| Laney | loughborough... | 01:25 |
|---|---|---|
| Laney | for some reason the train stops for 10 minutes at every station | 01:26 |
| funkyHat | Train driver's probably speeding | 01:28 |
| === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci | ||
| Laney | made it | 02:27 |
| Imli | Hi can anybody help me? | 05:10 |
| Imli | I have problem with my huawei 3g USB on UBUNTU 11.04.It is not connecting | 05:12 |
| popey | morning all | 08:38 |
| MartijnVdS | \o popey | 08:44 |
| christel | good morning :) | 08:55 |
| AlanBell | morning all o/ | 09:12 |
| MooDoo | morning all | 09:12 |
| christel | good morning AlanBell! :) | 09:17 |
| christel | annd MooDoo! | 09:17 |
| AlanBell | christel \o/ | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | we had yummy food in the dark last night | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: hows things? | 09:22 |
| christel | we did indeed! | 09:24 |
| christel | i cant believe we had shark | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | with frikkin lasers on their heads | 09:25 |
| christel | hahaha yes! | 09:26 |
| christel | GOOD MORNING bigcalm[mob] | 09:26 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Ack, not so loud | 09:27 |
| popey | heh | 09:28 |
| popey | bigcalm[mob]: i think i found one of your houses on mc | 09:28 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Good morning christel :) | 09:28 |
| popey | bigcalm[mob]: on top of a hill with an unfinished garden | 09:28 |
| bigcalm[mob] | popey: that sounds like mine | 09:29 |
| bigcalm[mob] | I have to say, the T-Mobile reception isn't the best here | 09:30 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Good to see many of you last night :) | 09:31 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Though I didn't see any of you for awhile | 09:32 |
| popey | hah | 09:32 |
| christel | haha | 09:33 |
| christel | such a comedian! :p | 09:33 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Looks like christel just defused a bomb | 09:35 |
| christel | I AM AMAZING | 09:36 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Again with the shouting | 09:37 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 10:51 |
| jutnux | brobostigon: Howdy | 10:52 |
| brobostigon | hi jutnux | 10:53 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: meh, if I could have a new body for xmas I'd be happy | 11:18 |
| * christel gives czajkowski a christmas body | 11:36 | |
| christel | (you now look like santa, sorry) | 11:37 |
| christel | <3 | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | heh | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | back is giving me jib | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | but I do have a date for op in January | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | so if it could just behave till then I'd be happy | 11:38 |
| christel | oh good! when is it? | 11:40 |
| christel | good that you have a date, not that it's bothering you | 11:40 |
| christel | :) | 11:40 |
| czajkowski | 7th January they had a date for me next week but I fly the folowing week so not allowed | 11:41 |
| christel | aha | 11:48 |
| christel | :) | 11:49 |
| awilkins | New computer core :-) to replace dying one :-( | 11:55 |
| awilkins | Ah well, I get to see what fuss is with these shiny new i7 CPUses | 11:56 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | You're replacing just one core? | 12:07 |
| MarquessDeBonBon | I hope you have a portable fab handy. | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | hi all | 12:21 |
| BigRedS | Good morning! | 12:22 |
| AlanBell | I am sat in front of my brother in law's computer and it is a bit broken | 12:22 |
| * BigRedS looks shifty | 12:22 | |
| BigRedS | Er, I wouldn't know anything about that | 12:22 |
| AlanBell | won't boot at all, and the drive (with raid controller) is unhappy | 12:22 |
| AlanBell | won't create mount points in /dev apart from /dev/sda5 | 12:23 |
| AlanBell | and sda5 is just swap | 12:23 |
| BigRedS | Surely it's booted more than not at all if you're as far as having /dev? | 12:23 |
| AlanBell | running from live CD now | 12:24 |
| BigRedS | ahh | 12:24 |
| BigRedS | presumably the raid is normally /dev/sda? And swap is on some second disk? | 12:25 |
| AlanBell | yeah | 12:25 |
| AlanBell | fdisk -l shows the partition table | 12:25 |
| BigRedS | I'd be tempted to run testdisk to see if it disagrees with fdisk, but by that point I've normally given up and given it to The Hardware Guy | 12:26 |
| AlanBell | the thing will boot to a grub menu with a list of kernels but the keyboard seems unresponsive at that point | 12:26 |
| AlanBell | yeah, it is a hardware issue, just want to get some data off | 12:27 |
| BigRedS | oooh, odd. There's not a lot else to try to see if the issue is the keyboard or the software at that point | 12:28 |
| AlanBell | doing a SMART test now, will see what that can do | 12:29 |
| AlanBell | keyboard works on a live CD, but PS2 mouse does not! | 12:29 |
| AlanBell | this thing is borked | 12:30 |
| AlanBell | the PS2 mouse has power to it, but I am having to navigate the desktop by keyboard (lucky I do a lot of orca testing) | 12:30 |
| BigRedS | I take it this isn't mdraid? | 12:30 |
| BigRedS | I've seen several complaints of poor/patchy PS/2 support in 11.10 | 12:31 |
| AlanBell | 528 bad sectors :( | 12:35 |
| BigRedS | Oooh, not a good sign | 12:37 |
| BigRedS | ddrescue? | 12:38 |
| AlanBell | need another TB disk or something to rescue stuff to (if anything is left) | 12:39 |
| AlanBell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/765828 | 12:41 |
| AlanBell | that is the kern.log | 12:42 |
| AlanBell | lots of media errors when trying to get partition information from sda | 12:42 |
| BigRedS | Yeah | 12:42 |
| Myrtti | does anyone have experience in configuring zsh? | 12:42 |
| BigRedS | Myrtti: I have a nifty prompt with teh time and everything. But I did that a few years ago and haven't touched it since | 12:43 |
| BigRedS | Myrtti: there's a script to get you started, I think you get prompted for it the first time you run zsh | 12:46 |
| jutnux | Howdy everyone. | 13:10 |
| jacobw | good afternoon jutnux | 13:21 |
| jutnux | Hello jacobw, how are you on this fine saturday afternoon? | 13:21 |
| gordonjcp | afternoon all | 13:23 |
| MooDoo | hullo | 13:24 |
| brobostigon | helo | 13:24 |
| jutnux | Who has their openid setup? | 13:25 |
| jutnux | Bacon Sandwiches *drool* | 13:29 |
| StevenR | jutnux: *sniff*. Now I want bacon sandwiches. | 13:30 |
| jutnux | Unlucky, I have 4 of them sitting here ;) | 13:30 |
| jutnux | Oh yes, HP open sourced WebOS | 13:30 |
| StevenR | woo | 13:33 |
| BigRedS | openid? People set that up themselves? | 13:34 |
| jutnux | I set up one on symantec | 13:34 |
| jutnux | but Google is an openid right? | 13:34 |
| jutnux | along with linkedin | 13:34 |
| Darael | I tend to use my Launchpad one. | 13:34 |
| jutnux | Good idea, why didn't I think of that ._. | 13:35 |
| jacobw | i'm sure i have an openid | 13:35 |
| jacobw | somewhere.. | 13:35 |
| Darael | Well, it's Ubuntu SSO, these days, of course, but I still think of it as Launchpad. | 13:36 |
| jacobw | yes | 13:36 |
| BigRedS | Oh, I thought you meant set it up on your server as your own openID provider | 13:37 |
| jutnux | No way, too much effort ;) | 13:37 |
| BigRedS | I've just been peripherally involved in setting that up for someone, and it seems that every implementation of it is broken | 13:37 |
| jutnux | I'd prefer to use something that wont go down | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | google openid isn't great | 13:40 |
| jacobw | i'm relearning to touch type | 13:40 |
| jutnux | Jacobw: I've been able to touch type since I was 11. Bad times ensue when you setup your fingers wrong and you end end up typing something like shwhe ueicl rf;ls | 13:41 |
| jacobw | i've discovered that i've been doing it wrong for years, with my right fingers on 'hjkl' rather that 'jkl;' | 13:41 |
| jacobw | s/that/than | 13:41 |
| jutnux | I just use 3 fingers | 13:42 |
| jutnux | can still type 121wpm | 13:42 |
| jutnux | 3 fingers on each hand that os | 13:42 |
| jutnux | s/os/is | 13:42 |
| jacobw | so you don't use your little finger? | 13:43 |
| jutnux | No | 13:43 |
| jutnux | never | 13:43 |
| jutnux | Have no use for it lol | 13:43 |
| jutnux | My fingers move so swiftly as they're quite big | 13:43 |
| BigRedS | jacobw: that's really common - I spent a while off-by-one on both hands. I don't think I really do home-row style touch typing any more, though | 13:44 |
| BigRedS | I just do muscle-memory and inefficiency | 13:45 |
| jacobw | its an obvious mistake | 13:46 |
| jacobw | i blame vim | 13:46 |
| BigRedS | haha! yeah, I'd not thought of that | 13:46 |
| Darael | Well, to be fair, what kind of ridiculous person puts ; on the home row? | 13:47 |
| Darael | (disclaimer: Programmer-Dvorak typist) | 13:47 |
| jacobw | a c programmer | 13:47 |
| BigRedS | c, perl, php programmers? | 13:47 |
| jacobw | yeah | 13:47 |
| BigRedS | and anything else that ends statements with ; | 13:47 |
| Darael | It's still not as common as the letters, though... | 13:47 |
| jutnux | Javaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 13:47 |
| jutnux | Pretty east to find out if you're a geek | 13:48 |
| jutnux | see how worn the ; key is, as not many people use it correctly anyway. | 13:48 |
| Darael | I would at least shift it one to the right, so it's not under the rest-position for the fingers. | 13:48 |
| BigRedS | I've never been able to look at line endings the same since my sister asked why I had all these crying faces - all those lines ending ); | 13:48 |
| jacobw | hahaha | 13:48 |
| jutnux | HAHAHHAHAHA | 13:49 |
| jutnux | You've passed the curse on :-{ | 13:49 |
| BigRedS | haha | 13:49 |
| Darael | Imagine what a Lisp programmer with commented code sees - winking-sad-face? ";(" | 13:50 |
| BigRedS | I've been pondering writing a source filter since, so I can end them with :) and it'll 'fix' them to ); but I think that might just _really_ confuse me | 13:50 |
| jutnux | Anyone here hack in java? | 13:51 |
| BigRedS | Hah. I had a go at Java once | 13:52 |
| jutnux | It is quite gooood | 13:53 |
| jacobw | i hate java | 13:53 |
| BigRedS | I needed to write about 40K before I could start solving the problem | 13:53 |
| Darael | jutnux: Someone probably does. There are a hundred and nineteen nicks in here, after all, and only a /few/ of them are bots. | 13:53 |
| BigRedS | in Perl, I just need to write "#! /usr/bin/perl" and I can get on with it | 13:53 |
| jutnux | In java, I just have to open up eclipse ;) | 13:53 |
| Darael | On the other hand, BigRedS, some languages have tentacles, but Perl /is/ tentacles. | 13:54 |
| BigRedS | I'm sure it has its plus points, but I'm not patient enough for it :) | 13:54 |
| jacobw | that's why i hate java | 13:54 |
| jutnux | I like Python too | 13:54 |
| jutnux | When I was 9 I made a notepad app in VB.net | 13:54 |
| jutnux | Too cool. | 13:54 |
| BigRedS | Darael: I'm still not sure whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that Perl always seems to do _exactly_ what I meant. | 13:54 |
| Darael | Ew, VB.net. | 13:54 |
| jutnux | I was 9 :-( | 13:54 |
| BigRedS | It implies a good deal of wrongness in my head... | 13:54 |
| Darael | BigRedS: Worrying. Functioning DWIM is not supposed to have been implemented yet. | 13:55 |
| BigRedS | Haha, I know! It's going to catch me out one day, I'm sure | 13:55 |
| Darael | jutnux: Oh, fair enough. No negative reflection on thee, then. But still, ew, VB.net. | 13:55 |
| jutnux | Yes, it is disgusting. | 13:55 |
| BigRedS | is vb.net markedly different to vb? | 13:56 |
| BigRedS | not that ever saw much of that, either | 13:56 |
| jacobw | BigRedS: i have the same 'problem' with perl | 13:57 |
| jutnux | Never used Perl. | 13:57 |
| BigRedS | jacobw: it's a bit embarrasing talking about it to non-perl people, I find | 13:57 |
| jacobw | i would have said 'normal people' but 'non-perl people' works too | 13:58 |
| BigRedS | haha | 13:58 |
| penguin42 | BigRedS: Now you're actually supposed to use env aren't you rather than #!/usr/bin/perl ? | 13:58 |
| BigRedS | penguin42: arguably, yeah. But I've never had /usr/bin/perl not work, though we do still have some machines without a working env... | 13:59 |
| penguin42 | ah | 14:00 |
| Darael | Not to mention if there's more than one version of the interpreter in question installed, using env can result in the wrong one launching. | 14:00 |
| BigRedS | well, you get that with this, too. It's just more predictable which potentially wrong one you get | 14:02 |
| Darael | True. | 14:03 |
| BigRedS | Ooh. They finished painting the Forth Bridge | 14:05 |
| SuprEngr | BigRedS, not once the wives find out they haven't ;) | 14:15 |
| jacobw | does anyone know who the interviewee on bbc news is? | 14:44 |
| jacobw | right now | 14:44 |
| brobostigon | jacobw: razia iqbal ? | 14:45 |
| brobostigon | justin cartwright. | 14:45 |
| jacobw | yes | 14:45 |
| jacobw | thank you :) | 14:45 |
| brobostigon | :) | 14:45 |
| brobostigon | jacobw: i simply pressed my red button, and it popped up all the info. | 14:46 |
| MooDoo | well i've moved my works desktop machine from Fedora to Ubuntu....:S | 15:08 |
| jutnux | BigRedS: Just programming and I keep seeing sad faces :'( | 15:29 |
| penguin42 | not this unhappy lemur? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16125673 | 15:30 |
| BigRedS | jutnux: haha! Sorry about that | 15:31 |
| BigRedS | jutnux: I ended up subconciously avoiding them and getting syntax errors all over the shop :/ | 15:31 |
| Azelphur | How on earth can ifconfig return...nothing? | 15:51 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: if no intefaces are up | 15:53 |
| Darael | Something took all of them including lo down? | 15:53 |
| Azelphur | ifconfig -a shows stuff | 15:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: also, use "ip link" and "ip addr", not ifconfig | 15:54 |
| Azelphur | *shrug* | 15:54 |
| MartijnVdS | ip > ifconfig | 15:54 |
| MartijnVdS | iw > iwconfig | 15:54 |
| Azelphur | guess I'll try rebooting it and see if that fixes it, weird. | 15:54 |
| MartijnVdS | the Windows solution! | 15:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: you could just ifup -a | 15:54 |
| Azelphur | INDEED | 15:54 |
| Azelphur | http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/12/08/mojang-and-lego-team-up-for-minecraft-lego-sets/ | 15:56 |
| Azelphur | omg...want | 15:56 |
| * penguin42 had noticed a lot of Lego branded things this year - I think they had a book and a board game | 15:57 | |
| jutnux | Anyone seen the lego tree? | 16:14 |
| jutnux | In Birmingham I think it is | 16:14 |
| Laney | evening all | 16:29 |
| MooDoo | hiya Laney | 16:30 |
| Laney | alright MooDoo | 16:30 |
| Laney | just got back from town | 16:30 |
| Laney | rather busy! | 16:30 |
| jutnux | Do anything fun Laney? | 16:32 |
| Laney | purchased 1 christmas present | 16:32 |
| penguin42 | a penguin? | 16:32 |
| MartijnVdS | the lindsay lohan issue? | 16:33 |
| Laney | http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/5062/75670/?ba=EmperorBevis | 16:35 |
| christel | Laney! you made it home then? :) | 16:51 |
| Laney | hah! eventually | 16:51 |
| Laney | slowest... train... ever... | 16:51 |
| christel | hehe | 16:51 |
| Laney | did you stay much longer? | 16:52 |
| christel | not much longer, we left on the 23.23 from waterloo | 17:01 |
| christel | :) | 17:01 |
| Laney | sweet | 17:05 |
| Azelphur | lol at this site, http://www.youhavedownloaded.com | 17:24 |
| Azelphur | It tells me that I'm using a private tracker or may not torrent at all, which is the polar opposite of the truth :P | 17:25 |
| Azelphur | also, 192.168.1.1 seems to do a lot of piracy. | 17:25 |
| Darael | Azelphur: Doesn't have any records on me, either. | 17:26 |
| Azelphur | lol | 17:26 |
| Azelphur | Darael: it's funny because I perform multiple downloads on public trackers on a daily basis. | 17:26 |
| mgdm | I didn't know there were that many Linux distros around! | 17:26 |
| Azelphur | Indeed! | 17:26 |
| Darael | Yes, I torrent a reasonable amount, too (though not as much as thee, Azelphur!). | 17:27 |
| Azelphur | if you put 192.168.1.1 into the search box it comes up with lots of evil stuff 192.168.1.1 has done | 17:27 |
| Azelphur | xD | 17:27 |
| Darael | That's interesting, considering that there's usually only a router on that address. | 17:27 |
| Azelphur | 192.168.1.2 and .3 are misbehaving too | 17:28 |
| Darael | That, I would expect. | 17:28 |
| Azelphur | seems like most of the block too, haha | 17:28 |
| Darael | Ditto 192.168.{0,2}.* | 17:28 |
| Darael | Funny, that. | 17:29 |
| Azelphur | indeed, gotta wonder if it's catching their internal network haha | 17:29 |
| Darael | I wonder how it's getting the IP addresses to attribute downloads to. | 17:29 |
| Azelphur | Darael: It looks like it's hosted inside godaddy, perhaps it's picking up all the piracy that goes on inside godaddy xD | 17:32 |
| Darael | Azelphur: Heh. | 17:32 |
| jutnux | I want a deadmau5 mask :-( | 17:50 |
| christel | deadmau5 <3 | 17:58 |
| jutnux | I'm more of a metal guy myself | 17:58 |
| jutnux | but deadmau5 is good | 17:58 |
| christel | :) | 17:58 |
| Azelphur | does anyone know a decent place that sells nice heavily customizable laptops like this http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-15416-laptops-ct-95_51_149.html | 18:30 |
| Azelphur | but in the UK | 18:30 |
| penguin42 | only alienware | 18:46 |
| Azelphur | :( | 18:58 |
| Azelphur | alienware charges like 2x as much as xotipc :( | 19:09 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: most likely they only scan the most popular torrents | 19:10 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: :P | 19:10 |
| ali1234 | so if you don't download jersey shore or whatever, then they won't see you | 19:11 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: *shrug* I pretty much do that, haha | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | actually i'm starting to think the site is a pure scam | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | can anyone confirm that it's at all accurate? | 19:14 |
| Azelphur | none of my friends have had any sane results off it | 19:16 |
| gord | the way they do it is the same way they do anything else, they just connect to torrents they get from various sites/feeds and grab the ips of everyone else in the swarm - it picked up some japanese tv shows i downloaded once | 19:20 |
| gord | which is specific enough if you ask me | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah, only one person in the UK downloads hentai | 19:22 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| gord | kaKaizoku Sentai Gokaiger actually... japanese power rangers. shut up, its great and you can't get it anywhere in the west >:( | 19:23 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: :) Just trolling, sorry | 19:24 |
| === cypher_ is now known as czajkowski | ||
| jutnux | Cypher out of the matrix? | 19:52 |
| jutnux | ;) | 19:53 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 19:53 |
| jutnux | Howdy bigcalm | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 19:56 |
| jutnux | My school has started using memes | 20:02 |
| jutnux | "Bins weren't cool *baby face* until I started using them" | 20:03 |
| MartijnVdS | jutnux: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-of-the-college-freshman-meme ? | 20:03 |
| jutnux | Nope I'm British | 20:03 |
| jutnux | And in a High School | 20:03 |
| jacobw | jutnux: how does one 'start using memes'? | 20:24 |
| MartijnVdS | how does one not use memes | 20:25 |
| jutnux | jacobw: They started putting them on bins, on walls everything. | 20:25 |
| jutnux | Theyre using QR codes yet we aren't allowed phones. | 20:25 |
| MartijnVdS | in my day, we decode qr codes with a slide rule and LIKED it | 20:27 |
| jacobw | hehe | 20:27 |
| jacobw | i'm confused by the use of 'meme' to refer to an object | 20:29 |
| MartijnVdS | I think he means pictures | 20:29 |
| jacobw | memes are a concept | 20:29 |
| MartijnVdS | like from quickmeme | 20:29 |
| MartijnVdS | or rage comics | 20:29 |
| jacobw | oh, i see | 20:29 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35c6do/ | 20:31 |
| SuprEngr | A meme a day keeps the boredom away! | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | use ALL the memes | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | (or at least alot of memes) | 20:32 |
| jutnux | I was a lover of memes, until I got an arrow through the knee. | 20:32 |
| SuprEngr | I was a lover of knees, until I got an meme through the arrow. | 20:34 |
| jutnux | ;) | 20:34 |
| jutnux | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5MA685ApE&feature=youtu.be | 20:35 |
| BigRedS | I've never unsterstood the idea of obscuring the bit that the camera is focusing on | 20:46 |
| MartijnVdS | must be a german thing | 20:46 |
| jutnux | Must have private details or something | 20:46 |
| jutnux | When they are looking at the PDa that is | 20:46 |
| BigRedS | yeah, I'd have just thought that if you want to video it, you just tape over it | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | black bar it | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | or something | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | not the entire centre of the video | 20:47 |
| jutnux | Too much effort I guess? | 20:47 |
| jutnux | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/italian-rock-band-release-album-recorded-using-ubuntu/ | 20:47 |
| === mike_ is now known as Guest62342 | ||
| Guest62342 | Hi all. I've just cloned my main disk to my spare... how do I now get my machine to boot from sdb instead of sda? | 21:59 |
| Darael | Reorder the disks in the BIOS? | 22:01 |
| Darael | Bear in mind that the disk that was formerly sdb will, IIRC, be reported as SDA when one boots from it. | 22:02 |
| Guest62342 | Thanks, I did change to HDD boot priority but it's still running off the original :-( | 22:02 |
| Guest62342 | Maybe I'll have to swap the jumpers over on the disks? | 22:03 |
| gordonjcp | Darael: o_O | 22:04 |
| gordonjcp | Darael: doesn't that rather depend on the order in which it detects the physical disks? | 22:05 |
| Darael | One would think so. I'm going off hazy memory of my last multi-disk multiboot scenario rather than logic. | 22:05 |
| jutnux | Cashew nuts are so nice jeeeeeze | 22:05 |
| Guest62342 | I'll revisit BIOS again... just in case. If it's still booting from the Seagate I'll swap jumper to get the WD as Primary Master... I'll be back :-) | 22:07 |
| === mike is now known as Guest6415 | ||
| mikeatvillage | Darael: Eventually got my machine to boot off sdb by making it the first HDD in boot priority and sda as third ! | 22:34 |
| Darael | mikeatvillage: Interesting. | 22:35 |
| mikeatvillage | darael: more like weird :-) | 22:35 |
| Darael | That too :) | 22:35 |
| mikeatvillage | darael: Thanks for your help | 22:36 |
| Darael | It wasn't particularly helpful help, I'm afraid. However. | 22:37 |
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