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| philipballew | is there an easy way to install Debian as my second os in place of back track thats currently installed without messing up grub? | 04:45 |
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| holstein | philipballew: sure... i usually let the linux's share a swap partition | 04:47 |
| philipballew | alright. is the best way to do that and just not let debian set up its own mbr? | 04:47 |
| holstein | philipballew: either way | 04:48 |
| philipballew | alright, and yeah. sharing swap sounds smart | 04:48 |
| holstein | philipballew: i would just know how to update grub from a live CD, and all is well :) | 04:48 |
| philipballew | i have 4 gigs as well so i am not sure swap is always nessessery | 04:48 |
| holstein | philipballew: you have to get the alternate CD's with buntu to *not* install grub these days | 04:48 |
| philipballew | makes sence i guess. well i was gonna install debian only this time as ubuntu is already installed. i need debian as i am going to be making packages for them now | 04:49 |
| holstein | philipballew: cool | 04:51 |
| holstein | keep me posted on that | 04:51 |
| philipballew | alright. I will. thanks for the info | 04:51 |
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| mascot | Ahoy | 07:33 |
| JackyAlcine | Argh | 07:39 |
| JackyAlcine | *Arggg | 07:39 |
| uwe | moin | 07:58 |
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| ashickur-noor | Hi | 08:51 |
| ashickur-noor | How are u all? | 08:51 |
| uwe | fine and you? | 08:59 |
| ashickur-noor | me also | 09:00 |
| uwe | where are you from? | 09:01 |
| ashickur-noor | Bangladesh | 09:02 |
| ashickur-noor | and u? | 09:02 |
| uwe | germany | 09:02 |
| ashickur-noor | Nice | 09:02 |
| ashickur-noor | Have you tried knoppix? | 09:03 |
| uwe | yes knoppix is cool | 09:04 |
| ArizonaBa | hi can anyone help me with figuring out what is wrong with this comman on excel | 09:35 |
| ArizonaBa | please ? NOTE = "E" | 09:35 |
| === ArizonaBa is now known as Arizona_Bay | ||
| Arizona_Bay | can anyone help me with visual basic sheets? | 10:31 |
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| kanout | hello everybody! I try to install ubuntu 11.10 on a win7 system. The installer doesn't recognize the win 7 OS. What can I do to rescue win 7 from the installation? | 10:58 |
| Arizona_Bay | what do u mean it doesn recognize it? | 11:03 |
| Arizona_Bay | like in the repartition? | 11:03 |
| Arizona_Bay | just check on instal side by side | 11:03 |
| Arizona_Bay | ... | 11:03 |
| kanout | it doesn't have that option | 11:05 |
| Arizona_Bay | alright | 11:05 |
| Arizona_Bay | did u make your partitions? | 11:05 |
| kanout | yes I have made unallocated space for ubuntu to use but still it doen't see it. Even though the disk utility from the live cd sees it as unallocated space. I have tried also fedora installer and it happens to be the same thing. | 11:07 |
| Arizona_Bay | it sees as the whole disk empty? | 11:09 |
| Arizona_Bay | o.o | 11:09 |
| Arizona_Bay | also u should check out #ubuntu | 11:09 |
| kanout | yes | 11:09 |
| Arizona_Bay | are you sure u didnt wipe it out? | 11:10 |
| kanout | yes. if i quit the installation win7 starts normally. | 11:10 |
| Arizona_Bay | I have honestly no idea.. | 11:11 |
| kanout | Win 7 have made a small partition sized 100 MB which is system use, and this partition is marked by Active | 11:11 |
| kanout | I think something is messed up with the MBR | 11:11 |
| Arizona_Bay | I am really more noob then u are | 11:15 |
| Arizona_Bay | like i said check out the main channel | 11:15 |
| kanout | ok thank you for your time. | 11:16 |
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| Arizona_Bay | it was my pleasure :D | 11:38 |
| hobgoblin | got that working again then :) | 12:57 |
| hobgoblin | hello iggy19 geoff44 | 13:14 |
| geoff44 | Hi hobgoblin | 13:14 |
| hobgoblin | need help or just wandering about :) | 13:15 |
| geoff44 | This is my first time on a IRC | 13:15 |
| hobgoblin | oh - well welcome to IRC and this channel then :) | 13:16 |
| hobgoblin | what brought you here? | 13:16 |
| geoff44 | Thanks hobgoblin - where do you hail from? | 13:16 |
| uwe | hi geoff welcome here | 13:16 |
| hobgoblin | south of england geoff44 | 13:17 |
| geoff44 | Hi uwe - I'm from Australia | 13:17 |
| uwe | i am from germany | 13:17 |
| hobgoblin | geoff44: if you've come following a link - the offtopic channel is #ubuntu-beginners-team - this is the support channel | 13:17 |
| hobgoblin | oh cool - I know a few that get here from oz | 13:18 |
| geirha | Isn't it awfully late over there now? | 13:18 |
| hobgoblin | I'd have to guess so :) | 13:19 |
| geoff44 | Yeah 20 past midnight | 13:19 |
| geoff44 | I'm pretty ancient - the 44 refers to my date of birth | 13:20 |
| hobgoblin | that's not ancient :p | 13:20 |
| hobgoblin | my mum told me | 13:20 |
| uwe | hehe is she from that age <hobgoblin> ? | 13:21 |
| geoff44 | You interested in cricket hobgoblin? | 13:21 |
| hobgoblin | uwe: one more in fact :p | 13:21 |
| hobgoblin | geoff44: only when we are winning ... | 13:21 |
| hobgoblin | not much of a sportsman | 13:22 |
| geoff44 | NZ is cleaning us up in the test match | 13:22 |
| hobgoblin | oh dear | 13:23 |
| geoff44 | This is a good learning experience for me | 13:23 |
| geoff44 | Thanks hobgoblin | 13:23 |
| hobgoblin | good - that's what life is for | 13:23 |
| hobgoblin | so are you using a linux system now? | 13:24 |
| geoff44 | How old are you uwe? | 13:24 |
| geoff44 | Yes 11.10 mainly gnome shell | 13:24 |
| hobgoblin | aah cool | 13:25 |
| uwe | 38 | 13:25 |
| uwe | 38 geoff44 | 13:25 |
| geoff44 | Yes you're only a youngster uwe | 13:26 |
| geoff44 | I guess the other channels are mainly technical in nature? | 13:27 |
| hobgoblin | this is one actually - this is the beginners team support channel - we have some others, offtopic #ubunt-beginners-team | 13:28 |
| geirha | Am I the only one using Unity? Sometimes I feel like the only one. :) | 13:28 |
| hobgoblin | I think sabdfl uses it sometimes as well geirha | 13:29 |
| geoff44 | Hi geirha - i'm using Unity right now | 13:30 |
| uwe | i use unity and ubuntustudio 10.10 | 13:33 |
| uwe | i do not like the unity desktop to be honest | 13:38 |
| geoff44 | I just went back on it today to try the myunity tool | 13:40 |
| hobgoblin | oh I've seen that thing on the forums | 13:40 |
| hobgoblin | not tried it though - wouldn't work with xfce :p | 13:40 |
| geoff44 | In my opinion it doesn't do a huge amount | 13:41 |
| geoff44 | I quite like gnome shell with 4 or 5 extensions | 13:42 |
| geoff44 | I guess it is time for me to got bed - It has been a pleasure to meet you all. | 13:51 |
| E3D3 | Hi, I'm a TOTAL network-noob or worse a little phobic. To open an extern file in an already running Emacs editor #emacs advised me to use a server & client. Is it true that it has nothing to do with internet ? | 14:45 |
| holstein | E3D3: im not sure where you read or heard what you heard, or why... but yes that is true | 14:51 |
| holstein | a server client scenario does *not* have to involve the internet or a network | 14:51 |
| holstein | the server and client can be running 'locally' on one machine, | 14:52 |
| E3D3 | holstein: Really thanks, more people tried to explain me clearly but your the first that don't use words I have to Google for. :-) | 15:04 |
| holstein | E3D3: maybe check out http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient | 15:09 |
| holstein | if its a file you are being asked to edit, you might want to see if you can download it and work with it locally in the editor of your choice | 15:10 |
| holstein | running services like that on a network with linux is not the same as if you are in windows | 15:11 |
| holstein | your user has certain permissions, and that typically keeps you safer than if you were running a client and connecting to a server with administrative permission | 15:12 |
| holstein | this would be like connecting to a website (server) with your web browser (client) | 15:12 |
| holstein | i say, do what makes you feel safe, and read around, and ask questions like you are... | 15:13 |
| E3D3 | I'm a little paranoid about what I don't understand and always skipped this subject. I just thought it would work like with most programs, changing the opening-command. Server & client scare me because I can't control to who they connect. | 15:13 |
| holstein | E3D3: you can control that | 15:13 |
| holstein | and you can control the permissions | 15:13 |
| E3D3 | I like to learn things to the bottom but avoided internet with it protocol-wars so most children know more. I think its to complex, temporary knowledge full of nasty hidden stuff. So I connect to public WLAN without password and close it after my job is done. Also SQL talked about server & another account so I threw it away, to much sidekick to handle/learn about. I'm always behind with this stuff and keep feeling naked. I wish this | 15:27 |
| E3D3 | 'upgraded notepad' used different words & ways to do it, just like other programs. Thanks you for your patience, help and take away some anxiety. I will try to overcome the remaining. Good luck & Thanks | 15:27 |
| holstein | E3D3: you can always work from a live CD | 15:32 |
| holstein | if you are worried about something infecting your machine, or your machine's hard drive, take it out of the equation | 15:32 |
| holstein | you can boot a live CD, or from a read only USB stick, have some storage area that is encrypted, or wiped regularly | 15:33 |
| holstein | this site http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ hosts linux live CD"s based on ubuntu that offer server scenarios to fit most any need | 15:34 |
| E3D3 | holstein: I feel much comforted and try to find a route to the base of all this with a true understanding instead of living in a fog and blind repeating others. Thank you for helping. :-0 | 15:56 |
| E3D3 | :-) | 15:57 |
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| AlexIsAverage | Hey! I'm having some trouble setting up an Afterglow Xbox controller so that Ubuntu recognizes it. Can anyone lend a hand? | 17:22 |
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| LemonAid | Hi guys. What does the ! character in the /etc/shadow represent? I know the * character means that account is locked for login. "root" has a !, so it leads me to believe it might be a temporary rights something.. | 19:22 |
| LemonAid | I meant, in the lines in the /etc/shadow file. | 19:23 |
| geirha | It is explained in the man-page. man shadow | 19:24 |
| LemonAid | Will check, thanx. | 19:25 |
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| creede | Hey all, I have a question. When I move my cursor to the left or the right edge of the screen, compiz (presumably) wants to resize the active window up against that edge of the window. | 22:04 |
| creede | How can I turn that off? It's annoying++. | 22:04 |
| creede | (I can get around it by switching windows, but I still want to turn it off.) | 22:05 |
| urlin2u | creede, you might try the #compiz channel. | 22:06 |
| creede | Thanks, I'll try there. | 22:07 |
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