=== longs|eep is now known as longsleep [02:01] nite [06:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/903048 [06:09] Ubuntu bug 903048 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "[12.04] sysvinit-utils conflicts bash-completion (/etc/bash_completion.d/service)" [Undecided,New] [06:09] should be happening for all users i guess === GNexTroll is now known as STiK === Guest35752 is now known as gord [10:35] !info irssi [10:35] irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.15-4ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 911 kB, installed size 3104 kB [11:46] I've just tried to upgrade and libnspr is broken, it seems. chrisccoulson, is that one of yours? :) [12:09] hi all [12:10] the pointer has stopped moving in X, almost immediately after login. Still works in console. Anything known, or should I report? [12:44] yep, restarted X, got the pointer back for about a minute, and then it's gone again [12:57] Hey folks === jamestunnicliff_ is now known as jamestunnicliffe === yofel_ is now known as yofel === brendand_ is now known as brendand [17:23] yesterday I did an update, included a new kernel... today, my system is pretty hosed [17:24] I don't even know where to begin in terms of reporting bugs... X doesn't start, some kind of race condition related to the nvidia module? lightdm segfaulted, no idea when it actually ran though since X didn't start on its own... I started a session with startx, and didn't have unity there, though maybe that's expected [17:31] roothorick, did you do a dist-upgrade ? you might want to bring the rest of the dependencies/libs in with that command [17:34] the same thing happened to me after the new kernel installed , it borked X , dist-upgrade finished the kernel install , or so it seems [17:34] no [17:34] just a regular apt-get update / upgrade [17:35] anyone know how i can get ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 installed ? [17:37] trying another apt-get upgrade just for the hell of it [17:39] roothorick, nope , you have to do a dist-upgrade ..it only ugrades existing packages and depends , it no longer does distro upgrade like before [17:40] smoser, a 32bit system , idf so those should be installed by default [17:41] BluesKaj: I don't have any such program in my path [17:43] roothorick, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [17:48] too late , one can lead a horse to water ..... [17:49] and then drown him [17:51] patdk-wk, dist-upgrade wan't in his path... strange [17:55] i expected it was someone whose first language wasn't english , but he's in the US [17:57] or atleast his proxy [17:57] but then, the US is hardly english anymore [17:59] no his IP wouldn't have worked with a proxy [18:00] i can see you have a hidden IP patdk-wk , are you using a proxy? [18:01] I have a hidden ip? [18:02] my ip defently isn't hidden [18:02] it doesn't show on a whois [18:03] does for me [18:03] i can usually resolve IPs with traceroute , but yours doesn't from here [18:03] what does it show you? [18:04] 2001:470:e0ba:15:224:e8ff:fe49:3b5a [18:04] that is my ip [18:04] uhm, encrytion ? [18:04] * patdk-wk sends blueskaj back to school to learn how to use the internet [18:05] it's not encrypted, masked, hidden, or anything [18:05] that is my ip, in the raw [18:05] patdk-wk, this is an IP , 197.174.243.163 [18:06] yes, both are ip's [18:06] so how does it translate to numbers then [18:06] hmm? it is numbers [18:06] dunno what you mean, you don't *translate it* [18:06] * patdk-wk throws rfc2460 at blueskaj [18:07] have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years? [18:08] no need to insult me patdk-wk ... sharing some knowledge would be better [18:09] BluesKaj: It's an IP Version 6 number [18:13] yeah, genii-around , thanks , I see that now ...not many are using ipv6 , but i suppose I need a better trace app that can resolve it [18:20] traceroute6? [18:20] most of the people I deal with have enabled ipv6 [18:21] I finally got my own PI ipv6 block, need to move over to it [18:24] nope , traceroute6 doesn't cut it either [18:24] patdk-wk: you're living in the future :P === max is now known as Visionaire === max is now known as Visionaire === max is now known as Visionaire === Guest96276 is now known as Aranel [21:05] hey all [21:05] what package has the "sound settings" capplet in it? [21:06] indicator-sound [21:07] if i understand what you mean [21:08] just filed it on gnome-control-center [21:08] hmm [21:08] but the problem is probably in the plumbing [21:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/903400 [21:08] Ubuntu bug 903400 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "loses track of the sound card" [Undecided,New] [21:10] could be pulseaudio or alsa-lib [21:12] bjsnider, , any experience with getting hdmi audio working on alsa / pulse ? [21:12] no [21:13] go to #ubuntu-desktop, talk to TheMuso [21:13] he's the main audio dev in ubuntu, luke yelavich [21:13] same here , since I use a coax out [21:14] if he doesn't know, he knows someone who knows [21:14] hdmi is taking over , even on onboards [21:14] ok thanks [21:14] I remember having to fight with it a bit to get it to work on my ati card on my htpc. [21:15] And even then the linux driver doesn't support more than stereo sound :( [21:17] i think the "ati" in that sentence might be the underlying issue [21:17] Very likely ;) [21:18] i was in the mplayer2 channel this afternoon for a chat, and you should see the nvidia-partisanship there. bottomless contempt for anything non-nvidia [21:19] in terms of graphics [21:25] Pici, it should be quite straightforward m enabling bthe spdif out and pcm should send the signal to all digital outs , but it doesn't seem to be the case [21:26] no problem with hdmi here [21:26] except I can only send sound to ONE set of speakers [21:26] while on windows I could pick per app [21:28] i think pulse is supposed to support that [21:30] bjsnider: it does... for ONE sound output [21:30] sound indicator changes the entire system and all users to only ONE output [21:30] it's pretty limited [21:30] FernandoMiguel, hdmi with no configuring , right "out of the box" ? [21:31] BluesKaj: yep. I plug the cable, turn tv on, change to the cable out put, and sound is there, screens resize to include the TV [21:31] plug it off, and I have all on my system again [21:32] slightly relevant perhaps, bug 865782 [21:32] Launchpad bug 865782 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "Fails to provide video output to TV connected with HDMI cable" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865782 [21:32] IF I just turn the secondary display off, but leave everything as it was, sound will be sent to the TV even if its not more listening to it.... that's a bug [21:32] BluesKaj: Intel HD3000 here [21:33] sandybridge [21:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/865782/comments/2 more precisely for the lack of HDMI audio [21:34] Ubuntu bug 865782 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "Fails to provide video output to TV connected with HDMI cable" [Undecided,Incomplete] [21:34] reminder to self: update that bugger soon before it expires :( [21:35] FernandoMiguel, bjsnider , the problems are hdmi-audio related , in all cases I've seen so far the video works well [21:36] well, since dchen isn't here anymore, let me nag themuso to see if I can get two way sound system [21:38] even if I had hdmi I'd still have to use coax since my receiver DAC only accepts coax and toslink signals === maxb_ is now known as maxb