[02:01] <FernandoMiguel> nite
[06:09] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/903048
[06:09] <iceroot> should be happening for all users i guess
[10:35] <Ian_Corne> !info irssi
[11:46] <aquarius> I've just tried to upgrade and libnspr is broken, it seems. chrisccoulson, is that one of yours? :)
[12:09] <Chipaca> hi all
[12:10] <Chipaca> the pointer has stopped moving in X, almost immediately after login. Still works in console. Anything known, or should I report?
[12:44] <Chipaca> yep, restarted X, got the pointer back for about a minute, and then it's gone again
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[17:23] <roothorick> yesterday I did an update, included a new kernel... today, my system is pretty hosed
[17:24] <roothorick> I don't even know where to begin in terms of reporting bugs... X doesn't start, some kind of race condition related to the nvidia module? lightdm segfaulted, no idea when it actually ran though since X didn't start on its own... I started a session with startx, and didn't have unity there, though maybe that's expected
[17:31] <BluesKaj> roothorick, did you do a dist-upgrade ? you might want to bring the rest of the dependencies/libs in with that command
[17:34] <BluesKaj> the same thing happened to me after the new kernel installed , it borked X , dist-upgrade finished the kernel install , or so it seems
[17:34] <roothorick> no
[17:34] <roothorick> just a regular apt-get update / upgrade
[17:35] <smoser> anyone know how i can get ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 installed ?
[17:37] <roothorick> trying another apt-get upgrade just for the hell of it
[17:39] <BluesKaj> roothorick, nope , you have to do a dist-upgrade ..it only ugrades existing packages and depends , it no longer does distro upgrade like before
[17:40] <BluesKaj> smoser, a 32bit system , idf so those should be installed by default
[17:41] <roothorick> BluesKaj: I don't have any such program in my path
[17:43] <BluesKaj> roothorick, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:48] <BluesKaj> too late , one can lead a horse to water .....
[17:49] <patdk-wk> and then drown him
[17:51] <BluesKaj> patdk-wk, dist-upgrade wan't in his path... strange
[17:55] <BluesKaj> i expected it was someone whose first language wasn't english , but he's in the US
[17:57] <patdk-wk> or atleast his proxy
[17:57] <patdk-wk> but then, the US is hardly english anymore
[17:59] <BluesKaj> no his IP wouldn't have worked with a proxy
[18:00] <BluesKaj> i can see you have a hidden IP patdk-wk , are you using a proxy?
[18:01] <patdk-wk> I have a hidden ip?
[18:02] <patdk-wk> my ip defently isn't hidden
[18:02] <BluesKaj> it doesn't show on a whois
[18:03] <patdk-wk> does for me
[18:03] <BluesKaj> i can usually resolve IPs with traceroute , but yours doesn't from here
[18:03] <patdk-wk> what does it show you?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> 2001:470:e0ba:15:224:e8ff:fe49:3b5a
[18:04] <patdk-wk> that is my ip
[18:04] <BluesKaj> uhm, encrytion ?
[18:04]  * patdk-wk sends blueskaj back to school to learn how to use the internet
[18:05] <patdk-wk> it's not encrypted, masked, hidden, or anything
[18:05] <patdk-wk> that is my ip, in the raw
[18:05] <BluesKaj> patdk-wk, this is an IP , 197.174.243.163
[18:06] <patdk-wk> yes, both are ip's
[18:06] <BluesKaj> so how does it translate to numbers then
[18:06] <patdk-wk> hmm? it is numbers
[18:06] <patdk-wk> dunno what you mean, you don't *translate it*
[18:06]  * patdk-wk throws rfc2460 at blueskaj
[18:07] <patdk-wk> have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> no need to insult me patdk-wk ... sharing some knowledge would be better
[18:09] <genii-around> BluesKaj: It's an IP Version 6 number
[18:13] <BluesKaj> yeah, genii-around , thanks , I see that now ...not many are using ipv6 , but i suppose I need a better trace app that can resolve it
[18:20] <patdk-wk> traceroute6?
[18:20] <patdk-wk> most of the people I deal with have enabled ipv6
[18:21] <patdk-wk> I finally got my own PI ipv6 block, need to move over to it
[18:24] <BluesKaj> nope , traceroute6 doesn't cut it either
[18:24] <alex_mayorga> patdk-wk: you're living in the future :P
[21:05] <Chipaca> hey all
[21:05] <Chipaca> what package has the "sound settings" capplet in it?
[21:06] <bjsnider> indicator-sound
[21:07] <bjsnider> if i understand what you mean
[21:08] <Chipaca> just filed it on gnome-control-center
[21:08] <Chipaca> hmm
[21:08] <Chipaca> but the problem is probably in the plumbing
[21:08] <Chipaca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/903400
[21:10] <bjsnider> could be pulseaudio or alsa-lib
[21:12] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, , any experience with getting hdmi audio working on alsa / pulse ?
[21:12] <bjsnider> no
[21:13] <bjsnider> go to #ubuntu-desktop, talk to TheMuso
[21:13] <bjsnider> he's the main audio dev in ubuntu, luke yelavich
[21:13] <BluesKaj> same here , since I use a coax out
[21:14] <bjsnider> if he doesn't know, he knows someone who knows
[21:14] <BluesKaj> hdmi is taking over , even on onboards
[21:14] <BluesKaj> ok thanks
[21:14] <Pici> I remember having to fight with it a bit to get it to work on my ati card on my htpc.
[21:15] <Pici> And even then the linux driver doesn't support more than stereo sound :(
[21:17] <bjsnider> i think the "ati" in that sentence might be the underlying issue
[21:17] <Pici> Very likely ;)
[21:18] <bjsnider> i was in the mplayer2 channel this afternoon for a chat, and you should see the nvidia-partisanship there. bottomless contempt for anything non-nvidia
[21:19] <bjsnider> in terms of graphics
[21:25] <BluesKaj> Pici, it should be quite straightforward m enabling bthe spdif out and pcm should send the signal to all digital outs , but it doesn't seem to be the case
[21:26] <FernandoMiguel> no problem with hdmi here
[21:26] <FernandoMiguel> except I can only send sound to ONE set of speakers
[21:26] <FernandoMiguel> while on windows I could pick per app
[21:28] <bjsnider> i think pulse is supposed to support that
[21:30] <FernandoMiguel> bjsnider: it does... for ONE sound output
[21:30] <FernandoMiguel> sound indicator changes the entire system and all users to only ONE output
[21:30] <FernandoMiguel> it's pretty limited
[21:30] <BluesKaj> FernandoMiguel, hdmi with no configuring , right "out of the box" ?
[21:31] <FernandoMiguel> BluesKaj: yep. I plug the cable, turn tv on, change to the cable out put, and sound is there, screens resize to include the TV
[21:31] <FernandoMiguel> plug it off, and I have all on my system again
[21:32] <alex_mayorga> slightly relevant perhaps, bug 865782
[21:32] <FernandoMiguel> IF I just turn the secondary display off, but leave everything as it was, sound will be sent to the TV even if its not more listening to it.... that's a bug
[21:32] <FernandoMiguel> BluesKaj: Intel HD3000 here
[21:33] <bjsnider> sandybridge
[21:34] <alex_mayorga> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/865782/comments/2 more precisely for the lack of HDMI audio
[21:34] <alex_mayorga> reminder to self: update that bugger soon before it expires :(
[21:35] <BluesKaj> FernandoMiguel, bjsnider , the problems are hdmi-audio related , in all cases I've seen so far the video works well
[21:36] <FernandoMiguel> well, since dchen isn't here anymore, let me nag themuso to see if I can get two way sound system
[21:38] <BluesKaj> even if I had hdmi I'd still have to use coax since my receiver DAC only accepts coax and toslink signals