[00:46] <maiz> does anyone know on how arista-transcoder work in kubuntu11.10? mine seems to be not working
[01:50] <poyntz> I'm getting no sound on kubuntu oneiric. please help me diagnose the problem
[01:54] <holstein> poyntz: open a terminal... run a few commands and look for your audio device... look in
[01:54] <holstein> lspci
[01:54] <holstein> then, run these 2, which are more important... if you see the device here, all is well (usually)
[01:55] <holstein> aplay -l
[01:55] <holstein> arecord -l
[01:58] <poyntz> holstein: lspci | grep audio didn't find anything :S
[01:58] <holstein> poyntz: how about when you just run lspci, and look?
[01:59] <poyntz> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:59] <poyntz> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV710/730
[01:59] <holstein> cool
[01:59] <poyntz> holstein: it was case sensitive
[01:59] <holstein> and aplay -l ?
[02:00] <poyntz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765533/
[02:01] <holstein> poyntz: cool... so its likely just something fiddly with the volume applet, or the wires
[02:01] <holstein> is this a fresh install for you? or something that broke after an update?
[02:01] <poyntz> fresh install
[02:02] <poyntz> on ext4
[02:02] <poyntz> I tried updating originally but it broke
[02:02] <holstein> poyntz: you can open alsamixer in the terminal, and try tweaking everything there a bit
[02:02] <holstein> dont trust the labels
[02:05] <poyntz> no lock :(
[02:05] <poyntz> *luck
[02:09] <holstein> poyntz: which?
[02:09] <holstein> alsa mixer?
[02:09] <holstein> checking the cables?
[02:09] <holstein> when is the last time you heard sound from that system?
[02:10] <poyntz> before the last apt-get update & upgrade
[02:10] <holstein> poyntz: ?
[02:10] <holstein> so its not a fresh install?
[02:10] <poyntz> it is
[02:10] <holstein> do you have the last kernel there?
[02:11] <holstein> poyntz: if it were my system, i would try the LIVE CD of the last time it worked, and confirm that the hardware is fuctioning
[02:11] <poyntz> i installed fresh from a live install on the existing ext4 partition
[02:11] <holstein> then, i would try going one way or the other with ALSA
[02:12] <holstein> if theres a front and back port, try the other one
[02:12] <poyntz> holstein, what i meant is it was working off the fresh installation
[02:12] <poyntz> i thing something broke during my last few updates
[02:12] <holstein> poyntz: OK... so do you have an older kernel there?
[02:12] <holstein> try booting that older kernel
[02:13] <holstein> you might need to unhide grub, or i think you can hit shift to show grub temporarily
[02:13] <poyntz> wouldn't the fresh installation replace the old kernal?
[02:13] <holstein> poyntz: yes, im just not following you
[02:13] <holstein> i thought you said audio worked on the fresh install, then you udated
[02:13] <poyntz> yep
[02:13] <poyntz> true
[02:13] <holstein> either way, look for an older kernel
[02:14] <poyntz> i updated a few packages
[02:14] <poyntz> cant remember which ones
[02:14] <holstein> if you have one, boot it, and test
[02:15] <poyntz> i don't think i do
[02:15] <holstein> poyntz: well, boot and check.. it literally wont hurt to see if you do or not
[02:16] <poyntz> i don't
[02:16] <poyntz> gah, i'll do it anyway
[02:16] <poyntz> brb
[02:16] <holstein> i think you'll find the fix to this in a kernel or alsa up/down grade
[02:17] <maiz> I can't use arista-transcoder in kubuntu 11.10 , anyone know how?
[02:18] <holstein> i would probably just try another transcoder
[02:18] <holstein> maiz: whats the error?
[02:19] <maiz> holstein: hold on..
[02:19] <maiz> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765549/
[02:20] <maiz> holstein: im not really sure where to start..just install some dependencies needed..yet still..do i need to sudo?
[02:21] <holstein> maiz: you can try gksudo i suppose
[02:21] <holstein> i wouldnt imagine why you would need to, nor feel comfortable running it as root all the time
[02:21] <maiz> holstein: okey..i try first...
[02:21] <maiz> holstein: yes, exactly
[02:22] <poyntz> holstein: no luck :/
[02:22] <poyntz> i'm on the old linux image
[02:22] <poyntz> 3.0.0-12
[02:23] <poyntz> still no sound
[02:23] <szal> is anyone informed what was changed from 11.04 to 11.10 to make KDE correctly recognize the difference between the Regular and Semibold weights of the Ubuntu font?
[02:23] <holstein> poyntz: i would look at ALSA, and step that back down a rev
[02:23] <maiz> holstein: I just wanted to reduce my video file size from 172++
[02:23] <maiz> holstein: ffmpeg recommend?
[02:24] <holstein> maiz: i have no idea... what was the error as root?
[02:24] <poyntz> holstein: could it be a driver issue?
[02:25] <holstein> poyntz: sure, but you just tried the older ones
[02:26] <maiz> holstein: nothing..let me try first, and try to workit out
[02:28] <szal> yofel: do you have any insight in this respect?
[02:28] <poyntz> holstein: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/902410
[02:29] <maiz> anyone know a good transcoder for kubuntu?
[02:29] <szal> maiz: define 'transcoder'
[02:29] <poyntz> holstein: one person commented that my microphone is mutes, which doesn't make sense to me, as I haven't switched it to mute
[02:29] <poyntz> holstein: the output amp is mutes
[02:30] <poyntz> *muted
[02:30] <maiz> szal: i want to make/convert my video file size...
[02:30] <maiz> szal: render video from kdenlive make the file bigger
[02:35] <jcarlos_> hi everyone
[02:40] <holstein> poyntz: so you have sound now?
[02:44] <poyntz> no luck :(
[03:28] <poyntz> please help me sort out my audio
[03:28] <poyntz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/902410
[03:59] <M41nFr4m3>  hi im on 10.04 and when i try to connec to my wifi i see the two green dots and the blue thing goin and the wep key keyring keeps showing up i was connected to my router just fine yesterday i am currently on the SAME router, only on windows. which connects just fine
[03:59] <M41nFr4m3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765585/
[04:00] <M41nFr4m3> it'd be nicee if i could get some help
[04:00] <M41nFr4m3> on this
[04:00] <holstein> naught101: did you upgrade?
[04:01] <naught101> holstein: me?
[04:03] <M41nFr4m3> ....
[04:03] <M41nFr4m3> it'd be nicee if i could get some help
[04:04] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: keyring?
[04:04] <M41nFr4m3> u kno
[04:04] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: did you set any password or anything..
[04:04] <M41nFr4m3> the thing where u have to put in the wep key
[04:04] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: no, im not sure, im farr from expert here
[04:04] <M41nFr4m3> u never used wifi b4?
[04:05] <M41nFr4m3> that has an ecryption key
[04:05] <holstein> naught101: sorry!
[04:05] <naught101> holstein: no worries :)
[04:06] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: im using mine right now
[04:06] <holstein> :)
[04:06] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: what is your password, try to type in your password to the keyring thingy
[04:06] <maiz> if you have kwallet or something..
[04:06] <M41nFr4m3> ive done it numerous times
[04:07] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: oh!?
[04:07] <M41nFr4m3> i was connected yesterday
[04:07] <M41nFr4m3> all day
[04:07] <M41nFr4m3> and im connected now
[04:07] <M41nFr4m3> im on windows tho
[04:07] <maiz> M41nFr4m3: have you try to unplug the device and plug it again? the wifi adapter or something ..
[04:08] <M41nFr4m3> yep
[04:08] <M41nFr4m3> prolly cant help me thnx neway
[04:17] <skierpage> what's up with Kubuntu 12.04?  Most of the problems I'm having with Nepomuk are supposedly fixed in newer software, so should I try futzing with Project Neon or wait for 12.04 alpha?
[04:17] <szal> skierpage: -> #ubuntu+1 please
[04:20] <skierpage> szal, OK. Is that also the place to ask about http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE ?
[04:20]  * szal has no idea what Project Neon even is
[04:23] <skierpage> szal, User: "Software doesn't work". Developer: "Good news, fixed in the current version!" User: ??!? upgrade to pre-alpha, switch to a more current distro, download nightly packages (Project Neon, I think), or rebuild the whole thing from scratch.
[05:01] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[05:02] <kamilnadeem> Is the folder widget part of Kubuntu default plasma desktop, I mean when you did your installation was it it on the when you ran Kubuntu 11.10 for the first time >?
[05:03] <kamilnadeem> Folder View*
[06:02] <maiz> kamilnadeem: yes
[06:23] <excognac> hi all
[06:24] <Firefishe> hi excognac
[06:24] <Firefishe> I'm using oneiric 11.10, and a nautilus window opens every time I log in to kde.  It happens in gnome, as well.  Any idea how to stop this?
[06:25] <excognac> Why is that the kernel update appears in apper and muod but does not wanna get done with apt-get update? Repositories set properly
[06:25] <excognac> Firefishe: no idea, I have trouble with logging out
[06:26] <Firefishe> excognac: What happens when you log out?
[06:26] <Firefishe> or try to?
[06:26] <excognac> debugging. BTW Firefishe: You mean Dolphin<
[06:27] <excognac> And debugging tells me plasma desktop crash
[06:27] <excognac> every single logout
[06:27] <Firefishe> excognac: You may have to do:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (but be careful here.)  After doing:  sudo apt-get upgrade - sometimes a kernel release indicates it has been held back.  This is usually found at the end of the upgrade output.
[06:28] <Firefishe> excognac: I mean nautilus.  I log in to kde, a nautilus window opens up.  I haven't found a way to disable it.
[06:29] <Firefishe> excognac: Additionally to the above:  You may do a:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -- after the upgrade process, if you want to play with the held-back kernel release.
[06:29] <Firefishe> anyone please correct me or add more if needed
[06:34] <excognac>  Firefishe So those are sort of beta kernel upgrades?
[06:36] <Firefishe> excognac: Generally speaking, if the end of an upgrade (not dist-upgrade) process says something like 'these packages held back' (they'll usually be listed by name), I would say yes.  It has been my own personal experience that this usually, but not always, almost always applies to kernels; sometimes other packages are affected, though.  The output will give indication.
[06:37] <Firefishe> excognac: As I like to be on the bleeding-edge, I usually do the dist-upgrade to get the latest kernel releases, bugs and all ;).
[06:38] <excognac> ok thank you Firefishie
[09:05] <liudas> hello! is there any way to turb off bug/crash reporting
[09:06] <liudas> it became reallu annoing while i am interuptet tu seng crash reports almost everytime i try to turn off computer
[09:06] <liudas> usually it sais something about plasma crash
[09:06] <liudas> i use kubuntu 11.10
[09:07] <Peace-> liudas: what?
[09:08] <Peace-> liudas: are you french ?
[09:08] <liudas> ok. almost everytime i am shuting down computer i recieve bug report window
[09:08] <liudas> no i'm not
[09:09] <liudas> well, i got already nervouse about that
[09:09] <bbeck> liudas: I get the same thing.  A plasma crash window often appears when I log out.
[09:09] <liudas> so i'm loking forward to do somethink not to see that problem report
[09:10] <liudas> so i'm not the only one
[09:10] <liudas> any solution?
[09:10] <Peace-> kde version ?
[09:10] <liudas> 4.7.2
[09:10] <Peace-> mmm you could try to upgrade kde
[09:11] <liudas> how?
[09:11] <Peace-> liudas: it seems btw a issue with your video card
[09:11] <liudas> it's intel video
[09:11] <Peace-> liudas: try to disable destkop effect
[09:11] <bbeck> I get it in 4.7.3, but hopefully on your box an upgrade fixes it.
[09:11] <liudas> whitch?
[09:11] <Peace-> liudas: oh ok it's a driver problem then...
[09:11] <koleoptero> liudas: I see that too with 4.7.3 and with intel video
[09:11] <Peace-> INTEL DRIVER HAS PROBLEM RIGHT NOT
[09:11] <Peace-> NOW
[09:12] <Peace-> there is a bug report i guess
[09:12] <koleoptero> yes it does
[09:12] <liudas> ok so what i can do? wait until it will be fixed?
[09:13] <bbeck> I have not tried turning off the logout kwin effects, perhaps that has something to do with it.
[09:13] <liudas> or is there any way to disable bug reporting for awile
[09:13] <liudas> i turned of fade off effect at logout - didn't help
[09:13] <Peace-> liudas: if you are a noob wait
[09:14] <Peace-> if you are not you could upgrade to 4.7.4 thatis the latest stable release
[09:14] <liudas> ok guys thant you indead
[09:14] <liudas> upgrade from kubuntu ppa?
[09:14] <koleoptero> Peace-: that wasn't very nice now was it :P
[09:15] <Peace-> liudas: you could try to upgrade intel drivers...
[09:15] <Peace-> or upgrade kde...
[09:15] <Peace-> i think it's not safe for normal users btw
[09:15] <Peace-> i mean wait for the fix
[09:16] <Peace-> i have heard about this bug on intel video driver
[09:16] <liudas> ok thank you
[09:16] <liudas> have a good and happy day :)
[09:16] <Peace-> liudas: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/876762
[09:17] <Peace-> ah this is on login
[09:17] <Peace-> xD
[09:17] <koleoptero> well login is fine here lol
[09:19] <Peace-> it's the driver
[09:19] <Peace-> they did something of wrong so for some card is login and for some is logout
[09:20] <koleoptero> well tbh I had been using kubuntu for a month till last week (distro-hopping) and again since yesterday and despite that bug everything works perfectly (amazingly so) so it's not much of a problem if you think about it
[09:21] <Peace-> i have no issue on kubuntu
[09:21] <Peace-> i have never had big problems on kubuntu
[09:23] <koleoptero> does anyone here know what that update-apt-xapian thing is doing? It is very often using 100% of my cpu for several minutes at which point the system slows down to a crawl
[09:25] <Peace-> koleoptero: another bug :)
[09:25] <Peace-> koleoptero: it try to indicize your package list or something like that
[09:25] <Peace-> koleoptero: kill the beast
[09:25] <koleoptero> I've grown tired of killing it lol
[09:25] <Peace-> hahahaha
[09:25] <koleoptero> now I usually just stop doing anything till it stops
[09:26] <koleoptero> I'll check what it comes with and ditch it if I can
[09:32] <koleoptero> chmod -x update-apt-xapian should do the trick lol
[09:40] <Peace-> koleoptero: yes it does
[10:33] <phoenix_firebrd> is there a channel for digikam?
[10:34] <phoenix_firebrd> digikam crashes and i have the crash log, if anyone interested i will paste the log
[10:45] <yofel_> szal: not really, iirc the font itself got updated, but that's all I know
[10:45] <Kottizen> phoenix_firebrd: can you report it as a bug?
[10:46] <phoenix_firebrd> Kottizen:  i am just doing that
[10:46] <phoenix_firebrd> Kottizen: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287099
[10:46] <Kottizen> phoenix_firebrd: wonderful :)
[10:47] <Kottizen> phoenix_firebrd: you're Swedish?
[10:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Kottizen: no , why do you ask?
[10:48] <Kottizen> ah, never mind, just saw that you replied to a bug report
[10:48] <szal> yofel: yeah, found that out myself, they just left the Medium weight out
[10:49] <phoenix_firebrd> Kottizen: no i just added my comment after showing you the bug report check the page again , mine is the 4th comment
[10:51] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone here have power to change a bug report status
[10:53] <jubo2> wow. the upgrades fixed the wlan :D
[10:54] <jubo2> and peace too
[10:57] <jubo2> anyways.. Wicd might have helped yeah but still .. whoa. the upgradees whoa.. now if I just could get audible alerts and bubbles turned on and the Compiz Scale-plugin turned back on I'd be one happy compuuter camper
[10:57] <pj_> hi
[11:04] <liudas> I bet I wount be the first to ask this question: when and where we will be able to try kde 4.8 on kununtu? :)
[11:07] <phoenix_firebrd> liudas: what to try 4.8 right now?
[11:09] <phoenix_firebrd> liudas: use project-neon  to try 4.8 now, else if you want 4.8 normal release wait till feb 2012
[11:10] <liudas> thanx buddy
[11:34] <phoenix_firebrd> liudas: yw
[12:06] <sercan> ubuntu 11.10 dan 12.04 e güncelledim
[12:06] <sercan> şimdi de 12.04 den 11.10 a geri almak için ne yapmam gerekiyor
[12:06] <sercan> google arama motoruna sordum ama belki de yanlış sormuş olabiliriim bulamadım
[12:14] <frogonwheels> !es
[12:14] <frogonwheels> err no, that's not spanish. sorry
[12:15] <sercan> türkce bilen yokmu:)
[12:22] <szal> how can one take Turkish for Spanish? :o
[12:24] <Kottizen> !no
[13:17] <lokifaer> bonjour à tous
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:58] <kereell> hi guyz)
[15:00] <kereell> first night with kubuntu
[16:06] <teij> salut
[16:29] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[16:29] <kamilnadeem> The calculator widget is not working in Kubuntu 11.10?
[16:30] <Torch> kamilnadeem: works for me
[16:30] <Torch> kamilnadeem: what's wrong with it for you?
[16:31] <kamilnadeem> strange, I am only able to press 1234 as I press 5 or 6.... teh calcutor returns to 0?
[16:31] <kamilnadeem> that is clears out ?
[16:31] <Torch> kamilnadeem: you're right. happens here too
[16:32] <kamilnadeem> Torch: Is it the first time you have checled it.
[16:32] <Torch> kamilnadeem: yes. i don't use it normally.
[16:33] <kamilnadeem> Torch: Well but it should work. Right.
[16:33] <Torch> kamilnadeem: absolutely. it appears it has a serious bug.
[16:34] <kamilnadeem> Let's call out to some experienced user in here.
[16:35] <kamilnadeem> Blueskaj You here?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, not an experienced user with the calculator ...haven't used it in ages :)
[16:36] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj:  :D
[16:36] <kamilnadeem> Is it happening on your side too?
[16:38] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, Kcalc works fine here
[16:39] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Not that but the calculator widget ?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> ok , hang on
[16:40] <BarkingFish> kamilnadeem: Confirmed
[16:40] <BarkingFish> This happens here too
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yup, here as well
[16:41] <BluesKaj> kcalc works fine tho , so there's an alternative
[16:42] <BarkingFish> Seems to work sort of OK if you use the numpad on your keyboard, but still resets to 0 sometimes if you hit the 5 or 6 key in a number
[16:42] <BluesKaj> a lot of these widgets are crappy ..the weather stn assumes we all live in the US for example
[16:42] <Torch> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281484
[16:42] <kamilnadeem> :( , I was writing about the activities in KDE for my blogpost on Kubuntu 11.10 , had made a wise screenshot how activity helps a student and hence placed Calculator widget , calculated and phew it is not working
[16:43] <BarkingFish> Bug title on that is wrongish, it doesn't like numbers with 5's or 6;s in them, regardless how long they are
[16:43] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: I was able to configure my city "Lucknow" in both the wather widgets.
[16:44] <kamilnadeem> weather*
[16:44]  * BluesKaj doesn't rely on widgets much
[16:44] <Torch> BarkingFish: i don't think that is the case.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, nice to hear. I gave up on the weather widget 2yrs ago or so
[16:45] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: :) I also personally keep three widgets. Folder view , analog clock and system monitor.
[16:46] <BarkingFish> Torch: I just tried it here - I added 446 to 225 and as I hit the 5, the screen set to 0 - I hit enter to get the answer, and it gave me "ERROR"
[16:46] <BarkingFish> I've added a note to 281484
[16:46] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: good
[16:47] <Torch> BarkingFish: it does accept 5 and 6 for me, however: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/10/plasma-desktopa22135.jpg
[16:47] <BarkingFish> Torch: Which KDE version?
[16:48] <Torch> BarkingFish: 4.7.3
[16:48] <BarkingFish> I'm on 4.7.2
[16:48] <kamilnadeem> Torch: Same here
[16:48] <BarkingFish> This has been in since pre 4.7.1 apparently
[16:48] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: what distro
[16:48] <BarkingFish> Kubuntu 11.10
[16:48] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: ? haven't you received the 4.7.3 updates ?
[16:49] <BarkingFish> I won't upgrade to 4.7.3 until they fix plasma and sort out the numerous mass of bugs and assorted cockups which went with it.
[16:49] <BarkingFish> I downgraded from 4.7.3 3 days after I first tried it
[16:49] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: what all problems are you having
[16:50] <kamilnadeem> and was 4.7.2 working well, I am also having some crash issues with 4.7.3
[16:50] <kamilnadeem> I am doubting whether KDE is good for a total new user to land on ? :(
[16:51] <BarkingFish> Plasma desktop keeps dying at will, and twice took my entire machine down with it, failure to get network manager to work with ndiswrapper, panel keeps locking up and won't respond to anything - kernel panics on trying to use kstars, kdenlive, kontact, gimp, gwenview and about 20 other packages...
[16:51] <BarkingFish> do you want me to keep going or do you have a good idea? :)
[16:51] <holstein> i think moving from *any* thing to somehting else is harder than just booting up something new, and learning it
[16:52] <Torch> BarkingFish: graphics card and driver?
[16:52] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: No way :D , I am only facing random crashing(doesn't takes the system down)
[16:52] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, I'm using the 12 hr AM/PM widget clock , analog desktop clock , and now the weather stn , which finally works for my location
[16:52] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: Nice
[16:52] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: Nice :)
[16:52] <BarkingFish> Torch: ATI Radeon SE is the card, don't know what the driver is, or how to check
[16:52] <kamilnadeem> BarkingFish: that "Nice" was for BluesKaj
[16:53] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, have you considered using wicd-kde for your wifi NM?
[16:53] <kamilnadeem> Guys I am thinking of using Kcalc instead of that calculator widget for my blogpost
[16:54] <BarkingFish> yep, tried it before - it works with ndiswrapper but won't connect to wpa-psk and wpa2 networks, BluesKaj
[16:54] <kamilnadeem> or let me see if there is some other calculator plasmoid available for install
[16:54] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, well ,then at least you advising ppl to use an app that works :)
[16:54] <BarkingFish> even though I know the password is correct, wicd-kde insists that it's not
[16:55] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, it shouldn't need ndiswrapper
[16:55] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: That is the point , My blog is intended for those total new users and one doesn't want to drop them on something that is not working
[16:56]  * BluesKaj nods
[16:56] <BarkingFish> no, but my wifi adapter does to make it work, BluesKaj - the native module doesn't operate it
[16:56] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj: :)
[16:57] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, what model wifi adapter/chip ?
[16:57] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: Siemens Gigaset USB 108, Atheros AR5523 chip
[16:57] <BarkingFish> should work on ath5k, but the VPID isn't in the list of supported equipment on that module
[17:00] <BluesKaj> is the actual module ath5k
[17:01] <BarkingFish> yes
[17:01] <BarkingFish> ath5k is supposed to support the atheros 5xxx series of wifi chips
[17:01] <kamilnadeem> It seems I have to use Kcalc for the post , well it works. :)
[17:02] <kamilnadeem> Take care everyone
[17:06] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, is this an anomaly , that your particular wifi chip isn't supported , seems rather odd to me... wonder if it could be the router settings WPA/PSK ..maybe some invstigation into the router wifi setup is in order
[17:08] <BarkingFish>  BluesKaj - I think it's a mistake that the chip isn't supported.  I've googled various linux topics in association with the VPID (129B:160C) and i can find stuff which is supposed to be supported (madwifi, etc) but doesn't work at all.
[17:08] <BarkingFish> The only way I can get the stick to fire up is using ndiswrapper with the original net5523.inf from the disk which came with it, as the driver
[17:09] <BarkingFish> I'm using the stick right now, and it works a treat.  I just wish it had operational native support instead of my having to go through the rigmarole of setting up ndiswrapper
[17:12] <BluesKaj> ok, BarkingFish , at least it works
[17:14] <darkfine> whats going on?
[17:15] <BarkingFish> If you'd've hung round long  enough, we'd have told you :P
[17:17] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: hi - I reinstalled the system and it still didn't work, so I suspect it's a bug in the driver
[17:17] <Kottizen> BluesKaj: tried to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737, and it lead me to the outdated tutorial of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[17:17] <Kottizen> manually changed the repository's name to natty and it worked, but I the kernel version was incorrect
[17:18] <Kottizen> so I'm kinda stuck
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Kottizen,  ok ...this might more up to date http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Setup_audio_over_HDMI_on_nVidia_GeForce/nForce_controller
[17:19] <Kottizen> oh thanks - will try that!
[17:23] <BluesKaj> Kottizen, I was going to mention yesterday, the .asoundrc file is also required but i got sidetracked by the kernel module mixup.
[17:41] <anton__> !ru
[17:57] <darthanubis> kde 4.8beta aka 4.79?
[17:57] <darthanubis> any chance we will get that?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> maybe on 12.04
[17:58] <darthanubis> how about 4.7.4?
[17:59] <darthanubis> http://dot.kde.org/2011/12/07/stable-update-474-and-testing-release-48-beta2-available
[18:01] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, I'm running 12.04  which uses kde 4.7.3 by default
[18:07] <darthanubis> BluesKaj: not worried about 4.7.3 as I have that in 11.10. I asked about what the link I dropped is talking about? If not 4.7.8 then 4.7.4 making into 11.10?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, dunno , I'm not real concerned
[18:09] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, it's up to you to try alpha/beta applications , but I would go to #KDE to find out more
[18:11] <darthanubis> what are you talking about? Find what from #KDE?
[18:11] <darthanubis> I'm asking will 4.7.4 be available in some form of PPA to 11.10 like every other update release?
[18:12] <darthanubis> I also am not polling for "concern"
[18:13] <darthanubis> If someone is knowledgable about the topic, then they can advise. If not, or they don't understand the question, then they need not be concerned with my query.
[18:13] <BluesKaj> then stop polling , this is not the room for alph/beta application support
[18:13] <darthanubis> it was not a poll
[18:13] <darthanubis> it was a question
[18:13] <darthanubis> not looking for support
[18:14] <darthanubis> you aer obviously confused
[18:14] <BluesKaj> it takes a question to poll
[18:28] <zeppo> how can i reenable a internal audio device removed by kde? (i got a message that an internal audio device was removed and if i want to forget this device yes/no. i clicked yes, and i want to undo that)
[18:30] <BluesKaj> zeppo, did you remove an audio application like plseaudio or some such ?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio
[18:31] <zeppo> BluesKaj: no
[18:31] <zeppo> check this
[18:31] <BluesKaj> or install new audio hardware ?
[18:31] <zeppo> BluesKaj: http://osdir.com/ml/kde-linux/2010-05/msg00000.html
[18:31] <zeppo> no its a kde bug
[18:31] <zeppo> or feature
[18:31] <zeppo> (happens on every upgrade)
[18:35] <BluesKaj> ok zeppo , sudo apt-get install-reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils , then reboot , don't click yes if that phonon dialog pops up when you relogin
[18:35] <BluesKaj> oops zeppo wait ..correction
[18:35] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils
[18:40] <zeppo> BluesKaj: ok brb
[19:03] <zeppo_> BluesKaj: tried it didnt work
[19:04] <zeppo_> how can i tell the system to rescan my devices and load device modules on boot?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> ok zeppo_ , you might have to remove pulseaudio . after rebooting you should get that phonon dialog again , then you'll have to install pulseaudio again and reload alsa , sudo alsa force-reload
[19:10] <Snowhog> Kubuntu 11.10, KDE 4.7.3. Anyone know if/how to prevent Ksplash from scaling the background? I see that there are two binaries: /usr/bin/ksplashx and /usr/bin/ksplahs_scale. Is it as simple as using update_alternatives and creating a symlink to ksplashx?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Snowhog, I just use the desktop settings (rightclick on the desktop) , and under positioning = scaled , works fine on my large screen monitor
[19:21] <Snowhog> BluesKaj: But that is for the Desktop Wallpaper. I'm talking about the background image that Ksplash uses after you login via KDM. KDM doesn't scale the background, but Ksplash does, and that makes for an uneven transition. This is happening because Ksplash is scaling by default the image it is pointed to.
[19:21] <zeppo> BluesKaj: i fixed the phonon problem
[19:21] <zeppo> i did:  sudo apt-get purge alsa-base alsa-utils pulseaudio
[19:21] <zeppo> and then
[19:22] <zeppo> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  (which reinstalls the default packages)
[19:22] <zeppo> and reboot
[19:22] <zeppo> i got the phonon message about devices "removed", and i selected no and dont ask me again
[19:23] <zeppo> which apparently is a bug cause it removed my analog internal audio device which is perfectly working
[19:23] <zeppo> (and i got the same at another pc too)
[19:25] <BluesKaj> ok Snowhog , sorry I misread your post, I don't use the pw login ..I'm the only use here at home so I set it to autologin
[19:31] <scott__> i need to install windows on my netbook. i've already downloaded the .iso i'd like to install. and i realize i'll lose my kubuntu installation, but i'll partition later. my question is, how do i begin the install from the iso?
[19:32] <holstein> scott__: from the windows iso?
[19:33] <scott__> holstein: yes
[19:33] <holstein> grub is all you will lose https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:33] <scott__> mkay....still, how to begin the install?
[19:33] <holstein> scott__: depends
[19:34] <holstein> i dont know what iso you have, and i have no idea how you 'download' a windows installation CD
[19:34] <holstein> but, i would check the documenation... most install CD's come with instructions, and its typically a matter or selecting it from the bios, or a bios key at boot
[19:35] <scott__> holstein: i said i have the .iso, not the cd.
[19:35] <scott__> i'm on a net book so....no dvd drive
[19:35] <holstein> scott__: i would try a windows support channel
[19:36] <holstein> when i have installed windows in the past, i select what i want to boot from the bios, just like with a linux install CD
[19:36] <BluesKaj> scott__, burn the iso to a cd first then use the cd to installwindows , but be sure to make a ntfs partition for windows with gparted live cd
[19:37] <scott__> holstein: again, i point out that i'm on a netbook, which means there isn't a cd tray from which to boot from
[19:37] <holstein> when i used to try installing XP from USB stick, it was *not* trivial
[19:37] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:38] <Snowhog> BluesKaj: Found a reasonable and simple solution to the scaling issue with Ksplash.
[19:38]  * BluesKaj reminds himself to stay away from netbooks for dual booying
[19:38] <holstein> either way, i would ask in a windows support channel about the best most current way to install your legally obtained windows version without bruning a CD
[19:38] <BluesKaj> Snowhog, in grub ?
[19:42] <Snowhog> BluesKaj: No. As Ksplash is scaling the background image it is told to use, but KDM is not, I just modified the KDM Theme .xml file (/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/horos/horos.xml) and changed <normal wallpaper="Horos" scalemode="crop" /> to <normal wallpaper="Horos" scalemode="scale"/>
[20:04] <Dragnslcr> I really wish X would stop segfaulting
[20:09] <BluesKaj> graphics card driver/module problems perhaps , Dragnslcr ?
[20:09] <Dragnslcr> That's my guess. I know there are a couple open bug reports about Intel drivers
[20:43] <Snowhog> Shameless promotion of a slick and easy fix to smooth background image transition from KDM to Ksplash: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3119655.msg281096#msg281096
[20:50] <mbr> can anyone help me solve this: http://pastebin.com/vtJBhGcm ?
[21:03] <gusnoceda> hola
[21:22] <teij> salut
[21:22] <traceurspirit> tg
[21:22] <teij> windows est le best
[21:22] <traceurspirit> cé kler
[21:22] <teij> linux sa pue
[21:23] <traceurspirit> vou ete une vi de merd
[21:23] <teij> les pigeon vole
[21:23] <teij> mange bolosse
[21:24] <traceurspirit> ok..
[21:24] <OerHeks> sudo service vocabulaire anglais -f
[21:24] <teij> sorry man
[21:24] <traceurspirit> t francai ??
[21:25] <OerHeks> !fr
[21:31] <terryg> Is there a kde app similar to gkrellm?
[21:42] <Snowhog> terryg: Are you wanting an actual KDE GUI application that does what gkrellm does, or just something other than gkrellm? I (and many) use/prefer conky.
[21:43] <mastercontrol_> this feels like the deep end.
[21:43] <DarthFrog> Do your feet touch bottom? :-)
[21:44] <mastercontrol_> im not sure if there is a bottom.
[21:50] <mastercontrol_> its hard to un-ecm an ecm file in linux.
[21:50] <mastercontrol_> not sure whats going wrong.
[22:04] <teij> jijij
[22:12] <mastercontrol_> any newBs online?
[22:12] <markus> moin
[22:12] <markus> trying to install mac os x, kubuntu and win xp on the same machine
[22:12] <markus> the viatkos disk runs on my machine without problems
[22:13] <markus> how would I start that project?
[22:13] <markus> first create the partitions for all systems?
[22:13] <markus> like ntfs for windows, then xfs and swap for linux and hfs+ for mac os?
[22:14] <markus> experiences?
[22:15] <BluesKaj> good luck with that
[22:16] <markus> I tried to make my ntfs partition smaller. but that seems not to work
[22:17] <markus> tried gparted. but that said there is an error on my disk
[22:17] <markus> then I tried with partition magic
[22:18] <markus> did not work neiter
[22:18] <markus> damn
[22:19] <BluesKaj> is this a mac ?
[22:22] <markus> no. I have a normal notebook
[22:27] <caraya> hi, my kubuntu can´t start:-( Just start login screen, but when I write log and pass, log screen coming again back:-( Another terminal (ctrl+alt+F?) work exactly and if I kill Xserv, and wirrite stratx  than kde start,
[22:29] <caraya> some idea, aor know where is some log files? In Xorg.0.log can found anything wrong :-(
[22:34] <BarkingFish> caraya: if you get your Xorg.0.log file, and open it, could you paste the contents of it to paste.ubuntu.com, so we can take a look?
[22:39] <caraya> oh, sorry. Now is it on pastebin
[22:40] <BarkingFish> can you post the link to the pastebin page?
[22:40] <caraya> http://paste.ubuntu.com/766371/
[22:41] <BarkingFish> thank you
[22:42] <caraya> I thank you :-) for attention :-)
[22:44] <BarkingFish> You seem to have a lot of errors in the log, caraya - including the fact that the module which supports your graphics card is missing.
[22:44] <BarkingFish> or at least, it can't be found
[22:44] <caraya> but why working inf i write stratx in console?
[22:46] <BarkingFish> maybe when your system starts up the first time, something is being missed.
[22:46] <BarkingFish> But I found this: (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0)
[22:46] <BarkingFish> Your xorg configuration seems to be using fbdev to run your display
[22:48] <BarkingFish> also, caraya - are you comfortable using English? We have a channel which operates in Czech if you need one :)
[22:48] <BarkingFish> I'm not wishing to be rude, or to offend you, I'm simply offering you support in your own language if you wish to have it :)
[22:48] <caraya> I yes, if you uunderstand my english:-)
[22:49] <BarkingFish> I'm not having a problem, i'm just being polite and offering you the choice :)
[22:49] <BarkingFish>  Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz.
[22:50] <BarkingFish> But anyway, you say that if you use startx - your service starts up normally.  Do you know how to set your system so that it does not need you to login, but will load straight away?
[22:52] <BarkingFish> brb
[22:52] <caraya> i know this forum, but the people on them are very slovly for answer :-(
[22:52] <BarkingFish> caraya - sometimes it can be like that here, too.
[22:53] <caraya> BarkingFish: :-)
[22:53] <BarkingFish> A lot of our users in the channel are in Europe, and some in the US.  It's either very early, or getting very late :)
[22:53] <BarkingFish> i will brb
[22:55] <BarkingFish> caraya - sorry about that :)
[22:56] <caraya> its ok
[22:56] <BarkingFish> Right.  Let us try something.  I am going to help you set up your machine, so you do not need to login.  I want to see if the login is what is causing this problem.
[22:58] <caraya> the problem is may be in repositary, becouse if i can upgrade/update, then system write  http://paste.ubuntu.com/766387/
[23:00] <BarkingFish> caraya: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[23:00] <BarkingFish> oh damn
[23:00] <BarkingFish> :/
[23:00] <BarkingFish> hi again caraya :)
[23:00] <BarkingFish> What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[23:00] <caraya> old one .... 9.10
[23:00] <BarkingFish> oh wow.
[23:01] <BarkingFish> That's pretty old.  I don't think then maybe that I can help you - I didn't start to use Kubuntu until 11.04
[23:01] <caraya> but now i canot upgrade for smae problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/766387/
[23:01] <BarkingFish> caraya: can you try a distribution upgrade?
[23:02] <caraya> like apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:02] <BarkingFish> yes
[23:02] <BarkingFish> or is that what you tried?
[23:03] <caraya> dist_upgrade write nothing for upgrade
[23:04] <BarkingFish> hm
[23:05] <BarkingFish> I've asked some friends in another channel, to see if they can help you since I know nothing of the version of kubuntu you are using.
[23:06] <ikonia> caraya: it's a simple issue, that repo is not responding
[23:06] <ikonia> caraya: that file is not on the server
[23:08] <caraya> ikonia: and support is over?
[23:09] <ikonia> caraya: support of what ?
[23:09] <caraya> of 9.10
[23:09] <ikonia> caraya: the repos for 9.10 are on oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[23:10] <BarkingFish> ikonia: it's also an issue that when caraya tries to distro upgrade, nothing happens.  How can it be done to get them from 9.10 to the latest? is it possible?
[23:10] <ikonia> !upgrade
[23:10] <ikonia> there are instructions for how to deal with EOL releases
[23:11] <BarkingFish> brilliant, thanks ikonia
[23:11] <ikonia> but to get 9.10 to "current" before the upgrade, you'll need to use "oldreleases.ubuntu.com"
[23:11] <caraya> thanks everione :-)
[23:11] <BarkingFish> caraya: so you will need to change the repository you download from to the one ikonia mentioned
[23:12] <BarkingFish> or rather, don't change it, but add it to your sources.
[23:12] <caraya> BarkingFish: oki, thaks a lot
[23:12] <canis__> in rekonq-Where is the download window, or it's equivilant, and why is it so hard to find?
[23:14] <BarkingFish> canis__: I don't think you'll find that there is a download window in rekonq
[23:15] <BarkingFish> as far as I know, when you download, it asks you where you want to save stuff, then saves it - you just get a progress bar pop up on the screen while it's saving
[23:15] <canis__> That's my problem, I couldn't find it.  There is one, but it is in a very funky spot
[23:16] <canis__> For some queer reason you have to open a new tab just to get to it.  I just found that out in the rekonq channel
[23:23] <volker> hallo zsammen. Habe soeben kubuntu 11.10 installiert. Wie bekomme ich akonadi weg, ohne das das gesammte kde verschwindet?
[23:24] <volker> oh- sry, may i have do write in english?
[23:24] <Torch> !de
[23:24] <Torch> volker: also, current kde versions depend on akonadi
[23:25] <volker> thx, for your answer. So what could i deinstall from this PIM programm? is there a list?
[23:29] <Snowhog> volker: Would you please repost your question - in English?
[23:31] <volker> yes, i do. I've installed kbuntu 11.10 today. now i want to deinstall akonadi. But the paketmanager tell me that in this case, kde-workspace an many other things will be gone.
[23:31] <Torch> volker: why do you want to uninstall akonadi?
[23:32] <Snowhog> volker: Correct. I don't think that you can uninstall akonadi - it is now intregal to KDE.
[23:32] <volker> so - i search the way to deinstall akonadi - PIM...
[23:32] <BarkingFish> volker: A lot of stuff in Kubuntu 11.10 relies on akonadi to work correctly - kmail needs it, for example.
[23:32] <BarkingFish> If you uninstall it, you lose most of KDE. Simple.
[23:32] <volker> i don't need kmail.
[23:33] <Snowhog> volker: If you don't want to use Kontact/Kmail, you don't have to.
[23:33] <Torch> volker: plasma depends on akonadi for the calendar widget, so you simply cannot uninstall akonadi as long as you want a KDE desktop
[23:33] <Snowhog> volker: You can safely uninstall kontact and kmail if you don't want them.
[23:36] <volker> ok, i understand. [but i don't agree ;-( ]  I only want KDE Desktop (no widget's) if i want more then i'll install that. But thanks a lot, i try it - file by file.
[23:39] <billytwowilly> hi, updatedb.mlocat is hitting 100 % cpu usage and filling up my log files until the hard drive is full every time it runs.
[23:40] <billytwowilly> any suggestions on how to fix this?
[23:45] <noaXess> hey all
[23:46] <noaXess> if i want start ktimetracker i get this: Could not create the KTimeTracker part.
[23:49] <noaXess> and tahts the console output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/766414/