[00:10] Help help! - My lubuntu(s) here are behaving strangely when I have them installed insige an encrypted LVM. [00:11] xorg log file says that there are no graphics driver modules available [00:12] installed without encryption or as a live system it starts the GUI. === robotman is now known as AlexAv [01:18] hi.. been noticing a strange bug where if a window that is touching the upper left and I maximize it, it doesn't maximize to fill the screen. However if I try to drag the window (even tho it's maximized), it will suddenly maximize the rest of the way [01:19] (11.10, sorry, I always forget to say that) === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away === bastlfreenode is now known as thebastl [14:17] hello gyus === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse [16:46] Hello, terve kaikille [16:56] Is there a way to get laptops (HP G62) brightness fixed. command "xbacklight -set 100" works. But I have to use it everytimes. So my problem is that the screen goes dark (maybe to 80%). And the strange part is that if the computer is not used for 10 minutes the bright goes to 100% [16:57] but when I touch to mouse it goes to 80% again :/ [17:11] Hey sp I am going to be giving a desktop with lubuntu on it to a few people and am wondering if you have any good help documentation on the install already or do I need to add that myself? [17:52] philipballew: Do you know how to get my laptop ( HP G62) brightness to work how it should. Now it screen is dark when I open the laptop and if I wait 10minutes it goes to 100%, but when I move mouse or keyboard, the keyboard goes back to darker. xbacklight command works so I can get brightness to 100% manually. [17:56] no, I do not have that laptop. but there are sever reasons why it might go and do thst [17:56] *that [17:58] what is the manager which handles these? [17:59] not sure. maybe your power manager or even grub [18:38] DOes anyone know of any Lubuntu pdf or off line tutorials. like Ubuntu has the help app. Does Lubuntu have anything? [19:20] <45PAAFD80> hello [19:21] <45PAAFD80> should Citrix work on Lubuntu? === 45PAAFD80 is now known as th^2 [19:22] http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX125285 [19:26] holstein, yes i have installed it [19:27] th^2: you mean, will it work on lubuntu as opposed to ubuntu? [19:32] holstein, well im running lubuntu so i came here to ask [19:32] th^2: cool... what are you asking? [19:33] if anything runs on ubuntu, it *should* run in lubuntu [19:34] yes i thought that myself [19:34] but cannot get citrix running on this machine [19:34] my ubuntu works just fine [19:36] th^2: theres maybe some little dependancy? [19:40] maybe [19:47] argh [19:47] any help? [19:48] holstein, what kind of a depency? [19:50] th^2: should say in the documentation [19:50] you can link error messages [19:50] its going to be challening since those packages are *not* ubuntu/canonical maintained [19:51] well its not giving me any errors. .deb installed just fine and citrix appeared to menu but it just doesnt launch [19:52] th^2: launch it from the terminal [19:52] hmm there seems to be no path :S [19:53] no path to? [19:53] theres a /dir missing? [19:53] maybe one didnt get auto created [19:53] you should be albe to mk it [19:53] cannot apropos it [19:53] yes but i cannot find absolute path [19:54] well, you dont need to [19:54] okay [19:54] sh /opt/Citrix/ICAClient/wfica.sh [19:54] Error: 4 (E_MISSING_ARG) [19:54] Please refer to the documentation. [19:55] yup... thats what i think... you'll need to check the documentation [19:55] th^2: is this lubuntu 11.10? was it ubuntu 11.10? [19:56] sometimes those companies are expecting the LTS [19:56] Lubuntu 11.10 yes [19:56] argh :D [22:06] he [22:14] hey all [22:14] sup [22:14] I installed lubuntu 3 wks ago and i loved it [22:14] today the wireless just "crapped out" [22:15] not sure how I could diag it [22:15] never had any experience with that before [22:15] laptop or desktop? [22:15] yeah, is there any "reinstall driver" type approach [22:15] laptop [22:15] I am a complete linux newb [22:15] if this happened on a windows machine I would reinstall the driver [22:16] so why don't you take it to a coffee shop (or go warwalking through the neighborhood) and see if you have a problem connecting with any other access points [22:16] if it does work, then it's a problem either with yoru access point or your isp [22:16] well I have another windows laptop next to it and I can connect to the net [22:16] if it doesn't work, then we can investigate further [22:16] so the access point is functional [22:16] k well there ya go [22:16] that works too [22:17] is your wireless enabled? [22:17] well the "blue light" that is the wireless switch is on [22:17] right click on the network manager icon and click on enable wireless [22:17] greyed out [22:17] oh noes [22:17] only VPN connections is an option [22:18] so could you tell me what version of network-manager you have? [22:19] hm, not sure how to tell.. [22:19] i have 0.9.1.90-0ubuntu5.1 [22:19] you could search for it in synaptic [22:20] any way to cmd line that? [22:20] or open a terminal and use "sudo apt-cache policy network-manager | grep -i installed" [22:20] mine is the same as yours [22:21] 5 instead of 5.1 [22:21] hmmmm [22:21] but its not checked [22:21] have you changed any settings on the access point? [22:21] does that mean it is not installed? [22:21] no [22:21] what do you mean it's not checked? in synaptic [22:21] ? [22:21] yes [22:21] hah that's strange [22:21] that generally means it's not installed [22:22] run that command line and see what you get [22:22] okay [22:22] says installed 0.9.1.90-ubuntu5 [22:23] k well u got it [22:23] hold a sec [22:23] yeah, it was working okay until today, i mean it was even working this morning [22:23] bizarro [22:24] anything to "reinstall" that could fix the problem? [22:25] if I were to go to a local store and buy one, any pref on which mini-pci works best with linux? [22:26] would I just swap and reboot? [22:26] or would there have to be other configurations [22:26] yeah that's a good point come to think of it [22:26] problem may not be lubuntu [22:26] problem may be your hardware [22:26] why don't you download the live iso and run it on the windows machine and see if it still works ok [22:27] do you have a link to the live iso? [22:27] not a torrent [22:27] you are on oneiric right? [22:28] x86 or 64? [22:28] wxl how could I check [22:28] lsb_release -a [22:28] i686 [22:29] oneiric 11.10 [22:29] http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso [22:30] hm [22:30] okay, so if I download that and it works...what then [22:30] another thought to check and see if your basic hardware is working is to use the command line [22:30] wxl [22:30] okay I'm all ears [22:30] i'd say reboot to recovery mode (hold shift while it boots to get to the menu) [22:30] mount the file systems [22:30] okay hold a sec [22:30] uh oh [22:30] hold a sec [22:31] then go to networking shell [22:31] ifconfig wlan0 [22:31] well there is a "recovery mode" [22:31] dhclient wlan0 [22:31] ping google.com [22:31] in grub [22:31] should work :D [22:31] yep go for it [22:31] okay hold a sec [22:32] my windows partition is borked [22:32] that sucks [22:32] ruh roh [22:32] well anyways that will give you some homework for a while ;) [22:32] okay I have resume normal boot [22:32] fsck for check file systems [22:32] don't do it [22:33] next should be mount file systems [22:33] go ahead and do that [22:33] remount / read/write and mount [22:33] not sure why you can't just get to the networking shell first but whatever [22:33] do the remount [22:33] clean, dpkg, grub, netroot [22:33] root [22:33] clean = free space, dpkg repair broken pkgs [22:33] then the net shell [22:34] root then net shell? [22:34] or netroot [22:34] there should be two options [22:34] one for a root shell, one for a root shell with networking [22:34] you want the latter [22:34] ok [22:34] done [22:34] now? [22:34] ifconfig wlan0 [22:34] ooops [22:34] ifconfig wlan0 up [22:35] error while getting interface flags, no such device [22:35] urgh [22:35] so it's kicked [22:35] maybe it's wlan1 [22:35] same err [22:35] hold [22:35] oaky === robotman is now known as AlexAv [22:36] try iwconfig [22:36] then iwlist scan [22:36] lo no wireless [22:36] eth0 no wireless === zkriesse is now known as zkriesse_away [22:37] curious [22:38] oh right [22:38] you might have restricted drivers which may not get loaded [22:39] I would get [22:39] I mean I would guess that is likely the case [22:39] I think it was an "atheros" wireless card [22:39] or some stupid crap like that [22:40] so what's next? [22:40] if I have to load a restricted driver taht is [22:41] try lspci -vvnn | grep -i wireless [22:43] wxl [22:43] ? [22:43] you still here? [22:43] ethernet controller 0200 atheros communications inc ar242x / ar542x Wireless network adater (PCI-Express) [168:001c] (rev 01) [22:43] i don't ever leave :D [22:43] k [22:44] heh. [22:45] so it looks like it "sees" something... [22:45] yep [22:45] good 1st step [22:46] try modprobe ath5k [22:46] THEN iwconfig [22:47] okay that seems to bring it up [22:47] haha [22:47] yes [22:47] not sure if you have to set up a dhclient [22:47] can you ping google or something? [22:47] so now how do I "fix" that in the "normal" boot [22:47] well I probably have to "scan" then "connect" somehow [22:47] yeah right [22:47] iwlist scan [22:48] wlan0 interface doesn't support scanning: network is down [22:48] so iwconfig wlan0 up? [22:48] try ifconfig wlan0 up [22:48] wlan0 link is not ready [22:49] hm [22:49] oops tried again, operation not possible due to RF-kill [22:51] might need sudo === zkriesse_away is now known as zkriesse [22:51] but should be something like: [22:51] iwconfig wlan0 mode managed key [wep key] [22:52] urgh now did ifconfig wlan0 down [22:52] iwconfig wlan0 essid "[essid]" [22:52] dhclient wlan0 [22:52] sorry if i'm stumbling around; i've more experience with ethernet in the command line than wireless [22:52] if it is wpa2? [22:53] ahh [22:53] you need wpa-supplicant [22:53] urgh... [22:53] :) [22:53] might as well skip this method [22:53] wxl thanks btw for all this help [22:53] cuz that isn't going to come installed i don't think [22:53] so yeah, go try that iso on the other machine [22:53] wpa_supplicant is installed [22:53] here's info on wireless cards on the buntus https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported [22:55] i have like 0 experience with wpa_supplicant [22:55] wxl here's a questino [22:55] if wlan0 comes up in the list [22:55] after modprobe ath5k + iwconfig [22:55] does that mean the wireless card is working? [22:55] perhaps [22:56] doesn't mean EVERYTHING's working [22:56] if I pop another wireless card in there then will lspci pick it up? [22:57] yep [22:57] or lsusb if it's usb and not pci [22:58] okay let me call my local shop and see if they have any used bg mini pci's in stock [22:59] i'd go checking that other laptop before you go there [22:59] but that's just me [22:59] i could see two things you could do: [22:59] why check the other laptop? [22:59] 1. test some other OS on the lubuntu machine (might not be easy) [22:59] 2. test lubuntu on the other laptop [23:00] if #2 works, then you know that the problem is not lubuntu.. it must be your hardware [23:00] if #2 does not work, then it is likely that the problem is lubuntu [23:00] if #1 works, then it must be lubuntu [23:00] if #1 does not work then it must be the hardware [23:00] two ways at getting at the same thing [23:02] if the problem was lubuntu, why would it suddenly "crash". [23:02] that's a darn good question [23:02] i wouldn't expect such behavior unless something was changed [23:02] either with the drivers, the networking software, or the properties of the access point [23:03] needless to say i'm a bit skeptical of it being the software [23:03] so if nothing changed with those features then doesn't that kind of point to the mini wireless? [23:03] even on windows drivers just don't magically get corrupted [23:03] sure does, i'd just want to confirm things, that's all [23:03] again, my own personal opinion [23:08] ok. well mini pci's are cheap. [23:08] just stick to that list? [23:09] wxl not too much support for mini pci though. [23:11] ugh how do I reboot out of command line [23:12] nm, I think I figured it out