[01:20] hallelujah, holy shit! I finally got it figured out and working... my god what a complex package, but I think I really understand what is going on now... it builds half a dozen packages with various interdependencies and two different sets of abi versions... damn! it's milla time! [02:07] is there policy for creating Unity quicklinks ? [02:08] for the .deb packaging [02:21] there's no way to make a package a dependency only if a third package is also installed is there? [07:00] paissad: #ayatana or #ubuntu-desktop [08:29] tumbleweed, ok === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:04] hi! I am trying to save off config files for an upgrade [14:05] in postrm upgrade I copy the config files to a temp folder [14:05] and in postint configure I am trying to overwrite the files from the newly installed .deb package [14:06] but .dkpg-temp files are being created [14:06] and those are finally used by the installer in some way [14:18] pcpratts: What do you want to do? dpkg by default prompts the user to overwrite/keep/examine changed configfiles. [14:27] well, my conf files are not marked it seems [14:27] Ampelbein: do you know how to tell dpkg what my config files are? [14:28] pcpratts: see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-conffiles.html [14:29] okay, thanks! [16:52] I'm attempting to mirror the Ubuntu archive with ubumirror; is there a way to exclude certain releases from the mirroring? [16:53] never used ubumirror... [16:53] (as in, I tried to exclude maverick, natty, and precise; it didn't work and I ran out of disk space <_<; [16:54] tumbleweed: well, I need to do a two-stage sync, right? [16:54] jpds: ping ^^ [16:54] lfaraone: right, that looks like an ftpsync type thing [16:54] you can't exclude releases, because it doesn't parse the Packages files [16:55] tumbleweed: should I use apt-mirror in the interim until I get a less sucky disk? [16:55] yeah, or debmirror [18:57] hyperair: Hi! Regarding bugs like 885505, it might be useful to include a short message with the status change to "Fix Released". Like "Fixed in the latest ubuntu version 0.21-1". That way, people know what happened. [19:05] right, good idea. [19:05] Ampelbein: thanks. i actually meant to close the bug in debian/changelog, but failed miserably when i missed out the # [19:06] I thought so. I was a bit confused by the status change myself but checked the upload log to find out. [19:06] heh [19:07] sorry, i get a bit slipshod when changing a large number of bugs to fix released [19:07] No worries ;-) [19:07] i should probably make better use of the email interface for those [21:48] ScottK, Laney, broder: do people use prevu? (Why is it still in the archive?) (re http://lists.debian.org/4EE4D536.7060909@grendelman.net ) [21:48] i've never heard of people using it [21:49] * tumbleweed is following up to that thread [21:51] but i know its intent was to be easier to use/setup than sbuild/pbuilder. i don't know if it actually is [21:52] or if that's still relevant in the era of ppas [21:59] * ajmitch thought it was just a wrapper around pbuilder [21:59] but I haven't really used it [21:59] question is, is it a useful one. I see very few uploads and few bug reports [22:00] yeah, the code is tiny [22:00] it did what backportpackage is meant for [22:02] i tihnk it can be replaced by backportpackage + pbuilder-dist with little documentation and not a whole lot of difficulty [23:01] i have a bzr branch (ubuntustudio-default-settings) that i want to completely replace with another bzr branch (xubuntu-default-settings with modifications i will make) [23:02] is the command i use to remove my current branch from bzr: 'bzr remove-tree' [23:02] ? [23:02] no remove-tree removes your working directory [23:03] just rm -r [23:03] (if I'm understanding your question correctly) [23:03] tumbleweed, i'm not sure i am asking clearly [23:04] you have a local branch that you don't want any more? [23:04] ScottL: you basically want to purge your ubuntusudio-default-settings branch, and have xubuntu-default-settings take its place? [23:04] remotely/ [23:04] * [23:04] EvilResistance, aye [23:04] tumbleweed: read my interp. [23:04] sorry, was helping wife with cooking dinner [23:04] ScottL: remotely, or locally? [23:04] (remotely such as on LP) [23:04] (and locally meaning at your machine) [23:06] sorry, helping with dinner again [23:06] okay [23:06] the bzr branch is hosted in launchpad [23:06] i was checking out a version that i wanted to replace [23:06] so it would be locally [23:06] and then i would push back to lp [23:07] EvilResistance, ^^^ [23:07] if you are replacing it remotely, it really doesn't matter what you are doing locally [23:07] you can push anything over anything else with push --overwrite [23:07] (use with care, of course) [23:10] tumbleweed, so i could not even use 'bzr branch' for the ubuntustudio-default-settings package? [23:11] yes [23:11] just 'apt-get source xubuntu-default-settings' ? [23:11] bzr add [23:11] commit and then push [23:11] ? [23:11] push meaning pushing to ubuntustudio-default-settings with --overwrite [23:11] assuming you want to remove the entire history for the branch [23:12] oh, not sure i want to do that actually [23:12] i would feel more comfortable if i had something to fall back to [23:12] so by "completly replace" you just mean "commit a new revision"? [23:13] * tumbleweed thinks he understands the question now [23:13] branch the existing branch, delete every file in it (but leave .bzr), add the stuff you want to replace it with, bzr add, commit [23:14] yes, i would like to "commit a new revision" which would not include any of the old code, yes [23:14] can i use 'bzr add' to add everything? [23:14] or does it require a qualifier? [23:15] no qualifier required [23:15] very cool, thanks tumbleweed [23:16] it was more or less like i thought it would be, but it makes me feel very, very much more comfortable to have it confirmed :) [23:16] np [23:17] although i thought that i would need to 'bzr remove' at least _something_ :? [23:18] bzr assumes that files you've deleted should be deleted [23:28] even better, wasn't sure about that [23:28] thanks again tumbleweed and EvilResistance [23:33] what's the environment variable you set to get debian/rules to use make -j? [23:33] DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS. But the debian/rules needs to support it [23:34] (dh has a --parallel option) [23:34] what do you set it to? [23:35] just DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=-j4 debian/rules binary? [23:35] no [23:35] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html [23:36] ahh [23:36] pfft... silly kernel rules file told me to make mrproper before building... which then deleted the debian directory