[01:43] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Do you know of any bugs on Ocelot revolving around a USB mouse ceasing to work after a half hour or so and only starting to work if you touch your touchpad?
[04:27] <bdmurray> bkerensa: nope
[13:50] <mainerror> Hello.
[13:50] <mainerror> I'd like to give bug #893926 a shot but I'm not quite sure which IRC channel to join to get more information.
[13:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893926
[13:51] <mainerror> I've already asked in #ubuntu-devel by the way.
[13:52] <penguin42> mainerror: it sounds (without knowing anything about it) like it contains references in errors, documentation or other messages about UEC which doesn't exist any more
[13:54] <mainerror> Hmm, I'll just grab the files and grep over the entire file structure.
[13:54] <mainerror> Thanks. :)
[13:57] <penguin42> mainerror: #ubuntu-devel is probably not a bad bet, but it's a bit quiet at the weekend
[13:58] <mainerror> Yea, I figured it might not be the ideal time to ask. :)
[14:47] <Faqtotum> i changed a kernel bug status from "Fix Committed" to "Confirmed" but the LP janitor changed it to "Fix Released" with no changes anyway. how do i change it back to "Confirmed" now? bug# is 238208
[14:54] <Ampelbein> bug 238208
[14:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 238208 in opensuse (and 4 other projects) "Need MemoryStick driver Ricoh R5C592 (part of R5C832/822chipset) (affects: 87) (heat: 451)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238208
[14:56] <Ampelbein> Faqtotum: You should contact 'Tim Gardner', who marked it as verification-done and explain why you think it isn't fixed.
[15:00] <Faqtotum> e-mail sent
[15:03] <Ampelbein> About the "Why was it set to Fix Released": If a SRU has the "verification-done" tag, the package is copied from -proposed to -updates and automatically all the bugs mentionen in the changelog get set to Fix Released.
[16:18] <Faqtotum> Ampelbein: "verification-done" was set BEFORE it was in -proposed
[16:20] <Ampelbein> Faqtotum: No, the way is: "verification-needed" when accepting into "-proposed" (message https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/238208/comments/164), upon successful verifcation (and a one week pass), "verifcation-done" is set and the package copied to -updates (Message https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/238208/comments/167)
[16:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 238208 in opensuse (and 4 other projects) "Need MemoryStick driver Ricoh R5C592 (part of R5C832/822chipset) (affects: 87) (heat: 451)" [Undecided,New]
[16:22] <Faqtotum> Ampelbein: no, it did not appear in -proposed until #166
[16:26] <Ampelbein> Faqtotum: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/linux/3.0.0-14.23: Published on 2011-11-24, same time as message 164.
[16:26] <Faqtotum> published then, but it was not in the repo
[16:27] <Faqtotum> i kept checking the repo until it appeared
[16:38] <hggdh> Faqtotum: this is when it was cleared to move to -updates. The main archive is updated, mirrors will have a delay
[16:39] <Faqtotum> well, it was verification-done before the mirrors updated, making testing impossible, since the pkg was unavailable
[16:41] <hggdh> Faqtotum: I do not quite follow you. a move to -updates is done *after* verfirication-done
[16:42] <hggdh> a move to -proposed preseeds any verification
[16:42] <Faqtotum> it only appeared in -proposed after verification-done
[16:42] <Faqtotum> i kept waiting for it to appear there so i could test it and i did the minute it appeared
[16:45] <hggdh> yes, on 25-11; the kernel was promoted to -updates (from proposed on 12-09, and was put available on proposed on 24-11
[16:46] <hggdh> another person had verified it, so Tim moved it to -done. You should have changed the tag to verification-failed
[16:46] <hggdh> but, of course, you would have to know this is the protocol
[16:46] <hggdh> you can still change the tag
[16:47] <hggdh> and I can guarantee you this will be revisited, anyway
[16:48] <hggdh> please keep in mind that verification-(done|failed) is a tag. Anyone can edit the tag; the protocol requires the first to test to tag the bug done|failed
[17:55] <penguin42> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance has  a curious inconsistency; a network card is listed as a non-essential component and would get  a Medium if it failed; but a laptops built in wireless is listed as an essential hardware component and would get a High
[18:04] <hggdh> penguin42: arguable, but a wireless can be seen as a critical part of a laptop
[18:04] <hggdh> and so could a wired for a desktop...
[18:04] <hggdh> hum
[18:05] <Ampelbein> Yes, I would vote for a High importance for both components.
[18:09] <mainerror> _nods_
[18:09] <mainerror> Damn Markdown ... go used to it.
[19:03] <ashams> hggdh, ping
[19:47] <htorque> hi everyone! should bug 894473 bet set to incomplete? or invalid maybe?
[19:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 894473 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "when connecting to a wireless network, gksu asks for password root , but root has no password (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894473
[19:55] <penguin42> htorque: You could set it to incomplete to see if Robert has the same issue
[19:55] <penguin42> htorque: The question is has it been fixed or does it only happen sometimes
[19:56] <htorque> it happened four times in a row with the A1 iso and no time when installing todays iso twice :)
[19:56] <penguin42> ok, so it's probably a fix released with a 'we don't know when, but it seems to have gone' - might want to make it incomplete though and see what Robert has to say
[19:57] <htorque> done, thanks again ;)
[20:49] <hggdh> ashams: pong
[21:07] <ashams> hggdh, can we make mentorship for locos
[21:08] <ashams> I think many locos have many members would like some1 to start them off
[21:09] <ashams> I mean, mentors go for a loco upon request to mentor interested loco members for triage....
[21:10] <ashams> hggdh, you think this will work this time?
[21:12] <ashams> gtg, sorry, will talk about i later
[21:12] <ashams> it*