarting now.... brb :)
[05:17] <mouse> At boot I mean.
[05:18] <nocturnal_> somsip: i installed the bare minimum, it doesn't have gnome or kde or anything just a tty on startup
[05:18] <somsip> nocturnal_: so you get a full screen console at boot, you ahve to enter a user and pass. What happens then?
[05:18] <nac-godfather> skilz, use dpkg -L firefox and see where your firefox version is installing those two symlinks I mentioned.
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: this is big though, the opensource flash version doesn't seem to be doing well, i'm not even sure gnash is around anymore
[05:18] <nac-godfather> usually in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[05:18] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: it's not detecting :(
[05:19] <ben__> i would say just type in 3 when it asks the run level.
[05:19] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: when you type 'lspci' do you see it listed?
[05:19] <nocturnal_> somsip: then i login and i can type commands, so i type startx or xinit and i get a screen with a tiny terminal that i can start a browser in and click and stuff
[05:20] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I think they abandoned it cuz flash is available for linux from adobe
[05:20] <nac-godfather> but some version have different sections.  Go to java website, download jre or jdk, find libjpnp2.so and libjavaplugin_jni.so and use "sudo ln -s /<source_directory/libjavaplugin.jni /<target_directory/libjavaplugin.jni" etc.  You get it?
[05:20] <somsip> nocturnal_: so you startx?
[05:20] <nocturnal_> somsip: yeah
[05:20] <ben__> does anyone know anything about imac27 sound cards working with ubuntu?
[05:21] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: nope, its not
[05:21] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: is it a pci card or usb stick or...?
[05:21] <rabbi1> PCI
[05:21] <AD80HD> which version ben?
[05:21] <somsip> nocturnal_: so what is your actual issue? You want to use a wm?
[05:21] <AD80HD> of ubuntu
[05:22] <ben__> 11.10.
[05:22] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: hrmm, what model card?
[05:22] <rabbi1> DWA 525
[05:22] <nac-godfather> the chipset is all that matters, see if you can find out what it is.
[05:22] <nocturnal_> somsip: no when i start a browser, the window is really small now and i cant see anything so i need it to open bigger
[05:23] <AD80HD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[05:23] <coolstar> I'll have only one thing to say about the open source shockwave port i'm making
[05:23] <somsip> nocturnal_: so install a wm...
[05:23] <nocturnal_> somsip: isn't there a command to just start it with a certain resolution?
[05:23] <coolstar> Since my hardware only supports 32 BIT, I can't test on 64 bit. however, if anyone wants to test, you can compile the source code
[05:24] <nac-godfather> I'll test it, is it a firefox plugin, or some type of gui?
[05:24] <ben__> i've already tried that. force restarted alsa and everything. it still puts sound through the internal analog card.
[05:24] <somsip> nocturnal_: you want X to open a browser window at startup that has a set geometry?
[05:24] <coolstar> nac-godfather: It is a plugin for almost any browser that supports plugins (firefox, chrome, webkit-gtk, etc.)
[05:24] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: DWA 525
[05:24] <nocturnal_> not on startup, i want say chromium-browser to open at a certain size
[05:25] <Random832> i'm pretty sure that the browser plugin interface was standardized by netscape way back in the day
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: heh this'll be difficult with you not being able to review minute by minute changes; how close is this to being functional?
[05:25] <nac-godfather> create a simple bash script nocturnal_
[05:25] <Random832> and that all browsers do the same thing
[05:25] <nocturnal_> nac-godfather: i don't know the command to open it at that size
[05:25] <nac-godfather> I'm sure you can pass dimensions with the terminal, no?
[05:25] <ben__> i'm in a unix class now and the teacher knew nothing about sound cards lol.
[05:25] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I'm starting to code. It will be ready soon, but i can't give you any ETA's though
[05:26] <somsip> nocturnal_: http://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/
[05:26] <nocturnal_> nac-godfather: that's what i thought but my browser window is too small to look
[05:26] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: It will depend on how many people join in, and how much people contribute.
[05:26] <nocturnal_> somsip: no browser, that's what i'm trying to resize so i can see
[05:26] <somsip> nocturnal_: so drop to cli and use links2
[05:26] <nac-godfather> no file browser or web?
[05:27] <somsip> *links
[05:27] <nocturnal_> nac-godfather: neither
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: start a git or svn
[05:27] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: which do you think is better?
[05:28] <coolstar> I could use github, or google code (svn)
[05:28] <somsip> nocturnal_: the thing is, when you do that, the text sizxe will still re reltive to the X display. So maybe go full screen and use the zoom functions to make the screen bigger? If chromium does that. Or install a simple WM
[05:28] <nac-godfather> pretty much the same, but i like svn - but I don't know which is newer
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> coolstar: i've never personally used them, i would say use whatever is the easiest to set up to save time
[05:28] <nac-godfather> there's hg/mercurial too
[05:28] <coolstar> aeon-ltd: I think i'll use google code, since I like it better
[05:29] <somsip> nocturnal_: does F11 do anything?
[05:29] <nac-godfather> You probably wouldn't find as many open-source coders looking to contribute w/ google-code, but I could be wrong.  Just seems the norm to use svn or git in linux
[05:29] <somsip> nocturnal_: in chromium
[05:29] <DjMadness> Xase: no problem
[05:30] <coolstar> nac-godfather: google code is svn
[05:30] <nocturnal_> somsip: no
[05:30] <nac-godfather> they typically already have the tools needed to commit their changes n' stuff ya know
[05:30] <nac-godfather> ah my bad then
[05:30] <SlayersZ> is open source really a good thing through
[05:30] <mrpink57> of course it is
[05:30] <coolstar> SlayersZ: for these type of projects, yes
[05:31] <somsip> nocturnal_: install a wm
[05:31] <coolstar> SlayersZ: it is too much work for one person to track adobe's changes per version
[05:31] <ben__> could anyone help with imac27 ubuntu 11.10 sound card configuration?
[05:31] <godofmischief> with 11.10 how can i add my user to vboxusers group?
[05:32] <nocturnal_> somsip: how can i install something extremely light and only used when i startx or xinit
[05:32] <SlayersZ> same here.  I alwyas have troubles with ubuntu
[05:32] <SlayersZ> always something wrong
[05:33] <somsip> nocturnal_: when at a very early testiong stage with X, I have used twm to get the basic functins
[05:33] <mrpink57> godofmischief: gpasswd -a USERNAME vboxusers
[05:33] <SlayersZ> my problem is that both my video card are on with ubuntu and thus destorys batterly life
[05:33] <SlayersZ> at least wireless works xD
[05:34] <ben__> my problem is my sound card only plays analog. sounds like it's coming from a set of headphones at high volume.
[05:34] <coolstar> ben__: same here
[05:34] <ben__> i'm in a unix class and i can't even figure it out.
[05:34] <godofmischief> im running 11.10 host, xp guest, i need to add my host machine linux user to the vboxuser group to have access to the usb drives via my xp guest machine
[05:35] <ben__> and i have a box at the bottom right of my screen saying "amd unsupported hardware" and it points to the monitor lolol.
[05:35] <mrpink57> godofmischief: gpasswd -a USERNAME vboxusers did this not do it via cli?
[05:35] <fearlesspancakes> rabbi1: try this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799715&highlight=DWA-525&page=1
[05:35] <coolstar> does anyone have any other names to suggest for an open source shockwave player? I'm thinking of OpenSWave. I'd be happy to hear of more names
[05:36] <coolstar> I'm gonna create the svn repo on google code, so I want to know what to name it
[05:37] <SlayersZ> icecube
[05:37] <coolstar> SlayersZ: sounds good. I'll consider it
[05:39] <rabbi1> fearlesspancakes: thank you, checking out
[05:39] <coolstar> I found out google code has git, and svn. So we're good on those.
[05:39] <godofmischief> mrpink57, indeed, thanks very much that worked
[05:39] <mrpink57> !next
[05:41] <djdduty_> anyone direct me to a centos channel?
[05:41] <tensorpudding> have you tried #centos?
[05:42] <tensorpudding> i don't know if that's actually there, but it'd be logical to check
[05:42] <mrpink57> thats the channel #centos
[05:42] <mrpink57> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8
[05:42] <nocturnal_> somsip: i just used javascript to open a new window in the browser a certain size and that stuck
[05:42] <somsip> nocturnal_: clever idea that
[05:43] <randen> i am so confused about how the filesystem works for my mounted drives
[05:43] <ben__> what is your question?
[05:43] <nocturnal_> somsip: thanks for the help though. much appreciated
[05:43] <somsip> nocturnal_: np
[05:43] <root_> 1
[05:44] <randen> for some reason i cant change owner:group of my mounted drives, even if im root
[05:44] <randen> why is that?
[05:46] <mrpink57> randen: can I assume you are using chown?
[05:46] <randen> you can
[05:46] <mazda01> anyone know an easy way to show transfer speed of file transfer within gnome-terminal?
[05:46] <Folklore> im getting error in ssh
[05:46] <Folklore> says not in gzip format
[05:46] <Folklore> but the file ends in .tar.gz
[05:46] <Folklore> this for ubuntu
[05:46] <Folklore> when I try to use tar
[05:46] <ben__> alright. got my sound working.
[05:47] <randen> Folklore: just b/c a file has a .gz doesnt necesarily mean it is a gzip file
[05:47] <Folklore> so how I extract it then
[05:48] <randen> maybe its just tarballed only? try removing the .gz extension
[05:48] <randen> then untar
[05:50] <Folklore> I tried that didn't help
[05:50] <Folklore> don't get how that would help anyway cause linux doesnt care about file extensions
[05:50] <mrpink57> randen: have you tried for chgrp?
[05:50] <Folklore> http://www.psybnc.info/download/psyBNC-2.3.2-7-auto.tar.gz
[05:50] <Folklore> thats the link
[05:51] <mrpink57> randen: chgrp -Rv usergroup somedir
[05:52] <randen> Folklore: try file -f filename.tar.gz
[05:52] <randen> it should tell you if it is actually gzipped
[05:53] <Folklore> oh lol
[05:53] <Folklore> it's a file filled with error script
[05:53] <Folklore> html and php looks like
[05:53] <Folklore> guess it doesn't exist
[05:53] <Folklore> thanks randen
[05:54] <randen> mrpink57, it appears to be changing the group
[05:54] <mrpink57> hooray
[05:54] <vijvij> HI how do I resolve this. GLIBC_2.11 not found
[05:54] <randen> so why cant i change owners?
[05:55] <mrpink57> randen: I'm not exactly sure but I would just chmod it
[05:56] <randen> mrpink57, so it says that it changed the group, but when i do ls -l it didnt
[05:56] <randen> still the old group
[05:56] <dr_willis> randen:  what fs is this
[05:56] <soreau> vijvij: What is giving you that message?
[05:56] <randen> dr_willis, ntfs
[05:56] <mrpink57> that might be why
[05:56] <randen> i dual boot with windows 7
[05:56] <dr_willis> randen:  you dont chown or chmod on ntfs or vfta
[05:57] <vijvij> soreau : I built firefox in lucid. I am running it in hardy. ./firefox is giving me that saying libxul.so requires that
[05:57] <dr_willis> vfat
[05:57] <randen> so it is impossible to view these drives with other users?
[05:57] <soreau> vijvij: You probably should rebuild it in the new environment
[05:57] <OlaRune> vijvij: try apt-get install libc6
[05:57] <dr_willis> you use rhe proper mount options for ntfs3g
[05:58] <randen> ubuntu just auto mounted them
[05:58] <vijvij> soreau : that is the constraint I am working with. OlaRune : let me try that thatnks.
[05:58] <soreau> vijvij: but actually, why would you not just use the latest version of ubuntu or the packaged version of ff in hardy?
[05:58] <ranjan> hi all, how to setup password for grub 2 in ubuntu
[05:58] <dr_willis> randen:  its doable. byt you dont use chown or chmod
[05:58] <mrpink57> randen: you need to make sure ntfs-config installed then mount specifically a user and group
[05:58] <vijvij> soreau : I am doing a little bit of firefox devlopment. I have changed a little bit of code
[05:58] <dr_willis> !ntfs3g
[05:58] <randen> cool thanks
[05:59] <mohammadtiti> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10. When trying to install it, surprisingly I saw that it didn't detect my Windows 7 HP SP1.what should i do to not harming my windows and having ubuntu?
[05:59] <vijvij> OlaRune, soreau : libc6 is already the newest version
[05:59] <soreau> vijvij: That's even more of a reason to build the code you're working on, in your working environment
[05:59] <OlaRune> mkay, now we know that at least :P
[06:00] <dr_willis> randen:  the umask. or fmask or dmask options i think are needed
[06:00] <dr_willis> i see this ntfs question about once a month :-)
[06:00] <vijvij> soreau : ok I will try that. Thanks.
[06:00] <soreau> vijvij: If you've built a package in lucid, the resulting binary is not likely to run on hardy even if you satisfy the dependencies
[06:00] <maum> what is the best dictionary on ubuntu?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !best
[06:01] <glitchd> so im running 10.04 still and am thinking about going to 11.10, im wondering if my existing burg install will transfer or will i have to reinstall it? and the same question again for all my other programs that are currently installed.
[06:01] <rumpel> maum, some use stardict, but they seem to have legal issues regarding their dictionaries...
[06:01] <dr_willis> !info burg
[06:01] <mohammadtiti> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10. When trying to install it, surprisingly I saw that it didn't detect my Windows 7 HP SP1.what should i do to not harming my windows and having ubuntu?
[06:01] <vijvij> soreau : ok.. I guess u are right.. let me try building it in hardy and check.. thanks..
[06:02] <glitchd> ubottu, so i would have to manually configure and install it then?
[06:02] <glitchd> wtf..
[06:02] <maum> rumpel: stardic is using japanise? chinese + english. I am from korea
[06:02] <glitchd> so im running 10.04 still and am thinking about going to 11.10, im wondering if my existing burg install will transfer or will i have to reinstall it? and the same question again for all my other programs that are currently installed.
[06:02] <dr_willis> !bot
[06:02] <rumpel> maum, yes
[06:02] <glitchd> nope not a bot.
[06:03] <dr_willis> glitchd:  burg is unofficial so we dont really know
[06:03] <dr_willis> glitchd:  ubotu is a bot....
[06:03] <glitchd> dr_willis, right i got that it was a bot after my initial respones to it..lol
[06:04] <glitchd> dr_willis, so if i do the upgrade and not reinstall to get 11.10, will burg even still be working, or do u think it will crash grub?
[06:04] <dr_willis> stuff in the repos should get updatedon a upgrade to a new release
[06:04] <soreau> vijvij: Since there is a two year lapse between the two versions, you probably need to build the ff code from hardy as well. I'd be surprised if the lucid ff built in hardy with no problem
[06:04] <mrpink57> I do not think it will crash
[06:05] <glitchd> because i have seen tutorials about how to install burg in 11.10
[06:05] <dr_willis> glitchd: no idea. thw brug ppa will get disabled i imagine
[06:05] <mohammadtiti> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10. When trying to install it, surprisingly I saw that it didn't detect my Windows 7 HP SP1.what should i do to not harming my windows and having ubuntu?
[06:05] <glitchd> mrpink57, but will it still boot?
[06:05] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, i think u would have to put it in grub manually
[06:05] <mrpink57> glitchd: It should just fine since it just maps to the boot drive on your partition.
[06:05] <SlayersZ> how do you gys like unity?
[06:06] <glitchd> hate it.
[06:06] <mrpink57> things like syslinux, grub, grub2, and lilo all boot newer kernels just fine
[06:06] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  ive seen windows systems with 4 primary partions confuse the installer
[06:06] <Besogon> Hi I have no idea how to use "pastebinit" to paste into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> How can I do that, glitchd?
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> Aha
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> ok what should I do now?
[06:06] <Besogon> I get an error by the time cairo dock paste into pastebin well
[06:06] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, i dont know the exact specifics of how to do it but gimme a sec and im sure i can find some place telling how to do it.
[06:06] <mohammadtiti> I want both of them.
[06:06] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  you cant even do an install correct?
[06:07] <Besogon> Any suggestion?
[06:07] <dr_willis> #1thing to do.. is always make backups....
[06:07] <mohammadtiti> I didn't try that. since i'm somehow new to Linux world, I didn't take the risk of losing my stuff.
[06:08] <polardude1983> I am having problem opening up ted.jar a java program that can find episodes of any TV Show. Help would be appreciated. I do have sun java 6 runtime installed
[06:08] <dr_willis> make a windows rescue dvd set also for your install
[06:08] <mohammadtiti> I Just don't know how to manually partiotioning it to make it run with windows, Properly.
[06:08] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[06:08] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, it wont
[06:08] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, it has nothing to do with the partitioning
[06:08] <Besogon> polardude1983: Official java?
[06:09] <polardude1983> besogon, I believe so
[06:09] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  pastebin your sudo fdisk -l     output
[06:09] <mohammadtiti> ok. so the so-called grub doesn't detect the windows bootloader?
[06:09] <glitchd> polardude1983, whats the error?
[06:09] <polardude1983> glitchd, it doesn't open at all. i tried also opening it in the terminal and i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/764617/
[06:09] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, ok, but you are in ubuntu right now?
[06:10] <Besogon> polardude1983: Ubuntu repository don't provide official Java. You shoud add separate ppa to install it
[06:10] <Besogon> repositary
[06:10] <mohammadtiti> yes I'm in it, but with the live cd
[06:10] <dr_willis> !java
[06:10] <randen> dr_willis, so the NTFS config tool did the trick, but now al my drives are root:root
[06:10] <glitchd> polardude1983, so your trying to run this program "ted" from inside the live cd?
[06:10] <vicky__> slim ???
[06:11] <mohammadtiti> yes glitchd, i'm in ubuntu but by booting the live cd
[06:11] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, is there a reason u havent installed it?
[06:11] <dr_willis> randen:  dit fstab and make a ntfs3g entries with the options you need.
[06:11] <polardude1983> I tried to open the ted.exe in wine, and it says requires Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0. NO i am running ted.jar from an actual installation
[06:11] <glitchd> polardude1983, ok now im confused..
[06:12] <glitchd> polardude1983, your on a live cd trying to run a program thats installed on the actual hd?
[06:12] <mohammadtiti> yes glitchd. I afraid that after installing ubuntu, my windows doesn't boot
[06:12] <polardude1983> glitchd, no. I never said i was on a live cd :)
[06:12] <mrpink57> mohammadtiti: I would suggest doing a windows backup before anything.
[06:12] <Besogon> polardude1983: Ah... winetricks? may be
[06:12] <glitchd> polardude1983, lol sry man too many conversations
[06:12] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  make a restore dvd set for your hp. :-)
[06:12] <polardude1983> glitchd, lol its ok :)
[06:12] <dr_willis> just in case
[06:13] <rumpel> polardude1983, have you installed the windows-jre for wine?
[06:13] <glitchd> polardude1983, i would right click the file and check to make sure that its executable
[06:13] <polardude1983> I am trying to get the ted.jar to open, but it won't. So i thought i would try the windows version. but the windows version gave me the jre 1.5.0 needed. But i really want to try to get the ted.jar to open
[06:13] <randen> dr_willis, for some reason i have double the amount of entries, almost like symlinks to the drives (e.g. drive names & mount names)
[06:13] <dr_willis> here should be a natve ted app for linux.
[06:13] <polardude1983> glitchd, it is executable :) i checked
[06:14] <glitchd> polardude1983, hmm....whats the exact error it gives u?
[06:14] <polardude1983> dr_willis, There are more then one TED apps in linux. This one finds TV shows
[06:14] <dr_willis> randen:  extra fstab entries perhaps
[06:14] <polardude1983> glitchd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/764617/
[06:14] <randen> dr_willis, its ok to remove them?
[06:14] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, would u be interested in getting teamviewer?
[06:14] <dr_willis> randen:  chech fstab and see what it has.
[06:15] <randen> thats where im looking
[06:15] <dr_willis> !fstab
[06:15] <randen> /dev/sdc1	/media/Tiny	ntfs-3g	defaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[06:16] <randen> /dev/sdc1	/media/sdc1	ntfs-3g	defaults,users,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[06:16] <glitchd> polardude1983, i would suggest redownloading the program in  linux and trying it again. possibly one thats made for linux?
[06:16] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, pm me
[06:16] <randen> those are the same drive
[06:16] <polardude1983> glitchd, unfortunately the linux version is the ted.jar from www.ted.nu
[06:16] <polardude1983> boo jaava
[06:16] <dr_willis> comment out  one if you want.  #  the front.
[06:16] <glitchd> polardude1983,  so its the same version then, or older?
[06:17] <randen> k
[06:17] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, do u know if u have grub or grub2?
[06:17] <ztag100> hey, I'm helping my cousin setup WUBI... all his files are gna be safe right?
[06:17] <polardude1983> glitchd, when i download the linux version from ted.nu it is a zip file that contains ted.jar and other files
[06:18] <glitchd> polardude1983, ok so extract it and try to run the .jar file and see if it works
[06:19] <polardude1983> glitchd, nope does not work
[06:19] <glitchd> polardude1983, pm me
[06:20] <dr_willis> check the ted docs on  how it should be  ran?
[06:20] <dr_willis> it may have some script to launch it or extra options needed
[06:20] <dr_willis> java -jar foo.jar       also may work
[06:22] <polardude1983> dr_willis, yeah i did that which is what came up with what i have in the terminal which is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/764617/
[06:23] <mohammadtiti> no dlitchd
[06:23] <mohammadtiti> no glitchd
[06:23] <mohammadtiti> All i know is that I have ubuntu 11.10 right beside me
[06:23] <glitchd> what do u mean right beside u?
[06:24] <dr_willis> there are some forum  posts i see  on ted not working in 11.10
[06:24] <gagzilla> question: in USB startup (live) disk creator- does the reserved space get used by packages updated?
[06:25] <polardude1983> dr_willis, i still have 10.04 LTS :)
[06:25] <gagzilla> or phrased another way- question: what happens to the unreserved space in Live USB disk?
[06:25] <dr_willis> gagzilla:  yes. but ive found that doing a live cd + persistant save with a lot of updates can get unstable after a while
[06:26] <dr_willis> polardude1983:  check the other guides i saw then on setting ted up i guess.. there were a dozen on doing it in 10.04
[06:26] <mohammadtiti> guys can this link and its contents help me with this issue?
[06:26] <dr_willis> )
[06:26] <mohammadtiti> https://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[06:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:26] <polardude1983> k
[06:26] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  the installer is not seeing your hd?
[06:26] <gagzilla> dr_willis, thanks!
[06:27]  * gagzilla wishes there was a good way to get the latest Ubuntu in live form (without requiring update/upgrade)
[06:28] <dr_willis> gagzilla:  i set up grub2 to boot the iso file.. to update it.. i replece the iso..
[06:28] <gagzilla> dr_willis, so you just update the packages in the mounted iso?
[06:28] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis, the installed is seeing my hd, but not my windows partition. it doesn't detect that i have windows 7 HP SP1 preinstalled
[06:29] <dr_willis> the live cd+save file is good for light ussage. or i do a full install to flash drive
[06:29] <gagzilla> interesting. Perhaps I should give that a try.
[06:29] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:   clarify what 'not seeing it' means...
[06:29] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  cant access the data? grub not adding an entry for it?
[06:30] <pnorman_> Do you think it's possible for a software problem (including kernel and driver problems) to crash the system to the extent that the power and reset switches on the front of the computer fail to do anything?
[06:30] <Mr_Queue> pnorman_: doubtful.
[06:30] <Mr_Queue> pnorman_: probably a bad mb or your bios are shot.
[06:31] <Mr_Queue> blow up the power supply?
[06:31] <dr_willis> pnorman_:  very doubtfull.. mouse chewed the wires more likely..
[06:31] <OlaRune> if i have a lvm partition spanning three HDD:s, will the whole thing get corrupted if one disc fails?
[06:31] <pnorman_> Mr_Queue: It's either the SATA card, the SATA card bios, or the drivers. I'd like to rule out the drivers so I can focus on the hardware issues.
[06:31] <Mr_Queue> OlaRune: Yes, you need raid.
[06:31] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis my problem is:when trying to install ubuntu, it does detect my hd. But it doesn't detect my windows. in the installation procedure there come a window saying installing alongside windows or repartitioning the whole disk
[06:31] <Mr_Queue> pnorman_: start ripping stuff out.
[06:31] <OlaRune> okay, i was just wondering
[06:32] <OlaRune> i'm still going to use lvm though, since it's not that important data i will be keeping there
[06:32] <OlaRune> and the discs vary greatly in size
[06:32] <OlaRune> :
[06:32] <OlaRune> :>
[06:32] <mohammadtiti> that window doesn't come for me, instead it says: Delete the whole disk or manually partition it
[06:33] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:   if you have 4 primary partitions on the hd to begin with .. the installer will stop. it must be able to make more partitions... so... pastebin the output of  'sudo fdisk -l' for us to look at . to verify if this is the issue
[06:33] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis, i just booted the live dvd, I can access my windows data and its contents. But as I told u before i didn't dare installing it
[06:34] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis you mean I have to type that phrase in the terminal
[06:34]  * dr_willis waits for the pastebin output..
[06:34] <mohammadtiti> ?
[06:34] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:34] <mohammadtiti> what should I do? what is "pastebin"?
[06:34] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebin
[06:35] <Mr_Queue> !pastbin | mohammadtiti
[06:35] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit   (typo)
[06:35] <mohammadtiti> gotcha
[06:35] <Mr_Queue> !pastebin | mohammadtiti
[06:35] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:35] <pnorman_> Mr_Queue: I could easily fix it by removing the SATA card - the problem only occurs with in, and only when doing io to the drives connected to it. I'm just hoping to avoid debugging driver issues if it has to be a hardware issue
[06:36] <Mr_Queue> could be, sounds ful.
[06:36] <Mr_Queue> /ful/fun/
[06:37] <pnorman_> Mr_Queue: the crash leaves nothing in /var/log either, and it can take awhile at heavy IO to crash
[06:37] <dr_willis> its so nice these days how many new machines come with 4 primary partitions....
[06:37] <krokzak> hi folks
[06:39] <mohammadtiti> I'm on it
[06:39] <mohammadtiti> i just can't find the terminal window to open
[06:39] <mohammadtiti> I'm new in linux world
[06:39] <ztag100> Is WUBI a smart way to introduce my couson to Ubuntu?
[06:40] <dr_willis> ztag100:  most in here hate wubi
[06:40] <jonathon_> I can't play MP3's D:
[06:40] <ztag100> really?
[06:40] <yuvateja> how to connect LBP2900B printer in ubuntu 10.04?
[06:40] <jonathon_> VLC can, But clementine can't
[06:40] <ztag100> This is the first time he is using any linuc
[06:41] <dr_willis> ztag100:  vbox or a full install to a flash drive is what id do.
[06:41] <ztag100> I thought it was a good way to introduce him
[06:41] <ztag100> well
[06:41] <dr_willis> wubi is fragile.
[06:41] <ztag100> he is about to reboot for the first time
[06:41] <ztag100> If it doesnt run well... then I'll have him try out a live CD
[06:41] <ztag100> or USB
[06:41] <dr_willis> which is a nice way to say its unstable :-)
[06:42] <dr_willis> i do a full install to my 32gb flash drive
[06:42] <glitchd> mohammadtiti, press alt+F2 then type in terminal and it will bring it up for u to click
[06:42] <ztag100> well.. Its to late nowe
[06:42] <jonathon_> Anyone? D:
[06:43] <sdeobald> Apologies if this isn't the place to ask, but is there a straight-forward way to display battery percentage rather than time-remaining in oneiric?
[06:43] <krokzak> jonathon_ are you tried with totem ?
[06:43] <jonathon_> Idk what totem is
[06:44] <jonathon_> Ahh, Nope, Haven't tried it, Trying to use Clementine
[06:45] <dr_willis> sdeobald: ive seen alternative battery indicator applets as askubuntu.com
[06:45] <krokzak> the default player for movies and such, the point is he can download the codecs
[06:46] <krokzak> do it first with totem and then try wit Clementine
[06:46] <jonathon_> k, Totem is DLing, So one moment
[06:46] <sdeobald> dr_willis: Cheers, thanks.
[06:49] <jonathon_> Totem will load the MP3, But no sound
[06:50] <krokzak> dont you get a message for download the codecs ?
[06:50] <jonathon_> ** (totem:31972): WARNING **: Could not create element 'gconfaudiosink'
[06:50] <jonathon_> ** (totem:31972): WARNING **: Could not create element 'gconfvideosink'
[06:50] <jonathon_> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[06:50] <jonathon_> Cannot connect to server socket
[06:50] <jonathon_> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[06:50] <FloodBot1> jonathon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <jonathon_> No, No message came up
[06:51] <krokzak> never seen that kind of error
[06:51] <jonathon_> Figures :P
[06:51] <krokzak> open synaptics and make a search with mp3 codecs
[06:51] <jonathon_> Gstreamer error: "Failed to connect: Connection refused"
[06:51] <jonathon_> Also get that error
[06:52] <jonathon_> Synaptic didn't turn up anything useful
[06:53] <Sidewinder1> jonathon_, Did you download it through the repositories? Are you sure you downloaded the correct version for the version of ubuntu, that you are using?
[06:53] <krokzak> are you sure ? did you install the gstream ugly and bad ?
[06:54] <jonathon_> sidewinder1, Yea, through the repositories, and it is the correct version. krokzak, Yes I do have gstreamer installed
[06:54] <krokzak> all of them ?
[06:55] <jonathon_> I have the ugly, not the bad one though, installing it now
[06:55] <krokzak> are you google it about the clementine player ?
[06:55] <Sidewinder1> jonathon_, 'Twas just a thought; I've never seen error messages like that before. :-(
[06:57] <jonathon_> It has an IRC Channel, So I might go ask around there in a moment
[06:58] <Laibsch> I'm currently in an area with very poor connections to the outside world.  One of the two phone providers just went down.  The funny situation with the other one is that I can make a GPRS connection with both of my mobile phones but not with one of the Huawei 3G dongles. Explanations?
[06:58] <SlayersZ> that
[06:58] <SlayersZ> s coool
[07:00] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis u there?
[07:00] <Sidewinder1> !sound | jonathon_
[07:00] <mohammadtiti> I finally managed to do that
[07:01] <Soath> !fglrx
[07:01] <dr_willis> im in and out all day. m at my real job. :-)
[07:02] <dr_willis> gotta love android phones with irc clients
[07:02] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis i did what u told me
[07:02] <mohammadtiti> for the pastebinit thing
[07:03] <dr_willis> and the pastebin url is ?
[07:03] <Laibsch> mohammadtiti: what is that?
[07:03]  * Laibsch is pastebinit maintainer
[07:03] <mohammadtiti> the only url i found is this:
[07:03] <yuvateja> i add printer to my lap. but paper was not printing from printer
[07:04] <yuvateja> what can i do for printing paper?
[07:05] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit                should spit out a url we want to see..
[07:06] <mohammadtiti> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe pastebinit all
[07:06] <mohammadtiti> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/oneiric/universe pastebinit all
[07:06] <Sidewinder1> yuvateja,  Have you checked here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[07:06] <mohammadtiti> where can i find that url?
[07:07] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  ive no idea what you were doing with that.. all you needed to do from the live cd was run 2 commands..and pastw the url it gives  here
[07:08] <mohammadtiti> it doesn't give me any url
[07:08] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install pastebinit             for command 1. to install the pastebinit command.
[07:08] <dr_willis> then
[07:08] <mohammadtiti> i did what u told me
[07:08] <dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[07:08] <mohammadtiti> i did that
[07:08] <dr_willis> for the 2nd com mand.
[07:09] <dr_willis> or just copy/paste the fdisk  -l output by hand to the pastebin web site
[07:09] <Laibsch> dr_willis: I believe pastebinit is in universe, that's not enabled by default on the CD, right?  Maybe that's the issue mohammadtiti is having.
[07:10] <dr_willis> Laibsch:  ive seen others install it this way. no idea whats onwhat cd's these days
[07:10] <mohammadtiti> dear dr_willis u didn't tell me about the 2nd command
[07:10] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  i did..... ;) several times
[07:11] <mohammadtiti> anyway the url is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/764645
[07:11] <mohammadtiti> so i'm sorry i didn't see that 2nd command
[07:11] <mohammadtiti> sorry
[07:11] <Laibsch> OK, I'm out. See you later.
[07:12] <yuvateja> sidewinder: yes canon lbp2900b not in the list
[07:12] <dr_willis> mohammadtiti:  what brand compter is this that came with such a default layout ?
[07:12] <dr_willis> thats a hidious disk layout ;)
[07:13] <mohammadtiti> that's asus
[07:13] <dr_willis> this is a laptop or desktop?
[07:14] <ztag100> so far no trouble
[07:14] <mohammadtiti> according to my preferences i partition it that way. one more thing is that it has windows 7 preinstalled, a partition for the backup which is hidden and a partition which it says ERP
[07:14] <mohammadtiti> a laptop
[07:14] <dr_willis> you partioned it that way?
[07:16] <mohammadtiti> some of them. I told u. it has some partitions on it. a 100GB, a 350 GB, a 15GB (hidden, primary, backup drive for the windows)
[07:17] <Sidewinder1> yuvateja, LBP2900 is listed but not LBP2900b; hmm.. Well you might try here, it's for the LBP2900, but probably couldn't hurt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[07:17] <dr_willis> partition 3 contains the logicals sda5,6,7,8   - no idea why you need so many. but you could rezise/remove unneeded ones to make some unallocated space for linux to install to.
[07:18] <dr_willis> i would backup anything imporntant. and be sure to have a dvd restore set made.. just in case
[07:18] <mohammadtiti> ur looking for an unpartitioned space? I've already have one....it's about 30GBs
[07:19] <dr_willis> i see no unallocated space there.. but the numbers are all out or order.
[07:19] <mohammadtiti> let me check it out
[07:19] <polardude1983> now it opens with double click
[07:20] <ztag100> is skype in the default repositorys?
[07:20] <ztag100> so my friend can type in
[07:20] <ztag100> sudo apt-get install skype ?
[07:20] <prince_jammys> !skype
[07:20] <dr_willis> may be some between sda5 and sda6 ;)
[07:21] <prince_jammys> ztag100: that ^
[07:21] <dr_willis> i never use such a complex disk layout
[07:22] <dr_willis> if theres some unallocated space gparted should be ablr to make a ext4 partition there.
[07:22] <ztag100> hthanks
[07:23] <ztag100> I installed it using the USC, but his wont open right
[07:23] <ztag100> it stays at a white screen
[07:23] <dr_willis> run it from terminal, look for error messages ztag100
[07:26] <bolo56> guys.. i want to compile gnome 2.32. do you know where i can start ?
[07:26] <inashdeen> hi, how do i use lowratevoip on ekiga??
[07:27] <ztag100> alright
[07:27] <ztag100> I thik he wants to sleep
[07:27] <ztag100> I'm giving him support through facebook chat until he gets to skype
[07:28] <ztag100> we're gna continue tomorrow
[07:28] <ztag100> gnight
[07:28] <ztag100> I have school tomorrow
[07:28] <ztag100> and I have to do a presentation
[07:28] <ztag100> so
[07:28] <ztag100> pce
[07:28] <mohammadtiti> dr_willis u there?
[07:28] <FloodBot1> ztag100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <ztag100> Lol, no more flooding
[07:29] <ztag100> night night everybody
[07:29] <prince_jammys> adios
[07:29] <ztag100> exit
[07:29] <ztag100> pce
[07:34] <rijndael> i cant get my old Nvidia TNT2 card to work
[07:35] <rijndael> damn it!
[07:35] <share> is there any player capable of using both cores of a core2duo processor?
[07:35] <pnorman_> share: what kind of player?
[07:35] <share> like VLC player
[07:35] <mohammadtiti_> dr_willis u still there?
[07:35] <pnorman_> music, videos, or both?
[07:36] <share> pnorman_: videos
[07:36] <mrpink57> share: mplayer
[07:37] <share> pnorman_: Im playing a full HD video that kinda freezes in a scene where is a lot of detail. only 1 core uses 100% the other core only uses 20%
[07:37] <share> isnt strange?
[07:37] <share> cpu and gpu are set to Performance
[07:37] <eigar> Hi. Im running Ubuntu 11.10 and having some problems when i start X. The machine goes in deadlock. Have tried with all the desktops. (Ubuntu, Ubuntu 2D, Gnome, Gnome Classic and Gnome classic (no effects))
[07:38] <eigar> tty works fine
[07:38] <eigar> (here I am now)
[07:38] <eigar> How / where do i log so that I can track the problem?
[07:39] <eigar> Can i enable some verbose loging for ie Gnome Classic (no effects)?
[07:39] <pnorman_> share: most recent computers do decoding in hardware (i.e. on the video card). decoding on the CPU, as you've seen, can be fairly intensive
[07:39] <eigar> Thats the profile I usually use.
[07:40] <share> pnorman_: but I dont think the problem is the graphic cards
[07:40] <share> pnorman_: when 1 core reaches 100 the video freezes
[07:40] <share> 100%
[07:41] <eigar> The machine goes into deadlock after about 2 seconds. Desktop does not get to get fully loaded
[07:42] <andrew_46> share: Do you have an nvidia card?
[07:42] <share> yes
[07:42] <andrew_46> share: vdpau output shuld offload the load onto the graphics card
[07:43] <share> what
[07:43] <share> OO
[07:43] <pegler> hi all.  I just installed 11.10 on my macbook pro, but can't get an external monitor working fully.  I can get my cursor on the second screen, but the cursor is a X.  not quite sure how to search for a solution
[07:43] <share> andrew_46: what do you mean?
[07:43] <pnorman_> share: if it's using 100% CPU then it's not using the video card to decode. My desktop uses about 5-8% CPU to play a 1080p movie, it's all on the GPU
[07:43] <staff_nowa> hello, how normally test file system errors in ubuntu. Than i try fsck -F /dev/sda6 i get this WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[07:44] <pnorman_> staff_nowa: test or repair?
[07:44] <share> pnorman_: damn :|
[07:44] <staff_nowa> test, if have error try repair :)
[07:44] <staff_nowa> but if mounted get this errors
[07:44] <andrew_46> share: share A while back NVidia released some code which allows software o offload video processing load onto certain NVidia cards
[07:44] <share> pnorman_: i set both cores to the minimum and now video is always freezing
[07:45] <pnorman_> for repair, it has to be unmounted. i believe there's a way to tell fsck to do it on the next startup
[07:45] <share> not always
[07:45] <andrew_46> share: Under MPlayer, SMPlayer r UMPlayer this is set by utilising a -vo of vdpau
[07:45] <share> "o offload video processing load onto certain NVidia cards" english please :P
[07:45] <share> what is offload?
[07:45] <Sidewinder1> staff_nowa, Never run fsck on a mounted file system; instead, boot to livecd and run fsck on your HDD from there.
[07:45] <pnorman_> share: have the video card do it instead of the cpu.
[07:46] <share> pnorman_: shouldnt vlc player do it?
[07:47] <andrew_46> share: It makes your nvidia card work instead of your core2duo processors :)
[07:47] <pnorman_> share: either the CPU or the GPU has to do the work. The GPU is just far faster at it.
 an recovery console can do fsck check, in virtual pc i have ubuntu, and that run fsck in mounted hdd linux down to not working. And now i don't whant will be with normally system :)
[07:47] <share> ye
[07:47] <share> I always thought the GPU was doing the work -.-
[07:47] <pnorman_> not if your CPU is at 100%.
[07:47] <Sidewinder1> ?
[07:48] <share> pnorman_: it only reaches 100% in scenes with very high bitrate
[07:48] <r3v0> Is there a kubuntu room
[07:48] <share> #kubuntu
[07:48] <share> andrew_46: mplayer -vo file?
[07:49] <pnorman_> share: turning compressed video into pixels takes a lot of calculations. video cards do these calculations faster than CPUs
[07:50] <share> nice
[07:50] <share> andrew_46: I found this nano ~/.mplayer/config then add vo=vdpau
[07:50] <eigar> Where is the config for user auto load on Ubuntu 11.10? (Config of what get automatically run on login - desktop environment)
[07:51] <andrew_46> share: To check your available vo try: mplayer -vo help
[07:51] <eigar> no gui-app. Im on tty only.
[07:51] <share> andrew_46: it listed many stuff
[07:51] <andrew_46> share: or better: mplayer -vo help | grep -i vdpau
[07:51] <share> vdpauVDPAU with X11
[07:51] <share> whats this
[07:52] <share> does it mean it supports?
[07:52] <kimp> Have just installed Ubuntu 10.04.3.  Firefox is Version 3.6.  How do I upgrade it?  (Since it's provided by the package manager...?)
[07:53] <share> kimp: you have to use a PPA
[07:53] <share> if you want firefox 8.0
[07:53] <kimp> share: how do I do that?  apt-get install firefox
[07:53] <bolo56> is firefox 8 stable ?
[07:53] <bolo56> i heared to many problems with it
[07:54] <share> if it wasnt stable it wouldnt be released :P
[07:54] <share> bolo56: it uses less memory etc
[07:54] <share> new features
[07:54] <share> kimp: wait a sec
[07:55] <andrew_46> share: Not sure as my own computer has no nvidia card :). What happens with: mplayer -vo vdpau <file> ?
[07:56] <share> kimp: if you want firefox 8 type this in terminal:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[07:56] <share> then: sudo apt-get update
[07:56] <share> and then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:56] <share> andrew_46: let me try
[07:57] <kimp> share: do I need to do anything to remove V3.6 first?
[07:57] <share> no
[07:58] <share> andrew_46: I think it's doing the same
[07:58] <share> and still freezes when bitrate is high
[07:59] <share> "Your system is too SLOW to play this!"
[07:59] <andrew_46> share: computer or mplayer?
[07:59] <andrew_46> share: oic
[07:59] <share> andrew_46: it's still using the CPU a lot
[07:59] <share> so it's not using GPU?
[08:00] <andrew_46> share: Can you pastebin the mplayer output?
[08:01] <quixotedon> all: do you have any issue of not able to send email using Thunderbird on gmail client?
[08:03] <kimp> thanks share, seems to be proceeding nicely.  If I want Thunderbird, is is a similar process?
[08:03] <share> andrew_46: http://pastebin.com/kmzVRH70
[08:03] <bolo56> anyone in here compiled gnome ?
[08:09] <mrpink57> bolo56: I have not compiled gnome but I have compiled a few windows managers
[08:11] <andrew_46> share: One last try: mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau VIDEO.mkv
[08:11] <share> btw VLC has an option to use GPU
[08:11] <share> but it's using cpu too much
[08:12] <share> andrew_46: -vc doesnt exist
[08:13] <andrew_46> share: ffh264vdpau does not exist?
[08:14] <share> andrew_46: how can I fast forward the video
[08:15] <andrew_46> share: right arrow key will jump
[08:15] <share> maybe the GPU is weak?
[08:15] <share> but why would the player use 100% of cpu core
[08:15] <share> :P
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> hi
[08:16] <andrew_46> share: I am not sure what to suggest, there is a nice guide on he forums for building a newer version
[08:16] <share> andrew_46: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo#Table_of_PureVideo_.28HD.29_GPUs mine is GTS 250
[08:17] <share> it's not listed there
[08:17] <share> (thats for VLC)
[08:17] <andrew_46> share: perhaps you are in trouble then :(
[08:18] <share> andrew_46: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_250_us.html
[08:19] <pnorman_> I believe the GTS 250 supports H.264 decoding but the software side may not be there on linux.
[08:21] <share> :(
[08:22] <linuxcooldude> colloquy
[08:22] <andrew_46> share: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.18/README/supportedchips.html
[08:22] <share> it's listed
[08:23] <andrew_46> share: but check out the A and B sections
[08:23] <share> andrew_46: so, do I have to use the drivers from the website?
[08:24] <andrew_46> share: NVidia drivers are not my area I am afraid but someone here will know
[08:24] <pnorman_> andrew_46: A looks like it'd support H.264 which is the most common format for HD videos
[08:24] <maum> how can I install moonlight on firefox 8.0
[08:25] <somsip> maum: what version of ubuntu?
[08:25] <maum> 11.10
[08:25] <andrew_46> pnorman_: share's video is in fact h.264: http://pastebin.com/kmzVRH70 and the vdpau driver loads without error
[08:26] <maum> somsip, I couldn't install moonlight it's not compatible with firefox 8.0
[08:27] <somsip> maum: maybe you need to install Chromium and use that plugin. It still appears to be available
[08:27] <share> maum: #firefox
[08:28] <somsip> maum: or build from source. Could be fun... http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[08:28] <share> my Ubuntu is using nvidia driver version 260.19.06
[08:29] <share> website provides 290.10 Certified
[08:29] <share> o.o
[08:29] <antony_> Hello All, I have installed ubunutu 11.10 in my latop. Also installed lot of sotwares. Is there a way to take a image of that? like live cd ?
[08:29] <somsip> !backup | antony_
[08:29] <pnorman_> !sbackup
[08:30] <antony_> thanks .. i will try out
[08:30] <maum> somsip, ok I see
[08:31] <andrew_46> share: sorry I can't help with driver, no experience at all there :(
[08:32] <share> ah andrew_46 -vc <missing>
[08:32] <share> :P
[08:33] <share> andrew_46: it's slow
[08:34] <andrew_46> share: I presume you have this: sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 ?
[08:34] <share> yep
[08:35] <andrew_46> share: last idea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542240
[08:36]  * andrew_46 touts his own guide....
[08:37] <share> eh
[08:43] <share> andrew_46: Another common problem is the "adaptive clocking" PowerMizer capability of some NVidia cards: if this is active, frames will occasionally be dropped as the clock rate is adjusted. To switch to performance mode temporarily, use the nvidia-settings application in interactive mode to set "Preferred Mode" to "Prefer Maximum Performance" under each GPU's "PowerMizer" page.
[08:43] <hanasaki> anyone have a good defintion for this?  not much other than the name listed in searches /  Trojan.Agent-71068
[08:43] <share> then it says: NOTE: YOU MUST REBOOT YOUR SYSTEM AND HAVE POWERMIZER DISABLED, AS DESCRIBED BELOW, TO CORRECT ANY PROBLEMS CREATED BY RUNNING POWERMIZER.
[08:44] <Mr_Queue> hanasaki: huh? where did you get that?
[08:44] <hanasaki> in an email :(
[08:44] <hanasaki> clamav
[08:44] <hanasaki> found it
[08:44] <Mr_Queue> meh..
[08:44] <Mr_Queue> Forward it along... Nothing for you to be worry about.
[08:44] <hanasaki> eh?
[08:45] <ghostlines> is there a way for one to see for which packages a system restart is required?
[08:46] <hanasaki> Mr_Queue:  a bit more info please
[08:47] <Mr_Queue> hanasaki: On what?
[08:47] <Mr_Queue> It's a trojan getting passed through email..
[08:47] <hanasaki> Mr_Queue: Forward it along... Nothing for you to be worry about.
[08:47] <Mr_Queue> Yeah it's not a problem for your machine..
[08:49] <hanasaki> Mr_Queue:  right... just looking for a good definition of what it does.   web search didn't turn up anything
[08:56] <Mr_Queue> hanasaki: no idea... Really who cares? just dump it or forward it.
[08:56] <share> andrew_46: Too many video packets in the buffer: (233 in 33605256 bytes)
[08:56] <hanasaki> Mr_Queue:  lol want me to forward it to you?
[08:56] <andrew_46> share: Is this video available online somewhere?
[08:56] <Mr_Queue> Sure, won't hurt anything here...
[08:57] <hanasaki> because you are on linux?
[08:57] <Mr_Queue> Clamav really only needs to be run on mail servers which server windows clients.
[08:57] <nvidia> hello all. what`s the cmd to see on what date i`ve installed my linux ?
[08:57] <hanasaki> I run it with postfix,exim and clamfs
[08:57] <Mr_Queue> nvidia: A few...
[08:57] <Mr_Queue> Look for old files..
[08:58] <share> andrew_46: yes but not for free
[08:58] <nvidia> Mr_Queue what fliles?
[08:58] <share> if I could cut a sample from it
[08:59] <Mr_Queue> nvidia: stat /etc/resolve.conf
[08:59] <nvidia> ok
[09:00] <conntrack> hmmm
[09:01] <stinkfist__> there is an error while emptying the trash
[09:01] <stinkfist__> can anyone help me
[09:01] <andrew_46> share: dd if=yourfile of=smallfile bs=1024k count=5 might work
[09:01] <Mr_Queue> stinkfist__: do it by hand.
[09:01] <stinkfist__> what do u mean Mr_queue
[09:01] <Mr_Queue> stinkfist__: What's the error?
[09:01] <share> andrew_46: wait
[09:02] <stinkfist__> there was an error deleting "name of file" Failed to delete the item from the trash
[09:02] <stinkfist__> this is when i right click and press Delete permanently
[09:02] <stinkfist__> AND when i press empty trash
[09:03] <Mr_Queue> Well you can force it from the command line..
[09:03] <stinkfist__> will it damage anything?
[09:03] <mubarrak> test
[09:03] <Mr_Queue> stinkfist__: removing trash from the command line?
[09:03] <Mr_Queue> nope
[09:03] <stinkfist__> can i have the command?
[09:03] <stinkfist__> please
[09:03] <Datz> hi, is there a package that will tell you the strength of a password?
[09:04] <Mr_Queue> stinkfist__: find $HOME -type d -iname trash
[09:04] <Mr_Queue> Then go look at the results.
[09:04] <prashant_123456> when i start my computer and then my adsl router after my pc boots then i have no connection to internet i m using dhcp on my adsl router any solution ??
[09:04] <mutley89> Hi, all, probably should file a bug report for this, but Im not sure what the problem is or where to find out: On every second login starting firefox will cause X to crash and dumps me back at the login screen.  This happens with any window manager(I have kubuntu installed alongside the standard ubuntu install, as well as a few standalone window managers), I've only noticed it since yesterday when installing xmonad, ho
[09:04] <mutley89> wever it could have been happening before that, as I rarely log out.  It only hapens if I have kdm set as the login manager, if I use dpkg-reconfigure to switch to lightdm the problem stops.  I've looked in the /var/log/Xorg.log from the same time as when I triggered the crash, but there doesn't seem to be anything relevant.  Is there anything else that will help to find the problem?
[09:05] <Mr_Queue> prashant_123456: Assign the machine an IP and use it.
[09:05] <prashant_123456> Mr_Queue, i must use dhcp
[09:05] <stinkfist__> nope it didnt do anything Mr_queue
[09:05] <Mr_Queue> prashant_123456: no you must not.
[09:06] <prashant_123456> Mr_Queue, then whats the procedure
[09:06] <prashant_123456> Mr_
[09:06] <prashant_123456> Mr_Queue, my router configured on dhcp mode and internet continue on it
[09:07] <Mr_Queue> I get that.
[09:07] <stinkfist__> omg Mr_queue it worked
[09:07] <stinkfist__> :)
[09:07] <stinkfist__> thanks a lot
[09:07] <Mr_Queue> read the documentation for it and assign an IP to a mac address.
[09:07] <Mr_Queue> stinkfist__: No problem.
[09:07] <prashant_123456> Mr_Queue, actually my ip gets dns from the router
[09:08] <Mr_Queue> prashant_123456: They all do.
[09:08] <prashant_123456> Mr_Queue, where i get documentation
[09:08] <Mr_Queue> prashant_123456: I have no clue.
[09:08] <prashant_123456> Mr_Queue, thanks
[09:09] <Mr_Queue> prashant_123456: No problem...
[09:09] <gappie> hi. I am runnnig a shell script on system startup using cron jobs, but the script stops running after 20 seconds. Why is it stopping?
[09:11] <Mr_Queue> gappie: Is it your server?
[09:12] <Mr_Queue> pastebin the output of 'ulimit -a'
[09:12] <Mr_Queue> !pastebin | gappie
[09:14] <gappie> Mr_Queue yes it is my server
[09:15] <gappie> Mr_Queue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/764713/
[09:15] <gappie> the shell scriptis designed to do continues bluetooth scanning and log to csv file
[09:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> gappie what does your script look like
[09:16] <aaa_> i have a shortcut  with the command "/home/username/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe" (without the quotes). when i click it, i get Failed to execute child process "/home/username/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program" (No such file or directory). what can i do to fix it?
[09:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> aaa_ escapte the spaces
[09:17] <icejoywoo> space in the command, you can put a \ before space
[09:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^WHS
[09:17] <aaa_> thank you
[09:17] <enav> is there a way to issue a command and provide the sudo password inline?
[09:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> enav no
[09:17] <enav> i see
[09:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> [well yes but no really]
[09:18] <enav> i want to put a command at the startup manager to copy the mysql folder to my home folder on every restart
[09:18] <enav> datadir folder
[09:18] <gappie> Mr_Queue : any ideas?
[09:19] <Mr_Queue> gappie: That's clean..
[09:19] <RaTTuS|BIG> enav - use sudo and edit /etc/rc.local
[09:19] <mrpink57> enav: you would put the command in your /etc/rc.local to do it
[09:19] <Mr_Queue> What script is running and how have you called it to run on startup
[09:19] <Mr_Queue> ?
[09:19] <enav> i see
[09:20] <gappie> Mr_Queue : in "crontab -e" i have this line "@reboot /home/itsblue1/Desktop/blue.sh&"
[09:20] <Mr_Queue> gappie: Humm...
[09:20] <gappie> with the & it runs a bit longer
[09:21] <Mr_Queue> can you run it clean without cron?
[09:21] <gappie> up from 20 sec to almost 40 sec
[09:21] <gappie> Mr_Queue : yes works fine
[09:21] <Mr_Queue> So sounds like it's failing because something isn't up and running yet..
[09:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> gappie it's probably somehting dodgy in the script - env variables or something
[09:22] <gappie> when i check the logs in the .csv file there is data for that 20 seconds
[09:22] <Mr_Queue> Add the script to /etc/rc.local and prefix it with a sleep command to let the system come online.
[09:22] <gappie> so it is working completely for the 20 sec
[09:22] <conntrack> hmm, this is odd
[09:22] <quixotedon> bolo56: not so stable actually
[09:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> gappie - pipe the errors to a file
[09:22] <gappie> how do i see the errors?
[09:22] <conntrack> I can run wine applications with minimum permissions
[09:23] <satya> hello
[09:23] <conntrack> 600 for exe
[09:23] <gappie> i tried runnig it through rc.local but it does not strat up
[09:23] <satya> i need to enable anonymous access for a directory in vsftpd
[09:24] <satya> how to do that??
[09:24] <skumara> hi, can run 32bit game in 64bit ubuntu oneric?
[09:24] <icejoywoo> satya - look at the README
[09:24] <Mr_Queue> gappie: strace it
[09:25] <gappie> Mr_Queue : here is the shell script http://paste.ubuntu.com/764717/
[09:25] <Mr_Queue> gappie: It's running before the services it is using are up..
[09:25] <Mr_Queue> Make it sleep for 90 seconds or something.
[09:26] <gappie> Mr_Queue : but it is working as intended for the first 20 sec. i have the logs asproof. the data is written to the .csv file
[09:26] <gappie> Mr_Queue : how do i trace the shell script in ubuntu. have no idea
[09:26] <satya> icejoywoo, i did configuration for anon directives, but still asking for authentication, when i browse it
[09:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> gappie - put in lots of debug outputs that append to /tmp/err.err or something then you can check where it fails
[09:28] <andrew_46> share: MPlayer claims my system is too slow as well but the sample plays reasonably smoothly
[09:28] <Datz> hi, is there a package that will tell you the strength of a password?
[09:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> ~/Desktop may not be defined in the cron version
[09:28] <arthurdent> how do i mount something for read and write in ubuntu?
[09:28] <arthurdent> er sorry
[09:28] <arthurdent> in the live cd
[09:28] <andrew_46> share: on a very lowend intel chip, I am suprised an nvidia card has trouble with it
[09:28]  * RaTTuS|BIG goes for coffee
[09:30] <skumara> when I open a game i get this error in terminal QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme. What does it mean?
[09:30] <satya> i configured for anonymous users to access a specific directory, but when i browse it from browser, it is asking for authentication
 use cmd: sudo mount -t loop
[09:31] <killer_> hi
[09:31] <skilz> Hey im having trouble, Im trying to use sun-java6-jre to play minecraft on the website with firefox, but firefox doesnt reccognise that I have java installed
[09:31] <killer_> have u googled
[09:32] <skilz> I also have the sun-java6-plugin installed
[09:32] <skilz> yeah
[09:32] <skumara> killer_, are you chatting with me? google didn't help much and also the developers forum.
[09:32] <share> andrew_46: :\
[09:32] <gappie> Mr_Queue : at the moment i am accessing the server via ssh. when i log in i do not see the outputs to screen that the shell script gives you. will i see the outputs if i connect the server directly to a screen?
[09:33] <share> andrew_46: but does it freeze at 15 secs?
[09:33] <killer_> i was talkin with skilz
[09:33] <gappie> as which user does cron jobs run?
[09:33] <killer_> but what is the problem u r facing
[09:33] <andrew_46> share: yes with vlc but o with MPlayer
[09:33] <andrew_46> n
[09:33] <skumara> killer_, when I open a game i get this error in terminal QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme. What does it mean?
[09:34] <share> andrew_46: with mplayer you can play it perfectly??
[09:34] <andrew_46> share: the svn MPlayer
[09:34] <killer_> are you using some kind of theme skumara
[09:35] <share> andrew_46: did you notice a big difference?
[09:36] <andrew_46> share: MPlayer is always better but I am biased
[09:36] <conntrack> hehe
[09:36] <skumara> killer_, no. I just want to play this game crayon physic deluxe. Two days ago it was working. today give me error. on starting the game only blank screen comes up.
[09:39] <butti> good morning, may I ask for help to fix this error: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:39] <butti> 10.04 64bit
[09:39] <butti> I cant run anby application becouse of this error also i cant open any browser
[09:40] <ossama> hello
[09:40] <share> hi
[09:41] <SmokeyD> hey everyone. I have a luks/cryptsetup encrypted container file that I am trying to mount as loopdevice, so I can use cryptsetup to open it.
[09:41] <SmokeyD> When I run "sudo mount -o loop /media/data/encrypted_file /dev/loop1" I get an error "mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'"
[09:42] <SmokeyD> but the dm-crypt module is loaded
[09:42] <SmokeyD> and I am also successfully using a cryptoswap partition.
[09:42] <SmokeyD> so why does mount complain that the crypto_LUKS filesystem is unknown?
[09:42] <share> AntiSpamMeta: i've installed vdpau-va-driver. is it worth?
[09:43] <ossama> I have an ASUS X61SL laptop with Intel Core2Duo P8400 CPU and F50L motherboard and I cannot launch ubuntu unless I Use acpi=off and the OS doesn't recognize the battery or function keys , I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and updated it but nothing changed,what can i do ?
[09:43] <SmokeyD> could it be that the container file was created on an amd64 ubuntu lucid machine, while right now I am working on a x86 oneiric machine?
[09:44] <ossama> anyone??? I have an ASUS X61SL laptop with Intel Core2Duo P8400 CPU and F50L motherboard and I cannot launch ubuntu unless I Use acpi=off and the OS doesn't recognize the battery or function keys , I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and updated it but nothing changed,what can i do ?
[09:45] <conntrack> Should I be worried at any processes running as root or is that conspiracy related?
[09:45] <ossama> anybody home???
[09:45] <ossama> I have an ASUS X61SL laptop with Intel Core2Duo P8400 CPU and F50L motherboard and I cannot launch ubuntu unless I Use acpi=off and the OS doesn't recognize the battery or function keys , I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and updated it but nothing changed,what can i do ?
[09:45] <RaTTuS|BIG> conntrack ps axOT | pastbinit
[09:46] <RaTTuS|BIG> but stuff should run as root
[09:46] <RaTTuS|BIG> depending on what it is
[09:46] <conntrack> These are vendor processes
[09:48] <ossama> hello? I have an ASUS X61SL laptop with Intel Core2Duo P8400 CPU and F50L motherboard and I cannot launch ubuntu unless I Use acpi=off and the OS doesn't recognize the battery or function keys , I'm using ubuntu 11.10 and updated it but nothing changed,what can i do ?
[09:48] <conntrack> 'ps -aux | grep root' lists about 11
[09:49] <conntrack> Perhap it is just me that has the issue
[09:49] <conntrack> hohoho
[09:49] <SmokeyD> ossama, please be patient. Maybe this is the same problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/626622
[09:49] <ossama> thanks,SmokeyD,I will check it out
[09:50] <SmokeyD> conntrack, no there should be many processes running as root. They are kernel related for instance. But more might be there
[09:50] <conntrack> SmokeyD: And these processes are vital?
[09:51] <conntrack> SmokeyD: Why do they need to run as root exactly?
[09:51] <SmokeyD> conntrack, yes. The kernel is vital. It does all the work between the software and the hardware. No kernel, no operating system.
[09:52] <conntrack> SmokeyD: Which process are you talking about?
[09:52] <skilz> anyone know of a free minecraft like game?
[09:52] <butti> good morning, may I ask for help to fix this error: synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:53] <butti> I cant run anby application becouse of this error also i cant open any browser
[09:53] <SmokeyD> conntrack, the kernel for instance. and all related processes. The kernel is the core of the operating system. It handles everything from memory access, talking to hardware, talking to the processor, etc. It has different processes which handle that stuff. And all those processes need root privileges
[09:53] <SmokeyD> that is the way the operating system works. Any operating system for that matter
[09:53] <rzx237> skilz: freecraft maybe
[09:54] <SmokeyD> conntrack, if you really want to figure out what each and every process individually does, buy a good book on the way the kernel works, and the X.org server, and everything else for that matter
[09:54] <Anomie21> Anyone have any idea where Pidgin keeps it's logs?
[09:55] <rzx237> Anomie21:  ~/.purple/logs
[09:56] <Anomie21> rzx237: yeah I seen that one, can't find it though... There is no .puple folder in /
[09:56] <conntrack> SmokeyD: Right. OK so the processes in [] should be left alone
[09:56] <SmokeyD> conntrack, yes, most definately
[09:56] <rzx237> Anomie21: it is in your home folder
[09:57] <hobbel> How can I find out im using WICD instead of network manager? I have some problems with wireless and trying to fix it by using WICD
[09:57] <conntrack> SmokeyD: Watch about a listening connection? Is that OK to run as root?
[09:59] <SmokeyD> conntrack, sorry, I don't have time to go over all processes with you right now. But I think many processes running a network connection do as well, but I might be wrong there. There are also processes that start as root, but when the necessary stuff has been done, they drop their privileges to a different user
[09:59] <SmokeyD> but I suggest you research those applications to which the processes belong and ask them
[09:59] <conntrack> Right. Thanks for the help
[10:00] <SmokeyD> np
[10:00] <MuNk> ive got two routers 192.168.1.254 and 192.168.2.254 both with internet connections, how would i load-balance them in ubuntu?
[10:00] <conntrack> I'm pretty sure who owns those processes
[10:00] <conntrack> Oh he's gone
[10:02] <RaTTuS|BIG> MuNk - look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[10:02] <_et> I'm trying to make optical disks auto-mount when they're inserted, in a CLI only system.
[10:02] <_et> so far no luck. I realized that this can't be done with /etc/fstab
[10:03] <_et> any ideas?
[10:03] <gappie> is it fine to use an endless while loop in a shell script initiated by cron on startup?
[10:04] <_et> gappie: Don't think it's a good idea. What are you trying to achieve?
[10:04] <somsip> gappie: why would you want to do that?
[10:04] <Promethes> hi, i am unable to use network printer shared using cups - when i try to print i get message foomatic-rip failed. Printer works great locally and also under Windows XP and Win7 installed as a network printer. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[10:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> <_et look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[10:05] <_et> RaTTuS|BIG: Thanks a million. Will do.
[10:05] <gappie> the shell script logs data from bluetooth. it was designed to wait for user to enter "QUIT" and then exit. But since it is now running on startup withour user interference. It needs to run until the pc is shutdown
[10:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> gappie - not really - but if you make your script see if it is already running and exit if it is then that is a better way
[10:07] <satya> i configured for anonymous users to access a specific directory, but when i browse it from browser, it is asking for authentication
[10:09] <LK-> Hi, it seems nice limitations in /etc/security/limits.conf are not working correctly? I have set them, but they are not enforced as intended.
[10:12] <_et> RaTTuS|BIG: This seems to have something. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Editing_Ubuntu.27s_filesystem_table
[10:12] <_et> RaTTuS|BIG: will try that and see what happens. Thanks for the help. :)
[10:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> +1
[10:14] <MuNk> if i had two gateways 192.168.1.254 and 192.168.1.253 would there be a way to load-balance between them? gratned the ubuntu machine only has one ethernet port
[10:15] <conntrack> Wow to think that Julian Assange used to grace freenode
[10:16] <JosephRuby> I am having a problem installing ggmud if anyone can help. Downloaded GGMud-0.8.0-src.tar.gz from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ggmud/ extracted it.. did resolved dependancies, did 'make'.
[10:16] <JosephRuby> When I checkinstall I get the following error, make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[10:18] <deej1976> JosephRuby: Does it need ./configure ?
[10:19] <JosephRuby> deej1976: Ill find out, thank you for the input, linux noob here.
[10:19] <satya> i configured for anonymous users to access a specific directory, but when i browse it from browser, it is asking for authentication
[10:20] <JosephRuby> deej1976: it has a config.h file
[10:21] <JosephRuby> deej1976: but ./configure does nothing..
[10:21] <deej1976> JosephRuby: Is there a configure file in the directory?
[10:22] <JosephRuby> deej1976: no just config.h
[10:24] <eigar> Where is the settings for which desktop profile are choosen when saying startx?
[10:24] <deej1976> JosephRuby: Have you looked at gnome-mud ? it's avaliable in the repository
[10:24] <rumpe1> JosephRuby, There seems to be a .sh-file for installation
[10:24] <JosephRuby> rumpel:yes there is makeapp.sh
[10:25] <eigar> It starts unity, I want gnome-classic no effects
[10:25] <Wisnia> anyone knows what samba NT STATUS BAD NETWORK NAME
[10:25] <Wisnia> is
[10:25] <JosephRuby> deej1976: no I havn't looked at that I actually picked ggmud for crossplatform use so I can use it on all my machines.
[10:25] <garden92> can some someone help? i have 2 images ones the top half the others the bottom half and can i attach them back together to a single image?
[10:26] <garden92> i mean how do i.
[10:26] <rumpe1> JosephRuby, there doesn't seem to be a way to install it using package management. Looks a bit... unprofessional. (?)
[10:26] <JosephRuby> garden92: create a new file in gimp that has the deminsions of the two combined and copy paste one at a time.
[10:26] <JosephRuby> rumpel: I agree
[10:26] <deej1976> garden92: Create an new image in gimp equal to the size of both images combined and paste the two parts in.
[10:27] <garden92> thanks
[10:27] <JosephRuby> rumpel: what is the .sh file for?  noob here sorry.
[10:28] <pppurple> I have 4gigs RAM and just installed 32-bit ubuntu 11.10 and my system is only showing up 2.6 gigs of RAM. how can i get it to use all 4Gigs of RAM?
[10:28] <somsip> !pae | pppurple
[10:28] <eigar> I do not run lightdm; as when I do and log in desktop freezes and I have to reboot by power button
[10:28] <deej1976> pppurple: Either reinstall with 64-bit or enable pae
[10:29] <eigar> Seems like unity/Ubuntu 2D ..? require lightdm
[10:29] <pppurple> if you install the 64-bit will it over write the 32-bit?
[10:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> pppurple - 64bit instal is the better way IMO
[10:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> pppurple yes - though it should keep all your settings
[10:30] <eigar> one can startx without it but you'll get no menus, etc.
[10:30] <pppurple> RaTTuS|BIG, ok thanks. ill DL that
[10:31] <Randolph> hi all
[10:31] <eigar> you can run apps tho. Ctrl-Alt-T to get terminal and start apps from there
[10:31] <eigar> Alt-F2 does not work
[10:32] <eigar> But, then again, how do I change default desktop by moding textfiles
[10:32] <eigar> Not gui
[10:32] <eigar> ?
[10:33] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:33] <uabn93> Hey
[10:34] <pppurple> RaTTuS|BIG, to go to 64bit should just be an OS upgrade and should keep my programs as well correct?
[10:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> pppurple well - TBH backup your data and re-install whgat you use
[10:35] <pppurple> RaTTuS|BIG, just installed 32 yesterday so nothing to really back up
[10:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> easier in the long run - as you'll have to install 32bit suport for anything your already installed .... theyre may well be 64bit vversions
[10:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> kk
[10:35] <cristian_c> I have to change the manager of the numerical codes of the keys from default one to one provided by another application, in this case keytouch
[10:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> go for it ;-p
[10:35] <butti> godd morning.  may I ask for help in fixing this issue: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:36] <deej1976> butti: Did you copy the file from livecd?
[10:36] <eigar> Is it by gconf?
[10:37] <cristian_c> I was advised to check the keytouch configuration files
[10:37] <butti> deej1976: yes i did, but the error persist
[10:37] <Mr_Queue> butti: what are you installing?
[10:37] <butti> Mr_Queue: welll, i have missmatch in shared librarys with libstdc++
[10:38] <Mr_Queue> How'd you get in the pickle?
[10:38] <Mr_Queue> Have you run apt-get install
[10:38] <Mr_Queue> with no arguments to resolve conflicts?
[10:39] <cristian_c> I found the named keytouch  file in /etc/init.d whose content is as follows:
[10:39] <Mr_Queue> Did you add anything by hand?
[10:39] <Mr_Queue> Have you pinned anything?
[10:39] <garden92> JosephRuby: is there a guide that can help me?
[10:39] <butti> i have removed wrongly the lstdc++6
[10:39] <Mr_Queue> butti: Run apt-get install
[10:39] <Mr_Queue> no arguments.
[10:39] <cristian_c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/764778/
[10:40] <butti> Mr_Queue: apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:40] <butti> Mr_Queue: any application is runing
[10:40] <cristian_c> But there is no trace of udev :(
[10:40] <Mr_Queue> You broke it, what did you do lately?
[10:42] <deej1976> Mr_Queue: He deleted it :(
[10:42] <JosephRuby> garden92: its old but it should still work http://boitblog.blogspot.com/2007/07/blending-two-images-with-gimp.html
[10:42] <Mr_Queue> deej1976: butti Don't do that.
[10:43] <cristian_c> The other file I checked is called 55keytouchd_launch (which is located in /etc/X11/Xsession.d) whose content is as follows:
[10:43] <deej1976> Mr_Queue: His done that, yesterdayt, currently has a copy from livecd, but the it's not being picked up
[10:44] <geirha> butti: copy over /usr/lib/*/libstdc++* from a live session, then install the package
[10:44] <cristian_c> http://paste.ubuntu.com/764786/
[10:44] <butti> geirha: this i did already ...dosnt work
[10:45] <cristian_c> But I do not think it is very useful in this case
[10:45] <deej1976> butti: Do you have this file: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[10:45] <Mr_Queue> apt-cache search libstdc
[10:45] <geirha> butti: Make sure to run ''sudo ldconfig'' after the copy
[10:45] <butti> deej1976: no i dont
[10:45] <cristian_c> What should I do to bypass the management of numerical codes by udev?
[10:46] <butti> deej1976: i suposed that /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[10:46] <Mr_Queue> Chase it down and nail it in place with dpkg -i
[10:46] <butti> deej1976: that x86---* is not the folder for that or?
[10:47] <stephni> please i installed an application opened it the minimized but i can't find it but is running i can see the notifications pkease whee is it?
[10:47] <deej1976> butti: on my 11.04 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ is a folder, I'm just checking contents now
[10:47] <geirha> butti: The location of that lib depends on whether you're running 32-bit or 64-bit
[10:48] <Mr_Queue> stephni: Click the notification
[10:49] <Mr_Queue> In the bar, it just starts like that..
[10:49] <Mr_Queue> If not, find the PID and kill it..
[10:49] <stinkfist\> with fire
[10:49] <Mr_Queue> kill <PID>
[10:49] <Mr_Queue> then try again.
[10:49] <stinkfist\> with fire
[10:49] <butti> geirha: solved: dpkg -i libstdc++6_4.4.3-4ubuntu5_amd64.deb
[10:49] <butti> deej1976: dpkg -i libstdc++6_4.4.3-4ubuntu5_amd64.deb
[10:50] <butti> deej1976: that seems to solved my problem
[10:50] <Mr_Queue> butti: :D like I said.. nail it in place with dpkg -i
[10:50] <deej1976> cool
[10:50] <butti> Mr_Queue: wonderfull! thank you
[10:50] <butti> thanks all of you!
[10:50] <Mr_Queue> Anytime.
[10:51] <stephni> i want to click but it disappears
[10:51] <deej1976> butti: ldd /usr/bin/dpkg, yep doesn't use libstdc++.so.6 excellent
[10:51] <stephni> please help
[10:52] <Mr_Queue> stephni: We need better info to help.
[10:52] <butti> deej1976: thank you so much, i have still one little shared library problem....
[10:52] <MuNk> bonding only works if you have two physical connections right?
[10:52] <deej1976> butti: Which one
[10:52] <Mr_Queue> stephni: what are you trying to start?
[10:53] <stephni> facebook deskto ap aor air
[10:53] <stephni> facebook desktop app for adobe air
[10:53] <Mr_Queue> okay... try from the command line and paste the output of what happens..
[10:54] <butti> deej1976: this is when im trying to run one speccial applikation:
[10:54] <butti> deej1976: firestorm-bin: /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found (required by bin/do-not-directly-run-firestorm-bin)
[10:54] <Mr_Queue> You hosed something sometime ago and forgot about it.
[10:54] <butti> deej1976: firestorm-bin: /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found (required by /home/butti/SL/DarkStorm/lib/libllcommon.so)
[10:55] <JosephRuby> ok gonna ask again maybe someone else is awake now :-p
[10:55] <JosephRuby> I am having a problem installing ggmud if anyone can help. Downloaded GGMud-0.8.0-src.tar.gz from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ggmud/ extracted it.. did resolved dependancies, did 'make'.
[10:55] <Mr_Queue> You also installed the 64 bit deb and are calling the above on a 32 bit binary..
[10:55] <JosephRuby> When I checkinstall I get the following error, make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop. There is no configure file in the directory.
[10:55] <Mr_Queue> JosephRuby: Error is pretty clear.
[10:56] <Mr_Queue> 3 steps to compiling software.
[10:56] <Mr_Queue> configure; make; make install
[10:56] <boomscud> need help with  armitrage on ubuntu 11.10
[10:56] <butti> Mr_Queue: do you talk to mee?
[10:56] <Mr_Queue> butti: yer...
[10:57] <gappie> i have a shell script that continuesly logs bluetooth dat to a .csv file. It runs perfectly when started manually, but when started by cron on system boot it only logs data for 20-40 seconds and dies. I am using bluez-hcidump do continualy log to the csv file. Would cron or the system kill a continuesly running shell script?
[10:57] <ajin1> hi
[10:57] <JosephRuby> mr_queue I saw that in a few guides that I managed to google, but ./configure does nothing .. am I doing it wrong..
[10:57] <Mr_Queue> You installed a 64 bit deb for the missing lib and are calling at it from 32bit userland no?
[10:57] <JosephRuby> mr_queue do I have to sudo the ./configure or something?
[10:57] <Mr_Queue> JosephRuby: What are you compiling?
[10:57] <butti> Mr_Queue: i wish i can answare that
[10:57] <JosephRuby> ggmud
[10:57] <JosephRuby> mr_queue I am having a problem installing ggmud if anyone can help. Downloaded GGMud-0.8.0-src.tar.gz from http://sourceforge.net/projects/ggmud/ extracted it.. did resolved dependancies, did 'make'.
[10:58] <Mr_Queue> JosephRuby: Did you read the README.txt or INSTALL.txt provided with the source?
[10:58] <Mr_Queue> Read each of the above line for line...
[10:58] <stickyboy> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 on a machine with an NVIDIA graphics card, after the boot menu the screen goes blank.  Should I use the alternate installer or something?
[10:58] <JosephRuby> mr_queue the readme has no assistance for installing, and gimme a min to check on install.txt.
[10:59] <Mr_Queue> stickyboy: Couldn't hurt to try. Let us know how it works out.
[10:59] <eigar> How do I list gnome session names?
[10:59] <Mr_Queue> eigar: meaning?
[10:59] <stephni> help coming?
[10:59] <eigar> Mr_Queue: to use with gnome-session --session=SESSION_NAME in ~/.xsession
[11:00] <stickyboy> Mr_Queue: Ok.  I'm currently booted in 11.04 on the same machine... but with proprietary graphics.
[11:00] <Mr_Queue> grep comes to mind.. I'm not exactly sure what you're after.
[11:00] <stickyboy> I really wanna get a newer kernel, Xorg, drm stack to hopefully jump onto nouveau.
[11:00] <eigar> I want to run gnome classic (no effects)
[11:00] <JosephRuby> mr_queue: there is no install.txt, the readme.txt has no install instructions, aswell as the sourceforge forums that the readme.txt directs me to.
[11:00] <Mr_Queue> stickyboy: roll your own.. Look at kernel-package
[11:01] <eigar> If I log in with the gdm login screen desktop freezes.
[11:01] <Mr_Queue> JosephRuby: Not sure then, you might need to just look at the code..
[11:01] <eigar> I'm trying to startx from tty
[11:01] <dandre> hello
[11:01] <eigar> with gnome - but unity starts
[11:01] <eigar> And wit no gdm, no manus etc are loaded
[11:01] <dandre> Are package repositories different for ubuntu server than for ubuntu desktop ?
[11:01] <JosephRuby> mr_queue: thanks :D
[11:01] <stickyboy> Mr_Queue: Yah, I compiled my own 3.1 kernel.  It works fine, but I'd like to get new X stuff as well.  The edgers PPA gets messy.
[11:02] <stickyboy> Not to mention I just want to get up to the latest stable Ubuntu.
[11:02] <Mr_Queue> stickyboy: there isn't anything newer than what's in the tree.. You need to play with a .config file..
[11:02] <stickyboy> I wasted a few hours a couple weeks ago trying to switch to nouveau.  Meh.
[11:02] <deej1976> eigar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[11:02] <Mr_Queue> Look at 'make menuconfig'
[11:02] <deej1976> !who
[11:03] <salih_cerebrux> me prefer ' make xconfig' than 'make menuconfig' :P
[11:04] <stickyboy> Proprietary graphics drivers are really a pain.  I don't need flying and jiggling windows, I spend my days in a full-screen terminal anyways. :)
[11:05] <butti> Mr_Queue: "You installed a 64 bit deb for the missing lib and are  calling at it from 32bit userland no?
[11:05] <Mr_Queue> stickyboy: Check make menuconfig, you'd be surprised what has actually made the kernel.
[11:05] <butti> Mr_Queue: what are you suggesting to do?
[11:05] <JosephRuby> mr_queue: of the files in the directory 'makeapp.sh' is one that I am curious about.. is that type of file something that might help me, if so what would I do with it?
[11:05] <ajin1> :P
[11:05] <stickyboy> Mr_Queue: It's `nconfig` for kernels after 2.6.34 or so... ;)
[11:06] <deej1976> JosephRuby: file makeapp.sh, if it say text, more makeapp.sh and have aread
[11:06] <stickyboy> Mr_Queue: My kernel works fine. :)
[11:07] <Mr_Queue> butti: I don't know.... But I remember seeing the dpkg -i for a 64 bit deb.. dpkg -i libstdc++6_4.4.3-4ubuntu5_amd64.deb but then calling from /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6:
[11:07] <ServerTech> My encrypted HDD shows that it's not a mountable file system after entering its password.
[11:07] <Mr_Queue> butti: Doubt that will work.
[11:07] <Mr_Queue> 64 can run 32, but 32 can't run 64.
[11:08] <Mr_Queue> butti: Give the 32 bit package a go perhaps..
[11:08] <Mr_Queue> Hard to say..
[11:09] <butti> Mr_Queue: aha...
[11:09] <ServerTech> anyone?
[11:11] <szal> anyone what?
[11:11] <ServerTech> [16:37] <ServerTech> My encrypted HDD shows that it's not a mountable file system after entering its password.
[11:12] <eigar> deej1976: thanks. But needed session name to put in config file. Is in /etc/share/gnome-session/session/ , so then one can add one of those to startup. ie gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback
[11:14] <JosephRuby> deej1976: thanks :D it was for osx
[11:16] <dyd> guys what means when i find ~ before a path? where should i look?
[11:16] <dyd> guys what means when i find ~ before a path? where should i look?
[11:17] <Mr_Queue> dyd: what are you looking for?
[11:17] <dyd> Mr_queue: ~/.quakelive/quakelive/home/baseq3
[11:17] <Mr_Queue> find $HOME -name "baseq3"
[11:17] <Mr_Queue> or....
[11:18] <Mr_Queue> find $HOME/.quakelive/quakelive/home/baseq3 -exec 'do your damage here'
[11:18] <dyd> it seems that it's not there
[11:18] <Mr_Queue> then it is not.
[11:19] <gappie> can you automatically login as a user on system boot ans run a shell script as the user. All of this being automated?
[11:19] <Mr_Queue> You move/delete is lately?
[11:19] <onre> dyd, ~ means "home directory". that's, well, the home directory of your user. if you just type 'cd' without a directory name, you end up in your home directory.
[11:19] <Mr_Queue> gappie: yes.
[11:19] <dyd> onre: thanks
[11:20] <gappie> Mr_Queue : instead of running it as root? how?
[11:20] <Mr_Queue> gappie: as root, add the user to the mix.
[11:20] <gappie> mix?
[11:20] <Mr_Queue> add something like.... sudo -u username /path/to/command/
[11:21] <mahasona> I'm in mahasona user , I need to add root permission on this account
[11:21] <magnus_> Hi
[11:21] <gappie> Mr_Queue : what does that do: sudo -u username /path/to/command/
[11:21] <Myrtti> mahasona: if you don't have it already, then it's unlikely you can add it yourself. Could you explain a bit more?
[11:21] <Mr_Queue> runs /path/of/command/ as whatever user you list with -u
[11:22] <gappie> Mr_Queue : ok so will stdout be displayed on the screen then?
[11:22] <Mr_Queue> depends...
[11:22] <mahasona> Myrtti: well in like /var/www folder I can't paste, rename files . I need to be a root do those changes
[11:22] <evil_hog> weee! I made it! i installed kubuntu x64 on GPT with EFI
[11:22] <Mr_Queue> redirect it where you need to.
[11:22] <evil_hog> mneptok: thanks for assistance, it worked
[11:22] <Mr_Queue> If it's automated, I doubt you need to see it daily. If so, mail it to yourself.
[11:23] <Myrtti> mahasona: use sudo for it
[11:23] <Myrtti> or add yourself to www-data group
[11:23] <gappie> Mr_Queue : can i add "sudo -u username /path/to/command/" to crontab -e
[11:24] <Mr_Queue> root's yes.
[11:24] <Mr_Queue> sudo -u username /path/to/command/ 2>/dev/null
[11:24] <mahasona> Myrtti: how can I add to www-data ?
[11:25] <hacked_kernel> how to know the installed Graphics card driver version?
[11:25] <Mr_Queue> hacked_kernel: lspci -vvv
[11:25] <Mr_Queue> then.... Go diggin in /var/lib/
[11:25] <Mr_Queue> errr...
[11:26] <Mr_Queue> no that's probaly right..
[11:26] <mahasona> Myrtti: ??
[11:26] <Myrtti> mahasona: hold on
[11:26] <mahasona> thankx
[11:27] <Myrtti> mahasona: are you on normal ubuntu or server install? and which version?
[11:27] <bullgard4> K3b urges me to terminate the program gvfsd-cdda before I continue using K3b. gvfsd-cdda stands for »"gnome virtual file system daemon für Compact Disk Digital Audio"«. '~$ ps aux' shows that a Prozess gvfsd-cdda is running.  It has been started by the command »/usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawmer :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. Who or what has started the program gvfsd-cdda? Me not explicitely.
[11:27] <mahasona> normal ubuntu machine
[11:27] <mahasona> 11.10v Myrtti
[11:28] <magnus_> exit
[11:28] <Myrtti> mahasona: you're using unity? hit Super (Windows) key, type in group - it should show "Users and Groups" - start that
[11:29] <mahasona> Myrtti: I changed my group in to root , but it changes back
[11:30] <Myrtti> mahasona: tap "Manage Groups" - pick www-data - properties - tick your username
[11:30] <dubbe> mahasona: you have to log out and back in for the changes to take effect
[11:31] <Myrtti> mahasona: and don't change your group to root.
[11:31] <mahasona> ok I changed my group to www-data
[11:32] <Myrtti> mahasona: how, from advanced settings or the way I told you to?
[11:32] <mahasona> from advanced settings :/
[11:32] <eigar> what is logout command for unity (using terminal or "run" dialogue)?
[11:32] <Myrtti> mahasona: don't do that :-(
[11:33] <gappie> cron mentions that errors are emailed to the user? how and where is this?
[11:33] <mahasona> Myrtti:  ok ok I did the way u asked me
[11:33] <Myrtti> mahasona: change your group in the advanced settings as the one it was as well
[11:35] <mahasona> Myrtti: I did , still I cant paste files into www folder
[11:35] <Myrtti> mahasona: you need to relogin
[11:35] <Myrtti> it doesn't take immediate effect
[11:35] <mahasona> wait lemme relogin
[11:38] <MuNk> if i have a machine 10.0.0.252 and two gatways 10.0.0.253 & 10.0.0.254 can i configure ubuntu in a way to load-balance between the two gateways then have local machines connect to 10.0.0.252?
[11:39] <gillesm> tikiwiki
[11:40] <deej1976> gillesm: ?
[11:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> MuNk - look at bonded interfaces
[11:40] <MuNk> RaTTuS|BIG, the machine has only one interface
[11:41] <RaTTuS|BIG> put another NIC in and use it as the gateway itself
[11:41] <MuNk> adding another NIC is not a option at this moment at time
[11:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> tehy it becomes none trivial really
[11:43] <jk7> hia
[11:44] <bullgard4> K3b urges me to terminate the program gvfsd-cdda before I continue using K3b. gvfsd-cdda stands for »"gnome virtual file system daemon für Compact Disk Digital Audio"«. '~$ ps aux' shows that a process gvfsd-cdda is running.  It has been started by the command »/usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. Who or what has started the program gvfsd-cdda? Me not explicitely.
[11:44] <Myrtti> bullgard4: probably nautilus or udev. or they combined.
[11:45] <mao> Where can i get the kernel patch for ureadahead
[11:45] <Lectus> Hello! I installed xubuntu-desktop. How can I completely remove ubuntu-desktop, instead of just the metapackage?
[11:45] <Lectus> I want to keep only the dependencies of xubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <bullgard4> Myrtti: How can I find that out reliably?
[11:47] <deej1976> bullgard4: What is the parent process of gvfsd-cdda
[11:48] <Myrtti> bullgard4: no idea.
[11:49] <bullgard4> deej1976: '~$ ps faux' shows me that there is no parent process of it.
[11:49] <Mr_Queue> Lectus: how was it installed?
[11:49] <Lectus> via apt-get
[11:50] <Mr_Queue> meh
[11:50] <deej1976> bullgard4: What is the number ? 1?
[11:50] <warlock_handler> hi is there an easy way to make a compile all your code into a deb pack??
[11:50] <Lectus> I mean xubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <Lectus> ubuntu-desktop was via CD
[11:50] <xangua> !checkinstall | warlock_handler
[11:50] <Mr_Queue> Lectus: I don't know of a clean way... aptitude would have done it.
[11:51] <bullgard4> deej1976: The PID is 4085.
[11:51] <deej1976> bullgard4: ps -ef | grep 4085
[11:51] <Mr_Queue> Lectus: apt-get will leave a pile of depends behind.. perhaps deborpan will catch them
[11:52] <deej1976> bullgard4: or ps -p 4085
[11:52] <Lectus> if I use the software center and untick all the dependencies on ubuntu-desktop
[11:52] <Lectus> maybe it does the job?
[11:52] <bullgard4> deej1976: This results in »/usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3« which I have already posted.
[11:53] <Mr_Queue> Lectus: you might try something like dumping the meta, and running aptitude purge $(deborphan) a few times..
[11:53] <Mr_Queue> no idea if it will be truely clean though...
[11:54] <quixotedon> all: how can we delete wine programs directly without using wine? i upgraded to 11.10 and wine was deleted during the upgrade process
[11:54] <quixotedon> (delete programs we installed in wine)
[11:55] <bullgard4> deej1976: '~$ ps -p 4085; CMD=gvfsd-cdda'.
[11:55] <rabbi1> how to install
[11:55] <Mr_Queue> !gnome
[11:56] <deej1976> bullgard4: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-839853.html
[11:56] <Mr_Queue> !rm gnome
[11:56] <rabbi1> how to install Wireless LAN on ubuntu 11.04 ? it's not working ....... :(
[11:56] <deej1976> !wifi | rabbi1
[11:56] <Mr_Queue> Lectus: It would probably be faster to move /home off the disk and start again.
[11:57] <om26er> !test
[11:58] <rabbi1> deej1976: i have not got wifi more over i don have "network connection" in my 11.04 version
[11:59] <deej1976> rabbi1: "how to install Wireless LAN" ? more details required then
[12:00] <rabbi1> deej1976: bought new Dlink DWA 525 - NIC Addon Card. I have a router setup. just inserted the addon and trying to connect it through wireless
[12:00] <rabbi1> deej1976: by the way direct cable works...
[12:01] <deej1976> rabbi1: So ubuntu is not detecting your new Dlink DWA 525 wireless card?
[12:03] <rabbi1> deej1976: yeah may be, i even got a usb net connection, even that's not detected....
[12:03] <rabbi1> deej1976: not worried much about usb at this moment. may be ubuntu is not detecting the card.
[12:03] <deej1976> rabbi1:lspci ?
[12:04] <rabbi1> deej1976: it shows the device
[12:04] <gauravgrt1> hey i installed python imaging doc using sudo apt-get install python-imaging-doc-pdf ....now i want to access it....how do i do that...
[12:04] <deej1976> rabbi1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799715
[12:05] <gauravgrt1> anyone...???
[12:06] <quixotedon> gauravgrt1: sorry, no idea
[12:06] <quixotedon> gauravgrt1: have you tryed typing
[12:06] <gauravgrt1> yeah....
[12:06] <quixotedon> gauravgrt1: typing dash then type the filename?
[12:07] <Lectus> Mr_Queue, I'll go with a clean install. It's really faster and pain-free.
[12:07] <Mr_Queue> Lectus: Have fun!
[12:09] <bullgard4> deej1976: I have read the article which you suggested. All it says that the problem persisted with the people involved just as with me.
[12:10] <bullgard4> deej1976: I have read the article which you suggested. All it says is that the problem persisted with the people involved just as with me.
[12:11] <deej1976> http://tinyurl.com/3fuwd6z
[12:11] <deej1976> bullgard4: ^
[12:13] <bullgard4> deej1976: The article http://steveswinsburg.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/how-to-install-a-d-link-dwa-525-wireless-network-card-in-ubuntu-10-04/ does not even mention cdda.
[12:13] <deej1976> bullgard4: Sorry cross threading
[12:14] <bullgard4> deej1976: I don't know what cross threading is.
[12:15] <deej1976> bullgard4: I was talk to someone else, and sent you a link intended for them.
[12:15] <bullgard4> deej1976: Ah! I see.
[12:15] <deej1976> bullgard4: Sorry I'm unable to help you any further.
[12:16] <bullgard4> deej1976: Thank you.
[12:20] <jubo2> I'm trying to find an error-free, easy to use FOSS OS ...
[12:20] <jubo2> I've tried Xubuntu which had a lot of bugs
[12:20] <jrib> jubo2: error-free is impossible :)
[12:21] <Manu18> bonjour
[12:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> !fr | Manu18
[12:22] <Manu18> pardon
[12:22] <jubo2> I've tried Kubuntu, it has less errors, full screen task switcher bolted into the GUI but to access my wlan I have to remove it from the trusted wlans and re-add it and only then it connects. On Xubuntu I had such situation that the sai d Linux didn't know how to properly hold keys in keyrings
[12:23] <jubo2> jrib: Well I'd like an OS with less bugs
[12:23] <mongy> < currently rocking xubuntu 11.10, works like a boss
[12:23] <jrib> jubo2: which version of ubuntu did you enjoy the most?  I'd use that and then troubleshoot the problems you found
[12:24] <jubo2> ofcourse the value for money is astronomical like it always is with GNU/Linux
[12:25] <jubo2> jrib: Well I can't get Compiz to run on Xubuntu and the full screen tast switcher pre-installed is soooooooo nice :D
[12:26] <xro> Hi, i try to use the GDK lib and i get a segmentation fault... 0x00007ffff465b5e8 in gdk_x11_drawable_get_xdisplay () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0  i found some guys who speak about this issue on the web but no solution... do you know it?  thetrace and the code --> http://dpaste.com/670699/
[12:26] <pppurple> whats the major differences in all the Linux OSs?
[12:26] <jubo2> pppurple: the flavour
[12:26] <mongy> jubo2, I got compiz and emerald running fine on mine
[12:27] <jubo2> mongy: must be great for you
[12:27] <pppurple> jubo2, being just how they are set up and the windows run? not exactly sure what "flavour" technically means
[12:27] <jrib> pppurple: package manager and defaults
[12:27] <jubo2> I have only buggy OS'es made by Cupertino, Redmond and Portland ... *g*
[12:27] <mongy> jubo2, what problems you getting?  its just a matter of installing compiz packages and compiling emerald
[12:27] <sattu94> pppurple: yes some of them are juicy, some are (bare)bony, some are like (eye)candy.. :P
[12:28] <jubo2> mongy: I installed Emerald from the software center
[12:28] <mongy> jubo2,  how? its not in the 11.10 repos.
[12:28] <pppurple> sattu94, ubuntu would be what flavour?
[12:28] <sattu94> pppurple: good question!
[12:29] <pppurple> hahahah
[12:29] <pppurple> damn linux
[12:29] <jubo2> I think I last tried it on 10.10 mongy
[12:29] <mongy> jubo2, ah.   http://i.imgur.com/JvtSG.jpg  this is mine.
[12:30] <sattu94> mongy: Emerald's nice..
[12:31] <mongy> sattu94, yeah, kind of need it if using compiz on xfce.
[12:35] <bullgard4> »ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3« which I have already posted." What does "spawner" here mean?
[12:36] <xangua> you don't need it to use compiz on xfce mongy sattu94
[12:37] <mongy> xangua, how do you make it look non-crap then?  I tried installing metacity and other stuff but I cant get it to use anything decent
[12:40] <niko__> gg
[12:40] <niko__> la
[12:40] <ThSenior> hi guys
[12:40] <ThSenior> is there possible to run a command from a taskbar icon?
[12:40] <sgo11> hi, in gnome3, what is the window theme? metacity?
[12:41] <bullgard4> sgo11^Do you mean »lightdm«?
[12:41] <sattu94> mongy:  But it does run right? I guess thats what he meant.
[12:42] <sgo11> bullgard4, sorry, no. Window Theme in gnome-tweak-tool.
[12:42] <mongy> sattu94, yeah, it does run, but for me it just looks crap.
[12:43] <JLuc> hello
[12:43] <JLuc> i got a problem with ubuntu one :
[12:43] <sattu94> mongy: and he probably assumed so because you used the word "need"...instead of want
[12:43] <mongy> sattu94, ok , my mistake
[12:44] <sgo11> bullgard4, http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=22255   you can see the window theme option.
[12:44] <JLuc> When i add somebody so as to share a folder, both the dialog disappear and the nautilus folder closes, and nothing is done. Is it a known problem ? How to manage to share a folder ?
[12:44] <pppurple> what would be a good bare bones linux OS?
[12:44] <sattu94> pppurple: damn small linux, puppy ? featherlinux ?
[12:45] <sattu94> pppurple: LFS ?
[12:46] <pppurple> sattu94, hmm looking at them. kinda looking for a blank OS that i can just build into something i like.
[12:46] <sattu94> pppurple: LFS would be nice, then.
[12:46] <sattu94> pppurple: Linux From Scratch, you start from building everything from scratch, Make your own OS!
[12:47] <pppurple> sattu94,  so i decide which apps and everything it installs?
[12:48] <evil_hog> does anybody know how to get rid of black login screen on kubuntu 11.10 installed on lenovo z570? it uses efi and sandy bridge cpu
[12:48] <pppurple> is there a way to take things for the different linux builds and ram them together?
[12:48] <sattu94> pppurple: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[12:48] <sattu94> pppurple: LFS would be the way to go, maybe you could install yum on ubuntu and get away with it. but stil.
[12:49] <pppurple> sattu94, thanks. looking threw those suggestions
[12:51] <SlowBait> hi, i deleted ubuntu partition, and now i cant start windows
[12:51] <miguel> Hola
[12:51] <miguel> alguien
[12:51] <eigar> Is there a "repair" for Ubuntu (11.10) ? As in check all system files and fix broken, but do not touch settings etc.
[12:51] <miguel> que hable español por aqui
[12:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> !es | Guest76942
[12:52] <dr_willis> eigar:  other then a filesystem check, or perhaps some grub-repair tools.. ive not seen any.
[12:52] <sgo11> in gnome3, how can I change the 'close' 'max' button icon? It seems the 'window theme' will change those button icons. but where can I get window themes? thanks a lot.
[12:52] <SlowBait> hi, i deleted ubuntu partition, and now i cant start windows
[12:53] <eigar> dr_willis: filesystem check, as in fsck ?
[12:53] <dr_willis> SlowBait:  you need to reinstasll your windows bootloader.
[12:53] <dr_willis> eigar:  yep.  Unless you have had filesystem curruption, the system should be intact..  unless of course you started deleting stuff :)
[12:53] <SlowBait> dr_willis: how can i do it within ubuntu_
[12:54] <dr_willis> SlowBait:  not sure - someone mentioned a mbr command in here the otehr day. I always use a windows rescue/restore/installer disk.
[12:54] <dr_willis> !info mbr
[12:54] <dr_willis> SlowBait:  but if you deleted ubuntu.....
[12:54] <_nix_> I think it's FIXMBR from the windows recovery disk
[12:54] <dr_willis> fixmbr is for SOME versions of windows.
[12:54] <dr_willis> ms likes to change the command every so often..
[12:54] <_nix_> :(
[12:54] <dr_willis>  ages ago it was 'fdisk \mbr'
[12:54] <eigar> dr_willis: no, haven't deleted any. But I can't start X. Only freeze youst after login/launch.
[12:54] <pangolin> I think the problem is he doesn't have a windows disc
[12:55] <dr_willis> eigar:  boot to text mode.. see if that works
[12:55]  * dr_willis is getting questions confused. :)
[12:56] <eigar> dr_willis: yes. I have done that. Im in text mode at tty now. But launching x, even with gnome-fallback freez up
[12:56] <bullgard4> sgo11: The field »Shell theme« is empty with me, and there is a warning triangle next to this field.
[12:56] <dr_willis> eigar:  try a alterantive desktop like icewm, or jwm, see if that freezes up.
[12:56] <royh> i'm going to install a local pastebin, but i don't know which one to pick. anyone got any recommendations for a good pastebin?
[12:56] <sgo11> bullgard4, yeah. you have to install the extension and then enable it.
[12:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> royh pastbinit
[12:57] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[12:57] <eigar> dr_willis: most lightwight? icewm?
[12:57] <eigar> *light weight
[12:57] <dr_willis> eigar:  jwm is about as light as they get.
[12:57] <dr_willis> eigar:  icewm is nice. but a bit dated :) it works.. just a lot of the old support tools for it - no longer are int he repos.
[12:57] <royh> RaTTuS|BIG: it needs to be hosted on my own server. like i said, a local one. it won't be accessible externally
[12:58] <eigar> and after install i start by  adding "exec jwm" to .xinitrc and execute startx?
[12:58] <bullgard4> sgo11: I am content with my GNOME Shell's 3.2.1 appearance and do not intend to install extensions.
[12:59] <dr_willis> eigar:  you got it.
[12:59] <pppurple> kubuntu is ubuntu but with a different windows manager?
[12:59] <dr_willis> eigar:  i always put a 'xterm &' befor 'exec jwm' :) so i always got a term open
[12:59] <Stanley00> pppurple: yes, as I know
[13:00] <dr_willis> pppurple:  differnt desktop. KDE vs Gnome
[13:00] <dr_willis> window manager is one part of the desktop
[13:00] <threezero> lxde or gnome for a tablet?
[13:00] <sgo11> bullgard4, oh. no worries. the reason why I replied you because you just sent me a message about your shell theme is empty. that's why I replied you how to make it non-empty. :)
[13:00] <dr_willis> threezero:  given how unoptimzed ubuntu is for tablets.. id say try both. :)
[13:01] <eigar> dr_willis: One thing that makes me a bit suspicious is that the desktop image (The pink / purple thingy of Ubuntu) is corrupted. It shows up with about 1/3'd of image ok, and rest gray. (Thats even when I have managed to start up X and launch ie terminal before it freze)
[13:01] <lion42> threezero, I've used gnome on my tablet. It worked fine. I do not have experience with lxde on a tablet.
[13:01] <threezero> seem like lxde is the least resource hungry?
[13:01] <dr_willis> eigar:  thats plymouth.. its a bit of junk. :) i always disable plymouth and use a normal text boot sequence.
[13:01] <pppurple> so as im learning here all the disrtos are based off the linux kernal and thne its just how they use the kernal and present it to you ie how the OS looks?
[13:02] <lion42> Gnome 2 / old gnome with no effects is not very bad, either, threezero. Depends on how weak your tablet is?
[13:02] <dr_willis> 'on a tablet' - theres a big varity of tablets out there. :)
[13:02] <threezero> the tablet in question here is hp touchpad
[13:02] <NotTooDumb3> Hi all, i have two laptops, in both laptops on windows os i get internet but not on ubuntu, is there any doc which i can follow to configure internet on ubuntu?
[13:03] <threezero> i'm a noob at this
[13:03] <threezero> so can i have gnome and lxde install at the same time?
[13:03] <jrib> threezero: yes, you can choose which to use at the login screen
[13:04] <threezero> ah
[13:04] <threezero> nice
[13:04] <deployment> afternoon, Anyone know why MySQL Administrato schedule dosn't work for me?
[13:04] <threezero> anybody here has the touchpad too?
[13:05] <brondy> with a gnome destop on a dual screen is there a way to get a  panel at the bottom ovf both screens
[13:05] <dr_willis> threezero:  you can install a dozen desktops/wms if you wanted. :)
[13:05] <eigar> dr_willis: I do not mean the purple in boot sequence, but on desktop (like default background)
[13:05] <eigar> dr_willis: is plymouth there as well?
[13:06] <dr_willis> brondy:  thers a unoffical tweak/veraint for a bottom panel. mentioned at the webupd8 and/or the omg!ubuntu! blog site.
[13:06] <brondy> thanks dr_willis
[13:06] <dr_willis> eigar:  the default wallpaper is some splotchy color pattern for some odd reason. :)
[13:07] <pppurple> ubuntu runs a gnome desktop? is there a way to switch desktops in ubuntu?
[13:08] <allu2_> Hello, i have weird problem with unity and nvidia proprietary driver, 3D accel works but moving windows on the screen is slow and may "freeze" the screen while i move a window
[13:08] <allu2_> ubuntu 11.10
[13:09] <jubo2> what is this "unity" I keep hearing about ?
[13:09] <dr_willis> pppurple:  the login screen has a menu under the 'gear' next to the login box.
[13:09] <dr_willis> pppurple:  and yes. Ubuntu uses gnome. unity is a shell on top of gnome-3
[13:10] <pppurple> is there a good resource to learn about all these noob questions? like is there a linux history book with different distor sections haha
[13:11] <dr_willis> pppurple:  ubuntu.com perhaps.. askubuntu.com   various blog sites have guides.
[13:11] <dr_willis> stuff changes so fast often docs are  for older releases.
[13:11] <dr_willis> !manual
[13:11] <dr_willis> like that manual.. its a bit dated. but a good read
[13:11] <eigar> dr_willis: ok. I'll try to launch jwm. Thanx for help (now might everything crash again)
[13:12] <pppurple> im just trying to understand what all linux is used for and what i can do with it. i am reading the ubuntu wibsite stuff now
[13:12] <dr_willis> pppurple:  its for everything from embeded controllers/watches/phones to high end servers :) and toasters..
[13:12] <dr_willis> dont forget the toasters..
[13:13] <pppurple> dr_willis, haha yeah i am seeing that...thats why im learning about it and what i can do with it. seems a little bit useful.
[13:14] <mongy> i think it might be used in my samsung lcd tv.. cant be certain tho.
[13:14] <v1nc3n7> dr_willis, pppurple: and I think its saver...cause it isnt spread like windows...
[13:14] <dr_willis> what was that micro  linux on a thumbdrived thing i saw a few weeks back in the blogs.. i cant find it on google now. :)
[13:15] <allu2_> jubo2: ok, i fix, i have problem with unity shell on top of gnome 3
[13:15] <dr_willis> v1nc3n7:  its 'safer' because of how its designed from the beginning keeping user and system seperate as much as possible..
[13:15] <deployment> afternoon, Anyone know why MySQL Administrato schedule dosn't work for me?
[13:15] <pppurple> v1nc3n7, yeah i just kinda hate windows. wish more games were going linux or mac or something else
[13:15] <deployment> afternoon, Anyone know why MySQL Administrator schedule dosn't work for me?
[13:16] <sgo11> since nobody replied me. I just got the answer. gnome 3 window theme is metacity theme.
[13:16] <v1nc3n7> dr_willis: right! I forgot the seperation of user and system ;)
[13:16] <stercor> I have a video as an .iso.  How do I burn it to a DVD so I can play it?
[13:16] <v1nc3n7> pppurple: Me too :D But I love Linux! :)
[13:17] <allu2_> what manages windows on unity?
[13:17] <allu2_> 3d
[13:17] <eigar> dr_willis: works fine with jwm. So probably a gnome issue.
[13:17] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[13:17] <alextum3> stercor  use any app which can burn DVD isos
[13:17] <pppurple> v1nc3n7, yeah im liking it more and more. just trying to learn all the different options and find someting that fits right or i can modify into what i like the best.
[13:17] <stercor> alextum3: I used k3b but it made an .iso on the DVD.
[13:17] <allu2_> !unity
[13:18] <allu2_> !glutter
[13:18] <sattu94> pppurple: given your level of experience LFS might not be a very good choice I guess... :)
[13:18] <allu2_> uh whats the name of unity3d wm..
[13:18] <allu2_> !clutter
[13:18] <dr_willis> LFS is a bit annoying.. :)
[13:18] <allu2_> something like that i think..
[13:18] <dr_willis> you could just read the manual/docs and not follow the guide.
[13:19] <stercor> alextum3: And mplayer does not recognize the .iso format.
[13:19] <pppurple> sattu94, its good to learn with though. makes you find solutions to problems
[13:19] <sattu94> dr_willis: yes, but you can still call it LFS, since it is LFS.. :)
[13:19] <alextum3> stercor, http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/11/burn-cd-and-dvd-iso-images-with-k3b/
[13:19] <v1nc3n7> pppurple, in order to solve problems google is my best friend :) And sometimes if I have big problems I use a forum...
[13:19] <dr_willis> sattu94:  just read the lfs guide.. and dont make a lfs system :)
[13:19] <RaTTuS|BIG> !google
[13:19]  * sattu94 laughing out loud haha..
[13:20] <styelz> vagina
[13:20] <quixotedon> ubottu: what's 'goggle-fu'??
[13:20] <teddyroosebelt> hey folks - is the software center down for anyone else?
[13:20] <pppurple> v1nc3n7, yeah google is just perfect. have used this chat to figure out specific things fast though. love the linux community so far
[13:20] <stercor> alextum3: Thanks!\
[13:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=google-fu
[13:21] <Ravior> It's up for me
[13:21] <Ravior> hmmm It just crashed.
[13:21] <Ravior> Perfect.
[13:21] <sattu94> lol
[13:21] <alextum3> stercor, you're welcome
[13:22] <dr_willis> pppurple:  keep an eye on this new hardware for a cool portable linux system -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/cotton-candy-the-usb-sized-arm-pc-that-runs-ubuntu/
[13:22] <nox_cry> hello guys
[13:22] <sattu94> I mostly use the software centre to read about packages, screenshots etc, then install it through command line.
[13:22] <Ravior> 21 mb error report... huh...
[13:22] <sattu94> :P
[13:22] <Ravior> it's killing me...
[13:22] <echo_mirage> i can traceroute webpages, but i can not ping them /read them. what might be the problem?
[13:22] <nox_cry> i have a problem with my ati grafics driver 11.11 on my ubuntu 11.10
[13:23] <v1nc3n7> pppurple, Im now the first time in an IRC today :D So i try to find out how it works :D
[13:23] <pppurple> dr_willis, hmmm, looking at that right now.
[13:23] <nox_cry> after installing my ubuntu freezes in text mode and gui mode
[13:23] <chiyan> how to install vmware
[13:23] <nox_cry> i´ve tried to reinstall it serveral times, but it wasn´t helpfull
[13:23] <dr_willis> !vmware
[13:24] <allu2_> dr_willis , pppurple http://www.raspberrypi.org/ another cool project
[13:24] <pppurple> v1nc3n7, i use to use IRC a long time ago for video games and have just started using it again the last week! wish i would have used it more
[13:24] <nox_cry> anyone here, who can help me?
[13:24] <pppurple> allu2_, thanks. looking at that as well!
[13:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ask nox_cry
[13:25] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, if u have a moment I can help u installing VMware...
[13:25] <chiyan> anyone here, who can help me?
[13:25] <chiyan> how to install vmware
[13:25] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, ME! :D
[13:25] <szal> chiyan: follow the instructions on the VMware site
[13:25] <allu2_> !compiz
[13:26] <dr_willis> or the vmware help.ubuntu.com site......
[13:26] <szal> chiyan: or in the downloaded software package, if applicable
[13:26] <dr_willis> !vmware | chiyan
[13:26] <dr_willis> and with vmware (and vbox) a read of their docs.. is a must.
[13:27] <videoburner> Please help the error is: No packages with the requested plugins found The requested plugins are: application/x-brasero decoder
[13:27] <arunm> dr_willis:I have 3 virtual machines on my servers. I am using Oracle Virtual box. how can I configure kickstart installation? Of 3 machines, i would like to use one as server and install others from it
[13:27] <allu2_> urgh i can't understand this problem, why compiz effect work perfectly but moving windows around is too much to ask?
[13:27] <chiyan> how to install ms office
[13:27] <pppurple> is there a pre-hot key to switch between specific app windows like alt-tab for a specific program?
[13:28] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, do u have a moment? Then I can help u installing VMware...
[13:28] <chiyan> ok
[13:28] <dr_willis> pppurple:  with unity, you can use win+a # (1through 9) to go to that app.. the # appears in the unity panel icons.
[13:28] <v1nc3n7> pppurple, u have now the chance to use it more :D
[13:29] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, Do u already have downloaded it from the homepage?
[13:29] <chiyan> install command
[13:29] <dr_willis> pppurple:  if using unity - must read links --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/36274/tips-and-tricks-for-unity
[13:30] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, Do u already have downloaded it from the homepage?
[13:30] <Q|> xmodmap command in terminal is being ignored, e.g. xmodmap -e 'keycode 133 = Alt_L' doesn't seem to do anything (key isn't mapped). The keycode is correct, just checked it with xev. Tried other keycodes, not working as well.
[13:30] <videoburner> Please help the error is: No packages with the requested plugins found The requested plugins are: application/x-brasero decoder
[13:31] <jrib> Q|: and if you try to make it a key other than alt?
[13:31] <chiyan> how to install samba? any one help me?
[13:31] <Q|> jrib: Special keys or simply another character key?
[13:31] <jrib> Q|: try 'q' :)
[13:31] <dr_willis> chiyan:  its in the repos... sudo apt-get install samba
[13:31] <pppurple> dr_willis, thank you. reading. i thought i saw a welcome to ubuntu that gave some tips built in but i cant find it now =(
[13:31] <dr_willis> !samba | chiyan
[13:31] <videoburner> chiyan: sudo apt-get install samba
[13:32] <Q|> jrib: ^^ Will try it ;)
[13:32] <videoburner> Please help the error is: No packages with the requested plugins found The requested plugins are: application/x-brasero decoder
[13:32] <Guest19107> HII
[13:32] <Guest19107> FREE SHELL BNC PLEAS ?
[13:32] <Guest19107> 1 BNC ADDED ?
[13:32] <videoburner> Q|: please help?
[13:32] <jrib> !ot | Guest19107
[13:32] <dr_willis> Guest19107:  i suggest using google for that.. not here.
[13:32] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, did you already download VMware?
[13:32] <Guest19107> free shells ?
[13:32] <Guest19107> free shells ?
[13:32] <Guest19107> free shells ?
[13:32] <FloodBot1> Guest19107: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <videoburner> jrib: are you my wife
[13:33] <dr_willis> Guest19107:  thats one way to get banned.
[13:33] <videoburner> jrib: help me?
[13:33] <jrib> videoburner: not as far as I know :)
[13:33] <chiyan> yes i downloded, then what i do
[13:33] <Q|> jrib: Well, for q it actually does work. So, are names like "Alt_R" just wrong? Where can I look those up anyways?
[13:34] <videoburner> jrib:  Please help the error is: No packages with the requested plugins found The requested plugins are: application/x-brasero decoder
[13:34] <Kripton> Hi there. Does anyone know wether the "APU" AMD A8-3850 with "Radeon 6550D" works with Ubuntu 11.10 out of the box?
[13:34] <videoburner> Q|: please take that to #ubuntu-admibn
[13:34] <jrib> Q|: yeah, there is some special way to work with the modifier keys
[13:34] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, then you must install the basispaket with "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[13:34] <videoburner> People actually want help no need to just talk about how to effectivley ban the unintelligent
[13:35] <videoburner> Please help the error is: No packages with the requested plugins found The requested plugins are: application/x-brasero decoder
[13:35] <Myrtti> videoburner: please stop repeating your question that often
[13:35] <dr_willis> videoburner:  and whats saying that and when?
[13:35] <Q|> videoburner: I actually don't know what you're talking about, but you obviously don't know what I was asking either, so, please scroll up and read properly, thx.
[13:35] <ubuntu_> Which tool is the best for burning ISOs to DVD-Rs?
[13:35] <Ravior> register alien rapiteanu_catalin@yahoo.com
[13:36] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  most any of the tools can do that.
[13:36] <dr_willis> !burn
[13:36] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  thers others in the repos also.
[13:36] <kp> Hi, i need help with pptpd. I cannot get more than 10 mbit through it, yet openvpn gives me 90. Is that cureable?
[13:36] <ubuntu_> dr_willis, yeah, but I've had a lot of trouble with them in the past. Both Brasero and Xfburn has corrupted a lot of my disks.
[13:36] <videoburner> I have to repeat because of the constant screen flood I have to make sure it appears on screenbuffer for people who might be here to actually help.
[13:36] <sipior> videoburner: don't do that.
[13:36] <videoburner> No one wants to scroll through backbuffers of trolling
[13:36] <jrib> Q|: I don't know of a good reference.  Check if the ubuntu wiki has a good xmodmap page.  If not, try to look for one about swapping alt and apple key on macs.  That should get you started in the right direction
[13:36] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  most all of them are front ends to wodim i belive. I cant recall any issues with any of them.
[13:36] <videoburner> sipior: Then answer
[13:37] <jrib> videoburner: please wait at least 10 minutes between repeats.  Thank you
[13:37] <dr_willis> videoburner:  and whats saying that and when?    <---------------------- please answer
[13:37] <videoburner> jrib: no people dont read 10 minutes of backbuffer
[13:37] <ubuntu_> dr_willis, I'll risk it with Xfburn then.
[13:37] <jasmin> hii friends
[13:37] <jrib> videoburner: yes.  No more discussion.  Let's get back to support.
[13:37] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  i normally use k3b
[13:37] <videoburner> I have to make sure when the screen is flooded my question appears again until answered
[13:37] <ubuntu_> dr_willis, alright, will try that one then
[13:37] <videoburner> ok back to support
[13:37] <helen_> Hello...
[13:38] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  im just used to it. and its feature set does what i need.
[13:38] <jrib> videoburner: if you're removed from the channel it will be hard for people to see your question.  So please wait patiently.  This way *everyone* can get help.
[13:38] <videoburner> SUPPORT NEEDED! Please help the error is: No packages with the requested plugins found The requested plugins are: application/x-brasero decoder
[13:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ask helen_
[13:38] <Myrtti> videoburner: nobody wants to scroll through the channel being flooded by only your questions. This channel isn't only for helping you with your problems. I'm not going to ask you to stop repeating again.
[13:38] <sipior> videoburner: don't be a douche.
[13:38] <v1nc3n7> chiyan, it would be nice to get a feedback if you did what i said...
[13:38] <helen_> I'm unable to use my iPod shuffle with Ubuntu.
[13:38] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  its a bit heavy for simple iso burning. but it does it well
[13:38] <Q|> jrib: Yeah, I will try to find some info about it. I actually did search for explicit swapping of keys, that's where I got the starter from, but apparently it's either outdated and doesn't work like this anymore or I'm doing something wrong ^^
[13:38] <videoburner> sipior: then clean that hole out yourself
[13:38] <ubuntu_> dr_willis, I don't mind
[13:38] <Q|> jrib: I'll see what I can find, back to research and thx so far :)
[13:38] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  im so used to it. I need to find k3b for windows.
[13:39] <helen_> Also...
[13:39] <sipior> videoburner: muwhahaha. and yet you still have your problem.
[13:39] <helen_> I read this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[13:39] <jrib> Q|: it involves modN .  If I was on my laptop, I could give you what I use.  If you can't find anything useful in your google searches, let me know and I'll try too
[13:39] <ubuntu_> dr_willis, you're in here a lot helping people. You've helped me several times in the past. Thank you. :)
[13:39] <Myrtti> sipior: don't bait
[13:39] <dr_willis> ubuntu_:  :) it pays to not have a life..
[13:39] <videoburner> sipior: yes because im the douche in the dirty hole called #ubuntu
[13:39] <Myrtti> !guidelines > videoburner
[13:39] <sipior> Myrtti: you never let me have any fun.
[13:40] <darkline> hi all
[13:40] <Q|> jrib: Allright, I'll try to dig the net for a few minutes and eventually get back to you, thx ^^
[13:40] <v1nc3n7> Hey :)
[13:40] <Myrtti> sipior: it's what I get paid to do (payment subject to inflation of the value of leprechaun gold)
[13:41] <sipior> Myrtti: :-)
[13:42] <videoburner> ubottu: Please see USofA Constitution
[13:42] <helen_> Can someone help me now?
[13:42] <jrib> Q|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1215339 might give you some good ideas
[13:42] <helen_> please?
[13:43] <pppurple> dr_willis, that mini computer that you linked, the cotton candy usb thing, looks pretty sweet!
[13:44] <dr_willis> pppurple:  that rasberypi one is a similer idea. but cheaper. :)
[13:44]  * RaTTuS|BIG is going to be getting raspberrypi's when they come out
[13:44] <pppurple> dr_willis, haha i asked to many questions and got to many links. havent got to that one yet
[13:44] <helen_> I'd like some help please.
[13:44] <pppurple> RaTTuS|BIG, what do you plan to use them for?
[13:45] <jrib> !helpme | helen_
[13:45] <kp> Hi, i need help with pptpd. I cannot get more than 10 mbit through it, yet openvpn gives me 90. Is that cureable? Tried ubuntu server 9.10 and 11.04. And is this a right channel for pptpd questions?
[13:45] <helen_> !repeat
[13:45] <kp> !attitude
[13:45] <kyle_> I want to add a date to a filename. is there a VAR i can use?
[13:46] <helen_> :(
[13:46] <RaTTuS|BIG> pppurple - offtopic but a shed load of things - nethack on my TV , video play back - also a load of other general stuff ..... will ahve fun
[13:46] <bregma> kyle_, $(date)
[13:46] <jrib> kyle_: in what context?  Do you want to do something like: echo mycoolfile$(date)
[13:46] <kyle_> a backup SQL file
[13:47] <kyle_> just so it dosn't overwrite itself.
[13:47] <kyle_> can I format $(date)
[13:47] <pppurple> RaTTuS|BIG, haha back on topic, all running Ubuntu! haha. everythings a computer!
[13:47] <jrib> kyle_: yes, see man date
[13:47] <JLuc> (re)Hello
[13:47] <kp> i found a nice script for it - search for automysql backup - it supports rotation and so on
[13:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> yeah as soon as ubuntu get their act together and provide proper support - my 1st task will be to make ubuntu work I suppose...
[13:49] <teddyroosebelt> is the software center down today, im getting a blank grey window when i open it
[13:49] <bregma> kyle_, try $(date +%Y%m%d)
[13:49] <kp> Kyle_: Is this what you need? http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/
[13:49] <pppurple> hmm i want to look at how ubuntu works on a business model...and then see why they dont have better suport
[13:49] <quixotedon> teddyroosebelt: mine is not here
[13:50] <tightwork> After I click install ubuntu server from grub... my computer itself starts one long continuous beeps anyone ever seen this?
[13:50] <teddyroosebelt> quixotedon, not here as in not loading either?
[13:50] <quixotedon> teddyroosebelt: meaning mine is working fine :)
[13:51] <Myrtti> pppurple: Canonical offers paid support.
[13:52] <pppurple> Myrtti, yeah i was looking at that. just trying to figure out if ubuntu is supported by them? not sure how ubuntu actaully makes money
[13:52] <teddyroosebelt> oh.. i had it opened twice .. sigh - thanks
[13:52] <jpds> pppurple: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/overview
[13:53] <pppurple> guess jpds, answered that
[13:54] <kyle_> bregma: thanks for that..
[13:55] <abubakr> ciao
[13:56] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD says unmountable drive after putting in the pass?
[13:56] <gappie> I am running this shell script on startup with cron. It is killed after running perfectly for anywhere from 20-200 seconds. Any ideas why the system would kill this process? shell script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/764717/
[13:57] <chiyan> uninstall command ? any one help?
[13:57] <kp> apt-get remove
[13:58] <Kripton> Hi there. Does anyone know wether the "APU" AMD A8-3850 with "Radeon 6550D" works with Ubuntu 11.10 out of the box?
[13:58] <teddyroosebelt> i really wish there was more poker/casino games for ubuntu :(
[13:59] <Ravior> there are many sites for that
[13:59] <gappie> dumbass gamblers use windows
[14:00] <teddyroosebelt> id rather not play on a site, i play for fun.
[14:00] <Ravior> against bots?
[14:00] <malev> hello, I have a ubuntu server and I'd like to connect to it thought ssh without writing my password. what should I do?
[14:00] <teddyroosebelt> yup
[14:00] <pppurple> can you have multiple live boot OSs on 1 usb?
[14:01] <chiyan> uninstall command ? any one help?
[14:01] <teddyroosebelt> gnome-blackjack is still available though.
[14:02] <jrib> !ssh | malev
[14:02] <jrib> malev: see the section about using ssh keys
[14:02] <teddyroosebelt> chiyan, apt-get purge <app name>
[14:02] <ServerTechLaptop> anyone? encrypted hdd says unmountable drive?
[14:03] <malev> thanks jrib
[14:03] <raymondjtoth3> how i save a sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf
[14:03] <raymondjtoth3> in  it what i do tahnks
[14:03] <raymondjtoth3> ?
[14:03] <deej1976> raymondjtoth3: esc esc :wq [return]
[14:03] <pangolin> pppurple: omgubuntu has an article about ceating a multiboot usb
[14:03] <raymondjtoth3> dee  what mean
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> esc esc what mean
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> i want to save sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf deej1976
[14:04] <pppurple> pangolin, ok searching it ty
[14:04] <chiyan> how can install winrar software ? any one help me
[14:04] <bregma> raymondjtoth3, hit the esc key, then type :x!
[14:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> raymondjtoth3 - pres esc twice then :wq then enter
[14:04] <deej1976> raymondjtoth3: press [esc] [esc] type [:] [w] [q]
[14:04] <jrib> !unrar | chiyan
[14:04] <Q|> jrib: Thx for the link, read through it but somehow nothing of the mentioned stuff works. Since I've done some changes to keyboard, layout and stuff, I'll just relog or better reboot. Maybe there's something that's blocking it. Thx so far and let's see what the reboot brings ^^
[14:05] <chiyan>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[14:06] <chiyan> sorry, insatll command
[14:06] <deej1976> chiyan: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[14:07] <Nakou> Hello guiz
[14:08] <Nakou> I need som help an i hope you can help me
[14:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ask | Nakou
[14:09] <Nakou> How i can make an auto-regenerating of conf files of x.org at every boot (nfsrooted system on 3 type of different PC cause graphicals issues)?
[14:10] <raven> how to add applications to dash panel
[14:10] <Ravior> click and drag
[14:11] <chiyan> how can install unrar ?
[14:11] <raven> Ravior, does not work
[14:11] <Nakou> raven: version of linux?
[14:11] <Ravior> sry but I don't know another way
[14:11] <raven> 11.04
[14:11] <Ravior> 12.04 alpha 1
[14:12] <Nakou> raven: unity?
[14:12] <chiyan>  how can install unrar ?
[14:12] <raven> Nakou, yes
[14:12] <Nakou> chiyan: console or graphical solution?
[14:12] <Pici> chiyan: install the 'unrar' package.
[14:13] <Nakou> raven: right clic on the right part of the top bar
[14:13] <Nakou> raven: it propose something interessant?
[14:13] <raven> no
[14:13] <ServerTechLaptop> ._. any ideas on why an encrypted drive says 'unmountable drive' after entering it's password?
[14:13] <Nakou> (i dont have unity, i come here for this)
[14:13] <chiyan> how to install unrar package ?help me
[14:13] <chiyan> how to install unrar package ?help me
[14:13] <Pici> chiyan: sudo apt-get install unrar
[14:13] <Nakou> chiyan: you dont answer our question
[14:14] <chiyan> thank u
[14:14] <Nakou> raven: idk sorry
[14:14] <Nakou> So, help me guys, please :
[14:14] <Nakou> How i can make an auto-regenerating of conf files of x.org at every boot (nfsrooted system on 3 type of different PC cause graphicals issues)?
[14:16] <Pici> Nakou: I'm not sure I understand your question.
[14:16] <Nakou> I explain more
[14:16] <Nakou> I made a nfsroot system for 5 or 6 machines
[14:17] <Nakou> (all the / are mounted come from a server)
[14:17] <Nakou> But, 4 uses ATI cards, 1 intel, and 1 is in dual screen
[14:18] <jason00> Question - am I accurate in saying that Ubuntu's sharing network connection feature is very poor? Has anybody else had good experience with it?
[14:18] <Nakou> so x.org make a lot of problem (if i configure dual screen, it run only on the dual screen PC etc...)
[14:18] <Nakou> And i ask, how i can force to regenerate x.org files at boot
[14:18] <Nakou> ?
[14:19] <Pumpkin-> do the machines have their own /etc ?
[14:20] <Nakou> no
[14:20] <jason00> Hm, strange. It actually looks like it's working. The desktop is connected actively but my laptop is flashing every 5 seconds "Connection failed. Failed to connect."
[14:20] <Pici> Nakou: Is there anything that differentiates the computers?
[14:20] <Nakou> is it a problem right?
[14:20] <bregma> Nakou, the while purpose of /etc is to give local machine-specific configuration, if you use a generic one you will have problems
[14:20] <Nakou> mmhh..
[14:20] <bregma> normally only /usr is network mounted
[14:21] <bregma> but / could be network mounted with /etc mounted from local storage on boot
[14:21] <Pici> Nakou: The way you have it right now all the computers have the same hostname, which is a bit weird.
[14:21] <bregma> or, try using no xorg.conf at all and see what happens
[14:22] <gappie> what are the steps involved in running a shell script from rc.local?
[14:22] <Pumpkin-> or somehow make each machine run a different xorg.conf (for example modify whatever starts X to run X with some flags to make it used xorg-$MYMACADDRESS.conf or something like that).
[14:23] <chiyan> uninstall command?
[14:23] <Nakou> Pici: Yea, I've never seen it like that
[14:24] <iluminator105> my desktop sharing window is blanked out, i dont understand why this is?
[14:24] <chiyan> uninstall command?
[14:24] <gappie> ubuntu jou biets
[14:24] <Ravior> chiyan: sudo apt-get remove
[14:24] <chiyan> uninstall unrar  command?
[14:24] <Pici> Nakou: The only thing I can think of if you must do it this way is to do some sort of detection via /proc or /sys and specify a custom xorg.conf as an argument to xorg in the proper init script.
[14:24] <chiyan> uninstall unrar  command?
[14:25] <Pici> chiyan: You need to stop repeating and actually wait for someone to answer.
[14:25] <Ravior> sudo apt-get remove unrar
[14:25] <tightwork> After I click install ubuntu server from grub... my computer itself starts one long continuous beeps anyone ever seen this?
[14:26] <deej1976> chiyan: sudo apt-get purge unrar
[14:26] <airtonix> Nakou: would etckeeper do it for you ? since it's a git based repository
[14:27] <Pici> Nakou: The problem is whatever changes you make in /etc/X11/ will be seen on all the other computers since its a shared nfs mount.
[14:28] <Pumpkin-> the other option is unionfs
[14:28] <kyle_> bregma: little more help
[14:28] <Pumpkin-> so you "share" a /, but with some stuff overlaid on it. Not sure how you would get into that state though, with having to have a shared /etc/fstab
[14:28] <Nakou> Yea Pici i see. I'm goin to do someting like create one /etc for one type of computer (Chance, 5 PC are the same mark with same hardware)
[14:29] <airtonix> Nakou: how about use clonezilla server to serve pxe booted diskimage via multicast
[14:30] <Nakou> airtonix: i'm goin to see that toop
[14:30] <airtonix> Nakou: in that scenario the home directory is nfs mounted to a place on a central server
[14:30] <Nakou> too*
[14:31] <Nakou> Thanks a lot Pici and airtonix for your helps.
[14:31] <airtonix> Nakou: in my experience, if you use gigabit and a segregated lan, the bootup time is just as fast if not faster than live cdrom
[14:31] <sanduz2> are there any good web server testing programs included in the ubuntu repo? i only found one called httperf
[14:31] <Nakou> If i succeed to do this, i'm goin to publish it.
[14:32] <Pici> sanduz2: I vaugely remember reading something about siege.
[14:32] <sanduz2> Pici, thank you
[14:32] <Nakou> i have a blog : dontpanicit.tumblr.com , you can follow my work on it, so enjoy if you see i succeed :D
[14:32] <Nakou> Thanks a lot again Pici and airtonix
[14:32] <Pici> Nakou: no problem :)
[14:32] <Nakou> seeya
[14:38] <deej1976> sanduz2: hammerhead
[14:42] <Stanley00> Hi, I have a question : Can I edit the fstab file before ubuntu mount, and how can I do this?
[14:48] <GridCube> with a  live cd Stanley00
[14:49] <Stanley00> GridCube: It's inside the installed system, I want to change it at boot time
[14:49] <Stanley00> GridCube: so you mean, I cant, right?
[14:49] <Rushing> if a command has an option like --without-whatever, how do i set that to false implicitly?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:50] <GridCube> if you want to edit it before booting you need to change it before using a live cd and then boot, but if you want to edit just once i don't know
[14:51] <donavan01> I installed server and I have two different GUI's gnome and xfce .... xfce was installed first but I need a few tools from the standard ubuntu desktop (gnome) how do I start gnome ... right now if I type startx I always get xfce
[14:51] <deej1976> donavan01: Have you got an ~/.xinitrc file
[14:52] <GridCube> donavan01, you can start gnome services from xubuntu
[14:52] <BluesKaj> donavan01, open the menu at login and choose your desktop there
[14:53] <GridCube> donavan01, on the "session & startup" > advanced tab > start gnome services at startup
[14:53] <donavan01> Im not running xubuntu and I dont see a ~/.xinitrc file
[14:54] <donavan01> Im running server with xfce installed over top
[14:54] <Stanley00> OK, next question : how can I run a script just after the installer in liveUSB finish?
[14:54]  * GridCube shrughs then
[14:54] <deej1976> donavan01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[14:55] <donavan01> Thank you
[14:57] <jason00> Question - I NEED to configure my wired NIC. I'm in Gnome Shell currently in Ubuntu 11.10. But I cannot configure it unless it is connected. Uh. No. How can I do this?
[14:57] <ejv> i'm having some problems with my ubuntu box and apcupsd. "Error contacting apcupsd @ localhost:3551: Connection refused" Sometimes it works for the first few minutes of the server being on, then it stops responding. Suggestions?
[14:57] <sipior> jason00: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[14:58] <jason00> sipior: uh...
[14:58] <jason00> sipior: thanks for the suggestion, but no. I'm using network manager.
[14:58] <chiyan>  i will install ubuntu in my pc , how much  space allocated  root directory ? any one help me?
[14:58] <sipior> jason00: enjoy doing it the hard way.
[14:58] <ejv> chiyan: up to you, how much space do you need
[14:58] <tomek_> hi
[14:58] <deej1976> chiyan: My 11.04 is currently using 7.3G for /
[14:59] <jason00> sipior: if I boot into Unity, I have theoptions I need. They're just not present in Gnome.
[14:59] <ejv> i give root 20G or 25G, sometimes as low as 10G though
[14:59] <jason00> sipior: so if you consider the hard way logging out and into unity, then I shall enjoy it. :D
[14:59] <deej1976> chiyan: How much are you going to install
[14:59] <tomek_> anyone can recommend me a chess program?
[14:59] <chiyan> root
[14:59] <sipior> jason00: i consider the coupling of network access and desktop environment to be fundamentally broken.
[15:00] <deej1976> tomek_: apt-cache search chess
[15:00] <tomek_> any programmers here?
[15:00] <chiyan>     root space, boot space ,swap space
[15:00] <donavan01> is there any real difference between server and desktop besides the lack of GUI preinstalled
[15:00] <ejv> !offtopic | tomek_
[15:01] <jclbrt> donavan01, yes there are some additional packages that can be installed with server
[15:02] <jclbrt> tho they can be added later with desktop as well
[15:02] <jclbrt> but harder in my opinion
[15:02] <chiyan>   how much allocated   root space, boot space ,swap space  for ubuntu 11.04?
[15:02] <chiyan>   how much allocated   root space, boot space ,swap space  for ubuntu 11.04?
[15:02] <jclbrt> also the server has less of an overhead due to the lack of a GUI as you mentioned
[15:02] <helen_> How do I use my iPod in Banshee?
[15:02] <helen_> I want to add music to my iPod.
[15:03] <deej1976> !repeat | chiyan
[15:03] <jclbrt> which for most people is a plus for the server (if you need to use it as a server)
[15:03] <helen_> It's an iPod shuffle.]
[15:03] <helen_> Please help me.
[15:03] <helen_> This problem is really making me rage.
[15:04] <jclbrt> dont own an iPod :-(
[15:04] <jclbrt> sorry I cant help helen_
[15:04] <helen_> :(
[15:04] <Xase>  ipod?!
[15:04] <Xase> What about them?
[15:04] <helen_> Xase: Yes.
[15:04] <chiyan>   how much allocated   root space, boot space ,swap space  for ubuntu 11.04?
[15:04] <helen_> Xase: Pay attention.
[15:04] <jclbrt> chiyan... i dont understand your question
[15:04] <helen_> and you'll know.
[15:04] <Xase> ...
[15:05] <donavan01> jclbrt OK so really no differnce in the two unless I have a specialize need...and to save on resources just install a gui to use for somethings and just log out when its not needed
[15:05] <Xase> Yes because I'm sitting at my computer 24/7
[15:05] <Fbol> how to power off another computer?
[15:05]  * Xase eyerolls.
[15:05] <deej1976> chiyan: What are your machine spec memory/harddisk
[15:05] <Xase> You just lost someone willing to help, that owns an iPod.
[15:05] <jclbrt> xase... helen_ wants to know how to sync his/her ipod in banshee
[15:05] <chiyan>   how much  space  allocated   root directory , boot  ,swap   for ubuntu 11.04?
[15:05] <deej1976> chiyan: What are your machine spec memory/harddisk
[15:05] <jclbrt> donavan01, well even if you exit there are still some services running that just use up resources
[15:06] <Fbol> how to power off another computer by bash ?
[15:06] <chiyan> 250 GB space
[15:06] <chiyan> 2 GB ram
[15:06] <jclbrt> fbol u have to initiate an ssh session to execute the command on a remote machine
[15:06] <deej1976> Fbol: ssh anothercomputername then init 0
[15:06] <chiyan> 2 GB ram, 250 GB hard disk
[15:06] <chiyan> 2 GB ram, 250 GB hard disk
[15:06] <jclbrt> what deej1976 said Fbol
[15:07] <deej1976> !repeat | chiyan
[15:07] <donavan01> jclbrt ... I like having the gui for some things and I dont mind a little overhead for that ... I basically trying to build a old EEE PC into a wireless bridge and I guess doing so from the gui is way easier
[15:07] <jclbrt> donavan01, you'll find you'll be using the command line more
[15:07] <helen_> I'm annoyed at my mum for ordering me an iPhone for xmas.
[15:07] <fa1c0n> Hi~
[15:07] <helen_> I want an android.
[15:07] <helen_> :(
[15:08] <Fbol> jclbrt: can you give me a command?
[15:08] <jclbrt> but with the server version you can install webmin and have a full gui to modify your iptables and NIC settings
[15:08] <fa1c0n> android?
[15:08] <meway> why does VLC have issues with mp4 format?
[15:08] <Vustom> After making my Windows partition smaller and moving it to the right with GParted I can no longer boot into Windows, it says something about it being inaccessible
[15:08] <deej1976> chiyan: Go for 1G(/boot),50Gb(root),4Gb Swap, rest /home
[15:08] <jclbrt> meway mp4 is usually purchased music/video from like itunes or something from my understanding
[15:08] <jclbrt> Fbol, what do you mean?
[15:09] <Fbol> i'm bad at English and I want to see command like... echo [text]  << jcbrt
[15:10] <jclbrt> ummmm... lol i cant help you then without knowing anything about what you want to do
[15:10] <donavan01> jclbrt no arguments there and once I get it setup and running smoothly I can always rip the gui back out I guess... thanks for the insight
[15:10] <deej1976> Fbol: sudo apt-get install mc
[15:11] <Hotkeys> Fresh install of ubuntu 11.10. I have a network share smb://10.0.0.1/share       I can save to it by copying a file from my desktop.I cannot save to it with Libreoffice or Google earth (input output error) However, if I run either program as sudo it will save to the share drive. Is there a solution, so I don't have to run libre office as sudo?
[15:11] <jclbrt> the command is simple... deej1976 i believe said it before
[15:12] <jclbrt>  ssh anothercomputername then i'd use shutdown -h now
[15:12] <jclbrt> Fbol,
[15:12] <deej1976> Fbol: ssh anothercomputername init 0
[15:12] <Vustom> After making my Windows partition smaller and moving it to the right with GParted I can no longer boot into Windows, it says something about it being inaccessible, can anybody help me!?
[15:12] <jclbrt> or what deej1976 said
[15:12] <jclbrt> i think that will work too
[15:12] <tosse> in 11.10 unity.. i created a shortcut to terminator on the dash, but if want to add the option of starting more than one, how do?
[15:13] <rigved> hi everyone. can anyone tell me what are the names of the various urgency levels in Notify.Urgency? I know one is LOW.
[15:13] <jclbrt> Vustom, are you using Grub?
[15:13] <Vustom> Yup
[15:13] <Vustom> :)
[15:13] <jclbrt> u may have to rewrite gparted
[15:13] <jclbrt> errr rebuild
[15:13] <Vustom> how would i do this?
[15:13] <jclbrt> it's probably looking at the wrong partition
[15:13] <jclbrt> can u boot ubuntu?
[15:14] <Vustom> yes, using it now :)
[15:14] <mongy> Fbol, ssh user@host -t sudo reboot
[15:14] <jclbrt> ok Vustom give me a sec
[15:14] <mongy> Fbol, assuming you know the users password and they are admin
[15:14] <Vustom> I only edited the Windows parition (took 50gb space from it, has like 100gb left) and that's it, didn't touch Ubuntu or anything else
[15:14] <Vustom> Only Windows parition
[15:14] <jclbrt> mongy dont they have to be root or sudo to initiate a shutdown
[15:15] <mongy> jclbrt, that command will do what he wants.
[15:15] <Vustom> jclbrt: Okay :)
[15:16] <fa1c0n> :)
[15:17] <jclbrt> Vustom, can you run from the command line of your ubuntu OS "grub-install -v"
[15:17] <Vustom> jclbrt: One moment :)
[15:17] <jclbrt> that will give me the version information
[15:17] <Vustom> jclbrt: grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-12ubuntu5
[15:17] <jclbrt> oh
[15:17] <jclbrt> hmmm
[15:17] <jclbrt> not yet grub 2.0
[15:18] <Vustom> I can update if you can tell me how :D
[15:18] <jclbrt> Vustom, do a "sudo apt-get update"
[15:18] <jclbrt> let me know when it is done
[15:18] <deej1976> !return
[15:19] <Xmann> Does LIGHTDM make system to boot faster ?
[15:19] <Vustom> jclbrt: Done :) Btw, when I gave my Windows patition 50gb less it moved from sda2 to sda3 I think, not entirely sure but it moved it to the right, well that's what it said :D
[15:19] <jclbrt> yea thats fine
[15:20] <jclbrt> reinstalling grub will actually identify it automatically
[15:20] <jclbrt> or should identify it
[15:20] <fa1c0n> 0.0
[15:20] <jclbrt> Vustom, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:20] <sam22> hail !!!!
[15:20] <sam22> people of this channel !!
[15:20] <Vustom> jclbrt: Would sudo update-grub work?
[15:20] <sam22> when is the next ubuntu release after 11.10 ?
[15:20] <Vustom> jclbrt: Latest released version of Ubuntu, I forget what it's called :D
[15:20] <jclbrt> no i dont think so
[15:20] <jclbrt> oh so it is grub 2 already
[15:20] <deej1976> sam22: 12.04
[15:21] <jclbrt> strange
[15:21] <jclbrt> :-\
[15:21] <Vustom> nope
[15:21] <sam22> deej1976 yeah but when? i will do alot of work upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10
[15:21] <Vustom> I installed BURG, but I stuffed that up
[15:21] <jclbrt> wel grub2 is the default on the new ubuntu
[15:21] <Xmann> Can lightdm makes system boot faster comparing to gdm?
[15:21] <sam22> should i wait ?
[15:21] <deej1976> !12.04 | sam22
[15:21] <Vustom> So I used some program to reinstall grub on a live CD
[15:21] <jclbrt> oh
[15:21] <deej1976> sam22: April 12.04
[15:21] <sam22> ok
[15:21] <sam22> i understand
[15:21] <sam22> 04/12
[15:21] <jclbrt> ok Vustom do a "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"
[15:22] <compdoc> it time for taxes
[15:22] <jclbrt> it'll probably complain about version conflicts and offer a solution to un-install grub
[15:22] <Vustom> jclbrt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765002/
[15:22] <tosse> in 11.10 unity.. i created a shortcut to terminator on the dash, but if want to add the option of starting more than one, how do?
[15:22] <jclbrt> oh strange then
[15:23] <jclbrt> ok Vustom makes it easier then
[15:23] <Vustom> jclbrt: Windows is at /dev/sda2
[15:23] <sskalnik>  Why would pbuilder not fetch dependencies needed to build a package? http://paste.ubuntu.com/764997/
[15:23] <jason00_> Why is it so many features are missing in Gnome Shell's rendition of Network Manager????
[15:23] <stasenok>  /j ubuntu-ru
[15:24] <stasenok> sorry
[15:24] <jclbrt> Vustom, in the terminal type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair"
[15:24] <jclbrt> we are adding this to your repos
[15:25] <Vustom> jclbrt: Done :)
[15:25] <Hotkeys> Hello,using fresh install of ubuntu 11.10. same problem before I reinstalled out of frustration. I have a network share at smb://10.0.0.1/share       I CAN save to it by copying a file from my desktop.I CANNOT save to it with Libreoffice or Google earth (input output error) However, if I run either program as sudo it WILL save to the share drive. Is there a solution, so I don't have to run libre office as sudo?  If i boot into a live flash drive it a
[15:25] <jclbrt> then after that let me type in "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair"
[15:25] <jclbrt> let me know what happens
[15:26] <Vustom> jclbrt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765008/
[15:26] <Pupuser-1> hi
[15:26] <jclbrt> Vustom, did you run the other command?
[15:27] <jclbrt> Vustom, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair"
[15:27] <Vustom> I think that's what I used a few days ago when I stuffed up BURG :)
[15:27] <jclbrt> the boot repair utility?
[15:27] <Vustom> But trying that now
[15:27] <Pupuser-1> I love Ubuntu
[15:28] <Vustom> jclbrt: I'll let you know in a moment
[15:28] <jclbrt> k
[15:28] <Vustom> yeah, it's the same method I used to fix burg :)
[15:28] <jclbrt> Vustom, do you have a GUI installed?
[15:29]  * Vustom scratches head
[15:29] <jclbrt> graphical user interface
[15:29] <jclbrt> instead of command line
[15:29] <Vustom> gnome 3 :)(
[15:29] <jclbrt> i assume you are using Gnome right?
[15:29] <jclbrt> ok
[15:29] <Vustom> I'm in advanced settings
[15:29] <jclbrt> just wondering
[15:29] <FloodBot1> jclbrt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <Vustom> do i enable repair file systems?
[15:29] <jclbrt> no
[15:29] <jclbrt> close advanced options
[15:30] <jclbrt> isnt there a button that just says "Recommended repair"?
[15:30] <Vustom> fine :(
[15:30] <Vustom> btw
[15:30] <Vustom> the error message i got when i booted windows, looked like the windows terminal
[15:30] <Vustom> and not linux..
[15:30] <jclbrt> huh?
[15:31] <jclbrt> you may want to check on gparted that the partition you moved it to is flagged as boot
[15:31] <Vustom> How?
[15:31] <jclbrt> do u have Gparted installed on your ubuntu?
[15:31] <Vustom> yes
[15:32] <Vustom> I just did it
[15:32] <jclbrt> ok open it up
[15:32] <Vustom> Right click > Manage flags > boot
[15:32] <jclbrt> yea
[15:32] <jclbrt> ok
[15:32] <Vustom> Should I try and restart PC now?
[15:32] <jclbrt> yea
[15:32] <jclbrt> see if that fixes it
[15:32] <jclbrt> i'll wait
[15:32] <Vustom> k, brb 3 minutes
[15:32] <STEFANINA81> !list
[15:32] <jclbrt> k... you're being timed
[15:35] <Fbol> hi
[15:35] <jclbrt> hi
[15:35] <Fbol> i have a problem
[15:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> ask your questions
[15:36] <jclbrt> fbol: what problem
[15:36] <Fbol> i wrote ssh 5.147.131.160
[15:37] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted harddrive shows 'unmountable drive' after entering password?
[15:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ask |fbol
[15:38] <mongy> Fbol, need to connect as a user that exists on the server with sudo rights.  or connect as root
[15:38] <Vustom> jclbrt: That didn't work, although I got the error code this time and did some research, here's a fix; http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/
[15:38] <mongy> Fbol, if you are still tackling this remote shutdown thing.
[15:39] <Vustom> jclbrt: I really don't want to do this though, because I know that'll patch my Windows theme and a few other things :/
[15:39] <Amdpc> Hi...How to install .so file ??
[15:40] <jclbrt> Vustom, well that might be the only way u can fix it
[15:40] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amdpc - you don't probably - what are you trying to make work
[15:40] <jclbrt> it shouldnt change the theme
[15:40] <jclbrt> :-\
[15:40] <Vustom> It'll patch shell32.dll and some other files which I don't want it too
[15:41] <delinquentme> so im working on an instance of postgresql .. as per the doc recommendation I've created a separate user for writing to the database ..  however I'd like to install "pg_ctl" for the postgres user to use .. but I'd like to not give it sudo  ... how should I go about this?
 Adobe flash player...I downloaded a tar.gz file and it has a directory called usr and a file libflashplayer.so..I want to install it
[15:41] <pppurple> any one know a channel for linux mint or mind me PMing them about Mint 12
[15:41] <Myrtti> !mint | pppurple
[15:42] <deej1976> Amdpc: The are installation install with the download, but what's wrong the with distrubed Ubuntu one?
[15:42] <Hotkeys> Fresh install of ubuntu 11.10.     I have a network share smb://10.0.0.1/share       I can save to it by copying a file from my desktop.I cannot save to it with Libreoffice or Google earth (input output error) However, if I run either program as sudo it will save to the share drive. Is there a solution, so I don't have to run libre office as sudo?
[15:43] <Amdpc> deej1976> dry...?
[15:43] <deej1976> !flash | Amdpc:
[15:43] <Amdpc> sry*.. :P
[15:43] <sskalnik> Hotkeys:  what are the permissions of that share?
[15:43] <Hotkeys> I can save to the share with a live flash drive I dont think the share permissions are related
[15:43] <Hotkeys> I can save to it on windows or running libre office as sudo
[15:43] <usr13> Hotkeys: Edit your /etc/fstab file
[15:44] <usr13> Hotkeys: Oh sorry, samba, I was thinking nfs.
[15:44] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amdpc .... oh deej1976 beat em to iy
[15:44] <Vustom> jclbrt: If I boot into Windows Recovery CD and type bootrec /repairbcd,  bootrec /osscan and bootrec /repairmbr that should fix it
[15:44] <sskalnik> Hotkeys:  with a live flash drive, aren't you root? I would confirm the permissions for the share
[15:44] <Hotkeys> ubuntu is the username on live
[15:44] <Vustom> jclbrt: I'll go try that :)
[15:44] <deej1976> RaTTuS|BIG: move your keyboard right a little :D
[15:44] <ebik19> hello
[15:45] <jclbrt> Vustom, let me know what happens
[15:45] <sskalnik> Hotkeys:  I would confirm the correct group membership as well
[15:45] <usr13> Hotkeys: Well, may be the same issue.  Not sure, would just have to see what you have
[15:45] <RaTTuS|BIG> deej1976 - lol - it's these fingers I tells ya ...
[15:45] <sidney_> Update man fails due to size mismatch, I tried sudo apt-get update but can't see that it installed
  !flash shall work..Thanks :)
[15:45] <Vustom> jclbrt: I'll be back in 10ish minutesd
[15:46] <Hotkeys> usr13 sskalnik I can cut and paste any file from my desktop to the share with no problems its hard to believe its the share permissions. i could be wrong i suppose. windows users have no problems
[15:46] <usr13> Hotkeys: How are you mounting the samba share? Is there an entry in fstab?
[15:46] <sskalnik> Hotkeys:  are you a member of a group with samba access?
[15:46] <Vustom> I'll need to type that GRUB fix into the terminal again via Live CD once I do this though
[15:46] <Vustom> So don't forgot it, I'll probably be 10-20 minutes as I forgot about that part :D
[15:47] <Hotkeys> usr13 I am adding a bookmark after typing smb://10.0.0.1/share in my address bar. from nautilus as a non root user is fine to copy and paste the files with no problems. I will investigate the group access on samba sskalnik as well as editing my fstab thank you guys
[15:47] <Shodowjedi01> Sorry if I don't use proper IRC Etiquette  but I am in SERIOUS need of help before I throw my computer through the wall
[15:47] <Shodowjedi01> pm please
[15:47] <usr13> Hotkeys: What OS is on 10.0.0.1 ?   MS Windows?  or Linux?
[15:48] <Bsims> I know calibre stores which book in a series it is in the metadata... how do I display it in book view?
[15:48] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  what seems to be the issue?
[15:48] <Hotkeys> usr13 I will have an answer for that shortly. My engineer maintains our share drive.
[15:48] <Shodowjedi01> may I pm SSkalnik
[15:48] <Shodowjedi01> ?
[15:49] <deej1976> !ask | Shodowjedi01
[15:49] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  probably better to post it here so anyone can help
[15:49] <Shodowjedi01> ok here goes
[15:49] <sidney_> sudo apt-get upgrade this command dosen't change my system from 10.04 will it?
[15:49] <Shodowjedi01> I am trying to get jack audio to recognize my audio hardware
[15:49] <sskalnik> sidney_:  Nope
[15:50] <Shodowjedi01> I downloaded pavucontrol
[15:50] <Shodowjedi01> and I got my mic input jack working but every time I try to connect it to jack audio it just stops working
[15:50] <Shodowjedi01> how do I fix it
[15:50] <deej1976> sidney_: nope, do-release-upgrade will
[15:50] <usr13> Hotkeys: How is it mounted on your machine?  Via fatab entry?  Let's look at the fstab entry.   pastebinit /etc/fstab  #Send us resulting URL
[15:51] <MadsRC> Evening guys :)
[15:52] <Hotkeys> usr13 I use my address bar (Ctrl L) and type in smb://10.0.0.1/share and then I add a bookmark. I will try the fstab entry next, and I will also find out what kind of server 10.0.0.1 is. I am pretty sure it is a linux share.
[15:52] <Shodowjedi01> Can anyone help me get jack audio working?
[15:52] <Hotkeys> usr13 thank you
[15:53] <Shodowjedi01> can anyone help me get jack audio working?
[15:53] <Shodowjedi01> can anyone help me get jack audio working?
[15:54] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  Afraid I can't help; I would sit tight and wait for assistance instead of repeating the question every minute though.
[15:54] <deej1976> !repeat | Shodowjedi01
[15:54] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  You might also post on the ubuntu forums
[15:54] <usr13> Hotkeys: You are viewing it via the browser?  Or?
[15:54] <Hotkeys> usr13 Nautilus
[15:54] <martian> Shodowjedi01: I also don't have much experience with linux audio I'm afraid, but it also helps to ask more specific questions.
[15:54] <Shodowjedi01> the forums take too long
[15:54] <Shodowjedi01> I just had the idea that the open source community would help
[15:54] <Hotkeys> usr13 my goal is to save files with libre office to our share without running the program as sudo
[15:55] <Shodowjedi01> and every time I try to use the irc I get ignored and yelled at for not useing proper etiquite
[15:55] <usr13> Hotkeys: Must be already mounted?  Well, wouldn't know....  Ok, well, sorry, can't help you.
[15:55] <Hotkeys> usr13 if I run libre office as sudo everything is fine. but my bookmarks arnt on that user, so i have to setup a mount to a local folder. Plus i dont think i should have to run the program as root
[15:55] <martian> Shodowjedi01: but you're only reaching out to the couple dozen people who happen to be watching this channel right now. Your question on the forum will be seen by many more people without you having to repeat it for several hours.
[15:56] <sidney_> update failed from terminal also what should my next step be
[15:56] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  The open source community is typically very helpful, but please understand that not everyone knows everything about every piece of software. It could take time to connect with the right person.
[15:56] <dandre> Are package repositories different for ubuntu server than for ubuntu desktop ?
[15:56] <Shodowjedi01> I'm sorry
[15:56] <martian> Shodowjedi01: if anyone here right now knew how to help, they surely would, otherwise they wouldn't be here.
[15:56] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  Complaining about not receiving assistance Right Now will be perceived as rude, and might actually make people less likely to help.
[15:57] <Shodowjedi01> I understnad, I'm sorry  I have bipolar disorder so I can be a jerk sometimes
[15:57] <Shodowjedi01> I don't mean to be offensive
[15:57] <Myrtti> dandre: no, they're not
[15:57] <Shodowjedi01> I'll go post my query in the forums
[15:57] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  I would post on the forums, since as martian said there will probably be more people who can see it.
[15:57] <Hotkeys> usr13 this was my work around mount smbmount //10.0.0.1/share /home/justin/share -o
[15:57] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  Cool. Best of luck!
[15:57] <jc-2> hello guys, a friend of mine, has forgotten his root password. He ask me how could he get it again?
[15:58] <usr13> Hotkeys: SO that fixes it?
[15:58] <dandre> ok so I don't really understand why/how life time for server is longer than for desktop
[15:58] <Hotkeys> usr13 yes, but it requires me to run the program as sudo first
[15:58] <usr13> Hotkeys: Seems to me that you just need a proper fstab entry.
[15:58] <martian> Shodowjedi01: No big deal; just don't want you to think you're being ignored.
[15:58] <sskalnik> jc-2:  The short version is that he can't, really
[15:58] <usr13> Hotkeys: Run WHAT program as sudo?
[15:59] <Hotkeys> usr13 libreoffice
[15:59] <Shodowjedi01> martain: I get ignored on this side of the screen all the time
[15:59] <usr13> O
[15:59] <Shodowjedi01> so I'm really sorry
[15:59] <Shodowjedi01> I don't mean to be a uberjerk
[15:59] <Shodowjedi01> I know you people want to help
[15:59] <Pici> dandre: Because the server packages will receive updates for a longer period of time.
[15:59] <martian> On my 11.04 system, apt keeps telling me that nfs-common is being held back from updating even with dist-upgrade. Why would this be?
[15:59] <sskalnik> dandre:  Typically servers are something you want to leave running for years without messing with it.
[16:00] <sskalnik> Shodowjedi01:  It's cool
[16:00] <dandre> for sure
[16:00] <jc-2> sorry what do you mean?
[16:00] <Hotkeys> usr13 I can save to the share drive with no problems. Its programs that won't save to it without being ran as root. If i emulate microsoft office in wine, it also works without sudo so I reallly dont think its share permissions. I hate emulating MS office because its slow and wonky. I will be looking into adding the mount via fstab next.
[16:01] <dandre> how can I how exactly what packages will be considered as server grade?
[16:01] <sskalnik> dandre:  Not sure what you mean.
[16:02] <jc-2> sorry what do you mean?
[16:02] <usr13> Hotkeys: Maybe it's something to do with LibreOffice?
[16:02] <sskalnik> dandre:  Are you asking how to tell which packages are in the server version versus the desktop version?
[16:02] <Hotkeys> usr13 Google earth does the same thing
[16:02] <Shodowjedi01> can anyone help me with my boot screen, I messed it up pretty good with plymouth theme manager
[16:02] <jc-2> He's using ubuntu 11.10
[16:02] <Hotkeys> usr13 libre office also works under a live USB drive using ubuntu 10.24 LTS
[16:02] <usr13> Hotkeys: At any rate, you might want to look into using a fstab entry for it anyway.
[16:02] <jc-2> or 11.04 i'm no sure really
[16:02] <sskalnik> dandre:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:02] <Hotkeys> usr13 yes i agree. thank you so much for advice
[16:03] <dandre> for instance bash is used for server and desktop so I imagine that the package will be maintained till 2015 for latest LTS
[16:03] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: didn't MahaVishnu Help you yesterday ?
[16:03] <usr13> Hotkeys: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
[16:03] <Shodowjedi01> deej1976: that was a different issue
[16:03] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: It was the jack issue, you've now got a boot screen mess
[16:03] <dandre> is there a list of packages for 10.04 that will be maintained till 2015?
[16:03] <usr13> Hotkeys: As far as LibreOffice needing to be run as root to save to that dir is a bit odd.
[16:04] <sskalnik> dandre:  Haha, well bash will probably be maintained until 2100.
[16:04] <sskalnik> dandre:  See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for the lists of packages in each release
[16:04] <dandre> bash in version of 10.04
[16:04] <dandre> I meant
[16:04] <Shodowjedi01> deej1976: yes, and my jack issue didn't even really get solved. I try to use the forums as much as possible before I resort to annoying you guys on irc
[16:04] <Hotkeys> usr13 i agree. it only seems to be this distro
[16:04] <usr13> Hotkeys: Let us see what it looks like.  ls -l |grep ^d  |grep share
[16:05] <usr13> Show us
[16:05] <dandre> Yes I know this
[16:05] <Shodowjedi01> linux just really excites me, and I try to do everything myself but I usually  mess it up
[16:05] <usr13> Hotkeys: ls -l ~/  |grep share
[16:06] <usr13> Show us
[16:06] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: This was your last response yesterday: [16:06] <Shodowjedi01> I think that worked Maha!
[16:06] <usr13> Or show me.
[16:06] <cooper_> My laptop keeps dimming. Any way to fix it?
[16:06] <Pici> dandre: the infomration on apt-cache show packagename will show you how long each package is supported for (specifically in the 'Supported' field)
[16:06] <Shodowjedi01> deej1976: I jumped the gun I guess... Should I just leave?
[16:07] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: nope, just wait and be patience
[16:07] <twiggydanger> hi i need help
[16:08] <Shodowjedi01> cooper_: is your laptop plugged in?
[16:08] <cooper_> no
[16:08] <twiggydanger> i'm trying to make a linux live bootable USB and it keeps saying NTLDR not found press ctrl alt del to restart.
[16:08] <Shodowjedi01> cooper_: Plug it in
[16:08] <Shodowjedi01> cooper_: and I think you can change that setting in power management
[16:09] <sskalnik> twiggydanger:  NTLDR is part of Windows; sure you are booting from the right drive?
[16:09] <Shodowjedi01> let me see
[16:09] <twiggydanger> i've used like 4 different programs to put the ubuntu ISO on it and none of them work: Xboot, Unetbootin, Lili, andA_Bootable_USB_by_Vishal_Gupta
[16:09] <stevegjacobs> results of nova-compute log: http://pastebin.com/gM7uPQ1L
[16:09] <deej1976> cooper_: Look in the power management setting, should be a dim on idle somewhere
[16:09] <dandre> ok I will look that
[16:09] <Shodowjedi01> cooper_: it is in power management
[16:10] <Shodowjedi01> cooper_: typically it stays illuminated if you keep it plugged in
[16:10] <twiggydanger> sskalnik: I'm sure. i boot it up, press f12, it asks what drive to boot from i press USB and it says that
[16:10] <twiggydanger> maybe if i unplug my external HDD? ill try that if that doesn't work, i'll be back
[16:10] <sskalnik> twiggydanger:  What did you use to make the live USB?
[16:10] <cooper_> Ubuntu 10.04lts has two boxes that I would uncheck. But there is no way with 11.10
[16:11] <sskalnik> twiggydanger:  Ah, that may be it!
[16:11]  * deej1976 Cheers ubuntu server from 10.04 to 11.10 and still working :D
[16:11] <delinquentme> OK so im in a dir with a pg_ctl *clearly* present .. and i run $ pg_ctl ... and it spits back at me pg_ctl: command not found
[16:11] <delinquentme> how?
[16:11] <Shodowjedi01> twuggydanger: try that, unplugging all usb storage except for the object with the iso
[16:11] <sskalnik> delinquentme:  what is pg_ctl? It may need to be set as executable or fed to an interpreter
[16:12] <delinquentme> sskalnik, how do i check if its executable?
[16:12] <Pici> delinquentme: That is expected, your current path is not part of $PATH.  Try ./pg_ctl
[16:12] <Bartoloni> hi, i need to lower screen freq from 75 to 60 hz on 11.10 (ati vga onboard) how i can do it=? (now after grub, the screen goes black)
[16:13] <sskalnik> delinquentme:  right-clickm properties, permissions, run as program
[16:13] <dandre> Ok I have seen, thanks pici
[16:13] <delinquentme> Pici, so i've attempted to add the pg_ctl to the paths ... currently it was set with " export pg_ctl='/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin'    "
[16:14] <delinquentme> export pg_ctl='/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin ./pg_ctl'  ??
[16:14] <Pici> delinquentme: No...
[16:15] <delinquentme> Pici, i'd like to be able to use pg_ctl to run the executable
[16:15] <Pici> delinquentme: Are you trying to get pg_ctl to run from anywhere? or are you just trying to run pg_ctl this one time from its location?
[16:15] <delinquentme> from anywhere
[16:15] <delinquentme> for a specific user
[16:16] <delinquentme> this user is not root though
[16:16] <Pici> delinquentme: Then you need to modify that user's $PATH.  for right now you can just do: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin   but for the long term you should make a modification to your shell's conf file (.bashrc or .zshrc or whatever)
[16:17] <Shodowjedi01> ok so I posted my issue(s) in the forums  but if anyone who can help frees up in the meanwile please let me know
[16:18] <strikeir13> I am trying to remove an icon from the application list. Is there a file that lists which applications show in the application list, and if so, where is that file located?
[16:18] <delinquentme> Pici i did do that .. export PATH=$pg_ctl:/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin/pg_ctl    ... and im still unable to run it with pg_ctl from command line
[16:19] <usr13> Hotkeys:  smbmount //10.0.0.1/folder /home/justin/share -o username=techsupport,password=#####,rw
[16:19] <Pici> delinquentme: Thats not the command I told you to do.
[16:19] <Shodowjedi01> is there a task kill command?
[16:20] <Pici> Shodowjedi01: oddly enough: kill
[16:20] <delinquentme> Pici, correct because that would set it to PATH
[16:20] <delinquentme> when i want pg_ctl
[16:21] <evil_hog> greetings. when my laptop z570 boots with freshly installed Kubuntu x64 there is extremely low brightness level on KDM login screen. if i manage to enter password and log in, the brightness returns to normal level
[16:21] <delinquentme> nm
[16:21] <zxiest> Hey guys =)
[16:21] <ogotai> yo
[16:21] <zxiest> Does anybody know how I can upgrade ImageMagick?
[16:21] <delinquentme> ok so adding something to the $PATH makes anything in that dir available
[16:22] <sidney_> my system will not update will someone look at my source list for problems
[16:22] <Pici> delinquentme: I don't think you know what you want.  I told you the proper way to change your user's $PATH (which is where your shell will look for named executables). You instead changed the command and messed up your path for this session.
[16:22] <mneptok> Shodowjedi01: one man's opinion here. if you do not have enough experience to know the "kill" command and how to use it, doing things like customizing boot screens and such is probably not a great idea. learn to walk. then run. then hop in the supersonic zeppelin made from elf pelts.
[16:22] <ogotai> zxiest: apt
[16:23] <Shodowjedi01> mneptok: yea that would be a great idea, if I had some idea where to begin, or someone actually willing to help me out
[16:23] <Shodowjedi01> but I guess its stupid of me to see comething as cool and unique and customizable as linux and think that I can be cool enough to use it
[16:23] <BlackBurn> Can i install lightDM login manager on ubuntu 10.10? How? Anyone?
[16:24] <zxiest> ogotai apt what?
[16:25] <Shodowjedi01> I guess the patch job I did for the madwifi drivers was a fluke
[16:25] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[16:25] <Pici> delinquentme: If this is a terminal window, you should be able to just close it and open another.  Otherwise you may be able to get away with just sourcing /etc/environment (the command is source /etc/environment) then you can try this export again.
[16:25] <ogotai> zxiest: did you check what version is available on apt?
[16:25] <Shodowjedi01> ty for that Deej1976
[16:26] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: If you don't have guru to watch, googling for tutorials a good way to start.
[16:26] <xuser1> hi
[16:26] <xuser1> ubuntu 11.10 use compiz?
[16:26] <xuser1> :-D
[16:26] <zxiest> ogotai yes, not the most recent ImageMagick version
[16:27] <Shodowjedi01> xuser1: you can get compiz on 11.04
[16:27] <deej1976> !ccsm | xuser1
[16:27] <Pici> xuser1: yes
[16:27] <sidney_> It seem that this update problem has been an on going problem with 10.04
[16:27] <ogotai> zxiest: thats what i wanted to know, hold on a sec
[16:27] <Shodowjedi01> but I downgraded to 10.10
[16:27] <Shodowjedi01> 8.10 was my fav <3
[16:27] <Pici> sidney_: What is the exact error taht you are getting?
[16:27] <delinquentme> Pici, I'm building myself a tutorial on how to correctly setup postgresql so I think im going to want to set the var in .bashrc .. i THINK .. which is something thats covered in the printenv stuff on the ubuntu manpages right?
[16:28] <evil_hog> is there any way do adjust brightness level in KDM? (Kubuntu 11.10 x64 on laptop Z570, efi, sandy bridge). the login screen is almost completely black
[16:29] <Pici> delinquentme: I don't know what manpages would be best to look at for that.
[16:29] <ogotai> zxiest: my idea would be to either install it from source which is actually not recommended
[16:29] <sidney_> size mismatch is the error
[16:29] <Pici> sidney_: Can you pastebin your error?
[16:29] <sidney_> I'll try
[16:30] <deej1976> delinquentme: man bash
[16:30] <Amon-Ra> Hi guys, i need help with installation..please because i am trying o install it more than 6 hours
[16:30] <delinquentme> Pici, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent_environment_variables this is what im after right?
[16:30] <delinquentme> it looks right...
[16:30] <ogotai> zxiest: or for example check file name and version available, type it into google and add deb extension;) maybe someone had the same issue and shares compiled packet
[16:30] <evil_hog> Amon-Ra: why so?
[16:30] <mydoghasworms> Is anyone here using Komodo for editing their Rails project?
[16:31] <zxiest> ogotai there's no command to issue for update?
[16:31] <Pici> delinquentme: yes
[16:31] <ogotai> zxiest, if apt holds outdated version then I dont really believe you can do it your way
[16:32] <Amon-Ra> well i am using unetbootin and i create a USB boot for Ubuntu, i am doing the installatin normally, i remove the usb but the ubuntu never starts...
[16:32] <Shodowjedi01> deej1976: good stuff on this site
[16:32] <sidney_> should i get somekind of link to post my pastebin
[16:33] <sidney_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765074/
[16:33] <Amon-Ra> it stops at load screen of Booting my compute at verifying dmi pool data
[16:33] <zxiest> ogotai No worries, thanks anyway :-)
[16:33] <Shodowjedi01> is anyone able to help me yet?
[16:33] <deej1976> Shodowjedi01: http://tldp.org/
[16:34] <Pici> sidney_: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:34] <sidney_> 10.04
[16:34] <Amon-Ra> any idea why Ubuntu doesn't load/boot after the installation ? all steps seem to be done correctly
[16:35] <sidney_> nand how do you guys post the name before the comment
[16:35] <ogotai> Amon-ra: what about live version? works fine?
[16:35] <Pici> sidney_: Can you please pastebin you sources.list file? (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[16:35] <Amon-Ra> yes if i load it from UsB it loads fine, with internet available
[16:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> sidney_ start typeing the name and press tab
[16:35] <Amon-Ra> ogotai: yes it loads fine
[16:36] <Amon-Ra> ogotai: live version you mean booting from usb without installation right ?
[16:36] <ogotai> Amon-Ra: aye
[16:37] <Amon-Ra> ogotai: i give a try now with 32bit version, as i was trying up to now with 64 bit..but i don't think that this is the issue
[16:37] <ogotai> Amon-Ra, which release are you trying to install?
[16:37] <Amon-Ra> 11.10
[16:37] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amon-Ra - what hardware are you running
[16:37] <Amon-Ra> tha latest
[16:37] <sidney_> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/765080/
[16:37] <sidney_> kool
[16:37] <Amon-Ra> i have intel core 2 quad (i was running windows 7 64bit up to now)
[16:37] <Amon-Ra> with 4 gb ram
[16:38] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Im sorry i wasnt here yet, what is the issue? spark notes? :D
[16:38] <ogotai> Amon-Ra, you may have ram size detection problems if you run 32bit version;)
[16:38] <dr_willis> Amon-Ra:  what does it do exatly? you see a grub menu?
[16:38] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i am installing ubuntu normally (more than 5 times up to now) from usb but then it doesn't boot..it stops at load screen of bios (verifying DMI pool data)
[16:39] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok thanks :D
[16:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amon-Ra - when you installed ubuntu - didi you just let it install alongside windows 7 or something else
[16:39] <webnet> Amon-Ra, are you installing 32 or 64 bit?
[16:39] <Amon-Ra> RaTTuS|BIG: no mate, i install it with formating the disk , i want only ubuntu  on pc
[16:40] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i was trying 64 bit up to now but now i will try 32 bit
[16:40] <dr_willis> isent verifying dmi pool a bios message?
[16:40] <Amon-Ra> question..if i do manual at partitions, do i have to do anytthing else except root and swap partitions /
[16:40] <webnet> Amon-Ra, no if you have 4 gb of ram use 64 bit. 32bit can only use 2.9gb of ram max it would be a waste of resources
[16:40] <Amon-Ra> dr_willis: yes
[16:41] <dr_willis> Amon-Ra:  you can get by with just a / and swap.
[16:41] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amon-Ra - you will ahve to make one of the parations bootable
[16:41] <Amon-Ra> RaTTuS|BIG: how can i do that ?
[16:41] <Pici> sidney_: I'm guessing that you have a bunch of old repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  You probably should remove them, as your errors before looked like they were trying to get packages for an older version of Ubuntu.
[16:41] <dr_willis> Amon-Ra:  seems odd you are not even getting to the grub menu.
[16:41] <webnet> dr_willis, agreed he should at least see grub...
[16:41] <Amon-Ra> dr_willis: what is grub menu ? :)
[16:41] <Akuma_s> Question: Does the hot keys depends on the windows manager I'm using?
[16:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amon-Ra - reboot with live CD - open a terminal , sudo fdisk - delete all teh paratitions , re start the installatioopj and get it to do everythign for you
[16:42] <dr_willis> Amon-Ra:  the very first menus/loading images.
[16:42] <GridCube> web1109, that is not true see PAE
[16:42] <Akuma_s> Or are they arranged by each program?
[16:42] <sidney_> Pici, thanks I'll try that
[16:42] <Amon-Ra> should i run ubuntu from usb and install it from there or should i proceed with installation directly ?
[16:42] <webnet> Amon-Ra, grub is the menu of available OS choses
[16:42] <RyuGuns> Hewo
[16:42] <dr_willis> Akuma_s:  at the window manager/desktop level - they would be handled by the wm
[16:42] <RyuGuns> All of a sudden my cursor wont move.
[16:42] <delinquentme> Pici, so this is my current environment file  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[16:42] <Amon-Ra> webnet: should i see that menu? i have only ubuntu on pc, not windows
[16:42] <RyuGuns> This is not the first time this has happened?
[16:43] <RyuGuns> Why can't it move and how do I fix it?
[16:43] <delinquentme> it looks like this is colon separated?  bc im missing the idea behind the format
[16:43] <dr_willis> Amon-Ra:  it would be hidden by default unless you hit the shift key. but you are not even seeing the splash screens. so somthing else seems wrong
[16:43] <Akuma_s> dr_willis, aren't they arranged by each program?
[16:43] <Pici> delinquentme: yes, it is colon delimited
[16:43] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yes it should display: Ubuntu 64 bit, ubuntu 64 bit [Recovery], RamTest
[16:43] <Akuma_s> dr_willis, I know some programs have diferent hot keys
[16:43] <dr_willis> Akuma_s:  they might be able to override the wm. but in general.. no. your use of 'hot keys' is a bit. vague. :)
[16:44] <Amon-Ra> i am installing now 32 bit version just in case
[16:44] <Amon-Ra> maybe something is incompatible , who knows
[16:44] <evil_hog> webnet: i don't see such menu
[16:44] <webnet> RyuGuns, Um more details. what version of ubu
[16:44] <RyuGuns> I'm using Oneiric, it was working and all of a sudden the cursor wont move. :(
[16:45] <Amon-Ra> who is better, universal usb installer or unetbootin ?
[16:45] <deej1976> RyuGuns: Can you get to  a console ctl+alt+f1 ?
[16:45] <Akuma_s> dr_willis, 'Hot keys'. 'short keys' yep, to control the windows behavior and stuff
[16:45] <Amon-Ra> guys thanks for your responses, really a lot...
[16:45] <webnet> evil_hog, it doesnt always show. if there are no eerrors, it would boot the first option, but if for example the power went out and the machine cut cold turkey, the next boot yoou should see that ment
[16:45] <RyuGuns> Oh, and it's a laptop so, I'm using a touchpad, if that's important.
[16:45] <RyuGuns> deej1976: Yes.
[16:45] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Idk if one is BETTER per se, i prefer unetbootin
[16:46] <deej1976> RyuGuns: Were you running a web browser ?
[16:46] <Amon-Ra> webnet: at installation type, should i proceed with something else? to manual config partitions ?
[16:46] <webnet> *menu
[16:46] <RyuGuns> deej1976: Yes, chromium.
[16:46] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Im not sure that the partitions are the issue..
[16:46] <evil_hog> Amon-Ra: did you try with default partitioning by the way?
[16:46] <deej1976> RyuGuns: Tried killing it?
[16:46] <webnet> Amon-Ra, if they were i feel you would get a different error...
[16:47] <Amon-Ra> evil_hog: yup.. i will do that now too, i will choose erase ubuntu 11.10 and reinstall (third option)
[16:47] <RyuGuns> deej1976: No, I didn't think that was related to the issue, I will try now.
[16:47] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' on entering password?
[16:47] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Um lol here is a question that deserves asking...
[16:47] <webnet> Amon-Ra, are you surre you have a 54 bit mobo
[16:47] <webnet> ???
[16:47] <dr_willis> 64bit cpu :)
[16:48] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes .. i was running windows 7 64 bit for more than 1,5 year :)
[16:48] <Amon-Ra> also the live usb ubuntu loads normally at 64 bit...should it load if my hardware wasn't supported ?
[16:48] <RyuGuns> deej1976: Didn't work, I think it might be pidgin.
[16:48] <RyuGuns> But I am using pidgin for IRC.
[16:48] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok lol. i fiigured id ask :P cause those arent really compatible if you have a 32 bit onnly mobo/cpu :D
[16:48] <RyuGuns> Also, chromium didn't close.
[16:49] <webnet> Amon-Ra, I suppose no... :P
[16:49] <webnet> the whole thing is odd
[16:49] <deej1976> RyuGuns: Did you try killing the process from the terminal ?
[16:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> Amon-Ra - go though the install again and get it to do a basic install
[16:49] <Amon-Ra> installation of 32 bit version finishes now
[16:49] <RyuGuns> deej1976: How?
[16:49] <Amon-Ra> at the end it says :
[16:49] <webnet> do other things load before you get the error Amon-Ra?
[16:50] <Amon-Ra> remove installation media and close tray blah blah , means to remove usb, right /
[16:50] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yes remove usb
[16:50] <webnet> then reboot
[16:50] <Amon-Ra> actually i don't see an error, it just stops working there..
[16:50] <Amon-Ra> i see the bios splash screen
[16:51] <webnet> Oh ok. are ther other things that load before it?
[16:51] <Amon-Ra> then a table with disks (u know the loading bios) and then it stops
[16:51] <webnet> Amon-Ra, you mean it never starts booting?
[16:51] <Amon-Ra> verifying dmi pool data message was there even when i was running windows
[16:52] <WanderingEnder> Does #Ubuntu also support xubunutu? I am installing Dropbox in xubuntu via Ubuntu Software Center, and the debconf window appeared for a moment, then disappeared.
[16:52] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Ohhhh... this may be a bios issue? anyone wanna second me on that?
[16:52] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i think that it stops exactly at the moment that it has to find where to boot from
[16:52] <dr_willis> webnet:  i said it looked like a bios mesage :) but dident seem tobe an error.
[16:52] <webnet> WanderingEnder, yes
[16:52] <dr_willis> webnet:  its weird that its not giving a 'no os found' or other type message.
[16:52] <Amon-Ra> for example if i run a bootable cd rom, after verifying dmi pool data it starts reading the cd rom
[16:53] <webnet> dr_willis, i must not have signed on yet :D
[16:53] <dr_willis> Amon-Ra:  double check your bios and makre sure its set to boot from the hd?
[16:53] <Amon-Ra> dr_willis: yes that's 100% sure correct
[16:54] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yes that could be the issue. if the hdd isnt a boot option that could easily be the problem
[16:54] <Amon-Ra> i am waiting to download languages and i will report in 1-2 mns about the 32 bit version
[16:55] <webnet> ok. Amon-Ra, it boots?
[16:55] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i will tell you in 1 min.. i am waiting last installation steps of ubuntu
[16:56] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Ohhhh ok you are still on installer gotcha :P
[16:56] <Amon-Ra> but now i see some new messages on installation
[16:56] <Amon-Ra> like
[16:56] <Amon-Ra> installing boot loader
[16:56] <Amon-Ra> and installing grub/something..
[16:56] <webnet> Amon-Ra, boot loader is grub that we were talking about
[16:56] <Amon-Ra> i didn't see these on installing system with 64 bit
[16:56] <webnet> that is the os choises menu
[16:56] <Amon-Ra> i am 90% sure about this..
[16:57] <webnet> Amon-Ra, wow ok. that could be part of the issue as well
[16:57] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes i guess
[16:57] <evil_hog> ./quit
[16:57] <evil_hog> woops :D
[16:57] <Amon-Ra> but if it works now...what should be wrong with 64 bits version? but ok let's see first if 32 bit works
[16:57] <dr_willis> Hmm.. its one of the last things the installer asks.
[16:57] <Amon-Ra> i am restarting
[16:57] <evil_hog> sorry. take care anyway
[16:57] <Amon-Ra> so let's see..
[16:58] <jclbrt> ha.... my old company paid me today even though i quit like two weeks ago
[16:58] <jclbrt> three weeks actually
[16:58] <jclbrt> haha
[16:58] <webnet> Amon-Ra, if there is an issue with the 64 bit installer, you might try the alternate download and try again
[16:58] <Amon-Ra> webnet: let's see...it boots now
[16:59] <webnet> Amon-Ra, it boots?
[16:59] <Amon-Ra> yes.. !!! it worked...at least didn't stop at veryfiying
[16:59] <jclbrt> oops sorry wrong channel... forgot thats off-topic
[16:59] <Amon-Ra> i think ubuntu starts
[16:59] <Amon-Ra> yes
[16:59] <webnet> jclbrt, there is a topic? lol jk jk
[16:59] <dr_willis> sounds like for some odd reason grub dident get installed bya the 64bit installer..
[16:59] <Amon-Ra> i am at ubuntu now..at 32 bits
[17:00] <webnet> dr_willis, yeah... that is strange
[17:00] <webnet> Amon-Ra, if you truly want 64 bit try the alternate download
[17:00] <Amon-Ra> should i redownload the 64 bit ?
[17:00] <RingZer0> The US government is now trying to add DNS filters to censor what we do.  Matt Cutts and NY Times write about this.  This is what freenode is about, what opensource is about, regardless of political party, or IRC chanel topic, this affects all of us.  Please ... http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/?czxLncb -- http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/internet-censorship-sopa/
[17:00] <Amon-Ra> yes i will do it
[17:00] <Amon-Ra> i am going to download them now
[17:00] <delinquentme> Ok so no luck so far setting this path var ... my current var in the /etc/environment  :    PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/postgresql/8.4/bin"    now the last file listed there contains the executable I'm after ... now I've edited that environments file as sudo .. and verified that the path is in there ... however running pg_ctl from the command line still doesnt run it
[17:00] <webnet> Amon-Ra, use the alternate disc not the same one u used
[17:01] <Amon-Ra> yes i am going to alternate
[17:01] <raymondjtoth3> in ubuntu 11.10 how i check my dns im using useing ifconfig
[17:01] <raymondjtoth3> ?
[17:01] <Amon-Ra> what should i choose? bittorrent or alternate locations /
[17:01] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Ok good :)
[17:01] <DarkStar1> Hi. is it possible to search the whole FS for a single file from the command line
[17:01] <raymondjtoth3> what the command please
[17:01] <DarkStar1> ?
[17:01] <dr_willis> raymondjtoth3:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[17:01] <webnet> Amon-Ra, i usually use alternate
[17:01] <compdoc> raymondjtoth3, open the file /etc/resolv.conf
[17:01] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  find, or locate command.
[17:01] <escott> DarkStar1, updatedb; locate or use find
[17:01] <raymondjtoth3> i want to nsee it in terminal like windows sdose
[17:02] <Amon-Ra> ubuntu 11.10 alternate amd64 right ? i see also amd64 desktop
[17:02] <webnet> Amon-Ra, then choose the us server (Assuming you are in the us)
[17:02] <raymondjtoth3> Commander1024,  understand
[17:02] <dr_willis> raymondjtoth3:  that made no sence.
[17:02] <Akuma_s> That 'find' command is impressive
[17:02] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i am in Greece..
[17:02] <compdoc> amd64 is 64 bit
[17:02] <raymondjtoth3> Commander1024,  is that were i can change my dns i what i want also
[17:02] <webnet> Amon-Ra, wow thats awesome!
[17:02] <webnet> :d
[17:02] <webnet> * :D
[17:03] <Amon-Ra> yes it has 3 versions of amd64...alternate, desktop and server...i guess i need alternate ?
[17:03] <raymondjtoth3> dr_willis,  is the command you gave me were i put what ever dns i want to use also?
[17:03] <raymondjtoth3> i now to ubuntu 11.10
[17:03] <webnet> Amon-Ra, choose the desktop
[17:04] <raymondjtoth3> dr you here?
[17:04] <Amon-Ra> i am going to download it from greek server
[17:04] <Amon-Ra> great
[17:04] <webnet> Amon-Ra, i just looked i believe the first one you see is the server edition.
[17:04] <Amon-Ra> http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases-dvd/11.10/release/
[17:04] <Amon-Ra> what should i choose from there?
[17:05] <dr_willis> raymondjtoth3:  that file is made via the network manager tools  and contains the dns servers yes.
[17:05] <Amon-Ra> PC (Intel x86) install/live DVD ?
[17:05] <raymondjtoth3> dr_willis,  so the command you gave me were i put it the text fikle rigfht
[17:06] <raymondjtoth3> file right
[17:06] <hatcher> ya boy
[17:06] <Amon-Ra> i guess this is what i need : PC (Intel x86) install/live DVD....right? as i have intel core 2 quad
[17:06] <dr_willis> raymondjtoth3:   thats the file. yes.. but it will get changed next time network ing restarts unless you set up stuff
[17:06] <dr_willis> !static
[17:07] <theadmin> Amon-Ra: If you are using a 64-bit processor, then pick the amd64 version (it's called "amd64" in the Linux world because those guys made up the 64-bit stuff)
[17:07] <kanhiya> I am getting much less battery backup in Ubuntu as compared to WIndows
[17:08] <Amon-Ra> theadmin: so should i download the 64-bit Mac (AMD64) desktop CD ?
[17:08] <kanhiya> Even though i am using same browser and pidgin
[17:08] <Amon-Ra> theadmin: the first lnk here : http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/ubuntu-releases-dvd/11.10/release/
[17:08] <escott> kanhiya, you can use powertop to try and reduce the power consumption
[17:08] <kanhiya> also brightness is at minimum level
[17:09] <kanhiya> tried but not good as compared to windows
[17:09] <nodestoo1> what libraries do i need to have ssh -X work?
[17:09] <nodestoo1> like what are the basic X libraries?
[17:09] <nodestoo1> this is on a headless server install
[17:10] <zertyui> are you using compiz fusion ? kanhiya
[17:10] <kanhiya> zertyui: Yes
[17:10] <zertyui> tr y to disable
[17:10] <zertyui> it
[17:10] <webnet> Amon-Ra, if its 64 bit the amd64 refers not ti the processor brand but to the architecture su use the amd64 version
[17:10] <zertyui> should be good
[17:11] <kanhiya> zertyui: Back to basic
[17:11] <kanhiya> zertyui: or gnome3
[17:11] <jubo2> Why cannot I have a Linux flavour that has really really really little bugs ?
[17:11] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes the filename is ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64-mac.iso so i guess i am downloading the correct version
[17:11] <webnet> Amon-Ra, wow i like the greek server. the us server had just got the basic apache directory listing... borring looking the greek one looks nice and attractive :P
[17:11] <escott> nodestool, you will usually want the gtk libraries and the like, but its often easier to just install an xserver and just not start it
[17:12] <Amon-Ra> webnet: ntua is the national technologial university of athens, they do good job :)
[17:12] <nodestool> escott: "an xserver" i mean my (mis)undrestanding is that i whould install like xfce or gnome or something? Should i do that?
[17:13] <jubo2> There are nice things in Xubuntu and Kubuntu and I like appreciate the effort put in and all but I'd still like an OS that can properly use keyrings and wlan base stations  and provide an irc client that has working audible alerts ..
[17:13] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yes thats the correct one. the mac refers to the fact that the version is compatible with mac hardware as well
[17:13] <jubo2> I still have some HDD space so I guess I could look at what the GNOME camp has come up with ..
[17:13] <Amon-Ra> webnet: thanks mate! really thanks
[17:13] <georgia> i am having problems with flash framerates on my netbook esp with hulu.com any advice?
[17:14] <Amon-Ra> georgia: are u greek ? :)
[17:14] <Pici> nodestool: If you're just using ssh -X then your applications should have already pulled in the necessary dependencies.  You don't need to install a desktop environment to use them.
[17:14] <Amon-Ra> georgia: georgia is a greek name
[17:14] <escott> nodestool, so your X client applications will need to link to libgtk or libqt etc... If you just install the client applications you need they should pull in everything else, which will by default include an X server. but assuming that disk space is not an issue just let it install
[17:14] <Pici> !ot | Amon-Ra
[17:14] <JLuc> Hello
[17:14] <Amon-Ra> i'm sorry :)
[17:14] <nodestool> escott: i am not installing this app from apt :(
[17:14] <webnet> jubo2,  well dont use the unity interface... i am afraid youll be disappointed... unity is in my opinion BLOATWARE that sucks mega resources and overall is hard to use for the semi advanced to advanced user...
[17:15] <distancia> hellow >.<
[17:15] <distancia> :-P
[17:15] <bugweiser> Hey guys
[17:15] <escott> nodestool, well that makes it harder. you will have to figure out what libraries your application needs and install all those
[17:15] <bugweiser> Does anybody know what rpcbind is?
[17:15] <distancia> no body want sleep .... :(
[17:15] <webnet> Amon-Ra, no problem. :D btw ubottu is just a bot. no need to apologise :)
[17:16] <nodestool> escott: maybe i should just start by bulling something from apt  with a head and see what happens
[17:16] <JLuc> Plz i need help with sun jdk install : when installing it, the licence is displayed full terminalwindow and it blocks the terminal. There is a text "<Ok>" that probably should act like a button but how can I click it ? since its all text and no mouse effect on it.
[17:16] <nodestool> escott: do i need to run startx or whatever before i ssh -X
[17:16] <michaeljwjr> Does anyone here use chromium? Can anyone get this game to work? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oohphhdkahjlioohbalmicpokoefkgid/reviews
[17:16] <bugweiser> Getting error "Cannot open "/run/rpcbind/rpcbind.xdr" not found
[17:16] <Amon-Ra> webnet: lol i didn't know :0
[17:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://linux.die.net/man/8/rpcbind
[17:16] <escott> nodestool, X servers are backwards. What is served is screen space. so the Server runs you the ssh client, and the ssh server doesnt need a server
[17:16] <Benkinooby> JLuc, hit enter... or try to navigate with the tab key to it and the press enter
[17:16] <jubo2> webnet: to install and enable the "full screen task switcher" was a good idea though I'd less visually loading _possibility_ would be nice and if the keyrings/keychains and wlan and irc sounds would work I'd be a happy GNU/Linux camper
[17:16] <webnet> Amon-Ra, lol. its all good! i did the same thing my first time on here! :P
[17:17] <Amon-Ra> webnet: 4 mins for the download to finish...let's goooo... i hope that it will work now the 64 bit
[17:17] <Benkinooby> JLuc, space key could also work
[17:17] <morris4> with ubuntu 11.10, i cant find my wireless network anymore. it does find a lot of others though, and i've also already enabled channels 12 and 13, so thats not the problem. anybody got an idea?
[17:17] <escott> nodestool, so startx on the ssh client (unless it was already running), you do NOT need to run startx on the server
[17:17] <theadmin> michaeljwjr: Seems to work for me...
[17:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> !wireless | morris4
[17:17] <jubo2> Why does these ubuntu/debian based OS'es so frigggen buggy ?
[17:17] <JLuc> no it doesnt benknooby. I tryed O or Y and O enter and Y enter too.
[17:18] <JLuc> when pressing esc there is a short flash with "normal terminal" view
[17:18] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i am so exchited for working with linux and ubuntu  :0
[17:18] <michaeljwjr> theadmin so when you start the game you can play it? In my chromium it just opens a white page that does nothing.
[17:18] <tash> I've tried #ubuntu-server and ##linux, so trying here now :P Fresh install of 10.04 Lucid server and mysql will not start. Notice the output in dmesg, anyone have any helpful tips? http://pastie.org/2992027
[17:18] <JLuc> and it goes back to purple licence view that i cannot get pass
[17:18] <theadmin> michaeljwjr: It gives me a page saying "Preloading content (40MB)", but definetly not something white
[17:18] <michaeljwjr> ok then I'll try and figure it out.
[17:18] <michaeljwjr> what version of ubuntu/chromium are you using?
[17:19] <webnet> jubo2, agreed, but i think what REALLY turns me off to unity is the damn menu. there is no structure to it at all, no accessories menu or whatever, and if the tool you want doesnt fit in the cookie cutter criteria they have set fo available menus , u have to know the EXACT tool name to find it. P.I.T.A.
[17:19] <Amon-Ra> question, if i don't choose download while installing, i guess i can do these downloads later inside ubuntu, right ?
[17:19] <compdoc> yup
[17:19] <Amon-Ra> thanks
[17:19] <compdoc> it will still d/l some stuff
[17:19] <theadmin> michaeljwjr: Hm, it sometimes works and sometimes it randomly redirects me to the white page indeed
[17:19] <jubo2> somebody fix teh Kubuntu tnx pl0xx
[17:20] <theadmin> michaeljwjr: Buggy app I suppose
[17:20] <compdoc> I think that makes it take too long installing
[17:20] <Pici> jubo2: Please file a bug if you are experiencing a bug.
[17:20] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Im glad. and yes you can using the command line. just type sudo apt-get update, then when that is done use sudo apt-get updgrade
[17:20] <michaeljwjr> ok cool. I had a friend test it in win7 and it works for him.
[17:20] <jubo2> Pici: sure thing. Where ?
[17:20] <michaeljwjr> the reviews have sporadic working for some people as well.
[17:20] <theadmin> michaeljwjr: I'm running Chromium on ArchLinux with version 15.0.874.121
[17:20] <Pici> jubo2: ubuntu-bug programname
[17:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:20] <usr13>  /msg ubottu !bug
[17:21] <jubo2> tnx.
[17:21] <webnet> tash. what errors are you getting and how are you starting it?
[17:21] <Amon-Ra> webnet: these commands sounds a little bit alienated to me :p
[17:22] <georgia> i am having problems with flash framerates on my netbook esp with hulu.com any advice?
[17:22] <delinquentme> so apparently I need to add something the to bottom of a username.profile ... file ... anyone know where this might be?
[17:22] <georgia> and no Amon-Ra not greek
[17:24] <tash> webnet: the pastie shows some errors
[17:24] <webnet> lol ok. Amon-Ra dont worry they did to me at first too. what it does is this, apt-get uses aptitude to install software, update makes it check all of the sources to make sure they are still working and downloads from each sourcce the database of available files and packages for downlaod. then upgrade checks everything you have installed and looks for what is out of date and then updates it and installs what is missing. :D
[17:24] <tash> It won't start at boot, and I've tried /etc/init.d/mysql start as well as start mysql and service mysql start
[17:24] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i am creating the usb boot now...let's see
[17:24] <Amon-Ra> webnet: and what is sudo means ?
[17:25] <compdoc> sudo = run as root
[17:25] <Amon-Ra> oh ok, thanks
[17:25] <Paradize> how can i crack a server?
[17:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> !sudo | Amon-Ra
[17:25] <Paradize> how can i crack a server?
[17:25] <theadmin> Paradize: We don't support that on Freenode.
[17:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> Paradize hit it with a hammer
[17:25] <Paradize> sorry for my syntax
[17:25] <Amon-Ra> lol
[17:25] <Paradize> i have a problem
[17:26] <Amon-Ra> Paradize: you can throw it out of a window :p
[17:26] <webnet> yeah Amon-Ra sudo is super user DO and it runs as root which is th eonly account that can actually make changes to the system
[17:26] <Akuma_s> Hahaha
[17:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ask | Paradize
[17:27] <Amon-Ra> should i choose to boot from usb before installation or should i install directly? no difference huh ?
[17:27] <Paradize> how can i use metasploit?
[17:27] <paula__> hi guys
[17:27] <Paradize> hi
[17:27] <theadmin> Paradize: No difference really.
[17:27] <webnet> Paradize, i dont think this is the place for that discussion, ITS ILLEGAL TO HACK SOMEONES SERVER
[17:27] <paula__> where do i get thew 3d slide transitions for impress?
[17:27] <Pici> Paradize: Again, such things are not on-topic for #ubuntu or anywhere else on freenode.
[17:27] <theadmin> err
[17:27] <Pici> !illegal | Paradize
[17:27] <theadmin> Amon-Ra: No difference between installing and booting to Live and THEN choosing to install.
[17:27] <paula__> i meant libreoffice impress sorry!
[17:28] <paula__> verysion 3,4,4
[17:28] <theadmin> paula__: Um... Check out the OpenOffice site (LibreOffice is an openoffice fork)
[17:28] <JLuc> Oh yes Benkinooby i missed your first answer : navigating with tab enabled to hit enter and done ! thx
[17:28] <Amon-Ra> webnet: moment of truth came..i am starting the 64bit installation
[17:29] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok
[17:29] <Benkinooby> JLuc, you're welcome
[17:29] <webnet> :D
[17:30] <tash> webnet: did you see that pastie?
[17:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> tash post it again and your question
[17:30] <webnet> tash. sorry no i cantt find it my apologies. post the link again?
[17:31] <tash> Fresh install of Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid ( server ) mysql will not start on boot or manually, http://pastie.org/2992027
[17:31] <tash> odd, b/c it is working on 1 other server I just setup
[17:31] <paula__> hi theadmin have you tried the impress using 3d transitions?
[17:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> what error tash?
[17:32] <theadmin> paula__: No, sorry, I'm not really into making presentations.
[17:32] <kripton> Hi there. I'm on a ssh-session to an ubuntu (11.10) host right now and I want to add "nodmodeset" to the default kernel boot parameters. How can I do this?
[17:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> eek - time for the pub ....l8r all
[17:33] <theadmin> kripton: shift during boot, edit the kernel line
[17:33] <escott> kripton, /etc/default/grub then run update-grub
[17:33] <kripton> theadmin, shift sounds good, I didn't see a grub-select-scren or so at all
[17:33] <tash> RaTTuS|BIG: the bottom line of the pastie ...
[17:33] <kripton> escott, thanks :)
[17:34] <theadmin> kripton: Yeah 'tis hidden by default
[17:34] <Amon-Ra> installation begun...all make wishes to go fine..
[17:34] <tash> RaTTuS|BIG: that is showing up a lot ... and what happens is mysql never starts, it just hangs when I try to upstart it ( start mysql )
[17:35] <tash> and then will finally saystart: Job is already running: mysql, but it really isn't
[17:36] <kripton> escott, worked. perfect. Now let's find out why the X-server doesnt work ...
[17:37] <Amon-Ra> moment of truth..
[17:37] <Amon-Ra> restarting..
[17:37] <jolly91> !lista
[17:38] <webnet> tash, well it shows that it is in your pastie. it has process ids
[17:38] <BarkingFish> kripton: try running the x server from a terminal.  i think startx works on ubuntu, i'm pretty sure it does anyway.
[17:38] <webnet> Amon-Ra, good luck :d
[17:38] <webnet> *:D
[17:38] <Amon-Ra> no luck.. :( it does the same thing,.. it stopped at verifying dmi pool data
[17:38] <webnet> Amon-Ra,
[17:38] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Damn
[17:38] <BarkingFish> Amon-Ra: what's up?
[17:39] <webnet> perhaps using 32 bit is the only option Amon-Ra
[17:39] <Amon-Ra> it seems that after searching cd-rom in installation (no cd-rom and it gives an error) it fails to continue the installation
[17:39] <webnet> ?? Amon-Ra that is strange.
[17:39] <Amon-Ra> as it immediately showed installation completed, restart
[17:40] <webnet> Amon-Ra, wow... that is um... wow. strange...
[17:40] <Amon-Ra> at the 32 bit version after that message it continuedthe installation of grub and languages
[17:40] <Amon-Ra> can i disable the cd rom through bios ? maybe if i disable it may skip that step and the installation finish normally
[17:41] <tightwork> I try to install opennebula-sunstone and I get failure: http://dpaste.com/670890/
[17:41] <tightwork> why
[17:41] <asdds> !list
[17:42] <jolly91> !list
[17:42] <kripton> BarkingFish, it tries to start the X-server then but sais it needs KMS. since I just disabeld it (not working), X doesn't work either :( Damn this uber-new hardware :) Nevertheless, in gentoo with linux-3.1.4 it didn't work eiter ...
[17:42] <tightwork> damn it
[17:42] <tightwork> never ending september in ubuntu world
[17:42] <BarkingFish> !info KMS oneiric > BarkingFish
[17:43] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yeah...idk...  possibly...
[17:43] <webnet> the whole thing is strange
[17:43] <netraameht> Hey, can somebody help me with installing Mono 2.8?
[17:43] <Amon-Ra> webnet: how do i disable it? any idea? :)
[17:43] <kripton> !info KMS oneiric > Kripton
[17:43] <webnet> you would have to probably enter the bios
[17:43] <sam22> hail !
[17:43] <sam22> people of this channel !!
[17:43] <sam22> o/
[17:43] <Amon-Ra> i am in bios
[17:44] <Amon-Ra> and i see it in standard cmos features
[17:44] <webnet> ok what are your options along the top?
[17:44] <netraameht> Hey, can somebody help me with installing Mono 2.8?
[17:44] <kripton> BarkingFish, it works with the vesa driver
[17:44] <webnet> you should have one like boot order or something Amon-Ra
[17:44] <Amon-Ra> standard cmos features , adcanced bios features, integrated peripherals power managemetn, pnp/pci congiruations
[17:44] <BarkingFish> kripton: what card are you trying to use for your graphics?
[17:45] <webnet> netraameht, yeah have you tried the cli commands
[17:45] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes but i believe i have to disable it not only from boot order but not to work at all
[17:45] <kripton> The system has an AMD Llano APU A8-3850 with integrated Radeon HD 6550D
[17:45] <kripton> BarkingFish, The system has an AMD Llano APU A8-3850 with integrated Radeon HD 6550D
[17:45] <sam22> kripton is it a good performer ?
[17:45] <sam22> i have few atoms netbooks and they are awful
[17:46] <webnet> Amon-Ra, is this a laptop you are on?
[17:46] <BarkingFish> kripton: which version of Ubuntu are you trying to use this on?
[17:46] <kripton> sam22, Llano doesnt have to mean "slow" or "atom". This is a Quad-Core with 4x2.9 GHz
[17:46] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes
[17:46] <Amon-Ra> webnet: and i am installing on desktop
[17:46] <kripton> BarkingFish, the latest available. 11.10
[17:46] <sam22> ok my man..
[17:46] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok. can you unplug the sata or ide cable from the disc drive.
[17:47] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i am going to remove the power of cd rom
[17:47] <Amon-Ra> right
[17:47] <kripton> sam22, and about performance: dunno, under gentoo CPU-performance is awesome. Graphics: dunno, dribver not working ...
[17:47] <tightwork> halp my keyboard ez broken wot to dew?
[17:47] <webnet> ok remove the data cable as well, then it wouldnt be an available device Amon-Ra
[17:48] <kripton> BarkingFish, I'll try the fglrx-driver or stay with vesa
[17:48] <martian> On my 11.04 system, apt keeps telling me that nfs-common is being held back from updating even with dist-upgrade. Why would this be?
[17:48] <webnet> netraameht are you still here?
[17:48] <Amon-Ra> i am trying to find the key for the tower :p
[17:49] <BarkingFish> kripton: have you tried editing your boot line?  It's possible that it may work if you use   nomodeset on your boot line
[17:49] <sam22> kripton atom is crap and i think that's why some manufactures will stop making intel atom netbooks
[17:49] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok lol.
[17:50] <kripton> BarkingFish, yes, without nomodeset is default but then screen gets no output at all. no console, no X. SSH is working and the only way to "use" the machine
[17:50] <webnet> sam22, idk that its crap per se, its just old. the technology behind it is good, its just that NOONE has updated it to make it more modern, and at 1.33Ghtz, it needs an upgrade badly
[17:50] <BarkingFish> kripton: so using nomodeset in your boot line does what?
[17:51] <BarkingFish> is that where you get the request for kms?
[17:52] <kripton> BarkingFish, nomodeset makes the text console work but the "ati" (=opensource) driver fail since it cant find KMS
[17:52] <tightwork> ah of course, the latest version is not in ubuntu silly me to think it was
[17:52] <webnet> kripton, what is your issue. i wasnt paying attention at first. sparknotes?
[17:52] <kripton> BarkingFish, gonna try again without "nomodeset" and check Xorg.0.log via SSH
[17:52] <Amon-Ra> cd removed :p
[17:52] <Amon-Ra> let's see..
[17:53] <kripton> web1109, what is sparknotes? I'm trying to get Ubuntu 11.10 running on an AMD Llano APU A8-3850 with integrated Radeon HD 6550D but X doesnt start
[17:53] <webnet> Amon-Ra, good luck :)
[17:53] <BarkingFish> yep, do that, and when you have the xorg log available, kripton - copy it over and paste it up to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:53] <mydoghasworms> Sorry, I asked this and then went away, but is anyone here using Komodo for editing their Rails project?
[17:53] <BarkingFish> remember to put the URL back here though, and we'll take a look
[17:53] <mydoghasworms> Oops, wrong channel.
[17:53] <tightwork> is there a #ubuntu-nonewb ?
[17:53] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[17:53] <Amon-Ra> webnet: thanks...if ubuntu is smart...it will skip this step now as i don't have a cd rom plagged in
[17:53] <tightwork> ah there is now
[17:54] <webnet> kripton, sparknotes is like cliff notes, but its the name of a web site
[17:54] <webnet> Amon-Ra,  :D we can hope. fingers crossed for you1
[17:55] <Amon-Ra> webnet: actually i don't believe that it will work...not many chances..but lets see
[17:55] <webnet> kripton, does it go something like text booting then randomly screen turns off?
[17:56] <netraameht> HEY HOWTO INSTALL MONO 2.8?
[17:56] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yeah im thinking the same but its possible its a glitch about it because of using a usb instead of cd. Oneric if still full of glitches. I always use 2 versions behind at least. I use 10. 10 until precise comes out
[17:56] <kripton> webnet, I see: BIOS -> full-screen colored "ubuntu bg-color" -> screen off
[17:57] <kripton> BarkingFish, Xorg.0.log looks way too normal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765153/
[17:57] <webnet> ok. are you on 11.04 or 11.10? kripton?
[17:57] <BarkingFish> netraameht: firstly, please turn your caps off. You don't need to shout in here, you ask, you wait patiently, we get to you in order.
[17:57] <kripton> BarkingFish, excactly like on Gentoo but screen stays off
[17:57] <netraameht> sorry
[17:57] <kripton> webnet, 11.10
[17:57] <Amon-Ra> webnet: let's see..installation begun..i am very curios
[17:57] <Amon-Ra> curious
[17:57] <kripton> BarkingFish, it even reads the monitor's EDID correctly ..
[17:57] <webnet> netraameht, I asked you and you never responded!
[17:58] <webnet> kripton... laptop?
[17:58] <netraameht> huh?
[17:58] <BarkingFish> [     6.081] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)   << kripton
[17:58] <rhizmoe> is gnome-terminal *supposed* to be kinda "heavy", cpu-wise?
[17:58] <webnet> netraameht, i asked if you had attempted to install yev via software center or CLI?
[17:58] <BarkingFish> kripton: are you sure you're not missing things out of your system?
[17:58] <kripton> webnet, no
[17:58] <webnet> *yet
[17:59] <netraameht> Well, whats yev?
[17:59] <Amon-Ra> scanning the cd rom :/
[17:59] <Amon-Ra> i guess it will stop installation now
[17:59] <kripton> BarkingFish, right, it loads the xserver-xorg-video-ati stuff. The open-source-driver for the card instead of the closed-source one
[17:59] <BarkingFish> KMS is already on, too, kripton.
[17:59] <kripton> BarkingFish, yes, just like it should
[17:59] <webnet> kripton, ok good there is hope then. lol. Its possible that your video driver isnt compatible with the linux kernel 2.6.35. that is what happened to mine :(
[18:00] <webnet> netraameht, sorry typo *yet
[18:00] <kripton> webnet, kernel is "Linux slimbox 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:27:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[18:00] <netraameht> webnet, what do you mean?
[18:00] <p3llin0r3> hey guys, so, i'm trying to set up remote desktop on a remote computer, which I can only currently ssh into. Can I do this through the command line?
[18:00] <kripton> BarkingFish, found something yesterday on some linux-drm mailing list... will have to find it again
[18:00] <webnet> you are on ubuntu yes? netraameht ??
[18:01] <netraameht> webnet, yes
[18:01] <Amon-Ra> webnet: it did the same..after the scannning the cd rom part, it says installation complete...
[18:01] <nemo> So. I'm trying hard to get used to unity - mostly because gnome-shell is crashing once a minute
[18:01] <VIPER-II> hi there
[18:01] <webnet> Amon-Ra, damn, you dont have any cds/dvds?
[18:01] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i clicked continue testing now, not restart and i got a message installer crached
[18:01] <webnet> blank ones?
[18:01] <BarkingFish> kripton, ok then - have another look there. I have to go out in a moment, but I'm sure someone else here will be able to give you a hand.
[18:01] <nemo> I was wondering. is there any way to make the left panel always visible, or at least accessible in some other fashion, like a button?
[18:01] <VIPER-II> Any good File Manager on ubuntu?  Ehh... remote filemanager ofcourse
[18:01] <BarkingFish> I'll have a look round later when I come back, probably be about 4 hours or so.
[18:01] <nemo> basically, I use synergy, so I'm constantly flipping over to the computer on the left when I try to access the panel
[18:01] <jolly91> !addon
[18:02] <nemo> hm. I guess I could just use the search shortcut to access it then unfocus search
[18:02] <webnet> netraameht, ok open the ubuntu software center and try searching MONO
[18:02] <nemo> a bit less convenient though
[18:02] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: you don't want to use VNC ?
[18:02] <nemo> eh. I'll just do that. n/m :)
[18:02] <kripton> BarkingFish, just my problem: https://groups.google.com/group/linux.kernel/browse_thread/thread/2273f97574f2b695
[18:02] <netraameht> webnet, ok, but is it 2.8?
[18:02] <p3llin0r3> yeah
[18:02] <kripton> BarkingFish, nevermind. I'll try fglrx in the meantime
[18:02] <Amon-Ra> webnet: it sas "we're sorry, the installer crashed. After you close this window we'll allow u to file a bug report using the integrated bug reporting tool. this will gather informaiton abut your system and installation process. the details will be sent ot our bug tracker and a developer will attend as soon as possible
[18:02] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, i want to use VNC. BUT, i can't actually get to the comptuer, so I have to set it up over SSH
[18:02] <paula__> hey guys is there a way i can replicate the transition effect he had using Impress? http://vimeo.com/31258377
[18:03] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu so I have to use command line stuff to do it
[18:03] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i got the report
[18:03] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: can you X Forwarding ?
[18:03] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok fill out the report... you may have to use 32 bit for now... let me give you an email address where you can contact the devs of ubuntu, and let them know what happened... :(
[18:03] <BarkingFish> ok kripton, I'll be back later, or if I miss you, I hope you get sorted out.
[18:03] <BarkingFish> See you guys later
[18:04] <webnet> netraameht, possible, it should tell you. if you want to be sure, try using the terminal to install instead
[18:04] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, explain please, i've never heard of it.
[18:04] <tightwork> wow just wow
[18:04] <Amon-Ra> very weird issue..
[18:04] <tightwork> brand new install and straight from the repos, what is to be stable packages are horrible broken
[18:04] <webnet> netraameht, something like sudo apt-get install mono-2.8
[18:04] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: the command ssh -X  can let you graphical application
[18:04] <netraameht> webnet, ok, ill try
[18:04] <tightwork> Do you guys do ANY? QC/QA?
[18:05] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: the command ssh -X  can let you use graphical applications
[18:05] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, allow me to try. I have tried that htough.
[18:05] <webnet> ok if it gives you an error let me know and ill let you know how to add the repo netraameht
[18:05] <netraameht> webnet, im already on the root account
[18:05] <llutz> tightwork: Do you have any ubuntu support related question? ranting/whining at #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[18:06] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, ok, so I ran the command, and now I am simply in normal ssh, no gui
[18:06] <netraameht> webnet:
[18:06] <netraameht> root@netraameht:~# sudo apt-get install mono-2.8
[18:06] <netraameht> Reading package lists... Done
[18:06] <netraameht> Building dependency tree
[18:06] <netraameht> Reading state information... Done
[18:06] <netraameht> E: Unable to locate package mono-2.8
[18:06] <FloodBot1> netraameht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <tightwork> llutz: sure I do
[18:06] <webnet> Amon-Ra, agreed. if i had to make a guess as to the issues cause, id have to say that it is looking for a CD because its coded to look for /mnt/cdrom/bla/bla/bla instead of ~/bla/bla/bla/
[18:06] <webnet> exacr paths insted of relative ones Amon-Ra
[18:06] <webnet> *exact
[18:06] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: have you the possibility  to edit the sshd_config and ssh_config files  ?
[18:07] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: on both pc
[18:07] <Amon-Ra> webnet: this is not something that i can fix
[18:07] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, yes.
[18:08]  * Fvcker help
[18:08] <mangguo> who know how to use this system
[18:08] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: are you on the client or on the server ?
[18:08] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, but I would rather avoid it.
[18:08] <netraameht> webnet, http://paste.apocacast.net/index.php?show=4
[18:08] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, ah, my boss's son is at home. I'll just have him do it. I was hoping for an easy fix.
[18:08] <mangguo> how to type Chinese in this system
[18:08] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, I am on the client.
[18:09] <mangguo> hey hey
[18:09] <shudacr> hey hey!
[18:09] <sam22> hail !
[18:09] <mangguo> does somebody help me?
[18:09] <mangguo> who can help me
[18:09] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: what exactly do you wanna do ?
[18:09] <Barbariandude> mangguo, Hit start, type in 'Keyboard layout'
[18:09] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, remote in so I can develop
[18:09] <Barbariandude> Then add chinese
[18:10] <mangguo> i want to write Chinese
[18:10] <mangguo> in this system
[18:10] <sam22> yeah simple problem
[18:10] <sam22> mang0
[18:10] <sam22> mangguo
[18:10] <sam22> he told you
[18:10] <sam22> Barbariandude
[18:10] <mang0> sam22: ?
[18:10] <sskalnik> mangguo:  read what Barbariandude typed
[18:10] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: using gui interfaces ?
[18:10] <mangguo> did i need to download something
[18:10] <Barbariandude> no
[18:10] <mangguo> but how
[18:10] <sam22> add another keyboard supported language is easier on ubuntu than windows
[18:11] <sskalnik> mangguo:  which version of Ubuntu are you using? And are you using the command line or a gui?
[18:11] <Barbariandude> mangguo, What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:11] <netraameht> webnet, http://paste.apocacast.net/index.php?show=4
[18:11] <mangguo> it seem that there is nothing that i can use to write something in chinese
[18:12] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: using gui interfaces or simple command line ?
[18:12] <Barbariandude> mangguo, If you're on 11.10 you just add chinese to the list of keyboard options under 'keyboard layout'
[18:12] <p3llin0r3> pikaciu, I want gvim. and to not have to upload and download constantly. i actually figured it out. Thanks for the help, I really appriciate it
[18:12] <lupine313> Supposing someone can help me out with an issue I have installing the latest version of tshark (1.6.3) to JeOS 8.04?  When I do a 'sudo apt-get install tshark', I end up with tshark 1.0.0
[18:12] <mangguo> o
[18:12] <webnet> netraameht, ok use the commands here http://paste.apocacast.net/index.php?show=5 . you can copy the entire thing and the go to terminal and press: shipt+Ins
[18:13] <mangguo> thank you
[18:13] <pikaciu> p3llin0r3: ok
[18:13] <gaurav_ashtikar> hello, i want some pdf to built deb packages, i searched  on google bt not found...:(
[18:13] <Barbariandude> mangguo,  my pleasure
[18:13] <mangguo> i finally solve
[18:13] <mangguo> it
[18:13] <sskalnik>  lupine313 that probably is the latest version for 8.04
[18:13] <netraameht> webnet, thats the code that i tried before, at the end it get some make errors
[18:13] <mangguo> and
[18:13] <mangguo> another question
[18:14] <sam22> mangguo we are happy for you
[18:14] <mangguo> where am i
[18:14] <lupine313> sskalnik: How would I check that?  Is there a newer version of JeOS that might support a later version of tshark?
[18:14] <webnet> netraameht, what were the errors
[18:14] <sam22> where are you ?
[18:14] <mangguo> i am in Chinese
[18:14] <sskalnik> lupine313:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/tshark
[18:14] <mangguo> china
[18:14] <sam22> yeah you are in china
[18:14] <sam22> yes
[18:15] <mangguo> e
[18:15] <webnet> netraameht, try again and apocopaste the errors
[18:15] <pikaciu> niao
[18:15] <sam22> you are in guangdong
[18:15] <sam22> Beijing
[18:15] <sam22> right ?
[18:15] <mangguo> what i want to know maybe is what does this system used for
[18:16] <webnet> sam22 creepy??? O.o lol
[18:16] <ypahnu> hi all
[18:16] <pikaciu> for everything
[18:16] <mangguo> for everything>
[18:16] <mangguo> ?
[18:16] <mangguo> to communicate
[18:16] <sam22> mangguo i use linux because i don't want to pay microsoft money
[18:16] <pikaciu> to fly on the freedom wings
[18:16] <mangguo> to make friends?
[18:16] <lupine313> sskalnik:  Thanks for the link - I'm not familiar with launchpad, but looking into it now - that def answers my first question.  I'll look into this to see if I can find a package repository for 'X' linux distro with a later version of tshark.
[18:16] <sskalnik> lupine313:  It seems that 8.04 is the latest JeOS
[18:17]  * Fvcker hai all
[18:17] <sskalnik> lupine313:  you could possibly install tshark from source
[18:17] <Barbariandude> mangguo, making friends is a nice side-effect of using an OS all about community
[18:17] <sam22> mangguo ubuntu is like apple and like microsoft windows
[18:17] <sam22> apple OSX
[18:17] <mangguo> or something like qq or msn
[18:17] <sam22> it will do whatever you want
[18:17] <lupine313> sskalnik:  I've been trying for a bit, there are so many dependencies that are coming up with errors
[18:18] <netraameht> webnet, i will do the install again
[18:18] <Amon-Ra> webnet: do i miss big speed difference missing 64bit version ?
[18:18] <sskalnik> lupine313:  another option might be going with a newer version of Ubuntu. Why JeOS?
[18:19] <shudacr> GENTOOOOO
[18:19] <lupine313> It's going on ESX, and I want a tight install since bandwidth is a bit of an issue when it comes to moving the VM around
[18:19] <sskalnik> Amon-Ra:  probably no noticeable speed difference
[18:19] <webnet> Amon-Ra, no not really. you would miss 1 gb of ram, but on linux you dont really need that much short of a server...
[18:19] <lupine313> I guess I could do Ubuntu Server and remove packages?
[18:19] <mangguo> hey , could i ask where are you from
[18:19] <Amon-Ra> wenet oh so it will recognize 3 out of 4
[18:20] <Amon-Ra> webnet: :/
[18:20] <mangguo> maybe all in China?
[18:20] <sam22> i'm from middle east
[18:20] <sam22> near saudia arabia
[18:20] <Barbariandude> UK + Romania
[18:20] <jolly91> italiani????
[18:20] <pikaciu> pika
[18:20] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yes. 32 bit can only use 2.99 gb of ram. 64 bit i believe can use 15.99 gb of ram
[18:21] <Amon-Ra> i am going to install 32 bit version for now..
[18:21] <netraameht> webnet,  http://paste.apocacast.net/index.php?show=6
[18:21] <mangguo> oh,and it is morning now
[18:21] <Amon-Ra> thanks a lot for helping
[18:21] <mangguo> ?
[18:21] <drewis> i thought 64 could go up to hundreds of TB
[18:21] <mongy> !pae | webnet  Amon-Ra
[18:21] <The_BROS> Are there Nexuis players here? I create server map, but people can't see it on server list. What's the problem?
[18:21] <Barbariandude> lol no drewis
[18:22] <mangguo> maybe this is a place to communicate about the technology
[18:22] <Amon-Ra> ubottu: thanks!
[18:22] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok yeah sadly that seems like the only choise until they fix that bug. you might try the 10.10 or 11.04 install cd to see if the issue is still there.
[18:22] <webnet> wow ubottu i didnt realize that
[18:22] <sskalnik> webnet:  Why would he miss 1GB of RAM?
[18:22] <webnet> i know ur a bot but still
[18:22] <georgia> i am having problems with flash framerates on my netbook esp with hulu.com any advice?
[18:23] <Amon-Ra> webnet: if i install 11.04 64bit and it installs normally, can i uprade then inside ubuntu to 11.10 ?
[18:23] <webnet> sskalnik, 32 bit can only use  around 3 gb of ram without a pae enabled kernel
[18:23] <morris4> hm in firefox, flash videos lose framerate increasingly while watching. whats happening?
[18:24] <llutz> drewis: it is, 2^48bit per process (slightly more than 16GB..)
[18:24] <sskalnik> webnet:  I thought that it could use 32^2 minus a little overhead and whatever memory the video card has.
[18:24] <Barbariandude> Amon-Ra, Not really. You'd be better off going straight to 11.10
[18:24] <webnet> Amon-Ra, yes but dont use the auto update system to upgrade from the gui. It installs a newer kernel, and you should NEVER install a kernel while in an x session
[18:24] <sskalnik> Amon-Ra:  better to go with a fresh install than an upgrade if you can
[18:24] <Barbariandude> webnet, really? THAT explains why it killed my install
[18:25] <webnet> sskalnik, ? 32^2?
[18:25] <jolly91> download????
[18:25] <sskalnik> webnet:  2^32
[18:25] <Amon-Ra> sskalnik: Barbariandude i can't go straight to 11.10 installation crash after "scanning for cd-rom" during installation process
[18:25] <Pici> !it | jolly91
[18:25] <jolly91> !it
[18:25] <Barbariandude> Amon-Ra, tried USB install?
[18:26] <webnet> Barbariandude, YES! i know. i like to frequent the ubuntu forums as well as linux questions forums, i cannot tell you how many people KILL their install that way.
[18:26] <sskalnik> Amon-Ra:  tried USB install?
[18:26] <netraameht> webnet,  http://paste.apocacast.net/index.php?show=6
[18:26] <Amon-Ra> Barbariandude: sskalnik i am doing the installation with USB install, but it scans the cd-rom during the process
[18:26] <Pici> webnet: Thats ridiculous. You can definitely install a newer kernel while in a graphical session,.
[18:26] <Barbariandude> weird...
[18:27] <webnet> Barbariandude, I have sent countless emails to the ubuntu devsabout it, but they leave it in there. they should reboot and upgrade the kernel before x starts... :/
[18:27] <webnet> Pici You can, but the odds of your system crashing are way higher
[18:27] <Pici> webnet: no.
[18:27] <Amon-Ra> Barbariandude: sskalnik 32bit version is installing normally
[18:27] <webnet> Pici, how so?
[18:27] <sam22> what's the best way to remove ubuntu packages and it's dependencies ?
[18:27] <sskalnik> webnet:  You can upgrade and even patch the kernel in a gui... or do you mean something like hot swap in a new kernel
[18:27] <Barbariandude> Pici, happened to me, and it bricked my install completely
[18:27] <webnet> sam22 apt-get remove [package]
[18:28] <pikaciu> sam22: synaptic
[18:28] <sam22> webnet and that won't lwave anything?
[18:28] <Pici> webnet: Because the new kernel does not go into effect until you reboot. We do not use anything like ksplice currently.
[18:28] <Pici> sam22: you can use apt-get purge packagename if you want it to remove all the system configs as well.
[18:28] <Barbariandude> sam22, sudo apt-get remove --purge (package)
[18:28] <webnet> sskalnik, im talking about the upgradeing to a new version from the graphical update manager
[18:29] <sam22> ok
[18:29] <sam22> thanks Barbariandude
[18:29] <sskalnik> webnet:  As in using synaptic to install new kernels?
[18:29] <sskalnik> webnet:  Maybe we are talking about different things
[18:29] <Pici> webnet: There is no difference to the way that Ubuntu installs things when using the software center, or synaptic, or apt-get
[18:29] <webnet> Pici, then i think there is some sort of bug in the system, because a good majority of people kill their installs that way.
[18:29] <Amon-Ra> i will try 11.04 option
[18:29] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok
[18:31] <sskalnik> webnet:  Correlation != causation. The new kernel doesn't load until a reboot, so there shouldn't be any connection there.
[18:31] <webnet> Pici, then what causes the systems to crash when using the gui update manager. I was always taught in college that running an x server while update a kernel causes the x server to be rendered not sane anymore, as well as may running packages to become corrupted
[18:32] <sskalnik> webnet:  That surely cannot be the case, otherwise most distros with a GUI installed would self-destruct as a matter of course.
[18:32] <OerHeks> never had a x crash while updating a kernel.
[18:34] <webnet> sskalnik, however most other distros ie red hat, suse, etc update everything else  then reboot and install the new kernel and reboot again without x running
[18:34] <Pici> ~webnet: The currently running kernel is not replaced when you do a kernel upgrade, only after a reboot does it start.  Also nowadays with dkms your third party kernel modules will be recompiled at kernel install time and will save you that headache. There are still many things that do not go through that though.  In the past I've seen a lot of people lose their wireless on a reboot after a kernel update because they did some manual ...
[18:34] <Pici> ... steps to get them to work.
[18:35] <sskalnik> webnet:  I think you are talking about switching out the running kernel - a hot swap type of operation - not a normal upgrade
[18:36] <Barbariandude> I'm guessing hot swaps are mainly used for high-availability servers?
[18:36] <christoph_debian> hi! anyone aware of any idea on how to get a working conkeror with acceptable conditions (like not building another copy of firefox) on ubuntu? I could build the xulapp that is conkeror from the debian package but there doesn't seem to be any xulrunner available in ubuntu
[18:36] <Amon-Ra> sskalnik: so you believe if i install 11.04 i will be able to upgrade inside ubuntu to 11.10 (if it is installed)
[18:36] <sskalnik> Barbariandude:  mainly not used at all if one can help it. I have done it before but cannot recommend it.
[18:37] <sskalnik> Barbariandude:  ksplice or load balancing to another server while you reboot is probably better.
[18:37] <sskalnik> Amon-Ra:  yes
[18:38] <Rushing> how do i run an app without locking the terminal?
[18:38] <webnet> Pici interesting. any clue what causes so many of the upgrades to fail and become unusable? it has to be something else then. i always assumed it hot swapped the kernel before reboot which is what caused the problem... it usualy happens between 10.10 and 11.X i assumed it was the kernel as 10.x uses 2.6.35 and 11.X uses 2.6.38
[18:38] <Amon-Ra> sskalnik: the bug i have in 11.10 is very strange..i hope it will work the 11.04 installation
[18:38] <rhizmoe> how do i prevent shotwell from starting when I plug my phone into usb?
[18:38] <Rushing> just sits there with the cursor and i can't type run any commands...
[18:38] <sskalnik> webnet:  It could be a number of unrelated issues
[18:38] <rhizmoe> i've been asking for weeks now
[18:38] <webnet> sskalnik, ok.
[18:38] <Barbariandude> webnet, my bricking happened between 11.04 and 11.10
[18:38] <escott> Rushing, "command &" runs in the background, you can then fg the job to bring it to the foreground. you can ctrl-z suspend a running job and then bg it
[18:39] <rhizmoe> escott: i'm pretty sure fg doesn't touch forked processes
[18:39] <rhizmoe> only suspended (^z) ones
[18:41] <escott> rhizmoe, with bash fg absolutely does bring a running task to the foreground. try it sleep 20 &; fg
[18:41] <llutz> rhizmoe: using bash, ry: "top &"  "jobs" "fg 1"
[18:42] <airtonix> sskalnik: "mainly not used at all if one can help it. " <<< why?
[18:42] <escott> Rushing, this feature of the shell is called job control so see the bash manual for "job control" for some of the other features (like selecting which job to bring to the foreground)
[18:42] <sskalnik> airtonix:  it's like changing the engine in a running car.
[18:43] <airtonix> sskalnik: but if you have raid then...
[18:43] <webnet> netraameht, u still here?
[18:44] <sskalnik> airtonix:  wouldn't matter with RAID at all. RAID is data at rest. The kernel *is* the OS, so changing it out is hard to do - and even if it works something could break in the process
[18:45] <airtonix> sskalnik: obviously it's easy to put non OS data into a raid setup and keep the two sepearate... so again i ask why is hotswap and raid bad ?
[18:45] <airtonix> sskalnik: beccause to me it just makes sense to pu all your raid drives into hotswap bays
[18:45] <sskalnik> airtonix:  I never said hot swapping drives and RAID was bad
[18:46] <sskalnik> airtonix:  I said that trying to hot swap the running kernel was a bad idea
[18:46] <blackbit> a simple question about unity 3d usage. When I click on an icon to view a minimized app, how can I re-minimize it again without having to press the _ key near X ?
[18:46] <sskalnik> airtonix:  Obviously hot swappable drive bays are essential for a RAID
[18:46] <airtonix> hotswaping a running kernel was never the point of the discussion
[18:47] <Stepnjump> Hi guys, anyone tried nautilus elementary?
[18:47] <webnet> airtonix, actually it was
[18:47] <sskalnik> airtonix:  please scroll up and re-read. The discussion was about swapping the kernel
[18:47] <llutz> airtonix: [19:35:01] <sskalnik> webnet:  I think you are talking about switching out the running kernel - a hot swap type of operation
[18:47] <LemonAid> Hello. Is it safe to disable Zeitgeist Datahub if i use Unity? From what i understand it's a log service, witch i do not need at the moment.
[18:47] <sskalnik> thx, llutz
[18:48] <webnet> airtonix, we were talking about hot swapping kernels causing linux to brick up and become unusable
[18:48] <webnet> Stepnjump, nope. never heard of it
[18:49] <webnet> thnk you llutz
[18:49] <Stepnjump> webnet http://community.linuxmint.com/idea/view/1866 supposedly it gives us the ability to preview files
[18:49] <Stepnjump> preview pane
[18:49] <Ruff> what other protocol can i use other than TCP/IP  to do  just  LAN filesharing in ubuntu:   if anybody has answer:  big reward
[18:50] <webnet> Stepnjump, hmm. interesting. standard nautilus comes with the ability to preview suck things as audio files, what does elementary allow beyond that?
[18:50] <airtonix> Stepnjump: the comment isn't referring to a pane...
[18:50] <webnet> Ruff um ftp perhaps?
[18:50] <Ruff> ftp is tcp/ip
[18:50] <Stepnjump> airtonix, what do you mean?
[18:50] <pikaciu> Ruff: scp
[18:51] <Ruff> scp is tcp/ip
[18:51] <pikaciu> :8
[18:51] <webnet> Ruff yes, but why wouldnt you want tcp/ip
[18:51] <webnet> ???
[18:51] <airtonix> Stepnjump: i mean the last comment there about the ppa is a poor comment made as a result of what i just did before... not reading the original discussion properly.
[18:51] <Amon-Ra> installation of 11.04 started..let's see guys
[18:51] <Ruff> webnet it's my question; please don't change my question
[18:51] <Stepnjump> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/nautilus-elementary-simplified-nautilus.html webnet
[18:51] <jolly91> !list
[18:51] <Stepnjump> oh yes I know airtonix
[18:52] <webnet> Ruff, im not im simply asking why you wouldnt want to use tcp/ip, that is the technology standard...
[18:52] <sskalnik> Ruff:  heh, there is always Appletalk
[18:52] <maria2> Hey Guys. Iwe got a problem with Natty. Apps dont show up next to the menu in the bar
[18:52] <airtonix> Stepnjump: so you won't find any kind of nautilus with a preview pane... you will however find something called gnome-sushi
[18:52] <Ruff> sskalnik  can i install appletalk on ubuntu or windows?
[18:52] <maria2> Any idea what the problem could be
[18:52] <Zegrento7> Hi! Can anyone tell me does Ubuntu 10.04 support the HP B010a printer?
[18:53] <webnet> Zegrento7, it should.
[18:53] <sskalnik> Ruff:  Netatalk, the FOSS equivalent, should
[18:53] <Zegrento7> Ok, thanks! We're about to buy one :)
[18:53] <webnet> if not you can get the drivers rather easily hp is good about that
[18:53] <sskalnik> Ruff:  But I am curious as to why you want to avoid TCP/IP
[18:53] <OerHeks> Zegrento7, check open printing database to be sure
[18:53] <webnet> ^^ i asked that before
[18:53] <Ruff> sskalnik i have my reasons, that i don't want to get into it
[18:54] <webnet> Ruff, thats all i wanted to know.
[18:54] <maria2> Guys- My apps dont show in the bottom panel. what could be wrong ?
[18:54] <webnet> Zegrento7, i have an hp and it worked fine, the scanner i needed the software for, but hp has a linux version for most everything
[18:54] <sskalnik> Ruff: Just asking in case there might be a better solution that trying weird transmission protocols
[18:55] <Ruff> sskalnik because i am using tcpip for internet
[18:55] <sskalnik> Ruff:  there's basically OSI and Appletalk
[18:55] <fishscene> Is there a profile creator for Unity similar to Sabayon for Gnome? http://live.gnome.org/Sabayon
[18:55] <sskalnik> Ruff:  You could use TCP/IP for lots of stuff at once though
[18:55] <Amon-Ra> webnet: sskalnik it seems that installation works now! at 64 bit 11.04
[18:55] <webnet> Ruff, you can use tcp/ip for internet and ftp and and and. its not a one use only protocol
[18:55] <Ruff> sskalnik can i install OSI/appletalk on other OS
[18:55] <sskalnik> Amon-Ra:  Woot! Glad it works for you
[18:56] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Good God!
[18:56] <webnet> *good good
[18:56] <sskalnik> Ruff:  Yes but you probably do not really want to do that.
[18:56] <bregma> Ruff, install the netatalk package
[18:56] <Zegrento7> webnet, good to hear! :D Thanks again!
[18:56] <sskalnik> Ruff:  what is your exact situation? There is probably a better solution.
[18:56] <webnet> Zegrento7, No problem! :)
[18:56] <Amon-Ra> sskalnik: webnet yes it proceed normally...one question, should i manually enter partitions and swap to 8.5 GB ? i did the typical install (3rd option), is it fine?
[18:56] <Ruff> bregma can i install netatalk on windows/mac
[18:56] <maria2> Hope i put this in the right terms > minimised apps don't show on panel. And i cant add a splitter line to the panel either
[18:57] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Yeaaaa. id say just leave it.
[18:57] <sskalnik> Amon-Ra:  typical is usually fine for a desktop.
[18:57] <theadmin> maria2: Which panel?
[18:57] <sskalnik> Ruff:  Netatalk is only for UNIX-liked
[18:57] <Amon-Ra> webnet: sskalnik thanks a lot guys :) i am happy finally... :) i will try to upgrade after installation finish
[18:57] <maria2> theadmin > The bottom panel where the menu is
[18:57] <Ricklee> Ok so I need.some help I installed ubuntu on my pc but when I restart it does not boot
[18:57] <sam22> anyone in here using bootup manager ?
[18:57] <HILLMOKS> HI
[18:57] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Alright! :D glad its working
[18:57] <sam22> HILLMOKS hail !
[18:58] <michaeljwjr> ok so i've gotten bastion to at least get to the loading screen in Chrome (had to use chrome not chromium) but it won't download anything, it just sits there.
[18:58] <theadmin> maria2: Bah... WHICH panel? What's the program? xfce4-panel? lxpanel? fbpanel? tint2? gnome-panel?
[18:58] <maria2> gnome
[18:58] <webnet> Ricklee, More info plz. errors? black screen? etc etc
[18:58] <Amon-Ra> webnet: after so many tries i deserve to be happy :D
[18:58] <theadmin> maria2: Oh um... I suggest you stop using that... gnome is not cool.
[18:58] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Agreed :D
[18:58] <theadmin> Blergh, I'd rather use KDE than Gnome :/
[18:59] <Amon-Ra> by the way here is the best support ever seen in any product...thank you all
[18:59] <maria2> theadmin: Not an option atm.
[18:59] <webnet> theadmin, hey what do you mean gnome isnt cool?
[18:59] <Zegrento7> Bye!
[18:59] <webnet> Amon-Ra, No problem!
[18:59] <theadmin> webnet: it just ain't. Gnome 2 was pretty much close to being perfect for me but... gnome3 ruined everything they could ruin
[18:59] <Ricklee> No errors just gets to the point where it should boot but just has a blinking key
[18:59] <maria2> I think kde sucks design wise. Matter of taste- Cant just get my head around why my apps dont show.
[18:59] <theadmin> maria2: I think it's gnome3's fault, not sure how to configure it
[18:59] <Ricklee> I don't think grub installed
[18:59] <maria2> theadmin > I agree G3 sucks and should be relaesed yet
[19:00] <theadmin> maria2: Try XFCE, which is similar to gnome2...
[19:00] <theadmin> maria2: Very similar, as a matter of fact
[19:00] <webnet> theadmin, ohhhhh ok yeah i hated gnome 3 i only use gnome 2... i thought you were just hating on gnome in general. lol. 3 is super buggy too.. :(
[19:00] <maria2> Yeah i know XFCE- But this is not my computer, just trying to fix it-
[19:00] <webnet> theadmin, why dont we just have her downgrade to gnome 2?
[19:01] <theadmin> webnet: It ain't in the repos...?
[19:01] <theadmin> webnet: I mean, we haz mate but that's broken IIRC
[19:01] <webnet> you can add it tho thats what i did?
[19:01] <pikaciu> i never did a downgrade ... how it woks ?
[19:01] <Ricklee> Webnet what do you think?
[19:01] <bj_penn> im trying to set up networking in ubuntu. I set up the /etc/network/interfaces to take an IP of the subnet 192.168.44.198 on mask 255.255.255.0, but i cant ping any other 192.168.44.*, or ping this server from any servers in the same network. anyone have any ideas?i cant seem to get a xen server VM to connect to the network. It's a ubuntu VM and I set the IP information in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:01] <bj_penn> and restarted the server, and also checked ifup eth0, and still can't ping anything in it's subnet. anyone know what else i can check to troubleshoot this? Are there any settings in the hypervisor i should check? i know for VMware workstation, i need to set it to Bridge, instead of NAT for it to work
[19:01] <theadmin> pikaciu: It works like "pacman -Rcn package && (add repo here) && pacman -S package"
[19:02] <pikaciu> thanx
[19:02] <theadmin> Woah now
[19:02] <Amon-Ra> guys how can i confirm that i've installed the 64bit version ?
[19:02] <theadmin> ...I thought I'm in #archlinux lol
[19:02] <Amon-Ra> in ubuntu
[19:02] <theadmin> pikaciu: apt-get remove package && add-apt-repository 'whatever' && apt-get install package # lol
[19:02] <roothorick> so, is there any real support for authentication via thumbprint? fprint_demo works with my reader, but how do I take the step of actually logging in with it?
[19:02] <theadmin> Amon-Ra: uname
[19:02] <econdude1wesome> Howdy all! Anyone know how to set up google's two-step authorization with bitlbee?
[19:03] <Amon-Ra> theadmin: in console?
[19:03] <theadmin> Amon-Ra: Yeah, actually, "uname -m" is the proper way iirc
[19:03] <Ricklee> Anyone know how to install grub if it didn't install correctly during installation?
[19:03] <theadmin> Ricklee: grub-install /dev/sdx
[19:04] <webnet> Ricklee, sorry got caught up in another convo. lol. what version of ubuntu 11.10 and 64 bit?
[19:04] <Amon-Ra> by the way upgrade to 11.10 automatically
[19:04] <theadmin> !restoregrub | Ricklee
[19:05] <webnet> ok so if you want to install gnome 2... be careful, this could skrew up the system...
[19:05] <webnet> badly
[19:05] <Ricklee> Installing ubuntu 32 bit on a fresh had
[19:05] <webnet> 11.10?
[19:05] <webnet> Ricklee, ^^
[19:05] <Ricklee> Yea
[19:05] <XeonBloomfield> Where I can define "DPkg::Post-Install"?
[19:05] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes when i first loaded ubuntu it started the update automatically to the new distribution 11.10, so it upgrades now
[19:06] <sam22> gnome 3 is awful
[19:06] <XeonBloomfield> Where can I define "DPkg::Post-Invoke"?
[19:06] <Ricklee> I've trued installing it 4didn't times and it never boots
[19:06] <tyler> Question: (Status: Noob)  I'm trying to find a working tutorial to use samba to link my windows 7 and ubuntu for file sharing.  Does anyone know where I can  find one?
[19:06] <Ricklee> Tried*
[19:07] <Pici> XeonBloomfield: Are they not ion libdpkg-perl?
[19:07] <diesch> XeonBloomfield: create a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[19:07] <Pici> XeonBloomfield: err.. I misread your question, listen to diesch.
[19:07] <pikaciu> tyler: man samba
[19:08] <XeonBloomfield> diesch: To execute 2 command I need to declare 2 different DPkg:Post-Invoke or 1?
[19:08] <tyler> pikaciu, ???
[19:08] <Ricklee> I can boot into ubuntu via live cd but I don't know how to get it to boot what I've already installed
[19:08] <theadmin> webnet: mind pm?
[19:08] <pikaciu> tyler: you can use the samba manual
[19:09] <sam22> Ricklee is ubuntu the only OS installed ?
[19:09] <tyler> pikaciu, I tried that.  You mean the help correct?  I also followed various tutorials  None of them have worked
[19:09] <christoph_debian> hi! anyone aware of any idea on how to get a working conkeror with acceptable conditions (like not building another copy of firefox) on ubuntu? I could build the xulapp that is conkeror from the debian package but there doesn't seem to be any xulrunner available in ubuntu
[19:09] <pikaciu> tyler: samba doesn't work ?
[19:10] <Ricklee> Yes all I have is ubuntu installed
[19:10] <tyler> pikaciu, Its not working for me. I mean it starts and i can do everything  but the link has not been created
[19:10] <Stepnjump> By doing a apt-get dist-upgrade, will that upgrade me to version 11.10? I want to stay with 11.04 cuz I don't like unity
[19:11] <pikaciu> tyler: have you edited smb.conf ?
[19:11] <diesch> XeonBloomfield: one. It takes a list of commands
[19:11] <sskalnik> Stepnjump:  it only upgrades packages, not the whole OS
[19:11] <XeonBloomfield> diesch: "DPkg:Post-Invoke {"echo Running prelink, please wait...;/etc/cron.daily/prelink";};" will work or no?
[19:11] <tyler> pikaciu, no.  I'm noob so I don't know what that is
[19:12] <Ricklee> Any ideas? Im going crazy
[19:12] <pikaciu> tyler: it's the main file configuration for samba
[19:12] <Stepnjump> thanks sskalnik
[19:12] <roothorick> the screen face buttons on my HP Pavilion tx2000 don't seem to report any keycodes. Anyone have any ideas how I could make them usable?
[19:12] <sskalnik> Stepnjump:  np
[19:12] <pikaciu> tyler: cd /etc/samba and ls
[19:12] <nodestool> what is apt-add-repository in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:12] <nodestool> for adding ppa?
[19:13] <diesch> XeonBloomfield:  DPkg:Post-Invoke {"echo Running prelink, please wait...";"/etc/cron.daily/prelink";};
[19:13] <Ricklee> Can some help me?
[19:14] <XeonBloomfield> diesch: thank you
[19:14] <Pici> nodestool: It can be, the manpage describes its use (add-apt-repository is true name of the binary)
[19:14] <ghabit> Ricklee, with what?
[19:14] <donavan01> OK I tried installing the classic gnome instead of the new junk launcher that comes with 11.10 but now I have no shortcut to the terminal and I can figure out how to get back to a command prompt
[19:15] <donavan01> oh using server version
[19:15] <Pici> divya__: Please pick a nick and stick with it, or part this channel before continuing.
[19:15] <Ricklee> I installed ubuntu on a new had (version 11.10 32 bit) and when I finish install ,restart nothing boots
[19:15] <Ricklee> Hdd *
[19:16] <Amon-Ra> Ricklee: did u observe if it stops when it scans for cd-rom during installation ? actually if it says that installation completed immediately after
[19:17] <nodestool> Pici: i don't see it, man -k, which and apt-cache search all tuern up blank
[19:17] <genewitch> on 11.10 i used users and groups to add another account and now i can't log in to it, it just cycles back to the login screen.
[19:18] <Ricklee> Didn't see I have tried to install  4 times now with 3 different cds
[19:18] <Pici> nodestool: Is the python-software-properties package installed?
[19:18] <Amon-Ra> i hade  the same symptoms with 64 bit version
[19:18] <nodestool> Pici: no
[19:19] <Pici> nodestool: That package provides the add-apt-repository tool.
[19:19] <Amon-Ra> Ricklee: re-install and check if during installation where it display the information (copying, installing etc) if it says "scanning cd-rom" and if the installation completes immediately after
[19:19] <nodestool> Pici: thanks!
[19:19] <Ricklee> Ok one sec
[19:20] <sam22> Ricklee is it a new computer ?
[19:20] <Amon-Ra> Ricklee: if it completes immediately after we faced the same issue...because the installations has more steps to do after "scanning cd-rom"
[19:21] <Ricklee> How do I fix it?
[19:21] <Ricklee> And no its not a new comp
[19:21] <Amon-Ra> i just installed 11.04 , 64 bit which installed normally, and now i upgrade to 11.10
[19:22] <Ricklee> I've had ubuntu bunch installed on this same comp bfore with no errors
[19:22] <Wolfsherz> can someone tell me how to update perl to 5.14 in ubuntu?
[19:22] <Amon-Ra> in case that it the same issue..but i had the same symptoms with your case
[19:25] <Ricklee> Amon-Ra what should I do if it is the cd rom error
[19:26] <NOSaturn> i am trying out figure out how to diagnose my system crashes. Mouse moves, but nothing responds and i have to turn off computer. most often happens when i hit the "Activities" in gnome 3 on unbuntu 11.10
[19:26] <NOSaturn> any direction or websites i should read (google searches give me alot of stuff that is old)
[19:26] <genewitch> on 11.10 i used users and groups to add another account and now i can't log in to it, it just cycles back to the login screen. Any tips?
[19:27] <nodestool> genewitch: what happens when you try to login?
[19:27] <Ricklee> I installed ubuntu on a new had (version 11.10 32 bit) and when I finish install ,restart nothing boots
[19:27] <Ricklee> Anyone help me
[19:27] <nodestool> Ricklee: did the live CD work?
[19:27] <nodestool> Ricklee: did you duel boot or just one os?
[19:28] <Ricklee> One os
[19:28] <nodestool> are you sure the bios is trying to boot from the hdd instead of the CD/USB ?
[19:28] <Ricklee> Yes bios is set to the Hdd I installed ubuntu on
[19:28] <donavan01> I did   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start   Which I guess causes gdm to start automatically ... how to I stop it Im stuck with no access to a command line
[19:29] <nodestool> maybe sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:30] <nodestool> Ricklee: and you don't get a grub prompt?
[19:30] <Barbariandude> donavan01, hit ctrl+alt+F5 to get to command prompt, then ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to graphical interface
[19:30] <donavan01> yeah tried that one .... no it give me a boot options but then no command prompt
[19:31] <Ricklee> No no grub
[19:31] <Ricklee> And I think that's the issue
[19:31] <donavan01> barbariandude ... thank you I knew there was a way to get that but I could remember what it was
[19:31] <Ricklee> The installation didn't install grub but I don't know
[19:31] <donavan01> ricklee yeah I get grub ... sorry
[19:32] <nodestool> Ricklee: not sure how to get grub installed/running
[19:32] <Ricklee> I dint know ether lol
[19:32] <genewitch> nodestool: when i try to login the screen goes black, then i see a mouse cursor, then it goes back to the user login screen
[19:33] <gabe_> hello guys... I need help with bittorrent client please. It does not download anything for some reason, it just stays there idle even though there are connected peers available
[19:33] <Barbariandude> genewitch, sounds similar to what happened to me... what system you got?
[19:33] <genewitch> Barbariandude: ubuntu 11.10 on a netbook. i also checked "encrypt home directory" since i need this account for work
[19:34] <Barbariandude> genewitch, then not the same issue as me, mine was nvidia driver related. Sorry, no idea
[19:34] <gabe_> any idea as to why bittorrent won't download anything please?
[19:35] <pikaciu> gabe_: the port is open ?
[19:35] <gettingviews> Hey
[19:35] <gabe_> pikaciu: how would I know that please?
[19:35] <gettingviews> Can some one help me I got to do womething but dont know how
[19:36] <Barbariandude> gabe_, some variation of netstat, don't know off the top of my head
[19:36] <pikaciu> gabe_: i use TRansission but also in bittorent there could be a configuration window
[19:36] <Barbariandude> !anyone | gettingviews
[19:36] <gabe_> pickaciu: yes there is...
[19:37] <pikaciu> gabe_: look for 'port ' or something related to
[19:38] <gabe_> pikaciu: I'm in the network preferences menu... two submenus are available: network setup and file transers
[19:38] <jaja911> How do I get people to click a link so I can get an ak-47?
[19:38] <pikaciu> gabe_: network
[19:39] <pikaciu> gabe_: test port
[19:39] <gabe_> under network setup: Proxy Server (hostname, port, type, use proxy for)  and Proxy Authentication (use authentication check box)
[19:39] <tanath> anyone else use system monitor applet and find it resets to just cpu when gnome panel reloads?
[19:39] <gabe_> under File transfers: Network Settings: DCC IP Address
[19:40] <pikaciu> gabe_: look for port
[19:40] <gabe_> pikaciu: what should the port be?
[19:40] <gabe_> what number?
[19:40] <Barbariandude> tanath, tbh, I'm of the opinion that htop is a lot better
[19:40] <pikaciu> gabe_: it's the way the pc receive and send data (torrent flow in this case)
[19:40] <tanath> Barbariandude, irrelevant. htop is for terminals
[19:41] <tanath> Barbariandude, applet is better for my needs
[19:41] <tanath> Barbariandude, i can see what i need at a glance
[19:41] <tanath> Barbariandude, i do use htop too occasionally
[19:42] <webnet> theadmin nope dont mind. sorry i was having lunch and walked away from my comp
[19:42] <Barbariandude> tanath, fair enough. About the reset, I'm really not sure. Does it work ok if you close and re-open it?
[19:45] <tanath> Barbariandude, no, that's the problem. if i log out, restart, or just reload gnome panel, the applet resets to only displaying CPU (default), whereas i want everything displayed
[19:46] <tanath> Barbariandude, sometimes it doesn't reset when i just reload the panel though
[19:46] <bpietro> hi, it's probably HW problem, but I didn't realize wich one http://dpaste.com/670944/
[19:46] <bpietro> *which
[19:49] <genewitch> I added a user in 11.10 through users and groups and it won't let me log in to it. Screen goes black and a mouse cursor appears, then it goes back to the login screen. Any help?
[19:50] <Barbariandude> tanath, didn't find anything during a quick search through the ubuntu bug pages and I'm starvingly hungry. Hopefully someone else can give you a hand. Gl!
[19:51] <tanath> Barbariandude, ty
[19:52] <xf3i> hello
[19:52] <yasser> hello, there is a way to bypass a proxy server and a firewall to run a webserver on a VM
[19:53] <genewitch> yasser: yes with NAT port forwarding...
[19:53] <jaja911>  Can anyone confirm the validity of this ?    http://www.armslist.com/?utm_source=c000015&utm_medium=plink&utm_campaign=p012705
[19:53] <yasser> there is a manual to do it or something like that
[19:53] <genewitch> jaja911: wrong channel?
[19:54] <genewitch> yasser: there's about 6 billion guides on the internet. portfoward.com is a good place to start
[19:54] <webnet> jaja911 i think ur on the wrong channel bro. this is an os channel
[19:54] <webnet> ubuntu specifically
[19:54] <yasser> genewitch: Thanks I will look for it
[19:55] <webnet> !offtopic | jaja911
[19:55] <BluesKaj> I'm not real sure about the audio settings for separate hdmi . I'm pretty sure if you set it in phonon and the test sound works . it should be ok ...is this correct ?
[19:56] <ntr0py> anyone has experienced problems with rhythmbox http stream stuttering too?
[19:57] <ntr0py> I suspect the buffering algo is badly broken, any other player works correctly
[20:00] <genn> i've set suspend when inactive in power settings to 1 hour but it's not actually happening.  what can i check to find out why?
[20:01] <wildc4rd> is there a good reason I might be getting poor streamed flash media performance since upgrading to 11.10?
[20:02] <genewitch> I added a user in 11.10 through users and groups and it won't let me log in to it. Screen goes black and a mouse cursor appears, then it goes back to the login screen. Any help?
[20:04] <pikaciu> bye
[20:05] <Raliegh> Does anyone know if there's a place I can get the default apache2.conf file for Ubuntu without having to re-install?
[20:06] <edoceo> Why would my machine run this every 30 minutes?  /sbin/iptables -F  ?
[20:07] <edoceo> My cron log is full of that
[20:11] <maslen> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04, and running the proprietary nvidia drivers. When I try to resume from 'inactivity', the machine freezes and is completely unresponsive. However, it is fine until I actually move the mouse or the like - until then, everything works properly.
[20:12] <maslen> Are there any logs I could examine to attempt to determine the cause of this issue, or does anyone know how to fix it?
[20:13] <genewitch> maslen: freezes or goes crazy
[20:13] <maslen> genewitch: Completely frozen.
[20:14] <maslen> The mouse does not move, alt+f1 does not give me a terminal, the caps lock doesn't change the light, and the power button does not shut it down.
[20:16] <sskalnik> maslen, do you have a swap file and is your home directory encrypted?
[20:16] <jubokubuntu> Ok. I run teh upgraades and that fixed the wlan
[20:17] <maslen> sskalnik: I do have a swap, and my home is not encrypted.
[20:17] <jubokubuntu> now if I could just have one of my favourite irc clients with sounds on privmsg and stalk on channel
[20:17] <jubokubuntu> this kubuntu ain't half bad
[20:17] <sskalnik> maslen:  Is this a new occurrence or has this always happened?
[20:17] <maslen> sskalnik: New
[20:18] <sskalnik> maslen:  Which kernel?
[20:18] <maslen> 2.6.38-13-generic
[20:19] <maslen> (x86_64)
[20:19] <Ricklee|> Anyone help?
[20:20] <jubokubuntu> mmm If I could have the best feaatures from Xubuntu and Kubuntu mmm and have it not have bugs
[20:20] <sskalnik> maslen:  Does it resume from suspend when there are no USB peripherals plugged in?
[20:21] <maslen> sskalnik: It's not an issue  of resuming from suspend, rather from inactivity.
[20:22] <sskalnik> So from a black screen, not from a suspend to RAM or hibernate due to inactivity?
[20:22] <esteban123> hello, i have problems with /boot partition. I cant boot ubuntu
[20:22] <maslen> sskalnik: exactly.
[20:23] <maslen> except it's even if the screen is not black.
[20:23] <maslen> Just that I was inactive for 10 minutes or so.
[20:23] <maslen> (I tried disabling that first)
[20:23] <sskalnik> maslen:  Using the official drivers from the 11.04 repo?
[20:23] <maslen> I'm using the current nvidia ones.
[20:24] <sskalnik> maslen:  The ones from the Ubuntu repo, not from the nvidia site?
[20:25] <esteban123> hello i have a grub rescue problem .  How can i mount / and /boot partions if I have the boot in a separatae partition?
[20:26] <maslen> I'm using the current nvidia from the nvidia site.
[20:27] <sskalnik> maslen:  That could be the issue right there.
[20:27] <sskalnik> maslen:  The driver in the Ubuntu repo is probably a safer choice.
[20:27] <germanxn> hi
[20:27] <sskalnik> I would give that a try
[20:27] <germanxn> im trying to install cvim
[20:28] <germanxn> on readme says that i have to copy some file on $home/.vim
[20:28] <germanxn> but thats a file
[20:28] <germanxn> im totally new on linux
[20:29] <sskalnik> germanxn:  You mean Gvim?
[20:29] <germanxn> no, im tring with console vim
[20:29] <germanxn> (sorry about my english)
[20:29] <sskalnik> germanxn:  OK
[20:30] <sskalnik> germanxn:  Nah, your English is good
[20:31] <germanxn> maybe its getting a little better :-)
[20:32] <sskalnik> germanxn:  Can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show us the part of the README you're talking about?
[20:33] <ASDF9af> Hi all is there a program such that I can record audio and mic at the same time (e.g. if I want to sing to instrumenal music on my computer) for playback?
[20:33] <Gizmo_the_Great> hey guys. I got a Drobo FS NAS box. Attached via ethernet (eth0). According to this (http://support.drobo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/165) it should be listed as a dev/sdx but lssci isn't showing it up and its not listed in /dev
[20:33] <Gizmo_the_Great> Any ideas how I go about mounting it? Accessing it?
[20:34] <Gizmo_the_Great> I know the system to be working because I configured at work using Windows and the Windows configuration utility
[20:34] <Gizmo_the_Great> I using 2.6.32-31-generic
[20:34] <Gizmo_the_Great> Min kernel requirement is 2.6.31
[20:35] <germanxn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765286/
[20:37] <Mrokii> hello. Is there a Bash-command to find out the version of a given command? Something like "version vim" to give me the version number of the app.
[20:38] <rumpe1> Mrokii, very often: "command --version"
[20:38] <Mrokii> okay, I'll try, thanks.
[20:39] <Mrokii> rumpe1: That worked, thanks.
[20:41] <amoffatw> hey... i'm using "apt-get build-dep --no-install-recommends" to see the dependencies of a package.  the dependencies listed are totally unrelated to the package's dependencies listed with "apt-cache depends"
[20:41] <amoffatw> for example, if i run the first command with "fping" i get a dependency list "debhelper gettext html2text intltool-debian libcroco3 po-debconf"
[20:41] <amoffatw> but if i run the second command, i get the dependency list "libc"
[20:41] <trism> amoffatw: build-deps are not the same as deps, build-deps are the packages required to build a binary package
[20:42] <trism> amoffatw: deps are the packages required to use the binary package
[20:42] <webnet> trism i second that.
[20:42] <amoffatw> trism, ok that makes total sense, thanks for clearing it up :)
[20:43] <webnet> BUild deps are ell the packages that need to be installed in order to build the package amoffatw , deps are the dependencies that the package requires in order to run
[20:43] <webnet> properly that is
[20:43] <Brewster> you know how some users are having trouble with unity and nvidia drivers and blank/invisible windows?
[20:44] <webnet> ok Brewster
[20:44] <webnet> im intrigued continue :P
[20:44] <Brewster> I think i may have a solution. But where do I report it?
[20:44] <amoffatw> webnet, trism, so if i wanted to just download the dependencies of the binary, but not the dependencies to build it from source, how could i do that?  i was using apt-get build-dep --download-only
[20:45] <jeaton> i have a printer hooked up to my deskstop and it was printing fine the other day and now for some reason I cannot get it to print
[20:45] <jeaton> it says "Processing- Not Connected?"
[20:45] <arand> Brewster: in the corresponding bug report on launchpad, I'm guessing
[20:45] <Brewster> kk
[20:45] <Brewster> ty
[20:46] <jeaton> any idea what is going on, it tells me its connected under Printing localhost
[20:46] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[20:47] <webnet> Brewster make a launchpad account and ten submit a bug repot here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[20:47] <webnet> and Brewster what is the fix?
[20:47] <webnet> brewster?
[20:48] <webnet> damn hes gone
[20:48] <webnet> !language webnet
[20:48] <OerHeks> please don't swear
[20:48] <webnet> i know that is why i language flagged myself
[20:48] <webnet> !language | webnet
[20:49] <malibu> Hi there.. Is there a way to install U11.10 on USB in a way that is updatable?
[20:49] <webnet> sorry about that guys
[20:49] <malibu> I installed on USB but all I got was the same as using the live DVD
[20:49] <MachHare> cd
[20:50] <malibu> it even mounts on /cdrom which is the heart of the issue
[20:54] <webnet> malibu, in short, no
[20:54] <webnet> hte only way to install is using live medium like a live cd/dvd/usb/
[20:55] <webnet> so im not entirely sure what you are asking malibu
[20:55] <webnet> *ther
[20:55] <webnet> WOW *the
[20:55] <malibu> I'm asking if I can actually boot off a usb and run a real ubuntu system off of it
[20:55] <imbezol> webnet: creative people can use pxe boot
[20:56] <malibu> imbezol, I would jump on that but I don't want to have to boot on a wire
[20:56] <imbezol> malibu: a usb drive is just a drive as long as your bios supports booting off it
[20:56] <imbezol> malibu: no reason you can't install to it that i can think of
[20:56] <malibu> imbezol, So that was going to be my next question.. I can just select it as the dest drive
[20:57] <webnet> imbezol, didnt think of that. lol
[20:57] <robsonpeixoto> hi. Why on Ubuntu Server are showing a lot of duplicate name of packages?
[20:57] <robsonpeixoto> *hi. Why on Ubuntu Server are showing a lot of duplicate name of packages using 'aptitude'?
[20:57] <webnet> robsonpeixoto, what do you mean. what are they for exampple
[20:58] <webnet> robsonpeixoto, the package names that are dupes
[20:58] <robsonpeixoto> webnet, I'm using aptitude, and there are two qemu-kvm, for example.
[20:59] <esteban123> hurra! funcinono!
[20:59] <OerHeks> robsonpeixoto, both names the same ?
[21:00] <hardwired> 'llo. After upgrade to 11.10, I cannot mount nfs shares anymore. I think rpcbind isn't running, but I'm not sure how to check.
[21:00] <webnet> no numbers after them . like 1.2 1nd 1.2.1 robsonpeixoto
[21:00] <robsonpeixoto> OerHeks, yep.
[21:00] <robsonpeixoto> webnet, exactly the same
[21:01] <webnet> strange and what are you looking at that is giving you this package list? you are in CLI right?
[21:01] <robsonpeixoto> webnet ans OerHeks, the same to 'sg3-utils'
[21:01] <webnet> strange and what are you looking at that is giving you this package list? you are in CLI right robsonpeixoto ?
[21:02] <kasii>  hi all
[21:02] <robsonpeixoto> webnet, I install Ubuntu Server 11.10 rigth now. I am not change anything on source.list
[21:03] <kasii> am looking for java application
[21:03] <kasii> anybody to help me
[21:03] <kasii> any java compiler
[21:03] <robsonpeixoto> webnet, OerHeks . More examples: 'tcpd', 'tgt', 'unixodbc' ....
[21:03] <GhostWolf> hey all i have an issue, i woke up bout an hour ago and i couldn't get my mouse or kb working, so i restart my pc manually, then i couldn't get to ubuntu i tried doing the option to do recovery, now whenever i select ubuntu i get this, BusyBox v1.17.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.17.1-10ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash) enter 'help' for a list of commands, (initramfs). can anyone help i haven't done anything to my hard drive which ubuntu is on.
[21:03] <kasii> like neat beans in windows
[21:04] <webnet> GhostWolf, try typing startx
[21:04] <kasii> java compiler
[21:04] <webnet> robsonpeixoto, that is strange you are in the install process right now?
[21:04] <GhostWolf> webnet ok let go do that, i'll be back im using one pc but running dual os.
[21:04] <webnet> ok cool.
[21:05] <kasii> i need a help on java compiler
[21:05] <webnet> Ghostwolf
[21:05] <kasii> java
[21:05] <kasii>  JAVA COMPILER
[21:05] <kasii> i need help on java compiler
[21:06] <robsonpeixoto> Has Ubuntu  any problem with RAID and LVM ?
[21:06] <sskalnik> robsonpeixoto:  It works like a champ over here
[21:06] <webnet> kasii, hi what are you trying to do?
[21:06] <Hellhammer> My WICD is not connecting to my WPA wireless network and the only error it gives is bad password but the password is correct whats going on?
[21:07] <Hellhammer> My WICD is not connecting to my WPA wireless network and the only error it gives is bad password but the password is correct whats going on?
[21:07] <kasii> webnell
[21:07] <kasii> webnet thanks
[21:07] <sskalnik> Hellhammer:  are other machines able to connect using the same password?
[21:07] <Hellhammer> yes a windows 7 laptop
[21:07] <kasii> i need a help on java compiler for ubuntu 11.10
[21:07] <malibu> Wow, off topic, but HP donated WebOS to open source.
[21:07] <webnet> kasii, are you building a java program from sources?
[21:08] <sskalnik>  malibu yeah saw that on HN a minute ago; and a great host of geeks rejoice!
[21:08] <webnet> or are you writing your own java application kasii ?
[21:08] <kasii> yes  am new in java programming so  i need a java complier
[21:08] <sskalnik> Hellhammer:  what wifi router are you using?
[21:08] <GhostWolf> webnet, ok i did that and it didn't understand the command.
[21:08] <Hellhammer> a motorola router
[21:09] <Ibis> Anyone here by any chance use the ASUS P8Z68-V motherboard with ubuntu? Experiencing any issues?
[21:09] <kasii> i used it on windows   application called neat beans
[21:09] <sskalnik> Hellhammer:  I had a similar issue with some dd-wrt based routers
[21:09] <kasii> now i want an applicaation  to run java programss in ubuntu 11.10
[21:10] <kasii> webnet help me
[21:10] <webnet> ooh. ok GhostWolf . that could mean several things... :o
[21:10] <kasii> webnet
[21:10] <webnet> kasii, ok have you searched the software center
[21:10] <kasii>  i need your help
[21:10] <kasii> which application
[21:10] <webnet> Applications>Ubuntu Software Center
[21:10] <egoga> Are the latest bleeding edge versions of Ubuntu available by upgrade, or doesn't Oneiric Onecelot work by upgrade, you have to do fresh install
[21:11] <kasii> in ubuntu software center
[21:11] <hardwired> kasii: look for netbeans (not neat beans)
[21:11] <webnet> Applications>Ubuntu Software Center kasii
[21:11] <GhostWolf> webnet, well i don't know what happened it was working lastnight and all and went to bed, i don't turn my pc off, so i have a power saver to have my monitor go black and when i got up i tried to get that back up and my mouse nor kb wasn't working. do you know if theres a way i can get my files from the hdd that ubuntu is on?
[21:12] <kasii> so it is there in ubuntu software centre
[21:12] <hardwired> is anyone on a system with some nfs share mounted? can you check something for me?
[21:12] <webnet> kasii, i use this one. http://www.bluej.org/download/download.html
[21:12] <kasii> let me open ubuntu software center and search it
[21:12] <webnet> if you are interested kasii its the deb.
[21:13] <webnet> GhostWolf, it sounds like X is bad for some reason...
[21:13] <webnet> did you have any specific settings?
[21:13] <GhostWolf> webnet what you mean X?
[21:13] <webnet> The Gnome KDE etc interfaces use an X Server from Xorg or Xvessa to run the interface
[21:14] <webnet> if startx didnt work, it sounds like X corrupted
[21:14] <fishcooker> bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
[21:14] <webnet> sorry my last 2 msgs were for GhostWolf
[21:14] <GhostWolf> webnet ok well i had no special or specific settings that i know of.
[21:14] <fishcooker> HOW to get rid of this
[21:14] <webnet> ok then why  dont we see if we can fix that
[21:14] <webnet> GhostWolf,
[21:15] <GhostWolf> webnet only issue i know is my psu died and i switched it to another one i have in an old machine don't know if that would be the cause
[21:15] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[21:15] <hardwired> kasii: are you using ubuntu 11.10? because then netbeans has to be installed manually
[21:15] <GhostWolf> webnet that would be great if we can do it within an hour cause i have to go help my sister in about an hour
[21:16] <kasii> am now update it manually
[21:16] <webnet> ok GhostWolf
[21:16] <iwantlinux> hi guys: i have a pc that has no dvd drive, and doesnt support usb booting. however, i have the linux ISO on my hardware. is there any quick way to install it?
[21:16] <hardwired> kasii: and you know, if you google for netbeans, you can download it on their site and install it manually. it's easy.
[21:16] <bekks> iwantlinux: No.
[21:16] <GhostWolf> webnet, only thing is if i have to try to do it to the hdd that ubuntu is on i have to quit and reboot cause i have 2 hdd's one with ubuntu on it and one with windows. and i am on the windows one right now
[21:17] <webnet> GhostWolf, ok then perhaps print ot write down these commands
[21:17] <iwantlinux> bekks: what about network boot and/or from harddrive?
[21:17] <kasii> i have download net beans but fail to run in my pc
[21:17] <GhostWolf> webnet yea i'll write them down, i don't have a printer
[21:17] <webnet> i can send you a text file you can print if you like
[21:17] <webnet> oh ok
[21:17] <BlueLaguna> Are there any user space nfsv4 servers?
[21:17] <bekks> iwantlinux: Thats possible, but you cannot boot from the harddisk you want to install ubuntu on, and setting up a PXE server isnt that easy.
[21:18] <GhostWolf> webnet, if it be easier as well you can pm me as well
[21:18] <hardwired> kasii: do you have the java sdk installed?
[21:18] <iwantlinux> bekks: isn't it even possible if the iso is on another partition of the harddisk?
[21:18] <kasii> i have jdk
[21:18] <webnet> Lol GhostWolf i just did :D
[21:18] <Hellhammer> My WICD is not connecting to my WPA wireless network and the only error it gives is bad password but the password is correct whats going on?
[21:18] <bekks> iwantlinux: No.
[21:19] <hardwired> kasii: ok, how did you try to install? what did you do?
[21:19] <iwantlinux> bekks: so i have the iso on my harddisk but there's no way to install it? that is making me sad
[21:20] <kasii> i saw them  that they are installed but fails to open the  project
[21:20] <hardwired> kasii: wait. do you have netbeans installed already or not?
[21:20] <kasii> isnt installed
[21:21] <bekks> iwantlinux: It is pretty logically that you cannot install something the way you want :)
[21:21] <hardwired> kasii: OK. have you downloaded it?
[21:21] <kasii> i have download it but fails to run in my pc
[21:21] <hardwired> kasii: OK. what is the name of the file you have downloaded?
[21:21] <kasii> netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh
[21:22] <kasii> it have size of 203 MB
[21:22] <iwantlinux> bekks: yeah, but this is driving me crazy. All i want is my linux
[21:22] <hardwired> kasii: that look good. i think all you need to do is make this file executable and then run it.
[21:23] <kasii> yaaaahhh  so how to make it executable
[21:23] <stepnjump> Please, how do you call this effect there that has a gliding menu to select apps at the bottom of the screen?
[21:23] <hardwired> can someone tell kasii how to make his netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh executable and then run it? I am not so fluent with ubuntu desktop, only server.
[21:24] <raws_raws> phamily
[21:24] <kasii> am now have a dell vostro 1015 with ubuntu 11.10
[21:24] <hardwired> kasii: maybe try this: http://ma65p.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/how-to-make-a-file-executable-in-ubuntu/
[21:24] <Olivia> If there running Ubuntu they can right click Properties Permissons and check Execute
[21:25] <hardwired> kasii: just as Olivia said, that should work.
[21:25] <kasii> how to make  executable file after download that application
[21:25] <fishcooker> anyone have the same problem with me
[21:25] <fishcooker> ?
[21:26] <Olivia> fishcooker, What's the problem?
[21:26] <kasii> okay let me try
[21:26] <webnet> stepnjump, you mean like a dock?
[21:27] <stepnjump> Yes I think that is it webnet, I just found it on the web
[21:28] <kasii> thankssssssss alot friends it now installing java application netbeans
[21:28] <stepnjump> Which dock is the nicest webnet
[21:29] <Olivia> You're welcome kasii
[21:30] <kasii> olivia thanks so much
[21:30] <kasii> i cant imagine
[21:30] <stepnjump> Is docky good?
[21:30] <kasii> if that could be possible
[21:31] <Olivia> (:
[21:31] <Pici> !best | stepnjump
[21:31] <kasii> it drives my head for about five days olivia
[21:31] <herrera2982> hello community
[21:31] <Olivia> kasii aww well glad you know how now! (:
[21:32] <Olivia> Hello herrera2982
[21:32] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[21:32] <herrera> hello Olivia
[21:32] <Olivia> i use cairo-dock stepnjump its pretty good
[21:33] <herrera> i want to learn python, do you have some recomendations, books, blogs, anything?
[21:33] <stepnjump> thanks olivia I appreciate it
[21:33] <Spankbot> Its time for a little bit of Full Blown Chaos to test the new install of "Audacious"
[21:34] <sskalnik> herrera:  http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
[21:34] <Ravior> at everybody the workspace switcher is a mess?
[21:34] <Olivia> You're welcome stepnjump
[21:34] <Spankbot> The Walking Dead appears to be working just fine
[21:34] <Pici> herrera: #python is a good place
[21:35] <jmux> Hi. I'm on 11.10 and trying to get KVM bridged network running (br0 <= eth0) using DHCP. I'm getting the "Waiting up to 60 more seconds" delay from failsafe.conf in disconnected mode. If eth0 is connected there is no delay. "allow-hotplug" doesn't work; neither for eth0 nor br0. Any ideas or a working interfaces config?
[21:35] <OerHeks> herrera check the volume 1-55 of Full Circle magazine, every issue has a python-section
[21:36] <madprops> i cant play a dvd srsly
[21:37] <madprops> i click a menu option and vlc and movie player crash
[21:37] <Olivia> :/
[21:38] <webnet> ok i like fod a dock stepnjump , i like using AWN (Avant Window Manager) I believe its available in the ubu software center
[21:39] <webnet> stepnjump, wow typs. lol. *For a dock
[21:41] <slinzex> critical hdd crash! cannot mount hdd . Linux can't start, Windows neither. Sysrescuecd cannot launch. No errors. Just infinitely trying mount hdd, but no result. What can it be?
[21:42] <Olivia> Hmm
[21:42] <Olivia> Bios err?
[21:42] <Olivia> Or your hdd is broke
[21:43] <hardwired> slinzex: broken sata cable?
[21:43] <fishcooker> thankyou for questioning Olivia..
[21:43] <hardwired> Olivia: (don't always assume the worst :P)
[21:43]  * MrOpposite test
[21:43] <TornadoChas3r> Could anyone give me some suggestions on why my box decides to lock up after its been idle a whille, its a bit odd .. you could be in an SSH session and it will stop responding, but you never time out from the server etc, this also appears on the servers console http://i41.tinypic.com/17x2fo.png, not sure why it happens, the HDDs seem healthy and don't have a problem otherwise, my only guess
[21:43] <TornadoChas3r> right now is either the memory has a problem or the SCSI controller is having issues, anyone have any ideas?
[21:43] <fishcooker> i've got rid of that locale problem
[21:43] <fishcooker> with
[21:44] <Olivia> A BIOS error is not that bad :P but yea.. hdd broke is XD
[21:44] <fishcooker> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[21:44] <Olivia> Yea
[21:44] <Olivia> Check your cables (:
[21:44] <fishcooker> then logout the shell n started new
[21:44] <stepnjump> Is there a way to remove the bottom panel?
[21:44] <fishcooker> it works no "extra" message popping
[21:44] <Olivia> Ah
[21:44] <fishcooker> thanks again for your attention Olivia
[21:45] <fishcooker> you are the best
[21:45] <fishcooker> :p
[21:45] <Olivia> hehe =]
[21:45] <slinzex> hardwired, impossible
[21:45] <reven> when updating to 11.04 and above .xinitrc doesn't seem to work anymore, and have only found that it could be done via gnome/unity, but I only run CLI. How do I run scrips when login in?
[21:45] <slinzex> hardwired, its dell inspiron m301z and it's new
[21:45] <herrera> hello, someone knows about a cisco vpn client for ubuntu x64?
[21:46] <slinzex> hardwired, im actually running diagnostics. All dell official tests are passed. All cables ok. Now it's scanning hdd sectors by block..
[21:46] <fishcooker> slinzex, may my question out of topic
[21:46] <slinzex> hardwired, and no error
[21:46] <fishcooker> you have dell m301z
[21:46] <fishcooker> how abt the battery life on ubuntu
[21:47] <aj00200> is there a way to regenerate the list of apps that unity will search in? It appears that my list has been corrupted.
[21:47] <fishcooker> on windows 7 i've got 3 hours
[21:47] <slinzex> fishcooker, is offtop.. but it's ok. same 3h
[21:47] <marcuy> I'm trying to log in with .ssh/authenticated_keys but I get the following error with verbose output: debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed   any idea?
[21:47] <fishcooker> but on ubuntu just less than 2hour
[21:47] <slinzex> fishcooker, moreless...
[21:47] <slinzex> please somebody help
[21:48] <slinzex> it's impossible to repair?
[21:48] <slinzex> any suggestion?
[21:48] <Olivia> fishcooker do you have Netbook edition?
[21:48] <Ibis> Anyone here by any chance use the ASUS P8Z68-V motherboard with ubuntu? Experiencing any issues?
[21:48] <fishcooker> yap...
[21:48] <mang0> If I wget something, where does it go by defult?
[21:48] <fishcooker> is it matter notebook or netbook Olivia
[21:48] <fishcooker> ?
[21:48] <Olivia> Hmm
[21:48] <helen_> mang0: :o
[21:48] <helen_> me :)
[21:48] <aj00200> mang0: it goes to the current directory
[21:48] <helen_> you remember me
[21:48] <Ibis> mang0: In the same directory you 're currently in since using wget.
[21:49] <hardwired> reven: did you try using .xsession instead of .xinitrc?
[21:49] <helen_> mang0: PM
[21:49] <mang0> helen_: ? >.> uh...
[21:49] <mongy> marcuy,  authorized_keys ?
[21:49] <mang0> helen_: K...
[21:49] <Olivia> fishcooker No i was just wanting to know the version of Ubuntu
[21:49] <Olivia> :P
[21:49] <mongy> exit
[21:49] <fishcooker> the new one
[21:49] <Olivia> Umm
[21:49] <hardwired> reven: I think I had that same problem when updating to 11.04
[21:49] <mongy> oops*
[21:49] <Olivia> Cjeck the power settings
[21:49] <mang0> Ibis: aj00200 Thankyou.
[21:49] <fishcooker> 11.10 with unity sh** :D
[21:49] <Olivia> You can disable unity :P
[21:49] <fishcooker> yeah
[21:50] <marcuy> mongy, yes, I've already added my public fingerprint to such file
[21:50] <fishcooker> i get back to 10.3
[21:50] <mang0> helen_: Pm'd you....
[21:50] <Ibis> Or just use gnome3. Or switch to Linuxmint 12. (It just came out).
[21:50] <webnet> fishcooker,  yeah log out. along the bottom, select ubuntu classic desktop from the interfaces choises
[21:50] <SilfenX_> hello - I m using  gnome-core and vnc to accessvirtual desktop on server machine. There is a slight problem tho: I dont have modify rights to any stuff that got root only rights from the file manager which is a pita. How can I give temp root access to file manager in vnc session?
[21:50] <mongy> marcuy, is the file chmod 600 ?
[21:51] <marcuy> mongy file chmod 600 and .ssh chmod 700
[21:51] <fishcooker> i've get it shot webnet thankyou
[21:51] <reven> hardwired, yep, right now I'm trying to echo something to a file, just to see if it runs on login.
[21:51] <mongy> marcuy, and your /etc/ssh/sshd_config is setup properly to allow pubkey auth?
[21:51] <fishcooker> Olivia actually im on notebook
[21:52] <Olivia> Hmm
[21:52] <fishcooker> i've realized that ubuntu doesn't handle the battery life well
[21:52] <fishcooker> on my A43sj
[21:52] <BlueLaguna> Hmm...how high do userspace ports go?  Over 9000?
[21:52] <webnet> fishcooker,  np
[21:52] <reven> hardwired, but can't get it to run. Did you have more luck in 11.10?
[21:52] <BlueLaguna> as in network ports
[21:52] <Olivia> Depends on what you have running
[21:52] <Ibis> SilfenX_: Do you mean to "Run vnc" as root? To do that you use the sudo command. Example: sudo vnc-server-program-here                          Sudo is used to run a command as root.
[21:52] <robsonpeixoto> Is aptitude a recomeded tool on Ubuntu Server ? There are a lot of bug =(
[21:52] <TornadoChas3r> Did a test with memtest, memory looks good, not sure what else could be causing the box to lock up like this, other theory was the SCSI controller, but I've never had a problem with it .. and it works fine otherwise
[21:52] <Olivia> Iv been told Ubuntu is a resource hog
[21:52] <Ibis> SilfenX_: Any commands you run AFTER sudo will not be "root".
[21:53] <hardwired> reven: I am using ubuntu server on my mediacenter box, and since 11.04 I use .xsession to start xbmc upon login. It still works with 11.10.
[21:53] <fishcooker> nothing running just terminal just 2 hours
[21:53] <fishcooker> ubuntu kidding me?
[21:53] <SilfenX_> Ibis: well, I m not sure what I mean except that I need the file manager in the vnc session to be allowed to modify files/folders that have root only rights set
[21:53] <Ibis> SilfenX_: So typing in "sudo" before any and any command you can think of does the trick.
[21:53] <marcuy> mongy, I hope so, it's a shared vps
[21:53] <Ibis> SilfenX_: Then run: sudo    filemanagercommandHERE
[21:54] <fishcooker> actually i've install macosx 10.7.2 on these notebook too
[21:54] <marcuy> mongy, how can I be sure of that without having access to sshd_config?
[21:54] <mongy> marcuy, cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config | grep -i pubkey
[21:54] <SilfenX_> Ibis: Oh! So I start the filemanger from a terminal window with sudo in the desktop env?
[21:54] <reven> hardwired, it's actully xbmc I'm trying to autostart. Got it to autologin on user account on start. but nothing more.
[21:54] <marcuy> mongy I will try that
[21:54] <fishcooker> it is more fair than ubuntu on handling the battery life
[21:54] <fishcooker> 2 hours with extra running application
[21:54] <hardwired> reven: ah nice. I tell you what I did in private, but I don't know if that's the proper way to do it.
[21:55] <Ibis> SilfenX_: YEs.
[21:55] <fishcooker> i wonder why?
[21:55] <marcuy> mongy, PubkeyAuthentication yes
[21:55] <SilfenX_> Ibis: Thank you
[21:55] <Ibis> SilfenX_: That file manager will be running as a user named root, and you can do tasks "as root" WITHIN that file manager.
[21:55] <Ibis> SilfenX_: Colors usually changes to indicate that you're using a FILEMANAGER as root.
[21:56] <fishcooker> just miss channel 'ubuntu-like' this on the macosx :p
[21:56] <fishcooker> you're all awesome here quick n friendly to others.. just miss this community channel on the macosx
[21:56] <fishcooker> :D
[21:57] <mongy> marcuy, try connecting with -vvv
[21:57] <SilfenX_> Ibis: what would the specific syntax be? I only get command not found trying to use any of that
[21:57] <mongy> marcuy, and paste it on pastebin
[21:58] <Captain_Crow> hello, does ubuntu come with compiz or does it have to be downloaded from somewhere?
[21:59] <SilfenX_> Ah! Silly me! It s Nautilus ofc! :P
[22:00] <Ravior> It came with it but you might consider downloading Compiz Config Settings Manager to customize it.
[22:00] <Ibis> SilfenX_: What exactly did you typed in to get said error message "command not found"?
[22:01] <SilfenX_> Ibis: you dont want to know ^^
[22:01] <Ibis> sudo airhead? o.o
[22:01] <SilfenX_> yeah, somethign along those lines ^^
[22:02] <Ibis> What exactly?
[22:04] <marcuy> mongy, http://pastebin.com/Qti53bjs
[22:05] <mongy> marcuy, unknown key type...  how did you make the key ?     we never asked this question either, can you login with just the password ?
[22:06] <Guest82690> testing irc
[22:06] <marcuy> mongy, after I put id_rsa password I can login
[22:06] <mongy> marcuy, do you have a passphrase on the key ?
[22:06] <marcuy> mongy, yes
[22:07] <kasii> webnet are you still there
[22:07] <marcuy> mongy, ups so is it ok that being asked?
[22:07] <mongy> marcuy, and you are entering the passphrase ?
[22:08] <marcuy> mongy, after I enter key passphrase I can log in
[22:08] <Rotham> noob question.. should "*/5 * * * *"  set my conjob to repeat every 5 minutes?
[22:08] <mongy> marcuy, well, there you go then
[22:10] <webnet> still here
[22:11] <whoever> hi all, is there a good html5 wysiwyg, bluefish doesn't have html5 and bluegriffon Is a piece of shit , you have to play for the external viewer
[22:11] <mongy> marcuy, if you dont want a passphrase, just remove your key and make a new one with ssh-keygen and choose no passphrase, then ssh-copy-id it
[22:11] <marcuy> mongy, hehe sorry, thanks for your time
[22:11] <webnet> kasii still here
[22:12] <mongy> marcuy, no worries
[22:21] <moepigalj23> hello
[22:21] <moepigalj23> Obama has compiled a remarkable record of economic disasters in his 31 months as President. He has added $4.3 trillion to our national debt, quadrupled our budget deficit, championed an unpopular and unfunded socialized healthcare plan and rammed through an unworkable $800 billion stimulus plan. In the process, gasoline prices have skyrocketed, home sales have tanked, the dollar is being challenged as the global reserve currency a
[22:22] <moepigalj23> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[22:22] <soreau> moepigalj23: That is completely off topic for this channel
[22:22] <soreau> ! ot
[22:26] <moepigalj23> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[22:29] <fri3za> hi i need help working out LMMS
[22:29] <fri3za> i installed it but i dont see it in my menu
[22:30] <c0nfus3d1> could you not run lmms from command line?
[22:30] <fri3za> nop
[22:30] <fri3za> its not even there
[22:31] <fri3za> but it says its installed
[22:31] <c0nfus3d1> right, so in a command line just type: lmms
[22:31] <jasmin> hiii
[22:31] <jasmin> i need help pls
[22:31] <fri3za> hm
[22:31] <SilfenX_> does it have any impact on how an installation proceeds if synaptic package manager is ran as root or not?
[22:31] <fri3za> i think i see the problem
[22:32] <fri3za> it wasnt in my directory
[22:32] <sskalnik> SilfenX_:  it should not allow you to install packages without sudo
[22:32] <fri3za> ro somit must of installed else were
[22:33] <jasmin> [root@localhost bin]# iperf -s
[22:33] <jasmin> bind failed: Address already in use
[22:33] <JGAN> hey guys
[22:33] <JGAN> can someone tell me the proper permission settings for /lib
[22:33] <fri3za> sudo ?
[22:33] <fri3za> lol
[22:34] <jrib> JGAN: why?
[22:34] <JGAN> im having the error in 10.04 where i cant open users and groups
[22:34] <sskalnik> JGAN:  rwxr-xr-x  22 root:root
[22:34] <JGAN> and i was googling around
[22:34] <SilfenX_> sskalnik: oh! I invoke synpatic package manager via system menu from remote virtual desktop vnc session. Typically file manager wont allow me to do root stuff using that unless I start it from therminal with sudo. Wonder why synaptic package manager lets me install stuff from just invoking it from the menu then.
[22:35] <JGAN> and some forum suggested something about those permission settings
[22:35] <sskalnik> SilfenX_:  who are you logged in as when you use VNC?
[22:35] <jrib> JGAN: try opening from a terminal
[22:35] <JGAN> and... i have them correct already :/
[22:36] <JGAN> wait
[22:36] <JGAN> i have drwxr-xr-x
[22:36] <JGAN> so chmod 764?
[22:36] <sskalnik> JGAN:  no you are good already
[22:37] <sskalnik> JGAN:  d just means directory
[22:37] <JGAN> damnit
[22:37] <JGAN> ok
[22:37] <JGAN> im in trouble now :/
[22:37] <webnet> !language | JGAN
[22:38] <SilfenX_> sskalnik: doing a 'top' it looks like xvnc4 is running under my own user account on the server
[22:38] <Abbie> hey everyone... apologies if i'm not in the right spot (true newbie here).  is there anyone who might be able to offer tips on an install?  i've been googling for hours but still stuck... if this chat an ok place to ask or where should i go?
[22:38] <sskalnik> SilfenX_:  while in the VNC session, can you do a "whoami"?
[22:39] <webnet> Abbie,  can you give more detail
[22:39] <sskalnik> Abbie:  this is the right place
[22:39] <BernSamson> Abbie: what are you needing to know?
[22:39] <webnet> Abbie,  what are you having a problem with
[22:39] <SilfenX_> sskalnik: yes, it gives me my own username. why would synaptic allow root maneouvering and not filemanager?
[22:39] <twocarlo> has anyone using vmlite lately
[22:40] <Abbie> i'm trying to install on an old ibook g4, cannot get my computer to pull up the install page on startup
[22:40] <webnet> are you booting from cd? or usb?
[22:40] <webnet> Abbie, ^^
[22:40] <Abbie> i've tried holding down c, alt, etc, burning multiple cds (they work on my friend's pc)
[22:41] <sskalnik> SilfenX_:  are you running both synaptic and the file manager through the VNC session?
[22:41] <SilfenX_> yes
[22:41] <sskalnik> What is the file manager refusing to do without sudo?
[22:42] <webnet> Abbie, are you booting from cd? or usb?
[22:42] <Abbie> from a cd
[22:42] <SilfenX_> sskalnik: no modify access to files owned by root
[22:42] <Neosano> I'm trying to transfer file from one computer to another using scp. what I get is "received disconnect from 192.168.0.1: 2: Packet corrupt .lost connection"
[22:42] <Neosano> It doesn't even start to transfer
[22:43] <SilfenX_> sskalnik: filemanager is nautilus
[22:43] <Abbie> and the cd appears to be fine, it works on a pc
[22:43] <webnet> Abbie, try pressing F12?
[22:43] <Abbie> my friend was able to enter the test mode
[22:43] <webnet> Abbie, apologies im not totally familiar with booting linux on a mac
[22:44] <BernSamson> nor am I
[22:44] <BernSamson> the last mac I tinkered with was an Apple ii back in grade school
[22:44] <BernSamson> lol
[22:45] <sskalnik> BernSamson:  the last mac I tinkered with was an ASUS
[22:45] <Abbie> ok, haven't tried F12... don't think that's the code for my computer but i'll give it a shot... thanks for any advice at all haha, getting desperate
[22:45] <c0nfus3d1> putenv('DISPLAY=:0'); exec('sudo oowriter'); let apache open oowrtier on the local machine desktop. how can I do this without the use of sudo
[22:45] <Neosano> there was some hack with ssh to transfer a file.. something with cat, what was it?
[22:46] <sskalnik> Abbie:  It should be C, but if that does not work, I'm not sure.
[22:46] <Pupuser> I was trying to format a 3rd hard drive and acadiently formated my C: drive as FAT32, how do I restort it back to NTFS
[22:46] <Abbie> right, i tried with C.. nothing.  when i hit alt/option it brings up a pic of the hard drive but no cd
[22:46] <Abbie> the cd reader works great though
[22:47] <Abbie> so i have no idea what the deal is
[22:47] <sskalnik> Abbie:  The CD is the PPC version and not i386?
[22:47] <skilz> How can I disable graphical system boot so I can see verbose mode?
[22:47] <whoever> is tere a dpkg yet for quanta , their site is up and running but it does not show up in the repos
[22:48] <Abbie> sskalnik - that i'm not sure, how do i check?
[22:48] <sskalnik> Abbie:  Does the name of the CD image end with i386 or ppc?
[22:48] <aanti> good evening. someone willing to assist me with fixing my default entry in grub2 ? have pastes ready
[22:49] <sskalnik> Abbie:  You will want the ppc version for G4
[22:49] <Ibis> Anyone here by any chance use the ASUS P8Z68-V motherboard with ubuntu? Experiencing any issues?
[22:49] <Abbie> oh it does say i386!
[22:49] <Pupuser> I formated my Windows C: drive as FAT32 by acident, picked the wrong hard drive. How do I recover it?!
[22:50] <Ibis> Try using this: www.piriform.com/recuva
[22:51] <Abbie> so i burned the incorrect version?
[22:51] <sskalnik> Abbie:  Just get the ppc version and you should be good to go
[22:51] <skilz> After performing a 'apt-get upgrade' my system is running really slow now, 99% cpu, can I revert back some how?
[22:51] <sskalnik> Abbie:  Yeah, the i386 version is for PCs and newer Macs
[22:51] <sskalnik> Abbie:  PPC is for G5 and G4
[22:52] <sskalnik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[22:52] <sskalnik> !ppc
[22:52] <webnet> Pupuser, Recuvia wont work on a formatted drive use photorec
[22:53] <moepigalj23> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[22:53] <Pupuser> Theres no tools that can unformat and restore the Windows 7 NTFS partion?
[22:53] <webnet> moepigalj23, um ok then
[22:54] <webnet> Pupuser, im sure there are. hold on
[22:54] <enthdegree> what the gay why is kubuntu downloading language packs
[22:54] <sskalnik> Pupuser:  To make sure that nothing gets overwritten, make sure you immediately unmount the drive and do not use it.
[22:55] <kristianpaul> !ratpoison
[22:55] <sskalnik> enthdegree:  Language
[22:55] <Pupuser> Ya I turned off the computer and pulled the hard drive.
[22:55] <enthdegree> sskalnik: right, the language packs
[22:55] <kristianpaul> add ratpoison to lightxdm is same is gdm?
[22:55] <enthdegree> Kubuntu is downloading them on installation.
[22:55] <Abbie> oh man thank you guys so much... ok looking around that link now to make sure i get the right one
[22:55] <sskalnik> enthdegree:  No, your language.
[22:55] <sskalnik> Abbie:  no prob!
[22:56] <enthdegree> Exactly! I am absolutely lost as to why Kubuntu is installing these language packs to my computer, I was not even given an option to enable them.
[22:56] <sskalnik> enthdegree:  I meant "please do not use offensive language".
[22:57] <sskalnik> enthdegree:  The language packs are probably installed by a metapackage
[22:57] <enthdegree> Oh my goodness. This is an official support channel, I expect people here to act at least halfway professional
[22:57] <sparr> what is modem-manager and how do I stop it?
[22:57] <enthdegree> ok thanks sskalnik
[22:58] <funnyfingers> test
[22:58] <kristianpaul> yes
[22:58] <enthdegree> funnyfingers: we see you
[22:58] <kristianpaul> bye
[22:58] <teratoma> im going to start asking for help with 'what the gay'
[22:58] <sskalnik> teratoma:  I can't recommend it.
[22:59] <salmiak> any idea what is the best program to change fileformat from flv (flashvideo) to mkv? (I don't need the content to be reencoded)
[23:00] <OerHeks> salmiak, see transcoding > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Transcoding
[23:03] <amine> bsr
[23:04] <amine> cvp je soui nv sur ubuntu et je soui un peu perdu
[23:05] <twocarlo> has anyone know how to cancel the jigdo download and restart it?
[23:05] <webnet> !language | enthdegree
[23:05] <webnet> Pupuser, ok do you have another os on another hdd or something?
[23:06] <Pupuser> webnet: I have puppy Linux on a bootable flash drive.
[23:06] <eigar> Tought I'll try to reinstall the desktop on 11.10 before I do a complete re-install of entire system.
[23:07] <amine> qui peu maider
[23:07] <Pupuser> webnet: Lucid Puppy, I can install ubuntu programs.
[23:07] <eigar> Is it as simple as sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome* unity* ?
[23:07] <webnet> ok Pupuser. give me a sec. i think i found something you can use
[23:08] <DJones> !fr | amine
[23:08] <SilfenX_> how do you remove a PPA repository via terminal under lucid?
[23:09] <OerHeks> SilfenX_, ppa purge
[23:09] <SilfenX_> using ppa-purge result in 'command not found'
[23:09] <amine> dsl je soui perdu
[23:10] <Fuchs> amine: si tu veux q'on taide en français, essaye  /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:10] <Fuchs> amine: else we will gladly help you in english here :)
[23:10] <OerHeks> SilfenX_, you need to install it first.
[23:11] <SilfenX_> OerHeks: I tried sudo apt-get install ppt-purge ?
[23:11] <SilfenX_> it didnt work
[23:12] <germanxn>  im tring to get this configuration on vim
[23:12] <germanxn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk285Zc5_Zw&feature=related
[23:12] <germanxn> but i cant install plugins
[23:12] <moepigalj23> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[23:12] <DJones> moepigalj23: Please stop spamming
[23:13] <moepigalj23> DJones k
[23:14] <amine> re
[23:14] <webnet> Pupuser: u still here
[23:14] <germanxn> when i "make install" on the plugin directory
[23:14] <Amon-Ra> guys, how do i change language through keyboard?
[23:14] <Amon-Ra> switch language
[23:14] <germanxn> it says something la vimball cannot read file <>
[23:14] <Amon-Ra> i have a fresh install
[23:15] <webnet> Amon-Ra, System > Preferances>Keyboard
[23:15] <webnet> :D
[23:15] <webnet> Amon-Ra, everything still working all good?
[23:15] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes!! i just came back home, updated to 11.10 perfect!
[23:16] <Amon-Ra> webnet: great!!
[23:16] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Glad to hear that!
[23:16] <mhsy> hey
[23:16] <webnet> Amon-Ra, did you find what you were looking for in the keyboard config menu?
[23:16] <mhsy> xchat is not captured by alt+tab
[23:16] <mhsy> is that a bug?
[23:17] <webnet> mhsy, um idk. never seen that
[23:17] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i don't find the toggle about the language...
[23:17] <mhsy> 11.10 unity?
[23:17] <webnet> mhsy, it probably is, but i doubt is going to cause problems
[23:17] <mhsy> ok
[23:18] <webnet> Oh crap. lol Amon-Ra... i forgot u r on unity. lol. let me give you the cli name. open a terminal
[23:19] <Amon-Ra> webnet: how? :)
[23:19] <SilfenX_> which application should be associated with deb packages to be able to install one just double clicking it from the desktop under gnome?
[23:20] <webnet> idk. lol. i hate unity for that. try searching for keyboard in the unity menu
[23:20] <Amon-Ra> i am sorry but i never used this again :) which menu is the unity menu ?:
[23:20] <webnet> SilfenX_, um that would be dpkg
[23:20] <wspardaw> hi
[23:21] <webnet> SilfenX_, but it would open in the ubuntu software center
[23:21] <mhsy> webnet: not there
[23:21] <webnet> top left ubuntu button
[23:21] <Amon-Ra> oh ok
[23:21] <wspardaw> how u all doing
[23:21] <webnet> mhsy, what isnt?
[23:21] <wspardaw> i have a question people
[23:21] <Amon-Ra> ok i searched for keyboard, i see 5-6 results
[23:21] <webnet> wspardaw, good and you?
[23:22] <mhsy> can't find the option to change the keyboard layout
[23:22] <SilfenX_> i m running a virtual desktop via vnc using gnome-core component only, not a full desktop env. The window popping up displaying apps to associate with doesnt contain anything called dpkg
[23:22] <webnet> wspardaw, ok
[23:22] <webnet> what are the options? Amon-Ra. and where did you check mhsy ?
[23:22] <mhsy> i had it set up back in 9.04
[23:22] <wspardaw> why isnt anybody connected to the channel ubuntu-bugs?
[23:22] <mhsy> so it was already configured
[23:23] <webnet> mhsy oh
[23:23] <Amon-Ra> webnet: keyboard layout, keyboard input methods, keyboard, universal access, onboard, input method switcher
[23:23] <ubuntu_n00b> hi, i've got a question about correcting the time displayed in ubuntu. i'm running dual boot windows home XP SP3 and the lastest version of ubuntu (11.X). i found a link that describes how to fix the problem, but i don't know how to imput the command.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Make_Linux_use_.27Local.27_time the command is "edit /etc/default/rcS"
[23:23] <mhsy> i checked in keyboard layout (including options), and keyboard (including under shortcuts)
[23:23] <webnet> wspardaw, cause were all here! :P
[23:23] <wspardaw> ok
[23:23] <Pupuser> webnet: sorry i lost wifi for a moment, did you find a program?
[23:23] <webnet> choose the keyboard leyout on Amon-Ra isnt tht waht you were looking for?
[23:23] <wspardaw> I am just starting to join the bugs team
[23:23] <ubuntu_n00b> and then you've got to change ubutu to recognise local time
[23:24] <mhsy> he wants to switch layouts with a key combo
[23:24] <Amon-Ra> webnet: yes i added the second language there....but how do i switch from english to greek and greek to english with keyboard?
[23:24] <luckyone> hello all - my icons in nautilus are all gone - everything looks very gnome 2 ish...
[23:24] <luckyone> any idea what happened?
[23:24] <webnet> Pupuser... its actually harder to do than i thought. i think this MAY help you though...idk
[23:24] <mhsy> ubuntu_n00b: press alt+ctrl+T to open up terminal
[23:24] <webnet> pm me if you need anything Pupuser
[23:24] <ubuntu_n00b> i tried that
[23:24] <wspardaw> any advise in where to start ? please
[23:25] <ubuntu_n00b> but ubuntu didn't recognize the command
[23:25] <mhsy> sudo?
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> wspardaw  with what?
[23:25] <mhsy> what ubuntu are you using right now?
[23:25] <wspardaw> with contributing to the bugs team
[23:25] <webnet> Amon-Ra, OHHHHHHH1 lol. ok gotcha.
[23:25] <MonkeyDust> wspardaw  visit launchpad
[23:25] <L3d> action!
[23:25] <L3d> hi folks
[23:25] <ubuntu_n00b> mhsy: can i just paste the command as written?
[23:26] <wspardaw> i did and register and signed and i have already been accepted in the team
[23:26] <L3d> say why can i only vieuw https://www.youtube ,and no other https stuf WTF
[23:26] <webnet> luckyone, you probably (by you i mean something on the machine :D ) changed to icon set to none
[23:26] <mhsy> ubuntu_noob: since it is in /etc, you have to be root
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> wspardaw  glad you found out \0/
[23:26] <mhsy> ubuntu_noob: so "sudo edit /etc/default/rcS"
[23:26] <L3d> someone care to enlighten me about this situation ?
[23:27] <webnet> wspardaw, MonkeyDust Agreed. visit the ubuntu bugs page on launchpad
[23:27] <luckyone> webnet: that sounds fair - any idea how to change it back?
[23:27] <webnet> can you get to the display or appearance menu?
[23:27] <luckyone> webnet: I haven't installed gnome-tweak-tool
[23:27] <ubuntu_n00b> this is the error message i get: Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/default/rcS" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[23:27] <ubuntu_n00b> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[23:27] <ubuntu_n00b> matt@n1:~$
[23:27] <brightspark> luckyone, System>Preferences>Appearance
[23:27] <tjiggi_fo> Amon-Ra, shortcut is both ALT keys together
[23:28] <webnet> can you get to the display or appearance menu? luckyone
[23:28] <luckyone> webnet: yeah, I have been to both of those, I don't see where to change the icons
[23:28] <webnet> ok choose your theme and then click customize button
[23:28] <mhsy> ubuntu_n00b: pm. you will get lost here
[23:28] <webnet> Lyckyone^^
[23:28] <luckyone> Amon-Ra: !!! woah! did you write the recovery?
[23:28] <Amon-Ra> luckyone: what do you mean?
[23:28] <Amon-Ra> tjiggi_fo: it doesnt seem to work
[23:29] <webnet> luckyone, did you see what i said
[23:29] <webnet> ?
[23:29] <ubuntu_n00b> how do i PM? right click on your handle and select IM?
[23:29] <webnet> yes^^
[23:29] <luckyone> brightspark: from there I have Ambiance selected, but icons in nautilus are still all blank
[23:29] <brightspark> luckyone, customize button> icons tab.  Select your favorite.
[23:30] <L3d> wahts a good net-monitor ??
[23:30] <luckyone> brightspark: from 11.10 Appearance screen, I see no customize button
[23:30] <Amon-Ra> is there a key shortcut to toggle between installed languages to write??
[23:31] <brightspark> luckyone, perhaps it has been moved- I am on 10.10.  Can anyone confirm this?
[23:31] <L3d> how come i can only connect to youtube with https over this here so called network ,anyonw ??
[23:31] <luckyone> webnet: any ideas?
[23:31] <L3d> ehh annyone
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> !details| L3d
[23:32] <brightspark> luckyone, in 10.10 at least it is below and to the right, with buttons labelled delete, save as, and install.
[23:32] <L3d> ok 11.10 and i try to get on the net thru https:// and only youtube works ,how come ??
[23:32] <L3d> thnx monkeydust
[23:33] <L3d> got noscript but not for thius :p
[23:33] <fri3za> adblocker +
[23:33] <fri3za> is also good
[23:33] <fri3za> also ghostery
[23:33] <fri3za> its stops poeple from taking ur cookies
[23:33] <L3d> the other place i stayed at had the same thing ,also a guided living place of the same organisation
[23:34] <L3d> got adblock .. hmm need ghostery thnx dude
[23:34] <brightspark> luckyone, as per launchpad you can no longer change this information in 11.10 (this is by design)
[23:34] <L3d> also betterprivacy wrocks my s....
[23:34] <fri3za> also hgetp
[23:34] <excelsior> Greetings, fellows, I try to install abiword, but it tells me "Requires installation of untrusted packages" and provides only one option, OK, and then doesn't install. Do I go looking for a .deb or what?
[23:34] <fri3za> https everywere
[23:34] <L3d> i know it sucks ,thay prob got some other "thing" !@#$%^
[23:34] <fri3za> its encrypts anything supporting SSL on http
[23:35] <sparr> I am trying to confirm a bug on ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10, anyone have that and CPAN and willing to run a test for me?
[23:35] <L3d> so why whitelist youtube ?
[23:35] <fri3za> HTTPS_everywere
[23:35] <L3d> mean its like the https only lets youtueb thru ,like a virus
[23:35] <L3d> bla
[23:36] <L3d> alos i found some gold today heh
[23:36] <fri3za> im tlaking about a program called HTTPS-everywere
[23:36] <fri3za> its encrypts everything u do
[23:36] <fri3za> on ssl
[23:36] <fri3za> but the website has to support ssl
[23:36] <eigar> would this re-install desktop? dpkg --get-selection | sed -n "s/\(.*\(gnome\|unity\)[^ \t]*\).*/\1/p" | xargs apt-get --resinstall install
[23:36] <fri3za> so now your https: whould work
[23:36] <L3d> ipv4 is the only conn i get nbo ipv5 WEIRD
[23:37] <mongy> just use ssh -D
[23:37] <L3d> thats a good thing .. i need to remember this or write it down ,rolling a joint also hehe
[23:37] <L3d> eh ipv6
[23:37] <eigar> list all packages from dpkg that has name with gnome or unity and send them to apt-get --reinstall
[23:38] <Captain_Crow> i tried to run it and the screen got all glitchy and now i finally got the desktop to come up again, but compiz features wont work at all... anyone know what im doing wrong?
[23:38] <L3d> that sounds like synaptic use ,im soooo lazyy ,but i should
[23:38] <excelsior> I try to install abiword, but it tells me "Requires installation of untrusted packages" and provides only one option, OK, and then doesn't install. Do I go looking for a .deb or what?
[23:39] <L3d> there is a button under somethin ,some help me here
[23:39] <Captain_Crow> is compiz fusion normally glitchy?
[23:39] <brightspark> excelsior, are you using aptitude? apt-get? synaptic?
[23:39] <excelsior> I'm using the Software Center!
[23:39] <eigar> is there any other packages i should include?
[23:40] <gabe_> hey guys, my transmission bitTorrent client is using port 51413 but when I click the test button under the network settings it gives me a state of closed. I issued "sudo ufw allow 51413" followd by "sudo ufw enable 51413" and still shows as closed
[23:40] <MANCHUCK> i cannot find an article on how to install icrontab in ubuntu
[23:40] <MANCHUCK> anyone know now
[23:40] <L3d> Xvba -va -vaapi ?
[23:40] <gabe_> does anyone know what the problem would be please? it doesn't download anything because of this
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> MANCHUCK  please lowercase your nick -- cron is installed by default in ubuntu
[23:41] <MANCHUCK> not cron
[23:41] <MANCHUCK> icron
[23:41] <murfie> is er nog muziek?
[23:41] <MonkeyDust> murfie  hier niet
[23:41] <brightspark> excelsior, sorry I'm not terribly familiar with Software Centre's operation; I would suggest you try using apt-get as it tends to give you the most flexibility.
[23:41] <eoss> ive installed ssh on my ubuntu box and im trying to not have the server start when i turn on my PC
[23:42] <eoss> how do i turn off this feature
[23:42] <murfie> uhuh.. waar dan wel?
[23:42] <L3d> dude fileplanet MUST have ssl .........
[23:42] <gabe_> could someone help me please?
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> murfie  kijk eens in #ubuntu-nl-offtopic, met mijn groeten
[23:43] <Chucky1> hello, i have a question reguarding setting up a mail server on my server
[23:43] <Chucky1> i did not install any gui interface kde,gnome etc.. everything is command line based
[23:44] <Chucky1> i want to install a mail server on my server and i was wonder what is a good one that has a web interface to better manage the server?
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> Chucky1  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[23:44] <Chucky1> i read through that right
[23:44] <Chucky1> but it seems to be limited..
 eaven fileplanet dont work enc .....
[23:45] <Chucky1> i like the postfix mail server but i also need a web interface to manage it
[23:45] <L3d> gabe can i config your router/ somthin ?
[23:45] <eoss> ive installed ssh on my ubuntu box and im trying to not have the server start when i turn on my PC
[23:45] <genn> excelsior: are your sources ok? i just tried installing it now and it did not give me that message
[23:46] <gabe_> L3d: I'm sorry, what?
[23:46] <Chucky1> eoss remove all instances of ssh in your startup file
[23:46] <excelsior> I'm installing to Ubuntu 10.10
[23:46] <excelsior> Do you think that's it?
[23:46] <L3d> do u have your own modem/wifi ?
[23:46] <eoss> Chucky1: where is my startup file
[23:46] <NullZer0> wondering if anyone can help me. New computer just installed ubuntu - Intel motherboard using integrated graphics but can't get resolution right?
[23:46] <gabe_> yes
[23:46] <L3d> maybe you have changed the upload rate on the modem itslef ?
[23:47] <gabe_> not at all... and everything was working before
[23:47] <abstrakt> I'm getting this error when trying to install *any* of the nvidia drivers under xfce
[23:47] <abstrakt> 2011-12-09 18:46:05,413 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_173_updates).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt None
[23:47] <abstrakt> I don't have GNOME or KDE installed
[23:47] <abstrakt> would that be a problem?
[23:47] <L3d> my port is being blocked too ,but the ppl here "say " its broken down or something to keep uploading low .. but i have https errors so im not happy
[23:47] <whoever> need help to get kde headers to install quanta , i get this error when I try to configure :checking for KDE... configure: error:
[23:48] <whoever> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[23:48] <genn> excelsior: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[23:48] <whoever> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[23:48] <gabe_> it's just now that it suddenly stopped downloading... it sits there idle even though there are seeders
[23:48] <whoever> and  I have kdewebdev installed
[23:48] <excelsior> genn: how do I do that?
[23:48] <excelsior> is it ok to just let apt-get install it without it being "authenticated?"
[23:48] <abstrakt> here's the full paste from my logs
[23:48] <abstrakt> http://pastie.org/private/jhdlptqpegu9hd6tmmqna
[23:49] <mongy> eoss, sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[23:49] <excelsior> Install packages without verification? Y/n?
[23:49] <excelsior> y?
[23:49] <mhsy> y
[23:49] <enthdegree> What's the package name for kernel headers?
[23:49] <L3d> tr using deluge ,maybe with plug-ins or another client ,i know and have tohe patients to "wait " this out i know .. leave transmission ,and when u return after a day its done  SOMEHOW i dunno i know this all sucks .
[23:50] <L3d>  ehhh ok
[23:50] <Chucky1> esso you still there?
[23:50] <eoss> yup
[23:50] <L3d> ok queens o the stone age hehehe
[23:50] <eoss> I did what mongy says
[23:50] <eoss> thanks guys
[23:51] <Chucky1> update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[23:51] <Chucky1> ohh ok
[23:51] <Chucky1> he help you
[23:51] <Chucky1> ok
[23:51] <Chucky1> i wasnt paying attention
[23:51] <FloodBot1> Chucky1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:51] <abstrakt> enthdegree, build-essential I think will bring in kernel headers
[23:51] <abstrakt> I could be wrong
[23:51] <Chucky1> ok what would be a good mail server to use that has a web interface to manage the server
[23:51] <Chucky1> ?
[23:52] <L3d> angelfire ?
[23:52] <L3d> :p
[23:52] <L3d> lycos is on there
[23:52] <mongy> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`(uname -r)`
[23:53] <L3d> can u explain what i need to do to get a better ssh ? instead of ssl ..stuff
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> Chucky1  maybe this helps you decide which is best for your needs http://webserver.com/
[23:54] <L3d> but normally if one say youtube https works ,another say fileplanet should too , and it dont ,someone know why ?>
[23:55] <Chucky1> no wait
[23:55] <Chucky1> i dont need a mail server.
[23:55] <Chucky1> look
[23:55] <excelsior> sudo apt-get update fixed the problem, and then I didn't get the error when installing.
[23:56] <Chucky1> i have my own server.. i want to install a mail server
[23:56] <Chucky1> i would like to know which mail server software to use that has a web interface for easy management
[23:56] <Chucky1> ?
[23:56] <L3d> been a while need to try that again too
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> Chucky1  have you searched in the repos?
[23:57] <Chucky1> no because i dont know what im looking for
[23:57] <Chucky1> i had it setup years ago but its been awhile since ive done one
[23:58] <Chucky1> i cant even remember what i used before
[23:58] <Chucky1> been incarcerated for a few years
[23:58] <L3d> lol how do i actually install the udates i checked ion the console heh got that wrong the other time ..
[23:58] <Chucky1> apt-get install updates
[23:58] <Chucky1> apt-get install upgrades
[23:58] <Chucky1> reboot
[23:58] <L3d> thnx m8
[23:59] <L3d> will do .. ;)
[23:59] <Chucky1> those are 3 seperate commands homie