[01:25] loughborough... [01:26] for some reason the train stops for 10 minutes at every station [01:28] Train driver's probably speeding === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [02:27] made it [05:10] Hi can anybody help me? [05:12] I have problem with my huawei 3g USB on UBUNTU 11.04.It is not connecting [08:38] morning all [08:44] \o popey [08:55] good morning :) [09:12] morning all o/ [09:12] morning all [09:17] good morning AlanBell! :) [09:17] annd MooDoo! [09:19] christel \o/ [09:19] we had yummy food in the dark last night [09:22] czajkowski: hows things? [09:24] we did indeed! [09:24] i cant believe we had shark [09:25] with frikkin lasers on their heads [09:26] hahaha yes! [09:26] GOOD MORNING bigcalm[mob] [09:27] Ack, not so loud [09:28] heh [09:28] bigcalm[mob]: i think i found one of your houses on mc [09:28] Good morning christel :) [09:28] bigcalm[mob]: on top of a hill with an unfinished garden [09:29] popey: that sounds like mine [09:30] I have to say, the T-Mobile reception isn't the best here [09:31] Good to see many of you last night :) [09:32] Though I didn't see any of you for awhile [09:32] hah [09:33] haha [09:33] such a comedian! :p [09:35] Looks like christel just defused a bomb [09:36] I AM AMAZING [09:37] Again with the shouting [10:51] good morning everyone. [10:52] brobostigon: Howdy [10:53] hi jutnux [11:18] AlanBell: meh, if I could have a new body for xmas I'd be happy [11:36] * christel gives czajkowski a christmas body [11:37] (you now look like santa, sorry) [11:37] <3 [11:37] heh [11:37] back is giving me jib [11:37] but I do have a date for op in January [11:38] so if it could just behave till then I'd be happy [11:40] oh good! when is it? [11:40] good that you have a date, not that it's bothering you [11:40] :) [11:41] 7th January they had a date for me next week but I fly the folowing week so not allowed [11:48] aha [11:49] :) [11:55] New computer core :-) to replace dying one :-( [11:56] Ah well, I get to see what fuss is with these shiny new i7 CPUses [12:07] You're replacing just one core? [12:07] I hope you have a portable fab handy. [12:21] hi all [12:22] Good morning! [12:22] I am sat in front of my brother in law's computer and it is a bit broken [12:22] * BigRedS looks shifty [12:22] Er, I wouldn't know anything about that [12:22] won't boot at all, and the drive (with raid controller) is unhappy [12:23] won't create mount points in /dev apart from /dev/sda5 [12:23] and sda5 is just swap [12:23] Surely it's booted more than not at all if you're as far as having /dev? [12:24] running from live CD now [12:24] ahh [12:25] presumably the raid is normally /dev/sda? And swap is on some second disk? [12:25] yeah [12:25] fdisk -l shows the partition table [12:26] I'd be tempted to run testdisk to see if it disagrees with fdisk, but by that point I've normally given up and given it to The Hardware Guy [12:26] the thing will boot to a grub menu with a list of kernels but the keyboard seems unresponsive at that point [12:27] yeah, it is a hardware issue, just want to get some data off [12:28] oooh, odd. There's not a lot else to try to see if the issue is the keyboard or the software at that point [12:29] doing a SMART test now, will see what that can do [12:29] keyboard works on a live CD, but PS2 mouse does not! [12:30] this thing is borked [12:30] the PS2 mouse has power to it, but I am having to navigate the desktop by keyboard (lucky I do a lot of orca testing) [12:30] I take it this isn't mdraid? [12:31] I've seen several complaints of poor/patchy PS/2 support in 11.10 [12:35] 528 bad sectors :( [12:37] Oooh, not a good sign [12:38] ddrescue? [12:39] need another TB disk or something to rescue stuff to (if anything is left) [12:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/765828 [12:42] that is the kern.log [12:42] lots of media errors when trying to get partition information from sda [12:42] Yeah [12:42] does anyone have experience in configuring zsh? [12:43] Myrtti: I have a nifty prompt with teh time and everything. But I did that a few years ago and haven't touched it since [12:46] Myrtti: there's a script to get you started, I think you get prompted for it the first time you run zsh [13:10] Howdy everyone. [13:21] good afternoon jutnux [13:21] Hello jacobw, how are you on this fine saturday afternoon? [13:23] afternoon all [13:24] hullo [13:24] helo [13:25] Who has their openid setup? [13:29] Bacon Sandwiches *drool* [13:30] jutnux: *sniff*. Now I want bacon sandwiches. [13:30] Unlucky, I have 4 of them sitting here ;) [13:30] Oh yes, HP open sourced WebOS [13:33] woo [13:34] openid? People set that up themselves? [13:34] I set up one on symantec [13:34] but Google is an openid right? [13:34] along with linkedin [13:34] I tend to use my Launchpad one. [13:35] Good idea, why didn't I think of that ._. [13:35] i'm sure i have an openid [13:35] somewhere.. [13:36] Well, it's Ubuntu SSO, these days, of course, but I still think of it as Launchpad. [13:36] yes [13:37] Oh, I thought you meant set it up on your server as your own openID provider [13:37] No way, too much effort ;) [13:37] I've just been peripherally involved in setting that up for someone, and it seems that every implementation of it is broken [13:39] I'd prefer to use something that wont go down [13:40] google openid isn't great [13:40] i'm relearning to touch type [13:41] Jacobw: I've been able to touch type since I was 11. Bad times ensue when you setup your fingers wrong and you end end up typing something like shwhe ueicl rf;ls [13:41] i've discovered that i've been doing it wrong for years, with my right fingers on 'hjkl' rather that 'jkl;' [13:41] s/that/than [13:42] I just use 3 fingers [13:42] can still type 121wpm [13:42] 3 fingers on each hand that os [13:42] s/os/is [13:43] so you don't use your little finger? [13:43] No [13:43] never [13:43] Have no use for it lol [13:43] My fingers move so swiftly as they're quite big [13:44] jacobw: that's really common - I spent a while off-by-one on both hands. I don't think I really do home-row style touch typing any more, though [13:45] I just do muscle-memory and inefficiency [13:46] its an obvious mistake [13:46] i blame vim [13:46] haha! yeah, I'd not thought of that [13:47] Well, to be fair, what kind of ridiculous person puts ; on the home row? [13:47] (disclaimer: Programmer-Dvorak typist) [13:47] a c programmer [13:47] c, perl, php programmers? [13:47] yeah [13:47] and anything else that ends statements with ; [13:47] It's still not as common as the letters, though... [13:47] Javaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [13:48] Pretty east to find out if you're a geek [13:48] see how worn the ; key is, as not many people use it correctly anyway. [13:48] I would at least shift it one to the right, so it's not under the rest-position for the fingers. [13:48] I've never been able to look at line endings the same since my sister asked why I had all these crying faces - all those lines ending ); [13:48] hahaha [13:49] HAHAHHAHAHA [13:49] You've passed the curse on :-{ [13:49] haha [13:50] Imagine what a Lisp programmer with commented code sees - winking-sad-face? ";(" [13:50] I've been pondering writing a source filter since, so I can end them with :) and it'll 'fix' them to ); but I think that might just _really_ confuse me [13:51] Anyone here hack in java? [13:52] Hah. I had a go at Java once [13:53] It is quite gooood [13:53] i hate java [13:53] I needed to write about 40K before I could start solving the problem [13:53] jutnux: Someone probably does. There are a hundred and nineteen nicks in here, after all, and only a /few/ of them are bots. [13:53] in Perl, I just need to write "#! /usr/bin/perl" and I can get on with it [13:53] In java, I just have to open up eclipse ;) [13:54] On the other hand, BigRedS, some languages have tentacles, but Perl /is/ tentacles. [13:54] I'm sure it has its plus points, but I'm not patient enough for it :) [13:54] that's why i hate java [13:54] I like Python too [13:54] When I was 9 I made a notepad app in VB.net [13:54] Too cool. [13:54] Darael: I'm still not sure whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that Perl always seems to do _exactly_ what I meant. [13:54] Ew, VB.net. [13:54] I was 9 :-( [13:54] It implies a good deal of wrongness in my head... [13:55] BigRedS: Worrying. Functioning DWIM is not supposed to have been implemented yet. [13:55] Haha, I know! It's going to catch me out one day, I'm sure [13:55] jutnux: Oh, fair enough. No negative reflection on thee, then. But still, ew, VB.net. [13:55] Yes, it is disgusting. [13:56] is vb.net markedly different to vb? [13:56] not that ever saw much of that, either [13:57] BigRedS: i have the same 'problem' with perl [13:57] Never used Perl. [13:57] jacobw: it's a bit embarrasing talking about it to non-perl people, I find [13:58] i would have said 'normal people' but 'non-perl people' works too [13:58] haha [13:58] BigRedS: Now you're actually supposed to use env aren't you rather than #!/usr/bin/perl ? [13:59] penguin42: arguably, yeah. But I've never had /usr/bin/perl not work, though we do still have some machines without a working env... [14:00] ah [14:00] Not to mention if there's more than one version of the interpreter in question installed, using env can result in the wrong one launching. [14:02] well, you get that with this, too. It's just more predictable which potentially wrong one you get [14:03] True. [14:05] Ooh. They finished painting the Forth Bridge [14:15] BigRedS, not once the wives find out they haven't ;) [14:44] does anyone know who the interviewee on bbc news is? [14:44] right now [14:45] jacobw: razia iqbal ? [14:45] justin cartwright. [14:45] yes [14:45] thank you :) [14:45] :) [14:46] jacobw: i simply pressed my red button, and it popped up all the info. [15:08] well i've moved my works desktop machine from Fedora to Ubuntu....:S [15:29] BigRedS: Just programming and I keep seeing sad faces :'( [15:30] not this unhappy lemur? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16125673 [15:31] jutnux: haha! Sorry about that [15:31] jutnux: I ended up subconciously avoiding them and getting syntax errors all over the shop :/ [15:51] How on earth can ifconfig return...nothing? [15:53] Azelphur: if no intefaces are up [15:53] Something took all of them including lo down? [15:54] ifconfig -a shows stuff [15:54] Azelphur: also, use "ip link" and "ip addr", not ifconfig [15:54] *shrug* [15:54] ip > ifconfig [15:54] iw > iwconfig [15:54] guess I'll try rebooting it and see if that fixes it, weird. [15:54] the Windows solution! [15:54] Azelphur: you could just ifup -a [15:54] INDEED [15:56] http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/12/08/mojang-and-lego-team-up-for-minecraft-lego-sets/ [15:56] omg...want [15:57] * penguin42 had noticed a lot of Lego branded things this year - I think they had a book and a board game [16:14] Anyone seen the lego tree? [16:14] In Birmingham I think it is [16:29] evening all [16:30] hiya Laney [16:30] alright MooDoo [16:30] just got back from town [16:30] rather busy! [16:32] Do anything fun Laney? [16:32] purchased 1 christmas present [16:32] a penguin? [16:33] the lindsay lohan issue? [16:35] http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/5062/75670/?ba=EmperorBevis [16:51] Laney! you made it home then? :) [16:51] hah! eventually [16:51] slowest... train... ever... [16:51] hehe [16:52] did you stay much longer? [17:01] not much longer, we left on the 23.23 from waterloo [17:01] :) [17:05] sweet [17:24] lol at this site, http://www.youhavedownloaded.com [17:25] It tells me that I'm using a private tracker or may not torrent at all, which is the polar opposite of the truth :P [17:25] also, 192.168.1.1 seems to do a lot of piracy. [17:26] Azelphur: Doesn't have any records on me, either. [17:26] lol [17:26] Darael: it's funny because I perform multiple downloads on public trackers on a daily basis. [17:26] I didn't know there were that many Linux distros around! [17:26] Indeed! [17:27] Yes, I torrent a reasonable amount, too (though not as much as thee, Azelphur!). [17:27] if you put 192.168.1.1 into the search box it comes up with lots of evil stuff 192.168.1.1 has done [17:27] xD [17:27] That's interesting, considering that there's usually only a router on that address. [17:28] 192.168.1.2 and .3 are misbehaving too [17:28] That, I would expect. [17:28] seems like most of the block too, haha [17:28] Ditto 192.168.{0,2}.* [17:29] Funny, that. [17:29] indeed, gotta wonder if it's catching their internal network haha [17:29] I wonder how it's getting the IP addresses to attribute downloads to. [17:32] Darael: It looks like it's hosted inside godaddy, perhaps it's picking up all the piracy that goes on inside godaddy xD [17:32] Azelphur: Heh. [17:50] I want a deadmau5 mask :-( [17:58] deadmau5 <3 [17:58] I'm more of a metal guy myself [17:58] but deadmau5 is good [17:58] :) [18:30] does anyone know a decent place that sells nice heavily customizable laptops like this http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-15416-laptops-ct-95_51_149.html [18:30] but in the UK [18:46] only alienware [18:58] :( [19:09] alienware charges like 2x as much as xotipc :( [19:10] Azelphur: most likely they only scan the most popular torrents [19:10] ali1234: :P [19:11] so if you don't download jersey shore or whatever, then they won't see you [19:12] ali1234: *shrug* I pretty much do that, haha [19:14] actually i'm starting to think the site is a pure scam [19:14] can anyone confirm that it's at all accurate? [19:16] none of my friends have had any sane results off it [19:20] the way they do it is the same way they do anything else, they just connect to torrents they get from various sites/feeds and grab the ips of everyone else in the swarm - it picked up some japanese tv shows i downloaded once [19:20] which is specific enough if you ask me [19:22] yeah, only one person in the UK downloads hentai === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [19:23] kaKaizoku Sentai Gokaiger actually... japanese power rangers. shut up, its great and you can't get it anywhere in the west >:( [19:24] gord: :) Just trolling, sorry === cypher_ is now known as czajkowski [19:52] Cypher out of the matrix? [19:53] ;) [19:53] Good evening peeps :) [19:53] Howdy bigcalm [19:56] \o [20:02] My school has started using memes [20:03] "Bins weren't cool *baby face* until I started using them" [20:03] jutnux: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-of-the-college-freshman-meme ? [20:03] Nope I'm British [20:03] And in a High School [20:24] jutnux: how does one 'start using memes'? [20:25] how does one not use memes [20:25] jacobw: They started putting them on bins, on walls everything. [20:25] Theyre using QR codes yet we aren't allowed phones. [20:27] in my day, we decode qr codes with a slide rule and LIKED it [20:27] hehe [20:29] i'm confused by the use of 'meme' to refer to an object [20:29] I think he means pictures [20:29] memes are a concept [20:29] like from quickmeme [20:29] or rage comics [20:29] oh, i see [20:31] http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35c6do/ [20:32] A meme a day keeps the boredom away! [20:32] use ALL the memes [20:32] (or at least alot of memes) [20:32] I was a lover of memes, until I got an arrow through the knee. [20:34] I was a lover of knees, until I got an meme through the arrow. [20:34] ;) [20:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ5MA685ApE&feature=youtu.be [20:46] I've never unsterstood the idea of obscuring the bit that the camera is focusing on [20:46] must be a german thing [20:46] Must have private details or something [20:46] When they are looking at the PDa that is [20:47] yeah, I'd have just thought that if you want to video it, you just tape over it [20:47] black bar it [20:47] or something [20:47] not the entire centre of the video [20:47] Too much effort I guess? [20:47] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/italian-rock-band-release-album-recorded-using-ubuntu/ === mike_ is now known as Guest62342 [21:59] Hi all. I've just cloned my main disk to my spare... how do I now get my machine to boot from sdb instead of sda? [22:01] Reorder the disks in the BIOS? [22:02] Bear in mind that the disk that was formerly sdb will, IIRC, be reported as SDA when one boots from it. [22:02] Thanks, I did change to HDD boot priority but it's still running off the original :-( [22:03] Maybe I'll have to swap the jumpers over on the disks? [22:04] Darael: o_O [22:05] Darael: doesn't that rather depend on the order in which it detects the physical disks? [22:05] One would think so. I'm going off hazy memory of my last multi-disk multiboot scenario rather than logic. [22:05] Cashew nuts are so nice jeeeeeze [22:07] I'll revisit BIOS again... just in case. If it's still booting from the Seagate I'll swap jumper to get the WD as Primary Master... I'll be back :-) === mike is now known as Guest6415 [22:34] Darael: Eventually got my machine to boot off sdb by making it the first HDD in boot priority and sda as third ! [22:35] mikeatvillage: Interesting. [22:35] darael: more like weird :-) [22:35] That too :) [22:36] darael: Thanks for your help [22:37] It wasn't particularly helpful help, I'm afraid. However.