[15:19] <charlie-tca> To all the testers: we are now tracking daily testing on the qa.iso.ubuntu.com tracker
[15:19] <charlie-tca> Anybody able to do the full disk installs today?
[15:19] <madnick> yes, i will do it after the meeting
[15:19] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[15:20] <GridCube> charlie-tca, alternate 32bits on vbox full install, its ok?
[15:21] <charlie-tca> yes, that would be great! It should be working in VBox again
[15:21] <GridCube> :)
[16:13] <madnick> hehe, forgot which channel the meeting was in :(
[16:20] <GridCube> madnick, do you know what "detailer specifications" should say? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/DefaultMediaPlayer
[16:20] <GridCube> i mean, what is it for?
[16:22] <madnick> Sorry no
[16:23] <GridCube> mmkay
[16:23] <GridCube> will ask knome then
[16:23] <ochosi> GridCube: i think what needs to be done generally is an in-depth application comparison between the current and the proposed default
[16:24] <GridCube> yes, but when it try to do that my patent dislike for gmusicbrowser doesnt let me be... mmm... objetive?
[16:25] <ochosi> then you're probably not the right person for that job?
[16:25] <GridCube> i said that, but then again im the one who wants we using a good music player instead of gmb on xubuntu
[16:25] <ochosi> i'm not saying that you can't be biased, but your bias can't be the sole basis of an app-comparison
[16:25] <GridCube> and i have to find a way of doing so being objetive so its taking time :P
[16:26] <ochosi> taking time is fine
[16:26] <GridCube> thats why it has a huge "work in progress" there :P
[16:27] <ochosi> right
[16:28] <GridCube> hey ochosi question, i've accidentally deleted the sound applet from my panel
[16:28] <ochosi> well, doing an app-comparison really should include quite a wide variety of aspects, even stuff that has nothing to do with usability (e.g. maintenance, packaging, health of the project)
[16:28] <ochosi> you mean the indicator?
[16:28] <GridCube> yes 
[16:28] <GridCube> the one that also controls the music player
[16:28] <ochosi> then i guess you need to reinstall the package indicator-sound
[16:28] <GridCube> its installed, i've just removed it from the panel :/
[16:29] <ochosi> then you need to add the indicator-plugin back to the panel
[16:29] <ochosi> you can't remove one indicator by itself, you can only remove the whole plugin
[16:29] <GridCube> oooh
[16:29] <GridCube> its there now
[16:29] <GridCube> how weird
[16:30] <ochosi> why is that weird? :)
[16:30] <GridCube> because the indicator plugin was activated
[16:30] <GridCube> but just the sound thingy wasnt
[16:31] <ochosi> are you sure?
[16:31] <ochosi> e.g. nm-applet falls back to normal trayicon if you remove the indicator
[16:34] <GridCube> dunno
[16:34] <GridCube> there
[16:35] <GridCube> i lost the sound thingy again
[16:35] <Unit193> The testing page *FINALLY* let me login >_<
[16:36] <GridCube> the indicator plugin closes and restarts but the sound thingy doesnt come back if i do that, the nm-applet does tho
[16:36] <ochosi> then it's just nm-applet falling back to trayicon
[16:36] <GridCube> guess so
[16:36] <ochosi> what do you exactly mean when you're saying "it closes and restarts"?
[16:37] <GridCube> if i close the indicato plugin (left click > close) it restarts and it only has the nm-applet
[16:37] <charlie-tca> They are still working on the tracker page
[16:37] <ochosi> you mean "remove"?
[16:37] <GridCube> yes "Quitar"
[16:38] <astraljava> Indicator Plugin has a Guitar applet?! *cool*
[16:38] <ochosi> GridCube: that means you're removing it. if you want to keep the sound-indicator (and all other indicators for that matter) you can't remove it
[16:38] <ochosi> GridCube: it's like removing any other plugin from the panel and then saying "why isn't it there anymore"? :)
[16:39] <GridCube> yes i know, i just didnt knew how to get it back after accidentally removing it
[16:39] <ochosi> k :)
[16:39] <ochosi> bbl
[16:39] <GridCube> :)
[19:49] <pleia2> http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/12/xubuntu-unbelievable-easyness-of.html
[22:23] <GridCube> its unvelieble how long tests are being lately, this installation im doing has started 2 hours ago and i still have like 2 more hours to go according the installator
[22:35] <Unit193> I seem to know someone that's already running Pangolin of some sort (be it VM or not)
[22:42] <GridCube> i've installed it a few times already
[22:42] <GridCube> each time seems to take more time to install
[22:42] <Unit193> Keeps it though, updates and su7ch
[22:43] <GridCube> oh
[22:43] <GridCube> :)
[22:52] <GridCube> great had to reboot
[22:52] <GridCube> lost the installation