=== Guest83282 is now known as zkriesse [04:45] is there an easy way to install Debian as my second os in place of back track thats currently installed without messing up grub? [04:47] philipballew: sure... i usually let the linux's share a swap partition [04:47] alright. is the best way to do that and just not let debian set up its own mbr? [04:48] philipballew: either way [04:48] alright, and yeah. sharing swap sounds smart [04:48] philipballew: i would just know how to update grub from a live CD, and all is well :) [04:48] i have 4 gigs as well so i am not sure swap is always nessessery [04:48] philipballew: you have to get the alternate CD's with buntu to *not* install grub these days [04:49] makes sence i guess. well i was gonna install debian only this time as ubuntu is already installed. i need debian as i am going to be making packages for them now [04:51] philipballew: cool [04:51] keep me posted on that [04:51] alright. I will. thanks for the info === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away === samsul is now known as gantijeneng === gantijeneng is now known as samsul === samsul is now known as kacung === kacung is now known as jongos === jongos is now known as samsul === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse === samsul is now known as samsul|sinau [07:33] Ahoy [07:39] Argh [07:39] *Arggg [07:58] moin === zkriesse is now known as Guest35902 === samsul|sinau is now known as samsul === Guest35902 is now known as zkriesse [08:51] Hi [08:51] How are u all? [08:59] fine and you? [09:00] me also [09:01] where are you from? [09:02] Bangladesh [09:02] and u? [09:02] germany [09:02] Nice [09:03] Have you tried knoppix? [09:04] yes knoppix is cool [09:35] hi can anyone help me with figuring out what is wrong with this comman on excel [09:35] please ? NOTE = "E" === ArizonaBa is now known as Arizona_Bay [10:31] can anyone help me with visual basic sheets? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:58] hello everybody! I try to install ubuntu 11.10 on a win7 system. The installer doesn't recognize the win 7 OS. What can I do to rescue win 7 from the installation? [11:03] what do u mean it doesn recognize it? [11:03] like in the repartition? [11:03] just check on instal side by side [11:03] ... [11:05] it doesn't have that option [11:05] alright [11:05] did u make your partitions? [11:07] yes I have made unallocated space for ubuntu to use but still it doen't see it. Even though the disk utility from the live cd sees it as unallocated space. I have tried also fedora installer and it happens to be the same thing. [11:09] it sees as the whole disk empty? [11:09] o.o [11:09] also u should check out #ubuntu [11:09] yes [11:10] are you sure u didnt wipe it out? [11:10] yes. if i quit the installation win7 starts normally. [11:11] I have honestly no idea.. [11:11] Win 7 have made a small partition sized 100 MB which is system use, and this partition is marked by Active [11:11] I think something is messed up with the MBR [11:15] I am really more noob then u are [11:15] like i said check out the main channel [11:16] ok thank you for your time. === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away [11:38] it was my pleasure :D [12:57] got that working again then :) [13:14] hello iggy19 geoff44 [13:14] Hi hobgoblin [13:15] need help or just wandering about :) [13:15] This is my first time on a IRC [13:16] oh - well welcome to IRC and this channel then :) [13:16] what brought you here? [13:16] Thanks hobgoblin - where do you hail from? [13:16] hi geoff welcome here [13:17] south of england geoff44 [13:17] Hi uwe - I'm from Australia [13:17] i am from germany [13:17] geoff44: if you've come following a link - the offtopic channel is #ubuntu-beginners-team - this is the support channel [13:18] oh cool - I know a few that get here from oz [13:18] Isn't it awfully late over there now? [13:19] I'd have to guess so :) [13:19] Yeah 20 past midnight [13:20] I'm pretty ancient - the 44 refers to my date of birth [13:20] that's not ancient :p [13:20] my mum told me [13:21] hehe is she from that age ? [13:21] You interested in cricket hobgoblin? [13:21] uwe: one more in fact :p [13:21] geoff44: only when we are winning ... [13:22] not much of a sportsman [13:22] NZ is cleaning us up in the test match [13:23] oh dear [13:23] This is a good learning experience for me [13:23] Thanks hobgoblin [13:23] good - that's what life is for [13:24] so are you using a linux system now? [13:24] How old are you uwe? [13:24] Yes 11.10 mainly gnome shell [13:25] aah cool [13:25] 38 [13:25] 38 geoff44 [13:26] Yes you're only a youngster uwe [13:27] I guess the other channels are mainly technical in nature? [13:28] this is one actually - this is the beginners team support channel - we have some others, offtopic #ubunt-beginners-team [13:28] Am I the only one using Unity? Sometimes I feel like the only one. :) [13:29] I think sabdfl uses it sometimes as well geirha [13:30] Hi geirha - i'm using Unity right now [13:33] i use unity and ubuntustudio 10.10 [13:38] i do not like the unity desktop to be honest [13:40] I just went back on it today to try the myunity tool [13:40] oh I've seen that thing on the forums [13:40] not tried it though - wouldn't work with xfce :p [13:41] In my opinion it doesn't do a huge amount [13:42] I quite like gnome shell with 4 or 5 extensions [13:51] I guess it is time for me to got bed - It has been a pleasure to meet you all. [14:45] Hi, I'm a TOTAL network-noob or worse a little phobic. To open an extern file in an already running Emacs editor #emacs advised me to use a server & client. Is it true that it has nothing to do with internet ? [14:51] E3D3: im not sure where you read or heard what you heard, or why... but yes that is true [14:51] a server client scenario does *not* have to involve the internet or a network [14:52] the server and client can be running 'locally' on one machine, [15:04] holstein: Really thanks, more people tried to explain me clearly but your the first that don't use words I have to Google for. :-) [15:09] E3D3: maybe check out http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient [15:10] if its a file you are being asked to edit, you might want to see if you can download it and work with it locally in the editor of your choice [15:11] running services like that on a network with linux is not the same as if you are in windows [15:12] your user has certain permissions, and that typically keeps you safer than if you were running a client and connecting to a server with administrative permission [15:12] this would be like connecting to a website (server) with your web browser (client) [15:13] i say, do what makes you feel safe, and read around, and ask questions like you are... [15:13] I'm a little paranoid about what I don't understand and always skipped this subject. I just thought it would work like with most programs, changing the opening-command. Server & client scare me because I can't control to who they connect. [15:13] E3D3: you can control that [15:13] and you can control the permissions [15:27] I like to learn things to the bottom but avoided internet with it protocol-wars so most children know more. I think its to complex, temporary knowledge full of nasty hidden stuff. So I connect to public WLAN without password and close it after my job is done. Also SQL talked about server & another account so I threw it away, to much sidekick to handle/learn about. I'm always behind with this stuff and keep feeling naked. I wish this [15:27] 'upgraded notepad' used different words & ways to do it, just like other programs. Thanks you for your patience, help and take away some anxiety. I will try to overcome the remaining. Good luck & Thanks [15:32] E3D3: you can always work from a live CD [15:32] if you are worried about something infecting your machine, or your machine's hard drive, take it out of the equation [15:33] you can boot a live CD, or from a read only USB stick, have some storage area that is encrypted, or wiped regularly [15:34] this site http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ hosts linux live CD"s based on ubuntu that offer server scenarios to fit most any need [15:56] holstein: I feel much comforted and try to find a route to the base of all this with a true understanding instead of living in a fog and blind repeating others. Thank you for helping. :-0 [15:57] :-) === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse === zkriesse is now known as Guest54853 === Guest54853 is now known as zkriesse [17:22] Hey! I'm having some trouble setting up an Afterglow Xbox controller so that Ubuntu recognizes it. Can anyone lend a hand? === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away [19:22] Hi guys. What does the ! character in the /etc/shadow represent? I know the * character means that account is locked for login. "root" has a !, so it leads me to believe it might be a temporary rights something.. [19:23] I meant, in the lines in the /etc/shadow file. [19:24] It is explained in the man-page. man shadow [19:25] Will check, thanx. === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse [22:04] Hey all, I have a question. When I move my cursor to the left or the right edge of the screen, compiz (presumably) wants to resize the active window up against that edge of the window. [22:04] How can I turn that off? It's annoying++. [22:05] (I can get around it by switching windows, but I still want to turn it off.) [22:06] creede, you might try the #compiz channel. [22:07] Thanks, I'll try there.