| geser | are there any problems with logging in to LP? I get either an timeout or internal server error | 07:44 |
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| wgrant | geser: Yeha, we have some DB issues at the moment. | 07:49 |
| wgrant | geser: Trying to sort them out... | 07:49 |
| mrevell | Hi | 09:02 |
| danhg | Morning | 09:07 |
| jml | Does Launchpad not send emails on build success? | 09:15 |
| bigjools | no | 09:18 |
| bigjools | this has been raised many times | 09:18 |
| geser | jml: no, only on build/upload failures (and also no mail if the build is in dependency wait) | 09:18 |
| jml | ok, thanks. | 09:19 |
| Guest52098 | this ? | 09:22 |
| roundcube | Hello, I have some troubles with the translations system on lp.net. Is there anybody who can help me? | 10:46 |
| bigjools | jtv might be able to help if he's still around | 11:00 |
| jtv | roundcube: what's the problem? | 11:01 |
| jtv | Is this still the upload approvals? | 11:02 |
| roundcube | No, it's something else now :-( | 11:02 |
| roundcube | I imported files with language code sv_SE which were successfully assigned to "Swedish (Sweden)" and somebody started adding missing texts. | 11:02 |
| roundcube | Then suddenly the "Swedish (Sweden)" entry disappeared from the list of translations and instead "Swedish" showed up with 0 translated texts. | 11:03 |
| roundcube | See https://translations.launchpad.net/roundcubemail/trunk | 11:03 |
| roundcube | The imported and updated sv_SE translations are still there but just not listed in the survey. I can access them by altering the URL to https://translations.launchpad.net/roundcubemail/trunk/+lang/sv_SE | 11:03 |
| jtv | roundcube: sounds like maybe something changed in your browser settings. It tells Launchpad which languages you're interested in. | 11:04 |
| roundcube | Now, I'm not swedish but clicked "View all languages" | 11:05 |
| jtv | By the way, you almost certainly want “Swedish” (sv) and not “Swedish (Sweden)” (sv_SE). | 11:05 |
| roundcube | And it's not listed there. | 11:05 |
| jtv | Ah. That list wouldn't show sv_SE normally, since it's a language that shouldn't normally be used. | 11:05 |
| jtv | But people whose configuration says they are interested in sv_SE would still be able to see it. | 11:06 |
| roundcube | But it existed in the list of languages some days ago. | 11:06 |
| jtv | (By the way, this is _only_ a matter of what languages show up in that list; you can still see the sv_SE translations by accessing the sv ones and replacing the “sv” in the URL with “sv_SE”). | 11:06 |
| jtv | It was in the list of “all languages”? | 11:07 |
| roundcube | Yep, that's what I did but not all people are as creative to start manipulating the url. | 11:07 |
| jtv | No, and we don't want them to. :) | 11:07 |
| roundcube | Yes, it was listed there as far as I can remember. | 11:07 |
| roundcube | So how can I move the translated texts from sv_SE to sv then? | 11:07 |
| jtv | One way is to export them from sv_SE and import them to sv. | 11:07 |
| jtv | It may also be possible to select sv_SE as a guide when translating to sv, but I'm not sure and it's probably more work at any rate. | 11:08 |
| roundcube | OK. And can I also remove the existing sv_SE translations afterwards. Not that people work on the wrong language. | 11:08 |
| jtv | That's a bit painful. :( | 11:09 |
| jtv | It can be done if really needed, but it takes time and involves multiple people. | 11:10 |
| roundcube | OK, let me try to download sv_SE and re-import it to sv first. | 11:11 |
| roundcube | One more thing: | 11:11 |
| roundcube | The untranslated status count doesn't update after somebody added some missing texts. | 11:12 |
| roundcube | I saw several tickets on answers.launchpad.net and they all say it's fixed. | 11:12 |
| jtv | roundcube: check that those questions are recent though. I'm not sure whether the statistics updater has been overhauled yet. | 11:21 |
| wgrant | jtv, roundcube: Statistics updates are working for distribution templates at the moment, but not project ones. | 11:22 |
| wgrant | The fix for those landed yesterday. | 11:22 |
| wgrant | It's blocked behind QA now, but will hopefully be deployed in the next dayish. | 11:22 |
| roundcube | wgrant, Great news! | 11:23 |
| jtv | What fix was deployed exactly? | 11:23 |
| wgrant | jtv: pofilestatsjobs are written, deployed and working for distribution templates. | 11:24 |
| jtv | What do they update exactly? <template, language>? | 11:24 |
| jtv | With optional language? | 11:24 |
| wgrant | They update a POFile. | 11:25 |
| wgrant | Which is <template, language>, I guess. | 11:25 |
| wgrant | (right?) | 11:25 |
| jtv | I know that they update a POFile, but what exactly does one of these jobs cover? | 11:25 |
| jtv | And when are they generated exactly? | 11:26 |
| wgrant | jtv: A whole POFile. | 11:26 |
| jtv | Only a POFile? | 11:26 |
| wgrant | The job just does 'self.pofile.updateStatistics()' | 11:26 |
| jtv | So… we generate a bunch of these for each single translation update? | 11:26 |
| jtv | Since changing 1 string can affect multiple POFiles… | 11:26 |
| wgrant | Not sure. | 11:27 |
| * wgrant checks the code. | 11:27 | |
| wgrant | Hmmmmmmmmm. | 11:27 |
| wgrant | That is suspicious. | 11:27 |
| wgrant | It just replaced the self.pofile.updateStatistics call in translationmessage's _redirectToNextPage with a job scheduling. | 11:28 |
| wgrant | Which seems irrelevant to the underlying problem. | 11:28 |
| wgrant | r14364, if you want to look | 11:28 |
| jtv | Not tonight, thanks. | 11:29 |
| jtv | Holiday. | 11:29 |
| jtv | The updateStatistics is only one part of the problem. | 11:29 |
| jtv | And unless POFile.updateStatistics has been modified to look up & update other POFiles that it may be sharing translations with, this is indeed irrelevant. | 11:30 |
| jtv | There are two underlying problems, really: | 11:30 |
| jtv | 1. That update took time that we didn't want to take out of the handling of the request. | 11:30 |
| jtv | This is a positively ancient documented problem. | 11:30 |
| jtv | 2. It wasn't enough now that, through message sharing, the update can affect multiple POFiles. | 11:31 |
| jtv | We have been relying on the pofile statistics updater to scrub pofile statistics that we hadn't gotten around to updating. | 11:32 |
| jtv | And unfortunately the pofile statistics updater has been suffering agonizing holdups — mostly from DBLoopTuner backoff, if memory serves. | 11:33 |
| jtv | If the page submission now fires off a job that updates the stats for just the POFile that's being edited, then we have achieved the worst of both worlds: | 11:34 |
| jtv | we'd no longer have instant updates, meaning that the user is presented with a view of statistics that does not include their latest changes, but also the sharing pofiles no longer get updated. | 11:34 |
| roundcube | Thanks guys for taking care of this. It's much apreciated! | 11:38 |
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| bac | hi sinzui | 14:38 |
| sinzui | Hi bac | 14:38 |
| bac | sinzui: i just looked on niobium and you have no vouchers...not surprisingly | 14:39 |
| bac | sinzui: iow, it is an isd issue | 14:39 |
| sinzui | They have not released the code fix to the last bug. I think humans need to update the data until the real fix is deployed | 14:40 |
| bac | sinzui: ugh | 14:40 |
| bac | abentley: does lp-submit require lp_review plugin to get the template? | 14:46 |
| abentley | bac: It requires the lpreview_body plugin | 14:47 |
| bac | abentley: thanks! | 14:48 |
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| bdmurray | Has anybody looked at https://launchpad.net/~osfs ? The team owner seems to be adding lots of people to the team without talking to anybody | 15:56 |
| jtv | bdmurray: and in alphabetical order too, looks like. | 15:58 |
| jtv | That has some worrying implications. | 15:58 |
| bdmurray | jtv: yes, more or less. and yes | 15:58 |
| jtv | Could you report this on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad ? | 15:59 |
| jtv | That way the next help contact will get around to it. | 15:59 |
| lifeless | bdmurray: note that sabdfl has been in the team since it was created - hard to tell if its spam, or just folk being added after a council meeting of some sort | 16:01 |
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| kirkland | lifeless: bdmurray: i just unsubscribed myself from ~osfs, looks like spam to me | 16:30 |
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| savvas | can someone stop/delete/cancel all to-be-built packages of a recipe? 4 currently pending build: https://code.launchpad.net/~ffmulticonverter/+recipe/ffmulticonverter-daily | 16:56 |
| savvas | I forgot to change the debian package version and want to try again, I guess no harm done there, but.. I don't want to stress the servers :) | 17:01 |
| savvas | ignore the request, I'll just wait :) | 17:14 |
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| audifahrer | Hi | 20:50 |
| audifahrer | Could someone explain me why my receipe isn't building: https://code.launchpad.net/~tux-style/+recipe/eetxx-daily . It claims about missing dependency libeflxx, but this is available in the same project: https://code.launchpad.net/~tux-style/+recipe/eflxx-daily . I don't understand this. | 20:52 |
| MeQuerSat | Filed a bug a while ago, which is a pretty damn big bug. No response so far. What to do? | 21:04 |
| tumbleweed | audifahrer: did you upload them at the same time? libeflxx-dev probably wasn't built yet | 21:08 |
| MeQuerSat | So what should I do? | 21:21 |
| flacoste | MeQuerSat: did it get a priority? | 21:21 |
| MeQuerSat | nope | 21:21 |
| flacoste | MeQuerSat: give me the bug number, and I'll give it one :-) | 21:22 |
| MeQuerSat | 887233 | 21:22 |
| flacoste | MeQuerSat: ah, that's not a Launchpad bug, that's a bug in Ubuntu | 21:23 |
| flacoste | i suggest asking on #ubuntu-qa | 21:23 |
| MeQuerSat | ok, will do that | 21:23 |
| MeQuerSat | thanks | 21:23 |
| MeQuerSat | uhm, I think you mean another channel? | 21:24 |
| MeQuerSat | #ubuntu-qa is empty | 21:24 |
| flacoste | MeQuerSat: sorry, the channel is actually #ubuntu-quality | 21:24 |
| MeQuerSat | ok, thanks | 21:24 |
| flacoste | audifahrer: the package depends on itself? | 21:25 |
| flacoste | audifahrer: sorry, i got the etxx and eflxx confused | 21:26 |
| flacoste | audifahrer: why does apt thinks libeflxx-dev is a virtual package? | 21:30 |
| flacoste | audifahrer: or is it debhelper > 7 that might be a problem in lucid? | 21:30 |
| flacoste | audifahrer: anyway, i suggest you get some packaging help in #ubuntu-motu | 21:32 |
| audifahrer | flacoste: ok, I'll try #ubuntu-motu | 21:36 |
| audifahrer | debhelper Version: 7.4.15ubuntu1 is in lucid | 21:37 |
| audifahrer | tumbleweed: If think it was yet build. But I requested a new build. | 21:38 |
| audifahrer | now | 21:38 |
| micahg | flacoste: what do you think about adding a note to /topic about packaging support in #ubuntu-packaging? | 21:51 |
| flacoste | micahg: it's a good one, it should probably be also on the PackagingGuide | 21:52 |
| flacoste | since i sent somebody to #ubuntu-motu based on it :-) | 21:52 |
| flacoste | audifahrer: #ubuntu-packaging might be even a better channel than #ubuntu-moty | 21:53 |
| micahg | heh, for distro packaging #ubuntu-motu is good, for non-distro packaging or packaging in general, we have #ubuntu-packaging | 21:53 |
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| micahg | flacoste: thanks | 21:53 |
| mrevell | danhg, matsubara-afk, huwshimi: Skype? | 22:00 |
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| matsubara | mrevell, I'm onlin | 22:00 |
| matsubara | online | 22:00 |
| mrevell | cool :) | 22:01 |
| mrevell | matsubara, I'll start the call | 22:04 |
| mrevell | Hello | 22:06 |
| mrevell | I am speaking | 22:06 |
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