[01:58] <usr13> Anyone interested in keeping FuzzyNuts on #ubuntu ?
[02:01] <usr13> I guess no one is here right now...
[02:02] <usr13> Anyone interested in keeping FuzzyNuts on #ubuntu ?
[02:02] <usr13> Hello?
[02:04] <elky> usr13, dealing with it
[02:05] <milamber> anyone around?
[02:09] <usr13> elky: Ok, good.
[02:12] <elky> was there anything else? if not, note that this isn't a channel for idling in :)
[05:45] <pangolin> media-832: Can we help you?
[05:48] <pangolin> media-832: Unless you need something from the ops please don't idle in this channel
[11:27] <czajkowski> .c
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[13:48] <bazhang> blech
[13:48] <Myrtti> ircname  : shellmix.com
[13:50] <Myrtti> interesting stalker info
[13:52] <pangolin> lastlog shows they have a one track mind
[14:52] <marienz> stalker and shellmix.com won't work well
[14:52] <marienz> (it's a not very well run shell server that's usually not running identd and has been used by a bunch of troublemakers/ban evaders, so stalker will just group all of those together)
[14:54] <Myrtti> marienz: I know
[14:54] <Myrtti> figured that out immediately
[17:42] <Madkiss> Hi there.
[17:42] <oCean> hello
[17:44] <Madkiss> oCean: So, what's your real name and your position in Ubuntu?
[17:44] <oCean> I don't see how it matters what my real name is, though you can find it on my wiki/launchpad page.
[17:44] <oCean> I'm merely a volunteer in the ubuntu community, that's all
[17:45] <Madkiss> It matters because i'd like to actually know who's reprimanding me for saying "Jesus Christ" in #ubuntu afer all the hours of work I did for you people develoment wise :)
[17:45] <oCean> for me?
[17:45] <Madkiss> (judging it a "swear")
[17:45] <oCean> I'm a volunteer as I told you
[17:46] <pangolin> it isn't the words but the intent with which you used them.
[17:47] <pangolin> in this case I agree that it was inappropriate language
[17:47] <oCean> as soon as you entered the channel you were given links to our channel guidelines and Code of Conduct. Both make it clear that one should try to keep the channel family friendly and professional
[17:47] <Madkiss> I'm pretty sure you've all seen the Sopranos.
[17:47] <Madkiss> if I ever wanted to actually swear the statement would have contained different words.
[17:49] <Madkiss> so
[17:50] <Madkiss> Well, I guess ill discuss this with Roaksoakx
[17:50] <pangolin> who is that?
[17:50] <Madkiss> he's the guy using the debian packages of the linux-ha cluster stack that I created as base for his work.
[17:51] <pangolin> that is fine, discuss it with him. Please remember to follow the Ubuntu guidelines.
[17:51] <Myrtti> if you notice, you're not banned from #ubuntu
[17:51] <pangolin> Have a nice day.
[17:51] <Myrtti> nothing prevents you from using the channel
[17:52] <Madkiss> that's not the point.
[17:52] <pangolin> oh, you are threatening to take away permission from him to use your work?
[17:52] <Madkiss> no.
[17:53] <pangolin> I don't see what he has to do with #ubuntu then
[17:53] <Madkiss> y'know, I'm out for "family and profession" and all that.
[17:53] <CarlFK> dare I ask: what is the point?
[17:53] <Madkiss> I'm feeling insultd by being warned for having said "jesus christ".
[17:53] <Madkiss> that's about it.
[17:54] <Madkiss> i've seen all this stuff happening on debian mailing lists for years, and it has not turned them to the better.
[17:54] <pangolin> We aren't debian
[17:54] <Madkiss> and yet you're heading torwards the same direction
[17:54] <CarlFK> Madkiss: sorry we upset you.
[17:55] <CarlFK> Madkiss: we (guessing including you) are volenteers, just hanging out trying to help
[17:55] <CarlFK> far from perfect, trying to deal with other humans, stuff happens.
[17:55] <oCean> I don't feel sorry for adressing him. I would have done that for others as well
[17:55] <oCean> I AM sorry if the guidelines are upsetting, but those are in place for good reasons
[17:55] <pangolin> nevertheless we have guidelines and they must be followed by everyone in our community which includes people of many different beliefs.
[17:56] <Madkiss> Can I see the part of the code of conduct forbidding the use of divine appraisals?
[17:57] <pangolin> that would be the don't be off topic part
[17:57] <pangolin> religion has nothing to do with support
[17:57] <pangolin> ubuntu support*
[17:57] <oCean> Madkiss: As said before, it's not litterly in the text. Let me repeat myself: Both make it clear that one should try to keep the channel family friendly and professional
[17:57] <Madkiss> So you'll stop claiming that praying to god the way I did actually is cursing?
[17:57] <CarlFK> Madkiss: let it go.
[17:58] <Madkiss> Fine.
[17:58] <oCean> #ubuntu is also not the channel for prayers. I think there is #religion
[17:58] <pangolin> Madkiss: you will drop this and stop trying to turn it into a anti-god discussion.
[17:58] <CarlFK> Madkiss: thanks.
[17:59] <Madkiss> oh, and while we are at it.
[18:00] <Madkiss> oCean: Keeping a channel with 1500 people in it "professional" and "family friendly" is an absurd goal.
[18:00] <Madkiss> I've been Freenode staff for more than four years
[18:00] <oCean> oh ok.
[18:00] <oCean> thanks for the heads up
[18:00] <pangolin> lol
[18:00] <pangolin> most freenode staff idle in here
[18:00] <Madkiss> and channels with more than 400 pepople will turn oncontrollable sooner or later.
[18:00] <CarlFK> Madkiss: all things considered, I think it is working out pretty well
[18:01] <Madkiss> i'll leave defining "working well" to you, but I don't have that impresion. YMMV.
[18:01] <CarlFK> I will admit I am surprised how well it is working out.
[18:01] <Myrtti> Madkiss: thank you for your opinion. we still prefer trying to control it instead of letting it slip to total anarchy.
[18:01] <Madkiss> after all, I answere my question mseylf. ;)
[18:02] <Myrtti> if you don't have anything else on your mind, you're welcome to go back to #ubuntu and continue on what you were doing.
[18:02] <pangolin> err not exactly
[18:03] <pangolin> continue helping/getting help while following the guidelines
[18:03] <pangolin> :)
[18:03] <Madkiss> I'm afraid I can't put another support/help-hat on my head.
[18:04] <Myrtti> Madkiss: so did you have anything else on your mind?
[18:04] <Madkiss> no, it's okay
[18:04] <Madkiss> bbl
[18:04]  * Myrtti points at the topic
[18:05] <pangolin> jrib: got another one for your files
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