[07:10] <sagaci> benonsoftware: did you fix that bzr+ssh issue
[07:11] <benonsoftware> sagaci: Well no, but I am using a friends shell/server for bzr/git/svn now :)
[07:12] <benonsoftware> sagaci: What made you remember that?
[07:13] <sagaci> since I got an email from you closing the bug, 
[07:13] <benonsoftware> Ah
[07:14] <benonsoftware> Yeah I closed it because it isn't there any more
[07:16] <sagaci> it's still in oneiric, but just fixed in precise... probably not an issue really
[07:16] <benonsoftware> Ok
[07:19] <sagaci> fyi, <sagaci_> a quick google has fixed the bzr+ssh thing benonsoftware ran into... I'm setting up a bzr on cygwin myself and ran into it... just need to `set BZR_SSH=paramiko`
[07:19] <benonsoftware> Ah thanks
[07:33] <sagaci> np
[08:14] <tom_a_sparks> hows the weather?
[08:15] <tom_a_sparks> I have lightning @ home :(
[08:15] <benonsoftware> Mixed in Eastern Melbourne
[08:15]  * benonsoftware pray that it rains Monday night
[08:16] <tom_a_sparks> I hope I dont have a blackout, the light have been flickering
[08:19] <benonsoftware> :)
[08:36] <head_victim> I lost power for a while this afternoon. We had some storms roll through and they're meant to keep coming throuhgout the evening.
[08:36] <benonsoftware> :(
[08:38] <tom_a_sparks> :(
[08:38] <sagaci> so you might not be able to make it to the meeting in around 90 mins
[08:38] <benonsoftware> Sorry, I can't come to the meeting
[08:48] <gorilla>  head_victim feel free to postpone if you can't be here. :-)
[09:33] <sagaci> we'll see how this 3G connection holds up
[10:01] <sagaci> #startmeeting Ubuntu-AU December IRC Meeting
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[10:01] <sagaci> #chair sagaci head_victim 
[10:01] <meetingology> Current chairs: head_victim sagaci
[10:01] <sagaci> agenda - http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/281/detail/
[10:02] <sagaci> Hi, if anyone is around for the meeting, just say hi or something similar to register your attendance
[10:02] <davetv> hi
[10:03] <geoff44> Hi, I'm just observing
[10:03] <sagaci> no problem, this should be a short meeting anyhow
[10:05] <sagaci> head_victim: are you around?
[10:05] <fabricator4> hi de hi
[10:08] <sagaci> it's just that head_victim has the only agenda item so unless he's around we might just have to cancel this meeting
[10:09] <fabricator4> He may yet turn up?
[10:09] <sagaci> yep, I don't mind waiting a while
[10:14] <tom_a_sparks> here
[10:15] <fabricator4> Anyway...  InfoXchange Australia listed the Brisbane installfest: http://www.communitynews.infoxchange.net.au/news/detail.chtml?filename_num=393345
[10:17] <sagaci> that's a good poster
[10:17] <fabricator4> Thanks :-)
[10:17] <sagaci> have you put it on spreadubuntu
[10:18] <fabricator4> I think only the low res version was ever made available.  I should upload the full version.
[10:19] <sagaci> yep, it's easily adaptable and it's not release-specific
[10:20] <fabricator4> True, maybe I should upload the xcf with all the layers, then people could make their own as required.
[10:21] <sagaci> what did you use to create it
[10:22] <fabricator4> Gimp.  I'm a photogrpher first, graphic designer about 125th :-)
[10:23] <fabricator4> head_victim: Ping...
[10:24] <sagaci> brb..
[10:24] <fabricator4> He must 'a fallen in.
[10:27] <tom_a_sparks> your call could not be connected, check your number and try again :)
[10:32] <head_victim> Sorry all
[10:33] <head_victim> :/
[10:33] <head_victim> I'm here
[10:33] <tom_a_sparks> yay :)
[10:34] <fabricator4> Good Evening
[10:34] <davetv> gidday
[10:34] <head_victim> The current action items as far as the install fest goes are : email lca/humbug lists (I'm half way through a draft), get more people signed up to help on the wiki, try and get more community participation so more people turn up on the day.
[10:34] <sagaci> #topic Brisbane InstallFest - head_victim 
[10:35] <head_victim> Gday davetv & geoff44  nice to see new faces. tom_a_sparks long time no see, fabricator4 & sagaci sorry I'm late :/
[10:36] <fabricator4> Better late than never...
[10:36] <head_victim> Does anyone live in the Brisbane area that attends uni or tafe that might want to post it around a bunch of newsletter boards?
[10:38]  * gorilla is back at the keyboard.
[10:38] <head_victim> Or anyone have ideas for where I can put a pile of them and they might get taken?
[10:38] <fabricator4> Did we give the Library a supply?  or do they do their own (or nothing)
[10:39] <head_victim> No sure, I was going to liaise with bejames (he's the one who organised the venue) but it seemed the library were a fair bit hands off,.
[10:40] <fabricator4> Thought that might be the case.  We should be able to put one poster up somewhere on the premises though.
[10:42] <head_victim> I recall someone saying they worked at a marketing firm, did anything come of that?
[10:45] <davetv> One thing I envisage us needing is storage for ppls who have not backed up so we can get the stuff from storage after
[10:45] <davetv> docs, pics etc
[10:46] <head_victim> I'll bring a stack of DVDs but realistically, if they need to back up more than a DVDs worth it's not going to be someothing we can do on the spot.
[10:46] <sagaci> maybe take a couple of 8GB/16GB flash drives
[10:46] <gorilla> davetv: the prolem is what do you backup and how much? You could be opening a can of worms here.
[10:47] <davetv> true - but contents of \MyDocuments for example - mosta these installs will be over Windows
[10:48] <head_victim> davetv: the idea is that the user has backed up BEFORE attending. That's the goal but you do raise an important point.
[10:49] <fabricator4> Some portable hard drives?  We'd need to get their permission to backup first of course...
[10:50] <head_victim> That's why I'd like to back up to something they can take with them so we don't keep any personal data accidentally.
[10:50] <geoff44> Good demos to raise interest and then point them in the direction of the forums may be an idea
[10:50] <head_victim> geoff44: the goal is to have a table for demos, a table for the loco and a table to install on is how I see it happening.
[10:51] <geoff44> That sounds good
[10:51] <head_victim> Hopefully we'll have some talks as well
[10:52] <head_victim> I think we have the actual event covered except for maybe locking in a few more people to volunteer, the main issue I see is getting Joe Public along to participate
[10:53] <fabricator4> Probably a weak link at the moment is that the talks don't a have a schedule we can publicise.
[10:53] <davetv> most important thing I've found in convincing - converting ppls to linux is the free app base ... things like GIMP etc
[10:53] <geoff44> This is in Brisbane I gather - I'm in melb
[10:53] <fabricator4> Yes Brissy
[10:53] <gorilla> geoff44: yes, it's a Brisbane only event.
[10:53] <head_victim> geoff44: this one is, if you want to volunteer to hold one in Melbourne I'd be more than willing to support :) Heh.
[10:55] <geoff44> Unfortunately I'm a 67 year old beginner and don't consider I would be much value at this stage
[10:56] <head_victim> geoff44: No worries, just making sure the offer was made ;)
[10:57] <geoff44> One day I may be of more help
[10:57] <head_victim> davetv: yeah what I did was install linux on a second computer and slowly over 6 months swapped one program for another from windows to Linux. Then i installed Linux on my main machine and never looked back.
[10:57] <head_victim> geoff44: It's all good, we understand not everyone can do everything all at once. Don't be disheartened with technical levels either. I'm basically just a Ubuntu Users who knows enough to break things. I've got no IT education or background what so ever.
[10:58] <fabricator4> geoff44: being able to organise an event and motivating people to help is probably the most important thing.  There's probably plenty of people to handle the technical side of things.
[10:59] <davetv> Last week a brothers mate rang me from Moree re buy Laptop and what OS, put him on to a cheap Acer he installed 64 bit 10.04 (LTS) - rang me today and very happy
[11:00] <davetv> the free repositories the clincher
[11:00]  * gorilla starts work on a taking down a scammer on facebook, by getting the .tk domain name revoked.
[11:00] <gorilla> sorry.. wrong window
[11:00] <head_victim> Cool well does anyone else have anything to add to the topic of the installfest or should we call the meeting ended and keep chatting?>
[11:00] <sagaci> ... anyone?
[11:00] <davetv> I'll be at the installfest
[11:01] <geoff44> I certainly don't wish to be seen as a piker - but for a mental illness I have I am not really capable of organizing very much
[11:01] <head_victim> davetv: nice work, if you want to volunteer specific time add yourself to the wiki :)
[11:01] <davetv> will do
[11:01] <head_victim> geoff44: no stress at all mate, keep your ears out for release parties though, they're just social events :)
[11:01] <fabricator4> Can we work on a timetable for the talks?
[11:02] <head_victim> fabricator4: sure, I'd say chuck up a table of topics and start slotting in times
[11:02] <head_victim> The wiki is the perfect place for that as well.
[11:02] <fabricator4> :-)  OK
[11:02] <geoff44> This is my first time on IRC and I must say I am impressed - most of my contact for now has been on the forums
[11:03] <head_victim> geoff44: glad to hear :) We're not too scary a bunch, honest.
[11:03] <davetv> i am new too geoff
[11:03] <sagaci> #endmeeting
[11:03] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Dec 11 11:03:34 2011 UTC.  
[11:03] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2011/ubuntu-au.2011-12-11-10.01.moin.txt
[11:03] <head_victim> sagaci: sorry for running late, thanks for chairing :)
[11:04] <head_victim> I'd just like to point out that the enAU translation effort that sagaci has spearheaded basically has EVERYTHING available to be translated completed.
[11:04]  * head_victim gives sagaci a round of applause.
[11:04] <sagaci> no worries, wasn't sure if my connection would hold up
[11:04] <fabricator4> clap clap clap clap
[11:04] <sagaci> i'm slowly working on the last 5700 gcc-4.5 strings
[11:04] <davetv> eeek
[11:04] <sagaci> that don't really need to be done but for the sakes of completeness
[11:05] <head_victim> For those of you who don't know, basically whenever you select Australia as your Locale sagaci is the main reason that you have Colour instead of color and dialogue instead of dialog :)
[11:05] <davetv> kewl
[11:05] <sagaci> chromium browser is also translated, so it's a reason to use it
[11:05] <tom_a_sparks> thumps up
[11:06] <sagaci> although firefox is equally translated
[11:06] <davetv> I have opensourced a couple projects - good for CV
[11:06] <head_victim> Nice work :)
[11:06] <head_victim> fabricator4: when you add the table to the wiki make sure you email the ML so anyone else wanting to volunteer for one or two can add themselves.
[11:07] <fabricator4> OK, no worries.  I'll have to fudge a bit since mostly we've just seen expressions of interest wrt to talks.
[11:08] <head_victim> davetv: nice work
[11:08] <head_victim> fabricator4: yeah just put it up as an expression of interest, if we get enough we formalise it if we don't we wing it on the day :)
[11:09] <davetv> gonna ket into some kernel hacking for GTA-04 freerunner board
[11:09] <sagaci> next meeting details - http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/303/detail/
[11:09] <davetv> get*
[11:09] <head_victim> sagaci: nice and organised :) Thanksf or the work on the team report as well
[11:11] <head_victim> Well I have to run off again. Sorry I was late and sorry I'm heading off again but today has been "one of those days". If anyone things of anything else to add to the installfest post it to the mailing list and put it up on the wiki :)
[11:12] <chris4> Goodnight  head_victim
[11:13] <geoff44> head_victim: Thanks for the kind words
[11:13] <sagaci> head_victim: also left an unpublished entry on u.o.au so when you get time
[11:14] <chris4> Goodnight all.  Apparently I have a Wiki to update  :-)
[11:14] <geoff44> Goodnight chris4
[11:18] <geoff44> The next meeting is on Tues - correct?
[11:20] <sagaci> geoff44: no, the second Sunday of January
[11:20] <geoff44> Oh I don't know where I saw that - thank you 
[11:21] <fabricator4> Yeah, Sunday the 8th Jan.  Same time, same channel
[11:21] <sagaci> same thugs
[11:22] <fabricator4> lol
[11:22] <geoff44> fabricator: Thanks 
[11:24] <geoff44> Guess it is time to hit the road - thanks for the learning experience guys
[11:24] <geoff44> Goodnight all