[00:08] Why doesn't Ubuntu have Dolby Headphone support? I want to emulate 7.1 on my headphones on Linux, like I do on Windoze. [00:47] hey guys \o [01:11] anyone around to help me with my sound issues? [01:11] would be much appreciated if someone could advise me as to what I'm doing wrong [03:35] HazRPG: wutcha up to? [04:18] hii [04:18] someone can help me [04:19] ? [04:19] what is the difference between rw,fsid=0,insecure,no_subtree_check,asyn AND rw,no_root_squash,async [04:19] hmm not seen those parameters before [04:19] looked them up in "man mount" ? [04:20] i put them in /etc/export [04:20] this is the /etc/export http://pastebin.com/r2vxxbzN [04:20] this is the error http://pastebin.com/pgvrGWLe [04:20] oh right NFS [04:21] not used that before, might want to try #ubuntu for someone that might be awake :> [04:22] I try in #NFS but thay tell me "you need to do some more homework" [04:23] lol [04:24] nice people [04:24] he he.. [04:25] sorry i can't be of any help, gotta head to bed now [04:26] now you understand why Hans Reiser in jail.. [08:13] morning all [08:16] Morning :-) [08:18] * Myrtti prods popey [08:26] Morning all [08:45] morning all [08:46] hello all === Guest35752 is now known as gord [09:13] morning! Last Monday at work for over a month :D [09:16] danfish: lucky bugger! [09:18] * danfish has an intense loathing of Mondays [09:18] haters gonna hate [09:19] danfish: +1 then again i was working the weekend so not had a nice day in 3 [09:19] http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/haters-gonna-hate-7.jpg?w=500&h=375 [09:44] Morning all [09:44] Hola popey [09:45] popey: Morning [09:45] * popey waves to jpds [09:46] This reminds me of a UDS. [09:46] Good morning beauties [09:46] :D === georgios is now known as GiorgioShooter === ross is now known as Guest47021 [10:08] anyone here working towards a technical degree? [10:08] or has one ? === Guest47021 is now known as ghostwiz [10:16] aloha [10:17] morning czajkowski [10:18] ghostwiz_: what do u mean by techniacl degree? [10:25] like EE, CS [10:25] i have maths+CS [10:25] something to do with technology or engineering [10:25] Well to employer decided to employen [10:25] oops [10:26] Do employers decided if to employ you based on your grade [10:26] for example, someone who has a 61% 2.1 vs someone with a 75% 2.1 [10:26] ghostwiz_: some do, or at least ask for your award. [10:26] they're both 2.1 [10:26] Intel IBM Google all ask [10:26] experiences may differ wildly, but i've been involved in recruitment process for quite a few years and usually filter the 2:1 and above *from good unis* first [10:27] no they usually ask what award type [10:27] a 2:2 from a good uni may be better than a 2:1 or 1st from a crummy one [10:27] Right I see [10:27] no one cares about %age , just what the degree certificate says [10:27] 75% is a 1st [10:27] ghostwiz_, and nobody knows what actual score you got; you get a 2.1 or a first or whatever. I don't even know myself what scores I got. [10:28] oh right I see [10:28] 75% isn't a forst at my uni [10:28] haha [10:28] whut? [10:28] which uni? [10:28] UWE [10:28] i was top of my year with 75% [10:29] it's not mine either as we go by QCA/GPA so to get a 1:1 you need A!'s from 2nd year onwards till the final exam [10:31] 40% of my 2nd year went to the degree grade, which sucks a bit when you get to the summer of the final year and getting burned out :( [10:31] y first year doesn't count :( [10:31] then i got a job and never took a break..year out would've been nice :) [10:32] first year is for work, party and sleep. 2nd year you can only choose 2. [10:32] Buenos días a todos! [10:33] I hope I can get a job in the future [10:34] the economy doesn't look good [10:34] I am willing to travel anywhere [10:50] morning slackers [10:50] morning [10:50] :D [10:51] I look forward to wearing slacks [10:53] because frankly seeing you in tights would just be disturbing [11:02] morning all [11:03] czajkowski: prod, prod, prod, prod, prod, hello [11:03] Hi davmor2 [11:03] morning bigcalm was that your better half with you at sans le noir? [11:04] dans [11:04] No, Hayley had to stay at home [11:04] The 2 ladies in the party were @therealpopey and @christel [11:05] bigcalm: ah twas christel then [11:05] Aye [11:08] bigcalm: Were there any photo's from inside the restaurant, I wasn't expecting any because of the darkness and assuming that flash photography would be banned [11:09] No, no sources of light are allowed [11:09] I thought that would be the situation [11:10] DJones: no you might notice that you have fish and chips from the chippy next door else [11:11] The glowing starter was a hoot [11:13] davmor2: I've only ever had one meal in "darkness", that was on my honeymoon, romantic meal for two (there's a surprise) on a beach in mexico at about 9pm, sun had gone down, quite dark, only candles for lighting, I nearly threw up when the onion rings I was eating turned out be calamari [11:13] does it glow when it leaves the other end too? [11:13] TMI [11:13] popey: are you changing g+ profiles? [11:15] bigcalm: that was radioactive sushi from the recent nuclear power plant fallout right? [11:16] * DJones wonders what naturally occuring food colouring glows in the dark [11:16] Bioluminescent scallops iirc. AlanBell will remember more [11:17] DJones: a lot of sea things have natural bioluminescence [11:17] bigcalm: I will when a migration tool appears [11:17] DJones: there is also bioluminescent oil from certain fish that you can cook food in and it keeps the glow [11:18] popey: Sounds sensible. g+ was confusing me by suggesting I add people I already have added [11:18] bigcalm: davmor2: The only fish I eat is battered cod, I've never been a fan of seafood [11:18] :D [11:19] Well, in the dark you don't know what's on your plate [11:19] DJones: +1 [11:19] DJones: ditto that and fish finger [11:19] Some people had shark. Wish I'd had it now [11:19] "fish" finger [11:19] hmm [11:19] davmor2: As long as they're cod fish fingers [11:20] DJones: we are talking food not scut [11:20] Heh [11:22] I'm happy to have fish fingers as I have solders with my boiled eggs. It's just a name :) [11:23] it's strange that people eat sea creatures willingly that bear a similarity to bush-tucker if they lived on land [11:24] Keep an open mind to all yummy things :) [11:25] I'd agree with that, since I got married, I now eat brocolli and enjoy it :) [11:25] Hahaha [11:25] radical [11:26] mmmmm fish [11:26] vegeatables aren't really yummy, though are they? [11:26] some are [11:26] sweet potatoes [11:26] parsnips [11:26] oimon: They are with beef gravy on [11:26] and beef on the fork [11:27] Cabbage [11:27] sprouts! [11:27] mmmmm sprouts with bacon [11:27] Yummy spouts [11:27] All veg are yummy if prepared correctly. [11:27] except celery [11:27] and served with meat [11:27] celery is the work of the devil [11:27] celery is nice with turkey and dips [11:27] Celery with a bit of salt is lovely# [11:27] i could eat roast parsnips on their own [11:27] popey: sprouts are yummy if moved directly from the plate to the bin without passing the mouth [11:27] bleh [11:28] haha [11:28] consensus! We've heard of it! [11:28] :) [11:28] i could eat a giant bowl of sprouts forever, they are wonderful [11:28] I loves me some roast parsnips [11:28] ewww farty pants [11:31] One thing I love now is macaroni cheese, my wife does a home made one which tases amazing, all I'd had before was tinned and always smelt as though somebody had already eaten it [11:32] macaroni cheese cannot be bought or re-heated, it can only be made fresh at home [11:32] IMHO [11:32] and I consider myself a connoisseur ;) [11:33] bigcalm: sprouts actually become edible if fried up in bacon [11:33] then throw away the sprouts and eat the bacon [11:33] AlanBell: ooo, wonder if I can recommend this for the 25th [11:33] \o/ [11:33] AlanBell beat me to it! [11:33] Just mix some spouts and snails together [11:34] Snails are ok, if a little chewy [11:34] Snails as a food item are just _wrong_ [11:34] * chrisjrob agrees with DJones [11:35] nothing is forbidden. everything is permitted [11:35] * chrisjrob bans things that create slime as foodstuffs [11:37] directhex: +1 [11:37] Eat everything _once_. [11:37] _everything_? [11:38] And don't eat it a 2nd time once its been regurgitated :) [11:38] eat everything *twice*. it's too new to form a useful opinion the first time [11:38] My daughter will try just about anything [11:38] my Son wont [11:38] he will probably change tho [11:41] Hayley doesn't like olives and yet she will try one every few years to see if her taste has changed. It never does yet she keeps checking [11:42] bigcalm: heh [11:42] i didn't like olives till i used extra virgin olive oil [11:43] She'll happily let me cook with olive oil though [11:51] * mattt is hitting the monday morning brick wall [11:52] popey: did you ever decide on a player for Sophie (/me hopes he got the name right) [11:52] yes [11:52] ipod shuffle [11:52] popey: fair enough :) [11:54] do shuffles have screens nowadays? [11:54] or they are designed for joggers [11:56] I take my joggler out jogging [11:56] Morning all [11:56] Hullo :) [11:57] How goes it? [11:57] Swimmingly [11:57] kool and the gang [11:58] hm [11:58] who's next on the list... [12:00] Myrtti: Ah just put me in the naughty column and continue :) [12:03] how's things? [12:08] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17521020/9-DWP-Social-Security-Benefits-Uprating.pdf might interest a few people, the proposed benefit rate changes, that were just published. [12:14] Just had a thought - would Unity benefit from a "summon window" method ; instead of switching to the workspace with a particular window, summon that window to the workspace you are looking at [12:15] That actually sounds like a kind of nifty feature for /any/ desktop with workspaces. [12:17] Personally, I think Compiz could use "move with window to specific workspace" bindings. It can do "move to specific workspace", and it can do "move one workspace up/down/left/right/next/prev with window", but it can't combine the two. [12:17] I'd like that because I tend to work on a 9x9 grid, with the workspaces mapped to ctl+alt+numpad. [12:20] adblock plus: “Allow non-intrusive advertising” option is enabled by default for all users but the ones using privacy filter lists [12:20] As of Adblock Plus 2.0b.3277 [12:21] Darael: 9x9? [12:21] o_O [12:21] gordonjcp: Um, I feel silly. 3x3 [12:21] I feel even sillier that I didn't catch it. [12:21] Darael: I thought that seemed a bit hardcore [12:22] Hey, seen what e16 was capable of? Something ridiculous like 2048 sets of 16x16 each, wasn't it? [12:22] Does anyone else have ultra slow usb transfer speeds in Ubuntu 11.10? [12:23] only when I'm using a USB1 hub [12:23] which shops sell miniatures (alcoholic)? [12:24] oimon: some "high end" off-licences, whisky shops [12:24] would supermarkets sell them individually? [12:24] they might do [12:25] John Lewis do [12:26] ok ta [12:26] maybe waitrose might then [12:26] yeah that's not a bad idea [13:03] asda do, I think [13:03] which I always found odd [13:03] tesco had some wines in relatively small bottles === BigRedS_1 is now known as BigRedS [13:38] Anyone here using nvidia binary drivers with oneiric? [13:40] yes [13:40] ^ Daviey [13:40] on my mbp [13:40] (which I hate) [13:40] popey: good stuff... Is nvidia biary still working with the latest kernel? [13:40] binary* [13:40] Linux mbp 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:28:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [13:41] is that latest? [13:41] yah [13:41] or the same version i have broken nvidia binary. [13:42] I switched from EFI to BIOS mode, so I get nVidia binary 'goodness' [13:43] frack. [13:43] So it's just me. [13:46] Daviey: Nvidia hates you hate it back work for me, oh that and I moved to ATI ;) [13:47] hah [13:48] DJones: it was quite painful for us, having to place laptops and mobiles in the lockers before going inside! [13:49] christel: so no photos then? [13:49] * mattt jokes [13:49] quite :P [13:49] well, they had infrared cameras [13:50] so they could spy on bigcalm attempting to feel up AlanBell [13:50] :o [13:50] (pervs, the lot of them) [13:50] christel: i've just spat out my food thank you very much :p [13:50] "they" being the restaurant [13:50] MooDoo: haha i am sorry! [13:50] :D [13:51] christel: damn right. Maybe I should apply to be freenode staff [13:51] bigcalm: nah thay suck.....pardon the pub [13:51] pun [13:51] oh christel didn't see you there ;) [13:51] * MooDoo waits for the kick/ban :D [13:52] harr harr [13:53] I can vouch for christel and say that she is an angel and a delight to spend time with [13:53] christel: why would blind people want to stare at a screen they can't see when they can just stand next to the table and listen in? [13:53] haha [13:53] bigcalm: are you drunk? [13:54] well, the chef and the bar staff and the maitre'd's can see [13:54] also, our waiter ran away [13:54] oh my, what is going on now! [13:54] MooDoo: not right now, not. I did have a skin full after the meal though :D [13:54] so me, doctormo and bigcalm were sat there shouting for him for like 10 mins [13:54] attempting to order more drinks [13:54] GAU!!!!!!!!!! [13:55] christel: now I understand why he ran away :P [13:55] haha [13:55] I was exceedingly pleased that the pub we went to afterwards served ale in proper mugs [13:55] haha [13:56] bigcalm: Calling yourself a proper mug is a bit harsh [13:56] Haha [13:56] badumtisch [13:56] davmor2 is my favourite. [13:56] "in" not "to" :P [13:56] christel: davmor2 ? are you nuts? [13:56] MooDoo: quite possibly! [13:56] :d [13:56] christel: I think you meant to say instantrimshot.com [13:56] quite! [13:57] AlanBell: when can we come say hello to your chicks? [13:57] cough splutter [13:58] MooDoo: you should know everyone thinks I'm "special" just ask czajkowski [13:58] davmor2: czajkowski doesn't count as she's also special :D [13:59] * davmor2 can't wait for czajkowski to check the channel and read that :D [14:01] christel: At least they let you put everything in a locker and wasn't like a coat room, ticket number 45 goes missing [14:02] true! [14:02] i had to entrust bigcalm with my locker key mind as i had no pockets [14:03] davmor2: special, spelt "g o r g e o u s" :) [14:03] * AlanBell checks the chick calendar [14:03] Hehe [14:03] christel: Could of been worse it might of been an Alan [14:03] christel: the alternative was amusing [14:05] thursday or friday look good [14:05] darn! the boy child does childminder on a thursday and friday, however, i may grab him early on friday as we have a christmas do thing [14:05] christel: You have shattered all my illusions I thought bras had pockets [14:06] davmor2: they were both full(!) [14:06] davmor2: my wife says they do, especially when she goes out, stores lollipops [14:06] MooDoo: I was thinking more of the notes that disappear when women have no pocket visible [14:07] davmor2: no idea about that one :d [15:01] !info backup [15:01] Package backup does not exist in natty [15:02] !backup [15:02] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [15:14] Hey all I am trying to add a tool tip to the column header of a column in a grid and cannot see how to do it, any suggestions? [15:15] We'll need a bit more context than that, HoaxKey - we have no idea what this grid is! [15:15] hahaha [15:15] i was just thinking the same [15:15] wrong chan i would guess [15:15] loooooooooool [15:15] failed to join extjs [15:15] cheers guys :D [15:15] :) [15:16] HoaxKey: that would do it [15:16] .u'i .ua *ahem* I mean, "heh, that explains that" [15:35] * davmor2 tickles MooDoo and czajkowski and runs away [15:37] czajkowski will get you.. you may run but you can't hide from her [15:37] davmor2: i'm bigger than you, pack it in [15:37] MooDoo: Nope :P [15:37] davmor2: oi christel get im ;) [15:38] i wonder how out-of-date my harvest chewee bars need to be before i stop eating them [15:38] over 3 months out of date already [15:38] christel: I'll stop when czajkowski is 100% then she might stand a chance of catching me :) [15:51] hehe [15:51] you won't have long to go! [15:52] davmor2: perhaps you can chase christel in the meantime? [15:53] i think he was running away, not chasing :o [15:53] christel: I'm pretty sure I safe as long as I can run faster :) [15:53] Afternoon guys. [15:54] ah! but she may secretly be an antelope! [15:54] MooDoo: why would I chase christel tickle maybe but not chase that's just wrong [15:54] davmor2: chase, rugby tackle to the floor, then tickle? [15:55] MooDoo: No that's just wrong, it'll end in tears and possibly yours for suggesting it [15:57] i can take the pain....just ask them in #likesalotofpainonfridays [15:59] MooDoo: so why do you keep complaining when you get the short end of the stick on Fridays E:TOOMUCHPAIN! [16:00] lol === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:04] tickles :( [16:05] christel: No don't tickle sad face he may become :) and then how do we do :('s then? [16:08] I opened a flapjack that had been in my car for 5 years recently. I didn't eat it. Smelled wrong. [16:08] My wife will throw food out the picosecond it goes "out of date" [16:09] awilkins: that is too late... [16:10] i do that :s [16:10] Tut [16:10] it drives gareth mad [16:10] We have this fantastic diagnostic chemical lab attached to our face, specifically tuned for detecting spoilt food, and no-one uses it [16:10] he'll cope [16:10] christel: good enough reason then ;) [16:10] haha [16:11] awilkins: I always sniff the milk (mostly out of habit). Even on the day of purchase [16:11] She threw out a bottle of worcestershire sauce once... I had specifically bought the largest bottle I could find, because it gets better with age [16:11] All that maturing time wasted :-( [16:12] Oh my :( [16:12] That's just wrong! [16:12] I'd had that sauce since uni [16:12] WS should have no date on it. Same way that wine doesn't [16:13] bigcalm: my gf looks at me strange when i open a new milk and give it a sniff [16:14] :) [16:14] Somebody from work bought some whisky the other week from waitrose, it'd been reduced to half price because it was near to its use by/sell by date..... Doesn't whisky mature the older it is [16:14] nothing beats sour milk first thing in the morning [16:14] Yes [16:14] In a cask, yes [16:14] DJones: not when its bottled [16:14] DJones: Alcohol only really matures in a cask. Once it's bottled, age makes little difference. [16:14] dogmatic69: you need help [16:14] The bottle life is basically infinite anyway [16:14] Well, long [16:15] We have whisky we bought on our honeymoon [16:15] My mum throws away mouldy bread [16:15] Even if there is just a little bit [16:15] So will I [16:15] only thing that will happen to spirits is the good parts (alcohol) evaporates [16:15] If there's one spot of blue mould on a loaf, the whole thing goes [16:15] I always buy the wine that's on the yellow label on the grounds that it's ready to drink now.. [16:15] jutnux: one tiny green spot and its in the bin [16:15] Thats hwat I'd have expected though with whisky, it doesn't exactly go off if its 6 months older than its date [16:15] I pick out a fair margin AROUND the green spot [16:16] The green patch is just the fruiting body, there are plenty of hyphae under the surface [16:16] There will be mould spoors in the rest of the bag. It has to go [16:16] Cheese is meant to be mouldy though :) [16:16] ITYM spores, bigcalm. Spoors are something altogether different. [16:16] i dont understand people that pay for and eat cheese that has gone off (blue cheese)... [16:17] Darael: it's possible but I don't care enough ;) [16:17] Spoor is poop (specifically poop you are using to track an animal) [16:17] Blue cheese is an acquired taste. I only acquire it after a few beers, a slap up dinner, and a large brandy. [16:18] On the occasion, was in a casino - casino restaurants are ace - really cheap because they want to reap your cash on the tables. [16:18] casinos are bad [16:18] i lose so much money whenever i go [16:18] Excellent salad, rump of lamp, dessert and a huge cheeseboard, £13 a head [16:19] I think I gambled the complimentary £5 chip they gave us with the package [16:19] I never used to like Soya milk, but I drank so much of it in the end I don't really notice. [16:19] lamb, not lamp [16:19] Stupid lactose intolerance, glad I can drink normal cows milk now though. [16:21] popey: ♥ [16:24] hmm? [16:25] * awilkins wonders if lactose intolerance is linked to geekiness ; had never considered it before watching Big Bang Theory [16:26] awilkins: Mine seemed to go away. [16:29] jutnux, People with secondary lactose intolerance can retrain their intestines to make lactase again [16:30] (some) [16:30] Oh. Sweet! It has left me with some other things though. [16:32] Hello. [16:33] hello s-fox how the devil are you? [16:33] Breathing. You? [16:33] s-fox: barely that [16:33] lo [16:34] s-fox: so what's up with ya? [16:35] MooDoo, It is december. lol [16:35] s-fox: not your cup of tea? [16:35] Everyone has to pretend to be happy. Its depressing. ;) [16:35] s-fox: so don't pretend ;) [16:36] s-fox: :p [16:37] bugrit [16:38] +1 gord [16:38] +1 gordonjcp [16:38] so I'm going down to London on Wednesday, but apparently $work has already organised a hotel [16:38] *and* the boss's son is coming with me, ostensibly to help with the driving [16:38] So much revision needing to be done :-( [16:39] gordonjcp: is this good or bad [16:39] czajkowski: well he drives like an idiot [16:40] and he's the most boring mindless arse it's ever been my profound misfortune to be stuck with [16:41] lovely [16:41] gordonjcp: you drive, you control stereo, you put on Future Sound of London? [16:41] gordonjcp: Pull out the HDSPA and talk to us ;) [16:41] the phone with HDSPA* [16:41] jutnux: well yeah [16:41] what is up with me :0* [16:41] :-( [16:41] mgdm: also part of the plan [16:42] actually I'm going to download a couple of eps of Book of the Week from Radio 4 [16:42] Can't stand boring people [16:42] oooh actually [16:42] I *can* get out to Farnham [16:42] 'cos I can get John to drive me [16:44] Anyone doing anything unusual for christmas this year? [16:45] Finding a bar and staying in it? :) [16:46] finding a new girlfriend and staying in... no, that's against channel guidelines [16:47] Haha. [16:47] All bars near me are closed (not that I could buy anything from them, alcohol wise). [16:52] haha [16:53] gordonjcp: yes! make him drive you to farnham [16:53] i'll make AlanBell do an extra happy hour, just for you! [16:53] o.O [16:53] (it'll be extra happy, see?) [16:53] o.O's bigcalm [16:54] ö [16:54] Eep [16:54] Dave2: yesyes. [16:58] Wednesday, hmm, working in Basingstoke, but should be back for pub o clock [17:02] \o/ [17:05] Bars? At Christmas? [17:05] * awilkins shudders [17:06] Although the last time I went on a pub crawl you could still smoke in a pub [17:06] You can if you go in the smoking area ;) [17:06] * awilkins avoids [17:06] ooh AlanBell, we should do a pubcrawl, i havent done a proper pubcrawl for aaages [17:07] I fail to see the point in smoking. Could anyone here (if they smoke) tell me why they do? Just wondering :-) [17:08] I live in an area where teenage pregnancy, unemployment, drugs and smoking is high for 13 year olds - so I see it a lot. [17:08] Why is my grammar so bad tonight, I apologise! [17:10] I don't smoke, but the majority of those I was at VIth form with for the last two years do. Most of them seem to do it as a social activity. [17:10] Meh [17:10] I don't care what other people do as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. [17:11] * AlanBell checks calendar for Thursday [17:11] pubcrawl looks feasible, I wonder if popey can come out to play [17:11] Which is to say, just about nothing so long as they have anybody who cares at all about them, since even doing nothing would affect /them/. [17:11] No, jutnux? [17:11] I tried it once when I was about 21 [17:11] One puff, that is [17:12] I didn't see anything special about it [17:12] uhm [17:12] Darael, you know what I meant - I hope. [17:12] Although recently I've been wondering if getting a nicotine inhaler or electronic cigarette would assist concentration [17:12] popey: wondering about Farnham on Wednesday night is the plan so far [17:13] jutnux: I appreciate the sentiment, but I also know that one can find harm to someone if one follows /any/ action far enough. [17:13] wandering even [17:13] My father was unable to give up permanently, even after they drained a pint of fluid out of his chest cavity [17:13] s/know/suspect/ [17:13] That turned out to be the pancreatitis from his chronic boozing though :-S [17:13] Darael: Yes, I agree. [17:14] AlanBell: this wednesday [17:14] In 3 years I'll have to come to one ;) [17:15] ? [17:15] popey: yeah, day after tomorrow [17:17] * jutnux has tea, be back soon....... [17:17] maybe [17:17] need to check with moonbase alpha [17:18] Oh, I see a new meeting date has been arranged. Will we remember? ;) [17:23] A thursday at 12:00, thats an unusual time [17:23] it is [17:24] the idea is to get different people along, there are some who can't sit on IRC in the evening [17:24] Is that using the idea that people are more likely to be around and not doing something productive [17:25] most of us will be in work/college, so not being productive :) [17:25] DJones: shhh, stop describing my daily irc activity [17:26] bigcalm: I was just talking about me [17:26] But using the "us" to not draw attention to myself [17:26] DJones: well I don't know if it is more people, but it might be different people, so if we keep shuffling it about a bit there will be more people involved in total [17:27] Good thinking [17:27] AlanBell: Its a good iea, I think its more likely to bring in more people, evenings do seem to have gotten quiet on IRC lately [17:27] s/iea/idea [17:28] Thursday at noon UTC... why, that puts it at 17:30 IST, conveniently in the evening for me to drop in! === tubadaz is now known as tubadaz_ === tubadaz_ is now known as tubadaz [18:00] aloha [18:00] czajkowski: \o [18:00] czajkowski: prod [18:01] * czajkowski glares at MooDoo and davmor2 special eh lads [18:01] * christel tickles laura [18:01] hullu my pretty [18:02] czajkowski: I didn't say you were special I argued that you'd beat him for that I said I was special :P [18:02] christel: darling how are you [18:02] i'm special :( [18:02] no gord the term was "Special" [18:03] czajkowski: not at all bad! :) [18:04] christel: but by the sounds of picking on bigcalm not all good either infact part evil Muhahahahahahaha! [18:04] oh, he is for picking on i believe [18:05] [Jono Bacon] Nicholas Skaggs Joining The Canonical Community Team - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/12/12/nicholas-skaggs-joining-the-canonical-community-team/ [18:05] * bigcalm eyes up christel [18:06] :P [18:06] Time to go. Goodbye. [18:08] \o s-fox [18:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LjxaK-dVugs [18:16] http://youhavedownloaded.com [18:17] heh, seen that in numerous IRC channels now [18:17] popey: the funny part is it says it has no records on me :D [18:18] popey: or any records for my static IP on the previous ISP I used xD [18:21] I think they have a list of torrents, and they grab the list of IPs in the swarm for those torrents from maybe four or five trackers. The result is that they miss a lot. [18:39] If you use the bay where the pirates lounge then you wont be on there. They gave up on trackers a longggggggg tiem ago. [18:39] I think they use DHT now [18:40] DHT rather requires that one is using a tracker for at least one torrent, in order to discover another peer and thus get ahold of the hash table. No? [18:42] I have no idea. [18:42] czajkowski: by the way Hello [18:42] * czajkowski kicks davmor2 on her way out [18:42] toodles my dear : ) [18:44] czajkowski: you can't good you only just got here [18:45] czajkowski: How do you actually pronounce your nick? [18:45] Chi Kov Ski [18:46] Ah thanks [18:46] Whenever I see it I keep running through my head how to pronounce it. [18:46] it's just like the russian Tchaikovsky [18:46] jutnux: I'll tell you really czajkowski is pronounced OI! [18:47] The composer? [18:47] jutnux: that's the one [18:47] jutnux: aye [18:57] http://www.bfi.org.uk/whatson/bfi_southbank/events/previews_in_conversation/look_around_you_robert_popper_peter_serafinowicz looking forward to this [19:08] hello [19:09] I know ubuntu have experience of running irc meetings. any comments/advice/whatever. wiki.ubuntu doesnt have much on the acutally running of them instead of the minutes [19:12] Paul2: how do you mean? [19:13] how do you stop a dozen people all chatting at once? I supose liberal use of mute etc [19:17] Paul2: same way you do in a physical meeting [19:18] hi Paul2, we have a guide that might help [19:18] I saw there was that bot. I guess that helps [19:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Meeting/Guidelines [19:18] Still doesn't stop distractions, tangents, bikeshedding etc [19:18] yeah, that is the chair's job [19:19] like in real life [19:19] fair enough :) [19:19] the chair is responsible for timekeeping and keeping people focussed [19:19] well it seemed to work well enough in real life. Now just got to apply it to IRC. [19:20] you need to have an agenda, and a chair [19:20] Just concerned that people who actually turn up in real life have made a commitment in time and effort to be there and get something done. Whereas anyone can join IRC and put their 5000 word 2pence into the convo [19:20] we'll see how it goes :) [19:21] you can mute people if they are disruptive, or let them rant away, the nice thing is that someone trying to dominate a conversation can't actually stop anyone else from saying stuff [19:21] whereas they can in real life [19:23] in real life you sigh loudly and offer to get a round in, ignoring that person. :D [19:23] but cheers :) [19:24] Can anyone join the Ubuntu meetings? [19:24] yep [19:27] jutnux: most global teams meet in the #ubuntu-meeting channel, we have the #ubuntu-uk-meeting channel for our meetings [19:28] Oh right, cool. [19:28] and yeah, everyone is welcome to both [19:28] Will have to sit in on one everyday. [19:29] !fridge [19:29] The Fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com [19:29] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ meeting calendars here [19:29] People who hang out on there are fridge magnets? [19:30] Evening [19:30] daubers \o [19:30] \o [19:31] MartijnVdS: that seems only logical [19:31] * daubers waits for the toad in the hole to cook \o/ [19:31] * MartijnVdS learned some Cisco stuff today [19:31] "Turn off port security" [19:31] MartijnVdS: Cisco stuff is a little odd [19:32] daubers: I see the point of "port security" (maximum number of MACs per switch port) [19:32] but not when I'm trying to install access points :) [19:32] "Why does only the first client get an IP?) [19:32] Ergh [19:34] jacobw: my thoughts exactly :) [19:35] MartijnVdS: heh heh, seen that [19:36] mgdm: it's very confusing.. and the guy who manages the ciscos wasn't on-site [19:36] mgdm: also, the server room has no 3g/gsm coverage 8-( [19:36] bah [19:36] * mgdm did a CCNA a few years ago [19:36] every now and again, it becomes useful [19:37] do they teach you how to use IOS? [19:37] mgdm: I can imagine [19:37] Yes [19:37] I'm slightly surprised Cisco didn't react a bit more when Apple decided on that name [19:40] mgdm: IBM didn't respond to PS2 either [19:41] * daubers had a CCNA until recentl [19:41] y [19:42] mgdm, thry did, apple licence it I think [19:42] Especially after the whole iPhone thing. [19:45] Anyone here have a system76 machine? [19:46] Dave2, my old friend. [19:46] ooh new Infinitte Monkey Cage [19:46] Hello MarquessDeBonBon \o [19:47] Anybody watching the Man Shitty - Chelski game? [19:53] TIMC is great :) [19:54] What is the score so far MarquessDeBonBon? [19:55] 0 - 0 [19:55] Though to be fair the match hasn't started yet. [19:56] Oh, HAHAHHA. [19:59] jutnux: they're well priced even cosidering the cost to ship them to the UK [20:00] I thought they seemed a little expensive. [20:00] Might have to look again. [20:01] jutnux: you can get a machine equivilent to a £1500 thinkpad for £800 [20:01] jutnux: that's including shipping [20:01] * jutnux has a look [20:03] So you can [20:03] Woah [20:03] 16gb machine [20:03] i7 quad core [20:03] £723 [20:03] cheap [20:05] Indeed [20:07] Definitely getting my next machine off of there [20:07] if I don't build it myself [20:10] i7 quad-core = huge waste of money unless you're transcoding. [20:11] A quad-core i5 is as fast in all but a few niche tasks. [20:11] Umhm. [20:11] I don't think I'd need 16gb of ram either [20:11] 8gb would be fine [20:11] someone on #ubuntu-uk saying you can have too much computing power? [20:11] this is odd [20:11] jacobw: he's obviously trying to run Unity. [20:11] haha [20:12] bar them kick them off the channel now [20:12] For that he needs 8x Westmere-EX 10-core CPUs with 384gb of RAM and 4x GTX 580s all submerged in LN2.. [20:12] Hahaha. [20:13] Take it you both dislike Unity ;) [20:13] * DJones o ps up & kicks jacobw :) [20:13] Careful [20:13] jutnux = Mark Shuttleworth [20:13] For suggesting that unity won't run on a 386SX [20:13] Won't it? :o [20:13] It probably will, but that's not to say it'll run usably fast. [20:14] Hahaha. [20:14] 16gb of RAM is overkill. I built a 12gb system a year ago, and I rarely use even 6gb. [20:14] none of ubuntu will run on even a i586 machine [20:14] 8gb of ram sounds ridiculous enough to me [20:14] Only with a user upgrade to control the system upgrade [20:14] ali1234: A fair point, that, actually. [20:14] 8gb means you never have to swap to disk. [20:14] currently using 14 of 16GB here [20:15] ali1234, doing what? [20:15] What are you running o.0 [20:15] Must say, my 4gb machine has never used swap even transcodeing video [20:15] firefox [20:15] Hahaha [20:15] The more RAM one has, the more swap is necessary if one wishes to hibernate at any point. [20:15] I was about to say the most memory-hungry app I run is Firefox. [20:15] HAHHAHAHAH [20:15] ali1234: thats what you get trying to cache google.com :) [20:15] Got to love Chromium [20:15] Firefox routinely uses 2gb on my Windows machine. [20:15] * jacobw doesn't love chromium [20:16] no thunderbird makes firefox look like a rank amateur [20:16] Even the likes of Skyrim (I play on High, 2560x1440) only use 1gb. [20:16] transcoding doesn't use ram, neither does games [20:16] ... [20:16] whtat uses up ram is badly coded programs that try to reimplement swap memory and disc caching [20:17] I'll tell you what uses RAM: databases. [20:17] And games... [20:17] transcoding and and games use CPU time not so much memory [20:17] and ewes :p [20:17] Transcoding not so much since it's all done on the graphics card or GPU now. [20:17] lolno [20:18] jussi: you there? [20:18] Do you know what QuickSync is? Probably not. [20:18] There's also Badaboom. [20:19] * jacobw ponders another episode of 'house' vs studying python [20:20] none of that stuff works on linux [20:20] jacobw: Having seen an occasional episode of House, I'd say studying python wins [20:21] if you install a patched mplayer you can get h264 playback in hardware on nvidia [20:21] MarquessDeBonBon: I'm assuming those are Windows apps [20:21] that's about it [20:23] davmor2: yes. [20:24] ali1234: didnt think you needed patched mplayer [20:25] I dont use patched mplayer here for it, just install libvdpau [20:25] the one in the repos only does mpeg2 last time i checked [20:25] ie dvd [20:25] i have done it recently on my revo [20:25] 11.10 [20:26] well that's progress at least [20:27] night all [20:28] hi [20:28] mplayer has done h264 vdpau support for a long long time [20:29] I have just tried to install the foomatic-db package and clicking apply it wants to Remove Ubuntu-desktop [20:29] Procrastination :-( [20:29] ? [20:29] gord: va-api > vdpau imho [20:29] gord: as it also works on other chips than nvidia [20:30] MartijnVdS, i don't care, i only get nvidia ;) [20:30] I'm never buying nvidia every again :) [20:30] everything else is terrible, bad drivers, bad chips. ew. [20:30] nvidia drivers are pretty bad [20:31] Intel's are the least worst [20:31] i work with these drivers every day, i fight with them. nvidia works 99% of the time how you expect, the rest are terrible [20:31] intel among the worst offenders, just because they are open source doesn't mean they are good [20:31] intel flat out lie [20:31] gord: except when you're a user and not a 3d/gl dev [20:31] why is unity-2d so much faster on nvidia then? [20:31] gord: nvidia and ati break on EVERY upgrade [20:32] well that will depend on your chipset and system, but unity-2d uses 2d acceleration so i would expect it to be rather nippy [20:32] every time i click on the spread in unity i get a 5 second delay [20:32] and dragging windows is really laggy too === Pernig_ is now known as Pernig [20:35] Works fine for me [20:36] 1 datapoint [22:01] popey: what energy monitor do you have? === monsterwizard is now known as booby === booby is now known as thechick [22:05] o_O [22:09] mgdm: I did a horrible thing. IRC bot in PHP [22:10] bigcalm: you're not the first :) [22:11] not that that makes it less evil [22:11] :D [22:11] I'm proud of my little achievement. At least it was a learning experience [22:14] wotsit do? [22:15] !info tig [22:15] Info about tig: Twitter IRC Gateway. Written by bigcalm in PHP. Modular addons are welcome. [22:15] tig (source: tig): ncurses-based Git repository browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2 (natty), package size 204 kB, installed size 528 kB [22:15] Haha [22:16] hehe [22:16] The original intention was for it to gate tweets for various minecraft people to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft. The bot I was using (written by dg in perl) didn't handle IRC and Twitter hickups very well, so decided to write my own [22:16] think i figured out a new drinking game, watch a bbc nature documentary, drink whenever you see an ubuntu release. this may explain why its not precice penguin, we would all die from alcohol poisoning [22:17] In the process of writing it, I found the best way was to make it modular. Thus it now also does factoids [22:17] !info popey [22:17] Info about popey: (born January 8, 1935) was one of the most popular American singers of the 20th century. A cultural icon, he is widely known by the single name Elvis. He is often referred to as the "King of Rock and Roll" or simply "the King". [22:17] Package popey does not exist in natty [22:18] gord: you just want an excuse for a drink ;) [22:18] always [22:18] have you seen how many penguins are in frozen planet though? its a lot [22:19] Tesco are selling a lovely mulled ginger wine. Might have me another glass tonight [22:19] Bottle doesn't last long, good job it's only 2.99 [22:22] I might have to add cowsay to tig next [22:27] Wow... [22:27] cowsay -l | grep -v "^Cow" | sed -e "s% %\n%g" | sed -e "s%\(.*\)%cowsay -f \1 Now I am a \1%" | sh | less [22:30] !learn cowsay = cowsay -l | grep -v "^Cow" | sed -e "s% %\n%g" | sed -e "s%\(.*\)%cowsay -f \1 Now I am a \1%" | sh | less [22:30] I now know that cowsay = cowsay -l | grep -v "^Cow" | sed -e "s% %\n%g" | sed -e "s%\(.*\)%cowsay -f \1 Now I am a \1%" | sh | less [22:30] bigcalm: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [22:30] This information can be retrieved with: !info cowsay [22:30] If you need to remove it, use: !forget cowsay [22:30] !info cowsay [22:30] Info about cowsay: cowsay -l | grep -v "^Cow" | sed -e "s% %\n%g" | sed -e "s%\(.*\)%cowsay -f \1 Now I am a \1%" | sh | less [22:30] cowsay (source: cowsay): A configurable talking cow. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03+dfsg1-3 (natty), package size 19 kB, installed size 280 kB [22:34] bigcalm: what does all that do? :P [22:34] Azelphur: install cowsay and find out :) [22:35] :P [22:35] It's safe [22:36] indeed, :D [22:46] just found a coil of solder from Tandy, 40% lead === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:50] AlanBell, good for the brain [22:52] AlanBell: ah, the good stuff [22:52] I wonder when the environmental lobby are going to get round to banning lead-free solder? [23:36] window 56 [23:37] That's a lot of windows [23:37] wasn't the highest either [23:37] Oh my [23:37] top score right now is my aquarius window at number 70 [23:38] or bottom score, depending on how you look at it [23:45] I do well to remember 7 windows, never mind 70 [23:48] adv_windowlist \o/ [23:52] I have bindings for windows up to 100 [23:53] Highest window right now is 67 though (and there are a lot of gaps) [23:55] what are you talking about? [23:56] jacobw: irssi window numbers (it is an IRC client)