[00:00] <MonkeyDust> Chucky1  if you're familiar with the command line, type: apt-cache search mail server|less, maybe you find something
[00:00] <washuu_de> I used firestarter for more than one year. Now I upgraded to maverick and firestarter does not work right anymore. It looks to me like there is a firewall over which I have no control now
[00:00] <murfie> dude.. there is no mail server with a web interface
[00:00] <washuu_de> not maverick! I meant natty
[00:01] <Hilarie> murfie squirrel mail
[00:01] <genn> L3d: it should be sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:01] <murfie> either you're looking for a html mail client like squirrelmail, or you're looking for a mta and you should just use postfix
[00:01] <Chucky1> i forget other people do use root
[00:02] <Chucky1> postfix with squirrelmail
[00:02] <Chucky1> ?
[00:02] <L3d> with the install it says e: unable to loacte packages
[00:02] <L3d> locate
[00:02] <Chucky1> sudo apt-get install updates
[00:02] <L3d> lol
[00:03] <brightspark> L3d: sudo apt-get update, not sudo apt-get install updates
[00:03] <Chucky1> oh im rusty damn
[00:03] <L3d> E: Unable to locate package updates
[00:03] <brightspark> same for upgrade
[00:03] <genn> L3d: because you're trying to install the package called 'updates' with that command and there is no package by that name
[00:03] <L3d> so it gets and installs at the same time ?
[00:04] <amine> pour aler sur ubuntu fr
[00:04] <murfie> I vote we should bundle ubuntu with a package called 'updates'.. who's with me?
[00:04] <murfie> it should do something like the 'sl' command :)
[00:05] <washuu_de> I have a question. Say when you have time...
[00:07] <L3d> so whats the cmd to instaal the updates and stuf ??
[00:07] <L3d> dam i confused
[00:07] <murfie> just click the update button
[00:07] <L3d> and this keyboard isnt helping
[00:07] <brightspark> L3d, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:07] <mongy> L3d,  forget ssl, just use ssh locally.  sudo apt-get install ssh,  ssh youruser@localhost -D 1234  then in browser set proxy to SOCKS5  localhost 1234 (replace 1234 with whatever you like)
[00:08] <murfie> first of all, forget the sudo thing
[00:08] <brightspark> L3d, update has apt check if new upgrades are available; upgrade installs the latest version of the package
[00:08] <murfie> do sudo -s once and do passwd to set a root password
[00:08] <L3d> this si fun
[00:08] <brightspark> murfie, we do not encourage setting a root password here.
[00:08] <amine_> salut
[00:09] <mhsy> salut
[00:09] <L3d> now i get id
[00:09] <murfie> where's "here"?
[00:09] <genn> washuu_de: just ask
[00:09] <washuu_de> Hi
[00:09] <fructose> Anyone know a graphical mail client that works with local mail?
[00:10] <murfie> kmail?
[00:10] <mhsy> hi
[00:10] <washuu_de> @Genn: I used firestarter for more than one year. Now I upgraded to maverick and firestarter does not work right anymore. It looks to me like there is a firewall over which I have no control now
[00:11] <L3d> so i need ghostry and ssh ,wich i need to copy the text from here ,so no ssl :D
[00:11] <brightspark> murfie, this channel in particular, and most ubuntu support you will find is the same.  The accepted practice is to use sudo and gksudo as appropriate.
[00:11] <fri3za> https_everywere
[00:11] <fri3za> :)
[00:11] <murfie> brightspark: it's like asking your parents if you're allowed to go to the movies, while you're 20 years old
[00:12] <MonkeyDust> !root| murfie
[00:13] <murfie> yawn:)
[00:13] <amine> je veu re rejoint ubuntu fr
[00:13] <Yukiii> hi
[00:13] <yeats> !fr | amine
[00:13] <L3d> will do ,thnx pps will return in a short while gl&hf and gtfo wit youtube imo
[00:13] <murfie> if you don't separate root and a user in sudoers, you're asking for troubles
[00:13] <washuu_de> genn: Are you here anymore? Do you need more info? Say so please instead of just disappearing
[00:14] <L3d> know all dutch +belgium certificates were hacked weeeeeeeeeeeeee
[00:14] <L3d> burp
[00:15] <murfie> in fact, a root password must be strong, and a user password, oh well, tends to be less strong. and when that user is in the sudoers file, you have an immediate security breach, hence, don't be a fool and just use a root password and use it wisely
[00:15] <amine> merci yeats
[00:15] <amine>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[00:15] <mes0r> i think my lucid distro (vendor provided) is running an older kernel.  How can I find the default kernel version?
[00:15] <_cb> Am using 9.10 the Karmic Koala and planning to upgrade to 11.10. When I installed 9.10 I created several partitiions (recommended by a book). Want to do a fresh re-install but want to leave /dev/sda10 intact. Will I be able to do that pretty easily?
[00:15] <genn> washuu_de: still her but not really familiar with firestarter or firewalls. sorry, hope someone else can help.
[00:16] <amine>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[00:16] <washuu_de> Genn:ok. I ask at another time. people here are busy. Time for bed for me anyway.
[00:16] <brightspark> amine, ne tapez pas un espace avant le "/".
[00:17] <washuu_de> Gen: tnx anyway
[00:17] <genn> washuu_de: no worries. good luck.
[00:17] <yeats> !info linux lucid | mes0r
[00:17] <Yukiii> hi
[00:17] <murfie> cb: yes but be sure to do manual partitioning
[00:18] <amine> re salut
[00:18] <mes0r> ubottu: thanks so i should be on 2.6.32 at least.   how would my vendor have gotten the 2.6.18 kernel installed
[00:18] <mes0r> haha
[00:18] <amine> re salut
[00:19] <Yukiii> salut amine
[00:19] <Yukiii> tu es d'ou?
[00:20] <yeats> mes0r: could be an older installation that just still has the older kernel installed?
[00:21] <mes0r> so they are just installing from an old version, gotcha.  i will ask them to update
[00:21] <yeats> mes0r: mind you, it would have to be *really* old ;-)
[00:21] <mes0r> ok thanks
[00:22] <gfgffsdfjgidfg> hi
[00:23] <frotzed> Anyone involved in the papercuts stuff?
[00:24] <excelsior> how does one edit the gui Applications menu without using the gui editor? The gui editor doesn't work.
[00:24] <washuu_de> Can anyone help me with DCC problems? It started after I upgraded from maverickt to natty
[00:25] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| excelsior washuu_de
[00:25] <washuu_de> !gq
[00:25] <excelsior> MonkeyDust: !inappropriate
[00:25] <zteam> Hi
[00:26] <zteam> Is there any way to disable the executeflag permisson
[00:26] <excelsior> how does one edit the gui Applications menu without using the gui editor? The gui editor doesn't work.
[00:27] <zteam> I need to install a wine application from a cd and the executable flag prevents me from doing it
[00:28] <Hatori> Zteam. Change it
[00:28] <murfie> copy it to another medium first
[00:28] <brightspark> zteam: right-click>Properties>Permissions.  select the ones you want.
[00:29] <washuu_de> I want to use xdcc. I changed from maverick to natty. It worked in natty. now it is not working. Is that a correctly formed question ? Oh yes.. xdcc doesn't work since I upgraded.
[00:29] <zteam> Hatori, that won't work on a CD...
[00:30] <excelsior> how does one edit the gui Applications menu without using the gui editor? The gui editor doesn't work.
[00:31] <zteam> brightspark you can't change the permisson on a CD
[00:31] <frotzed> excelsior, what version?
[00:31] <Hatori> Excelsior. You can use a lot of basic editor. Almost of configuration was on plain files
[00:32] <indicator> Hi, I have a thinkpad T520 and for some reason, I cannot connect to wireless n access points
[00:33] <murfie> use a cable?
[00:33] <indicator> that's not a fix...
[00:33] <Hatori> Excelsior. You can copy it to disk
[00:33] <zteam> and if I try to run it from a commandline I get this
[00:33] <zteam> wine /media/cdrom/ installer.exe
[00:33] <frotzed> excelsior, maybe gedit ~/.local/share/applications/name.desktop
[00:34] <zteam> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\plugplay.exe"
[00:34] <bigterd> anyone know of a good torrent client that will run in the background, and scan a folder for new *.torrent files, and automacically fire them up if detected?
[00:35] <frotzed> bigterd, pretty sure Deluge can be configured that way
[00:35] <qmanjr5> Is it possible to set an SFTP location to the sidebar?
[00:35] <murfie> rtorrent
[00:36] <bigterd> frotzed, thx  i'll check int oit.
[00:36] <murfie> no
[00:36] <murfie> use rtorrent
[00:37] <bigterd> garh! which is the simplist?
[00:37] <bigterd> prefer it to work on open or freebsd, but linux is fine.
[00:37] <genn> indicator: do you see the network?
[00:37] <murfie> as I said
[00:37] <murfie> rtorrent
[00:39] <frotzed> Depends on what you want.  Deluge has a gui, rtorrent is command line
[00:39] <frotzed> One is wildly popular, one is obscure.
[00:40] <bigterd> strictly ssh
[00:40] <bigterd> :/
[00:40] <bigterd> and it's a 486/66 with 8mb ram
[00:41] <frotzed> sounds like you need a console-driven client
[00:41] <excelsior> frotzed: thanks, but no cigar. I'm using 10.10, any other thoughts about where to find a way to edit the Applications menu? Someone has managed to mess it up, and I can't get the Office menu back where it belongs.
[00:42] <washuu_de> !details
[00:43] <abstrakt> oh man, so I just tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-96
[00:43] <abstrakt> and the command 'worked'
[00:43] <abstrakt> but now my system is totally hosed
[00:43] <abstrakt> wtf, i can only see one line of text in irssi
[00:43] <abstrakt> weird, the user list is blocking the rest
[00:43] <loglady> what do i type to switch to a different server
[00:43] <bigterd> abstrakt, i tried to upgrade a 8x distro to the latest, but first i had to go to 9x, then 10x, then 11x, only to discover i had to use a gui to do it!
[00:43] <bigterd> ha, shit.
[00:45] <polardude1983> Hello, I am trying to convert any videos in a folder, and have the same output name as the input name. Right now any video converted renames to movie.mp4. How do i keep the original title?
[00:45] <washuu_de> I upgraded to natty and now I can't use DCC anymore.
[00:47] <theopensourcemc> peace!\
[00:47] <webnet> hello all im back!
[00:47] <webnet> :D
[00:48] <excelsior> I have a problem with my Applications menu, Accessories is missing, Office was accidentally dropped in Science and can't be moved back, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10, I installed the Edubuntu package, can anyone recommend a solution?
[00:48] <washuu_de> I give up on you. Godd night
[00:48] <theopensourcemc> help installing a tar
[00:48] <gotgnu> is there any way installing gnome 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10?
[00:48] <webnet> ok excelsior, right click the menu and select edit menus.
[00:49] <gnu_lorien> I can't seem to get ctrl alt backspace to work in Ubuntu 11.10. I use xfce so I tried the setxbmap setting from https://wiki.edubuntu.org/X/Config/DontZap and it doesn't seem to work
[00:50] <xangua> gotgnu: oneiric already uses gnome 3.2
[00:50] <glebihan> gotgnu, you're already running gnome3.2, if you mean gnome-shell, it's in the repos
[00:50] <webnet> that will allow you to edit the menu back to the way it was excelsior. pm if you need additional help
[00:50] <gotgnu> glebihan: so just sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[00:50] <frotzed> gotgnu, there are many many tuts online for using gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10
[00:50] <glebihan> gotgnu, yes
[00:51] <gotgnu> glebihan: see I thought ubuntu 11.10 was gnome 3.0
[00:52] <glebihan> gotgnu, it's 3.2
[00:52] <gotgnu> glebihan: thanks man
[00:52] <glebihan> gotgnu, you're welcome
[00:53] <jikay> hi
[00:53] <jikay> hi
[00:53] <w0_> hello
[00:53] <frotzed> jikay, hello
[00:53] <jikay> yes|::
[00:53] <jikay> can you help me
[00:53] <jikay> frotzed
[00:53] <jikay> sbts-tv
[00:54] <sbts-tv> hi all, are there any raid experts around?
[00:54] <sbts-tv> jikay: hi there
[00:54] <jikay> frotzed, hello
[00:54] <jikay> hi too
[00:54] <frotzed> jikay, I can try
[00:56] <polardude1983> When converting a video in command line how do i keep the original title? espcially when batch converting?
[00:57] <loglady> what do i type to switch to a different server
[00:58] <RxDx> i bought a notebook with nvidia optimus.. how can i enable the nvidia graphic card on ubuntu?
[00:58] <sbts-tv> polardude1983: i haven't seen anything you have said previously but, first would need to know what commandline you are using to do the conversion.
[00:59] <polardude1983> sbts-tv, here is the command line for what im using http://paste.ubuntu.com/765497/
[00:59] <sbts-tv> RxDx: there should be a menu item (normally in Applications>Settings or Applications>system) called "Additional Drivers"
[00:59] <loglady> irssi
[01:00] <loglady> join #logladyland
[01:00] <sbts-tv> loglady: check out "/help server" and "/help channel"
[01:00] <sbts-tv> loglady: that is for servers, if you want to join another channel look at "/help join"
[01:01] <sbts-tv> polardude1983: give me a moment to look
[01:01] <RxDx> sbts-tv: there are no officialy driver that supports optimus technology
[01:01] <``PeeR> someone is on weechat here?
[01:04] <Arcademan> Is there any directions on how to do a net install of Ubuntu I might find?
[01:04] <sbts-tv> RxDx: Oh, sorry I am so used to ubuntu being very wuick to have new nvidia drivers available.
[01:04] <LABcrab> Hello!  i have many files that end with ".temp" extension.  How can i bulk remove them please?
[01:04] <sbts-tv> RxDx: hve you found anything on the web regarding drivers for optimus?
[01:05] <webnet> LABcrab, why do you need to remove them?
[01:05] <Gskellig> can someone help me with a 403 forbidden apache error on my ubuntu server?
[01:05] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: with EXTREEM caution in each directory that contains the files try "rm *.temp" if it blows up your system don't blame me. please do read "man rm" first
[01:05] <LABcrab> webnet: Let me make a correction, sorry.
[01:06] <LABcrab> What i mean is to remove the ".temp" extension.  For example, rename "file1.png.temp" and "file2.mp3.temp" to "file1.png" and "file2.mp3".
[01:07] <velociostrich> Since dbus has replaced gconf, are all applications no longer using gconf? How can I remove the unnecessary keys in gconf that are now in gsettings/dconf?
[01:07] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: well that changes things quite a lot!!!!!
[01:08] <burnt1> hi, just moved from windows 7 to ubuntu, loving it
[01:08] <burnt1> got a q :)
[01:08] <burnt1> I dont see system menu on my tool bar
[01:08] <burnt1> just applications and places
[01:08] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: check out the man page for find. it has an option "exec" that will allow you to do what you want
[01:08] <xangua> velociostrich: don'y you mean Dconf ¿¿
[01:08] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: isn't there a blk page?
[01:08] <velociostrich> xangua: Yes, whoops
[01:08] <burnt1> am i doing anything wrong
[01:08] <xangua> dconf != dbus velociostrich
[01:09] <velociostrich> xangua: I know
[01:09] <velociostrich> xangua: Typo
[01:09] <velociostrich> or rather, a brainfart
[01:09] <sbts-tv> polardude1983: I am just having a look to see what I can find.
[01:09] <frotzed> burnt1: what functions are you looking for in particular?
[01:09] <burnt1> how do I system > prefs
[01:09] <polardude1983> sbts-tv, ok thank you
[01:09] <burnt1> sorry just system > preferences
[01:10] <abstrakt> so I just did sudo apt-get install nvidia-96
[01:10] <burnt1> so can set stuff, just dont seem to see it
[01:10] <abstrakt> and I totally screwed up my system
[01:10] <webnet> Ohhh LABcrab . ok
[01:10] <abstrakt> how can I undo this? is it possible?
[01:10] <frotzed> burnt1: the vast majority of those preferences are going to be managed via the "apps" in the dash
[01:10] <tmus> How do I install oneiric (desktop) on a preformatted / part? the installer seems to insist on mkfs'ing it?
[01:10] <chromaticwt> I have kernel 3.1.4 installed and I just compiled 3.1.5, how can I use ksplice to install the new kernel without rebooting?
[01:11] <burnt1> frotzed,  thanks, but going through guides trying to learn, and lots say goto system > preferences etc
[01:11] <velociostrich> chromaticwt: Deep wizardy.
[01:11] <burnt1> so struggling a bit
[01:11] <velociostrich> chromaticwt: I don't know if this is the right place for that kind of question, there might be a kernel related irc channel that's better
[01:11] <frotzed> burnt1: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:11] <chromaticwt> ok
[01:12] <robin0800> velociostrich: you use dconf editor
[01:12] <_cb> Am moving from Ubuntu 9 to Ubuntu 11. Will a backup from Evolution on 9 restore on 11 (Assume 11 comes with Evolution)
[01:12] <velociostrich> robin0800: You mean to say that in using dconf editor that will remove superflous gconf keys? That sounds unlikely
[01:13] <burnt1> latest
[01:13] <frotzed> burnt1: so on the dock on the left, on top is the link for the dash.  I'd start by exploring what the apps do in that dash.
[01:13] <root____1> Hiiiii guys
[01:13] <burnt1> but I installed old style gnome
[01:13] <burnt1> got rid of tool bar
[01:13] <burnt1> just want those options
[01:13] <frotzed> burnt1: ooohhhhh
[01:14] <burnt1> so can go system > preferences etc
[01:14] <RyanP> I'm running Oneiric. gnome-settings-daemon keeps crashing on me. Logging out, removing ~/.gconf and logging in works for that login. Is this something other people have seen?
[01:14] <sbts-tv> polardude1983: unfortunately handbrake doesn't give you an option to do that as far as I can see. so I think you should read "man find" and especially look at the "exec" option.
[01:14] <burnt1> im an it manager for a finance house so trying to get down with linux, so can migrate everything over
[01:14] <root____1> hii Guys i have problem when i do : Can't Find /dev/sr0 ; i don't have a SATA .. HELP HELP HELP HELP !!!!!!
[01:14] <polardude1983> sbts-tv, ok will do
[01:15] <sbts-tv> polardude1983: you basically need to use find to "find" each file and run handbrake on it using find's exec function
[01:15] <polardude1983> sbts-tv, k
[01:15] <robin0800> velociostrich: if they are common I guess it will but you can also install gconf editor
[01:15] <Mattheas> Does anyone know how to assign a specific driver to an ethernet port?
[01:16] <``PeeR> RyanP: what does it do when it crashs ?
[01:16] <burnt1> this is upsetting me a little... want system menu!
[01:16] <velociostrich> robin0800: That's not the problem. Since I've upgraded to 11.10, it left gconf keys that are no longer needed since there are dconf keys that do the same and those gconf keys are ignored. I was just curious if there was a way to remove them
[01:16] <webnet> LABcrab, i would say go to the desired directory in terminal.
[01:16] <mophead> Hi everyone! Where do I find my divx cache?
[01:16] <frotzed> burnt1: I understand your frustration
[01:17] <burnt1> why is it not there?
[01:17] <burnt1> they remove it or somthing
[01:17] <webnet> LABcrab, then type rm *.temp
[01:17] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: what do you mean by a "blk page" ?
[01:17] <webnet> Anyone want to second me on that
[01:18] <webnet> ???
[01:18] <chibas> Hey Guuyyys
[01:18] <frotzed> burnt1: unfortunately I can't help you much with your specific situation.  I'm very familiar with the old gnome 2 and the new Unity but not gnome 2 on 11.10
[01:18] <webnet> oh dont do that.
[01:18] <chibas> I Have Problem Can't Find /dev/sr0 ???????
[01:18] <webnet> LABcrab, dont follow my direction
[01:18] <RyanP> ``PeeR: My trackpad stops working and the file browser doesn't look or act right.
[01:18] <frotzed> * but not the gnome 2-style menus on 11.10
[01:18] <sbts-tv> webnet: if you read the rest of what LABcrab said, he made a mistake, he wants to rename, not remove
[01:19] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: Precisely.
[01:19] <Mattheas> Does anyone know how to assign a specific driver to an ethernet port? 3 of the ports on my multiport NIC have gone to eth*_rename
[01:19] <Ogredude> good lord, ejabberd is horrible
[01:19] <webnet> sbts-tv, yeah i just saw that thats why i said dont do what i said
[01:19] <LABcrab> i wish it was easier.  Sometimes there are bulk programs that rename picture files from "IMG2432.JPG" to "03 - Photo.jpg"
[01:19] <Mattheas> Ogredude: What was your first clue :D
[01:20] <mophead> Hi everyone! Where do I find my divx cache?
[01:20] <Ogredude> Mattheas: when I saw the config file was incomprehensible and the documentation was completely unhelpful
[01:20] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: it can be done with a script (bash, perl, etc) or outright using find.
[01:20] <webnet> sbts-tv, LABcrab  isnt a temp not actually the file but a temp file used when downloading?
[01:20] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: Is there a guide somewhere?
[01:20] <Ogredude> moving to jabberd2.  I read that its config is in XML.  I understand XML.
[01:21] <Mattheas> Ogredude: that's nothing. Openfire just released a software update that makes it impossible to use spark. SMH x4
[01:21] <LABcrab> webnet: That was simply an example.  :)
[01:21] <webnet> LABcrab, what do you mean
[01:21] <webnet> ??
[01:21] <burnt1> ah thanks frotzed
[01:21] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: a quick google search for these terms "linux use find to rename bulk files" shows up quite a few options
[01:21] <``PeeR> RyanP: did you just upgrade for 11.04 or 11.10 ?
[01:21] <Mattheas> Does anyone know how to assign a specific driver to an ethernet port? 3 of the ports on my multiport NIC have gone to eth*_rename
[01:22] <LABcrab> But they must keep their original name!
[01:22] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: yep
[01:23] <LABcrab> "rename -v 's/\.JPG$/\.jpg/' *.JPG"
[01:23] <LABcrab> "rename -v 's/\.temp$/\/' *.JPG"
[01:23] <RyanP> ``PeeR: It's a new install.
[01:23] <robin0800> velociostrich: your best bet is a good backup and a clean install but gconv is still migrating to dconv and a certain amount of duplication still exists though very few gconf keys appear to work now
[01:23] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: goes to show, even a knowledgeable person can learn, I had not used rename before, one of the links I mentioned is about the same as yours
[01:23] <``PeeR> RyanP: new install, did you read this : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/ ???
[01:23] <webnet> OK LABcrab, here go to dir command: mv *.jpg.temp *.jpg
[01:24] <webnet> Second me sbts-tv ?
[01:24] <``PeeR> it's not most up to date RyanP but it could help
[01:24] <velociostrich> robin0800: In that case I'll just leave it alone. Hopefully by the next release dconf will have fully replaced gconf and perhaps the installation scripts will take care of the unnecessary keys, or it will be possible to simply remove gconf altogether.
[01:24] <LABcrab> :D
[01:24] <mophead> Hi everyone! Where do I find my divx cache? Trying to play a streaming file in vlc
[01:24] <sbts-tv> webnet: not so sure that will work, I think the shell globbing and expansion may cause a major stuff up there.
[01:25] <sbts-tv> webnet: the rename command is actually designed to do the job
[01:25] <Ogredude> Mattheas: really?  That sucks.
[01:25] <Ogredude> I'm only guessing at this point that jabberd2 is going to be okay
[01:25] <LABcrab> webnet: Doesn't accept anything but directories.  :(
[01:25] <``PeeR> RyanP:  it's not most up to date RyanP but it could help
[01:25] <webnet> sbts-tv, ok. makes sense
[01:25] <Mattheas> Ogredude: XMPP as a community has lost their minds
[01:26] <RyanP> ``PeeR: Yes, I've got the updates installed, and the additional drivers installed and such. I won't swear to it, but I'm thinking this might have started happening after the most recent updates.
[01:26] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: I have been doing embedded linux system design and server support etc for nearly 20 years and never had occasion to use rename so thankyou for helping me learn a little more
[01:26] <Ogredude> it looks like there's about fifteen zillion different XMPP servers available, and absolutely no indications of which ones are decent and which ones are crap.
[01:26] <Ogredude> I only installed ejabberd because it's what was listed on Ubuntu's wiki page
[01:26] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: you're welcome.  :)  But webnet's command only seems to work with directories.
[01:26] <Ogredude> all I want is an internal IM server, dangit :)
[01:27] <``PeeR> RyanP: well yeah I think developpers have a lot of job, this is a big change... Can't believe they already releas 12.xx ...
[01:27] <webnet> un try adding -R to the end of mv LABcrab
[01:27] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: not true, mv will take directories, or file, or for that matter even devices. but used like webnet mentioned it will make a mess of everything.
[01:27] <LABcrab> Doesn't accept it.
[01:27] <RyanP> ``PeeR: Oh sure. I was just wondering if this was a known problem or anything.
[01:28] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: I recommend making a copy of a few files into a temp directory and testing BEFORE running on live data. you could even just use "touch" to create a few empty files and try it out
[01:28] <webnet> ok sbts-tv is right LABcrab
[01:28] <``PeeR> RyanP: not by me sadly... sorry
[01:29] <RyanP> ``PeeR: Ok, thanks
[01:29] <``PeeR> RyanP: you're welcome
[01:30] <sbts-tv> webnet: mv has no -R option :)
[01:30] <vitaldoc> -R
[01:30] <diverdud`> -r
[01:31] <webnet> sbts-tv, you are correct. lol idk i must have been thinking of the rm command. recursive is already implied on a move command
[01:31] <sbts-tv> diverdud`: mv doesn't have a recurse (-R or -r) option, sorry :)
[01:31] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: Doesn't work for me at all. Does nothing.
[01:32] <mattgyver> My Wireless card suddenly became disabled but was working earlier, any suggestions? (10.10)
[01:32] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: please paste your exact command
[01:32] <webnet> ^^ yes
[01:33] <|Long|> hi guys, is there a cmd can tell me which hard drive is not mounted?
[01:33] <mattgyver> disregard, I had a moment.
[01:34] <LABcrab> "mv -r *.*.temp *.*"
[01:34] <webnet> sbts-tv, what if he used the -v parameter in mv
[01:35] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: no you can't use mv, if you want a ready to go command you MUST use rename
[01:35] <webnet> ok. lol. i know from experience bulk rename is semi complicated with the rename comman
[01:35] <webnet> *command
[01:35] <sbts-tv> webnet: mv is designed to handle one file or the top of a dir branch only. it actually does no processing on multiple files.
[01:36] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: Can you help me please?
[01:36] <webnet> sbts-tv, OHHH ok gotcha
[01:36] <pierre_desktop> Hi, I installed a new theme with icons and all. It was a .deb file but when I try to look for it in package manager, it's nowhere to be found. Another user tried to desinstall it from the terminal but then it wrecked his ubuntu installation. Would there be a way to reinstall the gnome default theme at all? I'm running Ubuntu 11.04
[01:36] <milamber> |Long|: are you looking for: sudo fdisk -l    ?
[01:36] <michaeljwjr> Why is it that no matter what when I update my drivers on my video card, my System Info still always says "VESA:CYPRESS" under Graphics ?
[01:36] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: if you could pasebin the output of ls for a sample of the files you want to rename please
[01:37] <|Long|> milamber, that doesn't tell me which drive is not mouted
[01:37] <usr13> |Long|: mount
[01:37] <n0sq> i'm having trouble converting 2 mandriva machines to ubuntu 11.10 - i formatted all partitions except for /home but i can't login except as guest - i won't lose much data if i formatted /home but i'd rather not do that
[01:38] <LABcrab> Substitution replacement not terminated at (eval 1) line 1.
[01:38] <LABcrab> 1 : commande introuvable
[01:38] <|Long|> usr13, yes that work thanks alot
[01:38] <sbts-tv> |Long|: there are two commands you should try, "mount" which will tell you what is mounted, and "sudo blkid" which will tell you what drives are on the system. also "cat /proc/partitions"
[01:39] <|Long|> sbts-tv, thanks
[01:39] <usr13> n0sq: Just use same user name and do not format /home/user
[01:39] <LABcrab> i almost want to give up and rename them manually!  :O  :(  :'(
[01:39] <webnet> LABcrab, try this:
[01:39] <milamber> |Long|: also the command: df
[01:40] <webnet> LABcrab, find /folder/the/files/are/in/ -name *.jpg.temp -exec rename -n 's/jpg.temp$/jpg/'
[01:41] <BarkingFish> ah, webnet - did you manage to sort out kripton and his graphics issues earlier?
[01:41] <michaeljwjr> Why is it that no matter what when I update my drivers on my video card, my System Info still always says "VESA:CYPRESS" under Graphics ?
[01:41] <n0sq> usr13: i did that but i can't log in - it seems that it accepts the password but i keep getting dumped back to the login screen
[01:42] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: I think you will have some luck with something like "rename s/.temp// *.temp"
[01:43] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: have you read the man page for rename? also check this link for some examples http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/06/how-to-rename-files-in-group/
[01:43] <usr13> n0sq: Sounds like the system either did not use the existing /home/ partition, or it is full.  ( /home/ is on a seperate partition, right?)
[01:43] <usr13> n0sq: df
[01:43] <n0sq> usr13: yes - /, /usr, /var,/home are different partions
[01:43] <meni> hi
[01:44] <LABcrab> All i get is an evil blinking cursor!
[01:44] <usr13> n0sq: I don't know then.
[01:44] <n0sq> i tried going back to mandriva and had the same problem
[01:44] <``PeeR>  my mouse...
[01:44] <meni> i want to make usb that can boot ubuntu,also that ill be able to save changes on this usb, Universal-USB-Installer can do that right?
[01:44] <usr13> n0sq: Could it be that the /home/ partition is full?
[01:44]  * n0sq hates these live cd's because you can't customize the install
[01:45] <``PeeR> when I scrollup the wheel... it makes like I was doing BACK... in firefox but also in everything where I can do BACK...
[01:45] <n0sq> usr13: nope, not full
[01:45] <LABcrab> sbts-tv: Typing that just gives me an empty cursor that keeps blinking.
[01:45] <usr13> n0sq: I don't know.  I've done it myself and so I know it works, not sure where you may have gone wrong. Sorry...
[01:46] <FuzzyNuts> Hi, do you want the boinc ball case?
[01:46] <FuzzyNuts> I need help, I just repackaked Fuduntu with AmigaOS Kernel instead of Stable 3.0.1 Kernel of Linux while driving my blue mustang to Red Blue Hat Offices!
[01:46] <sbts-tv> n0sq: can you login as any user? if so start a terminal and use "ls -la /home" to find out what user and group own the directories there. then "grep username /etc/passwd" and "grep groupname /etc/group" and make sure things look right
[01:46] <webnet> BarkingFish, nope
[01:46] <sidney_> can someone [lease tell me how to tell which repository is old or outdated and how to remove them http://paste.ubuntu.com/765080/
[01:47] <sbts-tv> LABcrab: as I asked before can you please pastebin output of "ls" for the directory you need to rename files in
[01:47] <n0sq> sbts-tv: only as guest
[01:47] <sw> And actually it was Fwet who had Blue Car as his Mustang is very very very blue. My car isn''t classified as blue as it's colour code is Navy Blue so it's not really blue.
[01:47] <usr13> n0sq: I suppose you could boot into failsafe mode and create another user, give new user admin privileges, (and all other necessary privileges), and then log in as the new user and try to fix it from there.
[01:47] <sbts-tv> n0sq: that should be fine
[01:47] <FuzzyNuts> Guys, HELP! I just repackaked Fuduntu with AmigaOS Kernel instead of Stable 3.0.1 Kernel of Linux while driving my blue mustang to Red Blue Hat Offices!
[01:47] <FuzzyNuts> What do I do?
[01:47] <n0sq> usr13: i don't know what the problem is either because i've put ubuntu on 2 other laptops with no problems
[01:48] <n0sq> usr13: there is no failsafe option given at boot
[01:48] <milamber> sidney_: that looks like a stock set for lucid . . . are you experiencing any issues specifically? you may just need to comment out the line for the cd . . .
[01:48] <n0sq> no grub menu at all
[01:48] <usr13> n0sq: Don't remember, but you should see it at the grub boot menu
[01:48] <FuzzyNuts> disregard this i'm a dumbass
[01:48] <``PeeR> not sure if I've been clear...
[01:49] <``PeeR>  my mouse...
[01:49] <``PeeR> when I scrollup the wheel... it makes like I was doing BACK... in firefox but also in everything where I can do BACK...
[01:49] <FuzzyNuts> Can anyone help me? Fuduntu still wasn't 2 years ago.
[01:49] <n0sq> usr13: there is no grub menu at all
[01:49] <sw> and I have thermodynamics netbook with truck power instead of passenger car performance engine
[01:49] <``PeeR> FuzzyNuts: ask
[01:49] <sidney_> milamber, update manager and terminal failed to update mismatch size
[01:49] <usr13> n0sq: add new user to   adm plugdev netdev admin
[01:50] <FuzzyNuts> PeeR: I said, I just repackaked Fuduntu with AmigaOS Kernel instead of Stable 3.0.1 Kernel of Linux while driving my blue mustang to Red Blue Hat Offices!
[01:50] <hendaus> help please
[01:50] <milamber> sidney_: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:50] <usr13> n0sq: What do you mean there is no grub menu?  Sure there is.  Hit Esc as it is starting to boot.  (Keep hitting it because the time window is narrow.)
[01:50] <milamber> usr13: isn't it right shift for grub?
[01:50] <hendaus> what is the code to convert wav to mp3 on ffmpeg_
[01:51] <FuzzyNuts> WILL SOMEBODY ME BLOODY HELP?!
[01:51] <usr13> n0sq: milamber says it's shift  Yea, hold down the shift key.
[01:51] <sw> Learn the space science or GTFO
[01:51] <sbts-tv> hendaus: not to be rude, have you read the manpage for ffmepg? "man ffmpeg"
[01:51] <usr13> milamber: I think most any key will do it but shift is more-than-likely best to use.
[01:52] <FuzzyNuts> FUCKING HELL, I NEED HELP!
[01:52] <usr13> n0sq: So hold down the shift key.
[01:52] <milamber> !language | FuzzyNuts
[01:52] <usr13> someone boot FuzzyNuts
[01:52] <hendaus> sbts-tv,  hi friend, i am newbie and i dont know much on ubuntu
[01:52] <FuzzyNuts> Just because you don't know the space science
[01:52] <n0sq> usr13: isn't the grub menu suppose to come up by default? why should i have to press any key to see the grub menu?
[01:53] <nick000> in unity why can't i hold down my arrow keys ?? this is driving crazy when trying to code
[01:53] <``PeeR> google is your friend if you don't find here what you're looking for...
[01:53] <FuzzyNuts> Because unity is SHIT
[01:53] <LinoSP> hi   Is ext4 fs  a good choice for a 10 yo system?
[01:53] <usr13> n0sq: It's just that they have it on a short fuse
[01:53] <usr13> !ops
[01:53] <nick000> this is happening every couple of days ;/
[01:53] <milamber> LinoSP: it is fine for general use, any particular reason you ask?
[01:54] <stepnjump> I installed a .deb package but the package is not listed in the Ubuntu Software Center. Should I be able to remove it by apt-get install package-name.deb?
[01:54] <FuzzyNuts> LinoSP: I'd say ReiserFS, then use it to kill your wife
[01:54] <hendaus> sbts-tv,  can u help me please
[01:54] <stepnjump> sorry apt-get remove ...
[01:54] <``PeeR> exit
[01:54] <nick000> I have spoken to other people and they have had the same issue.. is there any workaround to allow the arrow keys to work correctly ??
[01:54] <``PeeR> lol
[01:54] <``PeeR> sorry, wrong window
[01:54] <n0sq> usr13: i couldn't get it to come up - it shouldn't go by that fast anyway
[01:54] <sbts-tv> hendaus: for questions like that there are a large number of examples on the web, a google search for "ffmpeg wav to mp3" should be informative
[01:54] <milamber> stepnjump: unless you installed it as a package probably not. you have to use dpkg
[01:54] <Soath> dpkg -r
[01:55] <LinoSP> milamber: because im installing   lubuntu in an old  Laptop with 160MB of RAM
[01:55] <FuzzyNuts> do rm -rf
[01:55] <sidney_> milamber, http://paste.ubuntu.com/765528/
[01:55] <milamber> LinoSP: then ext4 is fine
[01:55] <usr13> n0sq: Did you hold down the Shift key the whole time?
[01:55] <stepnjump> milamber ok and how should I find the packages name?
[01:55] <hendaus> sbts-tv,  ok i read from websites but i come to here to get a help if someone help
[01:55] <sbts-tv> hendaus: also most linux utilities will have a "manpage" for ffmpeg if you run "man ffmpeg" at the command line (terminal) you will be able to read all about it, including get some examples
[01:55] <milamber> stepnjump: are you not sure what the package is called?
[01:55] <Syco54645> hm
[01:55] <FuzzyNuts> Who said dixie dancer?
[01:56] <usr13> n0sq: What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[01:56] <LinoSP> milamber: thx ;)
[01:56] <milamber> sidney_: that usually means you are trying to run it from the command line with software center open
[01:56] <stepnjump> yes of course... ok.. I thought they were called something else hum.... ok milamber  thanks let me try it
[01:56] <sw> I think A500 is my only real hope argumenting here
[01:56] <stepnjump> dpkg -r or -P milamber ?
[01:56] <Bibo> Are you trying to convert music or video or something??
[01:56] <milamber> sidney_: only one program can access the directory at a time
[01:56] <n0sq> usr13: 11.10
[01:56] <sw> It's a counter attack defending myself from other attacks of the series of Attacks in BattleZone. Which is blue in Firefox.
[01:56] <usr13> n0sq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[01:56] <FuzzyNuts> usr13: He installed the repackaked verson Fuduntu with AmigaOS Kernel instead of Stable 3.0.1 Kernel of Linux while driving my blue mustang to Red Blue Hat Offices!
[01:57] <nick000> has anyone else had the same issues with 11.10 unity where they can't hold down their arrow keys ???
[01:57] <milamber> stepnjump: -r will leave the config files -P removes everything
[01:57] <FuzzyNuts> nick000: Use a decent OS, programmed by those with intelligence in UI design?
[01:57] <stepnjump> milamber it was a theme package, with new icon set, etc... After uninstalling, will Gnome default icons automatically revert back?
[01:57]  * LinoSP revives an AMD-K6 380Mhz     xD
[01:57] <Bibo> Unity blows imo. I like GS but it's having issues with my graphics card, so I'm using XFCE now <3
[01:58] <sidney_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765529/
[01:58] <n0sq> usr13: i can't get it to shut down or reboot, also
[01:59] <_cb> Am using geany 0.18. Anyone know how can I export and import preferences?
[01:59] <SlackerD> cpu propaply plays stupid space shuttle OS with my GF!
[01:59] <FuzzyNuts> n0sq: use thermodynamics netbook with truck power instead of passenger car performance engine
[01:59] <usr13> n0sq: Alt-F6  and then  Ctrl-Alt-Del
[01:59] <Bibo> lawls
[02:00] <usr13> n0sq: Maybe you have some other, more fundamental problem. Not sure.  Not much to go on here.
[02:00] <Bibo> n0sq: it's your keyboard bro
[02:00] <FuzzyNuts> Hey bibo
[02:00] <FuzzyNuts> do you have thermodynamics netbook with truck power
[02:00] <nick000> FuzzyNuts: Yes, i am thinking of changing window manager but its just crap that it does this ;/
[02:00] <Bibo> FuzzyNuts: Yeah it's running on diesel
[02:01] <LABcrab> Thanks!  i just renamed them manually.  :P
[02:01] <FuzzyNuts> WINRAR
[02:01] <n0sq> Bibo: keyboard works fine
[02:01] <stepnjump> milamber: yep that's what I feared:  sudo dpkg -P 120508-MagIcons_0.3-0_all
[02:01] <stepnjump> dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching 120508-MagIcons_0.3-0_all
[02:01] <milamber> stepnjump: dpkg -l | grep Magicons
[02:02] <stepnjump> thanks milamber
[02:02] <``PeeR> damn, not the same thing with ssh lol
[02:03] <FuzzyNuts> PeeR, ShitOS absolute beats farging Raeg with 1% marketshare!
[02:03] <Ibis> FuzzyNuts: WinRAR sucks. YOu can just install RAR inside linux's built-in archieve utility.
[02:03] <elky> FuzzyNuts, please behave
[02:03] <Ibis> FuzzyNuts: Or use Peazip inside windows. That decompresses .RARs.
[02:04] <FuzzyNuts> elky: U mad because ShitOS absolute beats farging Raeg with 1% marketshare!
[02:04] <Gskellig> ?
[02:04] <FuzzyNuts> You're so idiot, you think that lanax beats moran for somebody!
[02:04] <stepnjump> ok milamber, now it has desinstalled it. Should I do an update or anything or just log out and log back in?
[02:04] <Ibis> Peazip/7zip are wonderful free alternatives. No need for silly "winRAR".
[02:04] <milamber> stepnjump: if you did the -P you should be good with a logout
[02:04] <velociostrich> Anyone know the name of the plugin in XFCE that provides the volume control thing that also has play/pause/etc buttons in the menu for banshee/rythmbox?
[02:04] <webnet> !language | FuzzyNuts
[02:05] <FuzzyNuts> poo absolute builded Android Desktop instead of 64 bit!
[02:05] <stepnjump> great thanks... Hope I'll talk back at you in a few seconds... Let me cross my fingers
[02:05] <usr13> velociostrich: Just add the mixer to the pannel
[02:05] <stepnjump> and make a little prayer
[02:05] <Bibo> velociostrich: panflute, but you'll need xfapplet to run in in xfce because it's a gnome thing
[02:05] <Gskellig> can someone help me with 403 error with apache on an ubuntu server
[02:05] <elky> FuzzyNuts, if you can't behave here, go elsewhere please. this is a support channel
[02:05] <usr13> velociostrich: Oh, add rythmbox to it.
[02:05] <velociostrich> usr13: I wanted to know so that I could take a look at the source. Thanks
[02:06] <FuzzyNuts> but my truck poward netbook propaply plays blue Android Desktop for somebody!
[02:07]  * sbts-tv applaudes elky 
[02:07] <``PeeR> test
[02:07] <milamber> ``PeeR: works
[02:07] <usr13> Gskellig: read the log file
[02:07] <``PeeR> lol thx milamber
[02:08] <usr13> Gskellig: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[02:08] <velociostrich> Bibo: That's not the one, unfortunately. I think I may be able to figure out which it is though...
[02:09] <webnet> OP webnet
[02:10] <Hellhammer> How do i get the network manager to return to the notification area if i removed it?
[02:10] <sbts-tv> any experts in raid about?
[02:11] <FerchoLP> do someone use RapidSVN?
[02:11] <``PeeR> am I fucked if I don't know my root password?
[02:11] <xangua> !root | ``PeeR
[02:11] <``PeeR> I'm able to do sudo commands but I can't do su -
[02:12] <xangua> Hellhammer: with unity¿
[02:12] <usr13> !language | ``PeeR
[02:12] <Hellhammer> im using gnome2
[02:12] <FerchoLP> you can:     sudo su
[02:12] <tektime> sudo passwd would let you change it
[02:12] <usr13> tektime: That's really not a good idea.
[02:12] <webnet> Sudo passwd woul ENABLE the root account tektime
[02:13] <xangua> !panels | Hellhammer
[02:13] <``PeeR> sudo su -
[02:13] <``PeeR> lol
[02:13] <usr13> tektime: And that is not what he asked.
[02:13] <``PeeR> wrong window
[02:13] <webnet> If your user is in the sudoers then there shouldnt be an issue
[02:13] <tektime> i thought he already has root enabled and has forgotten the password
[02:13] <sidney_> milamber, here we go http://paste.ubuntu.com/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/765540/
[02:14] <usr13> tektime: I doubt it....
[02:14] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: is there a reason you want to use su -?
[02:14] <webnet> tektime, that still wouldnt make a difference
[02:14] <arooni-mobile> my touchpad doesnt work on my t420 laptop;  running latest ubuntu
[02:14] <stepnjump> nope... the theme is still there :(
[02:15] <frankperez87> does anyone know of a good screen/audio recorder that can export videos as mp4 or avi
[02:15] <``PeeR> sbts-tv: nope... It's my computer... I can sudo if I want but I don't understand why I can't be root.. hehe I have installed ubuy myself...
[02:15] <Ricklee> Can someone help me im installing ubuntu 11.10 32bit and everything installs correctly but after the restart the boot menu didn't show up its just stuck with a dos blinking thing...
[02:15] <martha> how can install skype onto here?
[02:15] <frankperez87> PeeR: do sudo su
[02:15] <usr13> frankperez87: Are you wanting to do screencasting ?
[02:15] <frankperez87> that should let you run as root
[02:15] <webnet> Ricklee, its not dos its bash
[02:15] <xangua> martha: go to skype.com
[02:15] <sidney_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765545/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/765540/
[02:15] <martha> i did that
[02:15] <webnet> !bash | Ricklee
[02:16] <martha> it doesnt fully install
[02:16] <webnet> Ricklee, it sounds as though no bootloader has installed
[02:16] <webnet> ?
[02:16] <``PeeR> frankperez87: and then I'll be able to change the root passwd ?
[02:16] <martha> my cousin built this comp so i dont know how it works compared to dell or hp
[02:16] <Ricklee> It wont boot into ubuntu at all it just hangs
[02:16] <martha> windows 7 i mean
[02:16] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: if you want to become root just use "sudo -i" I would advise reading the manpage for sudo :)
[02:16] <Ricklee> I've installed it 6 times now
[02:17] <Ricklee> How do I get the bootloader to load?
[02:17] <usr13> Ricklee: What do you see on the screen?
[02:17] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: just remember that the reason you are steered away from being root is it is *DANGEROUS
[02:17] <martha> or better yet..how can i reboot my laptop with a usb?
[02:17] <``PeeR> lol yeah I'm a bit coward tonight, thanks guys ;) lol
[02:18] <``PeeR> sbts-tv: yeah it's not windows, they don't ask "are you sure?!"
[02:18] <Ricklee> It loads my bios screen then right begot its supposed to show the bootloader there is nothing
[02:18] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: you should NEVER need to set the root password.
[02:18] <usr13> Ricklee: What does it do when you boot?
[02:18] <martha> help me please =)
[02:18] <webnet> sbts-tv, dont bother i already tried in pm
[02:18] <``PeeR> sbts-tv: even in the installation!?
[02:18] <usr13> Ricklee: The screen is black?  or...?
[02:19] <usr13> Ricklee: What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[02:19] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: yep, the root password when set, opens up potential security holes. on a system that uses sudo it should never be set
[02:19] <nick000> 11.04 i can't hold down any keys ! ;(
[02:20] <webnet> nick000, ok? we need more info to help you
[02:20] <Ricklee> It wont boot into ubuntu at all. Not a blank screen ut shows my networks loading and drives loaded.  All the usual stuff before it is supposed to load the IS
[02:20] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: anything the *must be done as root can be done safer using sudo
[02:20] <usr13> Ricklee: Did you tell the installer to write grub to the mbr of the primary drive?
[02:20] <webnet> ^^ i second tht
[02:20] <``PeeR> wo sbts-tv , can I add sudoers without being root ?
[02:20] <Ricklee> How do I do that /
[02:20] <Ricklee> ?
[02:20] <``PeeR> wo = so
[02:21] <webnet> ``PeeR, yes if you are a sudoer
[02:21] <usr13> ``PeeR: sudo
[02:21] <webnet> ``PeeR, which you are by default
[02:21] <sbts-tv> if you want to edit the sudoers file you should ALWAYS use sudoedit
[02:21] <nick000> webnet: when using the unity windows manager on 11.04 on my laptop i can't hold down any keys on my keyboard doesn't matter what application i am in.. say if i want to print a string of AAAAAAAAAA's i can't just hold down the 'A' key
[02:21] <``PeeR> ok nice... i thought that I had to be root to change sudoers
[02:21] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: if you want to edit the sudoers file you should ALWAYS use sudoedit
[02:22] <nick000> webnet: if i reboot it fixes the issue but then it willl evenually come back again.. it is drivin me crazy specially if i need to work on a doc or do some coding..
[02:22] <colloquialismic> hey guys
[02:22] <usr13> !sudo | ``PeeR
[02:22] <colloquialismic> i have a bit of a problem
[02:22] <colloquialismic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765537/
[02:22] <sbts-tv> ``PeeR: if you just edit it with anyold editor you can end up breaking your system
[02:22] <webnet> OHHHHH. that nick000, click the ubuntu button on the top left of the screen and then do a search for keyboard
[02:23] <Bibo> colloquialismic: what's the problem?
[02:23] <usr13> ``PeeR: There is probably no real reason for you to want to edit sudoers in the first place.
[02:23] <Ricklee> usr13 how do I tell the installer to add the bootloader into the mbr of the drive?
[02:23] <colloquialismic> Bibo, I am unable to connect to my router on ubuntu... however I CAN connect on Windows.. Here is a results/testing http://paste.ubuntu.com/765537/
[02:24] <nick000> webnet: do i select keyboard? or one of the other results.
[02:24] <``PeeR> yeah guys I'm playing with my machine at home to not make mistake at my job ;)
[02:24] <Ricklee> Someone help me....
[02:24] <usr13> Ricklee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[02:25] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: it would appear that you don't have a network cable correctly connected
[02:26] <nick000> webnet: do i change the input method ?
[02:26] <webnet> select keyboard nick000
[02:27] <colloquialismic> sbts-tv, no... it is fully connected :(
[02:27] <usr13> Ricklee: You can fix it.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[02:28] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: hmmmmm, let me look again....
[02:28] <webnet> nick000,  put a check in the repeat keys checkbox
[02:28] <meni> hi
[02:28] <usr13> Ricklee: But maybe you need to first check cmos settings to see if it is set to boot to HD
[02:28] <sidney_> You know i configured this firewall two weeks ago and haven't heard from it at all. Wonder if it really works
[02:28] <Ricklee> It's set to boot from my only Hdd
[02:29] <meni> ive installed ubuntu on usb, i missing wireless driver, how i can download the driver for ubuntu and install it from the usb plesae?:)
[02:29] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: do you have a network cable connected, or are you trying to use wireless?
[02:29] <colloquialismic> sbts-tv, it is wireless, and my router is connected... i can use it on windows..
[02:29] <nick000> thanks webnet !
[02:29] <webnet> no prob. was it unchecked nick000?
[02:29] <webnet> was that the problem?
[02:29] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: ahhhhhh, wireless. what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:30] <meni> anyone please?^_^
[02:30] <usr13> sidney_: CanYouSeeMe.org
[02:31] <Ricklee> Seventh install and it boots fine lol.
[02:31] <usr13> meni: see what it is first.  lspci
[02:31] <Ricklee> How would I add windows 7 and windows xp to my Hdd and have it show up on the boot menu?
[02:31] <meni> im switch to windows atm
[02:32] <meni> because i cant use wireless on ubuntu :S
[02:32] <sidney_> usr13, great thanks
[02:32] <sbts-tv> meni: what wireless card?
[02:32] <postgres> test
[02:33] <usr13> Ricklee: If you left free-space on the first part of the primary drive, install there.  Otherwize start over.  But better still, install vbox
[02:33] <colloquialismic> sbts-tv, I am using 10.04 LTS
[02:33] <usr13> !vbox | Ricklee
[02:33] <meni> may be dell wireless 1397 WLAN mini-lan?
[02:33] <Gskellig> this cafe i'm in actually blocks ssh traffic
[02:33] <Gskellig> why the hell would you do that
[02:34] <sbts-tv> Ricklee: as far as I know, you need to install xp first, then win7 then ubuntu, as xp trashes everthing else and win7 trashes the bootloader, while ubuntu gets it right. there are of course "difficult" methods that can be used to do it other ways, but not any I would recommend
[02:34] <usr13> !dual-boot | Ricklee
[02:34] <Ricklee> You guys think its better to use virtual box rather then use install the OS on my Hdd?
[02:34] <Gskellig> Ricklee, honestly it depends on what you want to do with it
[02:34] <usr13> Gskellig: Ask the sysadmin, (not us).
[02:34] <Ibis> Ricklee: Depends on your intentions.
[02:34] <Gskellig> just bitching
[02:34] <Gskellig> i dont think this cafe has a sysadmin
[02:34] <Gskellig> lol
[02:34] <meni> ?
[02:34] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: ok, click on the network icon, and tell me if your wireless network is listed there
[02:35] <webnet> JOIN #ubuntu
[02:35] <usr13> Gskellig: I doubt seriously that any hotspot would allow ssh
[02:35] <Ricklee> I can't get league of legends to run on ubuntu so I guess I would use it fir that
[02:35] <Gskellig> =\ all the other cafes in this area have
[02:35] <colloquialismic> sbts-tv, Yup
[02:35] <usr13> Gskellig: Every network has a sysadmin
[02:35] <sbts-tv> meni: that isn't really any help. please wait a few minutes and I will try and help you
[02:35] <Gskellig> well then their sysadmin was the guy from qwest who came and setup their network like 3 years ago
[02:36] <sbts-tv> Ricklee: absolutely
[02:36] <meni> sure tyvm
[02:36] <Guest23855> hi, does anyone know how to disable the visualizations in the Totem browser plugin in firefox? running Ubuntu 11.10, and I'm a bit of a noob
[02:36] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: is it showing as connected, or just available?
[02:37] <colloquialismic> sbts-tv, available
[02:37] <Ricklee> So virtual box would be the best choice to run league of legends? Or if you guys know a way to run it on ubuntu?
[02:37] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: is your wireless net configured for some level of wep or wpa encription?
[02:38] <brightspark> meni: is it possible to get a wired connection to the internet on the machine missing the wireless driver?  That would be the simplest way to get it working.
[02:38] <Gskellig> Ricklee, have you tried wine/playonlinux
[02:38] <Ricklee> Yea it didn't work
[02:38] <happygolucky> Guest23855: Edit>Preferences>Display untick the show visualizations when audio file is played radio button
[02:38] <Ibis> usr13: That's kinda stupid... Windows don't use SSH as far as I know.     And generally, linux SSH is secured well.  You would have to be stupid to have your system hacked up, unless theres a security hole I'm missing.
[02:38] <intensdown_> hi. anyone here knows about message queues and threads in C?
[02:39] <meni> not directly,i can connect this computer to another computer that has internet (with LAN) ?
[02:39] <colloquialismic> sbts-tv, uh.... maybe thats the issue
[02:39] <sbts-tv> intensdown_: try #C
[02:39] <intensdown_> but i need an invite
[02:39] <meni> or i can download from windows and copy to usb?
[02:39] <Guest23855> happygolucky: is that for the broser plugin or the app itself? I don't see any prefs for the plugin
[02:39] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: I would start off by removing all encription on the network if you can. then test to make sure you can connect.
[02:40] <Ibis> usr13: In fact, desktop versions of ubuntu probably doesn't ship out with ssh connectablity (That's ubuntu server, I'm sure this is true, I was mad I couldn't connect to my desktop until I installed something to do with SSH).
[02:40] <webnet> REGISTER
[02:40] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: once you can connect readd WPA2 encription.
[02:40] <happygolucky> Guest23855: the app, i'm sorry.
[02:40] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: be warned earlier versions of the wireless stack did have issues with WPA.
[02:40] <Guest23855> np
[02:40] <brightspark> meni: you will need to determine the package you need.  Do you know the name of the package  containing the drivers you are missing?
[02:41] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: also make sure you use WPA and not WEP. WEP is very easy to crack
[02:41] <Guest23855> maybe I'll try uninstalling the plugin and see if there are settings available at install
[02:41] <meni> :S
[02:41] <webnet> register athlonx2  jlgriffin@webnetvn.com
[02:42] <meni> i guess not ,how i can check that?
[02:42] <arooni-mobile> how do i check the mail for that user
[02:43] <sbts-tv> colloquialismic: iirc there were also issues with some devices that could operate in "WPA/WPA2" mode. you should always use either "WPA" or "WPA2" with wpa2 being the preference
[02:43] <meni> brightspark- how i can check which package i need?
[02:44] <sbts-tv> meni: please run "lspci" and look for entries showing something like "wireless" or "802.11" and finally "network"
[02:44] <Elw3> where do i permanently disable swap use ?
[02:44] <sbts-tv> Elw3: why would you want to disable swap?
[02:44] <brightspark> meni: See if there is a menu option under System- something like Additional Drivers or Hardware Drivers.  That ought to have information on which you can install.
[02:45] <Elw3> sbts-tv: to spin down the hd
[02:46] <meni2> which command you said to run again please:)
[02:46] <brightspark> See if there is a menu option under System- something like Additional Drivers or Hardware Drivers.  That ought to have information on which you can install.
[02:46] <webnet> anyone here have perminent nick? need a little help really quick. PM me :D
[02:47] <sbts-tv> Elw3: if swap is keeping the hdd spun up the disabling it will crash your system, due to lack of memory
[02:47] <meni2> ive got hardware drivers
[02:48] <meni2> that isnt good?:S
[02:48] <sbts-tv> meni: so you are all sorted?
[02:48] <meni2> no:S
[02:49] <brightspark> meni2: your original post stated you were missing drivers- please clarify
[02:49] <meni2> im assuming, because ive just install ubuntu on usb and try to connect from wireless
[02:49] <meni2> and its disable
[02:50] <Ricklee> Any comparability issues with 11.10 64 bit?
[02:50] <meni2> maybe that? broadcom b43 wireless driver and broadcom STA wireless driver?
[02:50] <Elw3> sbts-tv: is this a "why" or a "how" channel, i know what im doing, i alredy have swapoff and hdparm in rc.local , i just wonder if there is a more professional way to keep the hd sillent as the rc.local solution
[02:51] <meni2> or that ? : broadcom corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g ?
[02:51] <meni2> (rev 01) *
[02:52] <sbts-tv> Elw3: well the obvious solution to me if you *really* don't want swap, would be to either delete the swap partition or change its partition type to something else
[02:52] <brightspark> meni2: I am confused now as to your problem.  Can you please describe exactly what you are finding that is unexpected?  Are you missing the network icon?  Is the wireless option greyed out?
[02:53] <meni2> greyed
[02:53] <meni2> with red "!"
[02:53] <sbts-tv> Elw3: but having said that, swap should only wake up the drive when swap is needed, and never at any other time. linux is very good at managing memory, so if you have enough ram, swap won't touch the drive
[02:53] <wspardaw> hi people
[02:53] <wspardaw> how you all doing
[02:54] <sidney_> Will someone please take a look @ my repository source and tell me if anything is wrong  http://paste.ubuntu.com/765563/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/765565/
[02:54] <brightspark> meni2: does it give you a description of why there is an exclamation point there?  Maybe you must hover the mouse over it or something?
[02:54] <meni2> disconnected?
[02:54] <meni2> both btw
[02:55] <indystorm> hey any hot bitchez in here?
[02:55] <Tech-1> shaddap!
[02:55] <Elw3> sbts-tv: then i play a bit with hpparm to adjust the times i guess... i had just juse the -y option
[02:55] <brightspark> meni2: That explains the grey option but not the exclamation point.
[02:56] <wspardaw> hi people
[02:56] <brightspark> indystorm: go to #defocus for that
[02:56] <meni2> i dont have alot knowledge in ubuntu:S please ask whatever needed
[02:56] <Elw3> later then
[02:56] <sbts-tv> Elw3: there are a number of things that can keep the drive awake. especially a number of daemons that run and access the disk.
[02:57] <wspardaw> I found a "bug" that i believe should be set to whislist because is a feature request
[02:57] <wspardaw> any body?
[02:57] <szal> wspardaw: bugs go in Launchpad, not much use coming to IRC w/ that
[02:57] <Scorpio> hi there! I'm looking for a lightweight alternative to ubuntu with access to the ubuntu repos. I've tried lubuntu and its great and all but the file manager is too limiting imho. Any solutions? maybe a better file manager or a different flavor all together ?
[02:58] <FerchoLP> I use xubuntu and I think it's great
[02:58] <brightspark> meni2, I am using an older version, so I can't walk you through the menus.  My best guess is that you are missing a proprietary driver.  I would suggest you determine which driver you need, use Synaptic to get the package on another machine and copy it over via usb.  Someone with the new version will be better positioned to help you.
[02:58] <wspardaw> i cant change it to whishlist
[02:59] <meni2> that maybe those : ?
[02:59] <meni2> maybe that? broadcom b43 wireless driver and broadcom STA wireless driver OR  broadcom corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
[02:59] <Scorpio> FerchoLP: heard it has lost its lightness so to speak. That true ?
[02:59] <wspardaw> big number #902235
[03:00] <FerchoLP> Scorpio I really coudn't say because I'm using it since a few months ago. BUT it is really lighter than Ubuntu/Kubuntu, specially if you don't install kde-libs
[03:00] <brightspark> meni2, I do not know enough about the new version of ubuntu to properly help you determine the cause of the problem.  You may find someone more up-to-date if you hang around in the channel for a while.
[03:01] <meni2> k ty for help:)
[03:01] <brightspark> meni2, good luck.
[03:01] <FerchoLP> I've used Xubuntu with KDE stuff like Yakuake, Kate etc. Now I made a freshh install without those nor any packge dependant on kde, and I think it run smoother
[03:02] <meni2> anybody may help?:)
[03:02] <Scorpio> FerchoLP, i'm running wm so i'll give it a shot. any idea if its any good as a server edition ?
[03:02] <Scorpio> FerchoLP: vm* sorry - its late
[03:03] <jonpavelich> Hello
[03:03] <meni2> that may be good ? http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[03:04] <FerchoLP> well, it's essentially ubuntu. I use ubuntu server (no-gui) in some vms and works fine
[03:05] <meni2> anyone may help ?^_^
[03:05] <Queops> Hey guys. First time i got USB headphones, mine are the HP premium digital headset HUD-02, any tips on how to make them work? :\
[03:06] <Scorpio> FerchoLP: I'm using VM for ruby on rails dev. I've used dual boot but got fed up pretty fast. Its not a beast but 2.8x2 can barely hold the freakin gnome
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> Queops, you're still in Unity channel
[03:07] <Jeremy3D> :D
[03:07] <Queops> Jeremy3D, hell no!
[03:07] <Queops> :D
[03:08] <Jeremy3D> haha
[03:08] <FerchoLP> well, I have a few xubuntus running on vms and runs ok. It gets my CPU really hot though
[03:09] <FerchoLP> but I have a c2d 1.6, so you will be fine
[03:10] <Scorpio> FerchoLP: thanks for the tip. installing right now
[03:10] <FerchoLP> :)
[03:11] <meni2> ?
[03:11] <Vustom> I have a USB with 2 partitions, I need to write 1 .img file to one partition, and 1 .iso file to the other, how do I go about doing this on Ubuntu? (I've already made the partitions)
[03:12] <Scorpio> FerchoLP: good thing about opensource. can just download and install. as many versions as you like. Try doing that with XP, win 7 and so on. either clostly or well.. bad.
[03:13] <meni2> ?
[03:13] <FerchoLP> yep. I even have always in my backpack a live Xubuntu on a pendrive just in case
[03:13] <webnet> ill b bak on l8r g2g now tho
[03:14] <meni2> anyone can help please?:)
[03:14] <ubuntu_> rullz.lv
[03:14] <Scorpio> FerchoLP: i use a smaller distro but yeah. just in case the "party music machine" crashes
[03:15] <poyntz> please help me sort this out:
[03:15] <poyntz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/902410
[03:15] <poyntz> - audio on mute and I can't unmute it.. or something similar
[03:15] <Elw3> talking about pendrives, i just got the error : no place for mbr found while trying grub install on a pentdrive.. what now ?
[03:15] <wspardaw> hello
[03:16] <wspardaw> can somebody triage a bug for me
[03:16] <wspardaw> >?
[03:16] <wspardaw> set it as whislist
[03:17] <Vustom> I have a USB with 2 partitions, I need to write 1 .img file to one partition, and 1 .iso file to the other, how do I go about doing this on Ubuntu? Can anyone help me..?
[03:17] <OerHeks> wspardaw, i think we can't , launchpad does.
[03:17] <Scorpio> Elw3: not a linux expert by far. sorry m8
[03:18] <wspardaw> thats what it says on the how to triage manual
[03:18] <wspardaw> on ubuntu
[03:19] <wspardaw> so i believe nobody in here can help me?
[03:19] <trism> wspardaw: perhaps ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[03:19] <wspardaw> thanks
[03:21] <OerHeks> Vustom, here is a howto to install a iso on your ext hdd > http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/23/install-ubuntu-11-04-on-external-hard-disk/
[03:22] <Jordan_U> Vustom: What is your end goal?
[03:22] <Vustom> OerHeks: Does that say how to put two ISOs on two seperate partitions on one USB?
[03:22] <OerHeks> Vustom, make sure, your bios can be set boot from ext hdd
[03:22] <Vustom> 2 partitions (done), I need to write 1 .ISO to one of the partitions, and then a .IMG to the other
[03:23] <Sicrus> need help on a cpp program, paying
[03:23] <Elw3> Vustom, unetbootin shout be able to
[03:23] <Vustom> I tried UNetBootin but when I select the .img to write it doesn't do it and goes straight to installing the boot loader :/
[03:24] <Vustom> I tried renaming the .img to .iso too, no luck
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Vustom: Please explain your end goal.
[03:24] <threezero> can someone help me get dropbox running on my ubuntu?:(
[03:24] <Vustom> Jordan_U: I told you, I have a .IMG and a .ISO, they need to be on a separate partition on the same USB storage device
[03:24] <Elw3> an image file , should be installed with dd if i remember correckt
[03:25] <Jordan_U> Vustom: I assume you want two Live distros on your USB drive at once?
[03:25] <Vustom> One is a distro, the other is a boot loader
[03:26] <Jordan_U> Vustom: What you've described so far is a step, not an end goal. What distro and what bootloader?
[03:27] <poyntz> please help me sort out my audia
[03:27] <poyntz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/902410
[03:27] <meni2> may i have help please?:)
[03:28] <Elw3> Vustom, where is that image from ? there should be how to for that
[03:28] <Jordan_U> !patience | meni2
[03:29] <meni2> k ty
[03:29] <almoxarife> poyntz: you are wanting the hdmi sound I assume?
[03:29] <Elw3> meni2, what was the question again ?
[03:30] <meni2> ive just installed ubuntu on usb, and i cant use wireless
[03:30] <meni2> its greyed with red "!" on it
[03:30] <threezero> search everywhere seems like there is no solution for ARM build dropbox?
[03:31] <ubuntu_n00b> hi, i have a problem with clock drift
[03:31] <Elw3> meni2, had this wireless worked before on other ubuntu versions ?
[03:31] <ubuntu_n00b> can anyone help me?=
[03:31] <meni2> that my first:S
[03:32] <Tech-1> ubuntu_n00b:  explain the problem, someone may respond
[03:32] <ubuntu_n00b> here's a link that might fix my problem, but i have to install a package and i want to make sure that it's the correct one
[03:32] <ubuntu_n00b> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/admin/adjtimex
[03:32] <jmc93739653> Have you tried the Dropbox web interface?
[03:32] <meni2> i enter to hardware drivers in system-> administration and got there : Broadcom STA wireless driver that may be connected?
[03:33] <ubuntu_n00b> basically, the clock is correct when my computer starts
[03:33] <ubuntu_n00b> but it drifts forward quite quickly
[03:33] <threezero> i want a syncing option
[03:33] <ubuntu_n00b> it's already 20 min off
[03:33] <threezero> i'm sure the web interfence would work
[03:33] <Elw3> meni2,  using kde or gnome ?
[03:33] <threezero> almost pull my hair out trying to figure it out
[03:33] <SwedeMike> ubuntu_n00b: look into "ntpd"
[03:33] <meni2> GNOME as i see
[03:34] <jmc93739653> ntpdate and a cron script can correct time drif, if run regularly.
[03:34] <ubuntu_n00b> http://www.starling-software.com/en/blog/sysadmin/2010/04/04.making-ntp-work-on-hardware-with-large-clock-drift.html
[03:34] <pfifo> http://imagebin.org/187882
[03:34] <SwedeMike> jmc93739653: ntpd is better, it continously makes sure it's correct, ntpdate will make the clock jump meaning you might miss (or run twice) cron events etc
[03:34] <Elw3> meni2,  when right klick on network thingie does it show a enable wireless box ?
[03:35] <meni2> that enabled
[03:35] <mrdeb> hi
[03:35] <jmc93739653> SwedeMike, thanks for the knowledge drop /me doffs cap.
[03:35] <SwedeMike> jmc93739653: well, that article probably knows better than anyone in here.
[03:35] <mrdeb> what article
[03:36] <threezero> also having problem with java plugin
[03:36] <SwedeMike> jmc93739653: oh, sorry.
[03:36] <Elw3> meni2, just wantet to know if the applet have found your card by that ^^
[03:36] <SwedeMike> ubuntu_n00b: that article is probably right.
[03:36] <ubuntu_n00b> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/lucid/admin/adjtimex check out that package
[03:36] <threezero> i need to access a stocks website and usually on windows it will pop up a window telling u to install a signed plugin
[03:36] <threezero> that window won't come in up ubuntu
[03:36] <ubuntu_n00b> since i have an amd processor, should i download the amd64 package?
[03:36] <meni2> i realy dont know anything from the problem just try follow up from here ^_^
[03:37] <mrdeb> ubuntu_n00b: yes u cna but you dont have to. but it will be faster
[03:37] <xangua> threezero: because is a windows plugin¿
[03:37] <poyntz> almoxarife: just some sound. i've tried setting the primary driver to both my speakers and my internal audio. i get nothing
[03:37] <threezero> its java based
[03:37] <xangua> ubuntu_n00b: is it 64bit¿
[03:37] <threezero> i have got it working on mac before
[03:37] <ubuntu_n00b> no 32
[03:37] <ubuntu_n00b> that's why i'm confused..
[03:38] <Arm0ur> ubuntu_n00b amd64 packages are for 64-bit installations
[03:38] <mrdeb> what cpu is it
[03:38] <xangua> ubuntu_n00b: then go for 32bit
[03:38] <jmc93739653> I use 2.north-america.pool.ntp.org (i hope i have that right)
[03:38] <ubuntu_n00b> i don't see the option on that page..
[03:38] <mrdeb> what amd is it
[03:38] <xangua> threezero: there is a post on webupd8 that tells you how to install both java6 and java7, since oracle java is no longer on ubuntu repository
[03:38] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:39] <threezero> thank you
[03:39] <threezero> oh no i'm running 11.04 =\
[03:39] <threezero> i can't update
[03:39] <Elw3> meni2, im lacking myself a wireless device to guide you trough this ...
[03:39] <almoxarife> poyntz: you tried doing this thru the gui or did you go all script-warrior on it?
[03:39] <Arm0ur> ubuntu_n00b: the i386 package will be fine if you are using a 32 bit OS
[03:39] <poyntz> almoxarife: just tried alsamixer
[03:39] <meni2> k ty :/
[03:40] <ubuntu_n00b> AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
[03:40] <meni2>  !patience | meni2
[03:40] <mrdeb> ubuntu_n00b: that will work with 64 bit so get that one, its faster
[03:40] <almoxarife> poyntz: what version of ubuntu? btw, alsamixer is not the default setup for sound in ubuntu
[03:41] <M41nFr4m3> hi im on 10.04 and when i try to connec to my wifi i see the two green dots and the blue thing goin and the wep key keyring keeps showing up i was connected to my router just fine yesterday i am currently on the SAME router, only on windows. which connects just fine
[03:41] <M41nFr4m3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765585/
[03:41] <ubuntu_n00b> how can i use a package manager to install?
[03:42] <mrdeb> you go to software center or u can use terminal which is easy
[03:42] <ubuntu_n00b> is there any way to install that package through the app center? (or whatever it's called in ubuntu)
[03:42] <mrdeb> yes soft center
[03:42] <Arm0ur> ubuntu_n00b: Open a terminal. sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb
[03:42] <mrdeb> no
[03:42] <mrdeb> you do sudo apt-get install
[03:43] <poyntz> almoxarife: i'm using kubuntu oneriic
[03:43] <poyntz> oneiric
[03:43] <Arm0ur> mrdeb: I guess ubuntu_n00b downloaded the package ?
[03:43] <ubuntu_n00b> not yet, i haven't
[03:43] <mrdeb> no he needs 64bit
[03:43] <mrdeb> he is just asking how to do it later
[03:44] <ubuntu_n00b> why do i need 64 bit?
[03:44] <mrdeb> bec it is faster
[03:44] <mrdeb> u dont need it, but everything works with it now
[03:45] <ubuntu_n00b> so if i download the package and then run the apt-get install command, will the package automatically install?
[03:45] <mrdeb> no u dont need to dl packages
[03:45] <mrdeb> u go into software center and find programs then install it. but u could dl the deb and install it also
[03:46] <ubuntu_n00b> i'd rather install this through the terminal
[03:46] <ubuntu_n00b> the software center runs slowly
[03:46] <mrdeb> ok so terminal u do sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:46] <mrdeb> same thing
[03:46] <poyntz> my internal audio keeps getting set to mute
[03:46] <poyntz> and i can't unmute it
[03:46] <poyntz> please help
[03:47] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm sorry, i don't understand. i already have firefox installed
[03:47] <mrdeb> y not
[03:47] <poyntz> - when i try to click unmute nothing happens
[03:47] <mrdeb> it can be anything, firefox is only example
[03:47] <mrdeb> ok
[03:47] <M41nFr4m3> hi im on 10.04 and when i try to connec to my wifi i see the two green dots and the blue thing goin and the wep key keyring keeps showing up i was connected to my router just fine yesterday i am currently on the SAME router, only on windows. which connects just fine
[03:47] <M41nFr4m3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765585/
[03:47] <ubuntu_n00b> oh, how can i find the name of the package?
[03:47] <mrdeb> is the sound card installed
[03:47] <mrdeb> online
[03:47] <mrdeb> or seach apt
[03:47] <mrdeb> idk how though
[03:48] <ubuntu_n00b> do i have to include the version?
[03:48] <almoxarife> poyntz: I am not sure what the gui looks like for sound config on kubuntu, this much should hold true, seems like you got two pieces of sound 'hardware' one analog the other digital-hdmi, the analog should be simple, the hdmi has multiple options (profiles), one of those will provide you with sound via hdmi cable
[03:48] <ubuntu_n00b> or just adjtimex
[03:48] <mrdeb> ubuntu_n00b: no it will install newest
[03:49] <ubuntu_n00b> thanks!
[03:49] <ubuntu_n00b> it's installing
[03:49] <M41nFr4m3> now can I get some support?
[03:50] <poyntz> almoxarife: correct. i just discovered that pulseaudio jacked the soundsystem. it wasn't alsa
[03:50] <mrdeb> ok good luck
[03:50] <poyntz> almoxarife: or mabye i just set it as thus by accident
[03:50] <poyntz> poyntz: either way, now if i 'test' sound i get the kubuntu sound
[03:50] <poyntz> however, still no sound for any applications
[03:50] <almoxarife> poyntz: pulse jacked the sound on ubuntu since the cows left the barn, good luck getting all alsa pure with it
[03:51] <poyntz> almoxarife: haha
[03:51] <M41nFr4m3> hi im on 10.04 and when i try to connec to my wifi i see the two green dots and the blue thing goin and the wep key keyring keeps showing up i was connected to my router just fine yesterday i am currently on the SAME router, on windows. which connects just fine
[03:51] <M41nFr4m3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765585/
[03:52] <N1Nja_> If anyone would im making a channel for amd products support room #Advanced|Micro|Devices
[03:52] <poyntz> almoxarife: so how do i make it work for applications?
[03:52] <almoxarife> poyntz: I have both hdmi and analog sound being catered by pulse on my home entertainment system, it works just fine, the old days of pulse sucking or breaking are over
[03:52] <poyntz> pulseaudio
[03:52] <M41nFr4m3> pssh
[03:52] <poyntz> almoxarife: ah cool :)
[03:52] <M41nFr4m3> so much for a support channel
[03:53] <poyntz> how did you get applications to defaul to it. do i just log out and log back in?
[03:53] <almoxarife> poyntz: it would be there as your default sound if you indeed are running kubuntu virgin
[03:54] <iluminator105> what command in terminal brings up desktop sharing preferences
[03:55] <poyntz> almoxarife: at the moment it's not
[03:56] <poyntz> i'll try logging out and logging back in
[03:56] <garage> first time on irc. I'm running ubuntu 10.04. why does livecd not start when i put it in cdrom?
[03:57] <garage> it starts when in windows?
[03:57] <pfifo> garage, check you bios, you may need to change the boot order
[03:57]  * rhun Hi :)
[03:57] <garage> I have made boot order CDROM first, but it never does it.
[03:57] <pfifo> garage, the CD may be bad then
[03:58] <garage> abit bp6 (old)
[03:58] <webnet> garage, hmm how did you burn the cdrom?
[03:58] <garage> download iso, but as image to cdrom
[03:58] <garage> have burnt image twice.
[03:58] <webnet> garage,  what software did you burn with?
[03:59] <garage> I have done this for xubuntu, lubuntu, elive. Its gotta be bios issue
[03:59] <garage> webnet: imgburn
[03:59] <FerchoLP> how can I read the "battery health" value?
[03:59] <pfifo> garage, does your system use UEFI?
[03:59] <FerchoLP> or where
[04:00] <FerchoLP> using xfce, not kde
[04:00] <garage> sorry, not sure about uefi. don't know what it is.
[04:00] <pfifo> garage, well ask google and find out if your using it
[04:00] <webnet> garage, ok good. i was gonna say. the first thought i had was that you were burning and it wasnt an iso burner so it wasnt burning the disc as bootable
[04:00] <toasty95> what room is 12.10
[04:01] <ubuntu_n00b> hi, me again
[04:01] <Jordan_U> garage: Has any CD booted on this machine?
[04:01] <ubuntu_n00b> for some reason the edit command isn't working
[04:01] <szal> toasty95: #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <webnet> toasty95 i dont think there is one since the newest alpha release is only 12.04 precise
[04:01] <ubuntu_n00b> for instance, i need to change the default os that grub2 boots into
[04:01] <OerHeks> garage some bios needs boot-order on usb + hdd priority on usb
[04:02] <garage> Jordan_u: no
[04:02] <ubuntu_n00b> so i want to edit one of the cfg files
[04:02] <toasty95> thanks
[04:02] <webnet> toasty95, is there one?
[04:02] <garage> Jordan_U: was going to try microsoft, but didn't yet.
[04:02] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm using the command sudo edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:02] <ubuntu_n00b> but the terminal returns Warning: unknown mime-type for "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" -- using "application/octet-stream"
[04:02] <ubuntu_n00b> Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/octet-stream"
[04:02] <ubuntu_n00b> matt@n1:~$
[04:02] <szal> toasty95: and it's 12.04, 12.10 doesn't exist yet
[04:03] <Arm0ur> ubuntu_n00b try "nano" instead of edit
[04:03] <garage> perhaps a bios upgrade?
[04:03] <ubuntu_n00b> what's the difference?
[04:03] <webnet> toasty95, yeah it is #ubuntu+1 but its only precise there is no 12.10 yet
[04:03] <toasty95> typo
[04:03] <ubuntu_n00b> this is the second time that i've tried the edit command today and it didn't work
[04:03] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, or use vi [filename]
[04:03] <Arm0ur> ubuntu_n00b: There is no program called edit in GNU/Linux. Atleast none that I know of
[04:03] <webnet> i prefer vim-nox personally
[04:04] <Arm0ur> Yes. vim anyday !
[04:04] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, thats because ubuntu doesnt have an edit command
[04:04] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, you have to use an editor like vim or nano
[04:04] <OerHeks> gedit is installed standard.
[04:04] <ubuntu_n00b> i see. thanks. so the command would be sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[04:04] <webnet> Arm0ur, :D love vim
[04:04] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, yes
[04:05] <ubuntu_n00b> is teh vim already installed?
[04:05] <webnet> to change things you have to press i to begin inserrt
[04:05] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_n00b: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:05] <garage> OerHeks: I did not see usb as an option to boot from in bios.
[04:05] <robin0800> webnet: you are no supposed to edit that file
[04:05] <webnet> oh ubuntu_n00b it may not be
[04:05] <webnet> robin0800, ?
[04:05] <ubuntu_n00b> if i use the sudo apt-get install vim will it work?
[04:06] <OerHeks> garage, sorry, cd ofcourse
[04:06] <ubuntu_n00b> is that what the package is called?
[04:06] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, its sudo apt-get install vim-nox
[04:06] <ubuntu_n00b> ty
[04:06] <webnet> np
[04:06] <ubuntu_n00b> hmmm
[04:06] <robin0800> webnet: the file to edit is etc/default/grub
[04:06] <ubuntu_n00b> that is a large editor
[04:06] <Arm0ur> ubuntu_n00b: Since you haven't used vi/vim before, it might not be suited for the quick editing that you want to do
[04:06] <ubuntu_n00b> 36mb?
[04:07] <almoxarife> webnet: grub changes done via editing /etc/default/grub.conf and then with an update via sudo update-grub
[04:07] <ubuntu_n00b> ok, i'll stick to gedit
[04:07] <garage> OerHeks: I have made boot order cdrom first, but it just goes right passed it into grub (existing ubuntu). It will try and read from floppy if i set 'A' as the first device to boot from.
[04:07] <webnet> robin0800, oh i didnt even know what he was editing i was just letting him know to use vi or nano instead of 'edit' since edit isnt a command in ubuntu
[04:08] <webnet> almoxarife, im not the one editing anything. i just told him to use an editor.
[04:08] <garage> OerHeks: I thought maybe there was something about the CD's, like they weren't meant to be booted from, just started while running windows because that is the only way they have started so far.
[04:08] <milamber> is anyone managing a large ubuntu installation? ie anyone using landscape or gotten spacewalk to play nice?
[04:09] <robin0800> webnet: if you edit the config file any update to grub system will wipe it out and the editor is gedit
[04:09] <w30> ubuntu_n00b, try nano; you probably have that editor
[04:09] <mrdeb>  huh
[04:09] <webnet> robin0800, almoxarife i was just telling him ti use an editor like vim-nox or nano  for ANY command line file editing. i have no clue what hes even editing.
[04:09] <szal> !anyone | milamber
[04:09] <mrdeb> ubuntu has nano and gedit
[04:09] <almoxarife> webnet: grub changes done via editing /etc/default/grub and then with an update via sudo update-grub <---clue
[04:10] <w30> ubuntu_n00b, nano uses the backspace key for delete like the real world does.
[04:10] <webnet> almoxarife, did you not get my last msg. i didnt even know he was editing grub?! i just got on and didnt see what they were talking about. i didnt tell him to use anything
[04:11] <webnet> other than a command line text editor
[04:12] <w30> ubuntu_n00b, vi and ed and vim are very fast editors after you spend two memorizing commands and shortcuts
[04:12] <w30> two years
[04:12] <webnet> almoxarife, robin0800 tell ubuntu_n00b what you told me instead so he doesnt screw his system up
[04:13] <milamber> is there any software available for managing large ubuntu installations?
[04:13] <webnet> almoxarife, robin0800 im not actually editing anything
[04:13] <webnet> w30 yeah it took me about 6 months to figure out my way around it at first :D
[04:13] <almoxarife> ubuntu_n00b: don't edit grub anywhere but in /etc/default/grub
[04:15] <Snowie> howdy all. Been getting into using ubuntu 11.10 as a home DAW. i see that there is a studio version of ubuntu. if i have the default installed, is there a simple method of installing/replacing packages for the studio version for better real time and memory locks etc? or am i replacing a kernel?
[04:15] <Snowie> cheers
[04:15] <almoxarife> webnet: you were right, I was wrong, sorry
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> almoxarife: thanks, i figured that out
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> but the file is set as read only
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> and i can't change the permissions?
[04:16] <webnet> almoxarife, huh? sorry i was pm ing what happened?
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> oh wait
[04:16] <mrdeb> yes u can
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> i gotta us sudo probably ;)
[04:16] <Snowie> ubuntu_n00b: sudo chmod +w 'filename'
[04:17] <mrdeb> yes
[04:17] <fizyplankton> why are my SSH connections dying with more than a few hundred bytes of data if im on anything other than lan? if i know a command im doing has more than a hundred or so chars of output, i have to pipe it into a python program i wrote to output one line every 1/4 seconds, or make the display size so small that only ~~100 characters will display. otherwise, the connections just dies. the exception is if im on lan, or if it 
[04:17] <brucepaycheck> is there very many lubuntu users in here??
[04:17] <almoxarife> ubuntu_n00b: why are you changing grub? btw, it is read only unless you have admin permission, and I am not sure you are ready for that
[04:17] <Snowie> brucepaycheck: I have used it before
[04:17] <sam22> hail people of this channel !!
[04:17] <sam22> o/
[04:18] <Snowie> ubuntu_n00b: oh, sorry, scratch that, i will stay away from help with GRUB
[04:18] <brucepaycheck> i was just wondering if there were very many people who use lubuntu that frequent the ubuntu chans and whatnot
[04:18] <almoxarife> Snowie: great, now he's got way too much info
[04:18] <ubuntu_n00b> oh shhhh
[04:18] <ubuntu_n00b> i've messed around with grub before
[04:19] <Snowie> brucepaycheck: i used it as a media server on an ancient laptop for a while (as in still had old floppy drives and IR ports) and it worked great. wouldnt use it as everyday desktop unless forced though
[04:19] <ubuntu_n00b> it's default loading to memtest
[04:19] <Snowie> brucepaycheck: which gui do you have
[04:19] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm running dual boot XP and ubuntu
[04:19] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, vim lets you write in sudo mode. you add a !w command and it overwrites
[04:19] <ubuntu_n00b> i wasn't using sudo, and that was the problem.
[04:20] <ubuntu_n00b> the file is read only for anyone but the main admin, or something
[04:20] <webnet> ubuntu_n00b, oh gotcha
[04:20] <almoxarife> ubuntu_n00b: do you know why it defaults to memtest?
[04:20] <ubuntu_n00b> well, it started doing that after i upgraded
[04:20] <Snowie> so anyone help me with my ubuntu studio question, kernel rebuild or just different packages?
[04:20] <ubuntu_n00b> it added another boot option, 'previous linux versions;
[04:20] <brucepaycheck> Snowie lxde, it's the 10.10 version.  Just bought one of those 2007ish Everex computers and installed this to it to play around with while i up'd some of the hardware..  thinking about staying with it, i kinda like it..
[04:20] <brucepaycheck> have used it in a while.. didn't realize it had become this nice
[04:20] <FerchoLP> why why, why would someone who is using ubuntu would prefer vi instead of, say, nano
[04:21] <ubuntu_n00b> so then it bumped the memtest to pos 4
[04:21] <FerchoLP> :P
[04:21] <ubuntu_n00b> where XP was previously
[04:21] <ubuntu_n00b> all better now
[04:21] <webnet> brucepaycheck, everex? i worked on an everex machine the other day and i was like everex? are they any good/
[04:21] <Snowie> brucepaycheck: i was impressed by lx desktop. im a unity whore now though. really feel like it fits the way i like to work better than any other
[04:22] <fizyplankton> why are my SSH connections dying with more than a few hundred bytes of data if im on anything other than lan? if i know a command im doing has more than a hundred or so chars of output, i have to pipe it into a python program i wrote to output one line every 1/4 seconds, or make the display size so small that only ~~100 characters will display. otherwise, the connections just dies. the exception is if im on lan, or if it 
[04:22] <webnet> Snowie, im glad you like it :D thats what i love about linux vs windows/mac SO MANY CHOISES! :D im a gnome man only
[04:23] <brucepaycheck> webnet, it's very minimal, actually had pcLInuxOS oem on it, from factory, no joke..  i've up'd ram and might throw a spare video card in it, but not bad for 20$
[04:23] <webnet> brucepaycheck, $20 from factory? where. id love to get another machine that cheap for my custom test builds
[04:23] <sam22> webnet i like gnome 2.3x
[04:23] <sam22> i hate the unity
[04:24] <brucepaycheck> Snowie, I've yet to give any of the newer gui's an honest shot.  they look real pretty though
[04:24] <Snowie> webnet: yeah, gnome was good. my friends are weirded out by the fact that i have become a 'freetard'. i have a mate who goes through hours of pain to steal cubase every time a new version comes out, and then tells me that i waste too much time configuring free software. he had to learn just as much as i did, just mine is legit
[04:24] <fizyplankton> i hardly ever use any display manager. i stick in one terminal with almighty screen running
[04:24] <brucepaycheck> webnet, nope i scored this on craigslist..  they originally wanted like 75$
[04:24]  * almoxarife has a hybrid , a gno-ku, part gnome-shell part kde, works swell
[04:25] <webnet> sam22, i cant STAND unity. i hate it hate it hate it, and somehow gnome 3's devs managed to mess up a bunch of stuff. i like gnome 2.X
[04:25] <Snowie> brucepaycheck: i run unity in 2d mode, all the usage features, none of the resource hog. works a treat, would recommend it. but work of advice, learn all the shortcuts. im a kb man, so that's great for me
[04:25] <brucepaycheck> webnet, i had only heard of this model running enlightenment OS from factory, was a strange surprise to boot it up and see an older pcLInuxOS..
[04:26] <szal> sam22, webnet: well, Gnome 2 is dead, deal with it or stick w/ 10.04 until it gets dropped
[04:26] <Snowie> brucepaycheck: system key, then type first few letters of application name, hit enter, bam!
[04:26] <fizyplankton> 10.04 FTW!!!
[04:26] <webnet> brucepaycheck, no kidding. wow. lol
[04:26] <pfifo> 8.04 > 10.04
[04:26] <brucepaycheck> Snowie, I think I might try that sometime, I had tried out the Unity operating system on a few machines a year or so ago, hadn't realized 2d was an option, i'll be messing with that a bit, i think
[04:26] <usr13> webnet: What about xfce?
[04:27] <sidney_> how do i uncomment these http://paste.ubuntu.com/765597/
[04:27] <fizyplankton> does natty use gnome 3? if so, you can get me off of 2 when you can pry it from my cold dead hands
[04:28] <usr13> sidney_: Why?  What do you need?
[04:28] <pfifo> sidney_, delet the # and space at the beginning of the lines
[04:28] <sidney_> usr13, system 10.04 will not update
[04:29] <ubuntu_n00b> my download speeds are really slow (1MBit). how can i test to see whether the problem lies in the wireless connection or something else?
[04:29] <usr13> sidney_: Are you sure you need backports?
[04:29] <webnet> szal, yeah im on 10.10 with gnome 2.32 and i love it. i actually cant go past 10.10 on my laptop
[04:29] <usr13> sidney_: The bottom two, yes, but not the top two, backports
[04:29] <sidney_> usr13, I have no idea
[04:29] <n0sq> usr13: looks like it was a video card issue - i'll have to research this some more tomorrow to see how i can set the video card to vesa - for now, i'm up and running with mandriva 2010.2 with the vesa driver
[04:29] <usr13> sidney_: I don't think that's why it won't  update.  Where is the rest of the file?
[04:30] <webnet> usr13 i like xfce as well. gtk themes enables so easily themeable and i almost feel like its the best of gnome kde and fluxbox smashed into one
[04:30] <sam22> webnet how did you install gnome 2 on 11.10 ?
[04:30] <szal> webnet: you better go looking for something that works w/ that thing, 10.10 will be dead in 4 months and a bit
[04:30] <fizyplankton> lucid still has a few years left on it
[04:30] <usr13> webnet: Yes, I believe xfce is every bit as good as gnome2, maybe better.
[04:30] <webnet> szal i know, its the kernel thats the problem. i cant use a kernel past 2.6.35
[04:31] <szal> fizyplankton: 'a few years' is an overstatement..  April 2013 on the desktop, 2 more years on the server (and who uses a GUI on a server ;))
[04:31] <sidney_> usr13, give me the command again and I will get the list
[04:31] <webnet> usr13, agreed. :D i prefer the gnome menu tho thats where i get stuck
[04:31] <webnet> :D
[04:31] <Snowie> have to learn to google. fyi, how to get the ubuntu studio goodness https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[04:31] <usr13> sidney_: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:32] <webnet> usr13, i cant lose my apps | places | System layout
[04:32] <fizyplankton> szal: i use the GUI on my desktop edition once, maybe twice a month. all i need is my one all powerfull screen session
[04:32] <webnet> :D
[04:32] <usr13> sidney_: And sent resulting URL
[04:32] <webnet> sam22, ? im on 10.10
[04:32] <usr13> webnet: /join #xfce
[04:33] <usr13> webnet: You can get xfce to do all the cool stuff gnome2 did
[04:33] <fizyplankton> why are my SSH connections dying with more than a few hundred bytes of data if im on anything other than lan? if i know a command im doing has more than a hundred or so chars of output, i have to pipe it into a python program i wrote to output one line every 1/4 seconds, or make the display size so small that only ~~100 characters will display. otherwise, the connections just dies. the exception is if im on lan, or if it 
[04:34] <pfifo> fizyplankton, how are you running ssh?
[04:34] <fizyplankton> pfifo: what do you mean? like what client am i using remotley?
[04:34] <webnet> sam22, its not quite hard on 11.10 its just risky.
[04:35] <pfifo> fizyplankton, whats the command your running?
[04:35] <sam22> webnet i won't use 11.10 because i hate the new interface
[04:35] <szal> fizyplankton: and 255 characters display per line in IRC..  if you have more text, either keep that in mind or use a client that auto-wraps lines
[04:35] <sam22> if you install classic you add more trash to your ubuntu
[04:35] <webnet> sam22, you want to do it on a fresh install with no custom apps installed for least risk
[04:35] <webnet> oh 11.10 i mean
[04:35] <sam22> i did a server installation of ubuntu 11.04
[04:35] <sam22> now it takes 76MB when i start it
[04:35] <sam22> 0 swap file
[04:36] <webnet> sam22, server is ok, cause it dont have an interface to be all skrewy :D
[04:36] <sidney_> usr13, it's not giving me the list now bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[04:36] <ubuntu_n00b> my download speeds are really slow (1MBit). how can i test to see whether the problem lies in the wireless connection or something else?
[04:36] <sam22> yeah and it takes alot of work and time to build
[04:36] <sam22> torture
[04:36] <usr13> sidney_: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list  #Send resulting URL
[04:37] <ubuntu_n00b> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1707441
[04:37] <usr13> sidney_: sudo apt-get update
[04:38] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i hardly ever use a command for a client. i either use padersync on my droid (which has the aforementioned problems on mobile data and wifi that isnt mine, but it works perfectly on my wifi) or PuTTY (which has the same problems unless its on my network) and i used to "ssh alex@ex.ter.nal.ip -p `non standard port i use`" untill my laptop broke
[04:38] <urlin2u> ubuntu_n00b, you have done a speed test?
[04:38] <webnet> sam22, you can remove gnome 3 and put 2 on without too much trouble. i did it on a vm to see if i could
[04:39] <sidney_> usr13, http://pastebin.com/cYeCQuMU
[04:39] <ubuntu_n00b> urlin2u: yes, it's 1MB on ubuntu vs. 11MB on XP
[04:40] <sam22> webnet it's possible if you have the time
[04:40] <usr13> sidney_: sudo apt-get update
[04:40] <sam22> it took me 2 days of work to get ubuntu server to work
[04:40] <threezero> is a 8gb partition for 11.10 too small?
[04:40] <usr13> Tell us what that does:    sudo apt-get update
[04:41] <sidney_> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/765604/
[04:41] <pfifo> fizyplankton, does the problem happen when you connect with ssh from openssh package.
[04:41] <sam22> what is a good light weight browser with good support?
[04:41] <mrdeb> firefox
[04:41] <sam22> light
[04:41] <sam22> less than 20MB in size
[04:41] <mrdeb> it is only good one
[04:41] <threezero> so is 8gb partition too small?
[04:41] <mrdeb> no
[04:41] <urlin2u> threezero, not for the basic system....unpacks to just less than 3 gigs.
[04:41] <threezero> thinking aboiut dual booting with mc
[04:41] <usr13> sidney_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <threezero> mac
[04:42] <webnet> sam22, aye thats the rub :D
[04:42] <webnet> time
[04:42] <usr13> threezero: Too small for what?
[04:42] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i believe that the ssh server is openssh, but no matter what client i use, what platform i connect from, what command i do or dont use, if i am not connected to my local area network, i get those issues
[04:42] <threezero> still thinking if i should vm ubuntu and dual boot windows
[04:42] <threezero> for all the stuff i would put into it
[04:43] <threezero> cuz i'm not sure if you can access the mac side if dual booting
[04:43] <sam22> you will lose alot of perfromance on VM
[04:43] <sidney_> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/765605/
[04:43] <threezero> well its going perform better than windows?
[04:43] <threezero> windows xp i have on vm
[04:43] <threezero> is like watching snail race
[04:43] <threezero> but i have to use it once in a while
[04:43] <pfifo> fizyplankton, is it only happening with one server or any server you try to connect to (assuming you have another remote machine you can connect to)
[04:43] <threezero> and i have limited space on my mac
[04:44] <usr13> sidney_:  apt-get --fix-missing update
[04:44] <sam22> if windows XP runs slow on VM then ubuntu will be the sme
[04:44] <sam22> same
[04:44] <usr13> sidney_:  sudo apt-get --fix-missing update
[04:44] <threezero> damn
[04:44] <threezero> seriously
[04:44] <threezero> i though ubuntu will be light
[04:44] <threezero> =\
[04:44] <FloodBot1> threezero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <sam22> yeah XP is the lightest microsoft OS
[04:44] <sam22> they use it on netbook
[04:44] <sam22> because it's light and fast
[04:45] <sam22> windows XP takes about 120MB at start up
[04:45] <sidney_> usr13, E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[04:45] <sidney_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:45] <threezero> how about ubuntu?
[04:45] <sam22> while vista or 7 they take at least 1GB
[04:45] <usr13> sidney_:  sudo apt-get --fix-missing update
[04:45] <usr13> sidney_: sudo
[04:45] <sam22> threezero mine right now 76MB at start up
[04:45] <sam22> but i customized it from the beginning
[04:45] <fizyplankton> pfifo: my machine and my broken laptop are the only machines in my house running linux, so i wouldnt know. however, i have run game servers on simmilar ports handeling much larger quantities of data, without any issues. so i dont thing its a networking issue
[04:46] <threezero> how about stock?
[04:46] <sam22> less than 150MB
[04:46] <sam22> depend on what is installed
[04:46] <threezero> damn.. maybe i should just buy a new macbook and triple boot that shit with 750gb
[04:46] <sam22> XP by the way use swap files also but ubuntu will take 0 swap file at start up
[04:46] <threezero> i have 180gb right now on my its so embrassing......
[04:46] <sam22> haha
[04:47] <sam22> alot of space
[04:47] <pfifo> fizyplankton, do you have access to a machine with openssh's client on it?
[04:47] <fizyplankton> threezero: my laptop has a 30 GIG harddrive thirty gigabytes
[04:47] <threezero> !!!!!!!
[04:47] <threezero> thanks flzyplanton: i feel so much better
[04:47] <threezero> lol
[04:48] <fizyplankton> threezero: and it has one twenty eight MEGS of ram
[04:48] <sidney_> usr13, same results
[04:48] <Tech-1> ?
[04:48] <threezero> are you running just linux on it?? how do you live with 30 gig? just my music library took up 24gig
[04:48] <pfifo> i have 2 1gb flashdrives, and thats it :)
[04:48] <Tech-1> 28 megs ?, how does it boot, lol
[04:48] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i can, but it will only be able to connect to wlan
[04:48] <StepNjump2> Did anyone find a way to backup  the compiz settings
[04:48] <AK_> FREE BSD FOREVER... Nah, just kidding
[04:48] <pfifo> fizyplankton, why cant you connect to a remote server?
[04:49] <Tech-1> StepNjump:  in compiz settings there is a check box to do that, cant remember where, but its there
[04:49] <threezero> if i boot into ubuntu with 8gb usb key will that be faster?
[04:49] <Tech-1> the moor eram, the better
[04:49] <Tech-1> ram
[04:49] <fizyplankton> pfifo: i dont know any remote ssh servers. and the clients arent the issue. i have tried 5 different clients on 3 different platforms one 5 or so different networks. the only correllation is lan / no lan
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> not always
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> there will be a point where more ram would be useless (4gb for most people)
[04:51] <aeon-ltd> unused ram is wasted ram (other than 100mb spare to give room and time to write to disk)
[04:51] <pfifo> fizyplankton, wait? your saying first you have an ssh server, and now your saying you dont... which one is it?
[04:51] <ubuntu_n00b> how can i make sure that ubuntu isn't choking my comp with it's power mangagement
[04:52] <ubuntu_n00b> considering the issues i've had with the clock and my oddly slow download speeds
[04:52] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm thinking it's a powermanagement issue
[04:52] <fizyplankton> pfifo: the only server i know of is right in front of me at 74.166.109.199 on port 25560.
[04:52] <nofilicity> how could i install an earlier version of an apt package?
[04:52] <nofilicity> I have /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so.5 but I need /usr/liblibMagickWand.so.4
[04:54] <pfifo> fizyplankton, ok heres what i need you todo with whatever you have available. I need you to connect to a openssh-server using the openssh-client, send enough data to cause a disconnection and then tell me what the return value was of the openssh-client
[04:54] <StepNjump3> how can I activate eth0 from TTY?
[04:56] <fizyplankton> pfifo: check your private messages
[04:57] <excelsior> Question: is there a program for Ubuntu like WinAmp is for Windows?
[04:57] <Tech-1> zmms2
[04:57] <Tech-1> xmms2
[04:57] <share> excelsior: audacious
[04:57] <Tech-1> ya, audacious would be better
[04:58] <MahaVishnu> StepNjump, sudo ifup eth0
[04:58] <Tech-1> make sure you also install audacious xtra plugins
[04:58] <excelsior> I need to amp up my speakers, and the built in amp only goes to 150%, So audacious does that?
[04:58] <BernSamson> whats the difference between Banshee and Audacious?
[04:58] <Tech-1> vlc would do that
[04:59] <MahaVishnu> excelsior, the more you amp it the worse its gonna sound.
[04:59] <skilz> wtf this s bullsh*t
[04:59] <excelsior> Well I just want to be able to watch a movie without earbuds from across the room.
[05:00] <skilz> I done a apt-get upgrade yesterday and now my system runs like dogs ballz, 52% cpu constantly
[05:00] <webnet> !language |skilz
[05:00] <Tech-1> excelsior:  get better amped spkrs
[05:00] <Tech-1> logitech ftw
[05:00] <excelsior> impossible, I have a Dell Laptop
[05:00] <skilz> How can I revert/undo the upgrade?
[05:00] <webnet> excelsior, why does that make it impossible
[05:00] <webnet> ???
[05:00] <skilz> Please don't tell me I have to do each package manually...
[05:01] <Tech-1> and you are using those tiny spkrs to amp up ?, lol, dont do that
[05:01] <skilz> Canonical may have a legal case on it's hands.
[05:01] <almostroot> Hahahahahaha!
[05:01] <Tech-1> hopefully not
[05:01] <Tech-1> they are the good guys
[05:01] <MahaVishnu> skilz, not a chance since you agreed to no warranty or merchantability of fitness when you d/led it. / installed it.
[05:01] <mrdeb> skilz: why
[05:01] <almostroot> skilz: Every read the license?
[05:01] <almostroot> Ever*
[05:02] <excelsior> look, here's the thing, I just want to watch a movie from across the room, and be able to hear the low dynamic sound.
[05:02] <Tech-1> exactly MahaVishnu
[05:02] <skilz> Let's see how well it holds up.
[05:02] <MahaVishnu> pretty good. since they have lawyers probably and your some derp
[05:02] <webnet> skilz, dont do that youll lose and waste a bunch on money
[05:02] <excelsior> lol
[05:02] <Tech-1> lol
[05:02] <skilz> It has put some bad code to affect the performance o our computers.
[05:02] <Tech-1> get a real comp
[05:02] <webnet> skilz, i doubt it has bad code
[05:03] <MahaVishnu> anyone got a real support question lol.
[05:03] <skilz> Why is it only after the upgrade?
[05:03] <skilz> How can I revert?
[05:03] <webnet> new stuff is installed
[05:03] <webnet> you cant really.
[05:03] <MahaVishnu> you can't revert. you gotta do a new install of 10.04 if thats what you wanna do.
[05:03] <Tech-1> virtually every customer ive put ubuntu on, have been flawless, hands up to ubuntu.
[05:03] <skilz> some new version of some software has bugs
[05:03] <MahaVishnu> skilz, but why would you continue to use a product from a company your planning to sue ?
[05:03] <webnet> Tech-1, amen
[05:03] <excelsior> Tech-1: you install lts?
[05:04] <Tech-1> yep
[05:04] <Tech-1> all the time
[05:04] <skilz> my cpu is idling at 40% wtf?
[05:04] <mrdeb> yes
[05:04] <webnet> find out what process is doing iot
[05:04] <webnet> skilz, ^^^
[05:04] <excelsior> I use the rolling releases, and they're buggy. I'm wondering if I should go back to LTS.
[05:04] <mrdeb> that is normal for ubuntu
[05:04] <skilz> this is unacceptable, goes to 100% if I load firefox
[05:04] <excelsior> or lubuntu
[05:04] <Tech-1> youhave something running, check TOP
[05:04] <Tech-1> ntop
[05:04] <skilz> Doesn't look like just 1 process in particular
[05:05] <webnet> skilz, ffx is resource heavy anyways because of all the virus engines and the addons
[05:05] <webnet> use opera if you are looking for lighter good browser
[05:05] <Tech-1> ^
[05:05] <excelsior> chromium is light and good, as far as I can tell
[05:05] <aeon-ltd> wut
[05:05] <Tech-1> that 2
[05:05] <skilz> xchat and xorg both usng around 30% cpu each why???
[05:06] <webnet> what are the main ones using huge cpu besides fffx
[05:06] <MahaVishnu> low end hardware ?
[05:06] <Tech-1> its prolly in your compiz or graphics setup
[05:06] <skilz> Firefox was fine before this upgrade
[05:06] <webnet> wel xorg is gnome's server
[05:06] <mrdeb> r u on unity
[05:06] <skilz> G40 Thinkpad
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> skilz: what cpu?
[05:06] <mrdeb> is that it
[05:06] <skilz> P4 cpu
[05:06] <mrdeb> p4 is slow
[05:06] <MahaVishnu> skilz, p4 is slow...
[05:06] <BernSamson> I use Chromium
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> nope
[05:06] <skilz> fluxbox
[05:06] <Tech-1> lol, p4
[05:06] <Tech-1> dino
[05:06] <BernSamson> how do you uninstall things?
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> p4 not slow
[05:06] <webnet> skilz xchat is this which uses constant network access
[05:06] <mrdeb> atom is faster than p4
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> skilz: clock speed?
[05:07] <MahaVishnu> p4 is pretty slow compared to anything from this era.
[05:07] <webnet> BernSamson, apt-get remove [package]
[05:07] <Tech-1> mt asus eee atom kicks but w/ubuntu
[05:07] <skilz> 2.39ghz
[05:07] <skilz> dude
[05:07] <skilz> My system was 14% cpu idle
[05:07] <BernSamson> so 'sudo apt-get remove firefox'?
[05:07] <Tech-1> how much ram U got
[05:07] <skilz> now it's 49%
[05:07] <MahaVishnu> 2.39ghz is not even a high end p4.
[05:07] <mrdeb> atom is good for ubuntu
[05:07] <skilz> NO
[05:07] <aeon-ltd> skilz: ok fluctuations are normal
[05:07] <skilz> t's not firefox
[05:07] <skilz> man
[05:07] <Tech-1> pkill firefox
[05:07] <aeon-ltd> skilz: what is eating it up right now?
[05:08] <skilz> FU%$*@ firefox
[05:08] <skilz> it's nothng to do with t
[05:08] <Tech-1> skilz:  terminal = ntop
[05:08] <skilz> it's some system process
[05:08] <webnet> skilz. i have 10.10 and my cpus are running at 6% and 4%
[05:08] <MahaVishnu> skilz, can you stop using the enter button for punctuation ?
[05:08] <skilz> Okay
[05:08] <skilz> listen guys!!!
[05:08] <skilz> Please
[05:08] <FloodBot1> skilz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <Tech-1> lol
[05:08] <skilz> I startx, then load firefox
[05:08] <webnet> skilz. pm me
[05:08] <skilz> sorry
[05:08] <skilz> I srartx then load fluxbox
[05:08] <skilz> then conky
[05:08] <Josh_> hey people
[05:08] <ubuntu_n00b> hey again, how do i get to system?
[05:08] <Josh_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVQG1MswY-k
[05:09] <ubuntu_n00b> In Ubuntu 10.10, this is found under System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers.
[05:09] <Tech-1> stop panicking
[05:09] <MahaVishnu> 11.10 here with firefox, xachat, transmission, terminator + whatever system crap on... 4% cpu use.
[05:09] <Josh_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hU6iZyEVX8
[05:09] <Tech-1> same here
[05:09] <MahaVishnu> but im not on a p4 heh.
[05:09] <share> Josh_: don't spam
[05:09] <aeon-ltd> skilz: depending on your conky set up and refresh/reload rates you've set conky will probably take 1-5% of cpu at almost all times
[05:09] <Tech-1> atom ?
[05:09] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[05:09] <ubuntu_n00b> hey again, how do i get to system? In Ubuntu 10.10, this is found under System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers.
[05:09] <skilz> I startx then load fluxbox
[05:09] <skilz> then load conky
[05:09] <MahaVishnu> Tech-1, i3 550 oc from 3.2 to 4.2ghz. nothing special just my baby.
[05:10] <ubuntu_n00b> how do i get to that 'system'
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> skilz: yes we heard.
[05:10] <Tech-1> cool
[05:10] <skilz> nothing else is running and already 40% cpu
[05:10] <share> ubuntu_n00b: use the panel?
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> skilz: wait a few seconds
[05:10] <skilz> 2 days ago, same scenario, but 14% cpu
[05:10] <Tech-1> skilz:  terminal = ntop..that will show whats running
[05:10] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm running 11.10
[05:10] <share> ubuntu_n00b: oh.
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> HEY!
[05:10] <excelsior> oh, while I'm here, the only thing I've found that fixes my wifi without having to reboot my laptop is sudo modprobe -r iwlagn, and then sudo modprobe iwlagn, where iwlagn is the name of the driver.
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> its 'htop'
[05:10] <bullgard4> ubuntu_n00b: Please add your operating system version and desktop environment to your question.
[05:11] <MahaVishnu> skilz, in htop your processor is always @ 40% idle ?
[05:11] <almostroot> Josh_: Are... are they fighting with spinning tops?
[05:11] <aeon-ltd> not ntop, ntop will show network processes
[05:11] <Tech-1> ya, sry htop
[05:11] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm using ubuntu 11.10 and i think the desktop is unity but i could be wrong
[05:11] <skilz> It's 87% now
[05:11] <MahaVishnu> skilz, there is nothing we can do about your cpu use honestly.
[05:11] <Tech-1> did you htop yet ?
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> MahaVishnu: bull.
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> yeah we can
[05:12] <excelsior> I had a friend who used to run the latest bleeding edge Ubuntu, but he also carried around a couple of laptop harddrives...
[05:12] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, like what?
[05:12] <sidney> should I be able to visit this address and see the file http://hacktolive.org/repo/archive/pool/main/w/winetricks/winetricks_0.
[05:12] <skilz> But it's not my cpu, it's ubuntu
[05:12] <aeon-ltd> MahaVishnu: simple, reduce the amount needed to process
[05:12] <excelsior> and a screwdriver kit...
[05:12] <Canadian1296> Can anyone give me a little assistance on a Ubuntu LiveCD I'm making?
[05:12] <polardude1983> Hello, I am having trouble with a folder that has spaces in it in a shell script. I did the \ but it doesn't work. here is my shell script that im using http://paste.ubuntu.com/765616/ it just says no polly directory and doesn't find polly dogg dir
[05:12] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, huh?
[05:12] <kion> Canadian1296: yes
[05:12] <pfifo> sidney, no its a shell script, you need to download it to view it
[05:13] <flysnowchiu> hi guys!  any ways to control the mem in conky when I use "lua"?
[05:13] <kion> Canadian1296: first download the .iso image
[05:13] <MahaVishnu> polardude1983, put  " around the file path " I think...
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> MahaVishnu: there will be a limit to what skilz's pc can do but really single core 2.4ghz can run most things easily - i'd say the only thing that would cripple it would be moderate flash use
[05:13] <kion> Canadian1296: after that i am pretty shure that rightclick will give you the option burn to disk
[05:14] <sidney> pfifo if i reinstall 10.04 you think it will update
[05:14] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, uhm single core p4 can barely transcode 720p on the fly.
[05:14] <aeon-ltd> yeah it can
[05:14] <pfifo> sidney, im sorry i have no idea what you mean
[05:14] <sidney> system nolonger updates
[05:14] <polardude1983> mahavishnu, I tried putting " " around the whole "/home/user/polly doggy" but didnt' work. just said no polly dir found
[05:15] <MahaVishnu> not to stream it, it can do a file like eventually. trust me I had a p4 for many years a good one with h/t they are not that fast compared to anything. but this is all offtopic so who cares.
[05:15] <aeon-ltd> 1080 it would struggle, maybe get around 10-12 fps, but 720 with a preloaded buffer would be fine
[05:15] <pfifo> sidney, do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[05:15] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, nah tried it on ps3 media server to do 720p and it barely would stream it right ever.
[05:15] <sidney> pfifo,  dosent work
[05:16] <aeon-ltd> MahaVishnu: that's more likely a combo of processing and network bandwidth
[05:16] <pfifo> sidney, can you pastebin the output of those commands
[05:16] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, nah dude. gigabit ethernet even 100mb ethernet has way more bandwith than 720p requires dude...
[05:16] <bullgard4> !unity | ubuntu_n00b
[05:17] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, it was all processor, how do I know? cause now on the same network with an i3 I can stream 1080p no problem to the same xbox. ( yea ps3 media server works for xbox's )
[05:17] <polardude1983> mahavishnu, I have tried " ", and \ but none work for the shell script to recognize that the folder has space.
[05:17] <MahaVishnu> polardude1983, I think take the \ out and just use "
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> heh, point taken.
[05:18] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, honestly. I banged my head against the wall forever with that p4 I wouldnt lie about it.
[05:18] <polardude1983> mahavishnu, no still says no Polly directory instead of polly doggy
[05:18] <Canadian1296> kion: I'm talking about doing some customizations on casper before building the iso on a custom (minimal, no gui) lived I've been working on
[05:19] <ubuntu_n00b> i'm trying to install proprietary drivers for my onboard graphics card
[05:19] <aeon-ltd> i still stand by thay P4 = still fast and good for today's applications, just needs a lil compromising
[05:19] <ubuntu_n00b> it's a radeon xpress
[05:19] <kion> Canadian: oops.. sorry for that.. .cant help :(
[05:19] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, also p4 is 32 bit....
[05:19] <GhostWolf> hi all, have an issue, webnet has been trying to help me but he suggested i ask on the main, i woke up earlier today and seemed my mouse and kb stopped working, cause i couldn't get my power saver back to my normal screen, manually turned off the pc, turned it back on, it took a long time for ubuntu to load, so i rebooted agian manually, and this time selected the ubuntu recovery console, it seems im having a problem loadin
[05:19] <GhostWolf> g ubuntu, i have an image of what it says after the last part of the recovery mode
[05:19] <sidney> pfifo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/765617/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/765619/
[05:19] <Canadian1296> kion: Okay, thanks anyways  :)
[05:19] <aeon-ltd> MahaVishnu: nope some were 64bit capable
[05:20] <MahaVishnu> aeon-ltd, ah didnt know.
[05:20] <Canadian1296> Can anyone help with some casper customizations on a Ubuntu LiveCD I'm making?
[05:20] <aeon-ltd> heh at the time though no one even had close to 4gb 64bit would have been useless for home use
[05:20] <webnet> Canadian1296, i pmd you. talk to me there. too much clutter and other stuff out here
[05:21] <pfifo> sidney, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove any refrences to 'http://hacktolive.org' then retry the above commands
[05:21] <GhostWolf> btw here is the link for the pic that has some info at the end of the recovery mode, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/20111209210336.jpg/
[05:22] <Butters> Hey I was wondering if someone could talk to me about the possibility of starting a project for building a new linux distro that acts purely as a virtual machine host.
[05:22] <MahaVishnu> polardude1983, you tried this ? for file in "/home/christoph/Videos/test/polly\ doggy*.*"
[05:23] <Canadian1296> webnet: okay, thanks
[05:23] <EvilResistance> is there a way in console to search through the contents of files for a specific word or phrase recursively?
[05:23] <EvilResistance> (i.e. in all directories within a given path)
[05:24] <aeon-ltd> Butters: #ubuntu-offtopic ; but why? wouldn't that just really be server + a few applications?
[05:24] <polardude1983> mahavishnu, yes and still doesn't recognize it
[05:24] <w30> EvilResistance, grep does that; see man grep
[05:24] <sidney> pfifo, do i do this in terminal if so I get command not found
[05:24] <crazytrane> spaces in filenames=the devil
[05:25] <Butters> aeon-ltd: yes it would.
[05:25] <crazytrane> polardude1983, looks like you escaped the space right, though
[05:25] <pfifo> sidney, try `sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list` remove the lines with that URL
[05:25] <EvilResistance> w30:  any way to tell if it fails?
[05:26] <aeon-ltd> Butters: then why? it would just be shorter to just write a guide and a script that would pull in those packages.
[05:26] <polardude1983> crazytrane, but for some reason it doesn't register it like normally
[05:26] <GhostWolf> also if anyone can help me with my issue, you can pm me if it be easier.
[05:26] <mrdeb> what issue
[05:26] <Butters> aeon-ltd: because some programs for different OS' can not be pulled in so easily.
[05:26] <skilz> How can I disable graphical boot and logn
[05:26] <skilz> I want verbose bootup
[05:27] <GhostWolf> mrdeb, i just posted it few minutes ago, its long so i don't feel like reposting, you can scroll up to see it
[05:28] <mrdeb> ok ghost idk, that is not specific
[05:28] <crazytrane> polardude1983,can you do it straight from a shell? ie. (for file in polly\ doggy\*.*; do echo $file;done)
[05:28] <skilz> Is I try to remove plymoth, it wants to remove all of gnome
[05:28] <skilz> 500mb
[05:28] <w30> EvilResistance, test your command-flag combinations on something you know the answer to.
[05:28] <crazytrane> just to see if that works
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> skilz: get rid of 'quiet' as the boot option at grub
[05:28] <skilz> aeon-ltd, wheres that?>
[05:28] <skilz> what file?
[05:28] <GhostWolf> mrdeb, what is not specific, i posted my issue again im not reposting it cause its a long post..
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> skilz: can't remember if you need to change 'splash' to 'nosplash'
[05:29] <aeon-ltd> skilz: at boot, when at grub press 'e' at the kernel of your choice
[05:29] <pfifo> aeon-ltd, skilz you only need to remove 'splash' nosplash wont do anything
[05:29] <mrdeb> i mena i dont know what is happening with screen saver in your case
[05:29] <excelsior> When watching a longish movie, it sometimes becomes jumpy. Any easy fixes? Or just restart the movie player?
[05:29] <skilz> pfifo, where I do remove that?
[05:29] <skilz> hat file do I edit?
[05:30] <EvilResistance> w30:  oop nevermind i found the source of the break
[05:30] <polardude1983> crazytrane, if i change it to /polly\ doggy\ it still comes up with polly  or if i do /polly/ doggy/ it comes up with just doggy
[05:30] <GhostWolf> mrdeb, its not my screensaver thats the issue. you didn't read the full post..
[05:30] <urlin2u> !grub 2
[05:30] <EvilResistance> w30:  i should just read build logs.. :P
[05:30] <mrdeb> i read it
[05:30] <urlin2u> !grub
[05:30] <pfifo> skilz, /etc/grub.d
[05:31] <crazytrane> polardude1983, if you type the filepath in a shell, does it tab complete?
[05:31] <GhostWolf> obviously you didn't cause i didn't mentioin the scrreensaver was my issue. i did mention the power/screen saver but didn't say that was the issue..
[05:32] <polardude1983> crazytrane, not exactly sure what you mean by that. sorry.
[05:32] <crazytrane> pressing tab in a shell will auto complete the filename
[05:32] <crazytrane> so you don't have to type the whole thing
[05:32] <mrdeb> well i can help you but that is not clear
[05:33] <GhostWolf> don't then, again its not about my screen saver, its about unbutu not loading period..
[05:33] <crazytrane> so "cd pol[TAB]" will/should auto complete
[05:33] <webnet> mrdeb the issue is drive failure. figured that out in pm
[05:34] <mrdeb> what
[05:34] <GhostWolf> for anyone else who might be able to help, i also have link from imageshack i took of my monitor from the end of a recovery mode for ubuntu, if its too hard for you to help on main you can also pm me, here is the post, hi all, have an issue, webnet has been trying to help me but he suggested i ask on the main, i woke up earlier today and seemed my mouse and kb stopped working, cause i couldn't get my power saver back to my
[05:34] <GhostWolf> normal screen, manually turned off the pc, turned it back on, it took a long time for ubuntu to load, so i rebooted agian manually, and this time selected the ubuntu recovery console, it seems im having a problem loading ubuntu, i have an image of what it says after the last part of the recovery mode
[05:35] <Canadian1296> Can anyone help me with disabling casper autologin on a livecd im making?
[05:35] <polardude1983> I have no idea why its being such a butt about this lol
[05:36] <pfifo> Canadian1296, set a password for the ubuntu user
[05:36] <crazytrane> it's obviously something with the path, but your script is handling the space right
[05:37] <polardude1983> crazytrane, though when I take out the space in the actual folder and just do pollydoggy it works
[05:37] <polardude1983> crazytrane, but this is just a test directory, really want it to get working with spaces.
[05:38] <Canadian1296> pfifo: Tried that already. Even if i boot, set a password, then type "logout", i get logged back in automatically. I also tried changing the password in the config files before building, with no success
[05:38] <pfifo> polardude1983, you need to escape spaces with a backslash \ or enclose the filename inside of quotes ""
[05:39] <polardude1983> pfifo, tried that. still for some reason not working
[05:39] <crazytrane> he's escaping the space right, i recreated the directory here, and tested your script. works here. lol
[05:39] <crazytrane> i know that doesn't help
[05:40] <pfifo> Canadian1296, hmm, im not sure then... It worked for me last time I needed to do it
[05:41] <Canadian1296> pfifo: Which one worked for you? passwd after booting from the livecd, or setting one before building the cd
[05:42] <pfifo> Canadian1296, setting one while building
[05:42] <polardude1983> i tried changing it to for file in ~/Videos/test/polly\ doggy/*.* but didnt work. hmm weird
[05:43] <Canadian1296> pfifo: Okay, ill try again just to see. Did you use mkpasswd and place the encrypted pass in the config file, or just use "passwd" while in the chroot? (I use debootstrap and the chroot into it.)
[05:43] <D347H> hola
[05:44] <pfifo> Canadian1296, i use debootstrap and chroot in, create a user named ubuntu with the id of 999 and set a password using passwd ubuntu
[05:45] <Canadian1296> okay thanks, ill try that
[05:46] <sidney> pfifo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/765628/
[05:47] <pfifo> sidney, looks good
[05:48] <polardude1983> i even tried doing in="polly doggy" then /home/user/"$in"/*.* and still didnt work. just did polly
[05:48] <polardude1983> maybe a restart will make it work lol :P
[05:48] <sidney> pfifo,  the thing is I don't know how it got that way
[05:48] <mrdeb> is everhyone enjoying ubuntu in this holiday season
[05:48] <mrdeb> ?
[05:49] <pfifo> sidney, is your machine upgrading correctly now?
[05:49] <bluegoon> My desktop to emitting a steady pulsating drone.. not enjoying this
[05:49] <sidney> trying now
[05:50] <sidney> pfifo, Unable to lock the list directory
[05:51] <pfifo> sidney did you run it with sudo?
[05:52] <share> ^
[05:52] <sidney> pfifo, it still failed
[05:53] <bullgard4> mrdeb: Me.
[05:53] <exoterico> ciao
[05:53] <exoterico> list!
[05:53] <sidney> pfifo,  it still looking for http//hacktolive
[05:53] <pfifo> sidney, im not sure then, but yes, a reinstall will fix your system at any rate
[05:54] <sidney> pfifo, thank for your time good night
[05:54] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[05:55] <polardude1983> I am gonna try without the directory and just run it within whatever directory i am gonna run it in
[05:55] <gunfire007> so ubuntu has support for optimus technology ?
[05:56] <gunfire007> i have heared that optimus technology enabled more battery is drained is that true ?
[05:56] <exoterico> !list
[05:57] <borari> hey is anybody alive on here>
[05:57] <Canadian1296> Yeah
[05:58] <borari> so... i got a question about this ubuntu thing...
[05:58] <pfifo> this is the zombie channel, were all dead
[05:58] <Canadian1296> borari: what's your question?
[05:58] <share> end of the world
[05:58] <webnet> borari, whats going on
[05:58] <borari> So i just upgraded to the newest version
[05:58] <webnet> ok.
[05:59] <black_ru> hello al, pls does it work ? i am testing apache
[05:59] <borari> and now I cannot log in to my account
[05:59] <usr13> borari: put it all on one line.
[05:59] <black_ru> http://runix.sytes.net/
[05:59] <usr13> borari: Wrong password?
[05:59] <borari> alright. I just upgraded Ubuntu and can only log in as a guest. when logging in to my regular account, scfreen flashes black to quickly for me to see the text and back to login
[06:00] <usr13> borari: Upgraded from ________ to ___________ ?
[06:00] <pfifo> black_ru, seems to be working
[06:00] <black_ru> pfifo, thx
[06:01] <borari> version 11.04 to 11.10
[06:01] <w30> borari, check ownership of your home directory files and folders, especially .Xdefaults and .Xauthority
[06:03] <w30> borari, if it turns out to be root that owns these files it can be caused by using sudo for a GUI app. Use gksu for GUI apps instead.
[06:04] <borari> ownership of my home folder says it is root. is that what I want or do I want it to be my username?
[06:04] <elky> you want it to be your username, borari
[06:05] <w30> borari, for example if your login user is borari, then borari should be owner and group
[06:05] <Canadian1296> What packages would you recommend for a LiveCD ("password hacking" tools like chntpw, recovery tools, etc.)? No gui on the livecd so command line tools only please...
[06:05] <borari> ah ok. can i change the ownership though the emergency ctrl+alt+f1 terminal? I am pretty new to linux here sorry...
[06:05] <sasank> how can i learn programs
[06:06] <w30> borari, yes
[06:06] <webnet> go here for a list of tools Canadian1296 http://www.gnacktrack.co.uk/faqs.php
[06:07] <w30> chown -R borari.borari  *
[06:07] <elky> borari, you'll need to do: sudo chown borari:borari /home/borari
[06:07] <pfifo> Canadian1296, parted and emacs, aircrack
[06:07] <webnet> that is pentest tools btw'
[06:07] <sasank> n programs
[06:08] <Canadian1296> pfifo: thanks
[06:08] <Canadian1296> webnet: okay ill take a look
[06:08] <w30> borari, yeah, stick a -
[06:08] <pfifo> Canadian1296, i would say wireshark but since you dont have a gui youll have to use tcpdump
[06:08] <w30> -R flag on chown for recursive
[06:08] <bluegoon> sasnak, there are many books available for many languages.
[06:09] <sasank> is there any logic applied in programs
[06:09] <webnet> kk. not all are good Canadian1296  but alot of good cracking tools
[06:09] <Stanley00> sasank: yes, and, or not and so on ... :)
[06:09] <share> !null
[06:10] <Canadian1296> webnet: thanks
[06:10] <sasank> any book for c language
[06:10] <sbts> borari: you may need to also use the -R flag for chown to recursivly change the content of your home dir. but only if things inside your home dir are incorrectly owned
[06:11] <webnet> sasank, google it?
[06:11] <Canadian1296> Any other recommended packages, more disk utilities now?
[06:11] <borari> w30 thanks for the help, off to try and figure it out... I'll be back!
[06:11] <bluegoon> sasank, google for MIT open courseware, there are some Engineering development concept programs.
[06:11] <webnet> hmm Canadian1296 well there is testdisk and photorec
[06:11] <sasank> easiest way for learning any programming language
[06:12] <webnet> Canadian1296, those are in my opinion are invaluable. you can add ophcrack as well to help get into windows system
[06:13] <Stanley00> sasank: there is no easiest way, the easier way is from basic to advanced
[06:13] <Canadian1296> webnet: alright
[06:14] <sasank> which programming language should i take first
[06:14] <Blue1> basic?
[06:14] <pfifo> sasank, python
[06:14] <Stanley00> sasank: I prefer pascal
[06:15] <Blue1> my first language, was fortran ii, fwiw
[06:15] <enot> НЯ! ^_^
[06:15] <bluegoon> sasank, google Microsoft Small Basic, its very well built for beginners.
[06:16] <sbts> bluegoon: shame on you, suggesting a M$ language in a linux channel!!!!!
[06:16] <pfifo> sasank, learn m68k assembly for your first language
[06:16] <bluegoon> sbts, hehe
[06:16] <Canadian1296> sasank: i started by messing around on microsoft with vbs and bat scripting. Then went for it and taught myself C++...
[06:16] <sasank> earlier i hd some grasp upon c and c++ but it becomes difficult to write programs
[06:16] <Blue1> bluegoon: actuallyh that  isn't a bad place to sart
[06:16] <enot> пыщ пыщ пыщ пыщ пыщ пыщ пыщ пыыыыыыыыыщ
[06:17] <Stanley00> my first language is pascal, from where I learn algorithm, and then step to C, and OOP in C++, never try python, what a pity!
[06:17] <sbts> sasank: it depends on what you want to do in the end. any pascal based language would be good as a first as it will teach you good structure from the beginning
[06:17] <OerHeks> !ru | enot
[06:17] <bluegoon> Bluel, I actually read up on Small Basic, its a very honest and interesting project, meant specifically for people new to programming.
[06:17] <sbts> sasank: check out freepascal and lazuraus (I think that is spelled right)
[06:17] <Blue1> bluegoon: it is a good first choice
[06:17] <sasank> future in c++
[06:17] <bluegoon> Blue1, yep, think so too.
[06:18]  * Blue1 wonders if there is a gbasic?
[06:18] <tikitty> I get this error from php when i try to connect to mysql Connection refused (trying to connect via tcp://127.0.0.1:3306), any one know what this means?
[06:18] <Blue1> nope
[06:19] <pfifo> my first language was basic included with my commodore 64
[06:19] <Blue1> tikitty: yes you are trying to connect to your local machine on port 3306 which off the top of my head no idea what that is used for
[06:19] <sbts> sasank: yep c and it's derivatives are a pain the the butt to write in, they are the right language for many tasks (linux kernel for example) but there are a large number of pitfalls for the unwary
[06:19] <Blue1> sbts: indeed!
[06:19] <Hatori> 3306 for mysql
[06:19] <bluegoon> Just noticed there is also a #Programming, so asking around there should also be useful.
[06:20] <pfifo> tikitty, it seems you mysql server is not running
[06:20] <sasank> what's difference btwn c++ and java
[06:20] <fizyplankton> my first language was python. after learning TI-84 Basic, bash, java, and c++, i had never been happier to write a python program
[06:20] <webnet> java is based on c++ sasank
[06:20] <fizyplankton> sasank: from a syntax point of view, not all that much
[06:20] <sbts> sasank: it is spelled lazarus and is in the ubuntu repositories. it is actually an IDE (integrated development environment) for freepascal that allows you to also write gui apps.
[06:20] <Blue1> first home computer as a ti 99-4a
[06:21] <Firefishe> I'm using oneiric 11.10.  I use the latest gnome and kde desktops.  I notice that, when I log in, either in gnome or kde, a nautilus window opens by default.  I haven't found a way to stop this from occurring.  What causes this and how can I make it stop?
[06:21] <sasank> i want to do game programming, which language becomes helpfull
[06:21] <GhostWolf> !format
[06:22] <Firefishe> Blue1: We had one of those in my 1984 computer programming class in high school ;)
[06:22] <Firefishe> Blue1: scratch that!  I meant a trs-80.
[06:22] <pfifo> sasank, python has SDL and opengl bindings, and is easy to learn and write
[06:22] <sbts> sasank: lazarus is essentially an open source project to duplicate the capabilities of Borland Delphi, the windows capable variant of turbopascal.  it allows rapid visual creation of user interfaces and easy linking of code to the userinterface.
[06:22] <fizyplankton> sasank: if you mean like big direct-x-ey games, forget it. it will take years amd years to learn that much. i would reccommend python as a springboard to other proging languages
[06:23] <fizyplankton> http://blog.aegisub.org/2008/12/if-programming-languages-were-religions.html very funny
[06:23] <sbts> sasank: if you want to program games, you may be better asking in #programming, then in some game specific channels.  codeing for games is a fairly different field from the rest of the universe
[06:24] <sasank> firstly i want to take a simple game,lets take chess,how can i make a program
[06:24] <pfifo> Perl would be Voodoo lol
[06:24] <share> I can't find the 'Virtual Basic GUI' package to track killer's IP address
[06:25] <sbts> sasank: there are a number of chess programs in the ubuntu repositories, why don't you download the source code for them, and look at the various languages that have been used.
[06:25] <fizyplankton> sasank: because chess has array and for loop iterations out the wazoo, i would reccoment python. i tried to do that in c++ after only knowing c++ for a week. i ahvent touched ~/c++/chess.cpp in over 6 months. im scared
[06:26] <sbts> sasank: from that you should be able to see what you personal preference is for that type of game. for action games it may be better to use something else.
[06:26] <sasank> once i had seen, but it becomes confusing to understand
[06:26] <fizyplankton> python is nicknamed "executable pseudo code"
[06:27] <fizyplankton> (perl on the other hand, is "executable line noise"
[06:27] <pfifo> sasank, check this out http://pygame.org/
[06:28] <sbts> The best coders I have personally worked with all started out with pascal like languages, then went on to learn other languages as needed. as I said before pascal teaches good programming practices and techniques. it is afterall what it was designed to do.
[06:28] <pinche> How can I build a private virtual cloud desktop with ubuntu? Is it just a matter of hosting a VirtualBox snapshot on an Ubuntu Server or do I need a more complex environment with Ubuntu Cloud?
[06:29] <pinche> I want to be able to build this privately in my home server with Ubuntu. Possible? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDfsMNQ3SrU
[06:29] <sasank> whats the future of game programming
[06:29] <pfifo> sasank, xbox is using .NET (c#) and psx is using C/C++
[06:31] <sasank> simplest technique for learning pascal
[06:32] <pfifo> 1 chapter from a book every week, make sure todo all the excercises and answer all the questions
[06:32] <pinche> #ubuntu-server
[06:34] <sasank> how much time does it takes to learn pascal
[06:34] <pfifo> a couple weeks if you really study hard, but could take years to master
[06:35] <sbts> sasank: there are heaps of tutorials with freepascal and on the web. even lazarus has tute's
[06:35] <sbts> sasank: it shouldn't take long if you are serious
[06:36] <sasank> do i have to remember the basic commands or first understand them
[06:36] <pfifo> sasank, hands on practice is the best way
[06:37] <sbts> if you use lazarus it has good built in help, and realtime syntax assistance.
[06:37] <Canadian1296> sasank: understand them. But following along as you learn helps A LOT
[06:38] <sasank> i learnt linux a long time where i had found only commands to remember
[06:39] <pinche> Hi, I would like to build a private cloud desktop in my home server. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDfsMNQ3SrU How would it be possible with Ubuntu?
[06:39] <almoxarife> pinche: its simple enough
[06:40] <almoxarife> pinche: install virtualbox on the server, have some os on the virtualbox to serve
[06:42] <sasank> what should i learn first a basic program or a highly advanced program
[06:42] <pinche> almoxarife: Thanks for replying. So it's just a matter of hosting a VM snapshot?
[06:42] <pfifo> sasank, learn something easy first
[06:42] <almoxarife> pinche: yeap, just like the url you keep spaming(referring to)
[06:43] <sasank> how should we write a prgram in a single line,supose writing a sentence in c++
[06:43] <tokam> Hi.. I installed postgresql on my ubuntu system but the command to set the password postgres psql template1 is not executeable because my shell does not know postgres as command.
[06:44] <tokam> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/postgresql.html
[06:44] <tokam> ok it is for ubuntu 8 and i am on 11.4
[06:45] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[06:45] <tokam> if one of you could help me on this it would save my life. I have to launch a big project on monday and i work since 3 nights without sleep
[06:45] <EvilResistance> sasank:  you might need ##programming or ##c ?
[06:45] <EvilResistance> erm
[06:45] <pinche> @almoxarife: Yikes, sorry, didn't meant ot be spamming that link.
[06:45] <EvilResistance> sasank:  well ##programming at the least
[06:46] <kenperkins> how do I track down slow ssh performance? It's taking 6 seconds to execute a command over ssh where the target is a virtual machine on the local host
[06:46] <kenperkins> (should be near instant)
[06:46] <tokam> my goal is a simple pgsql database it will be generated anyway i have my code on a higher abstraction level :)
[06:46] <tokam> I am not starting from scatch installing the dbms when launching on monday haha
[06:46] <almoxarife> pinche: of course if I was gonna pay you to access the virtual-os I would want you to show me how I now own it, since I am paying you, lets say, and of course you would have to buy a license for those multiple os's (windows) from the git-go , assuming you were legit, but yeah, why not
[06:47] <sasank> after learning pascal or c++ which any other language should i learn
[06:48] <tokam> sasank: java & php & scala
[06:49] <tokam> never worked with scala but i heard it is going to become tha java of the future because oop is not good in multithreading (deadlocks)
[06:50] <tokam> functional programming is petter here (scala) and the new more law is not that the amount of transistors doubles per year it is that the amount of cores doubles.
[06:50] <pfifo> tokam, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[06:50] <sasank> i hv windows on my systm,bt i wnt to instll lnx,whts the booting method
[06:50] <tokam> thanks a lot pfifo
[06:50] <tokam> and some of you got advice how to get the rest out of you?
[06:51] <tokam> i already put nacl in my eyes to keep them wet hahaha :D
[06:51] <tokam> i have fun doing what i do but i need to get more out
[06:51] <tokam> i can not sleep anyway i tried it but i stay awake in bed
[06:51] <tokam> i can close no eye
[06:52] <atruno> Brian Pham of Houston, TX  http://pastebin.com/qUSTKFLL
[06:52] <michael> hi all
[06:53] <sasank> does it happen if wrongly booting linux will damage the system
[06:54] <sasank> whts the difference between get and getch command
[06:55] <pfifo> sasank, follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[06:57] <sasank> is there any difference btwn get and getch command or we cn write the same
[06:59] <sasank> what is php,is it a programming language
[06:59] <pfifo> php is a programming language that more suited to web development
[06:59] <tokam> pfifo: i have installed all the packages but i do not have the command postgres
[07:00] <sasank> using php can we build a website?
[07:00] <pfifo> tokam, the command is simply psql, not postgres psql
[07:00] <tokam> maybe it should be mentioned in the tutorials for tired people as me :) thx
[07:01] <tokam> psql: FATAL:  role "root" does not exist
[07:01] <casaburip> ciao
[07:01] <casaburip> !list
[07:02] <tokam> sry
[07:02] <pfifo> tokam, it is, the second command on that guide is 'psql -h server.domain.org database user'
[07:02] <sasank> i do nt have php latform, in which site is it avalable
[07:03] <pfifo> sasank, if you dont have ubuntu installed, then first you need to install ubuntu
[07:03] <tokam> psql -h localhost database root
[07:04] <tokam> FATAL:  password authentication failed for user "root"
[07:04] <sasank> how can i retrieve a password if locked in my computer
[07:04] <pfifo> tokam, make sure to run it as root
[07:05] <tokam> I do
[07:05] <tokam> pfifo: http://web916.kerstin.webhoster.ag/pastebin.de.vu/paste722.html
[07:06] <tokam> must i somewhere set the pw before running this command?
[07:07] <pfifo> tokam ask in #postgres then, im not sure how to set a password
[07:07] <tokam> found something here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/psql-fatal-ident-authentication-failed-for-user/
[07:07] <newbiecostee> hi guys
[07:08] <sasank> can we convert a program to another software language?
[07:08] <anand> help
[07:08] <pfifo> sasank, no
[07:09] <sasank> whats the use of syntax
[07:09] <tokam> root@tokam:~# find / -type f -name pg_hba.conf
[07:09] <tokam> is running cos the file did not exist where expected
[07:10] <sasank> does it exist that without knowing syntax ,can we run a program
[07:11] <pfifo> sasank, your not making any sense
[07:11] <tokam> found it in etc
[07:11] <sasank> sry
[07:12] <sasank> i heard a language named perl,wht is it
[07:13] <pfifo> perl is a programming language that is tailored to extracting data from documents, its quite dificult to learn
[07:14] <sasank> can we apply our basic knowledge  and apply it to writin programs
[07:15] <pfifo> sasank, yes basic is a good first language, it is very easy and will teach you several important aspects of computer programming
[07:16] <sasank> is there any bk easier for learning basic language
[07:18] <sasank> which language has a good bit of efficiency?
[07:18] <pfifo> efficiency how?
[07:19] <bigterd> pig latin
[07:19] <bigterd> very efficient
[07:19] <pangolin> !behelpful
[07:19] <sasank> thats ritin the program in two lines instead of 10 lines
[07:20] <pfifo> perl and lisp are notable for that
[07:21] <sasank> does perl has many commands to remember
[07:21] <bigterd> haha, piglatin.
[07:21] <pfifo> perl is dificult to lear because it has many symbols that you need to use
[07:22] <bigterd> my first i played with was python
[07:22] <sasank> how can i grasp it
[07:23] <pfifo> sasank, why do you keep asking questions about languages?
[07:24] <cebrere> hey i have a question regarding video display if anyone would mind helping me?
[07:24] <bigterd> yeah, !offtopic
[07:24] <bigterd> !offtopic
[07:24] <sasank> i want to learn many programmin languages
[07:25] <cebrere> well it is regarding ubuntu
[07:25] <pfifo> sasank, asking questions about programming here isnt going to teach you anything, go download an intrepreter and get to work
[07:25] <sasank> i do not any programmin software, where can i get/
[07:25] <bigterd> hes asking how to learn it. not regarding how to make it work with ubuntu
[07:26] <cebrere> i can't switch my display to on
[07:27] <pfifo> sasank, goto http://lua.org they have many tutorials and an online intrepreter, its easy to learn too
[07:27] <cebrere> i had an hdmi cable plugged into my t.v. and it was working beautifully, then I shut my laptop and it wouldn't detect after that
[07:28] <sasank> thanks
[07:28] <almoxarife> atruno: the link has been passed on to the police
[07:30] <sasank> whts the meaning of binaries
[07:30] <usr13> sasank: apps
[07:30] <sasank> in c++
[07:30] <almoxarife> sasank: join #c++
[07:31] <usr13> sasank: A file containing binary code
[07:32] <sasank> which programmin language requires buildin a website
[07:33] <mascot> Ahoy
[07:33] <anand> sasank: just ask these questions to google and u will get a great amount of info
[07:35] <anand> sasank: and when u picked up a language and have any problem ask on that language specific channel
[07:36] <sasank> can we reduce the loops in c++ into a single loop in writing any rogram
[07:36] <anand> sasank: my suggestion start with python then c then c++ and then java
[07:36] <anand> sasank : depends
[07:36] <sasank> why java comes last
[07:38] <anand> sasank: coz by the time u will have great knowledge of programming and java is a languge with lots of packages and fuctionalities that require understanding of programming
[07:38] <skilz> Any application (NON GNOME) (preferebly xfce based) to control brightness and contrast for monitor/video card?
[07:39] <anand> sasank: u need to learn the programming tech and any language will be easy enough
[07:39] <sasank> is ubuntu a linux based operatin system
[07:40] <usr13> sasank: Well yes.... Are WE taking a test here?
[07:40] <anand> sasank: no one can teach u programming only u can ,,books tutes are just for teaching language syntax.........
[07:40] <usr13> sasank: Next question.....
[07:41] <anand> sasank: yes
[07:41] <skilz> sasank, learn some bash and c, #bash #c
[07:41] <sasank> i do nt like to ask questions but i feel dreary in ritin lengthy programs
[07:42] <mascot> anand: agreed
[07:42] <aiayiu> hello
[07:42] <mascot> which language to use to program for ubuntu ?
[07:43] <webnet> Aiayiu hi
[07:43] <sasank> linux
[07:44] <anand> sasank: you dnt even know what an os and what ubuntu is dude u need to exit and do some study read books on os networking ,computer organization etc......then think about programming
[07:44] <aiayiu> I am freshman
[07:45] <webnet> mascot. Java? Tho if you know c u can use qt
[07:45] <almoxarife> there is a god
[07:45] <mascot> webnet: thanx for the reply
[07:46] <mascot> I like OO paradigm, so I dont' think I am gonna use C
[07:47] <mascot> Which is the best IDE, eclipse or Netbeans
[07:47] <webnet> Ok. mascot ok. Try searching the software center for a compler
[07:47] <anand> mascot: i think eclipse
[07:47] <webnet> mascot. Eclipse
[07:47] <mascot> nice
[07:48] <webnet> More mature and stable imo
[07:49] <geniusdc> b
[07:50] <webnet> Not tht netbeans is bad mascot... id actually say try both. It comes down to which u like better in the end
[07:50] <mascot> hmm
[07:50] <webnet> Which ur more comfortable using
[07:51] <mascot> I am begineer now
[07:51] <mascot> I am using VIM
[07:51] <mascot> thinking to go with IDE
[07:51] <mechbo> anybody know what "Send retweets to all services" does in Gwibber ?
[07:52] <webnet>  Vim FTW! Lol bit yeah youll meed an ide for sure. And a compiler for buildd
[07:53] <webnet> Hi mechbo. No clue...
[07:54] <mascot> BTW is there any vim script to do code folding ?
[07:55] <webnet> mascot idk. Vim is HUGE so id have to imagine yes.
[07:56] <mascot> ok
[07:56] <mascot> webnet
[07:56] <webnet> Try google. Someone probably wrote one if its not in already
[07:56] <skilz> mascot, use nano
[07:56] <mascot> why so skilz
[07:56] <anand> mascot : http://aymanh.com/a-collection-of-vim-tips try this link
[07:56] <skilz> it's more user friendly
[07:56] <skilz> 'just works' easy
[07:56] <anand> mascot: there z a section for code folding
[07:57] <webnet> See i figurrd there was one :D
[07:57] <mascot> anand: ok
[07:57] <skilz> plus its a newer text editor
[07:57] <skilz> based from pico
[07:57] <webnet> skilz not as advanced tho
[07:57] <webnet> Vim is a huge editor
[07:59] <skilz> webnet, Yes but most average users don't need/use all those extra features and they can just become confusing
[07:59] <mascot> zfa} works great for code folding in VIM
[07:59] <mascot> thanx anand
[08:00] <mascot> zo and zc to re-open and close the code fold
[08:00] <webnet> True. He is programming tho. But skilz you are right about ot being a confusing edotor
[08:00] <anand> mascot: u are welcome dude
[08:03] <mao> how to let less display the Trademark symbol
[08:04] <webnet> Mao ??
[08:04] <webnet> Where what r u trying to do?
[08:05] <mao> webnet: Some text has trademark symbol,while gedit display normoally
[08:06] <webnet> mao ok. Is the tm in the filename?
[08:07] <mao> webnet: eh...maybe,I don't know what it exectly called
[08:08] <mao> webnet: Not in the filename,but in the file
[08:08] <mascot> I can't have my folder named "HTML"
[08:09] <mascot> TM changes to some symbol
[08:09] <mascot> why is that
[08:10] <webnet> Tm is a charactor
[08:10] <godofmischief> on my ubuntu machine, network devices are no longer showing up when i browse to them, i still have connectivity to network folders that are mounted, and im streaming from one of the machines.
[08:10] <mao> webnet: how to let less display it
[08:11] <webnet> But not a standard one so gedit uses a string to display it. Like how copyright symbol is &copy in html
[08:11] <mascot> how can I name my folder HTML
[08:12] <mao> webnet: So less cann't display it ?
[08:12] <webnet> Mascot mv  foldername html
[08:13] <webnet> mao. Is gedit displaying it but not when you run the file
[08:13] <webnet> ???
[08:14] <nogi> ciao
[08:14] <skilz> .file is a hidden file, file is a visible file
[08:14] <mao> webnet: Gedit display it normally but less cann't
[08:14] <nogi> !list
[08:16] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[08:16] <mao> webnet: Less display the tm charactor as <A9>
[08:16] <mao> webnet: Less display the tm charactor as "<A9>"
[08:18] <muhavini> muhavini
[08:19] <muhavini> kukakukhu
[08:19] <webnet> Ok mao let me see... give me a sec so u can try on my machine
[08:19] <webnet> *so i can
[08:26] <mascot> I want to setup a local server to do some PHP learning
[08:26] <mascot> what should I choose
[08:26] <mascot> LAMP or XAMPP
[08:27] <cgtdk> mascot: XAMPP is very easy to setup.
[08:27] <webnet> Use apache then seperate install musql
[08:28] <webnet> mao what are you entering to display tm
[08:28] <cgtdk> mascot: Here's a guide to installing LAMP on Ubuntu 11.10: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-11.10-lamp
[08:30] <skilz> Any application (NON GNOME) (preferebly xfce based) to control brightness and contrast for monitor/video card?
[08:33] <rob__> Excuse me. If I accidentally unplug my headphones and plug them back in, no sound comes out of them. Can anybody help?
[08:34] <cgtdk> rob__: Have you checked if sound is muted?
[08:34] <rectec> cgtdk: yes
[08:34] <rectec> cgtdk: same thing happens in both my Ubuntu installations
[08:35] <webnet> rectec thats odd do you have other headphones you coyld test with?
[08:35] <rectec> webnet: Good idea. These headphones are brand new so I didn't suspect them. Brb
[08:37] <rectec> webnet: Nope, still no sound. : ( Must have something to do with Pulseaudio
[08:38] <webnet> Thatd be my guess rectec. The phones were worth a shot
[08:38] <rectec> webnet: Both my KDE and Gnome 3/Unity installations have Pulse, and both have the same problem
[08:38] <webnet> Hmm...
[08:38] <rectec> Recent update bug?
[08:38] <webnet> Proprietary driver?
[08:38] <rectec> For headphones?
[08:39] <webnet> No for soundcard
[08:39] <webnet> rectec^^^
[08:39] <rectec> No pretty sure it's not.
[08:39] <webnet> Ok
[08:39] <rectec> hmm
[08:40] <Phayder> question: when i install a fresh ubuntu, will it auto show up on the network? like will ppl be able to see my comp on the network?
[08:40] <rectec> it ocurred recently
[08:40] <Phayder> besides the router
[08:40] <Phayder> like in workgroup/shares or w.e
[08:40] <webnet> Phayder if you add it to the workgroup
[08:40] <rectec> Phayder: I think you'd need to set it up
[08:41] <sam22> hail !!!! people of this channel !
[08:41] <rectec> Phayder: Samba maybe? I'm not sure how networking works in Linux
[08:41] <Phayder> so there will be no trace of my computer other than the normal checking whos on the router?
[08:41] <sam22> O/
[08:41] <Phayder> cuz when u install windows, share is on by default, and ur workgroup, is well workgroup
[08:41] <Phayder> and ppl can see u if they open up the network window
[08:41] <webnet> Phayder... not reallt
[08:41] <webnet> Oh gotcha
[08:41] <Phayder> i dont wanna be seen by any other computer systems on the network
[08:41] <webnet> Kk
[08:42] <webnet> Yea youd have tovset that up to show up like tht Phayder
[08:42] <rectec> should I clear out .pulse and reinstall pulseaudio maybe?
[08:42] <Phayder> ok webnet
[08:42] <Phayder> thanks
[08:42] <Phayder> btw
[08:43] <Phayder> do u know how to hide from other comps on the network on windows as well?
[08:43] <Phayder> ive turned off sharing
[08:43] <Phayder> and such
[08:43] <Phayder> but im still not sure if i can be seen
[08:43] <webnet> rectec. Yeah give tht a shot
[08:43] <rectec> Turn off network discovery
[08:43] <webnet> ^^^exactly
[08:43] <Phayder> where do i go to find that
[08:43] <Phayder> lol
[08:43] <rectec> Funny cause I set up Windows networking with my friend just recently
[08:44] <rectec> Network and sharing center in vista+7
[08:44] <rectec> just search
[08:44] <webnet> Xp ctrl panel > networks
[08:45] <rectec> yeah I kinda miss XP
[08:45] <webnet> Oh Phayder unjoin workgroup
[08:45] <rectec> first OS used
[08:46] <DeltaEpsilon> what is faster? xen virtualizatin or KVM virtualization?
[08:46] <webnet> Start>right click computer> properties
[08:46] <webnet> Phaydet^^^
[08:47] <webnet> Phayder^^
[08:47] <Phayder> well
[08:47] <Phayder> it says its network is WORKGROUP
[08:47] <Phayder> but
[08:47] <Phayder> i turned off network discovery
[08:47] <Phayder> and printer sharing
[08:47] <Phayder> and what not
[08:47] <FloodBot1> Phayder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <Phayder> for both public profile
[08:48] <rectec> debconf-communicate
[08:48] <Phayder> and the home profile
[08:48] <Phayder> im not flooding, im lagging :(
[08:49] <rectec> I keep getting that brief notification named 'Debconf-communicate whenever I install something in software center...
[08:49] <webnet> Ok click change next to workgroup
[08:49] <webnet> Phayder^^
[08:50] <sam22> konqueror is based on which browser ?
[08:50] <sam22> browser engine
[08:50] <Phayder> ok
[08:50] <Phayder> i unjoined the Homegroup
[08:50] <godofmischief> on my ubuntu machine, network devices are no longer showing up when i browse to them, i still have connectivity to network folders that are mounted, and im streaming from one of the machines.
[08:50] <Phayder> Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center
[08:51] <godofmischief> just don't know how to fix this without pulling a winblows deal and rebooting
[08:51] <Phayder> it now says Homegroup: create or join
[08:51] <rectec> sam22: KHTML/WebKit
[08:51] <sam22> rectec is there something els out there not based on gecko or webkit ?
[08:52] <Phayder> Now webnet, if both pcs have sharing off and are hidden on the network, how can i share files over the network? local ip via ftp?
[08:52] <rectec> sam22: I think konqueror has KHTML by default, with WebKit being available to install
[08:52] <webnet> Absolutly that would work
[08:52] <Phayder> sweet, thanks
[08:52] <rectec> sam22: lemme look
[08:53] <nevyn> khtml is the parent of webkit.
[08:53] <sam22> i want another browser for testing not based on netscape/mozilla or webkit
[08:54] <sam22> ok guys i found it
[08:54] <sam22> thanks and sorry if i took from your time
[08:54] <rectec> sam22: wait
[08:54] <webnet> Opera sam22
[08:54] <sam22> yeah opera is based on presto
[08:54] <rectec> sam22: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers#General_information look on the right
[08:54] <sam22> let me look..
[08:55] <rectec> where it says layout engine
[08:55] <sam22> very nicee
[08:55] <sam22> thanks man.. i really appericate yoru help
[08:55] <Whiskey> anyone here thats good on regexp?
[08:55] <Phayder> Da,m webnet, problem
[08:55] <Phayder> if i turn off windows network discovery, windows firewall automatically turns on :\
[08:56] <Phayder> and if i turn windows firewall off, discovery turns back on :|
[08:56] <Whiskey> :P
[08:57] <webnet> Good find rectec
[08:57] <rectec> sam22:np
[08:57] <webnet> Phayder wjy do you wamt forewall off?
[08:58] <Phayder> cuz i have a router
[08:58] <Phayder> connected :p
[08:58] <Phayder> with firewall
[08:58] <Phayder> i dont need windows firewall
[08:58] <Phayder> dd-wrt
[08:58] <webnet> But win is a pita and always turns it on
[08:59] <mash1> d
[08:59] <webnet> And thts good because there are differences between a hardware and softwate fw
[08:59] <rectec> webnet: Do you know how to restart pulseaudio? If I try 'pulseaudio' after using 'pulseaudio -k', it says 'Failed to load module "module-esound-protocol-unix" (argument: ""): initialization failed.'
[09:00] <rectec> Wait..
[09:00] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[09:00] <rectec> Need to argue with it right?
[09:01] <rectec> but how...
[09:01] <Dogget> can't locate VPN settings in Ubuntu 11.10 using gnome Shell, help more than welcome
[09:03] <webnet> rectec try rebooting
[09:03] <rectec> webnet: back in a sec
[09:06] <rectec> back
[09:06] <Hatori> Wew
[09:06] <rectec> ugh
[09:07] <rectec> yeah it still isn't fixed
[09:07] <webnet> No go?
[09:07] <webnet> Not working at all
[09:07] <webnet> ??
[09:07] <rectec> Man it's gotta be hardware-related
[09:07] <rectec> No it always fixes itself on reboot
[09:08] <rectec> but when i unplug the headphones, forget about it.
[09:08] <webnet> But it didnt this time^
[09:08] <webnet> ???
[09:08] <webnet> Or did it?
[09:08] <rectec> no same symptoms as before
[09:09] <rectec> I unplugged it again after reboot and it still won't work after plugging them back in
[09:09] <webnet> The issue starting pulse? Or issue with the jack?
[09:09] <rectec> I'll switch to Windows and see if it still does it
[09:10] <rectec> be back in a few mins
[09:10] <webnet> K
[09:22] <rectec> back
[09:22] <rectec> sorry would've been quicker but my stupid network configuration is faulty
[09:23] <rectec> webnet: it didn't have any problems on Windows...
[09:23] <webnet> Odd... hmmm....
[09:24] <rectec> webnet: If I wasn't such a die-hard Linux fan I would've just switched back right now.
[09:24] <ArizonaBa> hi guys i have a question relating excel :/  and i know someone here will be able to help me
[09:25] <webnet> Lol. I hear ya. It has to be a compatibility issue i think...
[09:25] <ArizonaBa> why Dcount disregarding my criteria?
[09:25] <rectec> webnet: *sigh* but I believe in Linux and open source and a few hundred problems aren't gonna change me
[09:25] <webnet> Hahaha. Me niether :D
[09:26] <rectec> webnet: idk it always worked fine up until a week ago
[09:26] <webnet> Ooh. Have you updated around tht time?
[09:26] <rectec> webnet: was there a pulseaudio update released recently?
[09:27] <ArizonaBa> no one ; __ ;
[09:27] <ArizonaBa> please?
[09:27] <rectec> *bang.* shot ur question down before it even had a chance : P
[09:27] <webnet> Idk. Maybe. Also a dep for something else is clashing
[09:28] <rectec> 33 days ago
[09:28] <rectec> nah that's too long...
[09:28] <Techdude101> rectec: what problems are you having?
[09:28] <webnet> Yea... something else update in tht time?
[09:28] <rectec> Techdude101: *using up arrow*
[09:29] <webnet> Techdude101 FRESH EYES! :D
[09:29] <rectec> nvm..
[09:29] <rectec> Techdude101: If I disconnect my headphones I can't hear them when I reconnect
[09:31] <rectec> Let it be known that further questions will result in further answers... anyone? no?
[09:31] <Techdude101> are you connecting the headphones to the front or rear socket?
[09:31] <rectec> uhhhh
[09:31] <rectec> the *headphone jack*
[09:31] <rectec> or input if you will
[09:32] <ArizonaBa> can someone tell me whats wrong with this command : Note = "E"?
[09:32] <webnet> So front
[09:32] <Dogget> trying to set up a VPN connection in gnome shell, and not finding any VPN settings inside the network manager. Help!
[09:32] <rectec> it's a laptop
[09:32] <Techdude101> desktop or laptop/netbook
[09:32] <rectec> only one audio out
[09:32] <godofmischief> smb shares are no longer appearing when i browse my network, how can i restore this without having to restart?
[09:33] <rectec> Dogget: I know man but I have no idea I wish I could help : (
[09:33] <webnet> ArizonaBa ur asking a ms excel question on a linux irc?
[09:33] <Techdude101> rectec: Are you using KDE or GNOME?
[09:33] <webnet> Both^^
[09:34] <rectec> Techdude101: It does this on Kubuntu so I installed a fresh Ubuntu with Gnome shell and it still has the problem
[09:34] <Dogget> @rectec is is available in Unity? I mean I prefer Shell as it is fast and working perfectly for me unlike Unity
[09:34] <rectec> Dogget: could you maybe rephrase that plz?
[09:35] <Dogget> Sorry my bad.
[09:35] <rectec> 's ok
[09:35] <Dogget> Is the option to set up a VPN connection available in Unity?
[09:35] <Cradam> yes, why wouldnt it
[09:35] <Dogget> There used to be the option in previous versions of Ubuntu, not sure if it's there now
[09:35] <rectec> lemme check. I doubt it, as they're both based on Gnome 3 and share the same network manager
[09:36] <Techdude101> rectec: is there any info about sound in the logs (dmesg, syslog etc...)
[09:36] <Dogget> Ok thank you
[09:36] <rectec> but unity does have better applets
[09:36] <rectec> one sec one sec one sec
[09:36] <Dogget> but it's like asking a donkey to become a horse racer!
[09:37] <rectec> yes I do see options for VPN
[09:37] <rectec> VPN>Configure VPN
[09:37] <Dogget> OK so if I set it up in Unity will it keep that in Shell?
[09:38] <rectec> I'm not sure. If I add a wifi network it does keep the passkey across DEs
[09:38] <rectec> Give it a go
[09:38] <rectec> or shells, rather
[09:39] <rectec> same thing
[09:39] <rectec> now on to those logs
[09:39] <Dogget> OK I am going to check then. Thanks Rectec
[09:39] <sasori> my ubuntu box is a full lamp environment..my question is, how to install  and use svn ? XD ,,I got used with windows svn gui XD
[09:39] <rectec> want me to pastebin dmesg?
[09:40] <Techdude101> rectec: yeah sure, wouldn't hurt
[09:40] <rectec> 2 minds are better than one
[09:41] <Techdude101> rectec: Also, how are you testing the sound (mplayer etc...)?
[09:41] <rectec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765722/
[09:41] <rectec> Techdude101: Flash plugin
[09:42] <rectec> Techdude101: Pandora, web music player, etc.
[09:42] <Guest79927> can you help: running ubuntu 11.10 inside vmware with windows 7 host, 4GB ram, 1GB ram assigned to ubuntu, C2D processor. Ubuntu running 2D Unity with graphics drivers installed (and up-to-date) feels slow on interface. everything, from menu, unity, to minimize/maximize windows is sluggish. 3D acceleration in vmware is enabled.
[09:42] <Techdude101> rectec: have you tried speaker-test? (speaker-test -c2 -twav)
[09:43] <rectec> Techdude101: Line 786
[09:44] <rectec> it should work
[09:44] <rectec> it's when I unplug the headphones that the audio stops
[09:44] <Techdude101> Just noticed that line 786
[09:44] <rectec> but the speakers still produce audio
[09:44] <rectec> it's wierd
[09:45] <rectec> yeah just thought it was relevant
[09:45] <Kottizen> hi - when I ran this: 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa'and then this: 'sudo apt-get update' I got this: http://pastebin.com/TEyqinPt
[09:45] <Kottizen> does anyonw know where that repository has been moved to?
[09:45] <Techdude101> rectec: Try using the speaker-test command from terminal and see what happens
[09:45] <rectec> front right
[09:45] <rectec> front left
[09:45] <rectec> front right
[09:46] <rectec> front ledt
[09:46] <rectec> ft
[09:46] <rectec> meh
[09:46] <Techdude101> ctrl+C to stop
[09:46] <rectec> thanks
[09:46] <Techdude101> Is it coming through both devices (speakers & headphones)?
[09:46] <rectec> no
[09:47] <rectec> now when I unplug my headphones
[09:47] <rectec> that's the problem
[09:47] <webnet> Try the test after re plug
[09:48] <rectec> when I plug em back in, no sound whatsoever. Unplug, I can hear the speakers
[09:48] <rectec> well good news
[09:48] <webnet> Hmm...
[09:48] <rectec> my laptop speakers are in stereo
[09:48] <Guest79927> can you help: running ubuntu 11.10 inside vmware with windows 7 host, 4GB ram, 1GB ram assigned to ubuntu, C2D processor. Ubuntu running 2D Unity with graphics drivers installed (and up-to-date) feels slow on interface. everything, from menu, unity, to minimize/maximize windows is sluggish. 3D acceleration in vmware is enabled.
[09:48] <webnet> Ok?
[09:49] <rectec> Guest79927: yeah it's because of vmware
[09:49] <rectec> Guest79927: it will always slow it down
[09:50] <rectec> Guest79927: I mean virtual machines in general
[09:50] <webnet> Guest79927 try increasing the ammt of ram vm is allowed to give to the vm image
[09:50] <rectec> Guest79927: or vram
[09:50] <Guest79927> rectec: isn't there any way to reduce more 3d/transparency effects in order to speed it up?
[09:51] <rectec> Guest79927: are you trying it out or do you need to use ubuntu quick?
[09:51] <Snowie> hi all. anyone here handy with realtime audio. have upgrade packages to ubuntu studio, is meant to have realtime. getting choppy sound on playback in ardour. please if anyone could 1/ help me make sure rt is running and 2/ give some advice on optimising it
[09:51] <Snowie> ubuntu 11.10
[09:52] <rectec> Hm. Ubuntu Studio has JACKS sound server right
[09:52] <rectec> ?
[09:52] <webnet> Snowie increase your audio buffer size in jack
[09:52] <Guest79927> rectec, no, just trying it out. i'm ocasionally running ubuntu since 2004,  but not as a primary os
[09:52] <rectec> psh I'm overwhelming myself lol
[09:53] <webnet> That is a pro audio problem Snowie.
[09:53] <webnet> For any os
[09:53] <Techdude101> Guest79927: You could install ubuntu alongside windows 7 and dual boot
[09:53] <Snowie> rectec: correct
[09:54] <rectec> Guest79927: yeah VMs are good for trying out. Get the real thing though if you want realtime performance. VMs must emulate processes so it takes longer to do stuff
[09:54] <Guest79927> rectec, i'll check the vram, but i guess it's already on 128, maximum ammount. anyway, i'm asking about performance since older versions prior unity were faster inside virtual machine
[09:54] <Snowie> webnet: jack is in the repos, so is ardour. thought i would come here first. not like a compiled a tarball for this stuff
[09:54] <Snowie> webnet: dont see an audio buffer size in qjack
[09:55] <Snowie> qtjack sorry
[09:55] <rectec> Techdude101: line 807. Horrible, horrible network module
[09:55] <webnet> Yeah im just saying, even in logic or cubase or fl, the choppy audio comes from not enough buffer size Snowie
[09:56] <rectec> Techdude101: I have to run a script twice just to get my wifi up
[09:56] <rectec> grr
[09:57] <Snowie> webnet: thanks. i have been reading that since 10.11 there is a new way they handle memory locks. i thought i had run the fix for that, as the programs done complain of it anymore. think it could be something to do with that?
[09:57] <Techdude101> rectec: I hear ya, had similar problems
[09:57] <Techdude101> rectec: What are you using right now, KDE or GNOME?
[09:57] <rectec> Techdude101: Dmesg output... very interesting to see what the kernel's doing as it starts
[09:58] <rectec> Techdude101: Gnome shell
[09:59] <rectec> Techdude101: hold on
[09:59] <rectec> Techdude101: pulseaudio log
[09:59] <webnet> Snowie possibly
[09:59] <Techdude101> rectec: I have a feeling that there is a priority issue. Had a similar problem with KDE
[10:01] <rectec> here we go
[10:01] <rectec> got a log
[10:01] <rectec> posting to pastebin
[10:01] <ghostnik11> hi can anyone recommend to me, a good laptop backpack to buy
[10:02] <rana> how to custom fire animation for ubuntu 11.10? any one help
[10:02] <Alfred> How to install Lubuntu on Macbook?
[10:03] <rectec> 4http://paste.ubuntu.com/765735/
[10:03] <rectec> woops
[10:03] <rectec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765735/
[10:03] <MK`> I have a system with both Windows 7 and Ubuntu installed. I was messing around with some Windows settings and accidentally broke my Windows installation. If I use Windows's recovery thing, will this alter my Ubuntu installation or my boot sector at all?
[10:04] <rectec> yeah that's something
[10:04] <rana> how to custom fire animation for ubuntu 11.10? any one help
[10:05] <rectec> rana: what window manager are you using?
[10:06] <Techdude101> rectec: Have you checked the volume level/mute state after replugging headphones?
[10:06] <rectec> Techdude101: yeah let me do it again
[10:07] <rectec> Techdude101: the problem isn't with volume. It switches devices when it's plugged
[10:08] <rectec> I urge you to go over that log
[10:08] <Techdude101> rectec: Just noticed something in the pulseaudio log about mute state and volume level
[10:09] <alb1> dude does anyone now how can i install sis163 on here after many many tries and wireless patches no success
[10:10] <Techdude101> rectec: Downloading a copy of ubuntu as I'm currently using kubuntu
[10:10] <rectec> I think it's trying to use the HDMI port. It does the same thing with KDE
[10:10] <rectec> now that's dedication
[10:10] <rectec> thanks
[10:10] <rectec> but...
[10:11] <rectec> I really should call it a night
[10:11] <Techdude101> rectec: Yeah, I know how to change the priority in KDE, just not in GNOME
[10:11] <rectec> Techdude101: got an email address?
[10:12] <rectec> (don't post it here btw)
[10:12] <Techdude101> rectec: Was gonna ask you the same thing
[10:12] <rectec> well yeah who wants to quit when we've gone this far
[10:12] <rectec> ?
[10:12] <Techdude101> lol
[10:12] <mustu> hi, i have installed 11.10 .. flash video is lagging
[10:13] <mustu> i have removed and installed many time.. from ubutu repo from adobe website..  no effect
[10:13] <rectec> mustu: off the top of my head, try the Flash-Aid FF addon
[10:14] <Gentoo64> mustu, are you coming straight from windows?
[10:14] <mustu> rectec: i did tried after reading from ubuntu forums :|
[10:14] <rectec> oh
[10:14] <mustu> Gentoo64: nope
[10:15] <Gentoo64> maybe its the gpu drivers
[10:15] <mustu> i have tried the 64bit from adobe.. and the 32bit with wrappers by the FF plugin
[10:15] <Gentoo64> well the 64 bit one is the one to use now
[10:15] <Gentoo64> as its properly supported
[10:15] <mustu> I tried usign the "Additional Drivers" for my nVidia... i also tried after removing the addition drivers
[10:16] <mustu> Gentoo64: at first i used the flash plugin from restricted repo ..
[10:17] <Gentoo64> for the sake of it, have you tried a different browser like chromium?
[10:17] <mbertens> Hi, i have a question; is it the general idea ubuntu-group to drop de ubuntu classic gui interface ?, i don't like the unity interface, when  installed the 11.04 i could get it back to the classic interface but now when i installed 11.10 it was a big mess and it did not work correctly :-(
[10:18] <mustu> Gentoo64: yes
[10:18] <Gentoo64> mustu, im not too sure :s
[10:18] <mustu> I havent tried the 64bit option by that FF plugin.. however i have manually installed the 64bit from adobe website
[10:18] <mustu> i m tryign the 64bt by the FF plugin
[10:18] <Gentoo64> ok
[10:19] <oCean> !nounity | mbertens
[10:20] <mbertens> oCean: thanks
[10:21] <mbertens> i will install it first now in virtual box and see if i can get it to work correctly
[10:21] <Snowie>  sudo apt-get install linux-rt linux-headers-rt
[10:21] <Ascavasaion> I am using Evolution e-mail client.  I am downloading GMail via IMAP and it works wonderfully to open mails.  But the moment I am offline and try to open an e-mail it tells me "Unable to retrieve message / This message is not currently available".  how can I make it keep messages locally as well?
[10:21] <Snowie> not found
[10:21] <Snowie> on 11.10, is that right
[10:21] <Snowie> Linux Tank 3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 2 13:25:36 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:22] <oCean> mbertens: that's definitely a good way to testdrive it
[10:23] <mbertens> oCean; yeah i made the mistake to upgrade directly, so i have to downgrade everything
[10:23] <oCean> mbertens: an actual downgrade is not possible/supported. You would have to reinstall
[10:24] <mbertens> oCean: yeah i did :-(
[10:24] <Gentoo64> mbertens, if you can, use clonezilla first
[10:24] <oCean> mbertens: but if it is just because you don't like the Unity interface, you can give gnome-shell a try
[10:24] <Gentoo64> everyone seesm to be using thta now
[10:24] <Grommet> I changed my IP with my internet provider twice and the same mexican dsl IP keeps showing up in my firewall trying to connect on port 22474 UDP
[10:24] <Grommet> what is happening :/
[10:24] <oCean> mbertens: not sure if you're a KDE fan, but you could also give kubuntu a try
[10:25] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering password? I need a file on it and them I could format it but that file is necessary.
[10:25] <Gentoo64> ^ I agree, if you're using vbox, just try them all out !
[10:25] <Gentoo64> see what you like the best
[10:25] <oCean> indeed, it's weekend after all :)
[10:26] <mbertens> oCean; i used gnome for two years now, i switched from Windows to ubuntu and i'm very happy with this, i don't like change to mush :-)
[10:27] <Gentoo64> Grommet, no idea, is the ip being blocked then?
[10:27] <Grommet> it says it is blocking yeah
[10:27] <Grommet> but I wanna know what he's doing lol
[10:28] <Gentoo64> mbertens, well kde looks a bit like win7, xfce looks a little bit like gnome2
[10:28] <Gentoo64> Grommet, it might just be a generic block, prob nothing to worry about
[10:28] <Gentoo64> do you have (or had) something listening on that port?
[10:28] <Grommet> but how does he keep finding my new ip
[10:28] <Grommet> no the port isn't open
[10:29] <Grommet> that I can tell anyway
[10:29] <Gentoo64> did you make sure you're using the new ip? youll need to reset the modem and router afaik
[10:29] <Grommet> I have yes and this IP is the third one he's found me somehow
[10:30] <mbertens> Gentoo64; thanks but i hate the win 7 interface thats the reason that i switched OSes, and i will checkout the XFCE interface :-)
[10:30] <HAL> Q: How do you make a oneliner that searches in the folder and then puts 20 files (ALL SAME FILETYPE) and then put them in to new directories in the same folder 100 files each new directory?
[10:30] <Gentoo64> mbertens, well xfce is the closest official DE to gnome 2 atm
[10:30] <mbertens> Gentoo64; ok ill check it
[10:31] <HAL> Q: How do you make a oneliner that searches in the folder and then puts 100 files (ALL SAME FILETYPE) in to new directories in the same folder 100 files each new directory?
[10:31] <Gentoo64> HAL, why spam so fast? thats like 5 seconds lol
[10:31] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering password? I need a file on it and them I could format it but that file is necessary. anyone?;P third day i'm on here ._.
[10:31] <HAL> Gentoo64: the previous was not correct
[10:32] <HAL> :)
[10:33] <Gentoo64> ok sorry
[10:33] <stevecam> is it possible to boot a VHD file from an Ubuntu install?
[10:33] <Gentoo64> does anyone here by any chance have a p7p55d motherboard?
[10:33] <osse> How do I use apt-cache to search for packages with a string in the _name only_ =
[10:33] <osse> ?
[10:34] <llutz> osse: man apt-cache (--names-only)
[10:35] <osse> llutz, brilliant, thanks
[10:35] <Applesouce> Hello, I have a problem with my Ubuntu, my WLan doesnt work...
[10:36] <Applesouce> It workes before but then I reinstalled it on my Notebook and now there is no WLan anymore
[10:36] <HAL> any bash:ers here?
[10:36] <oCean> HAL: probably in #bash
[10:36] <bazhang> HAL, try #bash
[10:36] <bazhang> heh
[10:36] <Tzunamii> HAL: Just state your issue and see if anyone can help
[10:37] <oCean> HAL: in your case it's probably not a one-liner, you have to use a counter (i think) to create your unique directories
[10:37] <oCean> Tzunamii: he did
[10:37] <HAL> Hi Guys!
[10:37] <Tzunamii> ah, my mistake
[10:37] <HAL> Q: How do you make a oneliner that searches in the folder and then puts 100 files (ALL SAME FILETYPE) in to new directories in the same folder 100 files each new directory?
[10:39] <osse> You can use {} expansion. mkdir folder{1..100}, touch file{1..100}
[10:39] <Applesouce> Can somebody help me with my Wlan problem :/
[10:39] <osse> I sometimes do that on the desktop in Apple stores :P
[10:40] <osse> Applesouce, impossible without more info
[10:40] <osse> which card is it?
[10:40] <Applesouce> Ehm, how do I figure that out?
[10:40] <dkov> Applesouce, what is the issue?
[10:40] <Applesouce> Well I reinstalled Ubuntu on my Notebook and now there is no Wlan anymore
[10:40] <Applesouce> and I cant activate it
[10:41] <Applesouce> Is there a terminal command that tells me what Wlan-Card I have?
[10:41] <dkov> Applesouce, "sudo iwconfig"
[10:41] <Techdude101> Applesouce: lspci
[10:42] <Applesouce> ok wait
[10:42] <dkov> Applesouce, try "sudo iwconfig" do you see anything there?
[10:42] <Applesouce> yes
[10:43] <Applesouce> it shows me wlan0
[10:43] <dkov> Applesouce, anything but "/msg NickServ identify"
[10:43] <dkov> Applesouce, there you go
[10:43] <dkov> Applesouce, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:43] <dkov> Applesouce, and you are ready :)
[10:44] <Applesouce> IEEE 802.11bgn
[10:44] <Applesouce> Operation not possible due to RF-Kill
[10:45] <dkov> Applesouce, did you switch your wifi on?
[10:45] <Applesouce> I can't
[10:45] <dkov> Applesouce, you should have a physical switch
[10:46] <Applesouce> Oh
[10:46] <dkov> Applesouce, like a button or a combination of keys like "FN + F7"
[10:46] <Applesouce> Yes I have this button
[10:46] <ogra_> Applesouce, try the following command and see if its soft or hard blocked: rfkill list all
[10:46] <dkov> Applesouce, or just push the button :)
[10:46] <ogra_> if its hard, then the pyhsical switch is toggled to off
[10:47] <ogra_> if its soft, "rfkill unblock all" will enable it
[10:47] <Applesouce> there are two Wireless Lan
[10:47] <dkov> Applesouce, you mush have a sort of a let that show if wifi is on/off
[10:47] <Applesouce> and on both are Soft and Hardlock "yes"
[10:47] <ogra_> si find your switch on your HW
[10:47] <ogra_> *so
[10:47] <ogra_> and toggle the wlan to on
[10:48] <ogra_> "hard blocked" means the physical switch turned it off
[10:48] <bullgard4> !wireless | Applesouce
[10:48] <vampire> from indonesia
[10:48] <Applesouce> well I have this button but it only works with Windows
[10:48] <dkov> 'Applesouce has quit' :))) damn he was actually using the wifi :)))
[10:49] <Applesouce> no I'm using my PC at the moment^
[10:49] <Applesouce> ^^
[10:49] <Applesouce> on phy0 says it's Hardblocked
[10:49] <ogra_> you want wlan0
[10:49] <Applesouce> there is no wlan0
[10:50] <ogra_> (or wifi_rfkill or some other name that indicates a wlan device)
[10:50] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering password? I need a file on it and them I could format it but that file is necessary. anyone?;P
[10:50] <Applesouce> there is
[10:50] <ogra_> phy0 is likely a wired network card
[10:51] <Applesouce> hp-wifi, hp-bluetooth, py0 and hci0
[10:51] <ogra_> hp-wifi then
[10:51] <Applesouce> and next to hp-wifi and phy0 is: Wireless Lan
[10:51] <ogra_> try the "rfkill unblock all" command
[10:51] <dkov> Applesouce, but you want to use wifi or bluetooth?
[10:51] <ogra_> and see what changes
[10:52] <Applesouce> well I want to be able to use both but Wlan is more important
[10:52] <Applesouce> nothing has changed
[10:52] <Applesouce> hp-wifi is soft and hardblocked
[10:53] <ogra_> right, then you can only change it with the physical switch
[10:53] <ogra_> you said that works in windows, can you boot into wndows ?
[10:53] <dkov> Applesouce, press the combination of keys you use on Windows to physically switch on/off you wifi!!!
[10:53] <Applesouce> I already did that
[10:53] <Applesouce> and now I'm trying to get into windows
[10:54] <ogra_> toggle it to on in windows and see if that persists when you reboot into linux
[10:54] <dkov> Applesouce, do you have any type of indicator on the laptop when wifi is on?
[10:54] <Applesouce> yes the light is orange or white
[10:55] <Applesouce> it was orange all the time
[10:55] <Applesouce> now I switched to Windows and it's white
[10:55] <dkov> Applesouce, do ass ogra_  said boot in windows switch it on then reboot in ubuntu
[10:56] <Applesouce> ok I my connection works with Windows
[10:56] <dkov> Applesouce, if you reboot now in ubuntu is it still working?
[10:56] <foul_owl> how do i connect to a wireless access point without using nm-applet?
[10:57] <dkov> foul_owl, iwconfig "device [wlan0]" enc:AABBCCEE
[10:57] <kanout> hello everybody! I try to install ubuntu 11.10 on a win7 system. The installer doesn't recognize the win 7 OS. What can I do to rescue win 7 from the installation?
[10:57] <dkov> foul_owl, iwconfig "device [wlan0]" enc:AABBCCEE essid:"name"
[10:58] <foul_owl> i have wpa2
[10:58] <foul_owl> why can't i use the network manager to connect? there is no connect button anywhere on it
[10:59] <foul_owl> i run nm-applet, but it doesn't show up anywhere, and it can't add it to the panel
[10:59] <foul_owl> how do i force a xorg app to appear on my screen
[11:00] <nio> hello all
[11:01] <Applesouce> ok
[11:01] <Applesouce> everything works fine now
[11:01] <dkov> foul_owl, what you see in your "cat /home/me/.xsession-errors"
[11:01] <Applesouce> thanks :D
[11:01] <dkov> Applesouce, your welcome
[11:01] <dkov> foul_owl, what you see in your "cat /home/me/.xsession-errors | grep nm-applet"
[11:02] <foul_owl> oh man, lots of stuff
[11:02] <foul_owl> hmm i don't have internet on my other computer, let me look for anything relevant one sec
[11:03] <dkov> foul_owl, do you see nm-applet errors?
[11:03] <foul_owl> ok, i get some warnings like: GConf-WARNING Director `apps/panels/toplevels/bottom_panel_screen1/screen was not being monitored by GConfClien 0x81b9d50
[11:03] <nio> i don't whether this is the right place to ask this question but i want to peep inside the ubuntu kernel but could not find how x server starts
[11:03] <dkov> foul_owl, btw change /me/ with /"your account"/
[11:03] <foul_owl> yes did that thanks!
[11:04] <dalek_> how do I install microsoft ADO with wine?
[11:04] <foul_owl> i get just an nm-applet warning: invalid connection /system/netowkring/connections/21: etc
[11:04] <dalek_> how do I install microsoft ADO with winetricks?
[11:04] <foul_owl> like, i can run nm-applet. i can kill it and run it, but it never shows up
[11:05] <dkov> foul_owl, hmm try to reinstall it
[11:05] <foul_owl> whats the command on that
[11:07] <Abid> hi...how can i configure PPPOE..?
[11:07] <dkov> foul_owl, "sudo apt-get remove network-manager-gnome"
[11:07] <dkov> foul_owl, "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[11:07] <foul_owl> thanks!! i will try that one sec
[11:08] <dkov> foul_owl, do you have your CD?
[11:08] <dkov> foul_owl, as if you don't have network you will need the source from it
[11:09] <foul_owl> hmm i do not have the cd
[11:09] <Lolo> start to dl the .deb then
[11:09] <Lolo> before removing netork manager
[11:09] <foul_owl> i dont have internet on that computer because the nm-applet doesnt work
[11:09] <dalek_> I am trying to install iPass client connect in wine.... It says "Database support not found. Your system must meet the following minimum system requirements: 1) Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher 2) Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP SP1 3) 16-bit color mode (65536 colors) 4) Microsoft ADO version 2.0 or higher must be Installed" How do I fix this?
[11:11] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[11:12] <kanout> hello everybody! I try to install ubuntu 11.10 on a win7 system. The installer doesn't recognize the win 7 OS. What can I do to rescue win 7 from the installation?
[11:12] <foul_owl> i can probably download the deb and put it onto a flash drive. where can i download the deb for lucid network-manager-gnome
[11:14] <bullgard4> kanout: What installer do you speak about?
[11:14] <kanout> the ubuntu installer from the live cd
[11:15] <bullgard4> kanout: Do you know that there are several Ubuntu installers and several Ubuntu Live CDs?
[11:15] <kanout> i have the ubuntu 11.10 iso
[11:15] <kanout> downloaded from the official site.
[11:16] <foul_owl> where can i download the deb for lucid network-manager-gnome
[11:16] <hc96> Hi! what's wrong with my gitk? http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/pdxosakl/gitk.emacs.d_001.png Maybe it's due to tk, but I'm not sure. How can I correct it? (Look at the fonts in the image)
[11:18] <bullgard4> kanout: Still, there are several Ubuntu 11.10 Iso images.
[11:19] <kanout> bullgard4: the installation shows me that message: The computer currently has no operating systems. What would you like to do a) erase disk and Install ubuntu b) Something else.
[11:19] <sam22> hail !! people !
[11:19] <bullgard4> kanout: Please do not select option a.)
[11:19] <sam22> o/
[11:20] <kanout> ok
[11:20] <foul_owl> where can i download the deb for lucid network-manager-gnome
[11:20] <sam22> foul_owl minimum installation ?
[11:20] <foul_owl> i just need that package
[11:20] <kanout> but shouldn't be recognizing the win 7 os?
[11:20] <foul_owl> that deb, by itself
[11:20] <bullgard4> foul_owl: From the official Ubuntu repositories.
[11:20] <foul_owl> how?
[11:21] <foul_owl> i don't have internet access on that computer, i have to download the deb manually on one comptuer and transfer it with a flash drive
[11:21] <ogra_> foul_owl, why ?
[11:21] <oCean> foul_owl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/network-manager-gnome
[11:21] <bullgard4> kanout: It should. I have heard complaints now and then that some Ubuntu installers do not recognize an existing Windows installation.
[11:22] <ogra_> foul_owl, did you do a desktop install on that machine ? then network manager is already installed, reinstalling the same package wont change a thing
[11:22] <foul_owl> thank you oCean
[11:22] <ogra_> better find out why it doesnt start
[11:22] <foul_owl> someone suggested i reinstall it
[11:22] <foul_owl> now it is uninstalled
[11:22] <sam22> what's wrong with it ?
[11:22] <sam22> broken?
[11:22] <foul_owl> my problem is this: nm-applet starts but does not show up
[11:22] <ogra_> ah, if you manually uninstalled then indeed it wont work :)
[11:22] <sam22> foul_owl you are running server installation ?
[11:22] <dalek_> I am trying to install iPass client connect in wine.... It says "Database support not found. Your system must meet the following minimum system requirements: 1) Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or higher 2) Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP SP1 3) 16-bit color mode (65536 colors) 4) Microsoft ADO version 2.0 or higher must be Installed" How do I fix this?
[11:22] <foul_owl> before that though
[11:23] <foul_owl> before i uninstalled it, i would run nm-applet, and it would be running, but the applet would not appear anywhere
[11:23] <oCean> dalek_: support for programs in wine is in #winehq channel
[11:23] <foul_owl> how do i force an xorg program to appear on the screen
[11:23] <ogra_> you never run nm.-applet manually ... the session starts it automatically ... better check your logs
[11:23] <foul_owl> but you still can run it manually
[11:23] <dr_willis> dalek_:  you may want to check the wine app database.  if it needs IE%+ theres  the various features of winetricks that may be needed.
[11:24] <foul_owl> even when it starts automatically it doen't show up
[11:24] <ogra_> manually starting it wont gain you anything ... try to find out whats blocking it
[11:24] <foul_owl> its running when i log into gnome
[11:24] <oCean> !away > zkriesse_away
[11:24] <ogra_> you probably tweaked your panel then
[11:24] <dr_willis> foul_owl:  so what desktop are you using?
[11:24] <foul_owl> but it doesn't show up anywhere, and i can't add it to the panel, it doesn't show up in the list of applets to add to the panel
[11:24] <foul_owl> gnome
[11:24] <ogra_> and removed the system tray
[11:24] <ogra_> so you wont see it
[11:25] <sam22> foul_owl remove it and install it again ?
[11:25] <ogra_> add a new system tray (right click on the panel) and see if it shows up then
[11:25] <ogra_> sam22, what would that solve ?
[11:25] <foul_owl> add to panel?
[11:25] <raptor67682> which fonts are the lower of windows 98 ?
[11:25] <ogra_> foul_owl, right
[11:25] <Xbert> how can I display what mount options a device was mounted with?
[11:26] <dalek_> dr_willis, I can't find anything mentioning IE in winetricks anywhere. Where do I look?
[11:26] <ogra_> foul_owl, rand find the systray applet
[11:26] <ogra_> *and
[11:26] <llutz> Xbert: "mount"
[11:26] <foul_owl> in the find box i typed sys but there is nothing
[11:26] <foul_owl> i typed tray but there is nothing
[11:26] <ogra_> might be called system tray or some such
[11:26] <foul_owl> i don't see any sort of tray
[11:27]  * ogra_ forgot how the applet is actually called ... its ages ago i used gnome
[11:27] <foul_owl> oh, notification area
[11:27] <foul_owl> i found it
[11:27] <ogra_> ah. yeah
[11:27] <foul_owl> no, i already have one, it's already showing icons
[11:27] <ogra_> ok
[11:27] <llutz> Xbert: or cat /proc/mounts
[11:27] <dr_willis> !appdb | dalek_
[11:27] <ogra_> then look for nm.applet messages in ~/.xsession-errors
[11:27] <ogra_> *nm-applet
[11:28] <foul_owl> already did, there are none
[11:28] <foul_owl> what i want to know is: why can't i connect to the internet using the network manager?
[11:28] <foul_owl> or can i?
[11:28] <ogra_> because you cant click the applet :)
[11:28] <foul_owl> er...why does it depend on the applet
[11:28] <ogra_> ask the network manager devs :)
[11:29] <foul_owl> why isn't there a connect button in the network manager, or is there?
[11:29] <ogra_> there isnt
[11:29] <foul_owl> haha maybe i will suggest it
[11:29] <ogra_> you just click on the wlan it lists and it will connect
[11:29] <ogra_> there is no specific button for that
[11:30] <raptor67682>  which fonts are the lower of windows 98 ?
[11:30] <foul_owl> ok, so how do i force an xorg app to appear on the screen
[11:30] <foul_owl> can i send it a signal?
[11:30] <foul_owl> if nm-applet is running, but it wont appear in the tray
[11:31] <foul_owl> there has to be some way to maximize it or restore it or whatever
[11:31] <raptor67682> of hte lower taskbar of windows 98?
[11:31] <raptor67682> which fonts are of hte lower taskbar of windows 98?
[11:31] <oCean> raptor67682: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[11:31] <ogra_> there isnt, it should automatically register in the notification area once it got started by the session manager
[11:31] <raptor67682> yes and not. it is a desktop issue
[11:31] <oCean> raptor67682: this channel is for ubuntu only
[11:32] <foul_owl> i can tell you what led to this, maybe taht will shed some clues
[11:32] <foul_owl> i did a sudo apt-get update, upgrade
[11:32] <foul_owl> then rebooted
[11:32] <foul_owl> then this problem started
[11:32] <oCean> !enter | foul_owl
[11:32] <foul_owl> sorry!
[11:32] <sam22> foul_owl anything showed up on the desktop telling you to delete a broken applet ?
[11:32] <sam22> wen you rebooted
[11:33] <dalek_> dr_willis, #winehq channel is nearly always dead. I can find no useful info at winehq. The only thing I have been able to find is http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=58447&sid=bdf7395d07a340a90419121a5e4035b0 I have come to this IRC channel as my last avenue of support.
[11:33] <Snowie> ok, so i have found a post that i think will solve my pulseaudio/jack sync issues. nut the images on it are dead. any help appreciated
[11:33] <foul_owl> it complained about the power manager applet, but then i rebooted again and it stopped complaining about it
[11:33] <oCean> dalek_: this channel does not provide support for apps ON wine, sorry
[11:33] <Snowie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470407
[11:33] <ogra_> do you user any third party repositories ?
[11:33] <ogra_> (PPAs or so)
[11:33] <foul_owl> i use the firefox one
[11:33] <ogra_> from wheer you could have gotten a different nm-applet
[11:33] <oCean> !who | ogra_
[11:34] <foul_owl> no, just the firefox one
[11:34] <ogra_> oCean, well, foul_owl obviously got that i talked to him :) but i'll obey :)
[11:34] <dalek_> oCean it would be nice if the #winehq channel did once in a while though ;)
[11:34] <a333> :D
[11:35] <foul_owl> is there any other network manager i could install besides the gnome one? i hate the gnome one haha
[11:35] <ogra_> foul_owl, there is wicd
[11:35] <ogra_> in universe...
[11:35] <foul_owl> that doesn't depend on nm-applet?
[11:35] <oCean> dalek_: yes, but that is out of our responsibility
[11:35] <ManDay> Hello. Would it be difficult to make a live-image of ubuntu, based upon the regular ISO and permanently install a program on it and also make it persistent in that you can store files to a filesystem?
[11:35]  * ogra_ heard that some people like it, i never tried it myself
[11:36] <ManDay> is there perhaps a tutorial about that?
[11:36] <ogra_> foul_owl, iirc you need to uninstall NM for it to work
[11:36] <oCean> !remaster | ManDay
[11:36] <foul_owl> thanks! i will give that a try. network manager is already uninstalled haha
[11:36] <ManDay> thanks oCean
[11:36] <foul_owl> i will need to locate the deb and then copy it over with a flash drive though :(
[11:36] <ogra_> foul_owl, erm, didnt you say you see nm-applet running all the time ?
[11:37] <foul_owl> i did before i uninstalled it. i had a system tray the whole time too
[11:37] <warlock_handler> hi i need to rip off the audio of a video file.. and only keep the video.. any idea how can i do this?? been googling for a while now
[11:37] <ogra_> foul_owl, nm-applet will indeed not show anything if network-manager itself isnt installed, it needs to connect to it in the backend
[11:37] <ogra_> the applet is just the UI part
[11:37] <foul_owl> i mean, both were installed and running
[11:37] <ogra_> k
[11:38] <foul_owl> everything worked fine until i rebooted haha
[11:38] <foul_owl> then nm-applet stopped showing up. after that i uninstalled the package network-manager-gnome
[11:38] <ManDay> oCean: What about the part where I want the LiveCD to offer persistence?
[11:38] <sam22> guys i did a server installation and now the little keyboard applet doesnt show 3 letters for the selected language
[11:38] <sam22> is that normal?
[11:38] <sam22> i know it shows on a desktop installation of ubuntu
[11:39] <foul_owl> do you know where to find the lucid deb for wicd?
[11:41] <dr_willis> foul_owl:  somwehere under  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:42] <foul_owl> thank you
[11:42] <foul_owl> i will try this and see what happens
[11:42] <dr_willis> you could try running some dock that has a indicator applet area. It may show up in it.. i dont know what all you hae done.
[11:42] <foul_owl> is the dock built into gnome? i don't have internet so its hard to install anything
[11:43] <dr_willis> dependng on how you are networked.. you can connect via the various cli tools.
[11:43] <foul_owl> wpa2
[11:44] <foul_owl> already tried it, got a NO_KEY error or something
[11:44] <foul_owl> spent about an hour following various tutorials. unless you have a tutorial that works
[11:44] <dr_willis> I havent used wireless much in ages.
[11:44] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com would be where i would look.
[11:45] <XeonBloomfield> How to run script after "apt-get install" or "apt-get upgrade" automatically?
[11:45] <foul_owl> thanks!
[11:45] <dr_willis> XeonBloomfield:  what sort of script?
[11:45] <XeonBloomfield> dr_willis: print in console "Running prelink, please wait..." and "/etc/cron.daily/prelink"
[11:45] <foul_owl> i really appreciate the help everyone. i'm going to try reinstalling the gnome network manager, then try wicd, then try again at connecting via command line. cheers!
[11:46] <dr_willis> if prelink is running daily anyway.. why does it matter?
[11:46] <dr_willis> make an alias i guess or a little script that does your apt-get upgrade, then runs the prelink stuff.
[11:47] <XeonBloomfield> dr_willis: because I want to prelink installed soft immediately, not after e.g. 10h
[11:48] <dr_willis> make an alias, or script i guess..
[11:48] <dragomir> good morning everyone. I have ubuntu 10.04 and I copied some files using the gui from an external hard drive to home/desktop using sudo nautilus. the folder shows up in sudo nautilus but not on my regular desktop. very strange. can someone please help me?
[11:48] <dr_willis> dragomir:  if you used sudo, then the files are most likely owned by root. check your Desktop file via cli. and see if they are there.
[11:49] <dragomir> yes, they are there dr_willis
[11:49] <dr_willis> dragomir:  if you want your user to access them. You need to chown them to be owned by your user.
[11:49] <dragomir> all I wanted to accomplish was to copy these files to my desktop from this external hard drive, wipe and reformat the drive to hsf using gparted, then put the files back on the external hard drive.
[11:49] <dr_willis> dragomir:  what filesystem is on the external disK?
[11:50] <dragomir> fat32
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> oh jeez
[11:50] <dragomir> mac - lion wasnt seeing the disk
[11:50] <dr_willis> if you mounted it with the right options, you wouldent need to use 'sudo nautlils' to access them.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: do yu have files larger than 4Gb?
[11:50] <dr_willis> No idea on mac's :)
[11:50] <dragomir> yes, the folder is 60GB total
[11:51] <dr_willis> dragomir:  any single file bigger then 4gb?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: the folder is moot, do you have any FILES larger than 4Gb was the question...
[11:51] <dragomir> dr_willis, i dont think so.
[11:51] <dr_willis> if the disk is fat32 ;) i dont think he could.
[11:51] <dragomir> ActionParsnip, checking now
[11:51] <dragomir> dr_willis, your right
[11:51] <dragomir> I dont think so
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: FAT32 has a maximum file size of 4Gb
[11:51] <dr_willis> so ive missed the whole problem now.. :) the files are there...
[11:51] <dragomir> ActionParsnip, yes you are right
[11:51] <dr_willis> owned by root...
[11:52] <GirlyGirl> You can always back a block file with dd and mount it then copy and paste files
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: you will need to set the access when you mount the partition to give access to all, or you can make it dead easy and run:  gksudo nautilus       and copy the files over
[11:52] <dragomir> dr_willis, so how would you suggest I copy them over to my computer? when I copied and pasted after mounting, it said i didnt have permission
[11:52] <dragomir> sorry everyone, i am still very new to ubuntu
[11:53] <bullgard4> »~$ ps faux | grep gvfsd-cdda; /usr/lib/gvfs-cdda --spawner :1.1 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/3«. What does "spawner" here mean?
[11:53] <dr_willis> dragomir:  they are owned by root.. so you ned to use root to either chown them to be owned by your user. or mount the filesystem where users can access it so you dont need to do 'sudo nautiuls' any more
[11:53] <dr_willis> !permissions
[11:54] <dragomir> thank you everyone for all of your help
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: gksudo nautilus    will run the file manager as root, and give you the access you need, you will need to repeat when you are restoring the data then chown the files to your user
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: man gvfs-cdda     should tell you
[11:54] <dr_willis> 'gksudo nautilus' is the sort of thing, you really shouldent be doing.. unless you understand the implications. :)
[11:55] <dragomir> thank you ActionParsnip what I had originally did was sudo nautilus 2 different file browsers, then copied the files from drive to desktop
[11:55] <dr_willis> ive seen people in here break things via running  Nautilus as root..
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: use gksudo with gui appslike nautilus, not sudo
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> *apps like
[11:55] <dr_willis> dragomir:  a single nautilus window - hit F3 == it will split into '2' windows I think. :)
[11:55] <dragomir> in CLI all I type is gksudo nautilus?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: or alt+f2 dialogue, either is fine
[11:56] <dragomir> ActionParsnip, thanks again
[11:56] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: '~$ man gvfs-cdda' tells me: "No manual entry for gvfs-cdda exists."
[11:56] <dragomir> dr_willis, i appreciate all your help
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> dragomir: the files will be owned by root, so when you copy back you will need to chown the files to your user
[11:57] <EMKO> Does Photoshop run on Linux?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: what does the command do
[11:57] <Gentoo64> EMKO: no
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | EMKO
[11:57] <EMKO> :(
[11:57] <dragomir> ActionParsnip, I am learning about chown now using link from dr_willis
[11:57] <Gentoo64> EMKO: ive seen it working in wine
[11:57] <Gentoo64> so your not out of luck
[11:57] <EMKO> Oh
[11:57] <dr_willis> EMKO:  given its a complex windows app.... :) its not supriseing
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> EMKO: v12 gets  a gold rating
[11:58] <EMKO> Oh thanks
[11:58] <dawciupotter> !Windows
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> EMKO: I suggest Gimp instead
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> EMKO: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=17
[11:58] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I do not know. I presume it is a daemon that is started when inserting a CD.
[11:59] <raven> ltsp - possible to boot the installed system on machine a on thin client b?
[11:59] <EMKO> I will give wine a try thanks
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: all the first part does is grep the running processes, so the next part must be a command, although it has no man page, very strange
[12:00] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: The GNOME Project often is lagging in documentation.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: lacking ;)
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: could switch to kde I guess
[12:02] <dragomir> is there a gui way to change file permissions?
[12:02] <ubuntu-for-me> hi,i'm using lispbox on ubuntu,but i just don't know how to install it. i open the file"emacs",only to find there'is not "install" file?
[12:02] <Gentoo64> dragomir: right click i think in the file manager (as root) but chown is better
[12:02] <bullgard4> dragomir: Yes. Use Nautilus.
[12:03] <dragomir> thank you
[12:03] <dr_willis> !permissions
[12:03] <sam22> guys.. the keyboard applet is not showing 3 letters when i select a language
[12:03] <sam22> just a keybaord icon only
[12:03] <sam22> how to fix it ?
[12:04] <dragomir> dr_willis, i got the file permissions link open the first time. I have it open right now, and I didn't see any mention of GUI access.
[12:05] <dr_willis> dragomir:  i alwyas use the command line to adjust permissions and ownership.
[12:05] <dragomir> dr_willis, yea it seems more thorough, but I am afraid of doing something wrong.
[12:06] <dr_willis> the ntfs-config tool can set some settings where external vfat/ntfs disks (or internal) get mounted where users have full access.. your sudo nautilus would not have been needed
[12:06] <dragomir> in sudo nautilus, if i browser to the folder containing the files, right click and go to permissions, it says the owner to be root. What would I change it to so that no one is the owner and everyone has read/write permissions?
[12:07] <dr_willis> to the name of your user.
[12:07] <dragomir> ok
[12:08] <dragomir> dr_willis, but once I reformat the external drive to hsf, I plan on copying the files back over to the drive to be used on another computer (mac) with a different username
[12:08] <dragomir> will it matter? will the file permissions be open for everyone if it is set to my user as the owner?
[12:08] <ubuntu_> If do '# mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 missing'  I get this error: mdadm: device /dev/sdb1 not suitable for any style of array. Any idea?
[12:09] <ubuntu-for-me> dr_willis, hi,i'm using lispbox on ubuntu,but i just don't know how to install it. i open the file"emacs",only to find there'is not "install" file?
[12:09] <hc96> Hi! See the fonts in the screenshot http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/kkheb8lf/gitk.emacs.d_001.png . I don't know wether it's due to tk or gitk, how could I check that?
[12:10] <matrixiumn> helli
[12:10] <xukun> If do '# mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 missing'  I get this error: mdadm: device /dev/sdb1 not suitable for any style of array. Any idea?
[12:10] <matrixiumn> *hello
[12:10] <xukun> sorry
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-for-me: http://collectivegoods.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/lispbox-ubuntu/
[12:11] <ubuntu-for-me> thank you
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu-for-me: I don't use the software, I just searched and found that.....
[12:12] <ubuntu-for-me> i find it usful :)
[12:12] <dr_willis> ubuntu-for-me:  never heard of lispbox. havent used emacs in like 10+ yrs...
[12:13] <dr_willis> !info lispbox
[12:14] <melvincv> HI all, will enabling the root account in Ubuntu 11.04 cause any application to malfunction?
[12:15] <dragomir> gksudo nautilus i tried changing the permissions to my username but in file access it wont let me set any preference. in folder access it is set to create and delete. when i tried to move the folder desktop on root, to my user desktop i got a permissions error
[12:15] <melvincv> Or will it affect the system adversely in any way?
[12:15] <somsip> !root no but, | melvincv
[12:15] <sam22> ubottu
[12:16] <frogonwheels> melvincv: the root account is only disabled for logging in.  Having a password on root is Not The Ubuntu Way.
[12:16] <frogonwheels> !root | melvincv
[12:17] <ubuntu-for-me> dr_willis, i'm looking the book   practical common lisp by Peter,and i download an slime and use it ,"C-c C-c" and other keg-g ,it always say"unconnect",so i use lisp in a box that he recommend in chapter1
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: it won't cause malfunction but its not wise in a security way, nor is it needed at all
[12:18] <ubuntu-for-me> dr_willis, i thought when i used using it,i 'll take slime
[12:18] <melvincv> Thanks bot ;) Is it safe to  # sudo su?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: sudo -i     is advised, but: sudo su     will work
[12:20] <melvincv> # sudo -i   does the same function, right?
[12:21] <melvincv> $ sudo -i         oops...
[12:22] <dr_willis> melvincv:  its a bit pointles to do sudo su. :)  use sudo witht eh proper options as needed.
[12:23] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[12:24] <asiekierka> hey
[12:24] <asiekierka_> ubuntu 10.10, how to retrieve a stored wifi password?
[12:24] <asiekierka_> as in the wifi password is stored and saved, how to get it out
[12:24] <melvincv> I didn't understand from the man page what exactly $ sudo -i does... someone plz explain?
[12:25] <dr_willis> gives you a root shell,
[12:25] <ikonia> melvincv: it gives you a shell as a privileges user
[12:25] <warfaren> you can go to wireless settings and check show password
[12:25] <warfaren> can't check exactly how now cuz i'm not on ubuntu atm
[12:26] <dragomir> dr_willis, did you give up on me?
[12:26] <melvincv> Thanks guys :) Have a nice day!
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: (i)neteractive sudo
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> asiekierka: maybe in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[12:28] <asiekierka> warfaren thanks
[12:29] <dr_willis> dragomir:  i dont even recall the issue..
[12:29] <melvincv> 1 more thing: I wonder where the 'Authentication' GUI for polkit went?
[12:29] <warfaren> np, hope you found it
[12:29] <dragomir> dr_willis, its OK, thanks anyways.
[12:37] <raptor67682> hello would you know how to change the changing /var/spool/mail/$USER to the one of mutt
[12:37] <dr_willis> 'change the changeing' ?
[12:37] <raptor67682> sorry how to change /var/spool/mail/$USER to the one of mutt
[12:38] <raptor67682> mutt has I guess all stuffs into ~/Mail
[12:38] <dr_willis> $USER would be a variable. thats the currently running user.
[12:38] <dr_willis> :~$ echo $USER
[12:38] <dr_willis> willis
[12:38] <michael> sdf
[12:38] <michael> hi
[12:38] <raptor67682>  the default one is /var/spool/mail/. and in cli some use this
[12:39] <raptor67682> thus ,  how to change /var/spool/mail/$USER to the one of mutt
[12:40] <dr_willis> mutt seems to use several system variables.
[12:40] <dr_willis> http://www.mutt.org/doc/man_page.html
[12:44] <sam22> is there a way to disable ubuntu power management ?
[12:44] <sam22> what happens if i stop it from starting up ?
[12:44] <Kyle6513> is it possible from terminal to transfer a currently running application to a screen so I can log out of my SSH without closing the application half-way through?
[12:45] <dr_willis> Kyle6513:  you mean move from a non screen terminal, to a screen session?
[12:45] <sam22> ok ignore my question.. problem solved
[12:45] <Kyle6513> indeed, I'm SSH'd into my server and a python script is taking longer to execute than I expected.
[12:45] <dr_willis> or you mean 'screen' as in a windows X display?
[12:45] <dr_willis> Kyle6513:  not sure of any way to move a allerady started app over to screen.
[12:46] <Kyle6513> dr_willis, screen session I believe.
[12:46] <Kyle6513> dr_willis, alright, thanks anyway (:
[12:46] <dr_willis> it  might be possible to use nohup, and job controll to move to the background.. but ive not seen a way to detatch/reattach that way
[12:46] <dr_willis> I alwyas set byobu  to start by default
[12:47] <Kyle6513> heh, yeah. I thought this would take about 10 minutes so I didn't think I would need to worry.
[12:48] <Kyle6513> dr_willis, for reference's sake, I found something. http://serverfault.com/questions/55880/moving-an-already-running-process-to-screen
[12:49] <dr_willis> screen/byobu is to handy to not start by default. :)
[12:49] <Kyle6513> dr_willis, I know, I know :P
[12:52] <dr_willis> Hmm.. interesting artical on the 'dumbing down of guis' :) http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/9/2616204/the-condescending-ui
[12:54] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD says 'unmountable drive' on entering password?
[12:56] <HQRaja> Is there a way to get the Ubuntu Studio style login screen on Ubuntu?
[12:56] <HQRaja> I'm in love with that login screen but I don't really need the rest of Ubuntu Studio
[12:57] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  most likely a theme for whatever login manager they use.
[12:57] <HQRaja> BTW the title of that Login Screen (in the screenshot) says 'GDM Login'
[12:57] <HQRaja> Is that the name of the Login Manager?
[12:57] <dr_willis> soits a gdm theme.
[12:57] <dr_willis> GDM is a login manager yes.
[12:57] <HQRaja> I see...and does Ubuntu ship with the same login manager using a different theme, or an altogether different login manager?
[12:57] <amin`>  i just finished installing lubuntu and let me say it is Nice
[12:57] <dr_willis> 11.10 uses lightdm.. older relkeases use gdm
[12:58] <tootac> tootac
[12:58] <amin`> and I want to ask what package it uses for notifications " like when networkmanager connect to a wireless connection and or when GNOME Mplayer opens a file"
[12:58] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Oh OK, so I'll first have to replace my lightdm with GDM...is that process easy? (I come from a Windows background...very recently switched to Ubuntu)
[12:59] <HQRaja> BTW this is the screen: http://ubuntustudio.org/files/US3.png
[12:59] <HQRaja> Isn't it gorgeous?
[12:59] <dr_willis> it may be better time spent learning ubuntu basics and how things work. then worrying about a login screen you see for 5 seconds. :)
[12:59] <ServerTechLaptop> anyone has something for me? D: im asking the same thing for 4 days now
[13:00] <dr_willis> looks overly cluttered to me HQRaja
[13:00] <jrib> !helpme | ServerTechLaptop
[13:00] <HQRaja> Heh true that...so far the transition has been smooth :) I have it setup and working exactly the way I want, and have found all the apps I needed
[13:00] <dr_willis> You can esially change the wallpaper for the lightdm login screen ifyou wanted.
[13:00] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Well seems pretty slick to me
[13:01] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Well, it's that horizontal, across-the-screen style login bar that I want...don't care too much about that wallpaper in fact
[13:01] <dr_willis> i dont see much point in fancy login screens.. Now if actually had some usefull features like a weather applet/news ticker.. :)
[13:01] <jrib> dr_willis: or tonight's lotto numbers
[13:01] <dr_willis> looks to me like its just how the wallpaper is made that makes that 'bar' seem like a bar.
[13:01] <dr_willis> !info gdm
[13:02] <HQRaja> Oh OK...I thought it's the whole bar laid out over the wallpaper
[13:02] <dr_willis> install gdm. select gdm as your default login manager.. find whatever ubuntu-studio theme packages are in the repos.
[13:02] <blackbit> !repeat
[13:02] <HQRaja> BTW is it possible that there'd be a theme similar to this one out there for lightdm? I mean, is there some active theming going on for lightdm?
[13:02] <dr_willis> GDM2 was decently themeable. gdm3 - not as much.. now ubuntu is defaulting to lightdm.
[13:03] <dr_willis> no idea how themeable lightdm is at this time.
[13:03] <dr_willis> I just chagne its wallpaper.
[13:03] <HQRaja> I see
[13:03] <HQRaja> Thanks for the info...I'll try looking up info on theming lightdm now :)
[13:03] <dr_willis> theres other login managers that have more features.
[13:03] <dr_willis> !info slim
[13:04] <Kyle6513> I think the problem with that would be dr_willis is that the specific theme package that HQRaja wants, wouldn't be supported by those managers.
[13:04] <dr_willis> if hw just wants the layout. not the acutal wallpaper/images..  he could find somthing similer i imagine.
[13:05] <HQRaja> Yeah I just want that (or a similar) layout...not necessarily the exact same theme (in fact I wouldn't want it saying ubuntu studio)
[13:05] <HQRaja> Just that sort of a slick, across-the-screen horizontal interface, with a wallpaper of my choice
[13:05] <dr_willis> i had the login screen tweaked year ago with animated wallpaper. and htop in a transparent terminal.. and other useless stuff. :)
[13:06] <Satyr_> Heyguys I am tryingto make java always run with padsp. So I used "mv /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java.bin"
[13:06] <dr_willis> years ago.
[13:06] <Satyr_> Then I said /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/ sh
[13:06] <pfifo> useless stuff is awesome
[13:06] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Wouldn't a terminal on the login screen defeat the purpose of having to login to get access to the system?
[13:06] <Kyle6513> I would assume the terminal would have a login prompt.
[13:06] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  for my single user system.. its not an issue.. unless the dog wanted to get on...
[13:06] <HQRaja> Oh OK
[13:06] <HQRaja> Heh
[13:06] <Kyle6513> or not. :P
[13:06] <Satyr_> And I am trying to tell it to now do padsp /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java.bin "$@" but it is not working
[13:06] <dr_willis> the term just ran 'htop'
[13:07] <Satyr_> Any recommendations?
[13:07] <Satyr_> Anyone?
[13:08] <Luc_> need help with cp
[13:08] <dr_willis> i dont do much java. so no idea. Satyr_
[13:08] <dr_willis> Luc_:  and the problem is?
[13:08] <Satyr_> :( Sad day.
[13:09] <Satyr_> I am just going to undo it lol
[13:09] <Luc_> I want to copy all files and subdirs into another directory, which does not exist, so create, and rename all the files into filename.bac. Can that be done ?
[13:10] <dr_willis> not with just one command i imagine Luc_
[13:11] <dr_willis> you could most likely make a simple script.
[13:11] <dr_willis> if you are copying them ALL to a backup directory.. wny not just make the directory name  whatever_Backups
[13:11] <pfifo> use mkdir to make the directory before hand
[13:11] <dr_willis> i dont se emuch point in renameing every file
[13:12] <Luc_> Tried, but then get the message, can not copy backup into its own directory
[13:13] <dr_willis> tried what exactly?
[13:14] <gunfire007> how to enable modules ?
[13:14] <dr_willis> gunfire007:  what modules?
[13:14] <Luc_> cp -R * /home/luc/backup
[13:15] <dr_willis> Luc_:  i beliuve cp has a -P or -p optiuon to make directorys
[13:15] <Luc_> gone try
[13:15] <pppurple> how do you change ubuntu themes?
[13:15] <dr_willis> or was that mkdir.
[13:15] <dr_willis> pppurple:  depends on what windowmanager/desktop you are using
[13:15] <rhinos> < on ubuntu server here, learning, how do i check if i got apache2 working?
[13:16] <pfifo> dr_willis, cp dosent have a -p or -P that does that
[13:16] <dr_willis> mkdir -p /make/all/the/sub/dirs/to/make/this
[13:16] <dr_willis> its mkdir :)
[13:16] <jrib> rhinos: how did you try?
[13:16] <gunfire007> dr_willis: it'for powersaving for optimus technology...
[13:16] <rhinos> apt-get install apache2
[13:16] <rhinos> times out
[13:16] <pfifo> Luc_, why dont you just make a tarball instead of copying all the files?
[13:16] <wk> Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me with my keyboard backlights on my Asus G74SX?
[13:16] <jrib> rhinos: pastebin full output
[13:16] <gunfire007> dr_willis: do ubuntu provide support for optimus technology graphic cards ?
[13:16] <llutz> dr_willis: cp --parents
[13:17] <dr_willis> gunfire007:  its a work in progress due to lack of support from the makers i gather.
[13:17] <sam22> anyone knows how to remove notify-osd " notify on screen display " ?
[13:17] <rhinos> ??im pretty new
[13:17] <Luc_> what's a tarball? not working that long with ubuntu
[13:17] <jrib> !pastebin | rhinos
[13:17] <dr_willis> !tar | Luc_
[13:17] <dr_willis> !backup | Luc_
[13:18] <Luc_> thx folks !!
[13:18] <pfifo> Luc_, a tarball is an archive like a .zip file
[13:18] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering password?
[13:18] <Dikadrah> fr.powanet.org
[13:18] <Luc_> ah, ok. But files may not be archived
[13:19] <Luc_> just extensions must be renamed
[13:19] <rhinos> jrib yea just installed the server, using another computer to use net
[13:19] <gunfire007> so for that which flavor i should use xubuntu or lubuntu ?
[13:19] <jrib> rhinos: pastebin full output
[13:19] <rhinos> cant really paste whats going on :(
[13:20] <gunfire007> dr_willis: so for that which flavor i should use xubuntu or lubuntu ?
[13:20] <jrib> rhinos: does the server not have internet access?
[13:20] <dr_willis> gunfire007:  support for the video cards would be independant of what desktop you are using.
[13:21] <dr_willis> if you are needing a minimal old-skool type desktop Lubuntu works well.
[13:21] <rhinos> i checked the cable. its all good
[13:21] <OerHeks> rhinos > sudo service apache2 status
[13:21] <gunfire007> dr_willis: i am looking for a desktop which is power saver on my notebook.
[13:21] <gunfire007> so for that which one should i use ?
[13:21] <cgtdk> gunfire007: Lubuntu
[13:21] <gunfire007> whcih flavor lxde or xfce ?
[13:21] <rhinos> Apache2 is running (pid 825)
[13:21] <gunfire007> cgtdk: ok..
[13:22] <jrib> rhinos: you need to show us what output you were talking about before when you said the install timed out...
[13:23] <rhinos> is there a channel we can go to?
[13:23] <jrib> rhinos: better to stay here so everyone can help
[13:23] <rhinos> just want to get to the stage where i can see my page through apache,
[13:24] <rhinos> tried setting a static ip and looking at it/pinging it but it times out
[13:24] <rhinos> both comps connected to same router
[13:24] <jrib> rhinos: ok.  But you mentioned an error/timeout of some sort.  I have no idea what you are referring to.  So I've asked you to pastebin the entire output from apt-get install.  I'll wait for you to do this.
[13:25] <rhinos> haha i cant
[13:25] <wk> Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me with my keyboard backlights on my Asus G74SX?
[13:25] <rhinos> too noob
[13:25] <jrib> rhinos: type it in if you must
[13:26] <rhinos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765865/
[13:27] <jrib> rhinos: what's the blablabla
[13:28] <rhinos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765866/
[13:29] <rhinos> how do i find my local ip??
[13:30] <jrib> rhinos: can you get to au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?  Did you try installing again afterwards and did you get the same output?
[13:30] <jrib> rhinos: ifconfig
[13:30] <walter_> llist
[13:30] <alextum3> rhinos ip addr
[13:31] <rhinos> nah i cant get to au.archive i dont think
[13:32] <rhinos> i try pinging the server times out. and server doesnt ping elsewhere. but connections are all good
[13:32] <wk> Hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me with my keyboard backlights on my Asus G74SX. Thanks
[13:34] <net4life> hi
[13:34] <net4life> Is there among you who are citizens of Italian?
[13:34] <pfifo> !it | net4life
[13:35] <Ville-> !fi | Ville-
[13:35] <net4life> thanks
[13:35] <sam22> anyone in here knows how to stop notification-daemon from starting up ?
[13:35] <rhinos> can anyone help me with my networking issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/765871/
[13:36] <pfifo> sam22, the script 'update-rc.d' is used to manage startup services
[13:36] <alextum3> rhinos, please paste ifconfig output
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: can you access other websites ok?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> wk: if you hibernate, then wake up, it works
[13:39] <rhinos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765876/
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> wk: http://raypendergraph.wikidot.com/running-linux-on-the-asus-g74sx
[13:40] <wk> ActionParsnip: That didn't work.
[13:40] <kundancool> Hi, I want to know is there any software/method to route audio from line-in jack instead of speaker output jack
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> wk: https://launchpad.net/asus-keyboard-backlight
[13:41] <wk> ActionParsnip: I have already googled and looked for any solutions but haven't found one yet.
[13:41] <wk> And there has to be other fixes than hibernating and waking it up everytime I boot my laptop up
[13:42] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[13:42] <sam22> anyone in here can help me disable notification-daemon ?
[13:42] <sam22> notify-osd is the newer replacement for notification-daemon which i uninstalled
[13:42] <sam22> but now notification-daemon tookover
[13:42] <koopa58> test
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> wk:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:flozz/flozz; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install asus-kbd-backlight       supports that package up to Maverick
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !test | koopa58
[13:43] <wk> ActionParsnip: Up to maverick? I'm running 11.04
[13:43] <koopa58> ActionParsnip: new client :)
[13:43] <wk> Maverick is 10.10 I believe.
[13:43] <kundancool> can anyone help me with routing audio from line-in jack instead of speaker output jack	
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> wk: could compile source, or contact the maintainer to see if there is scope to support later versions (or if it's needed)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> wk: yes maverick == 10.10
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> wk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1882689
[13:46] <wk> sometimes linux can be a pain in the ass! ;)
[13:46] <sam22> anyone in here can help me disable notification-daemon ?
[13:46] <sam22> or to remove it
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:47] <indystorm> yo any hotties in here?
[13:47] <bazhang> indystorm, wrong channel
[13:48] <sidney> indystorm, same question last night
[13:50] <JaredKz> is there a debian support channe?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> wk: proprietary ACPI garbage is a bigger pain in the ass
[13:50] <bazhang> #debian JaredKz
[13:51] <siddharth> yep
[13:51] <JaredKz> thx
[13:51] <wk> ActionParsnip: added the repository, did apt-get update, couldn't find asus-kbd-backlight
[13:51] <BluesKaj> gotta be desperate, looking for hotties in this room , indystorm :)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> wk: well yeah, your release isn't catered for in the repo
[13:52] <wk> Ffffff...
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> wk: you will need to ask the maintainer if they have any plans to support Natty, or the feature may already be in the kernel and you need an option
[13:53] <sidney> Ok I have wasted much to much time getting this thing to update. And I was considering putting 10.04 on a intel 2600K
[13:54] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+disable+notification-daemon
[13:55] <dr_willis> seems to have some interesting info on notification deamon.
[13:55] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/81459/can-i-run-notifyosd-in-gnome  first answer seems togive a way to disable it.
[13:56] <pppurple> any one have a link on how i can boot a usb to hold two different bootable ubuntu versions?
[13:56] <dr_willis> pppurple:  you would set up one to handle the grub. and   it should work.  - i dont see the point in having 2 differnt ubuntu versions on teh same flash.
[13:57] <dr_willis> You can do a full install to flash. same as you would an internal drive.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> pppurple: if you have windows you can use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[13:57] <rhinos> Ive been messing around with my network settings is there an easy way to go back to defaults?
[13:57] <dr_willis> the second one installed would try to take over grub. so that would be the one that would manage grub by default
[13:58] <dr_willis> pppurple:  so a live install? or a full install? you can set grub2 up to boot differnt ISO files - if you wanted also..
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: how have you been manipulating them?
[13:58] <pppurple> i only have 1 USB thumb stick and i have 11.10 and want to put a stable version of ubuntu onto that stick as well
[13:58] <pfifo> !away > hipitihop-away
[13:58] <dr_willis> pppurple:  whats so unstable abouyt 11.10 for you?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> pppurple: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/
[13:58] <wk> ActionParsnip: I see that these patches are for the 2.6.39 kernel.. 11.04 comes with the 2.6.38, would it work to change it? http://scottsautorepair.net/microsoft.sucks/G73SW.keyboard.lights.html
[13:58] <pppurple> dr_willis, i wanted it to hold 2 different ISO...so i can have 2 different live versions
[13:59] <rhinos> changed DNS /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts cant remember default
[13:59] <dr_willis> pppurple:  you would have to reparton the thing and make a new ext4 partion to isntallto. then start up the installer  and install.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> wk: worth a try
[13:59] <pppurple> dr_willis, no its just my first time with linux and wanted to see if there was a differnce or get a copy with out unity to see how it works
[13:59] <dr_willis> pppurple:  for iso's theres guides on pendrivelinux, and tools that can help with that.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: /etc/resolv.conf    is generated at boot so just reboot to reset that
[13:59] <mongy> pppurple, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[13:59] <wk> ActionParsnip: It's tempting just to run these patches on the current kernel and see what happens
[13:59] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[14:00] <dr_willis> pppurple:  you could even set up your current install to just boot an ISO file as one of its grub entries..
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: here is a virgin /etc/hosts file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765890/
[14:00] <rigasetiadi> hello all, anyone can help me in this room
[14:00] <dr_willis> i have a few iso files in /boot/ i have as 'rescue' booting setups.
[14:00] <dr_willis> rigasetiadi:  state the problem
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> rigasetiadi: without asking your question, no ;)
[14:00] <ouyes> rigasetiadi, what is your problem
[14:01] <fly80> hello
[14:01] <pppurple> dr_willis, that seems like it would be the easiest thing to do with the grub file. have any links supporting that?
[14:01] <rigasetiadi> I need some aplication like wardialer in windows, so I can make connection with IP connect
[14:02] <dr_willis> pppurple:  delicious.com/dr_willis
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> rigasetiadi: https://www.softwink.com/iwar/
[14:03] <dr_willis> rigasetiadi:  no idea what wardialer does.. I knwo the OLD term for it :)
[14:03] <dr_willis> wardialer = program to dial random phone #'s  looking for a bbs or other dial up pc.
[14:03] <meco> When I'm using openbox I want to avoid using Nautilus as that seems to invoke even more of the overhead I want to avoid. The problem I'm experiencing however is related to accessing an NTFS partition. Usually I mount it by clicking on it in Nautilus, but now I wante to use the mount command only. So it mounts, but when I run my torrent application I get error messages indicating it gets Permission denied when attempting to write. Help please!
[14:03] <rigasetiadi> I war , that the *.deb software
[14:03] <fly80> i have installed ubuntu on an old laptop... I have now problems using the gdm with effects... afters seconds the display becomes black and I have to manually shutdown to restart...
[14:04] <fly80> now i'm connected with the text-bsed interface
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> rigasetiadi: its not in the repo, but you can compile it
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> fly80: what GPU do you use?
[14:04] <rigasetiadi> there is a manual step by step to compile??
[14:04] <fly80> gpu? there is an ATI mobile
[14:04] <dr_willis> !compile
[14:05] <rigasetiadi> im not expert to much in compile
[14:05] <fly80> ActionParsnip: the cpu is a centrino
[14:05] <pangolin> rigasetiadi: read the info ubottu just provided
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> rigasetiadi: one way to learn
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> fly80: try the bootoption:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[14:06] <fly80> i would like to start ubuntu in safe mode (graphical without effects)
[14:06] <rigasetiadi> okey ill try, nice to join this room, you're all so kind thank before ,
[14:06] <jamg> hello
[14:06] <fly80> ActionParsnip: at start I have no grub interface... how can I set it up?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> fly80: you can choose unity2D from the login screen
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> fly80: hold shift at boot and you will see grub
[14:07] <fly80> shift? never tried
[14:07] <fly80> i'l try
[14:07] <joshiggins> meco: are you running the mount command with sudo?
[14:07] <fly80> ActionParsnip: any other hints?
[14:07] <rhinos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765895/
[14:08] <rhinos> can anyone tell me where to begin here
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> fly80: the boot option may help, if you use the 2D it won't use 3D accelleration and may help while you get uppdated
[14:08] <rhinos> my lan cable is fine.. i checked it. something with the server
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: why ping as root, users can ping?
[14:08] <rhinos> meh
[14:09] <dr_willis> ive seen some disrtos lock down ping :)
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: does the interface have an IP
[14:09] <fly80> ActionParsnip: i'll reboot now. Thanks for now. If you see me again something goes wrong ;)
[14:09] <MhDhAcKeR> EXECUSE ME where can I find backtrack channel
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: does the interface have a default gateway set?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !backtrack | MhDhAcKeR
[14:09] <rhinos> interface? no i changed it back to dchp
[14:09] <bazhang> !backtrack > MhDhAcKeR
[14:09]  * dr_willis wonders if the backtrack homepage has that info. :)
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: fine, but does it have an IP
[14:10] <rhinos> just 127.0.0.1
[14:10] <Vustom> In gparted I flagged /dev/sda1 as boot, but I didn't know what it would do.. now when I boot into my PC I get GRUB, but I can only see my Windows partition which is on /dev/sda1, I've unflagged /dev/sda1 from gparted and reinstalled GRUB, but still no luck.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: thats the loopback, if you run:  ifconfig     do you see an IP for eth0|wlan0|ra0 ?
[14:11] <rhinos> no eth0 :(
[14:11] <rhinos> just lo
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[14:13] <Vustom> In gparted I flagged /dev/sda1 as boot, but I didn't know what it would do.. now when I boot into my PC I get GRUB, but I can only see my Windows partition which is on /dev/sda1, I've unflagged /dev/sda1 from gparted and reinstalled GRUB, but still no luck, can anyone help me?
[14:14] <rhinos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765903/
[14:15] <meco> When I'm using openbox I want to avoid using Nautilus as that seems to invoke even more of the overhead I want to avoid. The problem I'm experiencing however is related to accessing an NTFS partition. Usually I mount it by clicking on it in Nautilus, but now I wante to use the mount command only. So it mounts, but when I run my torrent application I get error messages indicating it gets Permission denied when attempting to write. Help please!
[14:15] <mechbo> Blame Yo'self
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> meco: could add it in /etc/fstab
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: and what ethernet chip are you using?
[14:16] <Vustom> In gparted I flagged /dev/sda1 as boot, but I didn't know what it would do.. now when I boot into my PC I get GRUB, but I can only see my Windows partition which is on /dev/sda1, I've unflagged /dev/sda1 from gparted and reinstalled GRUB, but still no luck, can anyone help me? anyone!?
[14:16] <rhinos> hmmmm? just a lan cable
[14:16] <rhinos> cat e 5?
[14:17] <meco> ActionParsnip: Could add what in /etc/fstab ?
[14:17] <rhinos> i use the same cable on this machine and it works fine. plug it into server :( no good
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> meco: a line to mount the partition at boot
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: what is this " **time**" you have in your uname output?
[14:17] <rhinos> its the time UTC
[14:17] <rhinos> i just didnt want to type it out
[14:18] <b0o-yeah> rhinos    get a new cable or perhaps clean the contacts on the cable and even in the NIC
[14:18] <rhinos> cos i cant copy paste
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> gotcha
[14:18] <sidney> when i try to upgrade the system looks in places that are not in the source list
[14:18] <lduros> hello, I need to set acpi with acpi=noapic or acpi=nolapic with grub in oneiric. THis is due to a problem with the ASUS U46. What file should I edit in /boot/grub to set this?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: run:  sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product
[14:19] <Vustom> Can anyone help me with my boot problem please? :(
[14:19] <sidney> maybe i change the list somewhere alone the line
[14:19] <pfifo> lduros, /etc/default/grub
[14:19] <lduros> pfifo: that's the file?
[14:19] <pfifo> lduros, yes
[14:19] <Dj_FlyBy> Just my luck, 2 PC's 2 Different Problems. PC1 --> Won't boot after activating ATI RAdeon HD3450 proprietary driver  .._-_.. PC2 --> After it boots Update Manager starts automagicly and then the PC gets so sluggish to the point it has to be rebooted.
[14:19] <lduros> pfifo: hehe thanks :-))
[14:20] <pppurple> dr_willis, that site http://delicious.com/dr_willis isnt loading anything....?
[14:20] <Dj_FlyBy> sudo apt-get update
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> lduros: add it in the quotes with:  quiet splash    in /etc/default/grub    then run:  sudo update-grub
[14:20] <rhinos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/765908/
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: LSHW, not ISHW
[14:21] <pfifo> dr_willis currently has no stacks.
[14:21] <dr_willis> pppurple:  not my fault.. thats a rather big site.. its working here
[14:21] <bit-test> omgwtfhax.net
[14:21] <bit-test> oops
[14:21] <dr_willis> http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[14:21] <dr_willis> working fine.
[14:21] <lduros> ActionParsnip: add what in the quote? I need to write acpi=noapic -- this should be inside of: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" ?
[14:21] <pppurple> dr_willis, hmmm, yeah bad internet over here. ill keep trying. thanks
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: you should also add:   127.0.0.1	server1     to /etc/hosts
[14:22] <lduros> "quiet splash acpi=noapic"?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> lduros: yes, change it to:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=noapic"
[14:22] <lduros> ActionParsnip: ok will give it a shot :-)
[14:22] <meco> ActionParsnip: But should there be any qialitative difference between mounting at boot or doing it manually later?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> lduros: save the new file and run:  sudo update-grub    you will need:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     to get write access
[14:23] <lduros> ActionParsnip: yeh I did sudo emacs :-P
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> meco: you can specify different mount options using fstab, otherwise its the same
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> lduros: same difference :)
[14:24] <lduros> ActionParsnip: people were saying to use acpi=off, acpi=noapic or acpi=nolapic -- do you know the difference?
[14:24] <lduros> not sure acpi=off works or not
[14:24] <lduros> heeh
[14:24] <horatio_cromwell> anyone know if realistically ubuntu desktop would run with 750mb (within Virtual Machine - VBox)
[14:25] <pfifo> horatio_cromwell, yes
[14:25] <meco> ActionParsnip: I'm mounting with this command: 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows'
[14:25] <lduros> or maybe that's acpi=off noapic
[14:26] <horatio_cromwell> also is it easy to get multiple monitor support working  in Ubuntu (aparently Vbox supportd it)
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> meco: then using the defauts will be fine, or you can even add the command in /etc/rc.local
[14:26] <rhinos> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/765914/
[14:26] <meco> ActionParsnip: Well, but how do I address the problems I'm experiencing with being denied access?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: yes, we need the product line
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> meco: the command runs as root, so access isn't a problem
[14:27] <dr_willis> horatio_cromwell: multi monitors IN ubuntu running in vbox? huh?
[14:27] <dr_willis> horatio_cromwell:  You might  need to give more details..
[14:28] <meco> ActionParsnip: As I said in my initial call for help, I'm having a problem with accessing the data on the NTFS partition when I have mounted it.
[14:28] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> meco: then add it in /etc/fstab and add options to allow users write and read access
[14:29] <meco> ActionParsnip: when I look at the folders in question in mc they have full permissions
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> meco: so where is the problem?
[14:30] <rhinos> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/765914/  soz man, takes a while to type it in
[14:30] <horatio_cromwell> dr_willis: I want to run run Ubunt as a guest within a windows host (with 2 monitors connected).  but would like the Guest (Ubuntu) to be able to access both monitors
[14:31] <rhinos> is there a way to copy from the server to something like this.. when its working?
[14:31] <Alex79> ciao
[14:33] <pfifo> horatio_cromwell, vbox supports having mutiple virtual monitors, ubuntu comes with the drivers to support that functionality too
[14:35] <gadak> Can any one guide me in how to change CHECKSUM of a reciepi .bb file
[14:37] <Stanley00> gadak: what is a .bb file?
[14:38] <dusf_> !ati
[14:38] <meco> ActionParsnip: I don't know where the problem is. I only know what the symptom is. I'm asking here to find out what the problem is.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: there is no product line listed there, all you need to do is search for the product line in the output to find guides
[14:39] <gadak> stanley: binutils-cross_2.18.bb
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> meco: I'd add the line in /etc/fstab with good options and you won't have an issue
[14:40] <gadak> stanley..im build a filesystem,, in which it downloads this binuitls but i get a error saying md5 checksum is different from what required
[14:40] <Stanley00> gadak: oh, so it a binary file, I think you have to redownload the file,
[14:40] <meco> ActionParsnip:You mean the line 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows'? And with what added options?
[14:41] <Stanley00> gadak: since it say md5sum error, it mean there are some errors in the file
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> meco: no, its similar but not the same
[14:41] <gadak> stanley...i downloaded it twice thrice but all the time i get the same error
[14:41] <meco> ActionParsnip:then what?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> meco: then when you have added it, reboot and it will mount as you say
[14:42] <pfifo> gadak, what are you doing with binutils?
[14:42] <gadak> i am building a file system for an embedded device
[14:43] <gadak> can you tell me what does this thing mean
[14:43] <gadak> t sometimes happens if the tar'd file changes upstream but the recipe
[14:43] <gadak> checksums aren't updated yet.
[14:43] <gadak> The recipe you are looking for is recipes/gnu-config/gnu-config_git.bb
[14:43] <gadak> First thing I'd try is removing the downloaded source and checksum files
[14:43] <FloodBot1> gadak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:43] <gadak> in ${OVEROTOP}/sources.
[14:43] <gadak> Then bitbake gnu-config again. This will re-download.
[14:43] <meco> ActionParsnip: I mean, what should the line look like as opposed to the line I've been using
[14:43] <Stanley00> gadak: make sure download the right version, and btw, how this you download this file, and which prog say about md5 error?
[14:43] <gadak> in terminal
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> meco: there are plenty of examples online, I suggest you use the UUID of the partition
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> meco: you can see that with:   sudo blkid
[14:44] <rhinos> ActionParsnip: mmmh, not really sure how that helps, going to stick a wireless card in. not sure why i get *-network DISABLED could be why nothing works
[14:45] <bahr> Hi I recently switched using Ubuntu 11.10 as my main OS, one thing I miss though is the ability to to play divx streams in my browser. Isn't this possible in Ubuntu??
[14:45] <raven> how to save settings i make with alsamixer - all is muted every reboot!
[14:46] <pfifo> bahr, the mplayer plugin for firefox should help you with that
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: if it's usb based then run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[14:46] <meco> ActionParsnip: What would it look like with UUID E6B08D1CB08CF479 ?
[14:46] <bahr> pfifo: do you know if there is something for chrome to?
[14:46] <bahr> pfifo: but thanks, I will look into that
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> meco: yes, if you look at the lines already in the file you can see how it is used
[14:47] <pfifo> bahr,  there might be a mplayer plugin for chrome, but im not sure
[14:47] <rhinos> ActionParsnip: should i just buy a new network card?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> rhinos: up to you
[14:48] <E3D3> Hi, I'm a TOTAL network-noob or worse a little phobic. To open an extern file in an already running Emacs editor #emacs advised me to use a server & client. Is it true that it has nothing to do with internet ?
[14:48] <rhinos> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[14:48] <meco> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a try then!
[14:48] <pppurple> using http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB do i need to download a GRUB2 and have that on the pen drive and then use that coding for my diffrent ISO files?
[14:49] <rumpe1> E3D3, it has something to do with internet when the extern file is located there. Otherwise not.
[14:49] <qwebirc495354> Hi
[14:50] <pfifo> pppurple, that page is starting from a blank pendrive, so no, you dont need to download anything
[14:50] <qwebirc495354> Does anyone know some simple FTP server which you can just start from the command line, like the Python HTTP server?
[14:51] <E3D3> rumpe1: No it is only for my own local/intern files. Thanks
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc495354: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:51] <pppurple> pfifo, how do i get the pen drive to run that program then? i guess im not understanding what will run the code...
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc495354: if you want access over the web, I suggest you use SFTP which will be automatically enabled with openssh-server
[14:52] <pfifo> pppurple, the BIOS will run grub
[14:52] <qwebirc495354> @ActionParsnip: yeah... but that wasn't what I was looking for
[14:52] <Q-collective> hey all, is it possible to reinstall kernel upgrades? I just got, for the first time ever, a warning that my /boot partition is full and while apt-get quited without errors, I believe it may be installed wrong.
[14:52] <Vustom> For some reason VMware isn't detecting my USB Storage device, does anyone know why? :(
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc495354: then vsftpd will work
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Vustom: I'd ask in #vmware
[14:53] <pppurple> pfifo,  so if format the pendrive and its blank...what exactly am i putting on the drive beside the 2 diffrent ISO files?
[14:53] <E3D3> pppurple: I like MultiSystem for Multiboot USB-sticks, works great: http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[14:53] <rumpe1> E3D3, if you are behind a router/NAT you should be fine
[14:53] <pppurple> E3D3, ok thanks ill look at that as well
[14:53] <E3D3> rumpe1: I'm such a noob that I don't know what that mean. I have public WLAN
[14:53] <pfifo> pppurple, your putting the 2 isos, gurb's config files, and then putting grub into the MBR
[14:54] <meco> ActionParsnip:could I add a line to /etc/fstab that looked like this: '/dev/sda2: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 ntfs'
[14:54] <pppurple> pfifo, hmm thats a little more advanced then what i know how to do right now. ill try E3D3's link http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[14:54] <|Long|> hi guys, what is the cmd to list a drive directory? cat /dev/sdj1 <--didnt now show me anything
[14:54] <rumpe1> E3D3, oh. What kind of server/client should you use? ssh/sshfs?
[14:55] <E3D3> pppurple: Easy install and easy use. I have a usb-hd (180 GB) with 200 distro's on it
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> meco: you need to specify the mount point, and then the options too, as I said there are loads of examples online
[14:55] <pppurple> E3D3, ok ill look at it and ask if i have any questions. thanks
[14:55] <rumpe1> E3D3, as long as it's not ftp but encrypted and you choose a complex enough password, it should also be no big risk.
[14:55] <pfifo> |Long|, first you need to mount the drive
[14:56] <|Long|> pfifo, i have so many drives, i dont know which one is NOT mounted
[14:56] <E3D3> rumpe1: I don't know about ssh etc, they call it emacs.client and then I should install a server. Even with Googling all those terms I didn't understand. I have no WLAN password, its open.
[14:56] <|Long|> is there a way to mount automaticly?
[14:57] <pppurple> what does actually mounting a drive do?
[14:57] <pfifo> |Long|, the 'mount' command will list what drives are mounted and where they are mounted to
[14:57] <pfifo> !fstab | |Long|
[14:57] <E3D3> rumpe1: For a little paranoid noob like me does it sounds to complex to trust blindly. Thank you for trying to explain.
[14:57] <|Long|> yes, i missing one drive is not shows on mount cmd
[14:57] <rumpe1> E3D3, can you describe the scenario more in detail?
[14:57] <qwebirc495354> ActionParsnip: well, thanks. I'll look into vsftpd again. I think I'll try to find a way to install the latest rktftpd, which seems more like what I wanted. It just seems more of a hassle to install.
[14:58] <E3D3> rumpe1: Sure
[14:58] <rumpe1> E3D3, but as I said: as long as it isn't ftp, you should be safe.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc495354: vsftp will run as a service and you can start and stop it like any other...
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc495354: what is so special about rktftpd?
[15:00] <E3D3> rumpe1: I have Emacs editor installed. When I want to open a file outside Emacs it opens in a new Emacs instance. #emacs told me to use the (already installed client) and than give some server-commands to let them talk together. They used words that I had to Google for and gave me more scary internet-related info.
[15:01] <rumpe1> E3D3, hmm.. I don't use emacs myself. Maybe it's a good idea to ask the (515) people in #emacs
[15:02] <qwebirc495354> ActionParsnip: I wanted one that you start in a given folder, and which you kill by C-c'ing it. Like Python's httpd lib
[15:03] <pfifo> qwebirc495354, i think apache's ftpserver can do that
[15:03] <E3D3> rumpe1: Thanks
[15:04] <ajf_> is there any way to run autogen/autotools in a launchpad ppa recipe? I have everything including the debian/ packaging info in the repository, is the only way to get it to build to merge it with a seperate -build repo I need to sync every time I change the configure.ac?
[15:04] <ajf_> it works locally, but launchpad doesn't let me use the 'run' command in the bzr-builder recipe
[15:05] <pppurple> E3D3, is that multi usb boot program in english???
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc495354: you configure ftp programs to start in a particular folder, or you can jail users to $HOME
[15:06] <E3D3> pppurple: Multi-language, the site also with help of google-translate. On new distro's I just install with the commands although I can't read French
[15:08] <pppurple> E3D3, yeah i just found the translate! sorry got a little hasty.
[15:08] <E3D3> pppurple: np, I forgot/skipped it to so thats why I told you.
[15:09] <jujugoboom> i need to use ndisgtk for wireless drivers, (ndiswrapper doesnt work) the problem is the drivers dont work after a restart and then i have to go in manually and reinstall them
[15:09] <pfifo> qwebirc495354, check this out http://code.google.com/p/pyftpdlib/
[15:09] <|Long|> after modified /etc/fstab file what cmd is to updated?
[15:09] <qwebirc495354> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but I didn't want to configure anything. I'm lazy like that ;) More specifically, I wanted this for those times when you don't have a thumbdrive and want a quickie transfer over a LAN.
[15:09] <qwebirc495354> pfifo: thanks, that looks promising too.
[15:10] <Ibis> Does anyone here by any chance use the Konversation chat client? A new release came out and I'm looking forward to upgrade ^_^
[15:11] <|Long|> do i have to restart to take effect after modified /etc/fstab? or is there a cmd to updated?
[15:11] <pfifo> !anybody | Ibis
[15:11] <pfifo> |Long|, you must reboot
[15:11] <|Long|> pfifo, thanks
[15:15] <oCean> |Long|: the command  sudo mount -a  is sufficient
[15:15] <Jung> hi
[15:18] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> how can I stop the update-manager from auto loading on boot. It auto loaded on last boot and was just a grey window and now everything under the "System" menu either doesn't load or is just a grey window
[15:18] <tekoholic> Anyone here use batman-adv on their (K)Ubuntu systems?  If so, care to advise on how?  I have the newest available module and batctl installed, but cannot find ANY information on how to set it up at boot...
[15:20] <KK3OQ> ?
[15:21] <Jung> i love you ubuntu
[15:22] <Cradam> Jung: its a piece of software
[15:22] <pangolin> !ot | Jung
[15:22] <Ravior> Cradam: True... A free piece of software...
[15:23] <Cradam> Ravior: you mean there is software out there that isnt free?
[15:23] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> hmmm, for some reason my filesystem mounted as readonly... anywhere I can look to tell me why?
[15:23] <Cradam> the only piece of software i have paid for recently is minecraft :P
[15:23] <pangolin> Ravior Cradam Please chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:23] <Ravior> yep
[15:23] <Ravior> that reminds me
[15:24] <Jung> Cradam: lol :)
[15:24] <mrdeb> hi
[15:24] <Ravior> is there anyway to install Windows on the same HDD without messing up your Ubuntu installation?
[15:24] <mrdeb> no
[15:25] <Ravior> great...
[15:25] <pangolin> Ravior: you will need to reinstall grub
[15:25] <Jung> !seen auto_celesis
[15:25] <pangolin> !grub2
[15:25] <Cradam> mrdeb: yes there is
[15:25] <mrdeb> no it will take over
[15:25] <nvz> whats the proceedure for installing a proposed package?
[15:25] <mrdeb> install windows then ubuntu
[15:25] <Cradam> mrdeb: see the restore grub link
[15:25] <mrdeb> huh
[15:25] <Ravior> yes
[15:25] <Cradam> nvz: apt-get install packagename
[15:26] <paolo> ciao ragazzi
[15:26] <Ravior> I was wandering if I could install Windows after Ubuntu, not prior to it.
[15:26] <nvz> Cradam: right, but do I need any special sources?
[15:26] <paolo> qualcuno che se ne intende di metasploit
[15:26] <pangolin> Ravior: you can but like I said you will need to reinstall grub see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:26] <Cradam> nvz: oh, you mean for beta applications and such?
[15:26] <Ravior> thx
[15:26] <pangolin> !it | paolo
[15:27] <Q-collective> hey all, is it possible to reinstall kernel upgrades? I just got, for the first time ever, a warning that my /boot partition is full and while apt-get quited without errors, I believe it may be installed wrong.
[15:27] <nvz> Cradam: yessir.. apt-cache show hedgewars shows 0.9.15 not the proposed 0.9.17
[15:27] <Cradam> nvz: you will have to see whether hedgewars has its own ppa
[15:27] <mrdeb> q collective, try cleaning old kernels in boot
[15:27] <Q-collective> mrdeb: done
[15:27] <pfifo> Q-collective, use dpkg-reconfigure <package name>
[15:27] <mrdeb> ok
[15:27] <Cradam> https://launchpad.net/~wikigames/+archive/ppa
[15:27] <Q-collective> pfifo: ok
[15:27] <Cradam> wikigames has the new hedgewars
[15:27] <nvz> Cradam: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hedgewars/0.9.17-1~natty0.1/+build/2949258 says its on primary archive universe
[15:28] <malibu> Hi, if I sync my music to my player via banshee all it does is copy the files.  Does anyone know how to make it create a playlist for my player to use that points to those files?
[15:28] <Cradam> nvz: ahh do apt-get update
[15:28] <nvz> Cradam: I already have 0.9.17 I compiled in my homedir.. but I want to test the new package
[15:28] <pfifo> and its the Q continuum, not collective
[15:28] <oCean> !info hedgewars
[15:28] <nvz> Cradam: I did that just now and apt-cache show still says 0.9.15
[15:29] <nvz> Cradam: I'm on natty
[15:29] <Cradam> nvz: ahh thats why
[15:29] <pangolin> nvz: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[15:29] <oCean> !info hedgewars natty
[15:29] <nvz> no way.. not upgrading to 11.10
[15:29] <oCean> nvz: ^see, 0.9.15 is the natty version
[15:29] <Cradam> nvz: why not, ubuntu classic mode is there
[15:29] <nvz> Cradam: unless things drastically changed gnome is horribly broken in 11.10
[15:30] <pangolin> nvz: if you compiled and used checkinstall it created a .deb you can install with dpkg -i package_name.deb
[15:30] <amin`> guys; in lubuntu; what is the package in charge of notification? like when the gnome mplayer shows that it opened the file or networkmanager when connect to a wirless
[15:30] <Cradam> nvz: they didnt change gnome between 11.4 and 11.10
[15:30] <Q-collective> pfifo: no feedback came back. Is that normal behaviour?
[15:30] <pangolin> Cradam: classic is no longer available in 11.10
[15:30] <Cradam> pangolin: WHAT?
[15:30] <pangolin> Cradam: classic is no longer available in 11.10
[15:31] <Cradam> im not death, but god thats stupid
[15:31] <Cradam> *deaf
[15:31] <pangolin> !notunity > Cradam
[15:31] <nvz> Cradam: b.s. cause 11.4 has gnome2 and 11.10 has gnome 3, and gnome-panel is one thing that is horribly broken in 11.10 doesnt allow the right click at all to do any customization
[15:31] <pfifo> Q-collective, no, you should have seen it rebuild the initramfs, are you sure you gave it the correct <package name>
[15:31] <Cradam> nvz: try mint 11 or mint 12 for a more classic feel
[15:33] <Cradam> i like mint 12's way of doing gnome3
[15:33] <nvz> Cradam: I'm a 12 year debian veteran.. I am only using ubuntu as a means to understand how it works. I am not interested in mint or changing my distro.. I just wanted to test the hedgewars package.. not a big deal
[15:33] <Cradam> havent tried it yet though
[15:33] <nvz> I know how to compile my own, I was just trying to help test the package
[15:34] <nvz> I am staying on 11.04 until I either have time to learn unity or figure out a comfortable environment to use. will do that in virtualbox when the time comes
[15:36] <mongy> I use xfce now, it has more of a classic feel than gnome3 classic
[15:36] <arooni-mobile> my brightness buttons no longer work.  lenovo t420.  other functions of function + button work just fine
[15:36] <vincent_> Does anybody know how to auto start n2n supernode at boot?
[15:38] <pppurple> E3D3, im having some problems with that program...is it just code to run or is there a download on that page somewhere?
[15:38] <mongy> vincent_,  if it has scripts, then sudo update-rc.d n2n default
[15:38] <vincent_> mongy: No.  It doesn't have a startup script
[15:39] <mongy> vincent_,  try adding it to /etc/rc.local then
[15:41] <arniths> hey i'm new to ubuntu and linux, i was just instaling playonlinux and when i start it i get the error "You don't seem to have 3D acceleration! We advise you install and enable it" how can i solve this ?
[15:41] <vincent_> I searched the web and found this link https://github.com/hpfem/hermes/wiki/Vpn.  However, when I tried the suggested method, it did not work.
[15:41] <mrdeb> did u install 3d drive, arnith
[15:42] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[15:42] <arniths> i was just reinstaling ubuntu 11.10 and when i started for the first time it pop up new drivers available for you 3d card and i install the recommended drivers
[15:42] <AlexShiroji> hello
[15:43] <arniths> mrdeb maybe i need some other drivers or ?
[15:43] <pfifo> arniths, did you reboot after installing the restricted drivers?
[15:43] <arniths> yes i did
[15:44] <arniths> i install playonlinux through ubuntu software center
[15:45] <puppen> arniths: go get the latest from their site
[15:47] <arniths> puppen i went afterwards here --> http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html and selected ubuntu and then it does say just type in these commands but like i said i'm new to ubuntu and i don't know how to do this, do i do this all in one command in terminal or ?
[15:48] <puppen> enter the lines one at a time.. You'll be asked for your password in there somewhere. You can download the installer just above those text boxes if youd feel more comfortable.. Then hopefully just be able to double click it and install
[15:49] <ypcress> qit
[15:49] <AlexShiroji> Anyone happen to know if there is a way to disable the audio port(3.5mm) on a MacBook Pro running the latest version of Ubuntu?
[15:49] <arniths> puppen ok ill try to download it and double click it
[15:51] <arniths> puppen i did that the promblem seems to be goen thanks for the help
[15:51] <hobbel> Hey guys, I have an external USB disk which is read only in Ubuntu (File system not clean, disk utility), it works in windows. Disk Utility cant repair it though.. is there a different way to repair it?
[15:51] <puppen> arniths: neato :)
[15:52] <BluesKaj> AlexShiroji, what kind of audioport is a 3.5mm , mini-jack (analog) , coax digital, toslink ?
[15:52] <Tech-1> headphones prolly
[15:52] <AlexShiroji> Its the headphone port on a MacBook Pro
[15:53] <Tech-1> you could mute it
[15:54] <AlexShiroji> Well, its not that I want to mute it. Problem is that the headphone jack broke off inside the port. I want to disable the port so The speakers turn on
[15:54] <BluesKaj> AlexShiroji, yeah as Tech-1 says mute it in alsamixer , there should be a headphone ctrl , use the M ket to mute
[15:54] <BluesKaj> key
[15:55] <Tech-1> then if its broke, you prolly cant, being the jack has both spkr and headphone contacts on it
[15:55] <AlexShiroji> ah :(
[15:55] <AlexShiroji> Thanks then :(
[15:55] <Tech-1> youll have to physically break it down and rplace the jack
[15:55] <mparodi> Hey there!
[15:55] <mparodi> http://paste.kde.org/157418 It works if I execute the first two lines but no if I try to do it automatically using /etc/network/interfaces and reboot the system. what's the difference?
[15:56] <E3D3> pppurple: Sorry, I missed your question. You have Ubuntu installed ?
[15:57] <pfifo> mparodi, network-manager might be interfering
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> the interfaces file should override the GUI app
[15:58] <Tech-1> AlexShiroji:   turn the volume all the way down, so you dont short the onboard audio amp
[15:58] <mparodi> pfifo, how to know if it's the case?
[15:59] <pfifo> mparodi, try disabling network-manager
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mparodi: could add your 2 lines of command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line
[16:00] <BluesKaj> mparodi, with the way you have the interfaces file setup , it doesn't need NM
[16:01] <mparodi> I don't have network-manager installed, by the way
[16:01] <mparodi> and ok, I don't need NM but it can't be the problem :|
[16:02] <mparodi> it's something else, somehow they're doing different things
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> mparodi: makes the system faster if it's not installed :)
[16:03] <mparodi> that's weird because ifconfig eth0 says the IP of the other computer is 192.168.2.2 but I can't ping it from this computer
[16:03] <meerkats> what do I have to do to find, in the terminal, a command by its first letters?
[16:03] <mparodi> inet addr:192.168.2.2 Bcast:192.168.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[16:04] <mparodi> that's ifconfig eth0 in the other computer
[16:04] <xangua> meerkats: tab
[16:05] <pfifo> mparodi, wait, i think your file is setup wrong, try this instead http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[16:06] <robolobster54> I sshfs mounted a drive but i have no permission to access it on the local machine
[16:06] <mparodi> ok, let me see!
[16:06] <robolobster54> What could be wrong?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: find . -name "fire*"
[16:06] <meerkats> ok xangua, i made the wrong question: I mean only for the commands I have manually entered, so I dont have to up key, up key, up key... till I find it
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: did you give the right username and password
[16:06] <robolobster54> yes
[16:07] <BluesKaj> pfifo, he's using a static IP
[16:07] <pfifo> BluesKaj, yeah, the first secion of that document describe proper syntax for static interface
[16:09] <mparodi> pfifo, it's the same, isn't it?
[16:10] <mkjackson_mobile> hey folks, so I just moved my tmp directory to ram using "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,mode=1777 0 0" in my fstab... does this mean that it will use as much as it needs or is there a limit I'm not thinking of?
[16:10] <pfifo> mparodi, under closer inspection yeah it is
[16:11] <pppurple> E3D3, yeah i am running 11.10 now
[16:11] <BluesKaj> mparodi, open or create with permissions a /etc/hosts.allow file and the IPs of the pcs on your lan under , portmap ALL:192.168.X.XX
[16:11] <pfifo> mparodi, comment out lines 4 and 6
[16:12] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering pass?
[16:12] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip I sshfs'd in as root, does that answer the question?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: why sshfs as root?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: do you need access to files outside $HOME ?
[16:14] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip, no other user will work when sshfs'ing other than root
[16:14] <robolobster54> I do not need access to files outside $HOME
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> robolobster54: it will, just tell it to mount  the remote /home/user   folder and it will work
[16:15] <robolobster54> I think I've tried that, will try again
[16:15] <pfifo> mparodi, are you sure networking is starting at boot time?
[16:15] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip by the way, I am sshfs'ing in with public key authentication, if it makes any difference
[16:16] <hobbel> ntfsfix: Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.  <-- chkdsk Volume is fine
[16:17] <robolobster54> ActionParnsip, indeed it doesn't work logging in the sshfs unless I use root
[16:17] <mparodi> pfifo, I don't know. I just noticed it stopped working with the first two lines I pasted so I trying to fix that first :S
[16:17] <robolobster54> Log says: Permission denied, public key
[16:19] <pfifo> mparodi, can you ping yourself with ping 192.168.2.2
[16:20] <E3D3> pppurple: Did you opened the install-page (link left) ? Use the 1st block commands: Method 1-Bis. (Not the code for # Debian users) Copy the commands lines (those starting without ##) one by one in a terminal & enter
[16:20] <mparodi> oh, never mind! it's working now. the problem is that when I reboot the other computer I need to execute "ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" here again :)
[16:21] <pfifo> !yay | mparodi
[16:21] <Tech-1> lol
[16:21] <mparodi> it's weird though
[16:21] <mparodi> but well
[16:22] <Ravior> Any Ubuntu 12.04 alpha 1 users?
[16:22] <oCean> Ravior: #ubuntu+1 channel for that
[16:23] <BluesKaj> mparodi, for what it's worth here's my interfaces file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/766028/ ..quite simple and it's all you really need
[16:23] <Ravior> thx
[16:23] <wk> ActionParsnip: I ran the patches on the 11.04 kernel and it worked.
[16:23] <E3D3> pppurple: Or click on the link left in the installation-web-page and translate it. There you see a recommend method that use a download + shellscript.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> wk: wtg :)
[16:23] <wk> ActionParsnip: Keyboard backlight now 70%-ish functional, I just can't figure out how to adjust it yet, but atleast it works! :)
[16:24] <mparodi> by the way, I don't have internet on the other computer since it's only connected to this one but can I configure something to have internet? I would like to install a couple of things using my repos
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> wk: you'll need to redo it each time a new kernel is installed, you could pin the kernel version using apt-pinning but you may miss out on other stuff
[16:24] <pfifo> mparodi, google for iptables masquerading howto
[16:25] <mparodi> alright! thank you all :)
[16:25] <wk> ActionParsnip: Yeaah I got that.. Problem is that I never liked updating the kernel, always gave me GRUB and other bootup problems.
[16:25] <BluesKaj> mparodi, how is the other pc connected to "this one" ?
[16:25] <mparodi> a network cable using eth0 in both computers, that's all
[16:25] <wk> ActionParsnip: So I'll stick on the current kernel unless something drastically changes.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> wk: then pin away :)
[16:26] <wk> ActionParsnip: One more thing.. How do I downgrade GNOME 3.2 to the default version in 11.04? (could just google it)
[16:28] <semba> Hey, i m new to linux and I'd like to connect a 2nd screen to my laptop but when I simply plug it in as I used to do on windows nothing happens. Do you know how to do it?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> mparodi, so you have 2 nics on the internet connected pc , then thru a router/modem to the internet?
[16:28] <wk> semba: Try pressing WINDOWS KEY + P at the same time
[16:28] <mparodi> yes, PC1 --> PC2 --> router, that's the idea
[16:28] <sam22> hail !!! people of this chanel
[16:28] <E3D3> pppurple: I prefer: Method 1-Bis. Just copy those 4 command-lines one by one in terminal, plug in an USB & install as many distro's as fit ;-)
[16:28] <E3D3> Some are not supported, see their list although it supports more than on the list.
[16:28] <pppurple> E3D3, yeah i think i am getting the shell as well. the translation kinda didnt translate well and im still a bit new
[16:29] <BluesKaj> mparodi, but whynot connect the other pc into the router as well?
[16:29] <E3D3> pppurple: You don't need the translation, French commands are the same ;-)
[16:30] <pppurple> E3D3, i checked that list and it donst have mint or arch but i can def run different versions of ubuntu
[16:30] <mparodi> because it doesn't have a wifi card and I'm about at 10m of the router (no, I don't have a 10m network cable and it's saturday to buy one!), BluesKaj
[16:30] <pfifo> le'grub-install
[16:30] <pppurple> E3D3, i understand the comands i just dont understand all the instructions haha
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> wk: you can log into gnome classic in Natty,it's not an option in Oneiric and later and Gnome2 is no longer developed upstream
[16:30] <semba> wk: the bar in the left part of my screen shows up with numbers, but my other screen keeps saying no signal
[16:30] <mparodi> actually I have a 10m network cable but I just noticed it's broken (I never use it) :|
[16:30] <E3D3> pppurple: It works in new Ubuntu (if I'm not wrong) & also in Mint 12, for me not in Mint 11 & 10.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> wk: if you like the gnome 2 look, I suggest you install xfce4 and use that
[16:31] <semba> wk oh and i m using gnome
[16:31] <E3D3> pppurple: The first command add a repository:
[16:31] <E3D3> sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main'
[16:31] <pppurple> E3D3, i just have 11.10 Ub installed and i want to save those other distros to the USB and boot off it
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> E3D3: if you do it that way, you will need to manually import the GPG key
[16:32] <BluesKaj> mparodi, is it possible to move the router closer , if you're on dsl , then you just need a phone line
[16:32] <E3D3> pppurple: Do you want a copy of what you have on harddisk or new/fresh distro's on the usb
[16:32] <E3D3> wget -q http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot/multisystem.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[16:32] <E3D3> This add the public key
[16:32] <shankysv87> i'm having issues with my wireless connection.
[16:32] <mparodi> haha it's not. otherwise I will need a 10m telephone cable, and I don't have one neither, BluesKaj
[16:33] <pppurple> E3D3, hmm yeah. i can copy it but i dont understand what all the commands are doing so if i screw something up i dont know how to fix it
[16:33] <E3D3> pppurple: This Reload the sources:
[16:33] <E3D3>  sudo apt-get update
[16:33] <BluesKaj> mparodi, ok :)
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> pppurple: or more intelligently: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/12618/multisystem/
[16:33] <pppurple> E3D3, i am putting new distros that i have on ISOs
[16:33] <shankysv87> did an update last night and my ability to use my wireless adapter has disappeared.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> E3D3: one link said all that you said, and I didn't scroll the channel
[16:33] <mparodi> I just want to forward any request PC1 do to PC2, it can't be that hard
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !ics | mparodi
[16:33] <E3D3> pppurple: Okay, Multisystem is my hero for that
[16:34] <mparodi> interesting, thanks
[16:34] <E3D3> ActionParsnip: Am I saying to much ? Or wrong things
[16:35] <amin`> holstein:  is notifyosd the lib or the api i mean it is the underlining  substructure or that bubbly stuff
[16:35] <ssbr_> So, xtris is broken: http://codepad.org/ZX7OEYWS
[16:36] <pfifo> !info xtris
[16:36] <pfifo> !info xtris lucid
[16:37] <pfifo> ssbr_, looks like it was removed from the repos
[16:38] <pppurple> E3D3, thanks. im reading that link that ActionPar linked and trying some terminal stuff you posted. it looks like it will work well if i can LEARN!
[16:38] <meadhikari> please help my ssh script does not works while on cron its ""ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub b@a.org"" it works without password when executed alone
[16:39] <semba> nothing happens with windows key+p, any other idea to set up that 2nd screen?
[16:39] <E3D3> I'm a fullblood eternal noob and just got help from nice people with patience. Love also Multisystem so like to help, if I can.
[16:40] <HQRaja> Guys, is there a way to do sudo apt-get update from the GUI in Software Center after adding a new repository, without having to go to the command line?
[16:40] <pfifo> meadhikari, it might be because cron runs without the usual enviroment variables that your user runs as
[16:41] <meadhikari> pfifo, i gave the input file
[16:41] <HQRaja> I mean, when we can add a repository through the GUI, we should be able to update too, right?
[16:41] <meadhikari> pfifo, what other environment is required?
[16:41] <pfifo> meadhikari, cron dosent have a $HOME set, so ~ wont work
[16:41] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[16:42] <Tech-1> HQRaja:  you could install   nautilus-open-terminal  and use the mouse right click for easy terminal
[16:42] <meadhikari> pfifo, /home/username/.ssh is also not working :(
[16:42] <pfifo> meadhikari, then perhaps ssh requires an interactive session
[16:42] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Yup I know there are workaround for that...I'm just wondering if there's the update functionality built into the GUI of Software Center (as it should be) or not
[16:43] <Tech-1> no, sry
[16:43] <HQRaja> No problem =)
[16:43] <Tech-1> 10-4
[16:43] <meadhikari> pfifo, no, it is not interactive no password or a passphrase needs to be provided
[16:43] <pfifo> meadhikari, exactly
[16:43] <HQRaja> 10-4?
[16:43] <Tech-1> = ok
[16:43] <HQRaja> Oh OK
[16:44] <meadhikari> pfifo, what you mean by that?
[16:44] <pfifo> meadhikari, i mean ssh most likely REQURES an interactive shell
[16:45] <meadhikari> pfifo, and now how to prevent that
[16:45] <pfifo> meadhikari, why not just put the real script into the crontab of the target computer?
[16:46] <pppurple> is there a way to copy/paste into terminal?
[16:46] <pppurple> !repository
[16:47] <meadhikari> pfifo, actually i wanted to create a reverse port forwarding
[16:47] <pppurple> how do you add a repository?
[16:47] <E3D3> pppurple: Control-Shift-V
[16:47] <E3D3> pppurple: Paste in terminal
[16:48] <cooper_> In the past 10 days I've had  two kernel changes. Today I  updated to 3.0.0-14-generic.  Has anyone else experienced this?
[16:48] <meadhikari> pfifo, ssh -i ~/.ssh/id -f -N -q -R 2222:localhost:22 my_name@remote.example.com is my script
[16:48] <is_null> hi all, my mouse is stuck, it happens a lot, i have to reboot every time ....
[16:49] <pfifo> meadhikari, that will never work in cron, you should be putting that in /etc/rc.local
[16:49] <is_null> oh there's a kernel package update i'll try that and come back to you
[16:49] <meadhikari> pfifo,  i do not have root access to the system, is their any work around?
[16:50] <pfifo> meadhikari, add it to your users startup scripts
[16:50] <tonyyarusso> I have a laptop (HP Compaq nc8230) that runs 11.10 fine locally.  However, when PXE booting 11.10 from a Clonezilla box, the boot hangs on "input: PS/2 Generic Mous as /devices/platform/i8042/serio4/serio5/input/input8".  Any ideas?
[16:50] <meadhikari> pfifo, like @restart in cron? u just said it wont work on cron right?
[16:50] <cooper_> I'll have to check and see if the new kernel improves power usage on my acer aspire 4720z.
[16:51] <cassuser> Hello - I have 11.10 and a Synaptics Touchpad on my laptop. Very often a gesture gets triggered to move the current window, and it is very annoying.  I'm not sure what the gesture is or how to disable the move window gestures - does anyone have any suggestions on this issue?
[16:51] <pfifo> meadhikari, right it wont work in cron, add it to xsession or the startup applications
[16:51] <dbugger> hey guys. Im having some problems with DNS. "time echo "" | nc google.com 80" takes 20 seconds but when I use the IP address instead, is instant. How could I fix this?
[16:51] <colloquialismic_> Ok Guys
[16:51] <colloquialismic_> KDE vs GNOME... which one is sexier?
[16:52] <tester_> hi
[16:52] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: Kde
[16:52] <Tech-1> my cat
[16:52] <is_null> colloquialismic_: dwm by suckless.org
[16:52] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse, why do you say that ? :D
[16:52] <HQRaja> Is there a way to set Gmail as my default email client in Ubuntu? Like...launching a gmail compose window when I click mailto: links
[16:52] <meadhikari> pfifo, i can only ssh to the system from inside the lan
[16:52] <HQRaja> I could do it in Windows by installing Google Apps
[16:52] <colloquialismic_> is_null, dwm? ill look it up
[16:53] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: KDE IMO is more flashy, the main screen even on a default install is just awesome
[16:53] <pfifo> meadhikari, and?
[16:53] <Tech-1> HQRaja:  sys/pref/prefered apps
[16:53] <zkriesse> The effects are a lot nicer etc
[16:53] <meadhikari> pfifo, i just wanted to ssh to that computer from outside the lan
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse, yes... but if i want to do some real work done... would u still think kde is best?
[16:54] <zkriesse> I've always preferred KDE's prettiness over any attempt at it by GNOME
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse,  or is gnome a better option for pure work and barebones>?
[16:54] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: They're both great UNIX softwares
[16:54] <is_null> colloquialismic_: look up "enlightnement" aka DR17
[16:54] <zkriesse> Just as effective
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> yes. i agree... which one is lighter tho?
[16:54] <colloquialismic_> oh ok
[16:54] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Yup but over there, I don't see any option for Gmail. It's kinda tricky since it's supposed to be a web app rather than an installed email client...but there's got to be a way to do it.
[16:54] <is_null> ok everybody, no mouse pointer anymore for me
[16:55] <Tech-1> ic
[16:55] <is_null> colloquialismic_: enlightenment is light and eye candy
[16:55] <colloquialismic_> I am looking at dwm, awesomewm and a few others... i am a pure cli dude ha
[16:55] <Tech-1> not sure then,
[16:55] <HQRaja> No problem
[16:55] <cooper_> Mouse trouble? Go to mouse and touchpad and uncheck "disable touchpad while typing".
[16:55] <HQRaja> Anyone else have any idea on how to configure Gmail to be your default email client? (Not through Thunderbird or another mail client i.e.)
[16:55] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: What it really depends on is how the user utilizes the resources... Any system/OS has the potential to be effective to the best of its capabilities, it's the user that matters
[16:55] <is_null> how am i going to do that :)
[16:55] <zkriesse> HQRaja: Negative mate
[16:56] <pppurple> ...
[16:56] <is_null> nvm i figured, thanks colloquialismic_
[16:56] <is_null> *cooper_
[16:56] <colloquialismic_> I think I will use KDE with awesome WM... it looks the best and I used it a bit before
[16:56] <Tech-1> HQRaja:  maybe an applet ??
[16:56] <Tech-1> like checkGmail ?
[16:56] <colloquialismic_> is_null, I will look at ur other 2 suggestions tho
[16:57] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Lemme try looking it up, thanks =)
[16:57] <Tech-1> ok
[16:57] <Myrtti> !info gnome-gmail | HQRaja
[16:57] <user> hey any of you guys help me out please
[16:57] <colloquialismic_> does anyone know anyone here who may know someone about something i need from someone to give to someone?
[16:57] <Tech-1> thx Myrtti
[16:57] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Awesome...that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for =)
[16:57] <HQRaja> +1
[16:57] <user> need help to setup up proxy server on ubuntu
[16:58] <Myrtti> HQRaja: do you use Unity or Gnome-Shell?
[16:58] <amin`> ther
[16:58] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Unity
[16:58] <zkriesse> colloquialismic_: After I figure out that question ill answer ya :P
[16:58] <Myrtti> HQRaja: in that case you might be interested in gm-notify as well
[16:58] <colloquialismic_> zkriesse, good man :D
[16:58] <HQRaja> Myrtti: In addition to gnome-gmail or as an alternative?
[16:59] <user> i got all files needed but dont no how to configure it
[16:59] <Myrtti> HQRaja: I use both, but have added gnome-gmail to messaging menu blacklist
[16:59] <amin`> i am in need of "notification daemon"
[16:59] <Canadian1296> can anyone help with disabling casper autologin on a livecd before building?
[16:59] <HQRaja> Myrtti: I see...otherwise both notify you?
[17:00] <pfifo> Canadian1296, that info didnt work?
[17:00] <amin`> does notifyOSD and notification-daemon do the same job or one is front-end and back end
[17:00] <Myrtti> HQRaja: otherwise gnome-gmail shows up in the messaging menu without a specific purpose other than being there, gm-notify does a better job in the notification front
[17:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what is the command to reinstall an upgrade or fix an upgrade install
[17:01] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Ah I see...thanks. Since you've mentioned it, how do I add apps to blacklist of the messaging menu? I see a couple of apps there with mere entries there, without doing anything.
[17:02] <pfifo> Canadian1296, modify your initramfs have a look at the script 'casper-bottom/15autologin'
[17:02] <cassuser> Having issues with a Synaptics Touchpad where it drags windows around the screen.  Is there any way to disable the feature to move windows and still use the touchpad?
[17:02] <Canadian1296> pfifo: No, i created user "ubuntu" with uid of 999 and then set a pass. When i booted from it it logged in automatically, but rather than ubuntu@ubuntu$ it just said $ and started spitting out "sh" errors
[17:02] <HQRaja> PS: When I change my online status from the Messaging menu, which IM app does it effect? I have Pidgin and Emesene installed in addition to the default Empathy that shipped with Ubuntu
[17:02] <Canadian1296> pfifo: and okay, i've looked at it before, but ill take another look
[17:03] <Myrtti> HQRaja: mkdir -p ~/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist/
[17:03] <super789> i'm having porblems instaling ubunto 10.10 from the cd in a p3 500mhz
[17:04] <Myrtti> HQRaja: then make symlinks there to whichever apps you want not to be visible to /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications
[17:04] <Myrtti> HQRaja: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/remove-unused-entries-from-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu/
[17:04] <HQRaja> Myrtti: Awesome...thanks a bunch =)
[17:04] <super789> i get to the menu to pick the language, and after chosing install option i just get a black screen
[17:04] <Myrtti> HQRaja: on the IM issue - no clue, I'm happy with Empathy now that it actually works nicely with Gtalk video chat
[17:05] <HQRaja> Myrtti: I see...yeah Empathy is pretty neat but I guess I'll have to get used to its UI which seems rather too 'empty' to someone coming from Windows
[17:06] <Tech-1> Please deposit all microsoft products to your nearest green box receptacle.
[17:06] <pfifo> super789, how long did you wait?
[17:06] <super789> pfifo 5 minutes
[17:07] <MeirD> I need to output all process (using ps aux) that uses more thab 0.1 of MEM
[17:07] <MeirD> than*
[17:07] <pfifo> super789, it will likely take hours to load, try the alternate installer
[17:07] <MeirD> I thought about a way to do it easily with awk
[17:07] <MeirD> but my assignment says I have to do it with ps aux|grep -E "^REGEX" only
[17:07] <super789> what is the alternate installer pfifo?
[17:07] <MeirD> any hints?
[17:08] <pfifo> !alternate | super789
[17:09] <Canadian1296> pfifo: would changing any instances of "AutomaticLoginEnable=true\n\" to "AutomaticLoginEnable=false\n\" do it?
[17:09] <HQRaja> Tech-1: Heh...well I actually really like Windows 7...merely made the switch to Ubuntu for a change but loving it so far.
[17:09] <super789> pfifo thanks. but i don't have any linux skills the instalation will also be user friendlly?
[17:09] <HQRaja> Learnign new things about it each day
[17:09] <HQRaja> Learning*
[17:09] <pfifo> Canadian1296, im not sure, but it sounds logical (i was thinking you might try deleting that script all together)
[17:10] <pfifo> super789, its not that hard
[17:10] <Canadian1296> Okay, would deleting it have any adverse effects (if something calls it but it's not there)?
[17:11] <pfifo> Canadian1296, not sure, keep a backup just in case
[17:11] <Canadian1296> well im working in virtualbox and i have several snapshots, so ill try it and see what happens
[17:11] <pfifo> Canadian1296, it looks like it simply calls all scripts in that directory
[17:11] <MeirD> this time in one line: I need to output all process (using ps aux) that uses more than 0.1 of MEM. I thought about a way to do it easily with awk. but my assignment says I have to do it with ps aux|grep -E "^REGEX" only. any hints?
[17:12] <Canadian1296> okay, so i'll delete 15autologin, and build.
[17:13] <Canadian1296> pfifo, before building i was just looking at the rest of the scripts in casper-bottom
[17:13] <Madkiss> hi there.
[17:13] <Madkiss> I'm installing 11.10, how do I choose LVM for disk setup?
[17:14] <``PeeR> hi either
[17:14] <pfifo> Canadian1296, try dpkg -L casper to see everything that casper installed
[17:15] <Canadian1296> pfifo, (sorry, hit enter), and i was wondering if deleting 10adduser would prevent it from adding a user at boot? that way i could set a root password and log in as root when prompted
[17:15] <pfifo> Canadian1296, that sounds like an option too
[17:15] <Canadian1296> okay, ill try it. thanks for your help
[17:16] <semba> any hints how to set up a 2d screen for my laptop (not sure which info you'd need to help me on that so please ask if I m not telling enough)
[17:17] <sam22> why you want help ?
[17:17] <sam22> with two monitors ?
[17:17] <Madkiss> it never even asks for LVM initialization orsomething.
[17:17] <semba> yes sam22
[17:17] <sam22> connect the 2nd monitor and that's it
[17:17] <semba> I did it and it says "No signal"
[17:17] <sam22> you want me to sign any papers ?
[17:17] <sam22> reboot your system
[17:18] <super789> can some one tell me the probability of the memmoryes that i have in my p4 fit in my p3?
[17:18] <pfifo> semba, you might need to press a function key specific to your laptop to activate the vga port
[17:18] <pfifo> super789, not good at all
[17:19] <semba> you mean reboot with my 2nd monitor plugged, too, right?
[17:19] <super789> ok thanks
[17:20] <warddr> Can anyone help me with ironhide? Is there a good step by step tutorial or something like that?
[17:21] <semba> sam22: will try and let you know
[17:21] <semba> thks
[17:21] <jjgalvez__> does gnome-shell have a widget layer like compiz ? I'm using screenlets and would like to put one on a widget layer, but don't know how to access it in gnome-shell
[17:21] <sam22> semba no need to thank me. you will figure it out by your self
[17:22] <super789> pfifo: just to confirm pc3200 512MB ddr doesnt fit in the pentium 3 board?
[17:23] <AlexIsAverage> I'm having some trouble setting up an Afterglow USB Xbox controller. Can anyone help me out?
[17:23] <endure> warddr: http://www.cmdematos.com/2011/10/ubuntu-1110-oneric-on-dell-xps17-l702x.html - Not really a guide but it got me ironhide running
[17:23] <pfifo> super789, a p3 500mhz isnt going to run ubuntu desktop very well
[17:24] <Medjai> Does anyone know of a way to switch default bindings for workspace switching from from ctrl+alt+arrow left/right to just alt+arow left/right?
[17:24] <warddr> thanks endure , I'll take a look at it
[17:24] <endure> warddr: No prob
[17:24] <super789> pfifo i discovered that a few minutos ago when reading the system requirements, do you recomend another distro?
[17:24] <pfifo> super789, ubuntu-server
[17:25] <super789> i'm preparing a PC for a children to user office and some browsing
[17:25] <super789> the server haves a desktop enviorment?
[17:26] <pfifo> super789, well anything graphical isnt going to be very good, no server dosent have a graphical enviroment
[17:26] <super789> i have a 256mb card in the pc
[17:26] <super789> grafic card
[17:26] <pfifo> super789, i guess your stuck with ubuntu-desktop, you wont get any beter performance from a different distro
[17:27] <super789> ok thanks
[17:27] <super789> i0m finishig downloading the alternate
[17:28] <pfifo> super789, it would make a good machine to run a remote desktop from
[17:29] <warddr> endure, I got it installed, and I found an example that changes the light between high and low energy profile. But the last command,    modprobe nvidea_current    gives me this error:  FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.0.0-14-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[17:30] <pfifo> modprobe nvidia_current
[17:30] <pfifo> not nvidea
[17:31] <L3d> hi do i need linux-kernel 3.0.0.14 because it sems i havent got another version or anny installed ,and the upd cmd didnt include this ,so what do i do ?
[17:31] <Night-hacks> where are short keys config files ?
[17:32] <warddr> pfifo, I know, just a typo here, I used the right command in the terminal
[17:32] <L3d> why dont i have an older version of this ?
[17:32] <pfifo> warddr, then you dont have a supported nvidia card, pastebin the output of `lspci`
[17:32] <Exxon> pfifo, modprobe | grep VGA
[17:33] <endure> warddr: Yer give what pfifo is saying a shot
[17:33] <Madkiss> any ideas, anyone?
[17:33] <Canadian1296> pfifo, making the squashfs filesystem… my fimgers are crossed
[17:33] <pfifo> Canadian1296, good luck :)
[17:33] <corey_> hello
[17:34] <warddr> ender, pfifo ,  http://pastebin.com/GtCJCDxJ
[17:34] <Guest36322> i have a ? how do i change my nick?
[17:34] <pfifo> warddr, you hyave an intel video card, I dont think it supports 3d acceleration
[17:34] <L3d> can someone say yes or no pls
[17:35] <L3d> uvd2 and vaapi
[17:35] <warddr> pfifo, I have an intel videa card, and an nvidea GT4
[17:35] <warddr> pfifo, I have an intel videa card, and an nvidea GT540
[17:35] <pfifo> warddr, yeah i just noticed the second
[17:35] <soltani> Hi,I want to install win7 beside ubuntu , how can I build a bootable flash?
[17:35] <L3d> grub
[17:36] <Exxon> soltani, instead going to flash business simply burn a cd and wubi..
[17:36] <pfifo> warddr, you might need to use the nvidia drivers from their site instead of what ubuntu is providing
[17:36] <L3d> dont foreget avira besides that ,thay also have a boot-anti-virus thingy ,wich is run with a linux thingy
[17:36] <soltani> Exxon, my cd drive does not work
[17:36] <pfifo> !liveusb | soltani
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Exxon, wubi isn't a proper alternative to an real ubuntu install
[17:37] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[17:37] <L3d> someone care to explain why i dont have a linux kernel 13.0.0. bla installed ,this didnt show in the console update
[17:37] <Madkiss> argl. LVM support is not included in the default installation image?
[17:37] <Madkiss> jesus christ.
[17:37] <oCean> Madkiss: control your language here, please
[17:38] <pfifo> Madkiss, nope, you need the alternate installer
[17:38] <soltani> ubottu, I want to install Windows 7,I have ubuntu and I want to make bootable usb,Because my cdrom does not works
[17:38] <oCean> L3d: ubuntu does not provide latest, for oneiric it's 3.0.0.13.15 currently
[17:38] <soltani> pfifo, I want install windows 7
[17:38] <Exxon> soltani, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[17:38] <pfifo> soltani, follow the links that ubottu gave you
[17:38] <L3d> dont have any installed ,isnt that weird
[17:38] <HQRaja> BTW look into YUMI too if you want to setup multiple OS installation discs on a single USB flash drive
[17:39] <Barbariandude> Hi guys. I'm trying to convert my entire music library from .mp3 to .ogg in command line. How can I change this to cd into each folder and convert the contents inside each as well?   for x in *.mp3; do ffmpeg -i "$x" "`basename "$x" .mp3`.ogg"; done
[17:39] <HQRaja> Google for YUMI...should be the first result
[17:39] <Madkiss> oCean: oh, so begging for god's mercy is forbidden in here?
[17:39] <soltani> pfifo, I want install windows 7, It makes bootable usb to install ubuntu
[17:39] <oCean> Madkiss: no swearing here. Try to keep the channel family friendly and professional.
[17:39] <sam22> praise the lord!! Madkiss
[17:39] <oCean> sam22: please move on
[17:40] <Exxon> BluesKaj, i accept but is only for testing and to along ..not entirely too far but can accomadate give the user experience that he require.
[17:40] <pfifo> soltani, I can only provide support for installing ubuntu
[17:40] <Madkiss> oCean: yeahright.
[17:40] <oCean> thanks
[17:40] <HQRaja> soltani: You currently have Ubuntu installed and you want to add a Windows 7 installation?
[17:40] <sam22> i'm a believer
[17:40] <overdub> Barbariandude: for x in $(find . -type f -name "*mp3"); do . . .
[17:40] <BluesKaj> soltani, ask in ##windows
[17:40] <oCean> sam22: that's not on topic here
[17:40] <Madkiss> oCean: Lemme guess, you're from the US? :)
[17:41] <oCean> Madkiss: nope, I'm a channel operator
[17:41] <sam22> where is the freedom of experssion oCean
[17:41] <oCean> sam22: not in IRC
[17:41] <L3d> ok so is two lone swordsmen actually i am kloot ?? heh
[17:41] <soltani> Exactly Horaja
[17:41] <L3d> thnx pps
[17:41] <Barbariandude> overdub, and that will go through each folder?
[17:41] <sam22> GOD be with yee everyone !!!
[17:41] <Madkiss> oCean: That's great, could I get your real name pretty please? And ... what role do you have in Ubuntu / Canonical?
[17:41] <sam22> o/
[17:41] <BluesKaj> sam freedom of expression doesn't include offending others
[17:41] <L3d> Available version: 3.0.0-14.23
[17:41] <sam22> i'm leavig
[17:41] <BluesKaj> sam22,^
[17:42] <L3d> why !!
[17:42] <overdub> Barbariandude: will find all files of type file, and name *mp3
[17:42] <HQRaja> BTW installing Windows 7 will mess up the bootloader and you won't be able to boot into Ubuntu...you must then install grub again and configure it to boot Windows/Ubuntu
[17:42] <oCean> Madkiss: not discussing that here, you can /join #ubuntu-ops if you want to
[17:42] <soltani> HQRaja, Exactly
[17:42] <overdub> Barbariandude: in all subdirectories unless -maxdepth is given
[17:43] <Canadian1296> pfifo, still there?
[17:44] <pfifo> Canadian1296, yeah
[17:44] <L3d> linux header are at 13.0.-14 ?
[17:44] <Night-hacks> does anyone knows gconf-editor modifies which config file ?
[17:44] <Canadian1296> pfifo, it worked beautifully. Now i boot and get a login prompt, and it'll only take to root pass i gave it. Thank you so much  :D
[17:44] <HQRaja> soltani: I believe it can be done...just install Windows 7 on another partition. You will then have to boot into Ubuntu using a Live CD and find a way to install only the bootloader without installing Ubuntu again
[17:45] <L3d> oCean, linux header now are at 13.0.0.-14 ??
[17:45] <pfifo> Canadian1296, cool, ill have tro take note of the method for next time
[17:45] <oCean> L3d: what?
[17:45] <HQRaja> I haven't done that but that's how it should work in theory. I've myself installed Windows 7 first, and then let Ubuntu installation take care of the bootloader management the way it does
[17:45] <L3d> the newest version is at 13.0.0.14 ?
[17:45] <soltani> HQRaja, I now have ubuntu
[17:45] <Canadian1296> Well i modified it a bit… Ill send what i did to you directly
[17:45] <Medjai> Is there a way to switch default bindings for workspace switching from from ctrl+alt+arrow left/right to just alt+arow left/right?
[17:45] <pfifo> ok
[17:46] <soltani> HQRaja, Is there a way to build bootloader in ubuntu
[17:46] <L3d> ok so what does grub do ??
[17:46] <Barbariandude> overdub, for x in $(find . -type f -name "*mp3"); do ffmpeg -i "$x" "`basename "$x" .mp3`.ogg"; done <--- isn't working, says invalid directory. Do I need to include the working directory in ffmpeg or something?
[17:47] <xdccFriend_[8452> !ciao
[17:47] <xdccFriend_[8452> !lista
[17:47] <HQRaja> soltani: You have Ubuntu now...use the Windows 7 installation CD to install Windows 7 on another partition (assuming you already have an empty partition...if you don't, make one using GParted). Once you have installed Windows 7, you won't be able to boot into Ubuntu but just use the Ubuntu Live CD or USB to boot, and then install only grub (I don't know how to do that though i.e. install only grub)
[17:47] <HQRaja> I hope that long message got across completely....in case it got cut off somewhere, lemme know and I'll paste the rest.
[17:47] <L3d> oCean, how come i have no version installed and it says linux-kernel and headers vesion at 13.0.0.14 ?
[17:48] <soltani> HQRaja, but problem is my CdROm was broken!
[17:48] <L3d> u say some other version is the newest ,im confussed
[17:48] <A|i3N> is there an *easy* way to set up a shared network drive on an SSH accessible box?
[17:48] <HQRaja> soltani: Your WIndows 7 CD ROM?
[17:48] <Barbariandude> HQRaja, it's sudo grub-install in terminal, if I remember right
[17:48] <A|i3N> maybe a guide of some sort i could follow
[17:48] <Guest36322> i have a question about power supplys does anybody know anything about them?
[17:48] <L3d> gues were talking stable "
[17:48] <ScramTech> What's the question Guest?
[17:48] <HQRaja> Barbariandude: I see...and it'll install grub even if done after booting from the Live CD/USB?
[17:48] <Barbariandude> !anyone | Guest36322
[17:49] <pfifo> A|i3N, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[17:49] <Barbariandude> HQRaja, yup
[17:49] <Radium> Guys I've tried playing NaCl games like 'Bastion' and 'Pocket legends' but they keep saying there's problems with my graphics card not supporting OpenGL. I just got my new Lenovo H330 computer with an i5  intel proccesor. Does Ubuntu not support it or something?
[17:49] <soltani> HQRaja, No my CdRom which read cd and dvds!
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> naCl is kitchen salt
[17:49] <overdub> Barbariandude: could be a few different things. hard to trouble shoot a one liner in chat room. try echo $x to see if you're getting a list of mp3 files
[17:49] <L3d> i can check on updates /changelog on-line but id rathe ask here ,y"know
[17:49] <A|i3N> Ahah thank you Pfifo
[17:49] <HQRaja> Barbariandude: I see...thanks =)
[17:49] <Barbariandude> Radium, i5s use optimus tech, get ironhide, google it
[17:50] <HQRaja> soltani: Oh OK...your CD Drive, you mean. You can easily make Windows 7 bootable USB. Wait, lemme get you the link for that.
[17:50] <Guest36322> if you have a 1000 watt power supply but you system only uses or needs about 720 watts is the 1000 watt pulling 1000 watts out of the wall
[17:50] <soltani> HQRaja, yes , I make mistake .CD Drive! ;)
[17:50] <Guest36322> or does it only pull what it needs
[17:50] <Radium> Barbariandude You'll have to explain that a little further?
[17:50] <Guest36322> ?
[17:50] <pfifo> Guest36322, no, it will onyl use 720
[17:51] <gigglefight> quickquestion: ppc g4 macmini non-intel or non-amd processor which ubuntu would be best for me?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Guest36322, no , the PSU will only pull what is deamded by the pcs hardware , no more no less
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> !best| gigglefight
[17:51] <webnet> Guest36322, sort of. it actually only pulls 120 volts at 115 which it converts to 1000 watts inside the psu
[17:51] <HQRaja> soltani: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ (it works with creating Live USB for Linux as well as Windows, but for Windows, make sure you read the 'Very Important' section of that page)
[17:51] <Barbariandude> Radium, you need this: https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide
[17:51] <ScramTech> no Guest.. it only draws what it needs.  Can easily measure draw with a cheap KillAWatt  http://www.amazon.com/P3-International-P4460-Electricity-Monitor/dp/B000RGF29Q
[17:51]  * Guest36603 nicole
[17:52] <Guest36603> hello there
[17:52] <HQRaja> soltani: It's a Windows app unfortunately, so you must use either WINE (not sure if it'll work well in WINE or not) or preferably, use some friend's Windows PC to run it.
[17:52] <Guest36322> so its not pulling a 1000 watts it can though pull up to a 1000 watts right
[17:52] <L3d> ok sudo apt-get update ,dint install linux-renel and headers how come ?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> I wish you Guest guys would choose a real nick
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Guest36322, yes
[17:52] <Radium> Barbariandude Ah thanks I'll add that PPA. Which packages do I need to install from it?
[17:52] <webnet> Guest36322, sort of. it actually only pulls 120 volts at 115watts which it converts to 1000 watts inside the psu. but it will only serve out what it needs inside the computer. if the psu is a 10,000 watter, and the mobo is a 200 watter it will only server out 200 watts
[17:52] <L3d> do /nick wit a cool name ;)
[17:52] <gigglefight> @ubottu: thank you; need link for site with distros form selections, like a form that will narrow down the distros.
[17:52] <``PeeR> ll
[17:53] <webnet> Guest36322, hope that helps
[17:53] <Barbariandude> Radium, Basically, whats going on is that the laptop uses graphics switching to swap between onboard and card graphics. Nvidia never released how it works, so thats a bit of inventive reverse engineering. The package is called ironhide
[17:53] <Guest36322> cool becuse thats what i thought just was not sure exactly
[17:53] <semba> sam22 if you re still there I still need your help as I did reboot but my 2nd monitor still won't work: it turned on when my laptop restarted but said no signal just as my normal screen (the laptop one) displayed the login window
[17:53] <``PeeR> test
[17:53] <``PeeR> grmbl
[17:53] <HQRaja> soltani: Once you have installed Windows, just boot into Ubuntu using a Ubuntu Live USB and run 'sudo grub-install' from terminal (as Barbariandude suggested), and you'll have the bootloader working for dual-boot
[17:53] <webnet> semba, sam22 isnt on right now. i may be able to hel you tho, whats going on?
[17:54] <Radium> Barbariandude Ah okay thanks I'll install it now
[17:54] <HQRaja> I suggest you use YUMI to get both Ubuntu and Windows 7 on the same USB for installation and live CD use
[17:54] <L3d> oCean, did u make a mistake saying its version 13.0.0.013 ? cause i get 13.0.0.14
[17:54] <Guest36603> hei, am new for linux :D
[17:54] <oCean> !info linux-image-generic
[17:54] <oCean> ^L3
[17:54] <oCean> ^L3d
[17:54] <webnet> Guest36603, Welcome to the community! :)
[17:54] <Guest36322> ya i was almost going to buy a new power supply because i thought that my 1000 watts was using to much power but it only uses what it needs another reason is because i cant use my backup battery with my system because it draws to much juice
[17:54] <Guest36603> anyone help me?
[17:55] <gigglefight> thank you! laters!
[17:55] <webnet> Guest36603, Welcome to the community what do you need?
[17:55] <L3d> than why does it keep showing up at a version ..14 , is this 3rd party software i included ?
[17:55] <Mazerooo> ciao
[17:56] <semba> ok I want to set up a 2nd monitor for my laptop so I plugged it in as I used to do with windows but nothing happened. Sam22 told me to reboot which I did and my 2nd monitor did turn on together with my lamptop but said no signal when I got the login page to Ubuntu
[17:56] <webnet> semba ok are you on 10.x or 11.x
[17:56] <Guest36322> i was think of getting a 750 watt thinking it would draw less juice but since my 1000 watt power supply only draws what it needs then theres no point
[17:56] <soltani> HQRaja, Is there another way?
[17:56] <semba> 11.10 I think
[17:56] <semba> (very new to Linux)
[17:56] <webnet> ok so unity? semba?
[17:57] <soltani> HQRaja, ...
[17:57] <L3d> so when i install a 20A hd-fan over a prev 0.09A does it matter ?
[17:57] <domedagen1> I was thinking about getting a SSD to Ubuntu but read a lot about the importance of updating firmware
[17:57] <Exxon> semba, it works with windows not with ubuntu..colclusion xorg is modified to your laptop sepecification not the monitor you attach later
[17:57] <ScramTech> 20 Amp fan?!?
[17:57] <domedagen1> Linux is often left behind when it comes to updates
[17:57] <webnet> semba are you using unity or gnome?
[17:57] <Guest36322> and your saying it actully only draws 120 volts and converts it to 1000 watts?
[17:57] <FrozenFire> Is there a PPA somewhere for the 3.1 kernel?
[17:57] <``PeeR> someone is with weechat here?
[17:57] <Neil> hello does anyone know anything about programming stacks on netbeans
[17:57] <L3d> yup
[17:58] <domedagen1> What do you think about a SSD to Linux?
[17:58] <semba> webnet: that name does ring a bell but is there a way to double check?
[17:58] <amin`> what are the choices  of notification daemons?????
[17:58] <``PeeR> L3d: what's the command to change the color of your nick ?
[17:58] <semba> ok gnome
[17:58] <Guest36322> i dont think ssd is stable memory
[17:58] <L3d> when i turn on my "pc" it goes really fast after4 that i dont know
[17:58] <pfifo> ScramTech, a 20 amp 240v fan
[17:58] <amin`> i know xfce4-notifyd what else?
[17:58] <A|i3N> someone refresh my  memory on the tool i use to find the ip's on my network?
[17:59] <Neil> Please help me with with programming
[17:59] <L3d> that good sir i dont knwo
[17:59] <webnet> Guest36322, yes essentially. american outlets use 120 volts at 115 watts and 150 ohms, eutope uses 240 volts at 130 watts ant200 ohms the psu actually works like an adapter
[17:59] <Guest36322> how do i change my nick?
[17:59] <L3d> know
[17:59] <``PeeR> Guest36322: /nick yournick
[17:59] <Barbariandude> overdub, found the problem, spaces are messing with it, how do I escape over spaces?
[17:59] <webnet> semba. top left of you screen. just a ubuntu symbol, or 3 menus Applications | Places | System
[17:59] <BluesKaj> Guest36322, 120vX15a=1800watts
[17:59] <Neil> does anyone know anything about programming in here?
[17:59] <airtonix> probably
[17:59] <airtonix> !ask | Neil
[18:00] <webnet> Neil what language?
[18:00] <L3d> guest use /nick NAME "
[18:00] <ImTheDude> cool
[18:00] <``PeeR> hey the dude ;)
[18:00] <L3d> name being yours ehh
[18:00] <overdub> Barbariandude: maybe replace all spaces with underscores?
[18:00] <``PeeR> He's just... The dude, you know :P
[18:00] <Neil> Webnet its on java for netbeans
[18:00]  * overdub hates spaces in file names
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> the dude, the big lebowski
[18:00] <``PeeR> yeah
[18:00] <webnet> ok so what do you need Neil?
[18:00] <trism> amin`: your other two main options are notify-osd and notification-daemon (gnome-shell also has a built-in notification daemon, but you really need to use gnome-shell for it)
[18:00] <``PeeR> MonkeyDust: how did you make your nick orange?!
[18:00] <semba> webnet: that's gnome
[18:00] <webnet> semba, you still with me?
[18:01] <semba> yep I just replied gnome
[18:01] <webnet> sembo. wow pressed enter at same time. haha
[18:01] <Barbariandude> overdub, it's a large music library. Sure there's no way to prefix detected spaces with \ ?
[18:01] <L3d> big lebowski ,get of my beach property !! :p
[18:01] <webnet> ok so then semba go to the system menu > Preferances > Monitors
[18:01] <amin`> trism: nice; very nice answer. really thanks YOUU ROCKK
[18:02] <L3d> so i gues putting back a (broke) 0.09a disk fan will work better ?
[18:02] <Neil> i have to create a stack and a queue and i have a button created called push that is meant to create a retangle when i push it and then it has to push some text into it and everytime i push it it moves a rectangle down and replaces it with the next one with text in it and i cannot get my action listener on the button to create the rectangle
[18:02] <L3d> does the sudo apt-get update install linux headers also ?
[18:03] <L3d> there not provided normaly so i gues not .. than how come i need them now "?
[18:03] <semba> i m in a system monitor menu
[18:03] <semba> is that ok?
[18:03] <amin`> trism:  whic one is better ; good looker
[18:04] <L3d> i gues the newest version isnt updated ,maybe later ?
[18:04] <ImTheDude> so eveybody agrees that 1000 watt power supply is only going to pull what it needs
[18:04] <webnet> Neil, ok that question is more geared towards the ubuntu java channel #ubuntu-java check there they will be able to give you better advice
[18:04] <pfifo> ImTheDude, its impossible for energy to just disappear
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ImTheDude, yes
[18:05] <Neil> thank u
[18:05] <L3d> i dont freakin get it ,my hd-fan pulls like 20 ,will it? ,i keep getting the indicator lights saying its broke
[18:05] <webnet> ok semba do you see a detect monitors button?
[18:05] <MeQuerSat> ImTheDude, a 1000 watt psu will take more energy from the wall under low loads
[18:05] <webnet> Neil, No prob hope you find what you need :)
[18:05] <MeQuerSat> for example: the efficiency for a 1000 watt maybe be a great deal lower @ 100 watt than for a 500 watt psu
[18:05] <BluesKaj> pfifo, it turns into heat if it's not used , class A audio amps for example
[18:05] <ImTheDude> what does that mean
[18:05] <L3d> its difficult finding a 0.09a fan these days ..
[18:06] <MeQuerSat> that means that if you just browse the web, a 1000 watt psu will consume more energy than a 500 watt psu
[18:06] <pfifo> BluesKaj, no it turns into heat when it IS used
[18:06] <Exxon> semba, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[18:06] <semba> nope I have 4 tabs which are system, processes, resources and file systems
[18:06] <meco> What's wrong with this line in /etc/fstab: "uuid=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs"
[18:06] <ImTheDude> is my pg and e going to be worse
[18:06] <ImTheDude> buy alot
[18:07] <webnet> good call Exxon! semba check there
[18:07] <BluesKaj> pfifo,ever own a a class A audio amp, if you did you'd know I was joking :)
[18:07] <L3d> trhe big space thingy in the midle .. you have headers for tht
[18:07] <trism> amin`: I think notify-osd looks the best, but it is lacking some features of notification-daemon (like being able to close notifications)
[18:07] <MeQuerSat> meco: you need to make it UUID
[18:07] <webnet> semba you should be in a monitor preferences window
[18:07] <HQRaja> Is it OK to completely remove Thunderbird if I am never going to need it?
[18:07] <pfifo> BluesKaj, no
[18:07] <ImTheDude> is it that big of a deal to wher i have to but a lower watt power supply?
[18:07] <HQRaja> Or is it required for something in the background?
[18:08] <semba> i m now in a Displays menu with a detect displays button
[18:08] <MeQuerSat> meco: you also need two extra numbers, one for pass and one for dump: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs 0 2
[18:08] <Radium> Barbariandude: Okay I installed that package and restarted. I tried one of the NaCl games and it worked! But I've also tried two others and they still don't work.
[18:08] <pfifo> ImTheDude, its not going to waste all that much energy, it wont be worth buying a NEW power supply for
[18:08] <L3d> i have the black border around my window and scalling makes it better but in games i can sti;ll see the diffrance in colour like the border is still there ..
[18:08] <ImTheDude> im i really going to save that much PG and E to buy a 750 watt and take out my 1000 watt?
[18:09] <meco> ok, I'll make another try.
[18:09] <amin`> trism: but it closes itself?  and about the both; any form of configuration?
[18:09] <MeQuerSat> meco: Try this line: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs defaults 0 2
[18:09] <Barbariandude> Radium, those are working on your onboard graphics. To use card graphics, you need to prefix the run command with 'optirun'
[18:09] <meco> ok
[18:09] <ScramTech> depending on the efficiency rating of the PSU, the extra draw will be negligable
[18:09] <MeQuerSat> meco: I would also use the ntfs-3g driver instead
[18:09] <MeQuerSat> meco: so replace ntfs with ntfs-3g
[18:09] <meco> ok!
[18:10] <MeQuerSat> :)
[18:10] <ImTheDude> scramtech what does that mean
[18:10] <Radium> Barbariandude: But I don't have any graphics card present in the computer. I wanted to use the built in CPU ones.
[18:10] <L3d> ok ill get back at this say ow tomarow ,laters pps
[18:10] <ScramTech> Dude: it means you need to go read up on how PSU's actually work, and how they are rated.  :)
[18:10] <meco> I read somewhere that ntfs-3g might have to be installed first. I'm using 11.10. Should I check for that?
[18:10] <L3d> not going to install stuff i dont have allready , mean updates :p
[18:10] <ImTheDude> would you buy a 750 watt and over a 1000 watt if the 1000 watt was cheeper?
[18:10] <Barbariandude> Radium, oh, then it's working as intended. What errors are the other 2 spitting out?
[18:10] <trism> amin`: notify-osd has hardly any configuration, I believe notification-daemon is pretty configurable but I haven't used it in a while
[18:11] <MeQuerSat> meco: you can do a simple "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g" in the terminal
[18:11] <pfifo> meco, ubuntu comes with ntfs-3g by default, you dont need to install anything
[18:11] <meco> Ah, ok
[18:11] <MeQuerSat> ImTheDude, go to ##hardware they love talking about this
[18:11] <webnet> ok semba did it detect your second monitor?
[18:11] <semba> I m sorry I cann't get to that monitor preferenceswindow!
[18:12] <MeQuerSat> pfifo, thanks, didnt know that yet :)
[18:12] <L3d> updating thru the console ,and finding updates in update amnager is really weird ,how come these differe ?
[18:12] <webnet> semba y not?
[18:12] <ImTheDude> what ever i have another question
[18:12] <L3d> r diffrent
[18:12] <ScramTech> Dude: I would buy what my system requires to operate.  I would buy more than what my calculations require for stable operation of the system.  I would be more concerned about stable system than if it costs me $1 a month to run it.  :)
[18:12] <Neil> is there anyone here who knows about java there was no on in the java chat room
[18:12] <L3d> upgrade makes em install right ?
[18:13] <ScramTech> dude:  use this http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp  then buy what is required
[18:13] <ImTheDude> whats a good board that dont use alot of juice?
[18:13] <Radium> One entitled 'Angrybots' shows a loading bar that freezes. The other 'Bastion' that says it requires and OpenGL compatable graphics card and I should check that I've got a compatible graphics card with the latest drivers
[18:13] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, let him go to ##hardware
[18:13] <MeQuerSat> this is #ubuntu
[18:13] <ScramTech> mequeresat: agreed
[18:13] <webnet> semba, pm me so we can avoid all the clutter out here
[18:13] <L3d> thats what i just said ,anywho
[18:14] <Radium> Barbariandude I'm going to have to go AFK for a moment I'll notify you of my arrival. Won't be a minute.
[18:15] <semba> cann't find it ! I mean I don't see anythingcalled preferences anywhere, but I installed Linux yesterday, not really comfortable with it now
[18:15] <``PeeR> well...
[18:16] <``PeeR> 20 minutes to find that orange is brown here... lol
[18:16] <ScramTech> I need some help installing a Highpoint RocketRAID 2640x4 on Ubuntu Server v11.10.  Highpoint website provides pre-made RPM drivers for v10.10, but Google searches indicate there are issues with those.  They also provide Open Source Drivers for linux kernel v2.4.x and v2.6.x but apparently I'll have to add those as a kernel module.  Highpoint docs are terrible.  Was hoping for native support in kernel on v11.10 but doesn't appear to b
[18:16] <MahaVishnu> ScramTech, RPM is for redhat ubuntu is .DEB
[18:17] <ScramTech> I know, I'd have to convert them
[18:17] <ImTheDude> ya thats cool
[18:17] <MeQuerSat> I think he gets that, MahaVishnu
[18:17] <ScramTech> regardless, other people say don't use them
[18:17] <urlin2u> semba, do you have a panel on the left sidee of the screen?
[18:17] <urlin2u> side
[18:17] <pfifo> ScramTech, i would build the open source module
[18:17] <MahaVishnu> MeQuerSat, he said rpm drivers for 10.10 so I wasn't sure....
[18:17] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during bootup now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[18:17] <Exxon> ``PeeR, orange ??
[18:17] <meco> Whats wrong with this line in /etc/fstab: "UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 2"
[18:17] <MahaVishnu> MeQuerSat, Do you have to build the module from source? it might not be that hard. then getting the module in to the kernel is ez.
[18:17] <MahaVishnu> oops ^ scramtech
[18:18] <MeQuerSat> meco: did you use quotes in the file too?
[18:18] <ScramTech> pfifo: yeah, figured that's what I'd have to do... am not finding any guides for that.  I'm making the switch from windows world to linux.  Just have alot of reading to do. :)
[18:18] <meco> no
[18:18] <MeQuerSat> meco: did you reboot already?
[18:18] <GoD> Bonsoir
[18:18] <meco> yes
[18:18] <pfifo> ScramTech, building kernel modules is pretty easy, the package should come with instructions
[18:19] <MeQuerSat> meco: can you copy the output of "sudo blkid" to pastebin.com ?
[18:19] <meco> ok
[18:20] <ScramTech> pfifo:  highpoint docs are -horrible-.  English is definitely not their native language  ;)
[18:20] <urlin2u> meco, if you run blkid does is the uuid the same?
[18:20] <urlin2u> does=is
[18:20] <Exxon> pfifo, download from source has instructions with it..only should know to compile it
[18:20] <MeQuerSat> urlin2u, thats what Im trying to see ;)
[18:21] <pfifo> ScramTech, well usually you just have to install build-essential and linux-headers, and then run make insider the source directory, this should build a module.ko file
[18:21] <meco> urlin2u: yes
[18:21] <meco> MeQuerSat: http://pastebin.com/ksNEWSs8
[18:22] <MeQuerSat> meco: what happens if you do "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows" ?
[18:22] <Exxon> ScramTech, can you share what are you trying to compile
[18:23] <pfifo> Exxon, Highpoint RocketRAID 2640x4
[18:23] <meco> MeQuerSat:Nothingm apparently
[18:23] <ScramTech> exxon:  sure, one moment
[18:23] <MeQuerSat> can you do "nautilus /mnt/windows" and create a folder in it?
[18:23] <ScramTech> this is link to highpoint page, open source driver at bottom  http://www.highpoint-tech.com/BIOS_Driver/page/rr2640.htm
[18:23] <KiiK> Hi, apt-get keeping try unsuccessful installation. how can I stop it
[18:24] <Radium> Barbariandude Sorry I'm back now. What's going wrong do you think?
[18:24] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, I already see a Ubuntu 10.10 version of the driver there, why compile?
[18:24] <meco> MeQuerSat: It just returns me to the prompt without mounting, at least not at that point
[18:24] <Exxon> pfifo, now you have a good idea what is the matter ; don't we
[18:25] <Barbariandude> Radium, no clue, which is why I asked what errors you're getting
[18:25] <MeQuerSat> meco: so you cant mount it?
[18:25] <ScramTech> well, from doing research on google, it seems there are errors with those v10.10 drivers
[18:25] <pfifo> Exxon, how so?
[18:25] <MeQuerSat> I should give them a try nonetheless, ScramTech
[18:26] <ScramTech> If you think they'll actually work, I could give them a shot... just don't want to hose up a new install
[18:26] <meco> MeQuerSat: I was able to mount it with that nautilus command
[18:26] <Shizuo16> hello all
[18:26] <MeQuerSat> meco: so you can create a folder or file in /mnt/windows ?
[18:27] <meco> yes
[18:27] <Shizuo16> How can i install my dvd driver !!
[18:27] <Exxon> ScramTech, raid cannot simply detect from the software you installed its the bios as you know additional hdd cannot simply detect it self ...but comes to bios at last i would not suggest any thing there..
[18:27] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, its already installed ;)
[18:28] <MeQuerSat> meco: then what is the problem?
[18:28] <Shizuo16> well i can't find it in /media
[18:28] <ScramTech> Exxon:  sorry, I don't follow.  You suggest that I do not use anything from that highpoint webpage?
[18:28] <amin`> right now ubuntu and lubuntu use right now ? notify-osd or notification-daemon?
[18:28] <GS_iPanda> hello, i am having an issue getting ubunto to boot from the dvd. says it can't find a "live" file.
[18:28] <meco> MeQuerSat: I want to avoid nautilus since that somewhat defeats my purpose of running with openbox
[18:29] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, do "sudo mkdir /media/cdrom && sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom"
[18:29] <Radium> Barbariandude oops I said that before but I forgot to include your name so you probably didn't see it.
[18:30] <Radium> One entitled 'Angrybots' shows a loading bar that freezes. The other 'Bastion' that says it requires and OpenGL compatable graphics card and I should check that I've got a compatible graphics card with the latest drivers
[18:30] <Exxon> ScramTech, if the pc is a server it has raid capabilities built in the bios to detect if extended then you have to configure in the bios itself that could be..
[18:30] <MeQuerSat> meco: if you now run "sudo umount /mnt/windows && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows" from the terminal
[18:30] <MeQuerSat> what happens?
[18:30] <Barbariandude> Radium, yeah, that is a bit of a problem in high-use channels like this
[18:30] <i_is_broke> does ubuntu have a program to let me use my webcam as a security cam?
[18:31] <ScramTech> exxon:  I was hoping there was built in support for the raid controller.  I guess I just don't know how to enable it.  I had assumed if there was built in support, the controller would be detected during installation.
[18:31] <webnet> anyone know an updated command for gnome-display-properties in 11.X it seems in unity the gnome monitor properties no longer apply. anyone know A fix/updated command?
[18:31] <endure> i_is_broke: motion
[18:31] <Radium> Barbariandude Before installing ironside 'pocket legends' didn't work at all. Now that it is installed it sometimes works when starting it up. Other times it says your graphics card failed to inilitze
[18:32] <kasii> hi
[18:32] <i_is_broke> endure, ty
[18:32] <meco> MeQuerSat: Then I cannot see anything in /mnt/windows from the terminal view
[18:32] <kasii> webnet hi
[18:32] <endure> i_is_broke: np
[18:32] <pfifo> Exxon, its probably a fakeraid, otherwise he wouldnt need drivers at all
[18:32] <kasii> webnet  tsup
[18:32] <MeQuerSat> meco: can you do "cd /mnt/windows && mkdir ./test_dir && ls" ?
[18:32] <Shizuo16> No MEdia Found in /dev/sr0
[18:33] <artur> sorry mistake
[18:33] <webnet> hey kasii!
[18:33] <Exxon> ScramTech, bios show all the hardware that the system has..let us know you system i think you over extended then you have to change the psu for additional power to detect it
[18:33] <Barbariandude> Radium, can you put your /etc/xorg.conf on pastebin for me?
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, can you output "ls /dev/" to pastebin.com ?
[18:33] <kasii> how do you do webnet
[18:33] <meco> MeQuerSat: Now I see stuff
[18:33] <MeQuerSat> meco: so it works
[18:34] <Shizuo16> didnt understand
[18:34] <GS_iPanda> can't get ubunto to boot from the dvd. says it can't find a "live" file. anyone know what i need to do?
[18:34] <Radium> Barbariandude No such file is present
[18:34] <pfifo> ScramTech, it took me a whole 30 seconds to build that module
[18:34] <ScramTech> well I used lshw and the output did not indicate it knew about the raid controller at all... the PC used to be a windows server and the raid controller worked fine there (after driver install of course)
[18:34] <meco> MeQuerSat: something works, I'll have to check something else also
[18:34] <trism> amin`: ubuntu-desktop depends on notify-osd, it doesn't look like lubuntu has a default notification daemon
[18:34] <tekoholic> OK, so nobody running batman-adv?  How about 802.11s?
[18:34] <MeQuerSat> Shizuo16, well, run "ls /dev/" from a terminal and copy the output to a website called www.pastebin.com
[18:34] <ScramTech> well pfifo, I'd be forever grateful if you could link me info on how to do the procedure... I'm a windows guy making the switch to the linux world  :)
[18:35] <``PeeR> ScramTech: welcome in the club ;)
[18:35] <Shizuo16> ok
[18:35] <ScramTech> peer:  n00b all over again :D
[18:35] <Barbariandude> Radium, that's pretty much impossible... how are you trying to get it? with "gedit /../../etc/xorg.conf"?
[18:35] <``PeeR> ScramTech: come from ?
[18:35] <MeQuerSat> GS_iPanda, you probably need to burn the CD again (make sure to use a low speed setting, so it wont make any mistakes)
[18:35] <Sivik> anyone ever set up a VPN server using pptp in ubuntu?  I have it running but when a computer is attempting to register, it fails.
[18:35] <endure> i_is_broke: Its a nice little app that can take input from more than one usb cams
[18:35] <pfifo> ScramTech, pastebin the output of `lsb_release -a ; uname -a`
[18:36] <GS_iPanda> k
[18:36] <Radium> Barbariandude When installing ironside I prompted me to select a model. I think I may have selected 'Acer' by accident. I'm pretty such I didn't though. How can I go back and check that?
[18:36] <ScramTech> roger that pfifo... one moment
[18:36] <MeQuerSat> GS_iPanda, Are you using the 64bit version of Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> !fakeraid | ScramTech
[18:37] <Sivik> dr_willis, you around?
[18:37] <Neil> anyone good with java here?
[18:37] <meco> Are there any file managers that give me full file names but do not invoke gnome when started from openbox?
[18:37] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: And if you didn't already know, what you have is FakeRAID rather than true hardware RAID.
[18:38] <Shizuo16>  can't
[18:38] <MeQuerSat> meco: maybe thunar?
[18:38] <ivan__> првет народ
[18:38] <meco> Ok.. I'll check it
[18:38] <Neil> anyone know anything about stacks in java?
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> !ru| ivan__
[18:38] <Exxon> ScramTech, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[18:38] <``PeeR> !russian ivan__
[18:38] <ScramTech> Jordan_u: from my understanding the HighPoint RocketRAID 2640x4 is a true raid controller, not a fake on-mobo "raid" controller
[18:39] <``PeeR> !ru| ivan__
[18:39] <ScramTech> pfifo:  pastbin  http://pastebin.com/uJLLSCCd
[18:39] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: Then it shouldn't need any additional drivers.
[18:39] <|Long|> on 11.10 where is terninal session?
  can't, what do you mean?
[18:40] <GS_iPanda> MeQuerSat, to be honest, i can't remember what the heck i downloaded now
[18:40] <``PeeR> |Long|: at the left of the screen, don't you have applications?
[18:40] <|Long|> i have application, but terminal not there
[18:40] <ScramTech> Jordan_U:  yeah... I wondered about that.  Regardless... I'm stuck with 3 of these, so need to get it working heh
[18:40] <MeQuerSat> GS_iPanda, well, it could be that the download was corrupt (reburning the cd wont help then)
[18:41] <pfifo> ScramTech, you are running linux kernel version 3, this code is made for linux kernels 2.4 and 2.6
[18:41] <Sivik> anyone good with VPN servers on here?
[18:41] <webnet> kasii, alright and you?
[18:41] <NEO30> WELCOME
[18:41] <kasii> fine webnet
[18:42] <nsaquatics> afternoon.
[18:42] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, do you need the sata ports on the card?
[18:42] <ScramTech> pfifo: right... and the file dates are 2009 era... I was hoping that meant there is now native support for this controller
[18:42] <kasii> webnet lets  be private as yesterday
[18:42] <webnet> k
[18:42] <ScramTech> sorry 2010
[18:42] <pfifo> ScramTech, dose the drive show up as a /dev/sdXY
[18:42] <``PeeR> |Long|: try Alt+F2 and terminal...
[18:43] <ScramTech> pfifo: I have sda, sda1, sda2, sda5... my understanding is that those were for /, swap, lvm
[18:44] <pfifo> ScramTech, run this `sudo modprobe rr26xx`
[18:44] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: NewEgg says that you can get this type of "RAID Controller" for less than $10.00. That pretty much means it's FakeRAID.
[18:44] <nsaquatics> Does anybody here have a USB over ethernet setup on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? I'm having problem compiling the driver.
[18:44] <ScramTech> pfifo: but if the controller doesn't even show up on the output of lshw, I don't think it's being seen
[18:44] <pfifo> ScramTech, can you pastebin the output of lspci
[18:44] <``PeeR> after you will right click on the terminal at the left and you'll have the option to keep it there
[18:45] <ScramTech> jordan_u: yes yes, thanks... regardless, I'm stuck with these controllers... have 4 1TB drives attached to them
[18:45] <ScramTech> pfifo: sure, one moment
[18:45] <MeQuerSat> nsaquatics, any specific building errors?
[18:45] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: Read the FakeRAID instructions from ubottu.
[18:45] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, are all your mobo ports used? ;)
[18:45] <Tebyghenya> I need to convert many audio files at the same time. Focused in MP3 → OGG. Can you recommend me a converter?
[18:45] <nsaquatics> MeQuerSat, yes, let me dig it out..
[18:45] <meco> MeQuerSat: thunar seems fine
[18:45] <sailand> ds
[18:45] <sailand> ghbdtn
[18:45] <sailand> привевт
[18:45] <FloodBot1> sailand: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <Nins_a> hey
[18:46] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, any specific reason to convert MP3 to OGG?
[18:46] <``PeeR> |Long|: is it working?
[18:46] <ScramTech> pfifo: *shock* it shows up!  :)  http://pastebin.com/qChMNi0H
[18:46] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, trancoding is not very beneficial for audio quality
[18:46] <GS_iPanda> MeQuerSat, i downloaded the 32 bit
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> OGG is free and lossless, or almost
[18:46] <Tebyghenya> MeQuerSat: or MP3 to FLAC. I need files in a open format.
[18:47] <Tebyghenya> MeQuerSat: no problem with that.
[18:47] <ScramTech> MeQuerSat: No.  Suggesting I move the drives over?
[18:47] <pfifo> ScramTech, well if the modprobe command failed, then your going to have to downgrade to a 2.6 kernel to continue
[18:47] <Q-collective> MonkeyDust: OGG Vorbis is a lossy format
[18:47] <ScramTech> pfifo: ugh.
[18:47] <blackbit> Tebyghenya, have you already googled?
[18:47] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, you can use the command line version of LAME to decode the MP3 and then use flac or oggenc to encode to flac/ogg
[18:47] <MeQuerSat> thats what I use when converting
[18:48] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, you could also open the Software Center and search for "sound converter"
[18:48] <Tebyghenya> blackbit: yeah, but only found video converters who do it one by one. I don't what to do that 20 times.
[18:48] <pankaj> hi everyone
[18:48] <``PeeR> I have a microsoft mouse... Is there some drivers for ubuntu :S ??
[18:48] <Cams> Is AAC an open format?
[18:48] <Tebyghenya> ok
[18:48] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: just plug it in?
[18:48] <blackbit> Tebyghenya, ok, so you basically need a batch converter
[18:48] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, if the drives arent part of a RAID already, you can move them over
[18:48] <meco> Can I instruct another default file manager when I'm in openbox compared to when I'm booting up normal?
[18:49] <``PeeR> Q-collective: it's working but I have a frekign bug with it...
[18:49] <Q-collective> define "bug"
[18:49] <Exxon> ScramTech, MeQuerSat is absolutely right ..don't make fun here
[18:49] <ScramTech> pfifo/MeQuerSat:  so... sounds like the easy way to get these drives back online is to just get rid of the Highpoint controller and setup FakeRaid post-install.  :/
[18:49] <blackbit> Tebyghenya, as MeQuerSat said, Sound Converter also have batch processing (a lot of files at once)
[18:49] <``PeeR> Q-collective: scrolling up making the browser (or some other program) doing BACK instead of just scrolling up...
[18:49] <ScramTech> No, I'm not making fun at all
[18:50] <ekawithoutyou> find
[18:50] <ScramTech> was just hoping this controller "with linux support" would work for me lol
[18:50] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: have you looked in the mouse settings for anything unusual?
[18:50] <Tebyghenya> ok, thanks
[18:50] <MeQuerSat> Tebyghenya, you can also write a very simple bashscript to encode everything
[18:50] <ScramTech> only up-to-date drivers they have are for windows
[18:50] <pfifo> ScramTech, if there isnt any data on the drives you can setup a softraid, but beware, you cant access the softraid from windows
[18:50] <Tebyghenya> I don't know how to do that
[18:50] <meco> Can someone invite me to #openbox?
[18:50] <blackbit> MeQuerSat, if he is asking here, he would probably prefer the GUI of Sound Converter ;)
[18:50] <``PeeR> Q-collective: yup, I've tried all I found on forums... nothing to do.. may be i missed something or may be the computer need drivers...
[18:51] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: Unless you need to dual boot with Windows I would recommend just using plain Software RAID rather than bothering with FakeRAID. It will likely even be faster.
[18:51] <ScramTech> MeQuerSat/Jordan: yeah... this server is never going to have windows on it again, so no worries there
[18:51] <MeQuerSat> blackbit: I have actually made a similiar script a few days ago and found it to work easier than the GUI of SC
[18:51] <paulo_gomes> hi all
[18:51] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: Did the mouse have common issues? (ie other users having bugs with it too). What version of Ubuntu are you running? Dud the mouse ever work properly?
[18:51] <pfifo> ScramTech, then yeah, the softraid is easiest, you can mail me the fakeraid controller since you dont need it anymore
[18:51] <Jordan_U> ScramTech: For setting up Software RAID during install you'll need to use the alternate install CD.
[18:52] <ScramTech> thanks for the help gang... I'll dump the controller and move everything to mobo and give it a shot
[18:52] <Jordan_U> !alternate | ScramTech
[18:52] <ScramTech> pfifo: lol... yeah right
[18:52] <paulo_gomes> gvim doesn't work well with 11.10. anyone have some tips?
[18:52] <MeQuerSat> meco: to get into #openbox you need to have a registered account on IRC
[18:52] <MeQuerSat> meco: you can do that by typing this in your IRC client: /msg NickServ help
[18:52] <meco> Well, my nick is registered...
[18:52] <ScramTech> thanks ubottu
[18:53] <``PeeR> Q-collective: the bug is there since I've installed 10.04 and I have upgraded since this time up to 11.10 and the bug is always there... Some people had the bug but they change something in firefox and the resolved the trouble... Not me. The bug is not just on firefox
[18:53] <fr4nky> can you play daoc on ubuntu now?
[18:53] <MeQuerSat> meco: then Identify by using /msg nickserv identify
[18:53] <paulo_gomes> the letters disapear
[18:53] <pdtpatrick> paulo_gomes .. define work well. you just need to install vim-gtk and then from terminal, type gvim. It should load up fine
[18:53] <meco> Iæm already that
[18:53] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: which mouse is it exactly?
[18:53] <oCean> meco: use #freenode for support
[18:53] <meco> oCean: ok
[18:53] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: do other mouses work correctly?
[18:53] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, the letters disapear
[18:54] <MeQuerSat> Jordan_U, I recall the ScramTech was running the server version of Ubuntu
[18:54] <``PeeR> Q-collective: microsoft intelimouse explorer 4.0A usb/ps2 compatible... (intelimouse my as*)
[18:54] <``PeeR> Q-collective: it works perfectly except the wheelup
[18:55] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, i'm gonna take a screenshot, just a moment
[18:55] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: does the wheelup on other mouses work?
[18:55] <subman> I have created a link to a directory and can open it no problem when I'm on the physical machine.  If I log in over FTP from a remote machine, I try to open the directory and it says that it does not exist.  Is this normal?
[18:55] <``PeeR> oh ok Q-collective other mouse... sorry... I have no other mouse... lol not at home thought..
[18:55] <Jordan_U> MeQuerSat: ScramTech: Indeed, ignore my comment about the alternate install CD as it's the same installer as on the Server install CD.
[18:55] <pdtpatrick> paulo_gomes, you mean as you type, the letters are overwritten ? u sure u don't have insert mode on? u might have something turned that is causing that. Try doing what you are attempting in plain vim (terminal) .. see if u get the same results
[18:55] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, vim in terminal works good
[18:55] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: right. It might be an issue with your computer's settings. We need to isolate that before saying the MS mouse is the root cause.
[18:55] <ScramTech> Jordan_u: no worries... I was wondering heheh.  If I just shut down the box and move the drives, will that suffice?  Or do I need to do a reinstall for detection?
[18:56] <meco> Apparently openbox doesn't have an irc channel, at least not on this network.
[18:56] <``PeeR> subman:  did you add the directory in shared dir in your ftp server?
[18:56] <jack-anton> bonsoir
[18:56] <fr4nky> how do i install ubu when im on win7?
[18:56] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, that depends on the fact if the drives are in a RAID already or JBOD
[18:56] <pfifo> ScramTech, you can setup softraid by hand, but it might be easier todo it from the install CD
[18:56] <``PeeR> Q-collective: i agree... it won't be the first time I have a trouble with a MS mouse ...
[18:56] <``PeeR> Q-collective: ok thx I'll try another mouse
[18:56] <MeQuerSat> fr4nky, download the Ubuntu iso file, burn it to a cd, reboot and boot from the CD
[18:57] <ScramTech> they were in a raid under windows... figured they will have to be wiped
[18:57] <pdtpatrick> paulo_gomes, .. try reinstalling? sudo apt-get remove --purge vim-gtk  .. and sudo apt-get install vim-gtk  ... or just sudo dpkg --reconfigure vim-gtk
[18:57] <MeQuerSat> fr4nky, you can also install ubuntu from inside Windows (Google "wubi")
[18:57] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: ok, good
[18:57] <fr4nky> so i should dl and burn to cd and then install?
[18:57] <jack-anton> J'ai un problème quand je lance des jeux comme super tux ou minecraft
[18:57] <meco> Can I instruct another default file manager when I'm in openbox compared to when I'm booting up normal?
[18:57] <urlin2u> fr4nky, with wubi or a virtual
[18:57] <Joshun> hi
[18:57] <ScramTech> pfifo:  no worries... it's a fresh install... easier to do over that way until I learn more
[18:57] <Joshun> after kernel updates
[18:57] <``PeeR> !fr | jack-anton
[18:57] <jack-anton> ils se quittent au obut de quelquesz secondes
[18:57] <BluesKaj> 1wubi
[18:57] <Joshun> ubuntu doesn't boot
[18:57] <BluesKaj> !wubi
[18:57] <oCean> !google > MeQuerSat
[18:57] <abstrakt> how do I add system services?
[18:57] <Joshun> and i have to run update-initramfs.distrib each time
[18:57] <abstrakt> er, I mean on startup
[18:57] <MeQuerSat> oCean, no need to do that ;)
[18:57] <Joshun> and then reinstall the kernels
[18:57] <abstrakt> mongodb is a service, but it doesn't start on boot
[18:58] <Joshun> is there a way to fix this?
[18:58] <HQRaja> Does anyone use Emesene here?
[18:58] <amin`> notification-properties
[18:58] <amin`> notification-properties: command not found
[18:58] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, gonna try that, thnks. here's the screenshot http://imagebin.org/187942
[18:58] <``PeeR> Q-collective: lol i found an other mouse, guess what... it is the same model... damn :(
[18:58] <oCean> MeQuerSat: then don't tell others to google
[18:58] <amin`> but i installed notification daemon
[18:58] <Q-collective> ``PeeR: :)
[18:58] <amin`> what should I installed also
[18:59] <MeQuerSat> ScramTech, if you dont have a problem with the drives being wiped, I would just plug them into the motherboard ports, reformat and have fun :)
[18:59] <``PeeR> Q-collective: I'll try it... brb
[18:59] <ScramTech> MeQuerSat:  Shutting down as we speak... here goes nothin'!  ;)
[19:00] <OerHeks> ScramTech, your  HighPoint RocketRAID 2640x4, did you enter the raid bios like the manual tells you when the raid adapter shows up on boot, by pressing CTRL + H  ? http://www.highpoint-tech.cn/USA/rr2640x4.htm
[19:01] <ScramTech> OerHeks:  I did... the drives are already configured
[19:01] <ScramTech> and they were operational under a windows install
[19:01] <Exxon> OerHeks, ScramTech don't read or don't want to read anything..that's all
[19:01] <meco> OK, then, plan B. How do I change the system defaults in general, in this case with respect to file manager?
[19:02] <ScramTech> Exxon: that's not true
[19:02] <pdtpatrick_> paulo_gomes: looks like your colorscheme is screwy.. try :colorscheme wombat
[19:02] <pdtpatrick_> and see what happens
[19:02] <pdtpatrick_> paulo_gomes: you can also try asking in #vim
[19:03] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, i've tryed various colorschemes :(
[19:03] <OerHeks> ScramTech, you want to boot from this raid too ? then you have to set the boot mark
[19:03] <paulo_gomes> pdtpatrick, thanks i will ask there
[19:03] <ScramTech> OerHeks: no, I have a separate boot drive
[19:04] <ScramTech> just for storage
[19:04] <OerHeks> after that, it should be working OOTB
[19:04] <pfifo> ScramTech, obivously you have a HDD alread in your box that you can boot from
[19:04] <ScramTech> yes indeed pfifo... and installer didn't see the raid array... which is why I was trying to figure out the open source drivers
[19:05] <Exxon> HQRaja, so what with the Emesene then
[19:05] <HQRaja> Exxon: I was wondering how can I sign in with both MSN and GTalk
[19:05] <jack-anton> Bonsoir
[19:06] <jack-anton> J'ai un soucis
[19:06] <webnet> Semba and kasii pm me i cant open the pm on my own on mobile
[19:06] <HQRaja> Exxon: It does support both (those are the only two IM services I use) but after signing in with my MSN account, I can't find an option to add a GTalk account without having to sign out the MSN account
[19:06] <Tebyghenya> MeQuerSat, blackbit: thanks, this will fix my problems.
[19:06] <Tebyghenya> Hey, I am tired of delete three big logs from /var/log. How to order Ubuntu not to save log (or at least not so big)?
[19:07] <semba> just did pm you webnet
[19:07] <Exxon> HQRaja, i use pigdin simple and easy yeh! thats me
[19:07] <pfifo> Tebyghenya, the program logrotate can fix that for you
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> irssi is simpler, still
[19:07] <nsaquatics> MeQuerSat, here is the pastebin... http://pastebin.com/4rsQFqPq
[19:07] <HQRaja> Exxon: Yeah pidgin's good too, and so is Empathy. I just like the looks of Emesene more (coming from Windows)
[19:08] <zan_> i can't find any computer help channels
[19:08] <Tebyghenya> pfifo: ok, let's try.
[19:08] <zan_> so i thought maybe
[19:08] <zan_> ubuntu could help me.
[19:08] <zan_> although i'm on windows rite now
[19:08] <oCean> zan_: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[19:08] <oCean> zan_: there is a ##windows channel for windows support
[19:08] <zan_> oCean: orite
[19:09] <zan_> oCean: but my problem goes into keyboard keys.
[19:09] <zan_> oCean: so this is general computer help.
[19:09] <oCean> zan_: there is also a channel #hardware. Anyway, it's offtopic here
[19:09] <meco> How do I change the system defaults in general, in this case with respect to file manager? I want it to be thunar rather than nautilus
[19:11] <OerHeks> ScramTech, as i try to understand, you want to wipe the drives anyway, why don't you initialise the drives again like the 1st use, and start fresh
[19:11] <Tebyghenya> pfifo: can you explain, in two or three lines, how to use it?
[19:12] <pfifo> Tebyghenya, no I cant, I dont know how :( youll have to read the manual, 'man logrotate'
[19:12] <ScramTech> OerHeks: well they are already initialized (and that takes a long time on 4x1TB drives).  I had assumed I would reformat them once I got the system to see them.
[19:12] <meco> Why does thos line in /etc/fstab cause the boot sequence to halt and not mount the ntfs partition: UUID=E6B08D1CB08CF479 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 2
[19:13] <meco> this
[19:13] <OerHeks> ScramTech, i am not sure a raid solution formatted by windows is the distubing factor
[19:13] <dr_willis> meco:  try 'sudo mount /mnt/windows' and see if an error message is given
[19:14] <corey_> hello
[19:14] <ImTheDude> how do i change ubuntu splash screeen
[19:15] <dr_willis> !plymouth | ImTheDude
[19:16] <Sivik> what is a good vpn client for ubuntu?
[19:16] <meco> dr_willis: Well, my problem isn't mounting from the command line but from the boot. This works from the prompt: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows
[19:16] <dr_willis> meco:  any actual error messages given?
[19:16] <Sivik> dr_willis, you ever set up pptpd and get it working to allow windows clients to register without any issues
[19:16] <dr_willis> meco:  does 'sudo mount /mnt/windows' work?
[19:17] <Nopel> how to use read in commandline?
[19:17] <dr_willis> Sivik:  Nope.
[19:17] <Sivik> darnit
[19:17] <``PeeR> Q-collective: same trouble with the other mouse
[19:17] <dr_willis> Nopel:  'read variablename'  I think..
[19:17] <Nopel> only y / n may be used
[19:17] <pfifo> meco, you need to change ntfs-3g to ntfs in your /etc/fstab
[19:17] <Exxon> ImTheDude, god be with you............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57JCdx3bjg
[19:17] <dr_willis> read: usage: read [-ers] [-a array] [-d delim] [-i text] [-n nchars] [-N nchars] [-p prompt] [-t timeout] [-u fd] [name ...]
[19:18] <dr_willis> from 'read --help' :)
[19:18] <meco> dr_willis: Well, my problem isn't mounting from the command line but from the boot.
[19:18] <meco> sorry..
[19:18] <meco> pfifo: OK!
[19:18] <dr_willis> meco:  does 'sudo mount /mnt/windows' work - it did not seem to give the same optiuonas as your command line.
[19:18] <fr4nky> how do you find if you have virus's on wins from ubuntu?
[19:19] <meco> dr_willis: No, it didn't because it was already mointed
[19:19] <dr_willis> meco:  the tool 'ntfs-config' i think can add a entry to the fstab for you
[19:19] <dr_willis> meco:  so unmount it. :)
[19:19] <dr_willis> fr4nky:  use clamav  is one way
[19:20] <Vustom> Can someone please help me? I made my Windows partition have less space and the boot loader stopped working for it, so I fixed that, but while I was trying to fix it I stuffed up GRUB, GRUB now loads on /dev/sda1 which is the Windows partition instead of /dev/sda. I did this by flagged /dev/sda1 as boot in gparted, but when I realized what it did I unflagged it as boot, then reinstalled GRUB and set it to install on /dev/sda but it d
[19:20] <urlin2u> fr4nky, bitdefender and avast have linux versions, I would just download one og=f the many av apps you can run from a booted cd.
[19:20] <fr4nky> is that win based?
[19:20] <dr_willis> fr4nky:  most of the linux av apps.. also have windows versions.
[19:20] <dr_willis> many of the companies have linux-live cds also with their av software on them.
[19:20] <fr4nky> ty
[19:20] <meco> dr_willis: umount: /mnt/windows: device is busy.
[19:21] <urlin2u> fr4nky, http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/
[19:21] <dr_willis> meco:  close out all apps, and shells that are accessing it.
[19:22] <meco> dr_willis: Now it mounted
[19:22] <curioso> Brasil?
[19:22] <pfifo> Vustom, remove grub from /dev/sda1 and any config files that it placed on /dev/sda1 and then reinstall grub to the proper place
[19:23] <Vustom> pfifo: In my C:\ drive which I believe is /dev/sda1, it has a folder called grub
[19:23] <pfifo> Vustom, delete it
[19:23] <meco> I'll attempt to reboot with the change pfifo gave me
[19:24] <Vustom> pfifo: But I deleted it before, booted up a live CD and put this in the terminal; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917 but it didn't work, just went back to /dev/sda1
[19:24] <OerHeks> pfifo, just found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856162 for ScramTech .. it could be working.
[19:25] <curioso> ???
[19:25] <samthewildone> How to update ubuntu software center to support adobe reader ?
[19:25] <ScramTech> OerHeks GoogleFu is much better than mine.  I'm going to attempt this now and see if it works for me
[19:26] <pfifo> !grub | Vustom
[19:26] <curioso> ?????????????
[19:26] <pfifo> Vustom, use the standard method for restoring grub
[19:26] <Vustom> pfifo: That's complex though :(
[19:26] <BluesKaj> curioso, have a question ?
[19:26] <curioso> BR?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> !br
[19:27] <curioso> Language from Brazil?
[19:27] <pfifo> Vustom, yeah but it works, while you GUI to obivously dosent
[19:27] <chilversc> how can I relaunch metacity in my current session?
[19:27] <``PeeR> for my mousewheel trouble, forums tell me to edit xorg.cong ... file that I do not have..
[19:27] <pfifo> tool*
[19:27] <dr_willis> chilversc:  'metacity --replace' normally
[19:27] <curioso> no speak ingles
[19:27] <theadmin> !br | curioso
[19:27] <chilversc> dr_willis: yes, but where does one run that if metacity isn't running?
[19:28] <dr_willis> chilversc:  any terminal, or cosole. after using 'export DISPLAY=0.0'
[19:28] <benoliver999> ``PeeR: It's xorg.conf
[19:28] <theadmin> dr_willis: You mean :0.0, of course ;)
[19:28] <``PeeR> yeah benoliver999
[19:28] <samthewildone> How to update ubuntu software center to support adobe reader ?
[19:28] <Nopel> where to find more info about read -n
[19:28] <``PeeR> benoliver999: I don't have it in X11
[19:28] <chilversc> dr_willis: ah right, and how do I run it in such away its not attached to the current process? the same way it does when its launched via whatever starts X?
[19:28] <arios> salam
[19:29] <arios> hello
[19:29] <theadmin> samthewildone: We won't support that. There are many better free alternatives.
[19:29] <arios> hello
[19:29] <samthewildone> theadmin: what are the alternatives ?
[19:29] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:30] <Vustom> pfifo: Do I just do the Copy LiveCD Files part, or Purge & Reinstall?
[19:30] <theadmin> samthewildone: I think Evince should come preinstalled. There are also Okular, xpdf and quite a few others, can't remember em all right off the bat
[19:30] <curioso> ok
[19:30] <Myrtti> samthewildone: the one that is installed by default has all the features I've ever needed
[19:30] <FreezingCold> I just dd'd the iso of Ubuntu 11.04, but I can't seem to boot off of it!
[19:30] <chilversc> hmm, that isn't working, its giving me "Unable to open X display 0.0"
[19:30] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Ubuntu versions earlier than 11.10 do not support dd'ing
[19:30] <theadmin> chilversc: It should be :0.0 (with a colon in front)
[19:30] <chilversc> ah, its :0.0
[19:31] <FreezingCold> theadmin: oops, it was 11.10 amd64
[19:31] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Oh, then it's rather odd
[19:31] <chilversc> ah bugger it, this X session has gone to hell, again
[19:31] <FreezingCold> shouldn't I be able to mount it within my current distro if it's working?
[19:31] <pfifo> Vustom, you have to boot a livecd, mount your / and /boot run grub-install specifying the --root-directory
[19:31] <meco> I did fet the ntfs partition to mount on boot, but only by ignoring the halt on boot that said: Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /mnt/windows
[19:31] <chilversc> I appear to have lost the launcher bar as well :s
[19:31] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Yeah should be able to
[19:32] <FreezingCold> theadmin: hmm I'm not seeing it
[19:32] <meco> That's not acceptable on a system that may be booted by many people
[19:32] <theadmin> FreezingCold: How did you dd it? You are aware that you should dd to a drive and not a partition, correct?
[19:33] <FreezingCold> theadmin: yeah, "sudo dd if=ubuntublahlah11.10.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=2M""
[19:33] <gil> cant you dd into a file?
[19:33] <theadmin> FreezingCold: That should of worked
[19:33] <theadmin> gil: Yeah: dd if=/dev/sdxy of=filename.dd
[19:33] <FreezingCold> theadmin: Do you know how I could try mounting it?
[19:34] <theadmin> FreezingCold: mount -o loop DEVICE MOUNTPOINT # Shoulda work
[19:34] <gil> try using -loop
[19:34] <FreezingCold> says I need to specify the filesystem type
[19:34] <theadmin> FreezingCold: That's odd... Should not happen >.<
[19:35] <FreezingCold> Do I need to maybe reformat the whole thing first?
[19:35] <Vustom> pfifo: So, "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt" then "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda"? I'm only guessing, I'm no good at this. :D
[19:35] <theadmin> Ubuntu is such an Ubuntu... And no, FreezingCold, you shouldn't need to
[19:36] <FreezingCold> hmm, maybe my image is corrupt
[19:36] <FreezingCold> bd6a1be4d070bce3b313f47e9e19bff3 is my md5sum
[19:36] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Could be so, I suggest you use the torrents or at least md5 the iso
[19:36] <pfifo> Vustom, no, what partition is you ubuntu installed under?
[19:36] <FreezingCold> ahhh, this seems to be the issue :P
[19:36] <FreezingCold> seems like my image is trashed
[19:37] <Vustom> pfifo: sda3 or 5 I think, but I'll figure that out when I open up gparted (in windows atm)
[19:37] <FreezingCold> What's your md5sum of 11.10 amd64 desktop?
[19:37] <Vustom> pfifo: 98% sure it's sda3
[19:37] <theadmin> FreezingCold: 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459 is the md5sum you need...
[19:37] <pfifo> Vustom, did you use a seperate partition for /boot
[19:37] <FreezingCold> wait, but I'm done downloading and I'm sending it...
[19:37] <theadmin> FreezingCold: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/MD5SUMS
[19:38] <Vustom> pfifo: I didn't change anything on the Ubuntu install.. so whatever the default is
[19:38] <FreezingCold> theadmin: lol I used ktorrent to check my data and it just deleted all of it :P
[19:38] <Vustom> pfifo: I'm using the latest Ubuntu official release, I forgot what that's called too. :D
[19:38] <FreezingCold> so I'm guessing it got messed up big time
[19:38] <theadmin> FreezingCold: lol... xD
[19:38] <pfifo> Vustom, ok then you would want (if it is in face sda3) `"sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda`
[19:39] <pfifo> fact*
[19:39] <FreezingCold> I'm so glad I have unlimited bandwidth, or I'd be raging right now
[19:39] <Cataclysm> phonon isnt showing my soundcard. google didn't help. any advice?
[19:39] <Cataclysm> im getting sound, but really bad stuttering
[19:39] <Cataclysm> using pulse audio
[19:39] <theadmin> FreezingCold: lol xD It's weird tho... Torrents don't usually get corrupted...
[19:39] <Vustom> pfifo: Thanks, and I delete the grub from C:\ in Windows and that should be all fixed? :D
[19:40] <FreezingCold> theadmin: Probably my filesystem screwed it up
[19:40] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Could be, who knows
[19:40] <pfifo> Vustom, it should be, deleting grub from c: might be all you need, but restoring gurb in addition is your best bet
[19:41] <Vustom> pfifo: I tried that before, it boots into an error :p
[19:41] <FreezingCold> theadmin: going to check my other livecd's and see what happened
[19:42] <HQRaja> How do I set Empathy to organize my contacts by online/offline only, hiding all groups (without deleting the groups)?
[19:43] <nsaquatics> Can anybody help me with this driver build problem? : http://pastebin.com/4rsQFqPq
[19:44] <maujhsn> Need some help! I am booting from a liveUSB ubuntu 10.04 for the first time. I am using a 8 GB USB! Why does casper-rw use up 4 GB of disk space?
[19:44] <Vustom> pfifo: Thanks again :)
[19:44] <FreezingCold> Yeah, my other LiveCD is trashed too
[19:44] <pfifo> np
[19:44] <FreezingCold> hmm, ktorrent seems to be messing up...
[19:44] <theadmin> FreezingCold: I use qbittorrent myself
[19:44] <urlin2u> maujhsn, for saving stuff
[19:44] <theadmin> FreezingCold: It's also KDE-ish, altough less dependent on kde
[19:44] <salty> i use qbittorrent too
[19:45] <FreezingCold> ktorrent is totally dependent on KDE
[19:45] <FreezingCold> transmission used to panic my buggy kernel, although I went back to stable now
[19:45] <pfifo> transmission is the best bit-torrent client of all time
[19:45] <FreezingCold> gtg eat
[19:45] <theadmin> FreezingCold: qbittorrent is pretty neat actually, checkzit, it's... neat :D
[19:45] <airtonix> i have a 64bit cpu and os, if i want 64bit wine on 11.10 do i have to compile it ?
[19:45] <salty> qbittorrent allows for searches and can be used in winblows too
[19:46] <HQRaja> How about Deluge?
[19:46] <maujhsn> urlin2u OK!
[19:46] <HQRaja> Deluge is pretty damn good
[19:46] <Cataclysm> anyone know why pulse audio might be stuttering in ubuntu 11?
[19:47] <maujhsn> urlin2u What is the maximum number of programs you would install on one USB?
[19:47] <fr4nky> any can invite me to torrentleech?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> salty, certainprivate  trackers like thebox in the UK don't allow the qBittorrent client due to it's non ID to the tracker
[19:47] <pfifo> airtonix, I dont think there is a wine64 package yet, but there might be a ppa
[19:48] <w30> Cataclysm, related to Mel Tillis probably
[19:48] <salty> ohhhhh ok, thnx BluesKaj
[19:48] <urlin2u> maujhsn, hard to answer that, the casper will get full and is not cleanable, your better with a full install on the usb if you just want to boot from it for ubuntu.
[19:48] <Cataclysm> w30 mel tillis?
[19:48] <Cataclysm> is that a joke
[19:48] <theadmin> FreezingCold: http://i.imm.io/cLrk.png - qbittorrent web UI. The real GUI looks pretty much identical :D
[19:49] <maujhsn> urlin2u Would it be beter to use a 16 GB liveUSB?
[19:49] <MisterMom> Cataclysm, i have the same problem but yet to find a answer
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, did you setup the device preference in phonon and then in pulseaudio in the audio hardware setup
[19:49] <w30> Cataclysm, sorry inside joke. Mel Tillis is a country & western singer that stutters except when singing
[19:50] <urlin2u> maujhsn, sure depends on your needs the usb will run a little slower in all though.
[19:50] <Cataclysm> MisterMom sigh. phonon doesnt show my sound card anymore. ill take a look at pulseaudio options
[19:50] <maujhsn> urlin2u I do not want to install ubuntu on my laptop!
[19:50] <salty> urlin2u, using the USB for a writable LiveISO is just like using a 8GB computer, you'll have to check to see how big the apps are before installing
[19:51] <urlin2u> salty, maujhsn is the one you want to adress. :D
[19:51] <salty> oh sorry
[19:51] <MisterMom> Cataclysm,  i went back to 11.04 as i could not fix the problem
[19:51] <salty> maujhsn,  using the USB for a writable LiveISO is just like using a 8GB computer, you'll have to check to see how big the apps are before installing
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, MisterMom, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[19:51] <derp> yes hello
[19:51] <twocarlo> cant get jigdo to work cant resume the download of .iso
[19:51] <airtonix> derp, umad?
[19:51] <Cataclysm> BluesKaj saw that, no help
[19:52] <maujhsn> urlin2u I notice that the liveUSB  is slower, but I am not troubled by it!
[19:52] <semba> webnet and kasii are you still there?
[19:52] <airtonix> pfifo: that's unfortunate
[19:52] <urlin2u> maujhsn, I have used a usb at times myself not really that much slower in my experience
[19:53] <MisterMom> BluesKaj,  seen that already was no help for me at least
[19:53] <Nopel> how to use or in while ?
[19:53] <maujhsn> salty Thanks for the info!
[19:53] <salty> np
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, did you run the install,  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[19:53] <urlin2u> maujhsn, main advantage with a full install is being able to clean it, so you have enough romm, the casper-rw is not cleanable and you are running the ISO not a install.
[19:53] <HQRaja> How do I set Empathy to organize my contacts by online/offline only, hiding all groups (without deleting the groups)?
[19:54] <MisterMom> BluesKaj,  i think it has somthing to do with the new kernel
[19:54] <maujhsn> salty How would I make a backup LiveUSB for the one that I am currently using?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> Cataclysm, after running those installs a reboot is usually in order as well
[19:54] <Cataclysm> BluesKaj - yes i didnt reboot though
[19:54] <Cataclysm> i will do so now
[19:54] <Cataclysm> thnk you
[19:55] <clint_> hh
[19:55] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[19:55] <Tech-1> ksplice ?
[19:55] <hobbel> Can someone explain me why a freshly made NTFS filesystem (Gparted) is not clean, and will not mount RW?
[19:56] <theadmin> hobbel: How are you mounting it?
[19:56] <sanjayb> just installed ubuntu on an msi cr430 laptop. wireless drivers seem to not show up at all . anyone around who can try and help? dont find anything on google ..
[19:56] <maujhsn> urlin2u In the past I have install ubuntu on my computer! This time I choose not to!
[19:56] <pfifo> urlin2u, you can clean casper-rw `mke2fs -L casper-rw /dev/sdb2`
[19:56] <hobbel> theadmin just default mount, but force mount on rw doesnt work either
[19:56] <fatih> hello everyone , where i can download animated wallpapers for linux ?
[19:56] <theadmin> hobbel: Err, let me see... "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdx50 /mnt" or something like this, correct?
[19:57] <hobbel> theadmin just default mount, but force mount on rw doesnt work either. nfsfix tells me volume is corrupt and CHKDISK should be run. CHKDISK thinks its alright
[19:57] <urlin2u> maujhsn, no problem just use the other option and make sure the ubuntu's grub goes to the mbr of the usb, you have a recovery or install for the windows I assume if you need to reload its boot to the mbr.
[19:57] <theadmin> hobbel: You're using ntfs-3g as fstype, not "ntfs", right?
[19:57] <theadmin> hobbel: Because the "ntfs" driver has no rw support >.<
[19:57] <hobbel> theadmin yes, and it tells me warning: its read only
[19:57] <theadmin> hobbel: Hm, that's weird
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel, chkdisk /f , have you tried?
[19:58] <urlin2u> pfifo, sure but you loose all the updates etc.
[19:58] <hobbel> sanjayb in windows you mean?
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel: yes.
[19:58] <hobbel> sanjayb chkdisk doesnt work in linux right?
[19:58] <hobbel> sanjayb it tells me the drive is fine
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel: no, in windows - you said you tried chkdisk, so i assume you had some way to access it on windows
[19:58] <sanjayb> hobbel: hmm .. and you mount and unmount (shutdown) cleanly in windows, and it still wont mount rw in ubuntu?
[19:59] <hobbel> sanjayb yes, thats the weird part. It should function
[19:59] <sanjayb> hobbel: what version of ubuntu ?
[19:59] <hobbel> sanjayb Gparted tells me it cant fix it, but its not clean. Ubuntu 11.10
[19:59] <urlin2u> pfifo, If I was going to use a casper I would make it a parttion and big enough myself
[19:59] <sanjayb> hobbel: did you try -o force ? (not that i would recommend it ... )
[19:59] <hobbel> sanjayb tried that, refuses
[20:00] <Dj_FlyBy> I am having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04 freezing during boot now that I activated a restricted driver for my ATI Radeon HD3450. Any suggestions to fix this please?
[20:00] <salty> maujhsn, try clonezilla
[20:00] <theadmin> !nomodeset | Dj_FlyBy
[20:00] <mongy> Dj_FlyBy, revert back to the open source driver
[20:00] <sanjayb> hobbel: truly strange.
[20:00] <hobbel> sanjayb thats what i thought, I have to note I close it in Win8 Dev Preview though
[20:01] <hobbel> sanjayb but also tried it with WinXP a few days ago
[20:02] <sanjayb> hobbel: Win8 Dev preview .. oo, sounds scary ;) .. you sure it was the same problem with WinXP though? or that would be really interesting ..
[20:02] <maujhsn> salty is clonezilla an ubuntu package?
[20:02] <hobbel> sanjayb yes it was, thats what started the problem actually. The drive has been in lots of computers so i do suspect its the drive
[20:02] <hobbel> sanjayb but i would think a full repartition would fix that right?
[20:03] <salty> i don't think so
[20:03] <urlin2u> maujhsn, here is a link for yah.  http://clonezilla.org/
[20:03] <salty> thnx urlin2u
[20:03] <theadmin> hobbel: As for "full repartition": sudo fdisk /dev/sdx <<< "o" # Erases all partitions on a drive, creates an empty MBR partition table.
[20:03] <sanjayb> hobbel: hm .. if its physical errors on the drive or so, may behave strange ..
[20:03] <optimusM> can logcat run on a terminal with another terminal
[20:04] <hobbel> theadmin I assume gparted does the same right?
[20:04] <urlin2u> maujhsn, excellent cloner and if you want to put the saved image in another partition you can tweak the image.
[20:04] <theadmin> hobbel: Possibly, I don't quite remember gparted much
[20:04] <hobbel> sanjayb I should indeed check the drive itsself... maybe ntfs-3g is a bit more picky on drive errors
[20:04] <theadmin> hobbel: I only ever use it for resizing stuff lol
[20:04] <optimusM> like if im building something in one terminal can i logcat that terminal?
[20:04] <urlin2u> maujhsn, in a different partiton number that is say from sda1 to sda2
[20:05] <zippa_13_geek> hi
[20:05] <sanjayb> hobbel: something like this, i would guess.
[20:06] <hobbel> sanjayb 12 bad sectors giving it a "Warning" in SMART
[20:06] <bobble> hi guys
[20:06] <bobble> a i have a question
[20:06] <Dr_Willis1> Hmm..  the ubuntu installer could be a little more.. err.. exacting in its terms.
[20:06] <pfifo> optimusM, you can direct the output to a /dev/tty or a /dev/pts
[20:07] <Dr_Willis1> Wanting to install to a second hard drive. and not touch windows.. and it seems to imply i have to resize.. :)
[20:07] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: Thanks, Ill try that now
[20:07] <sanjayb> hobbel: thats probably it, then :-) .. you probably dont want to be mounting the drive then.
[20:07] <bobble> if i have shortcut on desktop ... how can i figure out the console command to start this shortcut from console?
[20:07] <wind> is there any way to make unity not show the application name at top bar, and show the menus for selected window always? I think it silly to have to hover with mouse to see where I really should move the mouse to, and there's not enough space for the app name so it gets cut too :)
[20:07] <theadmin> bobble: Um, see what the shortcut is pointing to in it's properties
[20:07] <Gentoo64> bobble: right click the shortcut and view the command
[20:08] <hobbel> sanjayb I'm glad I have a back up :)
[20:09] <ich__> Anybody here ever recompiled Xorg?
[20:09] <luke-jr> I'm having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11518055 … but the update is no longer merely "proposed", it's standard…
[20:09] <solton36> salut à tous
[20:09] <luke-jr> any ideas?
[20:09] <bobble> mhhh i want to optirun (bumblebee) QLPrism
[20:09] <solton36> un français ici
[20:09] <theadmin> ich__: Gentoo64 probably has :D
[20:09] <bobble> this is a quake live client
[20:09] <sanjayb> hobbel: hm .. a bit strange there isn't some way to force the mount, but i guess probably an ntfs-3g issue or so
[20:09] <semba> oui,mais va sur ubuntu-fr pourde l'aide en français
[20:09] <solton36> ok
[20:09] <solton36> merci
[20:09] <pfifo> ich__, I have
[20:09] <ich__> Trying to recompile xorg: apt-get the sources, config, make,  have a binary, swap it out with /usr/bin/Xorg  and it complains : no drivers available, no screens found    do i have to do the drivers too?
[20:10] <maujhsn> salty I will make a note of the partition info that you sent me! That could come in handy for me some day!
[20:10] <sanjayb> um, does anyone have the link to the ubuntu laptop database where it lists tests for different laptops? can't seem to find anything on this msi cr430 a friend just bought ..
[20:10] <HQRaja> How do I set Empathy to organize my contacts by online/offline only, hiding all groups (without deleting the groups)?
[20:10] <hobbel> sanjayb maybe its just a security feature..
[20:11] <pfifo> ich__, you may need to provide the correct directory that X should look in for drivers
[20:11] <xuser1> hi
[20:11] <sanjayb> hobbel: but that's what i thought -o force was for :/ - anyhow :)
[20:11] <xuser1> the nvidia driver doesnt work in gnome fallback mode
[20:11] <xuser1> :-D
[20:11] <Gentoo64> ich__: what are you trying to sovle?
[20:12] <Gentoo64> solve
[20:12] <maujhsn> urlin2u, salty Take Care, & thanks!
[20:12] <urlin2u> maujhsn, you to as well
[20:12] <salty> maujhsn, you too
[20:12] <xuser1> any ideas? i have nvidia gf6100 nf405 and ubuntu ggome shell remix 11.10
[20:12] <xuser1> ?
[20:13] <luke-jr> xuser1: get a decent video chipset ;)
[20:13] <luke-jr> like Intel
[20:13] <JabberWalkie_> install windows 7?
[20:13] <xuser1> i have the same issue on mint 12 based on ubuntu 11.10
[20:13] <Gentoo64> JabberWalkie_: bit random..
[20:14] <xuser1> the video driver work perfectly on gnome 3 , but doesnt work in fallback mode
[20:14] <xuser1> any ideas?
[20:14] <urlin2u> JabberWalkie_, can you elaborate
[20:14] <JabberWalkie_> nope
[20:14] <luke-jr> xuser1: nvidia is garbage, no surprise
[20:14] <Gentoo64> luke-jr: dont be silly
[20:14] <luke-jr> so anyhow, I'm afraid I won't be able to boot with my system as is… the upgrade seems to have killed it
[20:14] <urlin2u> JabberWalkie_, excellent I was hoping so.
[20:15] <xuser1> but it work perfectly in gnoime 3 mode
[20:15] <Gentoo64> everyone knows nvidia owns all
[20:15] <luke-jr> Gentoo64: no way, nvidia is the worst
[20:15] <luke-jr> on Linux
[20:15] <Gentoo64> ati fanboy?
[20:15] <FreezingCold> theadmin: there we go, redownloaded Ubuntu and now it has the right md5sum
[20:15] <luke-jr> I switched to Intel this year.
[20:15] <Gentoo64> luke-jr: lol ok
[20:15] <luke-jr> Intel's new GPUs blow nvidia and ATi aways
[20:15] <Gentoo64> lol
[20:15] <Gentoo64> funny guy
[20:15] <FreezingCold> Gentoo64: Why is Gentoo in Ubuntu? :P
[20:16] <MisterMom> luke-jr,  so buy us all one then
[20:16] <xuser1> how can i verify if nvidia driver work in gnome fallback mode?
[20:16] <Gentoo64> im not "gentoo"
[20:16] <Dr_Willis1> !info gentoo
[20:16] <luke-jr> MisterMom: nah
[20:16] <FreezingCold> xuser1: try fallback mode?
[20:16] <zxiest[a]> Hello :-)
[20:16] <MisterMom> cheepo
[20:16] <xuser1> im using fallback mode
[20:16] <xuser1> i hate gnome shell
[20:16] <FreezingCold> xuser1: then try using the driver?
[20:17] <Gentoo64> xuser1: do what everyone else does and use somethign else
[20:17] <JabberWalkie_> xuser1, try swapping out different graphics cards until you find one that works
[20:17] <theadmin> FreezingCold: Good
[20:17] <Dr_Willis1> I have very few issues with Unity or gnome-shell :)
[20:17] <FreezingCold> theadmin: writing it now :D
[20:17] <xuser1> hmmm
[20:17] <Tech-1> Nvidia ftw
[20:17] <FreezingCold> I turned off my Nvidia card
[20:17] <Dr_Willis1> at least its not a S3 :)
[20:17] <FreezingCold> So there
[20:17] <xuser1> gnome fallback mode is like gnome 2 , can add delete panels , applets etc
[20:18] <JabberWalkie_> psh, your graphics card chipset sucks! I hate the chipset you like!
[20:18] <Dr_Willis1> I rember when Matrox was a big name in video cards.
[20:18] <FreezingCold> I have a GT540M 1GB that's totally disabled, TAKE THAT
[20:18] <Tech-1> lol
[20:19] <MisterMom> yeah graphics wars
[20:19] <Tech-1> chocolate pudding ftw
[20:19] <FreezingCold> I'm using a Intel integrated card now
[20:19] <xuser1> so , i cant fix this problem?
[20:19] <JabberWalkie_> my graphics can beat up yer graphics
[20:19] <paissad> how do you save/backup your private gpg keys ? (usb key ? mail box ? ...)
[20:19] <xuser1> :-D
[20:19] <MisterMom> lol
[20:19] <Dr_Willis1> Tech-1:  Tapiapicca!
[20:19] <Tech-1> Yeah
[20:20] <Gentoo64> paissad: you could encrypt something like a usb stick and put them there
[20:20] <Gentoo64> or on a cd stored away
[20:20] <Gentoo64> whatevetr you want
[20:20] <paissad> Gentoo64,"whatever" i know, .. but i meant a reasonable safe solution :
[20:20] <JabberWalkie_> put them on a 3.5in floppy disk, no one will be be able to read it anyways
[20:21] <FreezingCold> OK, why is my USB light blinking for NO reason?
[20:21] <FreezingCold> card to explain?
[20:21] <paissad> i 1st backed up in a usb key, and the usb key broke up
[20:21] <xuser1> ubuntu tweak work in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:21] <Dr_Willis1> I have flash drives that always blink when plugged in.
[20:21] <Gentoo64> paissad: encrypt a usb stick with truecrypt, thats easy and very secure
[20:21] <FreezingCold> Dr_Willis1: It shouldn't be
[20:21] <FreezingCold> going to reboot...
[20:21] <FreezingCold> oh wait
[20:21] <paissad> Gentoo64, ok thanks
[20:21] <FreezingCold> it stopped
[20:21] <Gentoo64> paissad: or encrypt a cd and put on that
[20:21] <paissad> Gentoo64, i prefer the usb key encrypted, thanks
[20:21] <Bodsda> FreezingCold: ... got anything running on it? Music playing, file copy etc etc? Take it out, put it back in see what happens
[20:22] <Dr_Willis1> also stuff can still be syncing to the key after you stop using it..
[20:22] <Tech-1> ^
[20:22] <FreezingCold> hmm dunno, it stopped
[20:23] <FreezingCold> seems like my ubuntu liveusb is all done now
[20:23] <FreezingCold> going to try booting it now!
[20:23] <Tech-1> its the nsa, theyre checking up on you
[20:23] <MisterMom> lol
[20:27] <hath001> Hi all i am looking for WMV player
[20:27] <hath001> ?
[20:27] <Bodsda> hath001: VLC will play WMV files
[20:27] <shankysv87> how do i get b43 to load on boot in u11.10?
[20:27] <Dr_Willis1> it depends more on the CODEC the wmv is using...
[20:28] <hath001> not working for me
[20:28] <Bodsda> shankysv87: on boot or on login?
[20:28] <Bodsda> hath001: load from the terminal, get any errors?
[20:28] <hath001> what can i do please?
[20:28] <pfifo> is http://downloadmoreram.com compatible with ubuntu?
[20:28] <shankysv87> login.
[20:28] <buster1> What's the best way to get drivers for nvidia? With a clean installation of 11.10 my displays aren't recognised, and I don't know how to stop the X server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. do nothing). With the "nvidia-current" package, the x server doesn't start on boot, and if I "start lightdm" or "startx" myself (from the Ctr-Alt-F1 terminal) it behaves strangely. I have a P8P67 mobo, i7 2600K, GTX 570, two displays.
[20:28] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  determine the codec the wmv is using. run vlc from terminal, try to play the file. look at output in teh terminal
[20:29] <buster1> (Need to stop X to run the Nvidia driver installer.)
[20:29] <shankysv87> after login i'm required to put in sudo modprobe b43 each time for it to load my wireless adapter... after it loads it, everything is dandy until next restart.
[20:29] <hath001> i get this "No suitable decoder module:
[20:29] <hath001> VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
[20:30] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  very likely its some drm or other protected specialized codec.
[20:30] <urlin2u> !b43 | shankysv87
[20:30] <Gentoo64> hath001, never heard of it
[20:30] <Bodsda> shankysv87: search for 'startup' - although you'll have to use gksudo to get the password prompt
[20:30] <hath001> :(
[20:30] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  dare i ask where this wmv came from?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> luke-jr, have you tried to configure intel graphics on linux , not the brand new stuff , the ordinary affordable cards
[20:31] <hath001> Linux LPIC-1 Series
[20:31] <Bodsda> hath001: ... send it back and demand a 'proper' format
[20:31] <Dr_Willis1> hath001:  whats lpic?
[20:31] <marcuy> I've enabled userdir module but when I try to load some public_html/test.php file it doesn't recognize such file as a php one and tries to download it, any ideas?
[20:32] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis1: Linux professional institute certification
[20:32] <buster1> I guess I'll uninstall "nvidia-current" and try again with the installer from Nvidia.
[20:32] <Dr_Willis1> Bodsda:  copy protected DRM files.....
[20:32] <Dr_Willis1> http://hintsforums.macworld.com/showthread.php?t=98723        mentions it...
[20:32] <shankysv87> urlin2u: i've followed that step in the past to get it to work on a single session but after reboot, i have to run those sudo commands each time. The driver is there but blacklisted for whatever reason until overriding with root.
[20:32] <Bodsda> marcuy: yeah, typical issue with apache and php files - run   /etc/init.d/apache2 restart     (or something to that affect)
[20:32] <hath001> ok thanks
[20:33] <marcuy> Bodsda, I've already restarted it but nothing happens :(
[20:33] <Bodsda> marcuy: nothing happens? meaning nothing changes or nothing restarts?
[20:33] <Dr_Willis1> Bodsda:  i seem to recall seeing some people mention that Institute in here befor. :)
[20:33] <urlin2u> shankysv87, well your in the right place to get that fixed, I would look on the ubuntu forums as well, maybe even start a thread there as well to have the most help available.
[20:33] <Dr_Willis1> you have to use a windows machine.. to get your Linux Cert. :)
[20:33] <buster1> Been having no fun at all installing 11.10. They should fix the "nomodeset" thing, it's not nice to give your new users a blank screen.
[20:33] <marcuy> Bodsda, I mean, it restarts but when I load the file I get the same behaviour
[20:33] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis1: I wouldn't have thought they would be mentioned here... no way related at all :)
[20:33] <Bodsda> marcuy: purge firefox cache
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: any other suggestions? that didn't seem to work.
[20:34] <urlin2u> buster1, that makes no sense.
[20:34] <pfifo> buster1, complain in #kernel
[20:34] <buster1> urlin2u: it makes perfect sense.
[20:34] <marcuy> Bodsda, same..
[20:34] <theadmin> Dj_FlyBy: Not much but boot into a recovery shell and get rid of your prop drivers
[20:34] <urlin2u> buster1, not if you understand drivers and ubuntu's place in the scenario.
[20:34] <wind> ghh, why there's neither "use as wallpaper" in nautilus, nor does drag & dropping the picture anywhere in appearance window work (opened with "change desktop background")
[20:35] <Rotham> hey
[20:35] <Rotham> how can I tell if a specific cron job is running?
[20:35] <Bodsda> marcuy: hmm, I assume you have php installed and the apache_mod_php stuff?
[20:36] <m477_> I run WordWeb ( dictionary ) on Wine and I wonder if it is possible to use hot-keys when I am beyond Wine window
[20:36] <Bodsda> Rotham: scheduled to run or actually running, now?
[20:36] <Dj_FlyBy> theadmin: well I guess that sucks.. no 3d/opengl for me I suppose
[20:36] <urlin2u> wind, you just click on the + in the change desktop background right click on the dektop and choose what you want.
[20:36] <buster1> urlin2u: I have to understand drivers and kernels in order to install ubuntu?
[20:37] <Rotham> Bodsda:  actually running.. Ive added things to /etc/crontab, but none of it seems to run
[20:37] <dios_mio> 11.10 is too slow for me... can i turn unity off? will it get faster?
[20:37] <Bodsda> Rotham: care to pastebin your crontab?
[20:37] <wind> urlin2u: yep, that's how it seems to work :) though it's be nice to also support drag & drop and have a choice in nautilus
[20:37] <Bodsda> buster1: I doubt it, otherwise only about 100 people would be able to run it
[20:38] <urlin2u> buster1, no you have to understand the limitations of the driver providers for linux in general.
[20:38] <wunnle> hello
[20:38] <wunnle> anyone using boxee on ubuntu (11.10)?
[20:39] <lduros> hello, is there a way to install ubuntu with acpi off? when I put the cd in and boots it freezes because of acpi
[20:39] <urlin2u> dios_mio, what are you computers specs, there are many desktops to choose from.
[20:39] <urlin2u> your
[20:39] <Bodsda> lduros: on the screen where you pick the way to boot (e.g: boot into live cd, install etc etc.) one of the options from an F# key will allow you to add boot parameters
[20:40] <buster1> urlin2u: you're right, of course
[20:40] <dios_mio> urlin2u, it is a 2007 model laptop, not awfully slow.. is there a way to go back to original gnome interface without unity?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis1> !classic
[20:40] <robin0800> lduros: yes if you use the alternate cd and hit f6
[20:40] <FrozenFire> After installing the packages from the xorg-edgers ppa, it seems the newest driver for my Synaptic touchpad enables support for a bunch of stuff that I can't find the configuration for. I need to, specifically, be able to configure the scroll zone.
[20:41] <FrozenFire> Is there a utility I can install for that? I'm running Xubuntu.
[20:41] <lduros> robin0800: ok thanks
[20:42] <Dr_Willis1> FrozenFire:  there may be ppas with newer versions of synaptic/drivers/tools.
[20:42] <urlin2u> dios_mio, you have oneric installed?
[20:42] <Rotham> Bodsda:  http://pastebin.com/eEMaurrL
[20:43] <urlin2u> dios_mio, you can install the classic desktop, a bit of a hybrid of gnome 2  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[20:43] <marcuy> Bodsda, it seems that ubuntu disable php in user directory as a security measure by default
[20:43] <Dr_Willis1> i just have to reccomend Lubuntu/LXDE if you want an old skool classic desktop. :)
[20:43] <Dr_Willis1> brb
[20:43] <pfifo> whats the eta on the 6502 port of ubuntu
[20:44] <zkxs> Recently, a second volume control has begun appearing in my Notification Area.  How do I get rid of it?  http://i.imgur.com/edIB9.png
[20:45] <Bodsda> marcuy: what do you mean?
[20:45] <Bodsda> Rotham: any reason your trying to run all those things as root?
[20:45] <dios_mio> urlin2u, thanks bro
[20:46] <urlin2u> dios_mio, no problem
[20:46] <m477_> I run WordWeb ( dictionary ) on Wine and I wonder if it is possible to use hot-keys when I am beyond Wine window
[20:47] <Rotham> Bodsda:  not really.. this was my first time trying to run something with cron, and I just picked root for the first test use.. I will switch to another user once I figure this out
[20:47] <Myrtti> well the last entry lacks the username
[20:48] <Bodsda> Rotham: its probably not working because you would have to provide the root password - try just removing the uername section (it will then run under your account)
[20:48] <_cb> When upgrading from ubuntu 9 to 11, among other things, I backed my evolution. Upgraded and.. no evolution. 11 has Thunderbird. Any way to import my evolution settings and account into thunderbird from the evolution backup?
[20:49] <compaq> hi
[20:50] <wind> _cb: you could always install evolution to 11? there seems to be a package at least in 11.10
[20:50] <Sidewinder1> !eol | _cb
[20:50] <Bodsda> _cb: I can't find much info unfortunately, apart from maybe thise: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27410/migrating-from-evolution-to-thunderbird
[20:50] <Sidewinder1> _cb, You were aware of that, I trust?
[20:50] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: ... How was that relevant?
[20:51] <_cb> Sidewinder1 no. It was a surprise to see evolution in 11.
[20:51] <_cb> thunderbird that is
[20:51] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, "ubuntu 9 to 11"?
[20:52] <wind> I can't believe there's still no option to "always show menu" and the app name is still weirdly cut and faded :) with so many people requesting it on the net
[20:52] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: Telling him that an ubuntu version is end-of-life has nothing to do with inability to import volution backups into thunderbird???
[20:52] <Sidewinder1> T-Bird, my mistake, humblest apologies..
[20:52] <Mr_EE1> hello guys
[20:52] <wind> but it's an annoyance that could be lived with.. wonder what C file could be edited which handles hiding the bar :)
[20:52] <Bodsda> wind: filed a bug yet?
[20:53] <wind> Bodsda: it's not a bug, it's a design feature.. or rather a lack of obivious feature in settings
[20:53] <Mr_EE1> in linux is there a software like automix to dj with?
[20:53] <Bodsda> wind: still worthy of a bug report/feature request
[20:53] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, check out mixxx
[20:54] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: thanks but i have already checked it, it does not beat mix songs
[20:54] <SilverFox> is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs search failing for others, or is it just me?
[20:55] <SilverFox> hmm... now it works.
[20:55] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, last time I used it you could beat mix, i doubt that was changed
[20:55] <Bodsda> SilverFox:  errors for me
[20:56] <SilverFox> Bodsda: should we file a bug regarding the bug tracker's search?  :)
[20:56] <Bodsda> SilverFox: no one would find it
[20:56] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: how were you beat mixing the songs?
[20:56] <SilverFox> lol
[20:57] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, yes, i just installed it, everything is the same
[20:57] <Bodsda> SilverFox: love the error id starting with 00ps though
[20:57] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, When someone starts their question with "When upgrading from ubuntu 9 to 11..." and the "9", to which they're referring is eol, that path can be somewhat problematic; hence my reference to the factoid. If I was outta' line I apologize. :-)
[20:57] <Mr_EE1> pfifo:  or which button were you pressing for beat mix
[20:57] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: when now?
[20:57] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, there is a sync button
[20:57] <wind> Bodsda: there is already at least one bug reported for it
[20:57] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: yep i can see that 1
[20:58] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: ah, ok sorry - thought you were blaming the out of date version for removing evolution - my bad
[20:58] <Bodsda> wind: got a link, I'll look into it
[20:58] <wind> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/772268   (think I'll create an account if it's then possible to somehow "bump" the bug:)
[20:58] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, you just need to play around with it for a bit
[20:59] <Bodsda> wind: no bumping, but you can add yourself as an effected user
[20:59] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, No problem, what-so ever, 'tis all good; that's why we're here.. :D
[20:59] <m477_> do you know if there is channel for wine? cuz #wine doesnt work
[20:59] <Bodsda> m477_: #winehq
[21:00] <m477_> Bodsda: ty
[21:00] <Mr_EE1> pfifo:  i am busy doing that it does not beat mix them
[21:01] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, unfortunatly i dont have any music handy or i would tell you exactly what todo
[21:01] <wind> Bodsda: thanks & done :)
[21:02] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: let me send you two songs
[21:02] <pfifo> ok
[21:02] <_cb> any downsides to using evolution in 11? am thinking I will un-install thunderbird and install evolution
[21:02] <Bodsda> _cb: none at all
[21:03] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, Totally as an aside, I never cared for Evolution; tossed it when I installed Gutsy; went strait to T-bird, guess I shoulda' kept me mouth shut.. :-)
[21:03] <SilverFox> So, I've installed Oneiric on my MBP 5,3 and I've noticed a couple of 'issues'.  Is it good/beneficial for me to file bugs for these (external monitor not working, magicmouse not working) ?
[21:03] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: I don't use mail clients, I telnet to the server - lol :) - I dislike evolution as well, thunderbird has a much nicer feel imho
[21:04] <Bodsda> SilverFox: if your monitor and your mouse don't work... how are you gonna file these bugs?
[21:05] <SilverFox> I don't see oneiric specific bugs on these issues on launchpad, but on the macbook wiki it says the external display worked fine in Lucid according to the mactel wiki.
[21:05] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: i am busy trying to look for songs which meets the size ok. now 1 song is transferring to you
[21:05] <SilverFox> Bodsda: my main monitor and touchpad work fine (its a laptop)
[21:05] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, Telnet! You must be older than I.. I remember when kermit was the preferred protocol.
[21:05] <marcela> hola
[21:05] <Bodsda> SilverFox: :) I would have thought they would iron these out, but #ubuntu+1 might be able to advise further
[21:05] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: got them?
[21:05] <wind> SilverFox: if you have ati or nvidia graphics, it could be either using or not using the proprietary drivers makes difference in that external display thing
[21:05] <kermit> Sidewinder1: me too :(
[21:06] <urlin2u> SilverFox, if you file a bug report you will find out f it is a actual bug generally. Have you looked on the web for others having the same problem, or itemized the problems here for help.
[21:06] <wind> SilverFox: I noticed 11.10 has proprietary drivers on by default while older ubuntu distros did not
[21:06] <Bodsda> Sidewinder1: I doubt it, I get disciplineries at work for making my manager feel old when I tell him my first phone had more processing power than his first computer
[21:06] <Sidewinder1> kermit, Big surprise, there! ;-)
[21:06] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, :D
[21:07] <SilverFox> wind: nvidia, but I've tried switching through the available 'additional drivers'
[21:07] <SilverFox> urlin2u: I have looked, but haven't found anything suggesting that others have trouble with this, nor is there any similar bugs on launchpad.
[21:07] <_cb> If there was a way to import the evolution tar files into tbird I would have kept T-bird but if I have to install evolution to migrate to t-bird then I may as well stay in ev untll my next upgrade
[21:07] <wind> SilverFox: btw, it might be useful to try nvidia-settings, and try enable the external monitor with that
[21:08] <Sidewinder1> Bodsda, My first wireless was a "bag-phone." Ot, I know,,..
[21:08] <SilverFox> #ubuntu+1 says penguin support, and oneiric support is in #ubuntu in their topic.
[21:08] <wind> SilverFox: since you're using the proprietary (additional) driver
[21:08] <SilverFox> wind: haven't tried that.  I'll take a look.
[21:08] <wind> SilverFox: there might still be a bug but that might work around it
[21:08] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, the dcc's dont seem to be working
[21:08] <Bodsda> _cb: there is info on importing from evolution to thunderbid - see if this helps (ignore the fact that it was written for intrepid): http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-migrate-from-evolution-to-thunderbird-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2008/12/04
[21:08] <Sidewinder1> Don't wanna' get yelled at..
[21:08] <SilverFox> wind: this MBP has TWO graphics cards, and doesn't have a BIOS, so only one of them shows up in lspci.  I wonder if this is an EFI issue.
[21:09] <_cb> Bodsda yes but I have to install evolution, import the tar files into evolution and then migrate to t-bird.
[21:09] <Bodsda> SilverFox: EFI protects the boot loader from loading unsigned code, if you get to the OS, I wouldnt think its an EFI issue
[21:09] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: did you get another one?
[21:10] <SilverFox> wind, I'm not at the office, so i can't check out the display atm, but in the nvidia control panel, it seems to 'remember' my external monitor.  This looks promising.
[21:10] <Bodsda> _cb: yeah, 5 minute job to do the install & import
[21:10] <_cb> This unity UI is going to take some getting used too.
[21:10] <SilverFox> Bodsda: EFI also tells the hardware what to 'power on', does it not?
[21:10] <turbokumbi> does anyone know how to solve this: http://pastebin.com/vtJBhGcm ?
[21:10] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, no it didnt transfer
[21:11] <wind> SilverFox: I have no idea how to switch between the display "cards" in linux, but nvidia-settings often helps in multi display setups when using the nvidia drivers :)
[21:11] <NeoCicak> hi ...i'm having a problem with sudo su - command....  i need to be able to sudo su - to a specific account, then execute a few command as that account. How can I do it in one command?
[21:11] <SilverFox> Regarding the 'magicmouse', its  bluetooth mouse, and doesn't get detected by default, but after loading bluez tools, I see it on the command line, but still cannot connect to it.
[21:11] <Bodsda> SilverFox: can't find any sources online to indicate UEFI disabling PCI devices
[21:11] <kla> sudo su ? woow
[21:11] <SilverFox> wind/Bodsa: interesting thread about trying to get EFI to switch between cards: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1076879.html
[21:12] <wind> SilverFox: I think both chips (the slow and the fast one) should work with both monitors.. it's only either a performance or a battery life issue if it's locked to always one
[21:12] <SilverFox> wind: i think you're right.
[21:12] <unitheory> turbokumbi, where did you get the commands you entered?
[21:13] <roo7> my raid0 (2 disks) system just died , saying "no operation system" when i boot on the 3rd disk with ubuntu on ... i can still acess the data.. what to do?
[21:13] <turbokumbi> unitheory: from the readme file
[21:13] <Bodsda> roo7: do you get the bootloader from the raid disks?
[21:14] <turbokumbi> unitheory: well, the -fpermissive magic was not there, but i gave it a try
[21:14] <unitheory> turbokumbi, that's what i was wondering about
[21:14] <unitheory> turbokumbi, same error without it?
[21:14] <xuser1> can you help me to get nvidia driver work on gnome3 fallback mode?
[21:14] <turbokumbi> unitheory: yep.
[21:15] <roo7> Bodsda, i belive it was a pure windows7 setting
[21:15] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: have you looked at the code to see if there is an invalid conversion?
[21:15] <dr_willis> xuser1:  it would seem odd they work on other desktops but not fallback mode.
[21:16] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: i am sendind two now ok
[21:16] <turbokumbi> Bodsda: i looked around, but since i don't really understand c++ conversions, idk if that's the real problem
[21:16] <xuser1> so it does not work in fallback mode?
[21:16] <dr_willis> xuser1:  X uses the drivers.. the desktop shouldent matter...
[21:16] <Bodsda> roo7: remove your ubuntu drive, boot off a win7 cd and run the fixboot commands: http://windows7themes.net/how-to-fix-mbr-in-windows-7.html
[21:16] <dr_willis> xuser1:  state whats going on exactly.
[21:16] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: two are done now one more
[21:16] <xuser1> no it work in default g3 mode
[21:16] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: fair enough. its probably not anyway
[21:16] <xuser1> it doesnt work in fallback mode
[21:17] <dr_willis> !dosentwork
[21:17] <xuser1> any ideas?
[21:17] <dr_willis> xuser1:  clarify whats not working....
[21:17] <roo7> kk
[21:17] <NeoCicak> hi ...i'm having a problem with sudo su - command....  i need to be able to sudo su - to a specific account, then execute a few command as that account. How can I do it in one command?
[21:18] <xuser1> the driver not work
[21:18] <dr_willis> Gnome-shell runs on top of gnome on top of X.. gnome fallback is a differnt set of apps running on top of gnome on top of X.
[21:18] <dr_willis> xuser1:  and what does it do exactly?  expoldes? makes smoke?  gives some error message?
[21:18] <Bodsda> NeoCicak: I didn't think you could do a non-interactive su on an account that had a password
[21:18] <turbokumbi> unitheory, Bodsda : any idea?
[21:18] <xuser1> when minimize windows effects, desktop notifications  .
[21:19] <xuser1> compiz zooming efects...
[21:19] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: van you link me to the source download
[21:19] <xuser1> etc
[21:19] <Bodsda> can*
[21:19] <SipuliSopuli> hi
[21:19] <NeoCicak> Bodsda: i can do sudo su - to that account without being prompted for password
[21:19] <dr_willis> xuser1:  as far as i know the classic mode does not have effects..
[21:19] <turbokumbi> Bodsda : http://code.google.com/p/kopete-xfire/downloads/list
[21:19] <djskidd> Help
[21:19] <djskidd> I want to install Windows 98 to a V<
[21:19] <wind> NeoCicak: man su, there's -c parameter
[21:20] <pietr101> Hello, how to limit upload speed for specified user with htaccess. I googled, but did not found a solution. Thanks in advance
[21:20] <xuser1> but the notifications area is not transparent
[21:20] <xuser1> and more issues
[21:20] <djskidd> *VM in VirtualBox. How do I get VirtualBox to read from my host CD drive and boot from it?
[21:20] <Bodsda> NeoCicak: only because you have entered your sudo password in the last 5 minutes, try   sudo -k; sudo su - user
[21:20] <NeoCicak> wind: sure.. i know about the -c param... but how can i hook it with sudo? the -c might be 'captured' by the sudo command
[21:21] <OerHeks> djskidd, add the cd to your mediamanager, in the vbox menu
[21:21] <wind> NeoCicak: add -c as last parameter, and after that the command, i.e. "su <user> -c ls" to see files :)
[21:21] <helghareeb> djskidd: U need to mark CD Rom from Devices to be used with VM
[21:21] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: installing depens now, will try to compile
[21:21] <lighta> hey here, does someone using netbeans here ? having some trouble lauching it sometime, it's like it's closing with no reason
[21:21] <SipuliSopuli> i have problem woth anysee e30 c plus, scan says that no frontend found so what to do? I have installed everything with this manual http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obtain,_Build_and_Install_V4L-DVB_Device_Drivers
[21:21] <SipuliSopuli> *with
[21:22] <NeoCicak> wind: mmmm... there's a sudo before the su
[21:22] <Poz> hi
[21:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[21:22] <Poz> I am new here
[21:22] <wind> NeoCicak: if you run "su" as root then it doesn't ask for user's password, but know that it works non-interactively only if it's in a script that truly is ran by root for example in some init script.. if you run it as normal user with sudo then sudo will prompt for a password
[21:23] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, first you press sync and then left/right click on the temp buttons to mix them
[21:23] <Poz> do people talk here?
[21:23] <Bodsda> Poz: nope
[21:23] <testswap> Hello
[21:24] <Poz> I have some simple problems with ubuntu
[21:24] <salty> !#ubuntu
[21:24] <Poz> hi test
[21:24] <xuser1> i enabled some effects using compiz setting manager but video driver is still not working
[21:24] <HQRaja> Does any of you know of a simplenote client for Linux?
[21:24] <xuser1> any ideas?
[21:24] <Poz> mostly just how to change options
[21:24] <Mattheas> Does anyone know how to load specific drivers for an ethernet port?
[21:24] <HQRaja> !simplenote
[21:24] <xangua> HQRaja: nevernote
[21:24] <testswap> I have Ubuntu minimal installation, for some reason, in *man, I'm unable to scroll down with the arror key when I ssh in? I'm getting a terminal bell?
[21:24] <HQRaja> !#simplenote
[21:24] <Barbariandude> xuser1, what model??
[21:24] <HQRaja> xangua: Thanks, lemme check it out
[21:24] <NeoCicak> wind: hmmmm ok....but how can i sudo su - <account>   without being prompted for password?
[21:25] <xuser1> nvidia gf6100nf405
[21:25] <theadmin> testswap: Try with j for down and k for up
[21:25] <testswap> theadmin: I have tried that, same result
[21:25] <xangua> HQRaja: i believe it changed it's name, but search for nevernote and you will find it
[21:25] <theadmin> testswap: Huh, weird
[21:25] <xuser1> any ideas?
[21:25] <HQRaja> xangua: I found it under the name of nevernote...so the name still seems to be the same
[21:25] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: unfortunately I can't compile it because I don't have kde4, and theres no way im installing that - sorry
[21:26] <HQRaja> xangua: Are you certain it supports simplenote synchronization?
[21:26] <Poz> how do i remove the battery thingy from the top right of my computer (near the time)
[21:26] <testswap> theadmin: In *vim*, it work normally
[21:26] <casaburip> ciao
[21:26] <casaburip> !list
[21:26] <turbokumbi> Bodsda: i think i can understand. :D
[21:26] <testswap> For some reason with *man*, it won't let scroll down :/
[21:26] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: even kopete to ages to install cause of all the kdelibs
[21:26] <Bodsda> testswap: hit the space bar
[21:26] <xangua> HQRaja: oo i thought you said Evernote, no idea then sorry
[21:26] <testswap> My only choice is to use *s* or *d* to skip lines
[21:26] <HQRaja> xangua:  OK on the download page (which directed me to its sourceforge page), the name does seem to be changed to NixNote so you were right on that.
[21:27] <HQRaja> Nah not Evernote...simplenote
[21:27] <BarkingFish> testswap: sure you not got your scroll lock on? :)
[21:27] <wind> NeoCicak: I don't know about that, I think it's not possible because of security, you have to use some other means
[21:27] <Poz> how do i remove the battery thingy from the top right of my computer (near the time)
[21:27] <NeoCicak> wind: coz i can do that somehow...
[21:27] <Barbariandude> xuser1, no idea, sorry
[21:27] <testswap> Bodsda: The helps with scrolling down:) not scrolling up
[21:27] <Poz> HOW?!
[21:27] <turbokumbi> Bodsda: the kubuntu channel is dead silent, that's why i came here
[21:27] <Poz> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME
[21:28] <testswap> BarkingFish: My laptop keyboard doesn't have Scroll Lock :/
[21:28] <pfifo> !help | Poz
[21:28] <Poz> I want to remove the little icon thingys from the top right of my computer
[21:28] <testswap> It's a very strange behavior
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> Poz  please don't shout
[21:28] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: ok yeah i got it now bro thanks hey
[21:28] <Poz> i am sorry :(
[21:28] <Poz> i am sleepy and cranky...
[21:29] <salty> Poz, have you right clicked on them removed them
[21:29] <BarkingFish> testswap: sorry, didn't realise you were on a laptop
[21:29] <turbokumbi> Bodsda: could you though explain me why this -fpermissive thing does not work? in my understanding it should make the compiler ignore that 'bad' conversion..
[21:29] <Poz> there is no remove button
[21:29] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, im having a graphical error with mixxx right now, but i remember there was a way to cue and autoplay songs that made it automaticly sync and beatmatch
[21:29] <testswap> BarkingFish: That's fine :/
[21:29] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, there are some patches available too on the website for more features
[21:29] <Poz> like there is a e-mail icon, a bluetooth icon, a battery icon... I want them gone
[21:29] <salty> just wondering i use openbox sorry
[21:30] <Bodsda> testswap: page up?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Poz  it's probably the 'notification area' or so
[21:30] <Bodsda> turbokumbi: it will ignore warnings, but wont ignore compile time errors - afaik
[21:30] <testswap> I've worked with RPM based distros and I"m trying to learn Ubuntu commands... *man* not working properly is making the job harder :(
[21:30] <Poz> i see
[21:30] <testswap> Bodsda: Nope, that doesn't work either :/
[21:30] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: how to get them my brother
[21:31] <pietr101> Hello, how to limit upload speed for specified user with htaccess. I googled, but did not found a solution. Thanks in advance
[21:31] <Poz> so how to edit this 'notification area'?
[21:31] <Dr-Willis> :!apt
[21:31] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, you have to compile from source... this was a year or two ago so debain may have some newer stuff
[21:31] <Dr-Willis> !apt
[21:31] <Poz> this is all so new to me
[21:32] <Poz> i wish i knew what I was doing like you guys
[21:32] <Dr-Willis> Poz:  the webupd8 blog site has some tweaking guides.. i wouldent worry about things like notification icons and so forth.
[21:32] <Mr_EE1> pfifo:  so what should i do
[21:32] <Poz> but they bother me. i have a red empty battery thing always reminding me that my battery does not work
[21:33] <Barbariandude> Poz, take your battery out then
[21:33] <Poz> it does not solve the problem
[21:33] <salty> Poz right click on battery icon and see if there is a 'properties' selection
[21:33] <Dr-Willis> learn the basics of the os first. then worry about other stuff
[21:33] <Barbariandude> Poz, the indicator is there even without the battery?
[21:34] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, goto http://www.mixxx.org/ and get the latest version and read all about its features
[21:34] <Poz> yes
[21:34] <Poz> i did, no open to make it not show up
[21:34] <wind> wonder what'd be best way to turn vmware disk images into qemu disk images :) if qemu can take raw images, could just 'dd' those in vmware to usb disk and then use them in qemu
[21:34] <pfifo> !info mixxx
[21:34] <Poz> i am using ubuntu 11.4
[21:34] <Dr-Willis> the tweak guides and other guides posted at the webupd8 and omgubuntu and askubuntu.com sites mention all sorts of tips on removeing stuff, or adding stuff of other  tweaks.,
[21:34] <Poz> i mean 11.1
[21:34] <Mattheas> Does anyone know how to load specific drivers for an ethernet port?
[21:34] <salty> click that and see if there is an option to keep it from showing up
[21:35] <Dr-Willis> Mattheas:  load the module needed by the chipset is all one normally does.
[21:35] <salty> ok
[21:35] <Poz> there is no option
[21:35] <Mr_EE1> pfifo: ok thanks again :) hey
[21:35] <Dr-Willis> brb
[21:35] <Mattheas> Dr-Willis: so in /etc/modules I put r8168 however it's continuing to load the wrong driver.
[21:38] <Crash_O-D> what can i use to decompile swf and recompile?
[21:38] <_cb> removed thundebird, re-installed evolution. How do I get the mail folder on the top right corner to start evolution?
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> Poz  http://pricklytech.wordpress.com/2011/04/30/ubuntu-11-4-natty-customizing-the-notification-area-in-unity/
[21:38] <dagerik> http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/s.png this is gnome, how can i fix graphics error?
[21:38] <dagerik> http://folk.ntnu.no/dageriv/s.png this is gnome, how can i fix graphics error?
[21:38] <Poz> im looking
[21:38] <dr_willis> Hmm... Did an install of 11.10 lubuntu.. and it seems it auto setup the PAE kernel for me. since i have 8gb of ram on this box Im guessing...
[21:38] <dr_willis> never noticed it doing that befor.
[21:39] <Lasers> Wow. That's smart. :)
[21:39] <dr_willis> Mattheas:  blacklist any module you dont want to auto load.
[21:39] <xangua> install graphic drivers dagerik ¿
[21:39] <dr_willis> Lasers:  except this is on a flash drive.. so i dont really want the pae kernel for when i plug this thing into my netbook. :) but we will see if it works there also.
[21:39] <Mattheas> can I blacklist per device? Because I need that module for the onboard NIC
[21:39] <dr_willis> Mattheas:  no idea there.
[21:39] <Mattheas> k
[21:40] <Lasers> dr_willis: Ah. Unforeseen consequences.
[21:40] <dr_willis> Lasers:  ive never noticed it doing the pae trick. :) but i normally use 64bit anyway
[21:41] <salty> Poz try here http://askubuntu.com/questions/65751/how-do-i-remove-the-battery-icon-from-top-bar
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> Poz  Go to Power Management Preferences and click the tab labelled General then check the box Always Display Battery Icon in the Notification Area
[21:41] <unitheory> turbokumbi, based on preliminary research: seems like a problem with the source code
[21:41] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com is getting a good collection of tips gathered
[21:41] <salty> Poz or just listen to MonkeyDust he's correct
[21:41] <turbokumbi> unitheory : and is it possible to fix the code itself?
[21:42] <Poz> ok
[21:42] <unitheory> turbokumbi, possible? yes
[21:42] <salty> they're getting better dr_willis
[21:42] <turbokumbi> unitheory : but i guess you don't know the solution :P
[21:42] <unitheory> turbokumbi, no, sorry
[21:42] <Poz> how to find power managment?
[21:43] <_cb> how can I edit the applications started by the mail folder icon on the upper right?
[21:43] <Poz> thank you for your help so far?
[21:43] <Poz> i mean with out a question mark though
[21:43] <salty> left side of the top bar , last option to the right Poz
[21:43] <Poz> thanks..
[21:43] <turbokumbi> unitheory: well, thanks anyway
[21:44] <dagerik> i am having trouble fully utilizing my graphics card. the UI lags, on my brand new laptop. i am using the propriatary driver. this is way beyond my skills. wat do?
[21:44] <Barbariandude> dagerik, what laptop?
[21:45] <Poz> salty, it does not exist
[21:45] <dagerik> Barbariandude: acer aspire 5943G
[21:45] <HQRaja> :( Why isn't there a single simplenote client available for Linux?
[21:45] <HQRaja> :`(
[21:45] <Poz> in the system settings i have a option for 'Power'
[21:46] <dagerik> Barbariandude: it has ati mobility radeon, with intel i7 cpu
[21:46] <abiss27> hey guys I did a minimal ubuntu install which I'm to, and I did not want to use gnome-core because of epiphany and empathy, so I'm just using gdm so far I'm happy with, but in my home folder the icons show as files and not folders I need help with this
[21:46] <Barbariandude> dagerik, does it have optimus?
[21:46] <Poz> but it does not have tabs. Only three options, suspend when inactive for: "Dont suspend", When the lid is closed: "Suspend" When the power is critically low: " "
[21:46] <Kottizen> evening everyone - I got a Nvidia card with a HDMI port and it's not really working... I want the audio to be routed through that port to my external speakers, but everything just goes quiet when I try... here's what I've tried so far - any help is highly appreciated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11528405
[21:46] <salty> Poz what's on the top bar on the left side?
[21:47] <dagerik> Barbariandude: what is optimus? nothing about optimus in specifications on the note attached to laptop
[21:47] <Barbariandude> dagerik, found it, the answer is yes. Lemme craft you a little something
[21:47] <nac-godfather> I have a file called securitty in /etc/, is that usual, or should it be spelled correctly (security)?
[21:47] <OerHeks> HQRaja, maybe this page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Notation i like lilypond
[21:48] <nac-godfather> actually it's spelled securetty
[21:48] <pfifo> Mr_EE1, you still around?
[21:48] <Poz> it says "XChat IRC"
[21:48] <salty> MonkeyDust, is gonna have to help you here... I don't have the same setup
[21:49] <Poz> Thanks for your attempts anyways!
[21:49] <salty> np
[21:51] <HQRaja> OerHeks: Lemme check it out, thanks
[21:52] <HQRaja> OerHeks: Oh it's about music...simplenote isn't a musical note editor, but rather a text note app =) Thanks for trying to help though...its the thought that counts.
[21:52] <aum> hi - upgraded to evolution 3.03, now evolution thinks it's always offline (and has greyed out the 'work online' menu option - what gives?
[21:52] <salty> abiss27, what window manager are you using?
[21:52] <abiss27> it's gdm
[21:53] <salty> i thought gdm was the login manager
[21:54] <Guest91682> I am having some issues with rc.local
[21:54] <Guest91682> specifically starting logkeys
[21:54] <Guest91682> but I am new to Ubuntu
[21:55] <Guest91682> so any help is greatly appreciated
[21:55] <MahaVishnu> Guest91682, what is log keys? did you chmod +x /etc/rc.local? pastebin your /etc/rc.local @ pastie.org
[21:55] <lumio> hello everybody... does anyone know if I can specify more than one mount-point? I want to have /home and /var on one seperate partition
[21:56] <mkanyicy> hi
[21:56] <dr_willis> lumio:  just make a soft link if you want to.
[21:56] <Poz> hi
[21:56] <jordanm> lumio: yes, a disk can be mounted to multiple locations, but using the same for /home and /var doesn't make much sense
[21:57] <lumio> joranm ... why not?
[21:57] <Nins_a> hi all
[21:57] <dr_willis> you could have a /media/stuff   and link /home to /meida/stuff/home   and link /var/ to /media/stuff/var
[21:57] <Nins_a> what's this channel ?
[21:57] <Poz> hi nins
[21:57] <Poz> i dunno
[21:57] <Poz> im new here
[21:57] <mkanyicy> when I boot, ubuntu says it is waiting for network and takes a very long time. this happens everytime i boot. how can i fix this?
[21:57] <dr_willis> mkanyicy:  how are you networked?
[21:58] <jordanm> lumio: because it would be the same as just putting your home directories in /var
[21:58] <salty> Nins_a, this is #ubuntu channel
[21:58] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, what do you mean
[21:58] <DJones> Nins_a: This is a support channel for the Ubuntu operating system to try and answer techinal queries & help solve problems with installations
[21:58] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, i sometimes use ethernet sometimes i use 3G modem
[21:59] <lumio> joranm ... true but can I do so, while installing ubuntu normally?
[21:59] <Poz> when i had 11.04, my computer would not boot properly. It would go to this screen where it said login:... after a few mins it would continue to boot
[21:59] <Poz> now with 11.1, it takes me to this purple screen for about 50 - 80 seconds
[22:00] <Poz> its like the one that says ubuntu when it shuts down (with the dots)... but instead its just a blank purple screen
[22:00] <jordanm> lumio: the ubuntu installer may not allow it, not sure. it would probably require manual configuration
[22:00] <dr_willis> hmm. My whole system boots in like 30 sec. :)
[22:00] <MahaVishnu> Poz, post your /etc/default/grub to pastebin so people can see it.
[22:00] <Poz> ok
[22:00] <Poz> that sounds exciting, i hope i can figure out how to do that
[22:00] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, im expecting that as well but it takes around 5 minutes or more
[22:00] <salty> lol
[22:00] <lumio> joranm: and wouldn't it be easier to just define two mount points?
[22:01] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | Poz
[22:01] <jordanm> lumio: just use a bind mount, that's probably the easiest route
[22:01] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, and there is a special message displayed that it will take up to 60 seconds while waiting for network to be configured
[22:01] <jordanm> lumio: mount -o bind /var /home (and the equiv in /etc/fstab)
[22:02] <Poz> ill check that out ubottu, but first i have to copy the grub thing into the pastebin
[22:02] <MahaVishnu> Poz, ubottu is not a person its a robot ;-)
[22:02] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, but it takes well beyond that, and I dont even know why ubuntu has to worry about configuring my network all the time all of a sudden
[22:02] <mkanyicy> :(
[22:03] <zkxs> Recently, a second volume control has begun appearing in my Notification Area.  How do I get rid of it?  http://i.imgur.com/edIB9.png
[22:03] <MahaVishnu> mkanyicy, are you using network manager ?
[22:03] <mkanyicy> MahaVishnu, yes
[22:03] <mkanyicy> MahaVishnu, you mean that icon in the notification tray?
[22:03] <MahaVishnu> mkanyicy, switching to using /etc/network/interfaces solved alot of issues for me.  you could put your info in there and then just do a sudo ifup eth0 or add it to /etc/rc.local
[22:03] <dr_willis> mkanyicy:  on my unnetworked machnes. i dont see any issues. or slowdowns at all.
[22:04] <Poz> but how did it know that stuff?
[22:04] <MahaVishnu> mkanyicy, I believe network-manager uses nm-applet for a gui. yes.
[22:04] <Guest71897> !nvidia
[22:05] <Poz> MahaVishnu, I pasted it
[22:05] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, MahaVishnu, this issue shows up even if I dont have any network connection in place
[22:05] <tyler> hi
[22:06] <MahaVishnu> Poz, whats the weblink so that I might see it ;-)
[22:07] <Poz> lol oooh... http://paste.ubuntu.com/766345/
[22:08] <preludelinux_tv> i finaly got hdmi audio working with my nvidia gtx 460
[22:08] <mkanyicy> dr_willis, MahaVishnu, thanks for your suggestions, I will fiddle around that /etc/network/interfaces file and google for this issue
[22:09] <MahaVishnu> Poz, and you get a blank purple screen on boot? of ubuntu 11.10 ?
[22:09] <Poz> yes
[22:09] <Poz> for like 50 - 80 seconds
[22:09] <Poz> and it is consistent
[22:10] <super789> what is initcl event failed?
[22:10] <super789> when starting up ubuntu?
[22:10] <MahaVishnu> Poz, change the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[22:10] <ftn> Hey there. On the start menu, I have a bunch of entries for games I installed a while a go. Is there a way to re-generate the menu?, please
[22:10] <pfifo> super789, can you give a bit more detail
[22:11] <Poz> ok i did it
[22:11] <tightwork> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opennebula/+bug/902597
[22:12] <super789> pfifo while loading up ubuntu in recoverymode>regular startup, i receive a post with severel services, and the inictl event says failed
[22:12] <Poz> i am having a problem saving. give me a sec
[22:12] <preludelinux_tv> at least its nice to have sound again
[22:12] <pfifo> super789, is it causing a problem for you?
[22:13] <MahaVishnu> Poz, did you open the file with gksudo ? or sudo
[22:13] <super789> pfifo i dont know, but it apears to be working
[22:13] <MahaVishnu> Poz, gksudo mousepad /etc/default/grub
[22:13] <nsaquatics> Has anybody here successfully installed drivers for the USB over IP MCS8140?
[22:13] <Poz> gedit
[22:13] <theadmin> ftn: What exactly do you mean by "regenerating" it? Entries dissapear and appear as soon as programs are deleted or installed.
[22:13] <MahaVishnu> Poz, or gedit if thats what you use
[22:13] <super789> during the instalations of ubuntu i havent defined the root password.. just a user and his password
[22:13] <Poz> i just double clicked on it. it says that root only has read only access
[22:14] <MahaVishnu> Poz, do you know how to open a terminal?
[22:14] <Poz> yea
[22:14] <Poz> yeah*
[22:14] <pfifo> super789, you can ignore it, initctl is a relic from the old sysvinit
[22:14] <nac-godfather> Anyone here familiar with using ettercap?
[22:14] <MahaVishnu> Poz, open one and do gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:14] <Poz> ok
[22:15] <super789> thanks pfifo
[22:15] <ftn> theadmin the thing is that in the menu, there are some entries for programs that were installed some time in the past but are no longer installed. So I was wondering how to update the menu to the current state
[22:16] <Poz> k, it worked
[22:16] <MahaVishnu> Poz, sudo update-grub or update-grub2 if that doesn't work
[22:16] <MahaVishnu> from a terminal
[22:16] <pfifo> super789, the root account is disabled in ubuntu
[22:16] <Poz> it saved this time
[22:17] <xangua> pfifo: super789 more acurate, there is no root password set
[22:17] <super789> ok, but i will need it when i try to install a usb wifi dongle?
[22:18] <pfifo> super789, no, use sudo instead
[22:18] <pfifo> !sudo | super789
[22:18] <Poz> what is the next step Mahacishnu?
[22:18] <theadmin> ftn: Normally they get autoremoved, but if that bugged out you can use a program like alacarte or lxmed to remove the orphans manually
[22:18] <nsaquatics> This is the package: www.moschip.com/data/products/MCS8140/MCS8140_US_Linux.tar.gz when I go to "make", it errors out.
[22:19] <pfifo> nsaquatics, can you pastebin the entire build output
[22:19] <ftn> theadmin got them, there were old files in ~/.local/share/applications  Thanks for your time! :)
[22:20] <super789> thanks
[22:20] <nsaquatics> pfifo, sure
[22:20] <FrozenFire> Is it possible to use xorg-edgers, but not use the xserver-xorg-input-* packages?
[22:20] <MahaVishnu> Poz, did you update-grub ?
[22:20] <theadmin> ftn: np, glad to be of help
[22:20] <FrozenFire> These touchpad drivers are sure harshing my buzz :P
[22:20] <Poz> yes
[22:20] <nsaquatics> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/VWJNMAAH
[22:21] <pfifo> nsaquatics, did you install your kernel headers?
[22:21] <racar> Hello folks, i want to do a "screenshot" of a selected area with clicking anywhere ( like the screenshot app in the accessories )  I want to show a menu in a application but if i click anywhere, the menu is gone. Any idea ? l
[22:21] <nsaquatics> Yes.
[22:21] <nsaquatics> pfifo,yes
[22:21] <pfifo> racar, use gimp's screenshot
[22:22] <MahaVishnu> Poz, listen carefully. maybe write this down on paper. When you reboot. it will load in text mode ( so maybe you can see why its taking so long to boot ) now. depending on your setup wou *might* need to type sudo service lightdm start OR sudo service gdm start and you *might* need to hit ctrl+alt+f7 after that.
[22:22] <FrozenFire> preludelinux_tv, Keep it in-channel, if you please ;)
[22:22] <Poz> lol ok
[22:22] <FrozenFire> And no, I haven't messed with xorg.conf, because that tends to break the autoconfiguration
[22:22] <MahaVishnu> Poz, questions ?
[22:23] <racar> pfifo, if i use gimp i need to click somewhere so the menu will disappear
[22:23] <super789> is there any change that i can do to the system so that the desktop becomes more fluid?
[22:23] <bpietro> racar: or gimps' screenshot, as pfifo say, or delayed one (whole screen) and then cut it
[22:24] <Poz> i think i got it
[22:24] <Poz> so should i go try and report back here?
[22:24] <MahaVishnu> Poz, yea.
[22:24] <Poz> k
[22:25] <racar> bpietro , yes i can do a whole screenshot but i need to edit after.  Thats making me sad ;)
[22:26] <bpietro> racar: have a cake and eat it :)
[22:27] <racar> hahaha
[22:27] <pfifo> nsaquatics, can you verify that this file exists /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-34-generic/include/config/auto.conf
[22:29] <buster1> I now have a fresh 11.10 installation. Should Jockey be offering me drivers for my Nvidia GTX570? Or should Nouveau have been installed automatically?
[22:29] <nsaquatics> pfifo, yes I can... it's there..
[22:30] <pfifo> nsaquatics, well in that case i would say that the module isnt compatable with the kernel version you have
[22:30] <super789> pfifo i had the ubuntu running in the p3 500. shut down the computer, started it and i doesnt do nothing after pickup linux normal startup or recovery mode.. just a black screen...
[22:30] <nsaquatics> pfifo, Well that figures...
[22:30] <pfifo> nsaquatics, there is also the chance that their build system is misconfigured
[22:30] <nsaquatics> I guess I'll try and hassle the manufacturer to see if they can't update it..
[22:32] <rstreeter> I am having issues with my wireless in 11.10
[22:32] <poz> MahVishnu!!!!!!
[22:32] <poz> i am back
[22:33] <poz> so there was still a purple screen
[22:33] <rstreeter> was wondering how to fix this due to the fact that I can't connect to the net
[22:33] <poz> then some text
[22:33] <DasRacis> hey whats grey and looks good on a police officer
[22:33] <MahaVishnu> poz, good. what did your journey teach you.
[22:33] <DasRacis> the world trade center
[22:33] <poz> then i loged in and typed the stuff you told me too and here i am
[22:34] <poz> i took a picture of the text screen
[22:34] <poz> some error or somthing
[22:34] <ScramTech> Well I finally got my RocketRAID 2640 controller working.  lshw shows me it's logical name is /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sdb2.  I assume I need to mount sdb1 and sdb2 to something so that I can access them?
[22:34] <MahaVishnu> DasRacis, wow. dude. go die
[22:34] <MahaVishnu> !ops | DasRacis
[22:34] <poz> i will send it to myself in an email and then send it to you some how
[22:35] <MahaVishnu> thx jpds ;-)
[22:35] <MahaVishnu> poz, upload to imageshack.us or somethin
[22:36] <poz> ok
[22:37] <cosm0s> Buenas. Alguien ha configurado una desatendida ?
[22:38] <GridCube> !imagebin | MahaVishnu , poz
[22:38] <nsaquatics> pfifo, thanks for helping..
[22:38] <Q-collective> is there some way to put the dock in Unity on the right instead of on the left? it's really not a good place to be on the left in my experience, as many apps put their functional UI controls there too.
[22:38] <Q-collective> so the dock is in the way
[22:38] <poz> thanks ubottu, but imageshack.us worked fine
[22:38] <pfifo> Q-collective, rotate your monitor 180 degrees
[22:38] <poz> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/20111210172738.jpg/
[22:39] <Q-collective> pfifo: that merely reverses my problem and adds another bunch of usability issues :-)
[22:39] <RonaldJ> Does anyone know how to slowdown the mouse scrollwheel under linuxmint?
[22:39] <poz> q-collective... sacrifices must be made...
[22:40] <DJones> !mint | RonaldJ
[22:40] <poz> ubottu, how are you so smart?
[22:40] <MahaVishnu> poz, pastebin lsmod | grep tpm
[22:40] <RonaldJ> join #linuxmint-help
[22:41] <poz> do i type the into a terminal?
[22:41] <MahaVishnu> poz, yea meng.
[22:41] <sburwood1> I've been trying to update my computer for the past 16 days.  I get packages upgraded, but the system tells me that there is a problem with a GPG key and that I haven't updated the packages for the past 16 days.  What do I need to do to resolve the problem?
[22:42] <poz> poz@ubuntu:~$ lsmod | grep tpm *new line* tpm_tis                18546  0
[22:42] <poz> thats what i get
[22:42] <urlin2u> RonaldJ, /join
[22:42] <RonaldJ> DJones a empty channel is not helping me a lot.
[22:42] <moepigal124h> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
[22:43] <sburwood1> Anyone with an idea??
[22:43] <bpietro> RonaldJ: on irc.spotchat.org, not here
[22:43] <Canadian1296> sburwood1 i can help
[22:43] <DJones> RonaldJ: You need to connect to a different irc network, irc.spotchat.org instead of the freenode network that the ubuntu support channels are on
[22:43] <Matthew> Turkce bilen var mý?
[22:43] <Matthew> Turkce bilen var mý?
[22:43] <DJones> !tr | Matthew
[22:43] <sburwood1> Canadian1296: How?
[22:43] <pfifo> sburwood1, can you paste bin apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[22:43] <MahaVishnu> poz, blacklist tpm_tis add that to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:44] <Matthew> Thansk
[22:44] <urlin2u> sburwood1, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys (gpg key)
[22:44] <sburwood1> pfifo: I will get back to that
[22:44] <Canadian1296> sburwood1: Try wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | apt-key add -
[22:44] <sburwood1> urlin2u: I'll do that, too
[22:44] <Canadian1296> that works when making a livecd
[22:44] <super789> in the grub, i pick generic ubuntu just get a black screen with a dash bliking a couple os seconds later the screen show the no signal warning.. and i can boot ubuntu. any hint?
[22:45] <RonaldJ> bpietro DJones Ok Thanks!!!
[22:45] <super789> *i cant
[22:45] <mamece2> hello, how can i kill a process? i did X in the CLI but is really messy, so i go back with ctrl+alt+F1 and i cant get back to CLI
[22:45] <bpietro> :)
[22:45] <DJones> RonaldJ: You're welcome
[22:45] <poz> do i just add the line tpm_tis at the end of the file or somthing?
[22:45] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | super789
[22:46] <MahaVishnu> poz, blacklist tpm_tis
[22:47] <poz> k, done
[22:47] <webnet> Hi all! :D whats shakin?
[22:47] <MahaVishnu> poz, k reboot and see if the error is gone / boots faster.
[22:47] <sburwood1> urlin2u: I did your command
[22:48] <poz> ok. ill report back here when its done
[22:48] <urlin2u> sburwood1, with the gpg key inserted that you get in a apt-get update in the terminal?
[22:48] <unitheory> mamece2, what do you mean by CLI ?
[22:49] <bpietro> mamece2: Ctrl+Alt+F2, another terminal, then log in and kill X
[22:49] <mamece2> unitheory:  command line interface
[22:49] <buster1> mamece2: not really sure what you mean. maybe "sudo stop lightdm".
[22:50] <rodman> hey guys, i am trying to get a usb hdd to be auto mounted (with rw permission for users in group 'admin') but i can't get it done. what's the prefered way? fstab or udev rules? there's a massive article on the latter on serverfault but it seems SO complicated compared to adding a single line to fstab.
[22:50] <mamece2> bpietro: when i do ctrl+alt+F2 i get to the messed up X
[22:50] <buster1> "kill a process"?
[22:50] <moepigal124h> https://bitly.com/uPBolO+
[22:50] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Does this jibberish mean something to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/766380/
[22:50] <unitheory> kill a process: pkill -9 processname
[22:50] <Q-collective> or killall <processname>
[22:50] <mamece2> unitheory: i cant get to another cli
[22:51] <unitheory> mamece2, can you ctrl+alt+backspace the x ?
[22:51] <pfifo> rodman, the udev method is preferred for removable devices
[22:51] <poz> MahaVishnu, I am back!
[22:52] <rodman> pfifo: is there a very simple approach to it?
[22:52] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Does the paste mean something?
[22:52] <rodman> (couldnt find any)
[22:52] <pfifo> rodman, manually mount
[22:52] <urlin2u> sburwood1, not sure can you pastebin all the text from running sudo apt-get update in a paste bin
[22:52] <Canadian1296> im building my ideal livecd (much thanks to pfifo and webnet), and im trying to decide what packages i should install. Im install packages like parted, emacs, aircrack, tcpdump, testdisk, photorec, wipe, etc. Any more i should get?
[22:53] <rodman> pfifo: but then i have to use sudo and it won't be available to other users
[22:53] <MahaVishnu> poz, succesor ?
[22:53] <bpietro> mamece2: last resort - remote login from another box  :) or hard reset
[22:53] <poz> ok, so it was purple for a bit, not very long. maybe 30 seconds... then it did the text thing. no errors and then i logged in and typed the lightdm start thing
[22:53] <poz> it was faster
[22:53] <MahaVishnu> poz, so no more error either ?
[22:53] <poz> no more error
[22:53] <poz> all "[OK]
[22:54] <poz> "
[22:54] <pfifo> rodman, you can add options to a manual mount to let users access it. you could put in in fstab but it will only automount on boot, udev will make it automount when it gets plugged in
[22:54] <MahaVishnu> poz, ok you can change. /etc/default/grub that line from "text" back to "quiet splash" you remeber where?
[22:54] <poz> yes
[22:54] <kimp> hey!  Whats a good choice of IRC client?
[22:54] <poz> and then updated it?
[22:54] <unitheory> kimp, uplink
[22:54] <webnet> Canadian1296, which version are you building from 10.X or 11.X
[22:54] <pfifo> kimp, mIRC with wine
[22:54] <rodman> pfifo: thanks, i will look for that
[22:54] <Canadian1296> 10.04
[22:54] <webnet> kimp, XCHAT is the one i use :)
[22:55] <MahaVishnu> poz, then update that bad boy.
[22:55] <Canadian1296> building 10.04 under 10.04
[22:55] <kimp> hey webnet, thanks for your help a few days ago.  Turned out I needed a new hard drive...
[22:56] <ScramTech>  I know it's been awhile... but I finally got the RocketRAID 2640 drivers installed and it worked!  I had to sort out the instructions between the two guides and make a custom dkms.conf file.  The raid array now shows up as /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb1 (old windows boot partition), and /dev/sdb2 (main array where windows was installed).
[22:56] <MahaVishnu> poz, glad it worked for ya. I gotta run out now ;-)
[22:56] <ScramTech> I'm kind of stuck now though... from my reading it seems I need to mount  the /dev/sdb devices somehow... but I'm not sure how?  Would it be possible to create a mount point called "raid", mount /sdb to that and reformat the array before I go and try to add it to /etc/fstab?
[22:56] <poz> k
[22:56] <poz> thanks!!!
[22:56] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Here's a lot of stuff pastebin.ubuntu.com/766384/
[22:56] <poz> ALOT!
[22:56] <mamece2> i have x problems, i have a trident video card , when i try to load X i get no screen error
[22:56] <ScramTech> I don't mean to be a bother with more questions, I am just not having much luck with the ubuntu server docs.  :)
[22:56] <bpietro> kimp: oh, with today's prices  :(
[22:56] <webnet> kimp ahh howd you figure that oout?
[22:56] <sam22> hail !!! people of this channel!
[22:57] <sam22> o/
[22:57] <webnet> bpietro, they arent too bad for ones like maxtor
[22:57] <webnet> sam22 Hi! lol
[22:57] <tightwork> anyone know about opennebula-sunstone? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opennebula/+bug/902597
[22:57] <connor_> Hey guys
[22:58] <connor_> Any of you guys got any expirence with SD readers?
[22:58] <sburwood1> urlin2u: get the gist of the problem?
[22:58] <Canadian1296> connor_ Hi
[22:58] <connor_> I've got a massive problem, if anybody could help me solve it, I'd be eternally gretefull.
[22:58] <sburwood1> connor_: I had a problem with my EEPC and its SD card reader
[22:58] <rypervenche> !ask | connor_
[22:59] <urlin2u> sburwood1, I see oneiric and natty hits do you know how to open the sources.list in read and write and adjust this mixture of mirrors.
[22:59] <sburwood1> connor_: but I sent it back to ASUS and they replaced the mother board
[22:59] <kimp> webnet, I had three partitions to start with.  After I installed ubuntu (many times!) I had 5, all of which windows reported as primary.  I thought windows was mis-reporting.  Anyhow, got a new disk with not partitions and started again.  Very happy!  Also, had to drop back to lucid, which suits me fine!
[22:59] <Canadian1296> connor_ what's your question
[22:59] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Tell me how, and I'll try
[22:59] <connor_> Well, basically, I've got a new laptop, and then realised that the lock mechanism in the SD reader doesn't work
[23:00] <connor_> The spring-loaded bit works, but the lock doesn't. :/
[23:00] <urlin2u> sburwood1, have you added any ppa's or is your sources list basically stock with out the anomalies.
[23:00] <ikonia> connor_:  not really an ubuntu issue
[23:00] <bpietro> kimp: sure mis-reported, it's impossible create more then 4 primary partitions
[23:00] <sburwood1> urlin2u: ppa's??
[23:00] <connor_> I know, I'm aware
[23:01] <rypervenche> connor_: So what's your question?
[23:01] <connor_> But I thought I'd ask you lot, you seem a lovely community
[23:01] <ikonia> connor_: ok, that's not ontopic for this channel,
[23:01] <ikonia> connor_: try ##hardware
[23:01] <webnet> connor_ take it to a repair shop. sadly there isnt much we cah do here def try the hardware channel tho they may have some tips
[23:01] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all, I am having issues with 11.10 seemingly randomly logging me off.
[23:01] <reCAPTCHA> Is this common?
[23:02] <sburwood1> reCAPTCHA: I hope not.  I've never experienced that
[23:02] <urlin2u> sburwood1, ppa's are 3rd party repos for stuff in launchpaad. So here is a link to generate the stock sources.list for what ever version you have installed Oneiric I suspect. You can use it a a refrence as to what your source list should look like. You can open yours with gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:02] <urlin2u> pastebin.ubuntu.com/766384/
[23:03] <webnet> reCAPTCHA, well... its most likely a bug. Oneric JUST came out and so it will be buggy for a while. i dont know of any sort of issue that might cause that
[23:03] <bpietro> connor_: you have a problem, Asus replaced MoBo. Problem resolved or persist?
[23:03] <sburwood1> urlin2u: The only ppa I can think of is Opera
[23:03] <reCAPTCHA> It seems to happen mostly when I have firefox open... I thought maybe it was an issue with flash... but now it is happening when I am not viewing any flash.
[23:04] <reCAPTCHA> I actually had a similar issue with 10.04
[23:04] <urlin2u> sburwood1, sorry here is the link http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/   you could replace yours with the websites if needed. If you have a opera it is probably in the sources.list.d
[23:05] <InvaderZim> Help, Ubuntu (not classic nor unity) is creating a nautilus process that eats up all my cpu, giving loads of 5.0
[23:06] <kimp> I'm now trying to upgrade PHPUnit from the lucid default (V3.4).  Any tips?
[23:07] <InvaderZim> nautilus process command is: nautlius /home/user/Desktop
[23:07] <skreanata> hey ubuntu guys. I am tring to extract a clip from a video using ffmpeg? can anyone help me with the code?
[23:08] <buster1> skreanata: how far have you got?
[23:08] <Canadian1296> skreanata, like just choose a portion of the video to save as a new clip?
[23:08] <InvaderZim> and just for the record, my desktop icons have disappeared
[23:08] <InvaderZim> a logout/login will show them again
[23:08] <skreanata> i am newbie to ffmpeg but i have successfully converted some videos. my main problem is i want to extract the clip with same quality, same codec, same audio and video bitrate
[23:09] <skreanata> main point is i want everything in same quality.
[23:09] <InvaderZim> skreanata: look the manual, the codec you want to use is called "copy"
[23:09] <InvaderZim> skreanata: man ffmpeg. the command uses like -acopy -vcopy
[23:09] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the Natty hits?
[23:10] <skreanata> i have looked at manual. and that is where i learned all the things from. but i wanted to get some help from a person.
[23:10] <buster1> InvaderZim, you said "giving loads of 5.0",what does that mean?
[23:10] <skreanata> thanks invaderzim.
[23:10] <InvaderZim> buster1: load average: 5.0 (1 min)
[23:10] <buster1> skreanata: do the ffmpeg guys have a support channel?
[23:10] <skreanata> invader may i talk to you in separate window?
[23:11] <InvaderZim> skreanata: that would not be helpful as others wouldn't gain from it
[23:11] <skreanata> buster1: i don't know about their support channel. i googled there forum but i tought i may as well get help from ubuntu irc channel.
[23:11] <buster1> it's really for supporting ubuntu itself.
[23:11] <InvaderZim> skreanata: From the man pages: -vcodec codec Force video codec to codec. Use the "copy" special value to tell that the raw codec data must be copied as is.
[23:12] <skreanata> InvaderZim: wait a moment let me look manual.
[23:12] <InvaderZim> skreanata: useful if you just want to change the container
[23:12] <sandjkirkland> is anybody familiar with the program wicd
[23:13] <Canadian1296> sandjkirkland: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[23:14] <sandjkirkland> canadian: I installed wicd but now the ubuntu software center does not recognize internet connection. I can install and download through terminal
[23:14] <sburwood1> urlin2u: I did what you seemed to suggest.  Now that I have saved the new info, do I need to reboot or can I try to update?
[23:15] <Canadian1296> ive never used it, i just googled wicd. Try removing it and see what happens
[23:15] <urlin2u> sburwood1, probably I was just giving you a correct list as a reference for that, and just letting you know of all the options
[23:15] <skreanata> InvaderZim: help me with one more code
[23:15] <urlin2u> sburwood1, run a update
[23:15] <sburwood1> thx
[23:16] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Hold on, I'll tell you if update manager worked out or not
[23:16] <sandjkirkland> canadian1296: by suggestions I uninstalled the original network-manager. how do I reinstall is
[23:16] <urlin2u> sburwood1, it looked like a upgrade from natty to oneric didn't remove the natty repos.
[23:16] <InvaderZim> skreanata: ?
[23:16] <skreanata> InvaderZim: suppose i have hd video. i want to convert it to smaller resolution but i want to maintain everything else. what would be the code in this case?
[23:17] <InvaderZim> skreanata: is ur name renata?
[23:17] <skreanata> i have used -sameq but the resulted video was bigger in size.
[23:17] <skreanata> InvaderZim: my real name is noman
[23:17] <sburwood1> urlin2u: Since you mentioned that, it must have been that, but I'm going to wait until I get back a response from update-manager
[23:17] <InvaderZim> skreanata: oh maybe u spoke my language, ok
[23:17] <Canadian1296> what was the original one called (how did you remove it?)
[23:18] <skreanata> InvaderZim: i speak Urdu / Hindi
[23:18] <sburwood1> urlin2u: I just got 7 packages to update, so it should be ok, now, thanks
[23:18] <sburwood1> bye
[23:18] <skreanata> InvaderZim: renata perhaps mean 'born again'
[23:18] <InvaderZim> skreanata: uhm ok not mine
[23:18] <InvaderZim> skreanata: regarding ur question, option i.e. -s 640x480
[23:18] <sandjkirkland> canadian1296: sudo update-rc.d network-manager remove
[23:20] <skreanata> InvaderZim: -s 640x480 but same audio and video bitrate and same quality same frame rate
[23:21] <skreanata> InvaderZim: also the size of resulted file should be smaller since resulted file is in lower resolution
[23:21] <Canadian1296> sandjkirkland: one sec
[23:21] <jethrogb> do other people have problems with the ubuntu extras repo?
[23:21] <InvaderZim> skreanata: can't tell u, I would try it on a few seconds video to see the result. but if u want to be sure just specify the fps and bitrate and etc
[23:22] <jethrogb> I'm getting this error when running apt-get update: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key
[23:22] <Canadian1296> sandjkirkland: I have no idea… Sorry i couldnt help
[23:22] <jethrogb> the keyserver doesn't have any new signatures
[23:22] <xwin> I have compiled a code but this is not seen in the synaptic, anyone knows how to solve this problem?
[23:23] <skreanata> InvaderZim: i don't want to specify fps and bitrate because if the source video is in lower fps and bitrate, there is no use in using higher fps and bitrate for resulted video. so i want ffmpeg to take the same fps and bitrate
[23:23] <sandjkirkland> canadian1296: thanks for trying
[23:25] <Canadian1296> skreanata: ill check, but im pretty sure theres a same quality argument that does just that...
[23:26] <skreanata> InvaderZim: yeah there's a -sameq argument but that is for only video, as far as i know. let me check again.
[23:26] <Crash_O-D> http://paste.ubuntu.com/766400/ errors when trying to make a file to install
[23:26] <aperture> is there a simple one line command to cd two folders up? for example: "cd .. cd .. "?
[23:27] <skreanata> InvaderZim: -sameq = same video bit rate
[23:27] <Metaphysicist> So guys, I have a question about ACPI. I'm on a SONY VAIO laptop, using Xubuntu 11.10, and my FN Volume keys work, but my brightness keys don't. Also, the idle screen brightness change DOES work for power management. What should I do?
[23:27] <mamece2> hello, how can i mount a usb drive from cli, i need to copy a file into a pendrive
[23:27] <Canadian1296> skreanata, yeah thats it (-sameq), but i misunderstood the question.
[23:27] <Metaphysicist> Also, I have yet to install proprietary drivers for my ATI card, will that fix it?
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  mkdir pendrive; sudo mount /dev/blah pendrive
[23:28] <teej_m> Ok, i've tried googling through this problem but I'm having a hard time understanding what I'm seeing.  I've got an ubuntu derver.  When i type 'df' it says I'm out of space on my main partition (9/9 gigs).  But when I use 'du -hs' it says I'm only using 1.3 gigs
[23:28] <skreanata> InvaderZim: i can't find same video bitrate option in manual.
[23:28] <sandjkirkland> anybody familiar with network-manager applet for oneiric
[23:29] <skreanata> InvaderZim:  oh sorry i can't find same AUDIO bitrate option in manual
[23:29] <mamece2> MonkeyDust: how can i know the place where the pendrive will be assigned
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  df -h
[23:29] <skreanata> InvaderZim: i mean what would be equivalent of -sameq for Audio?
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  normally, if you plug the pendrive, it is mounted in /media
[23:30] <mechbo> anybody know what "Send retweets to all services" does in Gwibber ?
[23:31] <colonelqubit> I'm looking for an easy-to-install videochat solution between Ubuntu and OSX. Empathy supports xmpp/jingle, but are there any OSX clients with support for jingle?
[23:31] <jsebean> hello, I recently change my sql passwork and installed pma on my ubuntu server, PMA seems to work fine and login file, however, when I click the privileges tab it takes me back to the login screen. Any ideas?
[23:31] <InvaderZim> skreanata: why changing the audio bitrate?
[23:31] <InvaderZim> skreanata: you just want to change the video size, dont mess with the audio part
[23:31] <Metaphysicist> Nothing on being able to change screen brightness?
[23:32] <robinsch> hi all, I installed a program that used half of my 16gb ram as swap space, now I uninstalled the program but my total ram still shows up as 8gb, even in BIOS
[23:32] <robinsch> how can I fix this thanks
[23:32] <mechbo> Power Manager Brightness Applet is nice on 10.10
[23:32] <jsebean> hello, I recently change my sql password and installed pma on my ubuntu server, PMA seems to work fine and login file, however, when I click the privileges tab it takes me back to the login screen. Any ideas?
[23:32] <xwin> I have compiled a code but this is not seen in the synaptic, anyone knows how to solve this problem?
[23:32] <ikonia> jsebean: you just said that
[23:33] <ikonia> xwin: the desktop is not aware of your software
[23:33] <sandjkirkland> anybody familiar with network-manager applet for oneiric
[23:33] <jsebean> ikonia: any ideas?
[23:33] <ikonia> xwin: the menu items are normally added as part of the .deb packaged software, you've just compiled code, so the desktop has no idea about it
[23:33] <Metaphysicist> mechbo: I'm on Xubuntu.
[23:33] <_cb> how can I add/remove apps to the left bar (what is it called?) in Ubuntu 11.10? How about the indicator applets on top?
[23:33] <skreanata> InvaderZim: wouldn't audio quality decrease if i don't tell ffmpeg to keep audio intact?
[23:34] <ikonia> jsebean: I don't use that applicatiom, however getting a stack trace maybe useful
[23:35] <Canadian1296> skreanata: what are you trying to do exactly?
[23:35] <skreanata> InvaderZim: Well i am not change audio bitrate. I am infact telling ffmpeg not to change it.
[23:35] <super789> while adding the nomodeset do boot up parametar should i delete the "_vt. handoff.7" that is after the quiet spalsh???
[23:35] <InvaderZim> skreanata: just use the copy codec for audio
[23:36] <super789> urlin2u: can you advise me?
[23:36] <skreanata> InvaderZim: at this time i am not trying to do anything. but my common use case is. 1. extracting clips from movies. 2. converting entire movie to a lower resolution but keeping audio video quality intact.
[23:37] <dlbike76> How long does it usually take to run a check for badblocks?
[23:37] <skreanata> InvaderZim: well at this time i don't have a video at hand that i want to convert. but as soon as i download a new movie, i will try "copy".
[23:37] <MonkeyDust> dlbike76  depends on the size of your disk and the speed of your pc
[23:39] <dlbike76> MonkeyDust: I'm checking a 50 gig partition on dual core AMD64 with SATA disk.
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> dlbike76  if you don't want to wait for it, do it overnight, while you sleep
[23:39] <dlbike76> MonkeyDust: So it's normal for it to take hours?
[23:39] <skreanata> InvaderZim: it's time to go. thanks for all the help.
[23:40] <urlin2u> super789, I ncan't really help any more here other than the original nomodeset option, this option is to get you to the dektop to install drivers if needed like a graphic driver.
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> dlbike76  can't say, haven't done it, so foar
[23:40] <MonkeyDust> far*
[23:40] <InvaderZim> skreanata: no prob hope that it helped somewhat
[23:40] <super789> ok thx
[23:40] <InvaderZim> skreanata: yes try -acopy for the audio
[23:40] <crassus> Is there an up-to-date PPA for the R Language?
[23:40] <InvaderZim> skreanata: if you want to make it intact
[23:40] <crassus> the version in the Ubuntu universal repos is old...
[23:40] <dlbike76> MonkeyDust: Yeah this is the first time that I've had the unfortune of doing it.
[23:41] <xwin> i
[23:41] <seniseni> hello.. can anyone help me with hardware select for buying new computer
[23:41] <urlin2u> super789, what ever edit you do in the grub kernel using e is aalso a per session change only it does not write it to the disc.
[23:41] <skreanata> InvaderZim: yeah it helped. -acodec copy -vcodec copy ;)
[23:41] <Rapido3011> seniseni Sure.
[23:42] <Rapido3011> seniseni What do you need to know?
[23:42] <imp|cat> Seniseni: intel + nvidia
[23:42] <skreanata> InvaderZim:  ok man time to go. thanks for the help. bye bye
[23:42] <seniseni> Rapido3011: hm, i want something on intel i5.. but i dont know what chipset on motherboard i need to buy
[23:42] <dagerik> how to i switch between windows in the gnome desktop? its to much work to click the windows button to see everything, and then click the one i want
[23:42] <sandking> hi
[23:42] <unitheory> HI
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> dagerik  alt-tab
[23:43] <dagerik> MonkeyDust: i have too many windows
[23:43] <Rapido3011> seniseni All Intel motherboards are guaranteed to work with Ubuntu
[23:43] <Canadian1296> good packages to put on a livecd?
[23:43] <Tillman32> degerik: Alt-Tab + Directional Arrow
[23:43] <dagerik> MonkeyDust: well okay, i guess i can live with alt tab. thanks
[23:44] <foul_owl> how do i connect to a wpa2 access point using the command line? gnome network manager/nm-applet is broken and beyond hope.
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> dagerik  use more than one virtual desktop
[23:44] <seniseni> Rapido3011: nice, but i looking for good hardware "list" to buy)) argh my english bad.. u dont know where i can look at good "picks" of hardware)
[23:44] <super789> urlin2u: do you know any command to make the ubuntu system more lighter? i'm installing it in a old pc (p3 500, 200mb ram)
[23:44] <sandking> i want to map a mouse wheel action to my scroll wheel in Intuos 4 tablet. how the mouse wheel action is seen by the system in terms of naming? i don't know what to type into mapping scheme (when i want to map shift key i use "key shift" but what with scroll?)
[23:44] <Rapido3011> seniseni There isn't a real up-to-date list for hardware
[23:44] <tamale1> Hi everyone, I can't boot into my ubuntu 11.10 server because X is failing (I think). I can't even bring up any virtualterminals.  So, I'm in a live USB instead and I'm trying to diagnose what's wrong with the machine.  The hard drive looks fine, but there's an X11/xorg.conf file in /etc.  Can I try removing this file completely to reset X?
[23:45] <seniseni> Rapido3011: im mean not about ubuntu or linux.. just "good" hardware on market )
[23:45] <abstrakt> hahahah, Unity is such a joke, I can't believe this
[23:45] <abstrakt> it's so bad
[23:45] <indystorm> hey why can't I dock pidgin to the side of gnome 2 in ubuntu like I can in windows?!?
[23:45] <Rapido3011> seniseni Okay, well that depends what you want to do with it, what are your needs
[23:45] <abstrakt> how come I can't find vim
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> abstrakt  not here, please
[23:45] <abstrakt> I just ran sudo apt-get install vim-gnome
[23:45] <abstrakt> and I can't add vim to my launcher
[23:45] <webnet> wow som many people on the windows IRC are idiots. God i love linux people SO much better. Everyone in that channel are in their high know it all horse with flame wars about hardware and crap...
[23:46] <abstrakt> because it can't be found in the stupid "ubuntu menu"
[23:46] <mamece2> MonkeyDust: im in cli
[23:46] <abstrakt> how do I add gvim to my launch bar?
[23:46] <seniseni> Rapido3011: litle of ruby/python, blender, world of warcraft by wine (opengl), lamp, passenger, postgres...
[23:46] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  yes, and?
[23:46] <sandjkirkland> how do I install nm applet for network-manager
[23:46] <webnet> I <3 FOSS community. where people actualaly want to help people instead of have ego wars
[23:46] <abstrakt> what's the proper way to move over to xfce from GNOME?
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> abstrakt  backup and fresh install
[23:47] <abstrakt> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[23:47] <webnet> abstrakt, ok terminal
[23:47] <webnet> abstrakt,  sudo apt-get install xfce
[23:47] <abstrakt> MonkeyDust, hahaha wtf? no way, lol
[23:47] <gogeta> bo
[23:47] <abstrakt> webnet, what about xubuntu-desktop isn't that a package?
[23:48] <webnet> abstrakt, oh yeah i do believe so. haha forgot about tht :D
[23:48] <mamece2> MonkeyDust: i plugged the usb and nothing happened
[23:48] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  look in /media
[23:48] <Rapido3011> seniseni The new Intel i5 Sandy-bridge APU's are more than capable to play WoW, so separate video card is needed. If you need some more punch I'd go for a Nvidia GTX card
[23:48] <mamece2> MonkeyDust: nothing
[23:49] <tamale1> Hi everyone, I can't boot into my ubuntu 11.10 server because X is failing (I think). I can't even bring up any virtualterminals.  So, I'm in a live USB instead and I'm trying to diagnose what's wrong with the machine.  The hard drive looks fine, but there's an X11/xorg.conf file in /etc.  Can I try removing this file completely to reset X?
[23:49] <MonkeyDust> mamece2  maybe the pendrive is broken
[23:49] <Rapido3011> seniseni Correction: is not needed for WoW the i5 is enough
[23:49] <Barbariandude> for {find . -type f -iname "*.mp3"}; do ffmpeg -i "$name" "$name".ogg; done;
[23:49] <Barbariandude> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `. <--- what am I doing wrong?
[23:49] <FrozenFire> seniseni, Just don't get anything with hybrid graphics.
[23:49] <mamece2> MonkeyDust: nope. i just try it in this pc
[23:49] <prodigel> hi all. I'm having troubles install/configuring fglrx on my laptop. I've tried the ubuntu tutorials with no success, also 32/64 bit (some problems seem to be related to that, not sure). I'm using a hybrid graphics notebook intel/amd videocards. anyone experienced?
[23:49] <webnet> g2g all! :P sionara!
[23:50] <FrozenFire> I got saddled with an i3 with Optimus graphics, using the nVidia 330M, and I've never had more issues, ever, with a system.
[23:50] <seniseni> FrozenFire: dont get i5 u mean?
[23:50] <FrozenFire> seniseni, I mean be careful of what you get.
[23:50] <seniseni> argh, its so COMPLICATED.. to pick setup for new computer
[23:50] <Barbariandude> seniseni, FrozenFire is right, I'm on an i7, tons of problems with optimus
[23:50] <seniseni> Barbariandude: omg (
[23:50] <FrozenFire> The Intel Core processors are fine on their own.
[23:50] <gogeta> Barbariandude: yea the kernel has issues using tubo boost on the i serise
[23:50] <FrozenFire> But they often come bundled with the Optimus bullshit.
[23:50] <Rapido3011> seniseni Go Intel, something with an H61 or P67 chipset
[23:51] <FrozenFire> Worst. Idea. Ever.
[23:51] <foul_owl> how do i connect to a wpa2 access point using the command line? I keep getting "EAPOL:  SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED" then "EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE"
[23:51] <MonkeyDust> foul_owl  explore the commands iwlist and iwconfig
[23:51] <warfaren> with ubuntu default settings, will my harddrive auto power down after a certain amount of inactive time?
[23:51] <gogeta> foul_owl: you need to use wpa_supplcment
[23:51] <Barbariandude> gogeta, no, not turbo, it's optimus. Nvidia wrote a half-assed windows driver and no linux driver
[23:51] <foul_owl> im using wpa_supplicant, i need to know how to write a config file for it
[23:51] <seniseni> Rapido3011: yep! any of them? or concrete?.. or Z68?
[23:52] <seniseni> Rapido3011: its big problem to choose for me
[23:52] <gogeta> foul_owl: add the ssid and passfrase to it
[23:52] <foul_owl> all the tutorials i have found only cover wpa, not wpa2
[23:52] <FrozenFire> Barbariandude, Though, if you've not heard of it already, take a look at ironhide.
[23:52] <gogeta> foul_owl: they work the same
[23:52] <FrozenFire> It at least manages to get my system fan to stop running 24/7
[23:52] <foul_owl> same config file for both?
[23:52] <foul_owl> I keep getting "EAPOL:  SUPP_PAE entering state DISCONNECTED" then "EAPOL: KEY_RX entering state NO_KEY_RECEIVE"
[23:53] <Rapido3011> seniseni I have a H61 board for a HTPC in combination wth an i3 2100 and that all runs just fine
[23:53] <Barbariandude> FrozenFire, from my experience, Bumblebee (the resurrected community one without MrMEEE) works better than ironhide
[23:53] <FrozenFire> Barbariandude, Really?
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> what's ironhide?
[23:53] <gogeta> foul_owl: do sudo wpa_passfrase ssid "passfrase" > /etc/wpa_supplcment.conf
[23:53] <FrozenFire> Barbariandude, I've been having major issues with ironhide not having any real support for my system.
[23:53] <gogeta> foul_owl: i probly missplled it
[23:54] <FrozenFire> It somehow manages to get the nVidia graphics to turn off, but that's about it.
[23:54] <trism> abstrakt: doesn't seem to find gvim here either, unless I copy /usr/share/applications/gvim.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications, then it pops right up
[23:54] <Rapido3011> seniseni Z68 just allows you to update to the Ivy Bridge APU's
[23:54] <Barbariandude> FrozenFire, https://launchpad.net/~bumblebee/+archive/stable
[23:54] <foul_owl> ok let me try that thanks!
[23:54] <gogeta> foul_owl: that adds the key
[23:54] <Rapido3011> seniseni But they should all work jst fine
[23:54] <FrozenFire> Barbariandude, I'll give it a go.
[23:54] <FrozenFire> Anything's better than this :P
[23:55] <gogeta> foul_owl: then net link wlan0 up to bring the card up
[23:55] <Barbariandude> FrozenFire, make sure you follow their post-ironhide cleanup
[23:55] <FrozenFire> Barbariandude, Yeah, doing it now
[23:55] <gogeta> foul_owl: you will save alot of hassel makeing a script
[23:55] <doc|home> can anyone recommend software in synaptic for managing an attached (via usb) APC UPS device?
[23:55] <gogeta> brb
[23:55] <seniseni> Rapido3011: thx! u know any site with good reviews? or ready cheap seutps?..argh english
[23:56] <Barbariandude> MonkeyDust, Bumblebee and Ironhide are community projects to get optimus graphics switching working on linux, which Nvidia does not want to support
[23:56] <Rapido3011> seniseni Not really, you should check out the comparison card on Intel's site
[23:57] <penguin_03> tamale1, X inst part of ubuntu-server last i checked do you mean a TTY session?
[23:57] <Rapido3011> seniseni http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processor-comparison/compare-intel-processors.html
[23:57] <seniseni> Rapido3011: oh, thx!
[23:58] <amine> join#ubuntu-fr
[23:58] <tamale1> penguin_03: Sorry, I'm not being very accurate - it's a home server, but it's a standard ubuntu install
[23:58] <gogeta> foul_owl: back
[23:58] <gogeta> foul_owl:  wpa_passphrase mywireless_ssid "secretpassphrase" > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[23:58] <FrozenFire> Barbariandude, **for some systems :P
[23:58] <FrozenFire> They're strictly a reverse-engineering deal
[23:58] <gogeta> add your info to that
[23:58] <gogeta> thats the proper wpa2 formating
[23:59] <amine> bsr svp pour aler sur salon fr
[23:59] <yeats> !fr | amine
[23:59] <gogeta> foul_owl: ip link set wlan0 up to bring the card up
[23:59] <Barbariandude> FrozenFire, what I meant by project is that it's an ongoing thing thats not done
[23:59] <foul_owl> thanks let me try that too
[23:59] <penguin_03> tamale1, X is a very big security risk on servers, you should at least disable it when it isnt in use, nonetheless do you have any more information on the problem?
[23:59] <gogeta> foul_owl: the first comand you only need to do once