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apwbdjp_cb, in case you wanna invoke it by its name (from terminal, for example), it's palimpsest00:00
Ibysskn_: Ubuntu 10.04 is the new LTS.00:00
RelondoSo I guess nobody else has any ideas?00:00
qmanjr5How do I add items to the sidebar in Unity?00:01
RelondoWould it help for me to give any more information?00:01
_cbI was used to the old way administration... want to give Unity an honest try but sure miss a lot of things from the old UI00:01
kn_shit... where van i find older inst. for chrome?00:01
pangolin!language00:01
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:01
kn_sorry...00:01
Gaming4JCIs there anyway of downgrading my Ubuntu version to an LTS release?00:02
inertialthanks trism00:02
SharpieMarkerno need to downgrade.. wait a couple months and you can upgrade to a LTS00:02
murfieGaming4JC: pinning00:03
Relondokn: this may be helpful http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2010/02/08/1755867.aspx00:03
Ibysskn_: You can also just download a compressed version of chrome and make install it that way...00:03
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Gaming4JChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_12.04_Precise_Pangolin :)00:04
happyfacebah, my battery life is 2:30 with bumblebee vs. 7 hours in windows00:05
RelondoI'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 11.10. I have tried with Wubi and by booting from a flash drive on 64-Bit, and I've tried booting from a flash drive with 32-Bit. The problem I'm having is that I can boot to Ubuntu, but once I do, there's no video. I have audio, but nothing shows up. I have also tried booting the 32-Bit version from a flash drive on another computer, but that computer doesn't seem able to boot from USB, so I don't 00:05
RelondoAnd I've tried booting 64-Bit from a CD.00:05
godofmischiefIve gone and killed yet another ubuntu install,  last  night my xserver became unstable couldn't keep it from kicking me out to the login screeen, just a bit ago it asked to do some updates  i allowed it, now it won't boot.00:05
qmanjr5How do I add items to the sidebar in Unity?00:06
apwbdjpRelondo, and none of the above was able to display anything?00:06
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: If it's Oneric Ocelot I've broken it a dozen times just but letting it stay on by itself. ;P00:06
kn_Ibyss: Big beer for you when you will be in poland someday:) Thank gods for comunity:)00:06
RelondoNone. I hear Ubuntu startup sounds and I can change the volume (playing the volume tones).00:06
Gaming4JCmysql likes to die on it randomly.00:06
IbyssPython3 is ubuntu's default now? o_O Or is it just python 2 and 3 installed.00:06
Canadian1296Disable internet (perminently) on Ubuntu 10.04?00:06
Ibysskn_: Did you found what you wanted?00:07
kn_jup00:07
kn_your idea worked:)00:07
RelondoI used Unetbootin to make my bootable flash drive, by the way.00:07
DatsunHave just spent HOURS trying to debug Apache.  Finally cleared by Firefox cache and that fixed it.  Is this common?00:07
Gaming4JCCanadian1296: You could apt-get remove a bunch of core components. Like DNS, BIND, and others sure to break internet :P00:07
godofmischiefGaming4JC:  what's the best course of action from this point since it will no longer boot, reinstall again or try to recover it, there's no data loss going to occur, im so good at breaking it, that i dont' leave anything senseitive on there for very long.00:07
apwbdjpRelondo, at what moment does the screen go black? Immediately after grub? After the splash screen?00:08
godofmischiefGaming4JC: love it when it works but jeez i tend to break it a lot lol.00:08
Canadian1296Gaming4JC: I'm just making a livecd and its important it cannot connect to the internet. So is there way besides "breaking" it?00:08
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: What broke exactly? Maybe we can start flooding launchpad with bug reports.00:08
godofmischiefGaming4JC: so frustrating00:08
yamahaalex37ubuntu finished, grub loaded, not I have black screen with blinking space....00:08
Ibysskn_: Iced tea would do, thanks for the offer anyway. :300:09
murfiea blinking space woahah00:09
RelondoNo, I don't get any visuals at all. What happens is (if booting from flash drive) I go to the boot menu, and select my flash drive. The Unetbootin menu pops up, and I select Try Ubuntu without installing00:09
apwbdjpbrb00:09
Gaming4JCCanadian1296: So you want the services to still be there, just not use them?00:09
Gaming4JCCanadian1296: You can make a new user and limit him see - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149531000:09
transx3I only get sound out of one speaker... whats up with that? drivers00:10
godofmischiefGaming4JC: it aborts the boot splash then goes to posting. hangs up after some pulse audio, i can press ctl alt delete and it receives the shutdown signal but won't fully boot00:10
Canadian1296Gaming4JC: No, id like to remove them. I know how, i just dont know what to remove. And the livecd user will be running as root, so that doesnt work00:10
RelondoAnd if I go to the normal boot from Hard Drive, then select my Wubi Ubuntu installation. After both of these things, there is a short flash of some horizontal white lines, and then nothing.00:10
kashyap1package linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r7: task do_configure: failed00:10
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: virtual terminals work? F1 through F1100:10
transx3?00:10
godofmischiefGaming4JC: no obviously errors at the last line it posts like its waiting, but it doesnt' seem to ever get over whatever its waiting on00:10
yamahaalex37ubuntu finished, grub loaded, not I have black screen with blinking space....00:10
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murfieso you not have black screen, eh00:11
godofmischiefGaming4JC: i beleive so, i can reach cli that way00:11
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: Yes, if you get CLI working you can try to pkill xserver and startx again, see what's hanging00:11
Relondoapwbdjp Would it help to have my specs? Current OS?00:12
godofmischiefGaming4JC: what's pkill do differently then just kill, ive used kill PID after doing ps -A00:12
Relondoapwbdjp: Would it help to have my specs? Current OS?00:12
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transx3Sooo, do you guys not know?00:12
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yamahaalex37initctl: Event failed00:12
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: pkill doesn't need PID.00:12
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: it just randomly looks for process with that name and kills it. PID is probably better way of doing it actually :P00:13
godofmischiefGaming4JC: so you can just kill lightdm ?00:13
Gaming4JCsure00:13
transx3h00:13
ImTheDudehello00:13
Gaming4JC!welcome | ImTheDude00:13
Canadian1296Gaming4JC: No, id like to remove them. I know how, i just dont know what to remove. And the livecd user will be running as root, so that doesnt work00:13
godofmischiefGaming4JC:  lol i see thanks i may try that in a bit, gotta reboot its on this machine.  Dual boot with win7 ult 64 bit.00:14
Gaming4JC!hi | ImTheDude00:14
transx3Type rm -R in the terminal00:14
Gaming4JCheh Ubottu isn't friendly anymore :(00:14
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: cool, I dualboot too :)00:14
transx3Type rm -R  !!!00:14
kashyap1package linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r7: task do_configure: failed00:15
godofmischiefGaming4JC: got no choice i break ubuntu so often, running a ubuntu vm at the moment.00:15
Gaming4JCCanadian1296: Yeah I'm not expert on that, might want to try #ubuntu-server and ask what services they are00:15
ImTheDudehave a question why does the dictionary not responding ? its from the add panel00:15
apwbdjpRelondo, I'm not so good with hardware and driver issues, but someone else might help, so yeah it's always good to give this kind of details00:15
RelondoGaming4JC: Do you run your dualboot with Wubi and Windows?00:15
OerHeksdont do that transx300:15
transx3You guys sgould!00:15
Gaming4JCRelondo: no I partitioned my hard drive and just dual boot with grub00:15
transx38should00:15
Relondoapwbdjp: I'm running Windows 7.00:15
transx3I'm not a dumb ass I know what it means, I just want help with my damn sound!!!00:16
godofmischiefRelondo: i ran a dual boot setup like that for a while, considering that wubi creates a virtual drive, i didn't find it as fast as straight to the HD, tho it does allow you to use the windows boot manager.00:16
Gaming4JCtransx3: not a good idea for anything "rm" which means remove and -R is recursively as I recollect :P00:16
RelondoGaming4JC: Ah. When you downloaded your ISO from the website, did it come with the Wubi.exe in it already?00:16
Canadian1296Gaming4JC: Okay thanks00:16
transx3Yeah, I know this, its computer suicide00:16
Relondogodofmischief: So do you run it partitioned now? And what is this "grub" that you guys are talking about?00:17
Gaming4JCRelondo: Yeah I think so, I just never tried it. Used to the old fashioned way. :)00:17
Gaming4JCRelondo: grub is a boot loader... see also...00:17
Gaming4JC!grub | Relondo00:17
ubottuRelondo: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)00:17
apwbdjpRelondo, GRUB is the GRand Unified Bootloader, it's what most Linux distros use to boot00:17
murfieand way bloated00:18
RelondoSo it's not something else that I should have been installing?00:18
transx3if ubuntu wont boot, its probably the bootloader...00:18
godofmischiefRelondo: grub is the linux boot manager.  YesI created an actual partition for it and did a side by side install. which the ubuntu image if you boot via usb or disk wll walk u through00:18
Gaming4JCmurfie: you prefer LILO? :P00:18
DatsunWhy would Apache be able to see all my directories EXCEPT for the public one?00:18
Gaming4JCRelondo: If you used Wubi you don't need it afaik.00:18
RelondoAs in, it comes with Ubuntu?00:18
murfieI still have nightmares from LILO... stopping at stages like LI- or so :(00:18
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apwbdjpRelondo, no, when you do a full Linux install (with partitioning and all that), the installer will setup grub00:19
Gaming4JCRelondo: Yes it comes with it if you install it from the CD with nothing else  e.g.... boot computer with Ubuntu in your drive00:19
RelondoMy ultimate goal here is to actually have Ubuntu installed on a separate partition; however, I was waiting to get some software to backup a complete image of my HD, in case something goes horribly wrong.00:19
pokponghi guys00:20
RelondoSo I have just been trying out Wubi and InLive.00:20
RelondoAnd that software is here now! Wonderful.00:20
Gaming4JCRelondo: CloneZilla always good to have a backup - and yeah the full dual-boot is pretty simple now with graphical partitioner. Used Gparted during installation now. :)00:20
pokpongnot sure if I created that file by mistake but I just realised that I have a file named "~" in my home dir00:20
cheshire_foxWell, I uninstalled the STA driver, then reinstalled the b43 driver.  Now I can see access points, but I'm back at square one00:20
cheshire_foxI can't get onto/into the access points00:21
RelondoSo none of you have ever even heard of my problem before?00:21
transx3Sound help anyone?00:21
ImTheDudedoes anyone know why dictionary will not work ?00:21
ImTheDudeits a tab from add panel00:21
godofmischiefGaming4JC: i find the paritioning during the install to be a bit quirky, sometimes gives different options then others for some reason, make a gparted live usb stick i find that's the most straight forward and simple way to do partitioning on the HD.00:22
fizyplanktonRelondo: yamahaalex37 i have nommed to my hearts content. whatd i miss?00:22
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apwbdjpRelondo, I really find it weird.. tell me, once you hear the startup sound from Ubuntu, have you tried doing Ctrl+Alt+F1?00:22
yamahaalex37frustration00:22
cheshire_foxDoes anyone have any idea as to what I can do to get wireless working again?00:22
Gaming4JCpokpong: did you check to see what's in it? could be cache or a reference to your home directory. Try "file ~" from terminal or open it with gedit.00:22
RelondoWhat is Ctrl+Alt+F1?00:22
Gaming4JCpokpong: see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_%28command%29 :)00:22
fizyplanktonRelondo: pulls up a virtual terminal00:22
RelondoOh. No. But I have tried toggling the monitor on and off, as well as changing the brightness.00:23
Gaming4JCgodofmischief: yeah gparted directly is nice00:23
apwbdjpRelondo, it's a way to switch from the grahical interface into a text-only terminal / console.00:23
godofmischiefctl alt f7 or f8 should return you to your xserver session00:23
RelondoAh.00:23
pokpongGaming4JC, it contains:  "Netrw Directory Listing                                        (netrw v141)"  followed by a listing00:24
Relondofizyplankton: My problem is way up in the logs, if you would simply scroll :)00:24
Relondo(That was not meant to be instulting.)00:24
Relondo*insulting00:24
Gaming4JCpokpong: sounds like something from vim editor... perhaps you installed it?00:24
transx3sound00:25
transx3sound00:25
transx3sound00:25
FloodBot1transx3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:25
ImTheDudecan anyone help me?00:25
apwbdjp!help | ImTheDude00:25
yvaquick technical advice, has somebody already used couchdb?00:25
ubottuImTheDude: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:25
transx3Well then help, what is this channel for if not for help...00:26
pangolin!attitude | transx300:26
ubottutransx3: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines00:26
Relondoapwdbjp: Once I have pulled up ctrl+alt+F1, what should I do?00:26
jasminhii friend00:26
pokpongGaming4JC, yes im using vim...i was a little worried about who could have created that file00:26
DarkStar1does 11.10 come with a mysql server?00:26
transx3yeah, i know that, but ignoring isnt very nice now, is it?00:26
Gaming4JCtransx3: just sudo apt-get purge pulse-audio and sudo apt-get install pulse-audio? xD00:26
somsipDarkStar1: no it has to be installed00:27
jasmin[root@localhost jperf2.0.0]# ./jperf.sh00:27
jasminbash: ./jperf.sh: Permission denied00:27
pangolintransx3: you expect 1500 users to tell you, no we don't know00:27
transx3Yeah, im not stupid, I know my terminal00:27
DarkStar1somsip: ok. I banjaxed the damn setup then00:27
ImTheDudei would like to know if anyone has had problems with dictionary?00:27
jasmini m not able to fix it becu i m new at linux00:27
Gaming4JCpokpong: probably just a temp file that was created then. You can also check the modification date and see if it's anything unusual. If it's just text it's probably not very threatening :)00:27
pokpongGaming4JC, and also woried that i deleted that file already on my other desktop00:27
jasminanyone help me00:27
RelondoImTheDude: Could you be more specific?00:27
pokpongGaming4JC, thanks!00:28
daviddoriais there a gcc-4.3 package for 11.10?00:28
Gaming4JCjasmin: try "sh jperf.sh" you're trying to run a bash script. Just make sure you know what's in it before running whatever it is. ;)00:28
ImTheDudei type a word in the dictionary that i got from add panel and it says nothing or error.00:28
RelondoGaming4JC: Will the grub help me partition my HD, or do I need to do that on my own first?00:28
fizyplanktonRelondo: so basically, you boot the installer, and nothing happens visually?00:29
somsipdaviddoria: doesn't look like it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gobjc-4.300:29
jasminGaming4JC, Jperf is a graphical frontend for Iperf written in Java00:29
somsipdaviddoria: gah - wrong link00:29
apwbdjpfizyplankton, he boots a live session, he can hear the ubuntu login music, but sees nothing00:29
Relondofizyplankton: Yes. But I believe Ubuntu iteslf is actually booting.00:29
Gaming4JCRelondo: Grub only allows you too choose operating systems - so you'd need to partition it first. Then grub just makes a little menu00:29
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: i had the exact same problem with my laptop and 10.0400:29
apwbdjpfizyplankton, same for a grub session00:29
Relondofizyplaknton: I have also used Wubi, with the same resulsts.00:30
somsipdaviddoria: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/devel/00:30
godofmischiefImTheDude: are you sure you have dictonaries loaded? you may have installed a dicontary app but depending on your purposees it might not have a  default dictionary or library, check to see if there are ones availible for it.00:30
Gaming4JCjasmin: should be ok then, you may also need to run it with "sudo sh blah.sh" depending00:30
apwbdjpa wubi session*, fizyplankton, really sorry.00:30
Gaming4JCjasmin: just keep in mind any command with "sudo" is running as root, so use with caution.00:30
Gaming4JC:)00:30
ImTheDudewhere?00:30
daviddoriasomsip, is there no "deprecated" repository or something where I can use one from an older version?00:30
godofmischiefImTheDude: the site for the app whatever its name is.00:30
jasminGaming4JC, thanks a lots00:30
Gaming4JCjasmin: np :)00:30
jasminGaming4JC, i got it00:30
fizyplanktonRelondo: i had that same issue on my laptop. all i did is just try it again and again. the display drivers constantly crapped out at random points, all you can do is try it till it works00:30
Relondogaming4JC: Thanks.00:30
fizyplanktonRelondo: is it laptop or desktop?00:31
Relondofizyplankton: I am also using a laptop.00:31
somsipdaviddoria: that page is probably the best jumping off point, but I don't believe that deprecated packages are ported to new version. It doesn't really make sense00:31
fizyplanktonRelondo: try plugging it into an external display00:31
transx3@pangolin, no i dont expect 1500 user to tell me but i do expect some suggestions or at least the acknowledgment of my question.00:31
Relondofizyplankton: I believe it's an L775-D.00:31
fizyplanktonRelondo: what lappy model?00:31
Euviusaaahhhh,, I cant log in to my Ubuntu anymore.  it hanges00:31
Relondofizyplankton: Toshiba.00:31
Euviuswhat do I do00:31
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fizyplanktonis l775-d the model?00:31
EuviusIm on a USB stick00:31
Euviusit just stopped working for no reason whatsoever00:32
pangolintransx3: you expect too much. try asking a detailed question, explain the problem clearly...00:32
ikoniaEuvius: try logging in using safe mode/recovery mode00:32
Euviusikonia how00:32
Relondofizyplankton: It's a Toshiba L775-D. So I assume so.00:32
ikoniaEuvius: when you boot you should see "recovery mode" in the grub menu00:32
Gaming4JCikonia: not sure his usb would have grub00:32
Euviusikonia i never see the grub menu00:32
ikoniaGaming4JC: what usb ?00:32
Gaming4JCEuvius: have you tried the alternate terminals? F1-F11?00:32
fizyplanktonRelondo: are you on usbstick or cd?00:32
Relondofizyplankton: Once you got it working once, did it work every other time?00:33
EuviusGaming4JC no, what do I do00:33
Gaming4JCikonia: he's using a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu.00:33
transx3i did, theres not much more to it. as i said before, I run ubuntu 11.10, and sound only comes out of my left speaker, and i know it isnt a hardware problem...00:33
Relondofizyplankton: I have tried both, and Wubi as well.00:33
ikoniaoh, I didn't see that00:33
Relondofizyplankton: I use Unetbootin to create my flash drive.00:33
pangolintransx3: run alsmixer and see if anything is muted00:33
apwbdjpRelondo, you should try a full install, on a real partition, might work00:33
Gaming4JCEuvius: when you come to the login screen (or when it hangs/etc.) try pressing F1 through F11. It will be a terminal. You can do things from there to debug the graphical hangup. Or maybe get some errors.00:33
fizyplanktonRelondo: not really, i had to ctrl-alt-bkspc overy once in a while. then my screen broke off about a month ago (its an ancient dell inspiron 1100. i was happy to see it die)00:33
pangolinalsamixer*00:33
Relondofizyplankton: Could having things other than Ubuntu on my flash drive be the cause of the problem?00:34
fizyplanktonRelondo: does your comp have a cd drive?00:34
EuviusGaming4JC what do I do00:34
Gaming4JCGaming4JC: Ctrl+Alt+F1-F11 rather :o00:34
Relondofizyplankton: yes, because I have tried on a CD.00:34
Gaming4JCEuvius: try that and see if you can get a login screen00:34
Euviusthen what'00:34
Relondoapwbdjp: I intend to, as soon as I get a full image of it saved to my external HD.00:34
fizyplanktonRelondo: probably not, but having other files is just another thing to mess it up, so yes00:34
Gaming4JCEuvius - login if you have a CLI (command line interface) you're good00:34
Gaming4JCyou can try startx00:34
transx3Nothing is muted...00:35
EuviusGaming4JC ok ty00:35
Relondofizyplankton: So the problem is just my drivers? Or my display?00:35
jasminGaming4JC, I m working on my host system win 7 and i build 2 virtual machine on it fedora 15 and now i have to communicate that both fedora but its giving err : [root@localhost bin]# iperf -s00:36
jasminbind failed: Address already in use00:36
fizyplanktonRelondo: boot it up again, but this time rapidly press shift (i dont remember which one, so just do both) and see if you get a menu that says something about recovery or shell or terminal00:36
Relondofizyplankton: And if I do?00:36
transx3pangolin, nothing is muted...00:36
jasminGaming4JC, can u tell me how do i configure that00:36
fizyplanktonRelondo: read me the options so i can tell you which one to select :)00:37
Relondofizyplankton: I'll need to crank up my other laptop. Sec.00:37
Gaming4JCjasmin: I don't know much about #fedora but you could try their channel as well00:37
jasminGaming4JC, ok friend but on virtual machine how do i set IP address00:38
Relondofizyplankton: Should I boot from my flash drive or Wubi?00:38
fizyplanktonRelondo: flashdrive00:39
apwbdjpfizyplankton, unetbootin installs grub in the drive?00:39
Relondofizyplankton: I'm copying the other things from my drive to my computer.00:39
Gaming4JCjasmin: that depends on what VM you are running... Qemu, virtualbox? etc.00:39
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: huh?00:39
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fizyplanktonRelondo: what do you mean? the other files?00:40
apwbdjpfizyplankton, the flash drive he says has been made with unetbootin, I don't think he'll find grub in there00:40
Relondofizyplankton: I said I had things other than Ubuntu on their. I'm preserving them.00:40
jasminGaming4JC, VMware® Workstation 8.0.0 build-47178000:41
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: i can get into an ubuntu boot manager from my lucid install stick00:41
apwbdjpfizyplankton, while with the Wubi install, the Windows bootloader does throw in grub, before the actual ubuntu00:41
Relondofizyplankton: Should I remove wubi.exe from the drive?00:41
Gaming4JCjasmin: I've never used VMWare Workstation, so I've no idea. Though google brought this as first result - http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_net_advanced_ipaddress.html00:42
Gaming4JCgl :)00:42
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: ill admit i dont know anythjing about wubi, but from what i can tell (in my ignorant opinion), it sounds like just another unneccessary thiung to go wrong. im quad booting with no issues and i never use anything other than grub00:42
RelondoQuad? What OS's?00:42
fizyplanktonRelondo: winxp, 2 lucids, and a natty00:42
apwbdjpfizyplankton, he said he's planning on installing grub directly into the mbr, but for now he can't get either wubi or live sessions to run00:43
Relondofizyplankton: I don't know what those last two are. Hold on, switching to other 'top.00:43
Relondoexit00:43
fizyplanktonRelondo: lucid is ubuntu 10.04, and natty is 11.0400:44
apwbdjpfizyplankton, and I agree, having grub first can handle everything00:44
Relondofizyplankton: Ah.00:44
Relondofizyplankton: Ok, so should I or should I not remove Wubi.exe?00:44
apwbdjpfizyplankton, (I think the windows bootloader is unavoidable, even grub can't boot directly a windows install, can it?)00:44
Relondofizyplankton: From the flash.'00:45
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: yes it can. install the windows one like you normally would, then install ubuntu. the win has to be installed first, b/c it formats the mbr, but ubuntu can coexist in grub. its like than on my machine00:45
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: i never use windows boot manager. its a hell00:46
cheshire_foxAnyone care to try and help me with a screwed up wireless problem?00:46
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fizyplanktoncheshire_fox: are you using broadcomm?00:46
ImTheDudeya dictiondary is still giving me error server not found00:46
cheshire_foxYes00:46
fizyplanktoncheshire_fox: then god help you00:47
cheshire_foxAs I've said nearly each time I've asked for help00:47
apwbdjpfizyplankton, it's what I did (windows first, then grub), it says "Windows XP (loader)"00:47
apwbdjpfizyplankton, HAHA ^^ Damn you made me wake up someone00:47
fizyplanktoncheshire_fox: after i set mine up, i made a vow never to have anything to do with it again. im sorry00:47
Relondofizyplankton: I'm about to retry while pressing shift rapidly00:47
apwbdjpRelondo, do so, and tell us if a menu pops up00:48
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: my grub just says something along the lines of "microsoft windows xp home edition (on sdb1)"00:48
ImTheDudeis there another server for the dictionary?00:49
godofmischiefImTheDude: what's the name of the app you are using?00:49
RelondoNo menu from the shifting. Ubuntu just loaded; I heard the welcome sounds.00:49
apwbdjpfizyplankton, then it's probably because my Windows install has also an OEM recovery install on another partition, so there's one windows bootloader for both. Anyway we talked too much about this ^^00:50
ImTheDudegnome dictionary applet00:50
RelondoShould I try the Ctrl+Alt+F1?00:50
fizyplanktonapwbdjp: that would do it00:50
apwbdjpRelondo, yes00:50
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RelondoThere's still nothing.00:51
apwbdjpWow.. :-/00:51
RelondoSome might call this progress: I can't change the volume :)00:51
godofmischiefImTheDude: http://goo.gl/swR3W try that site, it shows you how to use it offline as well as the online servers it uses by default maybe that will ehlp you00:52
apwbdjpRelondo, because you have left the X session, do Ctrl+Altr+F7, and try again00:52
apwbdjpTell me, when the flash drive boots, you get the same menu as in the CD? "Install Ubuntu", "Try Ubuntu without installing"?00:52
ImTheDudeok00:52
Relondoapwbdjp: Yes, I do.00:53
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RelondoCtrl+Alt+F7 is doing nothing.00:53
apwbdjpRelondo, then I'm not surprised you don't get a grub menu, at least.00:53
Relondoapwbdjp: And what is the X session?00:53
godofmischiefRelondo: the x server is the gui environment that runs.00:54
apwbdjpRelondo, X is the server for the graphical interface, under Linux.00:54
Relondoapwbdjp: Ah. Should I try doing this after booting Wubi from the HD?00:55
Relondoapwbdjp: "This" meaning all of the things I just tried.00:55
apwbdjpRelondo, yes, hold the left shift (I think it's the left..) right after choosing Ubuntu, in the first menu00:55
Relondoapwbdjp: Hold, not tap. Got it.00:56
apwbdjpRelondo, actually tap repeately would work too, not sure which is better00:56
RelondoYes, there is a menu!00:56
RelondoThe options are:00:56
RelondoNormal Mode00:56
RelondoSafe graphic mode00:56
RelondoACPI workarounds00:57
RelondoVerbose mode00:57
RelondoDemo mode00:57
HazRPGhey guys \o00:57
apwbdjpTry with safe graphic, at first00:57
fizyplanktonRelondo: apwbdjp im wineing vmware installer, so i can try it along with you guys00:58
HazRPGI seem to have some trouble with my sound, for some reason it won't work at all, and it use to...00:58
HazRPGanyone around that may be able to help me?00:58
HazRPG(thanks in advance)00:58
RelondoWell, safe graphic mode doesn't appear to be doing anything. I also have not yet heard the Ubuntu statup.00:58
fizyplanktonRelondo: wait for the hdd lights to settle down00:59
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Relondofizyplankton: Hold lights? You mean the HDD access lights?00:59
HazRPGits a "82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller" Intel card I have01:00
fizyplanktonRelondo: yes. the light on your comp that lights up when the harddrive is in use01:00
apwbdjpHazRPG, did you do something before it stopped working? (updating kernel, reinstalling alsa?)01:01
Relondofizyplankton: It's still flashing.01:01
apwbdjpThen it's probably still trying to boot01:01
RelondoAlright.01:01
fizyplanktonRelondo: then its still loading. the startup noise wont play untill the very end01:01
Relondofizyplankton: It never took this long before.01:01
Relondofizyplankton: Should safe graphic mode take longer?01:02
fizyplanktonpossibly01:02
HazRPGapwbdjp: hmm, should have thought about trying a different kernel version on boot. I didn't actually do any updates, its just been 1 week ago since I last booted into linux (mainly because I've been busy, plus was working on something that only works in windows). All the updates are still waiting to be installed, but I haven't done them yet.01:02
apwbdjpRelondo, is the screen black? completely off? purple? you see a splash screen?01:02
Relondofizyplankton: Previously, I heard statup noises after about 15-20 seconds.01:02
Relondoapwbdjp: Completely black. I don't if it's off or not.01:03
fizyplanktonRelondo: you have to learn to improvise IO sources. just b/c the monitor isnt workign, that doesnt mean your comp cont comunicate with you. first lesson in linux, its all about input/output. the blinking lights, fan speeds, harddrive startup/spin down noises are all valid sources of output. you just need to learn how to listen01:03
HazRPGapwbdjp: only thing I remember doing last was updating to wine1.3 from wine1.2... finding that it didn't work for what I needed it for, and reverting back to wine1.2. But that was all01:03
HazRPGapwbdjp: but everything was working fine then (even after rebooting)01:04
Relondofizyplankton: Got it.01:04
cheshire_foxhmm01:04
cheshire_foxidea01:04
cheshire_foxbrb01:04
RelondoI need to go for about fifteen minutes. I'm going to leave it booting while I'm gone.01:05
fizyplanktonRelondo: ok01:05
apwbdjpRelondo, I probably won't be here anymore, sorry01:05
Relondoapwbdjp: Alright, thanks for all your help so far :)01:05
apwbdjpRelondo, I wish you luck, and patience01:05
Relondo*goes AFK.01:05
incorrectweird, gnome session classic gives me a hybrid with a bottom bar and unity01:06
apwbdjpSo I'm sorry HazRPG, and everyone else, I gotta go!01:06
apwbdjpGood night! You guys rock, I mean seriously.01:07
smokedoggeyhappey hacking01:07
HazRPGapwbdjp: no worries dude, thanks anyways :)01:07
HazRPGapwbdjp: might try a different kernel, thanks for reminding me of that - plus might try updating too01:07
HazRPGapwbdjp: see ya round01:07
* apwbdjp bows in admiration to fizyplankton, then to everyone else in the chan.01:08
apwbdjpI'll always be in love with this community, seriously.01:08
apwbdjpI've been offtopic too long. Sorry about that! Bye!01:08
ImTheDudethanks godofmischief01:09
ImTheDudei got it working01:09
GaMeBoYHello! When a program is installed via the ubuntu software center, where is the package downloaded/stored in the computer? Or is it only temporarily kept until the software is installed?01:10
ImTheDudeit was set to server i had to set it to local host01:10
MonkeyDustGaMeBoY  /usr/bin/01:10
GaMeBoYcool, so the install packages are kept in there, MonkeyDust?01:10
FlannelGaMeBoY: the package is downloaded to /var/cache/apt/01:11
FlannelGaMeBoY: (well, technically /var/cache/apt/archives/)01:11
BOT_NETwelcom 2 my BOT_NET01:11
GaMeBoYah ok, i see. thanks Flannel01:11
moesCan a Windows program be downloaded to linux for burning to cd/rw01:16
soreaumoes: There are native linux burner programs01:17
soreau! burn | moes01:17
ubottumoes: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto01:17
twocarlomoes:yes01:18
brightsparkmoes, yes, the executable file can exist in linux's directory structure and burned using one of ubottu's suggestions01:18
brightsparkyou just can't /run/ it, obviously01:18
moessoreau, Yes I have k3b..what I want to know is can I download and burn a windows malware program01:18
soreaumoes: You can burn anything you want but the content you're referring to is not supported here01:19
moesbrightspark, Thanks for the info01:21
RelondoI'm back01:21
Relondofizyplankton: It still hasn't done anything :(01:21
Euviushello, I cant connect to Ubuntu anymore all of a sudden.  Im on a USB stick atm01:23
Relondofizyplankton: Correction-it has booted to Windows in my absence.01:23
Euviuswhat do I do01:23
RelondoEuvius: Be more specific. "Can't connect"?01:23
Euviusi try to start my computer, and it just hanges01:23
Euviusat the Xubuntu screen01:23
brightsparkEuvius, can you try using an older kernel at the GRUB menu?01:24
RelondoEuvius: Wait, are you running Ubuntu or Xubuntu?01:24
Euviusis it doing that disk check?01:24
soreauEuvius: Is it a persistent installation?01:24
EuviusIm running GNOME301:24
EuviusGNOME shell on a basic Ubuntu install01:24
Euviuswahts persistent01:24
RelondoOk, you said Xubuntu just a second ago.01:24
EuviusI installed basick Ubuntu, then installed Xubuntu, then instlled GNOME shell01:24
brightsparkEuvius, persistent=installed to HDD rather than off a live cd01:25
Euviusnow running GNOME shell, but Xubuntu shows up in the load screen01:25
Euviusyes01:25
ubuntunoobHi.01:25
askreet_ubuntunoob: hi.01:25
Euviusis it doing that stpid HD check?01:25
Euviustaking hours?01:25
Relondofizyplankton: You there?01:25
Euviushow do I skip that HD check01:25
askreet_Euvius: You can press F2 to see verbose boot information.01:25
Euviusok, Ill press F2 then come back here01:26
askreet_Which will probably be helpful in figuring out what to do about it :)01:26
askreet_Ok01:26
ubuntunoobi need a cool theme for my ubuntu 10.401:26
ubuntunooba really cool one01:26
ubuntunoobany ideas?01:26
askreet_It sounds like you really need a cool look for GNOME, I recommend gnomelook (I think gnomelook.org or gnome-look.org)01:27
ubuntunoobaha01:27
ubuntunoobthanks01:27
askreet_np01:27
RelondoUbuntunoob: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cool+ubuntu+themes01:27
askreet_Lol.01:28
Gaming4JCWould anyone mind telling me why "sendmail" is running if I don't even have the package installed? Odd........01:28
ubuntunoobhmm01:28
RelondoAnyone know where fizyplankton went?01:29
Gaming4JChttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/767513/ <-- botted? D:01:29
ubuntunoob.01:29
Gonzoso you guys must get this question a lot, is it possible to move the side bar from unity?01:30
Gonzoor even to edit the position of the icons01:30
brightsparkubuntunoob, art.gnome.org also has theme components if you want to mix and match.01:31
ubuntunoobvery nice01:32
BOT_NETANY 1 USE BACKTRACK01:32
Euviusaskreet_  It hangs at Stopping Level 5 sometighing compatibility01:33
Euviusi think its getting messed up becuase of the periodic HD check01:33
soreau! backtrack | BOT_NET01:33
ubottuBOT_NET: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition01:33
Gaming4JC"sudo update-rc.d sendmail disable" seems to take care of the process from running, but my error logs are still filled with connection refused01:33
Relondofizyplankton: I got to the grub.01:33
EuviusUbuntu gets broken when it wants to do that periodic HD c heck at bootup01:34
Euviusthats what Im thinking01:34
RelondoGaming4JC: You were on when I was explaining my problem, weren't you?01:35
Euviusall of a sudden, my Ubuntu just stops worknig and I cant log on01:35
Euviusfor no reason01:36
Gaming4JCRelondo: I was on when you were asking about grub and wubi... not sure about the problem01:36
Gonzois there a way to filter out file pattern with ubuntuone? (for instance *.o)01:36
RelondoGaming4JC: Well, my problem is partially fixed. I think.01:36
Gaming4JCEuvius: did you try dropping to a terminal like I had mentioned? :o01:36
EuviusGaming4JC how01:36
Irbidanhello all01:36
askreet_Irbidan: Hello.01:36
RelondoGaming4JC: I got to the grub. There were two options-Ubuntu and Ubuntu (Recovery Mode).01:37
Gaming4JCEuvius: Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F11 then once you get a terminal you can login as usual. Once in try "startx" to load graphics01:37
wookienzguys, i have a 64 bit ubuntu, a 64 bit firefox, an SSD, 8gb of ram, amd x4 465 black edition chip...yet still some apps hang waiting for something...resources show that neither core or ram is maxed out...where do i start?01:38
RelondoGaming4JC: I picked Ubuntu, which appeared to do nothing.01:38
EuviusGaming4JC ok ill try tht01:38
askreet_wookienz: What apps?  I would start by running them inside a terminal to see if they output anything useful.01:38
bodohhallo folks ... I dont have root and cannot sudo ;( :(01:38
RelondoGaming4JC: So then I tried recovery mode, which also appears to be doing nothing. Though I think I was a little impatient-I only waited about five minutes.01:39
bodohit says the uid is 100001:39
bodohwhat shall I do now?01:39
askreet_bodoh: Your UID is 1000, but you don't have access to sudo?  This *is* your computer right? :P01:39
Gaming4JCRelondo: hmm, should work. Though you don't really need grub if using wubi01:39
bodohyeah01:39
askreet_bodoh: What happens why you try something like "sudo -s" in a terminal?01:39
bodohlet me see askhl_01:39
bodohlet me see askreet_01:40
RelondoGaming4JC: It popped up when I held left shift.01:40
bodohowned by uid 1000 .. should be 001:40
bodohthat's why01:40
bodohI cant even enter the safe mode ;(01:40
askreet_Can you copy the entire output to a pastebin so I can see?  It sounds like something odd happened to /etc/sudoers?01:40
RelondoGaming4JC: Actually, even when I didn't hold left shift.01:40
wookienzaskreet_: could be firefox, thunderbird, banshee... i would expect this sort of system to scream..01:41
bodohthis is linux mint 12 BTW01:41
Gaming4JCRelondo: interesting... so you're ubuntu no longer boots? :(01:41
OerHeksah mint is not ubuntu.01:41
bodohsudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 001:41
bodohsudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting01:41
_cbwhat is the name for the left app bar on unity?01:41
bodohnow I understand why Linus hated this stoopid Gnome 301:41
askreet_bodoh: Sounds like you managed to change the ownership on /etc/sudoers, but you can't become root in order to fix it.01:42
askreet_One second.01:42
Gaming4JCbodoh: try #linuxmint01:42
RelondoGaming4JC: Well, I think it does. I don't hear the statup sounds, but I do hear the turning-off sound.01:42
bodohlinux is linux ... not ubuntu or mint01:42
askreet_bodoh: This is a generic Linux problem, I'm happy to help -- you can safely ignore him.01:42
bodohI know01:43
askreet_bodoh:  You'll need to boot into single user mode to adjust the ownership of /etc/sudoers -- are you familiar with how to do that?01:43
bodohactually .. I only need to enter safe mode and "chown root.root /etc/sudoers01:43
bodohthat should work ... but the problem is .. I cant even enter that mode01:43
bodohI dont have windows01:43
RelondoGaming4JC: This time, before I chose either Ubuntu or Ubuntu (Recovery Mode), it just went into...something.01:43
askreet_bodoh:  Exactly but when you say "safe mode" that's probably not low level enough.01:43
bodohand to play with grub, you again need to be root01:43
bodohso .. ;(01:43
askreet_bodoh:  If you use the grub menu you can edit the bootlines on the fly.01:44
bodohmy machine just goes straight .. waiting time is 001:44
askreet_bodoh:  Highlight Linux Mint and press "e", it will let you modify the kernel line -- if you add "1" by itself to end you will boot into single user mode.01:44
bodohto fix that .. I need root again01:44
RelondoGaming4JC: Ctrl+Alt+F1 and Ctrl+Alt+F7 are not working.01:44
_cbI would like to make a folder with shortcuts to my most used apps and put that on the Unity app bar. How do I do that?01:44
CarlFKbodoh: hold down the shift key01:44
bodohshift key?01:45
askreet_bodoh:  If that's true then you will need a live CD to modify /boot/grub/grub.conf to have a delay or just fix /etc/sudoers at that point :P01:45
bodohok ... let me try ... will that give me the boot menu?01:45
CarlFKbodoh: yeah, the key that says "shift" :)01:45
askreet_CarlFK: does that interrupt auto boot grub?01:45
Gaming4JCRelondo: hmm, I am not sure :(01:45
bodohyeah .. that will be next askreet_01:45
bodohok .. I'll reboot & shift01:45
askreet_CarlFK:  That's why I hang out here, I learn something new each day :)01:45
RelondoGaming4JC: This is irking me :/01:45
RelondoGaming4JC: So, no more ideas at all?01:50
Gaming4JCRelondo: well, if it's booting without any graphics it may be a graphics card issue. Such things can be painful to debug... you'd probably need SSH from another box to even do it... :/01:51
RelondoGaming4JC: SSH?01:52
Gaming4JC!ssh | Relondo01:52
ubottuRelondo: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)01:52
Gaming4JCRelondo: you can remotely login to your computer using text, and fix things which aren't possible to repair from the physical computer due to hardware issues, etc.01:52
grkbloodfor some reason whenever i try to play a  video my player outputs a blackscreen, this just started and im not sure why01:52
_cbis it possible to create launchers and put them in a folder?01:53
RelondoGaming4JC: Gotcha. I have yet to try using an external monitor.01:53
RelondoGaming4JC: But I will hopefully try that shortly.01:53
IbyssIn Ubuntu, is there a command to tell your machine to stop feeding a device power? Such a harddrive?01:54
Gaming4JCRelondo: sounds good, but if it's an onboard graphics card issue it may not work either01:54
Euviusok, I reinstalled GNOME01:54
Euviusand now its fixed.  thank you01:54
Gaming4JCEuvius: cool01:54
EuviusGaming4JC ty.  once I got to ctrl+alt+F1 i was albe to fix thingds01:55
EuviusI mean F201:55
RelondoGaming4JC: Would that be because my card is underpowered, or just a compatibility issue? Because I have a pretty decent graphics card.01:55
Gaming4JCRelondo: compatibility issue. ATI and Intels are both were both rather notorius in the past.01:55
Gaming4JCare/were* :P01:55
CarlFKIbyss: hdparm  -y   Put drive in standby mode;  -Y   Put drive to sleep01:56
ultrixxis openbsd better than linux?01:56
IbyssCarlFK: I want to be able to hotswap.01:56
RelondoGaming4JC: I have a Radeon 6520 card. Which is ATI, correct?01:56
xangua!ot | ultrixx01:56
ubottuultrixx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:56
ultrixxxangua: ok01:56
HowardTheDuckhey.  how is everyone01:56
ultrixxi am fine01:57
ultrixxand you?01:57
Gaming4JC!poll | ultrixx01:57
ubottuultrixx: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.01:57
HowardTheDuckgood01:57
Gaming4JCthe bots know :)01:57
Gaming4JCRelondo: yes01:57
HowardTheDuckanyone know much about Optimus graphics and Ubuntu, last I chekced it didn't work01:57
HowardTheDuckwondering if any progress has been made01:57
CarlFKIbyss: no clue01:57
Gaming4JCRelondo: been awhile since I had to install drivers for it manually... it's a bit painful01:57
RelondoGaming4JC: Could installing Ubuntu on it's own partition the proper way fix this?01:57
Gaming4JCRelondo: doubtful since it's a driver issue01:58
Gaming4JC!ati | Relondo01:58
ubottuRelondo: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:58
CHABIhey guys, I'm trying to make it so I can control my windows pc with my Oneiric Laptop. I'vetried setting p a vpn andfor some reason the remote desktop vieweris just showing me a black screen. anyone know how to fix that?01:58
Gaming4JCCHABI: I've had pretty good success with FreeNX myself...01:59
Gaming4JC!freenx | CHABI01:59
ubottuCHABI: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX01:59
CHABIthanks01:59
Relondoubottu: Thanks01:59
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)01:59
CHABII've been trying vinigre and for some reason it's been doing the bvlack screen thing01:59
RelondoWell, this is embarassing.02:00
Gaming4JCRelondo: hmm? :(02:00
woogimy disk utility shows i have 3 partitions. one wld be for ubuntu, another for windows, and the last is (i guess) my free disk space. windows crashed hard on me and i want to just format it off my drive. how do i know which  partition is windows02:00
RelondoI'm talking to a bot. Wihtout knowing it's a bot :/02:00
CHABILol, I had no idea either, I've only been running ubuntu for about a month now02:00
Gaming4JCRelondo: oh yes, lol. ubottu is the channel's favorite :)02:00
woogican anyone help me?02:01
RelondoHow useful are these bots?02:01
woogibetter yet, how useful is this channel?02:01
Gaming4JCRelondo: pretty useful, they cover a lot of googling and wiki pages. Try !help  to see02:01
grkbloodfor some reason whenever i try to play a  video any player i use outputs a blackscreen, this just started and im not sure why02:02
Guest45385hey guys. if i wanted to use an sd card as a file system cache (even if just speeding up reads at boot time etc.), where should i be looking?02:02
woogimy disk utility shows i have 3 partitions. one wld be for ubuntu, another for windows, and the last is (i guess) my free disk space. windows crashed hard on me and i want to just format it off my drive. how do i know which  partition is windows02:02
Relondo!help02:02
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:02
Gaming4JCwoogi: try gparted, look for NTFS and/or Fat32 partition. That's windows02:02
Relondo!patience02:02
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:02
tjiggi_fowoogi, windows would be on an NTFS partition02:02
woogiall 3 say they're ntfs. why wld trhat be?02:04
CHABIso the server side of FreeNX is installable on Windows?02:04
Gaming4JCwoogi: wouldn't make much sense - Linux is always Ext2/3 filesystem, plus a swap space.02:04
gogetawoogi: becouse microsoft rules the world02:04
goddardmy windows when I grab and move them are glitchy... I get no errors what can I do?02:05
Relondofizyplankton: You back?02:06
Gaming4JCCHABI: hmmm not sure about that. I think I missed the part where you were trying to VPN into a windows box :(02:06
Gaming4JCbut FreeNX is nice for Unix machines :)02:07
IHateHavingToRegA friend of mine told me about an application that allows me to edit text files locally on my Windows computer on my Ubuntu box over SSH. Does anyone know what he was referring to, by chance?02:07
CHABIGaming4JC: Yeah, I'm trying to controll a windows box from a linux machine02:07
Tillman32Is there an IRC for Ubuntu Server only? Or is it all rolled into this IRC?02:07
gogetaTillman32: same irc for both02:08
Gaming4JCTillman32: #ubuntu-server exists02:08
Gaming4JCanother channel02:08
Tillman32Nice, I may go check that out. Thanks02:08
gogetaTillman32: lol02:08
gogetaCHABI: teamview vpm made easy02:09
gogetavpn02:09
gogetaCHABI: its cross platform to02:09
Gaming4JC!editors | IHateHavingToReg02:09
ubottuIHateHavingToReg: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code02:09
HazRPGurgh... still getting no sound... well I've narrowed it down to not being a kernel issue... because I've tried all the versions that were still lingering around in grub... anyone able to help me out?02:09
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IHateHavingToReghmm not sure that's really what i'm looking for02:10
goddardwhat is unity built off of?02:10
goddardgnome?02:10
RelondoGaming4JC: Ubottu's link only works for those who already have Ubuntu installed.02:10
CHABIgogeta: Thanks, I'll check it out02:10
IHateHavingToRegNo, but I realize I'm asking in the wrong channel (sorry). I'm on a Windows computer and want to edit things on my Ubuntu box from my Windows computer, over SSH.02:10
Gaming4JCIHateHavingToReg: ah try putty?02:11
Gaming4JC!ssh | IHateHavingToReg02:11
ubottuIHateHavingToReg: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)02:11
pythonirc1011ubuntu python urllib2 -- is it broken? response = urllib2.urlopen("http://google.com", timeout=1) -- this code takes 30 seconds and a Ctrl+C to timeout on a disconnected machine...should take at most 1-2 seconds...02:11
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IHateHavingToRegno I know I can putty in and use Nano but none of the "stock" text editors are really good for editing over a shell, that's why i'm trying to edit it locally02:12
Gaming4JCIHateHavingToReg: so you mean edit a file and upload it over ssh and or sftp02:12
Gaming4JCIHateHavingToReg: probably the best method would be an FTP server, then just edit the text files there via FileZilla02:13
Gaming4JClocal text editor can be whatever you want... e.g. Notepad ++ or Notepad02:13
chamunksI'm trying to share a directory thats inside of a protected directory to another user on this computer the permissions are 770 for the directory containted within the 76002:13
chamunksBoth users are under the same group as the protected directory itself.02:13
IHateHavingToRegGaming4JC: yeah that's kind of what i mean, except it would still mimic something like Putty and update automatically.02:14
IHateHavingToRegsorry i'm not communicating what i'm looking for better02:14
Gaming4JCIHateHavingToReg: sounds neat whatever it is. :)02:14
Gaming4JCchamunks: I'm no expert at permissions, but you may be able to run "sudo chown -R userhere:grouphere directoryhere" ?02:15
Gaming4JC!chown02:16
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions02:16
chamunksMy basic issue is im trying to share a directory within my user to another user on this computer02:16
chamunksAnd thankyou Gaming4JC02:16
IHateHavingToRegGaming4JC: ah, this migth be it, but if not it's close http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP02:17
Gaming4JCIHateHavingToReg: ah ok :)02:17
billionsHere's a tough question: got a bad hdd, am running ubuntu on a pen drive to access the files. copying files works perfectly, except for those on damaged sectors. Ubuntu will happily copy the good files, then stall for about a minute on a broken file before presenting me with an error dialog where I can then skip a broken file and the copy operation will continue. How can I reduce the amount wasted on these broken files?02:19
techie1980I'm having a problem with ubuntu not detecting that my touchpad is in fact a touchpad and thus will not give me touchpad options - like disabling it when the keyboard is in use. is there a way to force this?02:19
billions(ps the error will be: i/o error: error splicing file, every time)02:20
d33pblu3I'm on an Intel Xeon CPU E5520, and I'm trying to change core frequencies.02:21
d33pblu3$ sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed gives me02:21
d33pblu3<unsupported>02:21
d33pblu3The scaling options have been set correctly (well, turned on), and I'm not sure what else to try. Any thoughts?02:21
FloodBot1d33pblu3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:21
bonhofferhow do i see what usb devices are connected?02:26
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: go to a terminal and type "lsusb"02:26
buckyd33pblu3,  you should ask on #gentoo-ia64 they might know02:26
Gaming4JC:)02:26
bonhofferGaming4JC, not found02:26
bonhofferpackage?02:26
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: hmm... let me check02:26
d33pblu3bucky: thanks!02:26
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: yeah they may have done away with the package in newer versions. lspci is for pcis and should still be there... Wikipedia has it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsusb02:27
bonhofferno ls-psci -- anyway i'm trying to set up a scanner -- just curious if it is connected02:28
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: What version of ubuntu are you using? SimpleScan should work out of the box.02:29
bonhoffer11.1002:29
billionsso, another angle then: is it possible to set the copy operation to automatically skip bad files without having to see the error dialog and click the skip button?02:29
bonhofferyeah -- no scanners detected from that app02:29
IHateHavingToRegDoes OpenSSH include SFTP or is that a separate package?02:29
bonhofferi have virtualbox with windows to load the scanner software02:29
d33pblu3bucky: any other ideas/channels I could try?02:29
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: and you have the virtualbox extras installed to enable usb?02:30
Gaming4JCit's a package from the VBox website02:30
buckyd33pblu3, the xeon has EIST to allow the system to dynamically adjust processor voltage and core frequency to decrease the average power consumption and heat production. are you checking when there is a steady high load on the server02:31
bonhoffernot sure -i'll get that -- i have guest additions, do i need more?02:31
bonhofferanyway -- it would be good to know what linux sees02:31
d33pblu3bucky: nope, there's ~nothing running.02:31
buckyd33pblu3, thats why02:31
d33pblu3bucky: hm?02:32
buckyd33pblu3, and it's only designed to run at 2.26GHz anyway02:32
alpha-aquilae1I can't line in record using sound recorder, I am under 10.04 and I have sound recorder 2.30, any help?02:32
d33pblu3bucky: I'm trying to scale it down.02:32
TREESofRIGHTEOUSHey, I need help reporting a Kernel regression. It happened in the transition between 10.04 and 10.1102:32
buckyd33pblu3, that would be done in the bios if at all02:33
varun06could not open selected VM debug port(8700), getting this massage everytime I open eclipse with ADT plugin02:33
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d33pblu3bucky: hmmm. so, i've tweaked the scheduler so that if i have heterogeneous cores (say 3 at 2.26 and 1 at 1.8), I/O bound processes get migrated to that. that's sort of the "grand project." I guess I'll just poke the cpufreq stuff in the kernel02:34
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: yes the extension pack via http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.6/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.1.6-74713.vbox-extpack   | and you also need to add yourself to the vbox usergroup. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB02:34
buckyd33pblu3, are you saying the EIST (amd equiv = Cool 'n Quiet)02:34
stepnjump\Hi guys, I am wondering if there is a way to cp a dir with chmod permissions of 444 (drrr) on another sdx without having to change the permissions first?02:34
buckyd33pblu3, are you saying the EIST (amd equiv = Cool 'n Quiet) isn't working?02:35
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: I'm puzzled lsusb isn't working for you.02:35
woogii'm running ubuntu 11.10.  using gparted, i show 5 partitions: 2 are 1 meg each unallocated; the other 3 show to be ntfs. i'm confused on which i shld format to get rid of widows. one ntfs has a mount point of /host, the other 2 no mount point but arec labeled recovery and system reserved. which wld be ubuntu?02:35
jakrI click on 'dash home' and type in my program's name. I click on the icon and NOTHING HAPPENS02:36
buckyd33pblu3, there might be a kernel option specifically for that if that is the case, the gentoo guys live in that world02:36
d33pblu3bucky: ah02:36
Gaming4JCbonhoffer: Might be of interest to you http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-get-hardware-information-in.html02:36
d33pblu3bucky: interesting. i'll go poke them. =)02:36
TREESofRIGHTEOUSPlease, I would like help reporting this issue of the kernel regression because I would like to use the newer versions of Ubuntu.  Anyone have any info?????02:38
jakrhow can i use dash home to start a program that I cannot find the files to.  In windows I know to look for programs in "program files". what is the equavalent for ubuntu02:38
Gaming4JC!bugs | TREESofRIGHTEOUS02:39
ubottuTREESofRIGHTEOUS: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:39
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jakr^02:40
billionsis the ubuntu file copy operation dialog just a fronted to the cp command?02:40
TREESofRIGHTEOUSI don't run the newer versions because I cannot (without acpi=off)... so do I need to install it to report  ubuntu-bug linux02:41
Gaming4JCTREESofRIGHTEOUS: yes you would need to file a bug with your system configuration and try to triage it down to what exactly is breaking02:41
Gaming4JCyou can also try ...02:42
Gaming4JC!dev02:42
ubottuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment02:42
Gaming4JC:)02:42
drums23hi02:46
TREESofRIGHTEOUSalright....thanks for your help!!02:46
drums23i have been trying to join #ubuntu @ irc.ubuntu.com with irssiiirssi02:46
drums23but i keep getting Errorneous username messages02:47
drums23has anyone ever dealt with this02:47
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cpgoubuntu 11.04 or 10.04.3 ?02:50
cpgowere the font rendering changes applied to 10.04? or was that 10.10 and on?02:51
woogiwindows crashed and burned to a cinder, and i want to format it from my hd. will someone pls help me understand what partition i need to format? i'm using gparted. 2 partitions are unallocated and 3 say ntfs. i'm on ubuntu right now and don't understand why everything is ntfs.02:51
burnthey, can I get my date on the pannel to display dd/mm/yyy rather than short date like format02:51
burntmany thanks02:52
drums23ntfs are windows partitions02:53
woogii know02:53
urlin2uwoogi, your in a ubuntu install, and you see only ntfs partitions correct?02:53
woogino02:53
drums23so if you want to completely erase everything on that drive and reinstall windows you can just do it by using the windows installer cd  - it will format it then as well02:54
wooginot in an install at all02:54
woogii want tro get RID of windows...not reinstall it02:54
nrdbatm the <alt> key can be used to drag a window without using the title bar... the key used, could be configured in previous versions   , I can't find anywhere to change it with this new install... With ccsm I completly disabled the 'Move Window' plugin... in gconf-editor I found some entries for compiz->move, I changed those... but the <alt> can still move the window... how do I change the key or turn it off all together?02:54
urlin2uwoogi, delete it then in gparted02:55
drums23ok well if you have to use gparted then you can recreate ntfs partitions for Windows or exf3 for ubuntu but02:55
woogibut which is windows and which is ubuntu? the parts all say they're ntfs02:55
woogii want to keep ubuntu02:55
drums23hmmm...so you had ubuntu running on windows?02:56
cpgodoes anyone know which version of ubuntu was shipped with the new truetype font rendering (after the patents expired)02:56
urlin2uwoogi, did you install a wubi ubuntu ?02:56
woogion the same drive, yes02:56
woogiyepeers02:56
drums23i dont know anything about wubi. sorry.02:56
drums23: )02:56
burnthey, can I get my date on the panel to display dd/mm/yyyy rather than short date like format02:56
woogiyes, it's a wibi installation02:56
urlin2uwoogi, you can't delete the windows and keep the wubi, kt is a file in windows, if trhat is what you have .02:56
woogiwubi =)02:56
urlin2ukt=it02:56
woogiand windows crashed so bad hat it wont even run. i ned to get it off my drive and have just ubuntu fo rmy os02:58
drums23does wubi create a type of image file of some sort that it runs ubutun off?02:58
burntcan someone please help me02:58
burntta02:58
DaZdrums23: pretty much02:58
twocarloburnt:you cant02:58
drums23ahh..what if you copy that image and all other files and reinstall wubi on another Windows ..would those files still run?02:59
drums23thats worth a try...?02:59
DaZdrums23: if you add the right lines to boot.ini it should work, imho03:00
woogiso...what can i do to have nothing but ubuntu on my drive? do i create a startup disk and format my drive, then use my sd to install ubuntu on the clean drive?03:01
drums23woogi.,,do you have another working windows system?03:01
woogino i dont03:01
saltyburnt, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780676 try this03:01
drums23what other system do you have?03:01
woogii have windows 7 (crashed hard) and what i'm running now, ubuntu03:01
woogibut gparted shows all my partitions are ntfs03:02
woogicrazy, that03:02
burntah thanks03:02
burntwhere is /apps/03:02
urlin2uwoogi, did you install ubuntu from windows?03:02
woogiyes03:02
woogiwubi installation03:03
drums23i dont know much about wubi but maybe you can research wubi more and figure out if you can copy the installation from that drive onto another windows and then run it successfully03:03
urlin2uwoogi, then it is a wubi it is a file inside of windows.03:03
saltyburnt it's in gcon-editor03:03
saltygconf*03:03
woogiso how do i get rid of windows and have ubuntu only on hd?03:04
drums23no..03:04
drums23dont get rid of windows yet..03:04
woogihuh?03:04
burntah im new, was looking for /apps/ in root03:04
drums23because you want to find out if you can save your wubi ubuntu installation files, right?03:04
burntconfused there for a second03:04
woogiwindows wont even runm03:04
burntthanks03:04
woogirun03:04
saltynp03:04
bodohhoi .. it's me bodoh .. the one with that stoopid root's uid issue03:05
bodohnow I'm in puppy linux03:05
saltywe all were new at one time or another03:05
woogiwindows is out of there. toast03:05
bonhofferwhat is the preferred program in ubuntu to turn a cd into an iso03:05
saltybrasero03:05
bonhofferthanks!03:05
saltyyw03:05
drums23right...windows wont run. but your wubi ubuntu is still there. maybe you can research more on what you can do to save wubi installations from one drive and transfer them on another03:05
* ryanCH converts salty into an ISO03:06
saltyyes03:06
urlin2uwoogi, take a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151935403:06
saltyi copy disk to iso file03:06
saltylol03:06
ryanCHyes, yes you do.03:06
saltyi just got it....lol...03:07
* salty is a slow leak03:07
cpgois it possible to update libfreetype6 to version 2.4.x in ubuntu 10.0403:07
woogiurlin2u: thanks. am looking at it right now.03:07
ryanCHanything is possible.03:07
cpgo:)03:08
urlin2uwoogi, cool no problem.03:08
cpgonot quite ;)03:08
ryanCHWell, i can make PI equal a different number other than 3.14159 ... just by tweaking the laws of physics.03:09
goddardcan anyone help me troubleshoot some graphics issues?03:09
brueniggoddard: jean-luc?03:09
drums23anyways...i am having a hard time getting webmin to download off the main site and its mirror site. i keep getting connection errors when using wget. since im new to ubuntu server, could i mount a file on virtualbox (since its a virtual server) and run the installation off there?03:09
bruenigwebmin is insecure, stop using it03:10
drums23...:(...03:10
drums23how so?03:10
ryanCHyeah use, bruenig instead.03:10
cpgoryanCH: how sure are you it will work?03:10
ryanCHcpgo: was ist das?03:11
cpgoryanCH: ?03:11
drums23how is webmin insecure03:11
ryanCHcpgo: was ist das - what is that?03:11
ryanCH;p03:11
goddardits an Nvidia issue03:11
ryanCH(german) sorry ;p03:11
cpgoryanCH: what is libfreetype6?03:11
ryanCHfont03:11
woogiurlin2u, where do get the wubi move file?03:12
cpgolol.. I'm lost03:12
OerHekscpgo, libfreetype6-udeb (2.4.2-2) is available in Maverick 10.10  not sure how you could use that version03:12
woogi=)03:12
cpgo:S thats the version that makes font rendering bearable under linux (for me)03:13
urlin2uwoogi, I think there is a link on the thread let me look.03:13
cpgoso do I go with 10.10 or 11.0403:13
cpgowhich would be more stable03:13
ryanCH11.0403:14
raws_rawsnow its good03:14
raws_rawssee you soon03:14
raws_rawsgotta run for a bit03:14
drums23im sure all versions are "stable"03:14
DaZ"stable" :303:14
ryanCHall stable releases are stable ;p03:14
cpgoheh03:14
drums23thats what i meant...?03:15
ServerTechLaptopEncrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering pass.03:15
drums23DaZ what do you mean :3??03:15
cpgoi mean stable, not "stable"03:15
woogii looked and cldn't find one03:15
drums23lol03:15
ryanCHdrums23: perhaps.. ;p03:15
saltycpgo 2.3.11 is the highest i see for your distro03:15
drums23jesus christ if any "stable" version of ubuntu isnt stable..then idk what is...03:15
urlin2uwoogi, you see it in the first post? Notice the pre made partition for the tranfer to go to as well, it would be a ext4 type partition needed.03:15
woogity =)03:16
drums23woogi why cant you just repair windows03:16
drums23its easy03:16
DaZeither i'm dividing "stable" by three, or it's an emoticon :x03:16
cpgodo you know if the new truetype rendering is in that version salty, or if its possible for me to build from src in 10.0403:17
lowtaxubuntu blows03:17
neersightedmy nicklist just blew up03:17
neersightedeffin trolls03:17
drums23but this is an ubuntu channel?03:17
woogidont want windows, drum03:17
drums23woogi then just redoo everything!03:17
saltythe binaries only seem to go to 2.3.11 but let me check on building from source03:17
drums23why are you trying to save that wubin ubuntu install if ur going to run ubuntu ?????03:18
drums23wow...so weird..03:18
woogithe very fact it crashed like it did for no apparent reason is reason 'nuff =)03:18
saltycpgo try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype03:18
* DaZ is interested in what happened to that wubi install, and is way too lazy to scroll through all the logs ;x03:18
urlin2udrums23, the wubi is a file it is ubuntu, it will transfer and be a regular install.03:19
drums23i hope that even if you figure out how to save that wubi install that you dont try to figure out how to run that install as the default os on the newly reformated drive03:19
lexvegasAnyone know _Why_ Ubuntu opts to have caps lock off at boot? I know how to fix it with numlockx, but it is annoyging to do every time i install03:19
woogii'm not trying to save windows, else i wldn't be trying to find out how to format it off my drive.  wow, so weird of you to think that03:19
drums23i didnt know that url03:19
drums23so it becomes an installer??03:20
cpgothanks salty installing now, ill see if it owrks03:20
saltyok let us know03:20
saltybrb... need more coffee03:21
drums23...i think woogi needs to explain what his goal is03:21
woogilol...to get rid of windows and save ubuntu as my my sole os03:22
drums23...03:22
drums23is that even possible?03:22
DaZseems doable03:22
woogiwhy not?03:22
drums23it sounds daunting03:23
drums23to turn that image from windows into a full os ..and since ur windows stopped working..how will you activate that process?03:23
MTecknologydrums23: I don't have windows anywhere in my network03:23
lexvegaswoogi, use DD or something similar to do a total backup, boot into ubuntu with a live cd and restort that backup to a new partition.03:23
lexvegasjust a thought03:23
DaZcopy it somewhere else, try if it's normal binary image and dd it onto the physical drive :f03:24
MTecknologyweiyang: you want basically a backup copy?03:24
woogibut with windows out of service, i'm thinking my only option is to make a startup disk, format my drive, then use the sd to install ubuntu back to my drive03:24
drums23...03:24
MTecknologywoogi: you want basically a backup copy?03:24
drums23woogi. just forget about that wubi. install unbutu fully from scratch03:24
woogihell if i know =) else i wldn't be here wasting y'all's time03:25
lexvegasdoes wubi use a .vdi for the virtual drive?03:25
drums23no idea..03:25
Jordan_Ulexvegas: No. A simple ext4 filesystem.03:25
MTecknologywoogi: what is it you're trying to accomplish? take windows off and put ubuntu on?03:26
DaZit has to be something readable from windows bootloader imho03:26
lexvegasthat foils a plan of mine. :/03:26
drums23his windows OS failed. he wants to find his wubi ubuntu install and turn that into his main OS from that same drive...03:26
lexvegaswoogi, is the windows install dead?03:26
MTecknologyoooooh03:27
MTecknologyouch03:27
hasufelli am a pretty fairy and i want someone to make love to me03:27
woogiyes. sorta. i'm running ubuntu right now. windows crashed today and won't do squat. so all i want to do is remove windows. but all my file systems show to be ntfs. so that means (i guess) that ubuntu is running from somewhere inside windows. all i want to do is make my hd os ubuntu only.03:27
weiyangMTecknology, talking with me?03:28
MTecknologyweiyang: wrong tab complete, sorry03:28
hasufellubuntu is running from somewhere inside windows? wtf???03:28
drums23he used gparted to look at his partitions..he has only 3 ntfs partitions so his ubuntu install is not in any way recoverable by just erasing windows. he would need to figure out how to copy wubi  files and the ubuntu image that he has and convert that onto a main OS by means of more research...03:28
saltywoogie can you burn a livecd?03:28
weiyangMTecknology, :)03:28
MTecknologywoogi: wubi makes ubuntu run from inside windows03:29
woogito a stick ui can. yes.03:29
woogii03:29
drums23woogi..lol..rebuild ubuntu?03:29
hasufellwho is wookie?03:29
drums23its easy03:29
woogii kmnow. that's why all my file systems show to be ntfs03:29
saltythen that would be my thing to do03:29
drums23lol ikr03:29
MTecknologywoogi: if you can boot into the ubuntu install, then copy your home directory to an external drive, reinstall from scratch, copy home directory back, reinstall your apps, live happy03:30
drums23whats inside that wubi ubuntu install, woogi?03:30
mkjackson_mobilehey folks, I'm trying to run my Ubuntu on my thumb drive but to improve performance I tried to put the /tmp directory on the tmpfs, after that the system started getting random crashes03:30
saltythe live disk will reformat your drives03:30
MTecknologydrums23: you can grab package selections from syaptic too03:30
DaZwoogi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide there seems to be the guide how to migrate it.03:30
lexvegaswoogi, I have it! Use an ubuntu CD to backup the WUBI file. Then, temporarily install windows again. Reinstall wubi, but replace the WUBI file with the one you just backed up after youre done. Then, use ubuntu to backup your /home/ and do a fresh install of ubuntu. Replace the /home/ with the one you backed up03:30
MTecknologywoogi: you can grab package selections from syaptic too03:31
mkjackson_mobileI then found a link that showed a script that would (I assumed) fix the problem but then the system wouldn't boot at all... any suggestions?03:31
MTecknologydrums23: sorry, guess i'm tired and hilighting poorly03:31
woogidunno. cant access windows b/c it crashed today. lucky i still have this ubuntu running03:31
drums23lex...thats ultimately what he would need to do but thats only if he has important files on that03:31
xangua!tab | drums2303:32
ubottudrums23: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:32
LinoSPsomeone knows how to extract   numbers of this file "/proc/meminfo" I only wanna extract numbers and send it to a file "/home/cantmem" I trying with this03:32
LinoSPhead -1 /proc/meminfo | cut -s -n -d: -f2 > /home/cantmem03:32
lexvegasdrums23, I'm assuming he does if he wants to rescue03:32
hasufellill call in a chopper03:32
drums23i assume that too03:32
urlin2udrums23, MTecknology there is a script to transfer the wubi to a partition as a regular install I posted it for woogi here is the script  https://github.com/bcbc/Wubi-move03:33
DaZLinoSP: cat /proc/meminfo|awk '{print $2}' ? :x03:33
hasufelli dont like wookies03:33
saltywoogi, make a live disk and boot from there and backup what you want and then install on the next boot03:33
drums23then what he should then do is find out if its possible to even load any of those wubi ubuntu installs on Ubuntu itself and then just copy files over...03:33
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saltyif he backs everything into a iso or tar file woogi can extract what is wanted03:34
urlin2uwoogi, you get the script address https://github.com/bcbc/Wubi-move03:34
viewerhow can change the name that a drive mounts as?03:35
drums23xangua...what was that?03:35
DaZviewer: elaborate? :x03:35
hasufellman mount03:36
hasufell:D03:36
saltymtab or fstab i think viewer03:36
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DaZunless he wants the volume name :f03:36
LinoSPDaZ: it works  but i need to do it with cut  , head, tail commands :P03:36
saltywants to change it03:36
DaZlolwhy03:36
viewerDaZ, it was just the filesystem label, I found a setting in Disk Uitility.  THanks03:36
drums23earlier there was a user that said webmin was insecure..but he didnt respond to why..03:37
drums23does anyone use webmin, here?03:37
drums23i mean, does anyone on here use webmin03:37
Flannel!webmin | drums2303:38
ubottudrums23: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.03:38
evilwombatHello. I filed a bug where Ubuntu is corrupting external storage devices during suspend, but the person triaging the problem didn't seem to understand the gravity of the situation. So, what is the cleanest way to disable the automounter, or to prevent suspend from succeeding if external devices are mounted?03:38
drums23oh03:38
drums23...thats just ...not right.03:38
saltylol03:38
drums23its such a good development...:(03:39
saltyispconfig is something to look into drums2303:39
saltyISPConfig303:39
itaylor57!webmin | drums2303:40
ubottudrums23: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.03:40
drums23is that some sort of quick reply?03:40
ViperVenomHello I'm new to using linux. I'm currently using Windows 7 and tried installing the Windows Installer from Ubuntu, but when I restart and choose Ubuntu from the boot menu it comes up with an error. If you could PM or query me it would be easier to see which messages are directed to me instead of the lobby, thanks.03:40
xanguaViperVenom: or you could try a real install03:41
MahaVishnuViperVenom, yea just download a real .iso now that its screwed anyway03:41
ravensshfs/fuse mounted remote ssh folder in /home/user/remote using sudo - "permission denied" now - how to access it03:41
itaylor57 Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality.  See <free whcp> for alternatives.03:41
ubottuDebian bug 343897 in ftp.debian.org "ftp.debian.org: Please remove all webmin related packages" [Wishlist,Open]03:41
ravensshfs/fuse mounted remote ssh folder in /home/user/remote using sudo - "permission denied" now - how to access it03:43
drums23wow wtf03:44
drums23,...and that was in 200503:44
drums23thanks for that link03:44
dr_williswhy did you yse sudo with sshfs?03:44
jakri asked an hour ago to no response.  This will be the last time I ask it.03:47
ravensshfs/fuse mounted remote ssh folder in /home/user/remote using sudo - "permission denied" now - how to access it03:47
jakrWhy is there no response when i click on an app i from dash home03:47
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dr_willisraven why did you use sudo with sshfs?03:48
drums23but its not 2005 anymore03:48
ravendr_willis, without root no access to /dev/fuse03:48
drums23so i will still use webmin03:48
dr_willisjakr:  so dash is basically not launching anythig03:48
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jakrdr_willis: no it will launch most programs.03:49
dr_willisraven:  you need to have your users in the fuse group i recall. this is the default normally.03:49
ravendr_willis, i added the user to the fuse group03:50
dr_willisand did you log them out/back in?03:50
xMopxHey. My root (only) partition has gone read-only right after a fresh install. How can I fix this?03:50
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drums23or ill look into cpanel..03:52
nhochthow to login Facebook on ubuntu?03:52
dr_willisxMopx:  last i saw that - it was a hard drive failing issue. check your dmesg output.03:52
dr_willisgotta run. beck in 30 min03:52
dr_willisbbl03:53
urlin2unhandler, don't use it but like any other OS.03:53
xMopxdr_willis: will do. HD is probably OK though. It's  a fairly new SSD that another partition boots just fine (OSX)03:53
ravendr_willis, solved right now - i simple forgot to relogin sry for that ;)03:53
nhochthow to login Facebook on ubuntu?03:54
MahaVishnuxMopx, dmesg | grep ata03:54
xanguanhocht: open firefox and go to facebook.com03:54
nhochtnot done03:54
xMopxMahaVishnu: ill have that in a sec. booting it back up (which is strangely slow)03:57
nhochthow to login Facebook on ubuntu?03:59
xMopxMahaVishnu: What sort of message should I be looking for?03:59
MahaVishnunhocht, someone told you already ?03:59
jatooI'm trying to use the program "xindy" on Ubuntu Server 10.04.3, but I can't install it: "Package xindy is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:59
jatooThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package xindy has no installation candidate".  Does anyone know why this might be?  Or how I can fix it?03:59
MahaVishnuxMopx, errors, you can pastebin it if you like, did it boot in to ro mode again ?03:59
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xMopxMahaVishnu: yeah, its booting to cmd prompt and i have no (quick) way to get the text off of it04:00
xMopxthe only thing that looks remotely looks like an error is....04:00
nhochthow to login Facebook on ubuntu?04:00
nhochthow to login Facebook on ubuntu?04:00
nhochthow to login Facebook on ubuntu?04:00
FloodBot1nhocht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:00
xMopx"Lost interrupt: Status 0x59"04:00
xMopxand "This should not happen! Data will be lost" immediately after04:01
kouelletteHello, Looking for something similar to GeekTools for Mac to run on Ubuntu.04:01
xangua!info cindy lucid | jatoo04:01
xanguabut it looks like it is on oneiric jatoo04:01
MahaVishnuxMopx, so it boots to a tty. with ro file system ?04:01
ubottujatoo: Package cindy does not exist in lucid04:01
xMopxMahaVishnu: yeah.04:01
jatoo!info cindy lucid04:01
xangua!info xindy | jatoo :P04:02
ubottujatoo :P: xindy (source: xindy): index generator for structured documents like LaTeX or SGML. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-1 (oneiric), package size 1452 kB, installed size 1564 kB04:02
jatooxangua: ok, i'm not calling it directly, it's being called (i believe) by makeglossaries04:02
jatooxangua: so i'll have to install it manually somehow?04:02
xMopxMahaVishnu: I am using 10.04.3 (older version is necessary for some specific software)04:02
xMopxif its important./04:03
ServerTechLaptopCan i use the older ubuntu ui in 11.10?04:03
saltyjatoo it says xindy is in the universe repositories04:03
xangua!gnome2 | ServerTechLaptop04:04
ubottuServerTechLaptop: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot). See !notunity for an alternative desktop experience.04:04
czardoz!notunity04:04
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic04:04
ServerTechLaptop!notunity04:04
jpmhI have a brand new computer - lap top that I want to put ubuntu on - I have a memoryt stick that boots and runs live perfectly - the computer has Win7.  I am not being offered the option to install and preserve Windoze - why not?04:04
xMopxMahaVishnu: fsck says the FS is clean too. Rebooting just brings me back to the same thing though :/04:04
coolstarDoes anyone here know how to output to a console from an NPAPI plugin in firefox?04:04
ServerTechLaptop._. could you work that out?04:04
saltyjatoo sorry it says it was deleted04:05
MahaVishnuxMopx, yea I was about to tell you to try that hrm.04:05
ServerTechLaptop!notunity | ServerTechLaptop04:05
ubottuServerTechLaptop, please see my private message04:05
coolstarThe plugin I'm making will be open source and will help ubuntu or any linux user in general. (It will not be for Mac or Windows)04:05
MahaVishnuxMopx, did you find errors in dmesg? if not just try a ... sudo mount -o remount,rw04:06
jatoosalty: why would it have been deleted?04:06
nhochtoh04:06
nhochtmy god04:06
nhochtdd04:06
nhochtshit04:06
coolstarAnyone?04:06
nhochtdcm04:06
nhochtchung may04:06
nhochtim mom de04:06
FloodBot1nhocht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:06
saltyi'm reading that jatoo hold on04:06
xMopxMahaVishnu: Nothing that would looks clearly like an error at all. Its rebooting after I fscked, I will try that when it comes back.04:07
urlin2ujpmh, open gparted and look how many partitions are shown, imagebin it as well probably.04:07
nhocht./join ##game04:07
jpmhurlin2u: and then what?04:07
MahaVishnuxMopx, nothing like ATA and SSconnection reset or DRTY error type things?04:07
urlin2ujpmh, there are partition amount limitations we are looking at that.04:08
xMopxxMopx: Yeah, nothing. Ill look again if i should look for those specific things04:08
jpmhurlin2u: also - is gparted on the live - I think I will need to do parted won't I?04:08
urlin2ujpmh, it is on the live cd04:08
saltyjatoo start here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/xindy04:09
jpmhurlin2u: booting right now04:09
jpmhurlin2u: so, what are we going to look for?04:09
xMopxMahaVishnu: "ata1: lost interrupt (Status 0x50)"04:10
urlin2ujpmh, cool, many manufacturers send out the computers with 4 primaries which in a standard mbr set up is the max, but ubuntu will go in a extended.04:10
saltyjatoo it seems that it was no longer compatible unless you rebuilt it from source04:10
MahaVishnuxMopx, do you have a bunch of soft resets ?04:10
urlin2ujpmh, the rule is 4 primaries or 3 primaries and a extended.04:11
jatoosalty: i see... so, does this mean i'll need to build it from source myself?04:11
jpmhurlin2u: yep - that is the case - so now how do we get past that?04:11
xMopxMahaVishnu: I saw those scroll by as its booting (I turned off quiet splash) but i havent spotted any. Ill grep when its done04:11
saltytry that link that was in that page... they seemed to have rebuilt another bianry of the app04:11
MahaVishnuxMopx, you can also check /var/log/syslog with cat04:11
urlin2ujpmh, pastebin a svreen shot of gparted, you want to use the windows virtual partitioner to resize the ntfs's04:11
xMopxAlright.04:11
MahaVishnuxMopx, it would be weird for an ssd to fail though wouldn't it?04:12
urlin2u!imagebin | jpmh04:12
ubottujpmh: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.04:12
xMopxMahaVishnu: Yeah. I only got it this summer, too.04:12
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saltyjatoo, yes you'll have to build from source ... it's dependencies will have to be met04:13
urlin2ujpmh, have you done a backup of the windows yet?04:13
jatoosalty: sigh... ok.  latex is always a nightmare!  thanks for your help!04:13
saltynp and yw04:14
jatoosalty: oh, where did you find that information, btw?04:14
jpmhurlin2u: the windoze is brand new - so we can always recover if we need to - onky reason I want to keep it is in case of a warranty call - do not intend to use it04:14
saltyjatoo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/xindy/2.3-204:14
RokcStarhey i need some help. ive never installed an app from a .tar file before.04:14
xMopxMahaVishnu: It seems to of stalled here: http://i.imgur.com/gMWkA.jpg04:14
urlin2ujpmh, the ubuntu install will install grub as the bootloader you may loose the recovery or at least easy use of it.04:15
jpmhok - makes sense04:15
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RokcStari have extracted the files into a folder. i have files such as autogen.sh, configure.ac, and makefile.am. Are these files used to install the application?04:15
gmachine_24Hi. I need the command line command please to restore GRUB - it is like something grub2 ... After an Ubuntu install my Windows won't boot. Thank you.04:15
urlin2ujpmh, you want to cover you you know what. :D04:15
urlin2uyour*04:16
urlin2ugmachine_24, what can you boot to now?04:16
gmachine_24urlin2u, Ubuntu04:16
jpmhurlin2u: appreciate that - so when we have backed it upwhat are we going to do?04:16
urlin2ugmachine_24, run sudo update-grub04:16
gmachine_24urlin2u, ok. many thanks.04:17
LinoSPDaZ: Bye and thx for your help ;)04:17
urlin2ujpmh, if you have 4 partitions you will have to loose one and put a extended in, this will likely include resizing a windows partition to have room for the extended.04:17
gmachine_24urlin2u, that did it. thanks again.04:17
urlin2ugmachine_24, no problem.04:18
osadminAnyone: on the cloud controlloer (oneiric) i installed openstack-dashboard and got "Error importing middleware django_openstack.middleware.keystone" when trying to start the service. Can anyone please help me. I have looked around the web and other have the same issue. but I see no real success04:18
jpmhurlin2u: how do I know which one I can give up, I assume that one is Windoze and one is Windoze recovery, correct.?04:18
RokcStaranyone want to help. i am trying to install an application that i downloaded. there are files such as configure.ac, autogen.sh and makefile.am. How can i use these files to install the app?04:18
saltyRokcStar, is there a README file in there?04:19
RokcStaryes but its empty04:20
saltywell the simplest way to see is to run through your basic build commands04:21
MahaVishnuxMopx, it has an I/o error on a certain sector. maybe try whiping the ssd and do a fresh install ?04:21
urlin2ujpmh, you probably have a firmware and a boot partition and the recovery and windows install. generally the boot or firmware can be removed, but they can be be anywhere on the hard drive and are rather small. Trying to guide you way ahead of time completely is not the best method, other then to give you the general info.04:21
xMopxMahaVishnu: im on the second install tonight :(. First one ended up the same way, I fscked it and it didnt go anywhere so I did a second install04:21
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MahaVishnuxMopx, is ubuntu the only thing on it ?04:22
urlin2ujpmh, in other words without seeing the HD itself with a screenshot of gparted makes it harder to help.04:22
xMopxMahaVishnu: I have OSX on another partition04:22
MahaVishnuxMopx, that works fine im guessing ?04:23
xMopxMahaVishnu: Yeah. just booted back into it to test04:23
Guest42229Hi04:23
MahaVishnuxMopx, yea could be something with ext4 cause I do see something about -30 error on your macbook picture but I can't find anything about that online....04:23
MahaVishnuxMopx, what software *must* you use 10.04 for ?04:24
xMopxHmm. So reinstall using EXT2 (or 3)04:24
saltyRokcStar, usually the files that are extracted are used for build and/or installation of that app04:24
xMopxMahaVishnu: Rivendell04:24
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MahaVishnuxMopx, whats that?04:24
jpmhurlin2u: I see the small one - realistically it is obvious - the big one is widoze and the second is named as windoze recovery - so do I just convert the one that was the boot to an extended one - and resize?04:24
MahaVishnuxMopx, there is no reason ext4 shouldn't work on your system. did you let ubuntu auto partition it ?04:25
urlin2ujpmh, without a screen shot I am very uncomfortable beyond this point to be honest.04:25
xMopxMahaVishnu: Rivendell is an audio automation system. Its what some radio stations and internet radio use to control audio/imaging/ads.04:25
xMopxMahaVishnu: And I did not, I did it manually. Made the one partition, set it as ext4, checked to format it, and set mount as /.04:26
MahaVishnuxMopx, and is rivendell not in the repos for 11.10 or something ?04:26
cpgosalty: I installed the deb for 10.10 and it worked. My fonts dont look the same in 10.04 still (compared to my other pc running 10.10 - may actually be 11.04). Is there any other package I need to upgrade to get the new truetype rendering in 10.04?04:26
jpmhI am fine - i know which one - I know how to re-size - but how do I convert the one I do not need?04:26
saltycpgo let me see04:27
urlin2ujpmh, your self confidence is great but I have rules about advising without solid info.04:27
xMopxMahaVishnu: yeah. its not in the official repos, theres one out there (tryphron or something ) that has 10.04 packages04:28
jpmhurlin2u: lol - ty - your advise is all I needed I see how to convert - ty04:28
MahaVishnuxMopx, you could always just try to let ubuntu auto partition it should work next to osx ( and you could probably build rivendell from source on 11.10 ) im really not sure why it's not working. maybe to do with being a macbook somehow on 10.04 but I thought they worked fine.04:29
saltycpgo which package was that again that you installed?04:29
cpgosalty: libfreetype604:29
robin0800cpgo: if you install gnome-tweak-tool you can set font properties04:29
saltythere you go...  try that cpgo04:30
xMopxMahaVishnu: yeah its weird. Ill see what I can get working on another version tomorrow04:30
cpgorobin0800: is that for Smoothing/Hinting settings?04:30
xMopxI gotta go to bed. Thanks for the help, MahaVishnu !04:30
robin0800cpgo: yes04:30
MahaVishnuxMopx, no problem. hope you get it workng.04:30
cpgorobin0800: is that different from Appeareance->Fonts->Details?04:31
urlin2ujpmh, here is a excellent website, just be aware that if you remove the boot partition you want to install the correct boot files from a windows 7 recovery or install disc to the C partition.  http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/index.html04:31
Learnerhi, my computer crashes when launching 11.10  gives me: "Busy Box V.1.1.17.1 built-in shell (ash)"04:32
robin0800cpgo: this is for 11.10 you perhaps don't need this there is no appearance/fonts in 11.1004:32
urlin2ujpmh, we have a script you can run that will show what is where and how the boot files sit now for windows if you want.04:32
RokcStaroh man now i cant log into my profile!04:33
RokcStarits so weird! my password is not working...04:33
urlin2uRokcStar, you the only profile04:35
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Learnerhi, im having some issues...  my computer crashes when launching 11.10  gives me: "Busy Box V.1.1.17.1 built-in shell (ash)" does anybody know what it means?04:36
RokcStari think so i only set one username when i installed xubuntu04:36
RokcStari can see my username but my password doesnt work now04:36
cpgorobin0800: yea, Im on 10.04 and I want the same font rendering that 10.10+ has (after truetype patents expired)04:37
urlin2u!password04:37
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords04:37
saltycpgo have you done an update and have you allowed all the repositories to be used?04:38
abraoximeneshello04:38
urlin2uRokcStar, here is a reset link. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword04:39
idlemind324lol only seeing your response urlin2u i was omg phishing04:40
idlemind324but it's not04:40
cpgosalty: adding 10.10 repos to 10.04?04:42
cpgoor the multiverse/etc repos?04:42
RokcStaroh hey Guest accounts works04:43
saltyno... cpgo alot of times when you install something the dependencies will be added on the next update ... and some times the dependencies are in the universe multiverse and/or backport repositories04:43
Socket-Hey guys I have a mounted virtual disk: /dev/sdb1 on /media/DATA type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,allow_other,blksize=4096)  and I wondered if I should ever do maintaince on it. Does it need to be fsck'd or defragged or anything? I dont know  alot abou the fuseblk filesystem04:44
RokcStarok now this is weird...04:45
RokcStari clicked Lock on the guest account and now its asking for a passowrd but ..i dont know it..04:46
cpgosalty: ok, sec04:46
RokcStarthe username is guest-CTR7Ce04:46
arooni-mobilei have a huge folder of bit torrent downloads.  is there some way to know which are video files and filter them?  i.e. a video library app etc?  i have ebooks/audio/video in there04:47
RokcStarwhat in the world is going on with ubuntu these days i cant go back in from the screensaver onto the guest account that i clicked to go in because i couldnt go into my main profile??04:48
RokcStaroh nooo04:48
saltyRokcStar, did you install something new?04:49
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RokcStari was installing a clock application then i restarted04:49
Folkloreps isn't showing all processes04:50
Folkloreanyone know why?04:50
RokcStarthis is soo weird. why doesnt a guest user ask for a password04:50
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saltyFolklore, try 'ps aux'04:52
RokcStari hate this04:52
Folklorethx04:53
saltyyw04:53
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RokcStarthe screensaver is saying "i assume that null passwords means no password" but im trying to tell it why its even asking for a password when i didnt even put one to log into the guest account inthe first place..this is so stupid04:54
TheExplorerHello Question for anyone who understands LVM and "Soft"-Raid: Is there a way to nest disk images in a RAID0, to provide 1 of 3 redundancy?04:55
RokcStarthis definitely looks like a design flaw of xubuntu04:55
urlin2uRokcStar, I doubt it.04:55
RokcStarthen can you tell me why this is happening?04:55
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salty!password | RokcStar04:56
ubottuRokcStar: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords04:56
RokcStari clicked guest account and it let me in and after i clicked lock screen it asks me for a password and now its saying wrong password04:56
urlin2uRokcStar, I can't because I don't know every tweak you have made I suspect you don't either, do a hard shutdown and change the passwd in your account, or think maybe when you could not get in the caps lock might have been on.04:56
urlin2uRokcStar, why would you go to the guest and hit the lock screen when your own personal pasword was not working that makes no sense . :D04:57
saltyRokcStar, i have seen where peolpe accidently put spaces before the password and didn't know it04:58
RokcStari havent done anything i only just installed xubuntu04:58
RokcStarthen i updated it then i tried installing a clock app04:58
bf4648what's the best torrent in ubuntu?04:58
urlin2u!best | bf464804:58
ubottubf4648: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.04:58
bf4648as a bot?04:59
bf4648huh?04:59
pozi love you ubottu04:59
saltylol.. me too04:59
aeon-ltdbf4648: just use whatever you like within the limits of your system04:59
aeon-ltdbf4648: or use rtorrent. :)04:59
pozI have a problem04:59
RokcStarok now i am hitting restart and then i click Restart again when the window pops up and it just goes back to the login05:00
urlin2ubf4648, that is the channel bot, the 3 most choose in ubuntu are deluge, transmission, or vuze05:00
RokcStar...grrrr05:00
aeon-ltdpoz: ask, all in one line05:00
pozmy wireless will not work05:00
TheExplorerext4 for lvm-raid?05:00
bf4648well, honestly...a friend of mine recommended me one but I can't find where I wrote it down05:00
pozits grayed out05:00
pozi want to go "wireless enable" but its gray05:00
pozi am using ubuntu 11.105:00
saltypoz , is your wireless enabled?05:00
pozno05:00
pozim plugged in right now05:00
RokcStarmy password is not working. my guest account locked me out. the restart and shutdown options dont even do what theyr'e supposed to..this is so strange...05:01
bf4648ok, I'm new...deluge, transmission or vuze...are they torrents?05:01
pozi dont know what to say RokcStar. I am new here05:01
urlin2ubf4648, they are torrent apps05:01
RokcStarok i will unplug the power cord...will that ruin the system???05:02
bf4648looks like I can download them from ibtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/Download05:02
twocarlowhats the process name of firestarter firewall ?05:02
RokcStardoes unplugging the machine ruin ubuntu?05:03
bf4648http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTorrent -- interesting05:04
CoolStarRokcStar: Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+f105:04
nrdbatm the <alt> key can be used to drag a window without using the title bar... the key used, could be configured in previous versions   , I can't find anywhere to change it with this new install... With ccsm I completly disabled the 'Move Window' plugin... in gconf-editor I found some entries for compiz->move, I changed those... but the <alt> can still move the window... how do I change the key or turn it off all together?05:05
urlin2unrdb, you might try #compiz05:06
nrdburlin2u, ok05:06
urlin2unrdb, what you want is a bit cutom I think.05:06
urlin2ucustom*05:06
MahaVishnutrying to use an nvidia gefore 430 gt w/ an integrated intel 915. can someone help me set this up? right now I only see the monitor connected via vga from the 915 and no X. im sure I need so edit Xorg but not sure what to do.05:07
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CoolStarDoes Ubuntu 11.10 have support for OpenCL?05:09
CoolStarI know it has OpenGL and OpenAL, but I want to know about OpenCL05:09
urlin2uCoolStar, not sure if this answers your question. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNTg05:12
RokcStarok guys i unplugged my system but now ubuntu gets stuck05:12
sgo11hi, which application do people use to store their passwords? thanks.05:12
RokcStarall i have to say is..wow05:12
urlin2uRokcStar, funny that is what I have been saying, just out of curiosity how long have yo been using open source?05:13
urlin2uyou*05:13
RokcStari really want to be good on ubuntu and not be a noob but if ihave to go and read so many articles to fix my password and then to fix my startup problems idont think ican ever actually use it :/05:13
nrdburlin2u, costom! .... all I want to do is change the default key... it was easy to do before 'unity'05:14
RokcStarurl i used to use ubuntu when version 7 came out but now everything looks so different05:15
urlin2unrdb, compiz is a plugin in the unity desktop, I'm sure what you want is possible, I have just never seen anybody ask for it specifically, you have to have some patience and good google foo.05:16
RokcStarand i never learned commands and now with the new versions even the menus are not the same so i always feel stupid on this even to change something little ihave to go read articles05:16
urlin2uRokcStar, maybe its not for you, it does take a bit of patitnce and getting used to.05:17
JokesOnYou77Hi all.  Is there a way to list all sshfs directories currently mounted  on the local system?05:17
urlin2upatience*05:17
mattscloudWddup geeks :D05:18
RokcStarim not giving up05:20
RokcStari dont want to deal with windows anymore everything is a virus nowadays05:20
JokesOnYou77RokcStar: Never give up! never surrender!05:21
RokcStareven flash drives get viruses the computer world is so stupid now05:21
JokesOnYou77RokcStar: http://hak5.org/usb-switchblade05:22
JokesOnYou77Flash drives ARE viruses :)05:22
MahaVishnutrying to use an nvidia gefore 430 gt w/ an integrated intel 915. can someone help me set this up? right now I only see the monitor connected via vga from the 915 and no X. im sure I need so edit Xorg but not sure what to do.05:26
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: This is likely far beyond my ability, but I'll give it a shot as it seems pretty quiet at the moment.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?05:27
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: 11.1005:28
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: Ok.  And you can't get X to start at all?05:29
Abhijithi. kernel panic init not found error for kubuntu iso from usb. help05:30
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: nah it just goes back to the tty7 right now hold on ill paste my xorg.05:30
JokesOnYou77kk05:30
pozsalty!05:32
pozits not working05:32
pozdoes anyone here know how to unblock wireless?05:32
Nurse_KunSo, I want to use the Play framework for Java, yet there's already this other program called 'play' with that namespace for audio stuff in Ubuntu05:32
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: I'm using an NVidia card now, but I've never tried to use dual cards, and definitely not with an intel integrated card.  You want an extended screen, not a separate x-session on each, right?05:32
w30MahaVishnu, I got mine going by having jockey installed. It finds additional propriatory drivers for Nvidia cards and has a green button to install what it finds.05:33
pozMahaVishnu, your here?!05:33
pozi have a problem05:33
Nurse_KunHow can I uninstall the audio 'play' so I don't have a conflict with the framework Play05:33
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: hold on a minute im finishing it up.05:33
pozso i have a wireless card in my laptop, it worked the other day. not it does not. the option to enable it is grayed out05:34
poznow*05:34
JokesOnYou77w30: Did you get it to work with multiple cards?  I installed the proprietary drivers as well, but I'm afraid that would only complicate things as Maha is trying to get a dual setup going05:34
JokesOnYou77poz: I know this is silly, but have you tried restarting? Always works wonders for me05:35
pozjokesonyou77, yes, many times05:36
dr_willispoz you havent used any wireless on/off switch on the keybord?05:36
pozi even undid and redid the stuff mahavishnu told me to do the other day to fix a boot problem05:36
pozI have a wireless on/ off switch on my keybored. it also fails to work05:36
JokesOnYou77try ifconfig and see if you have a wireless interface listed05:36
pozit is listed05:37
pozwait05:37
pozits not listed there05:37
pozbut if i do iwconfig, it is listed05:37
dr_willispoz on some laptops ive had to go to windows. use the switch to make sure its on and works. then it would work in linux05:37
pozpoz@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig05:37
pozeth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:e0:91:36:b4:0e05:37
poz          inet addr:192.168.1.25  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.005:37
poz          inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:91ff:fe36:b40e/64 Scope:Link05:37
poz          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:105:37
poz          RX packets:239 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:005:37
FloodBot1poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:37
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: http://paste.ubuntu.com/767/59605:38
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: "The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist. " ???05:38
pozcan i talk now?05:39
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: 767596 sorry05:39
MahaVishnucan barely see anything on irssi05:39
pozso did that work?05:39
w30MahaVishnu, ahh... you want one monitor for each card and use them both at the same time.  Gheeze.. I don't know if you can mix up a intel and a Nvidia driver.05:39
MahaVishnuw30: I want like one screen for tty ( the intel ) and the other nvidia ( hdmi tv ) for X05:40
pozthat sounds complicated mahavishnu05:40
MahaVishnupoz: I know its my crown jewel in my setup ;\05:40
pozthanks dr_willis, ill try that05:40
Nurse_Kuncan you do that MahaVishnu ?05:40
Nurse_Kunhave one display of the tty on a screen and the other with X ?05:40
MahaVishnuidk. I don't see why not?05:40
pozwhy would you want it like that mahavishnu?05:41
Nurse_Kunwell, how would you associate the tty to the right monitor...05:41
MahaVishnupoz: cause I plau xbox on my tv ( but I can run my music from a tty with ncmpccp) so I don;'t have to switch back and forth on my tv to see what music is playing.05:41
pozwhats a tty?05:41
pozoh i see05:41
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: Ok, I've actually seen a forum post with someone trying to do exactly what you're asking, and when I read it there was no successful conclusion, but I'll bet it is possible with a little jimmying05:42
Nurse_Kunanyone know how to fix the namespace issue with play and play?05:42
Nurse_Kunjava play and sound play that is05:42
JokesOnYou77wait, couldn't you just stream music to your xbox with vuze?05:42
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77:lol thats not at all what I wan't to do.05:42
pozor buy an mp3 player?05:42
MahaVishnumy ubuntu computer is a pre amp for my amplifier.05:43
pozlol sorry, that was a bad joke05:43
canthus13bah. what's the command to show the hardware inventory? not lspci or lsusb.. the really involved one.05:43
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: Ahhhh, ok then.  this is getting more and more interesting...05:43
Nurse_Kuncanthus13: /proc/ ?05:44
Nurse_Kunit has lots of stuff in there ...05:44
Nurse_Kuncat /proc/cpuinfo for ex05:44
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: how so? the audio part is really unrelated matter.05:44
Nurse_Kunor cat /proc/05:44
canthus13Nurse_Kun: There's a command that pulls things like motherboard specs and capabilities, etc.05:44
pozso basically you have two monitors and you want a specific graphics card to be associated with each one?05:45
researcherhow do I knwo how much RAM I have? Please teach me that command line05:45
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: Well, the first step is really getting it to work at all, right? Then we would need to get a separate X server running on each card, or really on just the NVidia, right05:45
canthus13Nurse_Kun: I might be able to dig what I need out of /proc/, but this command is much neater.05:45
goddardwhats up05:45
sgo11In ubuntu software center, what is the number inside the brackets after the software name? eg: VLC Media Player (688)05:46
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: I really don't know. from what i've seen my xorg should work I thought. we need an expert.05:46
canthus13lshw. that's it.05:46
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: Well..this isn't exactly expert, but I did catch some spelling errors05:47
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: me too fixed em. such a small screen here. looking at it on my laptop now05:47
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: you fixed, EmdSubSection, and the missing quotes on line 71?05:48
pozwait, you guys are not experts?05:48
JokesOnYou77poz: not even close :P05:48
pozcompared to me you guys are05:48
JokesOnYou77poz: there are some people who have done some serious work with X, and I am definitely not one of them :P05:49
pozhow much work can be done on a letter?05:49
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: yea still doesn't work05:50
JokesOnYou77poz: The X-server is the program that creates the graphical user interface (GUI) for linux05:50
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: I am usually pretty good at X but like you said this is complicated and I don't know for certain if it's possible.05:51
pozoh i see, and tty?05:52
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: well, I'm not sure about getting X to run on only one card, but even if you cant, you can always run a single X session across both and then put a term on the laptop, right?  Or does that not work either?  And is there anything enlightening in the Xorg log?05:53
cpgoin compiz, if i remember correctly, there was a way to have a window resize to different portions of the screen (half width left, half width right, top, bottom, etc). Anyone know what its called?05:53
JokesOnYou77poz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tty_%28Unix%2905:54
w30MahaVishnu, I would think you would need two keyboards also. the Display command would be used to set things up.  DISPLAY 0:1  and Display 1:1 comes into my mind but the only thing I have ever done is set up X on my one monitor on a different tty.05:54
JokesOnYou77poz: it's also used to refer to a virtual terminal iirc05:54
JokesOnYou77cpgo: It's something like "grid" I think.  If you search for "Aero snap in Ubuntu" it will probably come up05:55
pozthanks05:55
sasankhi,guys05:56
pozcpgo, i just drag the window to which ever side i want. it resizes itself05:56
MahaVishnuw30: can I switch between the two cards then, like if i'm done on the tv switch to monitor somehow ?05:56
sasankhow can we do game programming05:56
cpgopoz.. in ubuntu?05:56
cpgothanks JokesOnYou7705:57
pozyes. its like windows 705:57
ryanCHsasank: we do it, that' how.05:57
ryanCH:)05:57
JokesOnYou77cpgo: I see in my ccsm that it is indeed called grid05:57
JokesOnYou77cpgo: welcome :)05:57
sasankwhich language is required05:57
cpgoi guess its in the extras package, I dont see it05:57
ryanCHsasank: pretty much any language can be used...05:57
ryanCHsasank: C++ usually is used.05:58
cpgopoz, doesnt work for me out of the box05:58
JokesOnYou77Now that some people are here, can anyone tell me if there is a command that will list all directories currently mounted on the local machine usinf sshfs?05:58
w30MahaVishnu, I am sure that it's done all the time on mainframes but Lord knows I am not the one to help you.05:58
pozcpgo, humm... i dunno then. i have only been using ubuntu for a few days now05:58
ryanCHsasank: using openGL or Allegro or SDL or DirectX for graphics libraries05:58
sasankrecently i had downloaded a game file and after installin it said it required a .net environment, where can i get05:59
cpgopoz, its cool, glad its working for you :)05:59
goddardwhere can i ask about Nvidia issues?05:59
* goddard has NVIDIA ISSUES!! ARGHH!!11!05:59
pozi would like a show desktop button somewhere through. minimizing many windows is annoying05:59
ryanCHsasank: you need the .net framework...  http://www.microsoft.com/net06:00
cpgopoz, there is06:00
cpgodefault bottom left06:00
JokesOnYou77goddard: you can ask here, but it looks like were a bit thin on high-power X-server expertise tonight06:00
pozubuntu 11.1?06:00
cpgoah06:00
cpgounity?06:00
sasanki need a single compiler where i can run programs of my hice or which supports any language,what is it06:00
JokesOnYou77ryanCH: can you use the .net environment in *nix?06:00
w30poz, see if you have a panel applet for show desktop.06:00
icerootJokesOnYou77: with mono, yes06:00
pozi dont know what unity is. but sometimes i see it in the help file saying that "unity does 'this"06:01
JokesOnYou77iceroot: mono?06:01
icerootJokesOnYou77: or with wine and the real .net-thing06:01
iceroot!mono | JokesOnYou7706:01
MahaVishnutrying to use an nvidia gefore 430 gt w/ an integrated intel 915. can someone help me set this up? right now I only see the monitor connected via vga from the 915 and no X. im sure I need so edit Xorg but not sure what to do.06:01
w30poz, add it if it shows one.06:01
ryanCHJokesOnYou77: it allows you to tun .NET apps on linux06:01
pozwhat is a panel applet? w3806:01
icerootJokesOnYou77: hm, mono is the open-source implementation of .net06:01
ryanCHJokesOnYou77: mono06:01
cpgopoz, I guess thats why your window reszing works, must be a feature in unity06:01
pozoh, yeah, that might be in06:02
w30poz right click on your panel and look for add06:02
theadminJokesOnYou77: Mono works great, although WinForms support is somewhat lacking (say, automatic clipboard operations do not work)06:02
JokesOnYou77Cool, thanks guys.  Linux just gets better and better lol.  Now all I need to do is properly rewrite fstab and turn my Win7 partition into a vmdk and I never have to boot directly into Windows again :)06:02
ryanCHi just stick with Java ;p06:02
sasanklearning ython or c?which is easy06:02
pozw38, is the panel the thing that slides out on the left? nothing happends when i right click it06:02
ryanCHsasank: you want C++, not C06:03
ryanCHsasank: and not python. (interpreted language)06:03
goddardJokesOnYou77: ive been trying to get ubuntu to work since 10.xx06:03
theadminJokesOnYou77: You don't have to turn it into a vmdk06:03
theadminJokesOnYou77: VirtualBox can boot real drives06:03
ryanCHsasank: are you running Windows or Linux?06:03
sasanklinux06:04
goddardhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display06:04
JokesOnYou77theadmin: I looked into that. From what I understand, running from a real partition requires first converting to a vmdk06:04
goddardJokesOnYou77: ^^ thats my question06:04
theadminryanCH: What's wrong with Python? It works great as a newbie language, though I'd suggest Ruby or Perl06:04
theadminJokesOnYou77: No, it doesn't, it boots... a partition >.<06:04
sasankwhat is trouble shooting06:04
w30poz, oops, sorry. I forgot that you are using unity. Just switch to a new desktop.06:04
ryanCHtheadmin: sasank is looking for a good Game programming language06:05
pozi guess i could get into that habit06:05
theadminJokesOnYou77: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda -filename ~/sda.vdi (next, use "sda.vdi" as your vm's hard drive. It will boot from what is infact /dev/sda)06:05
ryanCHtheadmin: compiled languages are much easier in this area ;p06:05
icerootsasank: if you dont know anything about programing dont start with a game. also its off-topic here06:05
theadminryanCH: oic06:05
pozso i have another thing i want to do. i want to access my windows 7 drive safly. is this possible?06:05
theadminsasank: You probably want GameEditor or some stuff like that if you're so new to it06:05
theadminpoz: Um, yes, Ubuntu comes with NTFS drivers06:06
ryanCHsasank: yeah start by learning C++ then go on to other things...06:06
w30poz I like rollup windows. I can look behind them that way also06:06
sasoriOT: wichi is smaller 1.2mm or 1.6mm ?06:06
theadminum, 1.2, duh06:06
sasorik, thanks l06:06
JokesOnYou77goddard: I would actually start by disabling unity.  I know some people like it, but I honestly can't stand it.  Though first I'd see if there are any proprietary drivers available, and if that doesn't fix it, try installing Xfce and using that and see if the problem persists06:06
iceroot!ot | sasori06:06
ubottusasori: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:06
cpgoi thought that was a trick question lol06:06
sasanki need a single compiler where i can run programs of any language?where can i get06:07
theadminsasank: Sorry, does not exist06:07
icerootsasank: there is nothing like that06:07
cpgosasank, netbeans has a wide range of languages06:07
w30poz,  I switched from Unity to xfce4 to avoid being associated with that abortion.06:07
dpuser07how is yesterday voteing06:08
pozw38, what abortion?06:08
sasankwhere can i get net beans06:08
theadmincpgo: netbeans ain't a compiler06:08
Cyph3rwhat's the name of the off-topic channel, again?06:08
dr_willis!ide06:08
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator06:08
theadminCyph3r: #ubuntu-offtopic06:08
pozwhat cant people stand about unity jokesonyou77?06:08
Cyph3r@theadmin, thanks06:08
cpgotheadmin, its an ide, i know, but thats what I assumed he meant06:08
theadminlol since when vim is classified as an ide?06:08
dr_willisplease no unity ranting...06:09
JokesOnYou77theadmin: can we go over that one again, slowly?  And, if there anything I need to do if my windows partition is currently mounted (and while running it also has access to a shared data partition)?06:09
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keepguessingHi ... I am trying to remote login into ubuntu 11.10 using nxclient[No Machine]. But All I see is a black screen that is not responsive. Has anyone successfully logged in into the UI of ubuntu 11.10 unity using No Machine / vnc?06:09
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theadminJokesOnYou77: Nah you need to unmount the partition for it to be bootable (actually, usable) in virtualbox06:09
sasankcan a simulation be written in a programmin language06:09
dr_williskeepguessing:  with vnc i tend to use a light wm/desktop like lxde06:10
theadminJokesOnYou77: So I also suggest adding a -partitions flag so it doesn't read the whole drive and only the partitions you need (like "... -partitions 5,3,2")06:10
poztheadmin, how can i get ubuntu to show my windows 7 files safely? some forums warn me that if ubuntu crashes while the windows 7 drive is mounted, it permanently damages windows 706:10
theadminpoz: Nonsense06:10
JokesOnYou77poz: A lot of more experienced users feel that it is too much gui and that it separates them from the more powerful utilities of the linux OS06:10
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dr_willissasank:  most all things are writen in some programing language06:10
w30poz, UNITY. I don't want to use it for the  5 years it is taking them to make it work right.06:10
MahaVishnudoes anyone know if it is possible to run Xorg on 2 video cards simultaneously (different screens)06:10
keepguessingdr_willis: thanks let me see if it works :)06:10
Brian6705I'm using Kubuntu and I have the little network traffic monitor on my desktop.  I'm noticing a steady ~50 KiB inbound traffic.  I can't figure out for the life of me what is causing it.  I just rebooted in hopes it was a phantom connection. How can I figure this out?06:10
sasanki need  netbeans in offline ?where can i get06:10
Cyph3rQuestion: I'm configuring CCSM, and I've run into a problem I've never gotten before...i have the "cube" until I enable "Cube reflection and deformation", where it turns into a cylinder (even though the mode is set to "None", which is the cube)06:11
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  should be possible06:11
icerootsasank: from there website06:11
theadminBrian6705: Um, netstat might help06:11
pozlol oh i see06:11
fish__Hello! How can i remove or hide the dash in 11.10?06:11
theadminfish__: You need to change Unity to another desktop, e.g. XFCE06:11
MahaVishnudr_willis: can you look at my xorg and tell me what im doing wrong ?06:11
pozi am not sure what unity is, but so far i like ubuntu06:12
Brian6705theadmin, thanks.  I knew I was forgetting something simple06:12
sachin1112i am having network problems with my ununtu 1.0406:12
sachin1112ca anyone help?06:12
pozme too sachin111206:12
pozbut i can not help06:12
JokesOnYou77theadmin: ok, the windows system partition is set to automount at boot, it's at /windows, how do I unmount?06:12
fish__theadmin: How? Im kinda new with Ubuntu.06:12
sasankare any competitions based on any programmin language held06:12
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  most likely i wont be able to tell. i just used the nvidia settings tool normally06:12
keepguessingdr_willis: I see that lxde is a complete different desktop environment. I wanted to know if something worked with unity/kubuntu.06:13
theadminfish__: Meh then, I suggest you just download and install Xubuntu, will work better for you06:13
MahaVishnudr_willis: when I enable my intel chip in the bios, ubuntu makes it take over ( i had a config from nvidia-tool ) and it uses the intel chip and I get no X06:13
A_J*waves at dr_willis / theadmin *06:13
cpgodoes anyone know which packages are responsible for font rendering (besides libfreetype6)?06:13
theadminyo A_J06:13
sasankdoes simulation programs require any hardware intrepreter06:13
theadmincpgo: xft probably06:13
theadmincpgo: Or whatever the package is called06:13
icerootsasank: its offtopic here as already said06:13
theadmincpgo: And xfs (the X Font Server)06:14
pozwho is going to help me get my windows 7 files mounted?06:14
dr_williskeepguessing:  a lot of the time its the special compisiting effects of unity and kde, that can break and slow down vnc and nx. thats why i use lxde on them06:14
MahaVishnupoz: look up /etc/fstab windows 706:14
theadminpoz: wtf is your problem anyway? mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdxy /media/win06:14
poztheadmind is mean :(06:15
garden92anyone know where i can download vmware player 4 for linux?06:15
cpgothank you theadmin06:15
sasankwhat's difference btwn writin pograms and coding programs06:15
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  if you are using one of those optimus nvidia/intel combo laptops.. ive no ideas. you are lucky they even work at all. ;)06:15
theadminsasank: None, bah, ask somewhere else, this is NOT related to Ubuntu06:15
icerootsasank: stop offtopic here!!06:15
theadminJeebus06:15
MahaVishnudr_willis: no its a desktop . intel core i3. integrated 915 video / nvidia gefore gt430 hdmi pciexpress.06:15
theadmin(s)he's annoying >.<06:15
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  ive only done it with 2 nvidia cards06:16
icerootsasank: #programming, ##c++, ##c, #python, #perl, #bash, #java06:16
keepguessingdr_willis: giving ur suggestion a try :)06:16
MahaVishnudr_willis: fair enough. but why does the intel chip take over causing me to lose any X at all when I enable it in the bios, thus not allowing me to use nvidia-tool or whatever.06:16
dr_williskeepguessing:  i vnc using lxde all the time. not like i need fancy desktop for a vnc session06:17
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  no idea06:17
sasankdoes bootin any operatin system in pc requires some procedure06:17
MahaVishnudr_willis: ok. guess its just like someone told me before it's not compatible to use intel+nvidia modules? anyway thanks for the info. ill have to try again some time.06:17
theadminsasank: It needs a bootloader06:17
pozpoz@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdxy /media/win06:17
poz[sudo] password for poz:06:17
pozntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdxy': No such file or directory06:17
pozthat failed06:18
PeddyI have deleted the contents of some files, fortunately I have made a backup,  how can I restore those individual files? Thanks!06:18
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  i have used onbord nvidia + nvidia pcie card befor06:18
theadminpoz: Duh, replace "sdxy" with something like "sda1" or whatever your windows partition is06:18
sasankis it hardware or software06:18
pozhow do i figure out what my windows partition is?06:18
theadminpoz: Is it labelled?06:18
udaypoz : use dmesg command tofigure the partition06:18
icerootpoz: depending how you did the backup06:18
dr_willis!mount | poz06:18
ubottupoz: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount06:18
icerootpoz: sorry wrong nick06:18
MahaVishnudr_willis: well. I have seperate "device" "screen" and "monitor" sections. but nothing happens when I start lightdm. it just switches me to tty7 where are the x log files kept at again ?06:18
Cyph3rQuestion: I'm configuring CCSM, and I've run into a problem I've never gotten before...i have the "cube" until I enable "Cube reflection and deformation", where it turns into a cylinder (even though the mode is set to "None", which is the cube). Any ideas06:18
theadminPeddy: What kind of backup?06:19
icerootPeddy: depending how you did the backup06:19
dr_willisMahaVishnu:  /var/log normally06:19
sasankwhere can i download netbeans06:19
theadminsasank: Their site.06:19
icerootsasank: from there website06:19
icerootsasank: as already said06:19
Peddytheadmin, iceroot, It was the included backup tool in 11.10 (I think the backend is duplicity?)06:19
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ganimedepoz if you dont know your windows partition number, install gparted to have a look at them06:19
icerootPeddy: deja-dup i guess06:19
sasankis it free06:19
pozoh ok06:19
theadminPeddy: umm... Oh, sorry, I'll pass there, I haven't used Ubuntu since 10.0406:19
Peddytheadmin, no worries06:20
ganimedepoz but just look, dont mess with that tool06:20
icerootPeddy: at restore you can define to put everything in a specal folder, there you can pick up the files you need06:20
Peddyiceroot, i am looking at that command now06:20
Peddyiceroot, oh yeah, but I just want one or two files that need to be restored06:20
Peddyiceroot, and I don't have the hard disk space to make an entire restoration of my home drive06:20
theadminsasank: Just google it already and you'll find your answers06:21
icerootPeddy: never used the restore-function but as it seems you only can restore everyathing06:21
pozpoz@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/win06:21
pozMount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.06:21
pozThe volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which06:21
pozcould be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.06:21
FloodBot1poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:21
pozim sorry floodbot106:21
theadminpoz: Sounds like this drive is already mounted... Open the filemanager and see if you can find it06:21
Peddythanks iceroot. I seem to remember a command in nautilus' context menu when clicking on a file, that was like "restore previous version" - but it's gone now06:21
theadminPeddy: Um, you might be confusing nautilus with Windows Explorer06:22
sasankwher can i get c++06:22
icerootsasank: sudo apt-get install g++06:22
pozi dont know where to find it06:22
theadminsasank: You don't "get" c++, you get a c++ compiler. Ubuntu comes with one, it's called g++06:22
ganimedesasank, install the gcc suite06:22
Peddytheadmin, nope, I don't run or use windows that much06:22
pozin the file system somewhere?06:22
theadminpoz: Um, okay, pastebin the output of "mount | grep /dev/sda2"06:23
ganimedesasank on a second though, it should be already on your computer. type Ctrl+Alt+T and then "g++ --version"06:23
pozpoz@ubuntu:~$ mount | grep /dev/sda206:23
poz/dev/sda2 on /host type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)06:23
theadminpoz: There it is, it's in /host06:23
sasankwhere can i get gcc suite06:23
iceroot!repos | sasank06:23
ubottusasank: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories06:23
theadminsasank: in APT. You were told A THOUSAND OF GODDAMN TIMES06:24
theadminGosh, this is so annoying >.<06:24
theadminOfftopic and silly06:24
pozomg yes!06:24
pozthanks theadmin!!!06:24
Peddytheadmin is the best person06:24
ganimedepoz from a console type "locate System32" if it is indexed, will tell you where the partition is mounted (2 levels above)06:24
pozi found it ganimede. thank you though!06:25
theadminPeddy: I ain't, I'm one of the most awful people I know :D06:25
pozyou can be very mean..06:25
sasankin gsc suite ,can i run c++ programs06:25
JokesOnYou77theadmin: I was looking at the command you gave me, it looks like it is creating some kind of vmdk?06:25
Peddytheadmin, and humble as well! Truly an ambassador for the Ubuntu community.06:25
goddardJokesOnYou77: if i wanted to install another desktop enviornment i'd probably just intall OpenSUSE since it makse it so darn simple06:25
goddardJokesOnYou77: i got the Nvidia drivers istalled06:25
dr_willisntfs here is shown using the fuseblk filesystem . not ntfs-3g06:26
theadminJokesOnYou77: That vmdk (actually, it creates a vdi, I have no idea why it's called "createrawVMDK" >.<) is some sort of a "link" to a real drive06:26
goddardJokesOnYou77: i can disable unity?06:26
PeddyIs anyone on 11.10 having issues with the "devices" area disappearing from Nautilus pane?06:26
sasankok i found g++ version ,can i run c++ programs here06:26
theadminsasank: You can...06:26
JokesOnYou77goddard: There's definitely a way to just use gnome, but I don't remember how for 11.10.  I'm still on 11.0406:26
somsip!nounity | goddard06:27
ubottugoddard: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic06:27
theadminPeddy: I ain't humble... I'm crazy... You can PM me if you want to find out more about me :D06:27
sasankin this it does'nt show run command06:27
ganimedesasank you may compile them, like g++ myprogram.cpp -o myprogram06:27
cpgotheadmin, thanks, I found libxft2 and xfstt. Do you know if there are others?06:27
theadminsasank: g++ something.cpp -o something.out06:27
ganimedesasank then run myprogram06:27
theadmincpgo: No, unfortunately, sorry06:27
dr_willis!compile | sasank06:28
ubottusasank: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall06:28
JokesOnYou77theadmin: cool!  Do you remember where you got that from and/or what versions of VirtualBox it works with properly?  I'm just paranoid about breaking my systems by messing it up06:28
cpgotheadmin, ok np, thanks for your time06:28
sasankwhwt is the use of g++06:28
cpgocompile your code06:28
theadminJokesOnYou77: All versions starting with 3.x if I recall right, and I got that from the VirtualBox manual :D06:28
goddardJokesOnYou77: so basically your screwed that is how much Unity is broken?06:28
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ganimedesasank it transform a text file in format cpp source code into a machine code, that your computer may eventually execute06:29
JokesOnYou77theadmin: sweet!  going to try it right now.  One last thing tho, how do I know which number partition(s) to point it to?  I know that windows has some system reserved partition, and then some programs start numbering partitions at 0 and some at 1...06:30
theadminJokesOnYou77: vbox numbers starting with 0 iirc06:30
ganimedesasank but if you have such questions, maybe you need to read a good book first. start with C, kernighan/ritchie 'the c programming language second edition'06:30
JokesOnYou77goddard: not exactly, its just that it takes a fair amount of graphics processing I think.06:30
theadminJokesOnYou77: Not so sure though, let me look it up06:30
sasankif a text written in g++,how can we delete,where it does'nt happen by pressin backspce key06:31
icerootganimede: that book is from bjarne stroustroup (imo)06:31
JokesOnYou77goddard: and did you see the ubottu message somsip sent you?06:31
somsipgoddard: nah - just install another WM/DE if you don't like unity. Current score is about 48% keep it, 52% use something else06:31
icerootganimede: the founder of c++06:31
theadminJokesOnYou77: See section 9.8.1 of the VirtualBox User Manual, "Using a raw host hard disk from a guest"06:31
JokesOnYou77theadmin: you're my hero :)06:31
ganimedeiceroot c++ yes, but seems far too advanced for him06:32
* theadmin gets too many undeserved compliments today06:32
ganimedeiceroot, i have suggested c not c++06:32
node11hi06:32
icerootganimede: ah sorry you are right06:32
dr_willisit pays to readthe vbox docs.. ad warnings about doing that trick JokesOnYou7706:32
* cpgo takes back ty's for theadmin06:32
pozwho is theadmin?06:32
cpgoyou know that guy from harry potter whos name they cant say06:33
ganimedethe kernighan-ritchie is more a guide for newcomers, the stroustroup will lose him from chapter 1 with templates and other things. and he never mentions how to compile, btw :D06:33
cpgoyea, thats him06:33
* theadmin is not a guy at all :P06:33
JokesOnYou77dr_willis: warnings? and which trick?  I06:33
pozlol06:33
poztheadmin, what is your age?06:33
cpgoneither is harry potter, but I get offtopic :P06:33
dr_willisJokesOnYou77:  using vbox to boot/access a real physical disk06:33
jobud9this be the ubuntu help channel?06:34
theadminpoz: Um, this is too private to discuss in the channel. PM me.06:34
theadminjobud9: Yes.06:34
pozthis is a help channel?!06:34
nopf11.10 standard install (via wubi) ... may i select 'classic ubuntu' or such? and without a mouse?06:34
pozi thought it was just a place to talk about ubuntu stuff06:34
cpgopoz try #ubuntu-offtopic for that06:35
JokesOnYou77dr_willis: I've read the section of the ducumentation before, but at the time it was a bit over my head, and there was a 4.xx version of VBox that broke this utility and I wasn't particualrly satisfied with what I had heard on the forums for it.  And more importantly, what warnings would you add?06:35
pozoh06:35
ganimedenopf try with tabs, spaces and enters. i dont have a virtual partition at hand to try an install right now06:35
nopfganimede: oh thanks, that was easy :) ... tab, then space, let me select ubuntu 2d. thanks06:36
ganimedepoz it should be in my opinion, but quickly people that need things ask the community06:36
dr_willisJokesOnYou77:  last i read the manual they basically said using vbox to access a real physical drive could result in data loss.. i think they even had it in big bold letters.. it was not advised to use that feature06:36
jobud9well then, I am looking at my half installed copy of ubuntu server, and it is asking me to insert disk labeled "Ubuntu-Server 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20110719.2)" where do I get this file?06:36
pransala1hi guys. byoby seems to keep crashing on me which is.. highly annoying. where would its logs go so i can see why?06:36
theadmindr_willis: It always worked without any trouble for me, but data gets very corrupted if you attempt booting the OS which is the host OS06:36
ganimedea new kernel just landed06:37
pozoh ok06:37
yamahaalex37is ubu10 better than 11?06:37
yamahaalex3711 wouldnt install for me06:37
ganimedemay need to reboot in a few second06:37
JokesOnYou77dr_willis: now I remember why I didn't try it before! lol06:37
yamahaalex37oh, i was trying ubuntu alternate06:37
yamahaalex37what does that mean06:37
JokesOnYou77theadmin: out of curiosity, have you tried running from a raw partition before?06:37
dr_willisJokesOnYou77:  ive only used it i special rescue cases ;)06:37
nopfganimede: hm, this is ubuntu2d only, not classic... better than nothing though06:37
theadminJokesOnYou77: As stated above: It always worked without any trouble for me, but data gets very corrupted if you attempt booting the OS which is the host OS06:37
pozi have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...06:38
sasanki have written a c++ program in g++,where i cannot run ,how can i run my program.there are only file,editview,terminal,help options06:39
theadminsasank: g++ file.cpp -o file.out06:39
sasankwher  can i write this statement06:40
JokesOnYou77theadmin: so I just need to be very careful about what a point to where when creating the .vdi.  To your knowledge, is there any danger to accessing data on a shared partition with both the VirtualOS and the host?06:40
nevynJokesOnYou77: umm that requires co-ordination06:41
ganimedeback, new kernel up and running06:41
theadminJokesOnYou77: Again, on the host the partition MUST BE UNMOUNTED before it will work in Virtualbox (otherwise it fires an error saying something about "Drive not ready"06:41
dr_willisJokesOnYou77: vbox has a share feature.  for shareing a directory. ;)06:41
nevynso vmware has support for a host filesystem thingy (it looks like a network filesystem to the guest)06:41
pozi have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...06:42
dr_willis!terminal06:42
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal06:42
JokesOnYou77The thing is, I use a shared partition, /data (primary NTFS partition) and that's where I keep all of my files, and Virtualizing my Win7 partition won't be particularly useful if I can't get to any of my files without breaking something06:43
sasanki have written (g++ file.cpp -0 file out),wher my program does'nt run even ,how can i execte my program06:43
jobud9again, I am looking at my half installed copy of ubuntu server, and it is asking me to insert disk labeled "Ubuntu-Server 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20110719.2)" where do I get this file?06:44
pozi have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...06:45
nevynJokesOnYou77: insert the cd ?06:45
cpgosorry to bug you again theadmin, could libcairo have a hand in it?06:45
theadmincpgo: Not sure06:45
MahaVishnudr_willis: I got it working I think.06:45
ganimedesasank read the kernighan ritchie. anyway it is -o (o for output) not -0 (zero), and what follows is the name of the output file, without spaces between file and out, and you may remove the out part completely on unix/linux06:45
pozshould i just leave? it seems like everyone else has real problems where i just want to learn about how to do stuff06:46
JokesOnYou77poz: you should stay!  The more you stick around, the more opportunity you have to learn06:46
JokesOnYou77MahaVishnu: !!!!! Pleaze post a tutorial somewhere!06:46
nevynJokesOnYou77: it's asking for the install cd06:46
ganimedesasank, you are welcome, but trying to do things that need more time and knowledge to be mastered than a quick fix on a chat06:47
JokesOnYou77nevyn: I think you're being a little over-zelous with your tab-completion06:47
nevynJokesOnYou77: oops. sorry06:47
sasanki feel confusin while readin books06:47
jobud9my install cd is in the drive06:47
nevynjobud9: it's asking for the install cd06:47
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: yea I got it working, want to see my  Xorg ?06:48
jobud9@nevyn if you mean the cd I placed in the drive in the first place, it is there, unless I missed somthing06:48
ganimedesasank ok, open a private and i will try to guide you06:48
w30poz, #ubuntu-beginners might give you a slower pace on irc. join that also and switch back and forth.06:48
pozthanks w3806:49
MahaVishnuJokesOnYou77: hold on brb switching to xchat.06:49
JokesOnYou77w30: there's a beginners channel??? wow...06:49
pozlol sadly none of the beginners know how to find it :P06:49
sasankwhile readin programs ,i cannot solve dobts06:49
ganimedewow, interesting, didnt know about that other channel. i may have jumped the gun06:50
jobud9where is the install cd?!?!?06:50
ganimedeon your desk06:50
sasankin linux, how can increase my download speed06:52
* w30 goes off to join #ubuntu-going-to-bed-channel06:52
jobud9seriously, where is this iso?06:52
ganimedesasank it is already at the maximum, unlike windows06:52
sasankhow can i run my program in g++ version directl06:53
ganimedejubud9 if you have downloaded it from www.ubuntu.com you should know, otherwise you can get it there06:53
jobud9it does not make sense! I have downloaded the disk, and the disk is in the drive! but it is still rejecting the disk06:54
ganimedesasank pvt me for that06:54
ganimedehave you written a cd using that .iso?06:54
sasanki have downloded a linux.sh file ,is it a software file06:55
dsnydersHI all!  What's the best way to ensure that the folder on my home theatre device has the same files as my download folder?  I don't want to overwrite files if they're already there.06:55
goddardsomsip: i like unity what I dont like is the fact it lags06:55
nopfhm. i had wubi-install, made extra partition, copied everything there, did update-grub2, grub-install /dev/sda, *found* "ubuntu ... /dev/sda7" (the new partition) in grub menu. still i'm in the old (and slow?) wubi system. how to change?06:55
somsipsomsip: I suggested a solution06:55
somsipgoddard: I suggested a solution06:55
goddardJokesOnYou77: im trying to find a fix to this situation... i have a good graphics processor so I doubt thats the problem06:55
dsnyderssasank, It is a shell script, most likely.06:56
goddardsomsip: no one is questioning that06:56
cantfixthispeanut butter06:56
somsipgoddard: then I leave you to chat amongst yourself06:57
sasankcan i run and write my programs in this linux.sh file06:57
cantfixthisi need help06:57
ganimedesasank, from the shell type "cat linux.sh | less" the first lines are normally explanatory comments06:57
JokesOnYou77goddard: and the drivers didn't help?06:57
sasankcan it work in offline mode06:58
cantfixthisi am trying to undo changes does ubuntu have an undo function like windows system restore06:58
ganimededunno what it does and cant find my crystal ball06:59
dsnyderscantfixthis, I think there is something you can add that will do that, but I don't think it's there by default06:59
cantfixthiswhat is it called?06:59
dsnyders!backup07:00
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:00
goddardJokesOnYou77: yep no help07:00
sasankwhat can i do in linux.sh file07:00
goddardJokesOnYou77: even tweaked the settings to put it on max performance instead of adaptive07:00
cantfixthisomg i have to read!!??07:00
cantfixthisgrrr07:00
ganimedei dont have that file, sasank07:00
cantfixthisi just want apps i can install and click next next next done07:01
tightworkapt-get install proftpd ... do you want to run inetd? yes. ... start service, fail .. check logs, nothing07:01
JokesOnYou77goddard: beyond switching to pure gnome, I'm not really sure what to tell you.  One other good diagnostic would be to try a liveCD and see if that gives you the same problem07:02
sasanki have downloaded a linux.sh file,but i don't know what it's use,please tell me07:02
dsnyderssasank, what did you download it for?07:03
ganimedeit is a virus, sasank, delete it07:03
sasankthanks07:03
dsnydersHI all!  What's the best way to ensure that the folder on my home theatre device has the same files as my download folder?  I don't want to overwrite files if they're already there.07:04
sasankwhile i was downloadi netbeans it asked me to download the linux.sh file07:04
JokesOnYou77Time to check out my new fstab, back in a bit folks!07:04
dsnydersIs this a job for rsync?07:04
Techdude101dsnyders: rsync -ruv07:04
sasankwhat is the site to get netbeans07:05
dsnydersTechdude101, Thanks, I'll give that a go...07:05
tightworkpretty cool ez ubuntu cant even get a ftp server going out of the box07:05
tightworksmoke more ron07:05
zventionhello, how do i remove the dash in 11.10?07:06
tightworkoh september07:06
sasankwhat is .net07:07
ActionParsnipA Microsoft coding thing07:07
ganimedea competitor of java, ported likewise java into the open community07:08
sasankwhat is .net07:08
ganimedeit is a virtual machine that runs pcode07:08
ActionParsnip!.net07:08
doc|homeanyone know if hard disk UUIDs change between distro versions? e.g. if I install from scratch? I'm expecting they don't07:08
theadmindoc|home: If you don't format stuff, then it doesn't07:09
theadmindoc|home: They're stored on the filesystem07:09
theadmindoc|home: Same for labels :D07:09
doc|hometheadmin: how, in the FAT?07:09
doc|hometheadmin: ok, great, thanks!07:09
ganimedein the partition table07:09
* doc|home nods, made sense when he said same for labels07:09
doc|homethanks everyone07:09
theadmindoc|home: s/he/she/; :P07:10
ActionParsnipdoc|home: good question, i believe not but you can always change fstab in liveCD if it does07:10
doc|hometheadmin: it!07:10
sasankok whwt is the use of linux.sh file07:10
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Techdude101sasank: What folder is it in?07:11
ActionParsnipsasank: sounds like a script, but file extensions don't mean much in Linux07:11
* theadmin has finished setting up qingy... Finally a login manager that doesn't need X >.<07:12
A_Jsweet theadmin07:13
sasankwhich is better os windows or linux07:13
theadminsasank: Whichever works for you07:13
doc|homesasank: troll fail07:13
theadminsasank: They are too different to compare07:13
ActionParsnipsasank: depends on needs07:14
AnsiktSo, I was thinking of switching my secondary linuxes from Backtrack to Kubuntu, but I want to keep the injection-patched WLAN drivers.  Is it possible to just...copy the kernel modules from one distribution to another?07:14
dsnyderssasank, which is a better vehicle, a pickup or a sedan.07:14
sasanktoo difficult to compare07:14
theadminAnsikt: Um, no, I don't think that'd work07:14
tightworkprobably a pickup in the long run, when zombies take over the world07:14
sasanki need a editor to write programs,where can i get07:15
tightworkthe store bro07:15
tightworkthe store sells text editors07:15
tightworkask for it by name07:15
sam22hail !! people of this channel !07:15
sam22o/07:15
AnsiktSo, there's no way to copy drivers from one installation to another?  My understanding is that both are derivatives of Ubuntu.07:15
ActionParsnipsasank: try gedit   for a  coding IDE check the below07:15
ActionParsnip!ide07:16
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator07:16
Ansiktsasank:  There's a whole bunch.  Check out the software-y thing that Ubuntu comes with,07:16
tightworkAnsikt: all drivers are generally packaged into the dist07:16
ActionParsnipAnsikt:  could try it, its free to try07:16
tightworkmaybe have to probe the module and add it to startup if its a addon card07:16
A_Jsasank Windows Sucks Balls, get Linux07:16
sasankdoe linux os provide any tool for writin and running programs07:17
dsnyderssasank, linux is not for the faint of heart.  It is for the people who like to take things apart and put them back together.  If you want a shiny, clickity-click experience, then stick with windows.  If you want to get a look at the workings behind the scene, then get linux.07:17
Techdude101Ansikt: You can download replacement drivers that support injection, trying to find the site now07:17
ActionParsnipA_j: not in all situations dude07:17
tightworkman y ou guys cant spot a troll?07:17
Ansikttightwork:  Ubuntu provides a module for my card, it jsut doesn't do what I want.07:17
tightworkwelcome to the Internet07:17
sam22dsnyders with the age of internet learning linux is easier than before. so the only thing he needs is time and patience07:18
ActionParsniptightwork: feed til it pops07:18
AnsiktTechdude101:  The only thing I've found for my card are numerous patches scattered across the internet.  I'm a little bit scared of them, so I'd rather go with what I know works, if possible.07:18
doc|homesasank: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35h1vp/07:18
doc|hometightwork: ^07:18
sam22dsnyders most busy ppl don't have that07:18
A_JActionParsnip well unless your playing games, unix all the way. windows starts freezing in about 18 hours. unix uptime 32 days \o/07:18
ganimedesasank, yes - you have emacs, codeblocks, anjuta, and some few hundred more07:19
tightworkdoc|home: n107:19
Cyph3rlol, nice meme, doc07:19
dsnyderssam22, exactly!  Speaking of which, I need to get up in less than 6 hrs, so goodnight folks!07:19
ActionParsnipA_j: i look after virtualized sql servers with at least a year uptime07:19
AnsiktFor anyone interested (techdude101), I'm using Atheros' AR928X Card which uses ath9k as a driver07:20
ganimedebut you should stick with microsoft and outlook, and thanks to that powerful tool, ask other people to do it07:20
Techdude101Ansikt: I think the patches might also be on the live(cd/dvd/usb) of backtrack07:20
sasankhow can i retrieve a password when i have forgotten it , in windows07:21
nrdbwhat other than compiz is responsible for move windows on ubuntu 11.10?07:21
nabasasank, if you are new to programming on Linux, go for Anjuta - it will provide wizards to create much of the initial structures which will help you get started easier.07:21
A_JActionParsnip interesting. what OS07:22
NgevdHello!07:22
ganimedeyou can replace the corresponding registry file with a known password. there are half a dozen tools that do it07:22
ActionParsnipsasank: there is a program you can use in ubuntu to wipe the local admin password. Its also on the ultimate boot cd07:22
ActionParsnipA_j: server 2003 64bit07:22
sasankhow can i do it in windows07:23
ganimedeyou cannot. need to boot separately07:23
ActionParsnipsasank: ask in ##windows for windows support07:23
tightworklol07:23
nrdbA_J, I look after a server (remotely) the only time I have reset it is for kernel updates... apart from a HDD failure about 4 months ago.07:23
sasankwhat is trouble shootin07:24
A_Jnrdb, also windows i guess07:24
A_JActionParsnip but does windows server have stuff like UNIX such as SSH / VNC07:24
ganimedenrdb why disk failure? where you using an disk-intensive server on it? normally linux doesnt stress the disks07:24
nrdbA_J, no ubuntu lts.07:24
ActionParsnipsasank: www.howtogeek.com/howto/14369/change-or-reset-windows-password-from-a-ubuntu-live-cd/07:24
mysteriousdarrenyes07:24
A_Jlol nrdb yes unix is awesome.07:25
AnsiktA_J, you mean RDP?07:25
ActionParsnipA_j: just Sql and Rdp07:25
ActionParsnip!info chntpw07:25
nrdbganimede, it just failed... fortunatly it was in a raid 1 setup... it was a few years old.07:25
ubottuchntpw (source: chntpw): NT SAM password recovery utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.6-2 (oneiric), package size 49 kB, installed size 144 kB07:25
A_Jhmm, ActionParsnip but what do you think unix is more powerful ?07:25
nopfhow can i open a mp4 file with console-mplayer using the gui? that is, how to enter '/path/to/program' in 'open with' context menu?07:26
ganimedei have my 2 disks (ssd) in raid0... i am a bit worried07:26
Techdude101Ansikt: The patches come with aircrack-ng07:26
ActionParsnipA_j: in different situations each OS will shine. All our ESX boxes run ESX Linux.07:26
sam22how to remove the downloaded package list of apt-get ?07:27
A_Jesx box ActionParsnip ?07:27
A_Jsorry not familiar07:27
sam22sometimes they become so large they take harddisk space07:27
sasankwhere can i learn game programmin07:28
ActionParsnipnopf: could make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications to run: gnome-terminal vlc-nox %U    you'll need to verify syntax but it'll be something like that07:29
theadminA_J: Here's a screenshot of Qingy in vbox for you :D :  http://i.imm.io/cPTb.png07:29
nrdbA_J, I agree with ActionParsnip.   In my opinion Windows should never be used for a server.07:29
nopfActionParsnip: thanks, will try that time permitting :]07:29
sam22nrdb that's already been decided by the market if you look the market shares on running both linux and windows servers07:30
A_Joh thats nice. In my personal experince, windows non server editions are higly unstable07:30
sam22but windows server 2008 R2 i think kind of good07:30
ActionParsnipA_j: its a host to run VMs we have them in teams so if one box gets busy, the server computation is moved to one which is not so busy07:30
sam22without the price tag ofcourse07:31
ganimedethe advantage of windows is that it pushes the users to change hardware regularly, hence favors the market economy :D07:31
AnsiktYou know what I like about Windows?  Fuckin' powershell.07:31
AnsiktAlso, thanks, Techdude101, you're right.07:31
ActionParsnipAnsikt: powershell is awesome07:32
A_JActionParsnip very nice, your Database Admin I presume ?07:32
ActionParsnipA_j: noc engineer07:32
nrdbsam22, one thing that annoys me is that the my university seems to think Windows is the only thing people use... asking for assignments in .doc format etc.07:32
sasankhow can anyone become a comuter programmer07:32
alex1I need to copy about 20 folders, that contain a lot of hard links (rsnapshot backup directory) while preserving hard links. I've tryed "cp -a" to do this, but cp runs out of memory and gets oom killed.  Is there a better way to do that?07:33
ActionParsnipNrdb: not pdf. Weird07:33
ganimedewell, you may write them in texi then convert to html then import into word, in any case you can use openoffice07:33
sam22nrdb that will change if open office takes over but i don't think that will happen anytime son07:33
nrdbsam22, LibreOffice now ....07:34
sasankhow can we operate a linux os in windows system07:34
ganimedeyou cant, but the other way round works. microsoft has given like 50k lines of code to the open source community to allow it07:35
nrdbsasank, a VM is the only way I know.07:35
Lasivianany suggestion for a FPS linux game?07:36
sasankwhat is vm07:36
Atlantic777Lasivian: nexuiz07:36
Lasivianthanks :)07:36
Atlantic777sasank: virtual machine, example: virtualbox07:36
Atlantic777!vm07:37
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications07:37
Atlantic777!VirtualBox | sasank07:37
ubottusasank: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox07:37
AnsiktAlex1:  You could try using find to copy all regular files, and then use find again for all hard links, and copy with -l?  There's gotta be a better way, though.07:37
sam22sasank what are you trying to do with linux?07:37
AnsiktLasivian:  UrbanTerror.  They're about to put out a new major release!07:38
LasivianAnsikt: thanks07:38
Lasiviangoing on a long flight tomorrow, want something I can sit back with my controller and veg out in07:39
nrdbis there a good PCB design program, with circuit entry?07:39
Atlantic777nrdb: kicad07:39
Atlantic777nrdb: eagle07:39
sasanki alredy poses windows in my pc , butcan i run linux directly through or viceversa07:39
LasivianIs there a linux version of Eagle?07:39
Atlantic777Lasivian: yes07:39
LasivianI liked eagle at work, never tried it at home, hrrm07:40
Braden`Hello07:40
PeddyAnsikt, I just had a look at this chat, and I'm excited to hear UT has a new release coming out! It's been a while!07:40
nrdbLasivian, yes.... but I am having trouble with it... it uses the <alt> button and the window manager is not allowing the <alt>click though to eagle.07:40
Lasiviansasank: You mean, can you run Linux inside Windows?07:40
Braden`I used sudo -s to gain root, and then I 'su'd o a different user, and typed "screen", but I get this message --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.07:40
alex1Ansikt: yeah, I guess I will try it out07:40
Lasiviannrdb: yeah, i've got some issues with that too....07:40
sasankyes07:40
PeddyAnsikt, do you have any more information on the release?07:41
AnsiktPeddy:  Oh yeah, I was just reading it on their blog the other day.  Improved graphics, new models for characters and guns, and it seems they're going to impliment dual wielding for the secondary weapons.07:41
Atlantic777Lasivian: there's a free (as in beer) version but with some limits for only 2 layers and size of PCB.07:41
Lasivianwonder if we can change Alt in Gnome to something else07:41
nrdbLasivian, I have been trying to get the WM to use another key than <alt> but have been unsucsessful07:41
LasivianFREE BEER?!?! WHERE??07:41
Lasivianahem, pardon me...07:41
* Lasivian coughs07:42
nrdbLasivian, you could before 'unity'07:42
sasankis it possible07:42
PeddyAnsikt, those changes don't sound too major :/ it's been a few years though! Maybe they have some big surprises lined up07:42
Lasiviannrdb: oh, is Unity the new 11.X window setup?07:42
ganimedewell, you can still disable unity and use another desktop, like the cube07:42
Lasiviani'm still on 10.04 long-term here07:42
ganimedeand then you can reassign freely your keys07:43
AnsiktPeddy:  Well, it makes the game look quite a bit more modern, in any case.  Also a slew more handguns.  What would constitute a new "major version" to you?07:43
dr_williscube is a desktop now? ;007:43
sasankwhat is cloud computing07:43
ganimedesasank, go to the church07:43
dr_willissasank:  wikipedia has definitions of that.07:43
sam22haha07:43
sam22the guy is indian07:44
Atlantic777!cloud | sasank07:44
ubottusasank: The Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC), powered by Eucalyptus, is highly configurable and customizable to a variety of environments. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC07:44
sam22over 50% of the developers in microsoft are from asia07:44
sasankwhat is its concept07:44
sam22so give him a week07:44
sam22then see what he is capable of07:44
Braden`I used sudo -s to gain root, and then I 'su'd o a different user, and typed "screen", but I get this message --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.07:44
Atlantic777sasank: it's when you connect computers over network and make im work together. :D07:44
ganimedeover 70% of the developers from any corporation are from asia, for cost reasons07:44
ganimede(internal or external)07:44
sasankdoes it means that commn flow in clouds07:45
Braden`This is true.  I am based in Asia managing Asian teams.07:45
PeddyAnsikt, ooh, new weapons! I guess my expectation would be something like physics improvements, or improvements to game mechanics. It just seems a bit behind other games even for its time, but perhaps that's a by design.07:45
Atlantic777sasank: what? :D07:45
ganimedebraden, what do you want to do with root rights?07:45
om26er!test07:45
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test )07:45
AnsiktPeddy:  Well, the graphics rendering engine looks a bit revamped, but I see what you mean - the physics feel much less real than Halo: Combat Evolved, and that came out in what, 2003?07:47
pozcan any of those games be placed on ubuntu?07:47
Braden`ganimede:  I just want to be able to launch screen sessions after I 'su'07:48
nrdbLasivian, yes... so far not impressed.07:48
Atlantic777poz: which games? Urban Terror? Shure it can!07:48
nrdbLasivian, seems to much configuration simplification ... not even sure how to control user groups from the gui.07:49
pozhow about diablo 3 when it comes out?07:50
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ganimedeshould work without admin rights, but you can do "sudo screen"07:50
PeddyAnsikt, I'm glad to hear - I used to play Sauerbraten and Urbanterror, and the former had one of the most amazing engines I've used. I'm not sure why they haven't focussed on those things, it would be even easier to use some physics mechanisms over other free games.07:50
Peddyfrom other games*07:50
Lasivianwhat I wouldn;t give for a good Mech combat game...07:52
dr_willisLasivian:  mechwarrior free to play . comming out in 201207:53
AnsiktPeddy:  Well, it's all ioQuake under the hood, so I don't know if it's really that Sauerbraten has better physics than Urbanterror, or if Urbanterror just isn't bothering to impliment it.07:53
Atlantic777poz: check the winehq apps db and playonlinux07:53
Lasiviandr_willis: oh, kickass07:53
Lasivianonly PC tho, but still something07:54
pozthanks atlantic7707:55
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BJD10Anyone know how to pass PHP variable to another part of the page for google cse08:02
BJD10http://pastebin.com/vdtApCQa08:02
Atlantic777BJD10: join #php08:04
BJD10already looking there too.08:04
naught101I'm trying to upgrade over satellite internet, and have disabled ipv6, but apt is hanging while waiting for headers (0%), and eventually the connection is failing, after a few minutes.08:06
naught101anyone have any experience of this? web browsing is generally a bit slow, but it works...08:06
webnetDo u have v4 enabled??08:07
naught101webnet: it's enabled by default, no?08:07
webnetShould be but if you are getting an unable to connect that may be my first thought08:08
yamahaalex37is there a ubuntu equivalent of disk manager08:08
naught101webnet: browsing and pinging is working fine08:08
webnetRun ifconfig in terminal08:08
webnetOh ok. Hmm...08:09
naught101webnet: yep, wlan0 is up, with an IPv4 address, no ipv6 address08:09
naught101webnet: everything else works fine, it's just apt08:09
webnetOk good. Are you running apt-get update and getting the error or a specific package?08:10
yamahaalex37is there a ubuntu equivalent of disk manager08:10
webnetYamahaalex37 depends what are you trying to accomplish??08:10
yamahaalex37webnet, i tried dual boot win ubu same drive, fuxed up windows08:11
yamahaalex37i installed ubu to another drive08:11
htmlhi08:11
yamahaalex37im trying to delete whatever linux or grub partitions were created on the other drive, see if i can bring back windows08:11
naught101webnet: no, everything in apt always hangs here. I can't update, I can't install anything, and I can't upgrade08:11
webnetAah so trying to fix the borked win install?08:11
yamahaalex37basically08:12
yamahaalex37its still there, i think it should be fine08:12
yamahaalex37it actually shows in grub, but selecting it starts to load then restarts08:12
webnetYeah wat is messed up. Win doesnt show up in grub? Or error?08:12
nrdbis it possible to run two different window managers at the same time, say one in screen 7 and one in screen 8 ?08:13
webnetnaught101. Hmm... by sattelite you mean wifi right?08:13
yamahaalex37it shows up, i select it08:13
yamahaalex37it starts to load, then restarts08:13
Techdude101yamhaalex37: You could run ntfsfix on your windows partition (apt-get install ntfsprogs)08:14
naught101webnet: no. I mean satellite modem08:14
webnet^^ i was just thinkin tht08:14
yamahaalex37its on another drive will that work08:14
nrdbyamahaalex37, I would suspect Windows...08:14
bodohguys ... anyway to play netflix in linux?08:14
naught101webnet: http://skymesh.net.au/08:15
Techdude101yamhaalex37: Yeah, it'll work on any drive e.g. ntfsfix /dev/sdb08:15
pnormannaught101: Some sat providers suck for blocking random stuff. I can't think of anything in apt that would cause it to be blocked though08:15
webnetnaught101 oh ok... hmm... you said browsing is slow. How slow. What is your bandwidth. My thought is perhaps apt is timing out as its taking so long for the server to respond08:16
naught101pnorman: I was wondering that, but it seems an odd thing to block. Also, if I ring them up, they'll just say "sorry, we don't support linux"08:17
pnormanwebnet: The issue with sat isn't bandwidth, although bandwidth isn't great, it's latency08:17
naught101webnet: not slow enough to kill the fun08:17
Ansiktpnorman:  I think apt uses ftp and http for transfers, so I doubt it's port-based.08:17
htmlis there a sever or alike that i can redircet all traffic online to it and speed up things , like p2p traffic ( Cod, call of duty). torrants i helpseed for linux , xbox online games ,08:17
naught101pnorman: yeah, possibly. I used to have problems here with ssh as well, but ssh seems to be working quite well lately - a second or two lag, but no connection problems08:17
pnormanAnsikt: They don't always do port-based blocking.08:18
yamahaalex37where is terminal...08:18
pnormanAnsikt: But ya, apt seems like a weird thing to be blocked.08:18
webnetPorman i just mean if hes only pulling like 5kbps that may cause it to be slow enough to cause a timeout08:18
htmlhoping i can lower my ping , and access  time08:18
pnormannaught101: try searching for apt-get on http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/173486908:19
webnetYamahaalex ctrl+alt+t08:20
Ansiktpnorman:  I really doubt they're blocking it.  I'd bet any money the problem lies somewhere between your walljack and your chair.08:21
pnormannaught101: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1734869&p=45&#r898 seems to answer it. Apparently Skymesh's QoS de-prioritizes apt based on the HTTP user agent08:22
naught101pnorman: wow, what a pack of bastards08:23
pnormanIf that's true or not, I don't know, but I imagine it'd be relatively easy to test08:23
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webnetnaught101 | !language08:23
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yamahaalex37why doesnt su root work in ubu08:24
yamahaalex37i dont remember setting up root pw08:25
webnet!language | naught10108:25
ubottunaught101: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:25
Techdude101yamahaalex37: try sudo su -08:25
webnetYamahaalex its sudo su in ubu08:25
naught101pnorman: really? how?08:25
ikoniait is not "sudo su"08:26
ikoniasudo -i08:26
ikoniathat will give you a root shell correctly08:26
webnetIt is sido su08:26
ikoniawebnet: no, it is not08:27
ikoniawebnet: sudo -i is the correct way to get a root shell in ubuntu08:27
AnsiktWhy?08:27
webnetWhy would you want a root shell when you can just su in?08:27
ikonia!sudo > Ansikt08:27
ubottuAnsikt, please see my private message08:27
naught101webnet: poor form. sudo -i or sudo -s08:27
ikoniaAnsikt: check out the link ubottu just sent you08:27
pnormannaught101: change the apt user agent. I've never done it myself and I'm too tired to be confident that this will work, but adding Acquire::http::User-Agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/16.0.912.36 Safari/535.7" to /etc/apt/apt.conf *might* do it08:27
webnetNaught101 how so?08:28
yamahaalex37Techdude101, i tried ntfsfix /dev/sdbm, returned: volume is corrupt, try chkdsk08:28
ikoniayamahaalex37: fixing ntfs disks in linux is not a good idea, the correct tool for the job is Windows,08:29
naught101pnorman: I think I will try the ssh tunnel thing first08:29
sheeps_hi, I'm trying to convince banshee to sync with my generic usb music player but it won't recognise it when I plug it in, so it doesn't appear in the side bar (I can view the files in nautilus though)08:29
Techdude101yamahaalex37: Make sure you run it on the windows partition itself e.g. ntfsfix /dev/sdb108:29
pnormannaught101: sat providers seem to filter in the most brain-dead ways. a ssh tunnel would be useful in general, but you'd need a computer to tunnel to08:29
naught101pnorman: I have one :)08:30
yamahaalex37Techdude101, refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sdb208:30
Techdude101yamahaalex37: Also make sure the drive isn't mounted08:30
drake01guys, what's the command to enable and then safely remove the usb data-drives from commandline?08:30
Techdude101yamahaalex37: umount /dev/sdb208:30
yamahaalex37Techdude101, not says it was processed sucessfull08:31
yamahaalex37restart and try loading?08:31
pnormannaught101: I was trying to get someone I know to be able to connect to Ventrilo (closed source voice chat server, like mumble, used as the standard way to communicate for some games). I gave up. I knew that it was theoretically possible to tunnel it (and only it) and bypass the blocking, but I knew that walking a non-technical user through setting up a tunnel would be near-impossible08:32
Techdude101yamahaalex37: Yeah, see if it boots to windows and if it does run chkdsk if it doesn't start automatically08:32
naught101webnet: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/10/11/why-use-sudo-instead-of-su/08:32
pnormanJust remember, ubuntu is open source. If you break it, you get to keep the pieces :)08:32
naught101pnorman: I've done tunnelling before, I just need to remember how. will look up a howto08:32
yamahaalex37damn win didnt load08:32
drake01guys, what are the  commands to mount and then safely remove the usb data-drives from commandline?08:33
nrdbI think there is a bug with ubuntu... I can't seem to change the window drag key from <alt> to anything else.08:34
Techdude101yamahaalex37: check your grub config, make sure it's pointing to the right drive/partition for windows08:34
yamahaalex37im sure it is, because i can select repair windows08:34
pnormannaught101: My ISP blocks a few ports, but no packet filtering or anything like that08:34
prodr1fterxhello08:35
Techdude101yamahaalex37: At what point does it reboot? Does it try and load windows?08:35
prodr1fterxhello08:36
htmlis there a server that speeds up my internet, and lowers ping ,?  or an app08:37
drake01How to mount and then safely remove the usb data-drives using commandline?08:37
htmlis there a server that speeds up my internet, and lowers ping ,?  or an app, or an os?08:37
Techdude101drake01: Think the command is "eject /dev/sdX"08:38
ejvHello, I'm using diff between 2 files, there are arrows pointing left and right and a ----- line break; what does this all represent?08:40
ejv(The line break is followed by more output with directional arrows.)08:40
Ansikthtml, check out Opera.  They compress some of the data before they send it to you.08:41
AnsiktIt's pretty great for slow interwebs, html08:41
pnormanMost web browsers (all?) support gzip encoded content, but servers have to as well08:41
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yamahaalex37any commands i can run in ubu to fix grub?08:43
MahaVishnuyamahaalex37, whats wrong with it?08:43
yamahaalex37BOOTMGR is missing08:43
yamahaalex37long story08:44
MahaVishnuare you dual booting?08:44
theadminyamahaalex37: That sounds like a Windows error...08:44
yamahaalex37i tried win ubu dual boot, broke windows boot. I installed ubu to another hdd, tried to fix. i loaded win recover, ran abunch of fixmbr commands08:44
yamahaalex37now i have no grub, and no bootmgr08:44
naught101pnorman: hurr... that user agent string fixes it. How ridiculous08:45
xeqacheHello, I'm having problems with ssh08:46
xeqacheIs there anyone that can help?08:46
sattu94yamahaalex37: There is no reason fr the ubu installation to break windows, unless it was unsuccessful.08:46
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sattu94xeqache: dont ask to ask. just ask.08:47
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happygoluckyls08:47
happygoluckyoops08:48
MahaVishnuyamahaalex37, can you like open gparted and take a screen shot of it or something so I have a clue whats going on in your computer?08:48
happygoluckysorry08:48
xeqacheI've got ubuntu running on my server, and on my local host. I have the right key pair set up, but ssh is returning permission denied (publickey)08:48
xeqacheCan't figure out why at all08:48
en1gmaif i want to just run a live cd how would i use kernel 3.1.5? i mean is there a script that lets you create a NEW/Custom live ubuntu usb/cd?08:48
en1gmathere is a special driver for my wifi usb adapter that came in 3.108:49
yamahaalex37MahaVishnu, is there any fix grub commands i can run08:50
sattu94xeqache: Did you put the public key in the authorized_keys file ?08:50
xeqacheon my localhost?08:50
sattu94xeqache: on the server.08:50
xeqacheit's an amazon ec2, so I presume it did it when I uploaded the public key08:51
xeqacheI can't get into it to do it otherwise08:51
sattu94xeqache: Then I guess you could try asking on #ssh08:51
xeqachethanks anyway08:51
MahaVishnuyamahaalex37, sudo update-grub2 sudp update-initramfs -u08:52
en1gmai mean i would like to use kernel 3.1.5 with ubuntu live cd....is there a guide to do this?08:52
yamahaalex37MahaVishnu didnt work08:53
yamahaalex37im livecd08:53
sheeps_hi, I'm trying to convince banshee to sync with my generic usb music player but it won't recognise it when I plug it in, so it doesn't appear in the side bar (I can view the files in nautilus though)08:53
sattu94xeqache: How did you upload they key?08:54
caoxiaomin全是国外友人吗?08:56
Cradam!grub08:56
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)08:56
Cradamyamahaalex37: look at the restore grub link08:56
caoxiaominhelp08:57
ravedogHey all, i have a bit of an issue here. I need to deploy different packages to machines via cfe based on if its a laptop or a workstation. I was looking for pcmcia slot and then defined it as a laptop. However new laptops dont have pcmcia -.- Anyone got a bright idea?08:57
caoxiaomin如何进入中文UBUNTU08:57
MahaVishnuyamahaalex37, I'd probably suggest just reinstalling ubuntu at this point.08:57
theadmin!cn | caoxiaomin08:57
ubottucaoxiaomin: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw08:57
xeqachesattu94, I uploaded it via the aws managaement console08:57
caoxiaominok08:57
icerootravedog: if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/state ] (i think its just a dirty workaround)08:58
icerootravedog: also maybe hwinfo have some info about it08:58
ravedogBrilliant Iceroot, hwinfo is too unreliable (got a few different models). However batteru state is perfect08:59
ravedogthnx!08:59
Cradamiceroot: acpi is not a work around, its what all battery monitors use09:01
caoxiaominhello everyone!09:01
AnsiktHELLO CAOXIAOMIN!09:01
caoxiaominhello,where are you from?09:02
icerootCradam: ah ok09:02
icerootravedog: see the info from Cradam09:02
sam22caoxiaomin no chinese help ?09:02
Cradamooh /proc/acpi/battery/state isnt on this comp09:03
Cradamits a laptop09:03
ravedogiceroot dang!09:04
icerootCradam: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state09:04
ravedogsounded soo good09:04
Cradamravedog:  if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/ ] looks like it should always work09:04
icerootravedog: should still be working because its only generated when a battery is plugged in09:04
susundbergCradam: that exists also on desktops09:04
icerootravedog: but mnaybe you get a problem when there is no battery plugged in but an ac adapter and its still a laptop09:04
Cradamahh, use 2 if statements then09:04
Cradamravedog: if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state  || -e /proc/acpi/battery/state] ?09:05
ravedogmy workstation has the /proc/acpi/battery/ but its empty09:06
Cradambtw, i dont know much about if statements in bash09:06
Braden`In aptitude, I still have a category called "gnome".  If I am using Unity, do I still need stuff in the gnome category?09:07
ravedogand both laptops have folders in the /proc/apci/battery/09:07
wakamanhello I'm from the real world my name is mike09:08
ravedogCradam: i have on one laptop two folders name BAT0 & BAT1 and on the other they are named C1F3 & C1F409:08
wakamanhow are you doing today09:08
geoffmccBraden`: Unity is a shell that runs on gnome - so you still need gnome09:08
ravedogbut unless there is a machine without batty all together i should be pretty safe going for if there is anything att all in the battery folder09:08
ravedogbattery*09:09
Braden`ok09:09
Braden`tanks09:09
Cradamravedog: good idea09:09
Braden`thanks09:09
zxiesthey =)09:09
ravedogthnx for you help guys09:09
zxiestHow can I get more info about a process given its pid?09:09
Cradamravedog: if [ -a /proc/acpi/battery/* ] ??09:10
ravedogCradam: Yeah!09:11
htmlansikt i know that, thanks but i want all my traffic to go through this computer09:11
ActionParsnipBraden`: you can run unity on LXDE if you so desire :)09:15
Cradamravedog: yep, that works09:15
ravedogCradam: Cheers m8!09:16
Alexeyhi people09:17
AlexeyI am new here09:17
Alexeygoing to install xubuntu09:17
Alexeybut cannot get root rights(((09:17
ActionParsnipAlexey: you don't need it, just use sudo09:18
ActionParsnipAlexey: you can get a root terminal with:  sudo -i09:18
Alexeyfor any commands??09:18
ActionParsnipAlexey: for terminal commands just prepend the command with sudo09:19
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Alexeygot it got it))09:19
ntr0pyWhen building a package from an install tree in "debian/dest" with dh_install -a --sourcedir=debian/dest do i need any special treatment for shared object files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions?09:19
vltHello. How can I enter a whole path of a folder in nautilus?09:20
ActionParsnipvlt: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/how-to-show-text-entry-address-bar-or-breadcrumbs-navigation-buttons-in-nautilus-after-ubuntu-10-04-upgrade/09:21
ActionParsnipvlt: try CTRL+L09:21
ravedogvlt: what do you mean? just crtl+l to bring up the location window and do a /full/path/to/stuff09:21
yamahaalexi tried ubu dual boot on windows hdd, windows wasnt loading, so i uninstalled and put ubu on another drive09:22
yamahaalexnow i only have win 7 on the hdd, but grub tried to load09:23
yamahaalexhow can i get rid of grub09:23
yamahaalexim on the other hdd now, ubu09:23
vltActionParsnip, ravedog: Yes, ctrl+l works. Thank you.09:23
sam22is there a GUI program for ubuntu that shows log errors ?09:26
ActionParsnipvlt: no worries09:27
ActionParsnipsam22: do you mean system logs, or just the errors in the logs, or log in errors?09:27
yoggHi09:28
yoggIs it possible to ask the "dhcp" server only for the dns servers and not change anything on the interface configuration?09:28
ActionParsnipyogg: I'd read the dhclient3  man page, see if its possible09:29
sam22ActionParsnip how do i install ubuntu default log viewer or any other log viewer ?09:29
sam22i'm on server installation09:29
sam22and there is excessive CPU activity09:30
sam22so i need to know what's happening09:30
yoggActionParsnip: the problem is "man dhclient3" shows me many options, but most of them are not described :(09:30
ActionParsnipsam22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles#Viewing_Files   not sure about log file viewer being default, you can always use less to read the files09:30
almoxarifesam22: have a gui client to access the server?09:32
rasmusthwhen I try to update the update manager keeps saying, "installation of untrusted packages"09:32
rasmusthhow do I fix this? 11.1009:32
yoggActionParsnip: google manpage is better   -n  :)09:33
yogghmm with "dhclient -n" the client hangs and don't show me anything09:36
sam22almoxarife i'm on the server09:38
ActionParsniprasmusth: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/lsb-release09:38
sam22sorry for the late reply09:38
sam22i customized it from the beginning but i don't know is broken now09:39
yamahaalexdouble touchpad scroll not working ubu fresh install09:40
sam22ok i installed the ubuntu GUI log viewer09:40
sam22thanks for the tip guys09:40
ax3plyrhey guys, quick question, in terms of wildcards, how come doing "ls D?sktop" doesn't list Desktop (for example).09:41
almoxarifeyamahaalex: look at the mouse/pad setting, I do believe that what you want is there, but needs to be set09:41
rasmusthActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org oneiric InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A278309:42
rasmusththis may be the line you want?09:42
yamahaalexthanks almostroot09:42
yamahaalexalmoxarife,09:42
almoxariferasmusth: you don't have the pub keys for the ppa, and being told so09:45
rasmusthokay09:45
rasmusthshouldn't ubuntu make sure I have that?09:45
JLuchello09:47
raidgh0stHello JLuc09:47
raidgh0stSeems like pretty much of the people in here is sleeping (timezone diff)09:48
almoxariferasmusth: no, ppa's are sort of the wild wild west, on you to make them work and suffer when they cripple your system09:48
JLuci deleted a folder using rm -rf *    Plz Is there a simple way to recover it ?09:48
raidgh0stooh. You done something stupid..09:48
JLuc:-/09:48
rasmusthalmoxarife: okay that doesnt make a lot of sense though as I have not changed anything, it stopped working on its own09:49
almoxarifeJLuc: now you won't do that again09:49
raidgh0stlearning by doing09:49
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JLuci'll be more thoughtfull09:49
JLucsure09:49
raidgh0stits almost the same as my typos for some years ago. rm picture.jpg picture_year.jpg09:49
raidgh0stand i couldnt understand why the pictures was gone09:49
geirha!undelete | JLuc09:49
ubottuJLuc: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel09:49
almoxariferasmusth: you had to have added the ppa, it did not happen via ubuntu alone09:49
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JLucthank ubuntu team i will look at these links09:50
raidgh0stalmoxarife: Of course my friend was laughting. and did ask me. What command did you run again you said. And then it went up on my mind. The wrong syntax :p09:50
rasmusthalmoxarife: even if I remove everything from the list, it still doesnt work09:50
almoxariferaidgh0st: ????09:51
almoxariferasmusth: it? and list?09:51
rasmusththe problem is coming from Medibuntu09:51
raidgh0stnevermind. you was not able to follow my lines.09:51
rasmusthand I do not recall adding Medibuntu09:51
cowtauroghi, can anyone help me figure this out? my ubuntu cd (and dvd) won't boot, all it shows is a little graphic at the bottom center of the screen with a box, arrow, and a little guy in a circle.09:51
raidgh0stcowtaurog: Checked bios?09:52
yamahaalexis there a one line apt-get to have LAMP?09:52
cowtaurogwhat do you mean?09:52
cowtaurogit boots from cd, if that's what you're asking09:52
icerootyamahaalex: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php509:52
rasmusthalmoxarife: isn't medibuntu added when I install ubuntu?09:53
yamahaalexthanks iceroot09:54
raidgh0strasmusth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu09:54
cowtauroganyways i was going to do an install on a hard drive i recently cleand out. i installed knoppix on it, it works just fine, but it's ghetto, ubuntu is what i wanted to begin with09:54
almoxariferasmusth: no, you are thinking of another distro that does, but it is not 'ubuntu'09:55
raidgh0strasmusth: needs to be installed afterwards.09:55
rasmusthhow on earth has it gotten onto my system then09:55
rasmusthmaybe XBMC installed it09:55
almoxariferasmusth: no, xbmc wouldn't09:56
htmlwhats a cashing server?09:56
raidgh0stalmoxarife: When installing XBMC it also install the medibuntu packages and Ubuntu restricted extras.09:56
dr_willisa cacheing server you mean?09:56
DelayaDoes anyone know why when I reverse search in the shell, sometimes a command just dissapears from the search <history> and is replaced by a wildcard?09:57
almoxariferaidgh0st: you saying that xbmc adds the medibuntu ppa? I have xbmc, I guess I can look for myself09:57
raidgh0stalmoxarife: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/install-xbmc-on-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html09:58
almoxarife!info dnsmasq | html09:58
ubottuhtml: dnsmasq (source: dnsmasq): A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.57-1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 13 kB, installed size 120 kB09:58
almoxarifehtml: I use it, pretty cool little app too09:59
redHeya, I have an older server runnin karmic09:59
redand the package sources have been removed from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists10:00
rasmusthwhen I have an application installed from the software center, can I edit it's startup script somewhere?10:00
redwhat should I do? :p10:00
raidgh0stkarmic, i guess thats the only version that graphical card works with Acer aspire one10:00
dr_willisraidgh0st:  that sites directions seems to contradict itself.. they are installing the medibuntu and extras with their commands.10:02
almoxariferaidgh0st: the link is wrong, there is more than one ppa for xbmc 11.1010:02
dr_willisbbl10:03
raidgh0stalmoxarife: okey then.10:03
sam22cya dr_willis10:03
DelayaDoes anyone know why when I reverse search in the shell, sometimes a command just dissapears from the search <history> and is replaced by a wildcard?10:03
reddists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found10:03
almoxariferaidgh0st: something else, the english looks like it was spit out by a universal translator10:03
redfrom apt-get update10:03
sam22anyone in here nows how to delete the apt-get update packages lists?10:03
redand then I checked that the distros are indeed removed from archive, so how would I upgrade if i wanted to :P10:03
sam22they are stored in /var/lib/apt/lists/10:04
raidgh0stalmoxarife: I guess you rather would like me to speak norwegian.10:04
htmlall-knowing google10:04
almoxariferaidgh0st: ??10:05
yamahaalexhow can i set up a localhost domain in ubu10:05
raidgh0stalmoxarife: i thought you was complaining aboute my english.10:05
cowtaurogokay, so can anyone *pleeease* tell me what these hieroglyphics mean? my ubuntu cd won't boot, and all it gives me is some little icon on the bottom of my screen10:06
almoxariferaidgh0st: no, I was talking about the link10:06
raidgh0stOkey.10:06
rasmusthwhen I have an application installed from the software center, can I edit it's startup script somewhere?10:06
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: did yuo MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?10:07
almoxariferasmusth: you can, but the question is how much needs to be edited to get what you want to achieve10:08
cowtaurog no, i didn't, but i've tried it a few times, both cd and dvd10:08
yamahaalexwhere does ubu store apache files10:08
cowtaurogi shall try right now though10:08
yamahaalexhttpd.conf10:08
ActionParsniprasmusth: sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update10:08
rasmusthI want to add --version=4.0 as a launch parameter10:08
raidgh0stcowtaurog: Does something else boot from the DVD drive?10:08
ActionParsnip!md5 | cowtaurog10:08
ubottucowtaurog: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows10:08
almoxariferasmusth: to what?10:08
cowtaurogyeah i've installed knoppix just like i intended to do ubuntu10:09
raidgh0stalmoxarife: ubottu selfmade ircbot?10:09
cowtaurogboot from dvd, install to hd, boot from hd, works great10:09
rasmusthalmoxarife: an application called Airfoil Speakers10:09
raidgh0stperl i guess.10:09
cowtaurogbut ubuntu just doesn't want to boot from the cd10:09
raidgh0stWhy boot from cd when you can boot from dvd10:09
cowtaurogyeah i have to find a md5 client for windows now...10:09
rasmusthsorry10:10
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: as yuo havn't checked the ISO, you don't know if it is complete or consistant10:10
rasmusth--runtime=v4.010:10
mac1hello10:10
raidgh0sthello mac110:10
htmlalmoxarife,  whats it do?10:10
cowtaurogyeah i just find it odd that i've got two different iso's and both do the same thing10:11
almoxarifehtml: it?10:11
raidgh0stcowtaurog: what size are your iso?10:11
almoxariferasmusth: what version? ubuntu10:11
rasmusth11.1010:11
mac1unity freezes when i switch users (nvidia 520 gt with proprietary drivers..) i have to logout between each user change10:11
mac1any ideas ?10:12
ActionParsnipmac1: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace    is it ok?10:12
almoxariferasmusth: /usr/share/applications has all the .desktop files for gui'fied apps, you could change it there?10:12
cowtaurogubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso, and it's 711,980 kb10:12
mac1ActionParsnip: nop, all is freezed even the keyboard, i cannot even ssh into it from another computer10:13
raidgh0stcowtaurog: the size is correct10:13
rasmusthalmoxarife: I tried adding the parameter to the Exec line nothing happens when I try to launch with that at all10:13
cowtaurogi'm going to check the file and everything, but i got it off the torrent, so it should be just fine10:13
cowtaurogit's probably been checked a thousand times10:13
rasmusththis works: http://pastie.org/300443210:14
rasmusthbut I dont know how to apply it to the .desktop app10:14
htmlalmoxarife,  the cashing server10:14
almoxariferasmusth: I don't know what to tell you, run it via terminal, look for errors?10:14
cowtaurogyeah i just want to know wtf that icon means10:14
yamahaalexis ubu /etc/apache2/httpd.conf supposed to be empty?10:14
JLucno10:15
htmlalmoxarife,  i want some thing that with give me the edge for online10:15
cowtauroga file cabinet or something, annd an arrow pointing to some stick figure in a circle10:15
almoxarifehtml: is that what you are looking for? dns caching?10:15
cowtaurogi even tried google image search, noting10:15
htmlalmoxarife,  i dont know , i want my whole house to have a less laggy interent, lower ping  for p2p xbox games and latence10:17
almoxarifehtml: edge? not sure what you are wanting to achive? I find that dnsmasq shaves milsecs from dns lookups, but I use it to actually keep a shitload of garbage from getting thru to the browser, that's an edge I guess10:18
cowtaurogokay so the md5 matches too...10:18
htmloh i have 12 mbp down and 1.3 up10:18
Braden`How do you authenticate for root privs if you select "Login without a password"?10:19
sam22almoxarife is there a GUI utility equal to the terminal TOP ?10:19
htmlalmoxarife,  like stuff  as in adds? :) ihope?      what about ping?10:19
almoxarifehtml: yeap, ads especially10:20
rasmusthgreat, now I rebooted after updates, and it is stuck at checking battery state10:20
almoxarifehtml: I am looking up the app for ping, ping only to the dns server, after that the ping is at the mercy of the closest what ever it is that you are trying to get at10:21
yamahaalexwhat can i do in GEdit when it says could not save, no permission10:21
geoffmccyamahaalex: gksudo gedit and then edit and save10:22
yamahaalexok10:22
yamahaalexhow can i create a new local domain10:22
yamahaalexlike isntead of localhost10:22
htmlalmoxarife,  YEAAAA!!!!  my linux netbook  has it hard enough,,,, like a fat man on a moped.....10:22
almoxarifehtml: look at 'namebench' app for setting up the closest fastest dns10:23
Braden`How do you authenticate for root privs if you select "Login without a password"?10:23
htmlalmoxarife,  google it?10:23
almoxarife!info namebench10:23
ubottunamebench (source: namebench): DNS benchmark utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1+dfsg-2 (oneiric), package size 346 kB, installed size 1544 kB10:23
almoxarifehtml: nope, just install it10:24
ActionParsnipmac1: any bugs reported?10:24
ActionParsnipmac1: what if you use the open driver?10:24
KingfisherHello I want to make a script to archive a web page10:24
geoffmccBraden`: sudo command or if gui app gksudo command10:24
KingfisherI know how to save a webpage with wget10:24
happygoluckyBraden`: i needed to login as root to do nvidia drivers, personally i did sudo passwd root and then set a root pass and logged in10:24
ActionParsnipBraden`: same password you set when you installed10:24
Kingfisherbut how do I download all the images on a webpage with bash?10:24
geoffmcchappygolucky: that is not wise or recomended advice to give10:25
happygoluckygeoffmcc: blah blah blah, i said personally10:25
VustomI have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount help10:25
rasmusthdoes anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?10:25
MahaVishnuhappyface, or you could have just done sudo su and not risked your system security.10:26
ActionParsnipKingfisher: wget -p -k http://www.example.com/10:26
ActionParsnipKingfisher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinWGet10:26
happygoluckyMahaVishnu: that's not my name10:26
KingfisherActionParsnip, winwget is for windows is it not?10:26
KingfisherI'm on Ubuntu10:26
MahaVishnuhappyface, you still saw it. :F10:26
htmlalmoxarife,  http://tinyurl.com/yehoh9g10:26
ActionParsnipKingfisher: it will be the same deal, check the man page to verify10:26
happygoluckyMahaVishnu: and no su after doing a WUBI install was not available to me10:26
almoxarifehtml: then you would need to have this file avail to dnsmasq to remove lots of garbage from your web browser winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt10:27
MahaVishnu*wishes they would get rid of wubi*10:27
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: its ok as a cheap try before you buy10:27
MahaVishnuActionParsnip, half the people in here its cause of wubi.10:27
htmlagree MahaVishnu  ActionParsnip10:27
almoxarifehtml: that's the one, its available thru install too10:28
happygoluckyMahaVishnu: you realize Ubuntu is billed as an intro to linux distribution10:28
MahaVishnuhappygolucky, doesn't mean you need to use wubi when the other options are VERY easy.10:28
MahaVishnuand from what i've seen wubi has a low sucess rate.10:29
MahaVishnusuccess*10:29
cowtaurogok so...10:29
cowtaurogyou'd think there would be better documentation on this10:29
TyropeGreetings, #ubuntu. I'm trying to setup SSH on my box and i'm using this site as my guide, but I can't find the "AllowUsers" line, do I add this somewhere? http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=332810:30
happygoluckyMahaVishnu: that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but i've installed ubuntu in every way and had success with it period, even on playstations10:30
* sattu94 is happy that he began Ubuntu before Wubi came along.. :P10:30
MahaVishnuhappyface, I'm glad ubuntu rocks10:30
cowtaurogall this specific stuff people ask about is all good, but i can't even get the cd to boot -_-10:30
MahaVishnucowtaurog, whats wrong with it? did you check the md510:30
cowtaurogyeah the md5 matches10:30
Tyropecowtaurog: did you add your CD drive to the boot sequence in the BIOS?10:31
cowtaurogc396dd0f97bd122691bdb92d7e68fde5 fyi10:31
raidgh0stTyrope: how hard is it to install openssd. (its apt-get install openssh-server)10:31
Tyroperaidgh0st: it's installed, i'm configuring it.10:31
cowtaurogit isn't any of that, i tried the cd, i tried dvd, neither one works10:31
Tyropehence the word 'setup' and not 'install'10:31
MahaVishnucowlicks, describe neither one works ?10:31
raidgh0stTyrope: If its installed. Do you need do modify anything10:31
rasmusthdoes anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?10:31
cowtaurogi have10:31
raidgh0stunless you`re gonan be paraonoia and only have 1 user.10:31
cowtauroganyways it boots from bios to the cd10:32
cowtaurogbut all it does is give a black screen with a weird icon10:32
ActionParsnip!hashes | cowtaurog10:32
ubottucowtaurog: See http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/11.10/MD5SUMS for the md5sums of the latest Ubuntu release10:32
cowtaurogand it's clearly ubuntu10:32
cowtauroghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes10:32
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: is the hash correct?10:32
Tyroperaidgh0st: I'm just wondering why the line isn't showing up. I know it's merely an extra layer of security and probably not required. I am however wondering if missing this line means a faulty install10:32
MahaVishnucowtaurog, you might need the nomodeset option ?10:32
cowtaurogi'm good on using some external site10:33
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: what GPU do you use?10:33
cowtaurogati radeon 240010:33
cowtaurogpretty old10:33
htmlalmoxarife10:33
cowtaurogbut i've never had a problem with ubuntu before10:33
almoxarifecowtaurog: try install with the 'alternate' iso and be hardwired to the internet, try that10:33
cowtaurog...this isn't my first rodeo10:33
htmlalmoxarife,  i have it so now what ?10:33
almoxarifehtml: have?10:34
geoffmccTyrope: no, if its needed you add it10:34
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: try the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=110:34
Tyropegeoffmcc: Thank you. Can i just add it anywhere?10:34
htmlalmoxarife,  namebench,,,,,10:34
Tyrope(on it's own line, ofcourse)10:34
almoxarifehtml: run it?10:34
geoffmccTyrope: yes10:34
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: MD5 is important, it can be needed less if you use torrents due to the protocol10:34
htmlhow?10:34
TyropeThank you very much, geoffmcc.10:34
cowtaurogi can't try a boot option or anything... unless i roll it into the iso and burn another disc10:34
mac1ActionParsnip: i did find someone who reported a similar issue in the ubuntu forums, but nobody replied..10:34
cowtaurogit doesn't even get that far10:35
geoffmccTyrope: maybe best to put below host section though, no problem10:35
ActionParsnipmac1: tried with the open driver?10:35
almoxarifehtml: open a terminal please and type 'namebench'10:35
ActionParsnip!bootoptions | cowtaurog they are applied before grub2 starts to load the kernel on the CD, so you do10:35
ubottucowtaurog they are applied before grub2 starts to load the kernel on the CD, so you do: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset.10:35
cowtaurogokay, i shall try again, and take plenty of pictures with my phone. the resolution on the screen is horrible, nevermind cellphone pics10:36
VustomI have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount, could anyone help me please?10:36
cowtaurogmaybe someone will have seen this before10:36
ActionParsnipcowtaurog: once you get installed it will help, you can then get updated and it should help a lot10:36
mac1ActionParsnip: not yet, could i revert if it does not work ?10:36
rasmusthdoes anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?10:37
almoxariferasmusth: have a batt?10:38
geoffmcccowtaurog: you wouldnt happen to have dual display. 1hdmi and one crt monitor using VGA?10:38
ActionParsnipmac1: sure you can switch back as you wish, just blacklist the nvidia driver and you will make the OS use nouveau10:38
rasmusthalmoxarife: no10:38
raidgh0strasmusth: if the battery is on its time to be replaced it doesnt checking battery state10:38
mac1ActionParsnip: how can i do that ?10:39
almoxariferasmusth: ohh :(10:39
rasmusthno bat10:39
htmlalmoxarife, ok here goes...10:39
VustomHow do I install ms-sys in Ubuntu?10:40
htmlms-sys? whats that ?10:40
ActionParsnipmac1: echo "blacklist nvidia" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf10:40
almoxarifehtml: choose alexa as 'query data source' , so any caching done so far by anything won't effect the test10:40
htmlits not here10:41
geoffmccrasmusth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66146/why-11-10-says-plymouth-errors-and-checking-battery-state10:42
NeilPis this the help channel?10:42
almoxarifehtml: it will show if you click on the source shown10:42
ikoniaNeilP: it is10:42
mac1ActionParsnip: thanks and to revert i remove the line from nvidia.conf ?10:42
NeilPCan I ask for help regarding my administrator account? I just installed ubuntu yesterday and I love it but after I set my account to no password, it still asks for a password during authentication...10:43
rasmusthgeoffmcc: thanks10:43
ikoniaNeilP: asks for a password where?10:43
icerootNeilP: dont set an empty password!10:44
NeilPduring installations (software center)10:44
NeilPI just did...ehehe10:44
ikoniaNeilP: how did you set the password to blank ?10:44
NeilPI already tried the root thing though10:44
icerootNeilP: that is the user-password which is asked for10:44
Gentoo64NeilP, thats common when peope come from window10:44
querierHi there, im remastering linux and wonder if I can reduce the .iso's size by deleting packages to be installed. Can I list up standard ubuntu packages sorted by size?10:44
NeilPI just set it to no password10:44
ikoniaNeilP: where ?10:44
NeilPWhen I try to change my password, the cursor goes to the new password immediately, it doesn't ask for the current one. But the Change button is dimmed10:45
NeilP-user accounts10:45
geoffmccNeilP: although you set it to no password on login, to do things that require root access you need to authenticate10:45
ikoniaI do not believe the user-accounts gui should allow you to set a null password10:45
NeilPyeah, Im trying to do the sudo commands10:45
VustomI have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount, could anyone help me please?10:46
icerootikonia: i does not allow it10:46
NeilPwell, it says on the user accounts: Password None10:46
icerootikonia: i guess he means "autologin"10:46
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happygoluckymac1: no offense to ActionParsnip but i have a gtx card and I had to blacklist nouveau so what is suggested seems crazy to me but if it works it works10:46
ikoniaiceroot: then how has he set it to no password10:46
ikoniaNeilP: did you set it to autologin ?10:46
icerootikonia: vim on /etc/shadow? :)10:46
ActionParsniphappygolucky: trying either is fine, it's free :)10:46
ikoniaiceroot: I pray not10:46
icerootikonia: i bet he is talking about something diffrent10:47
geoffmccNeilP: but the password you created during install is still the password for sudo10:47
happygoluckyActionParsnip: my sentiments precisely10:47
ActionParsniphappygolucky: or even both, no offence taken. As long as the goal is reached I don't care10:47
NeilPi have autologin activated10:47
NeilPhow do I use the sudo command to change passwd for my account?10:47
icerootNeilP: you dont use sudo to change your password10:47
mac1happygolucky: :) i dont reaaly know, what to do.. i'll try to install xfce and see if i can switch users in it10:48
VustomNo one can help me? :(10:48
icerootNeilP: with sudo you change/set the rott-password10:48
icerootnfor changing your own password you use "passwd"10:48
htmlwhe3re do i post my screen shots?10:48
icerootNeilP: ^10:48
iceroot!paste | html10:48
ubottuhtml: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:48
NeilPokay..I tried using the 'passwd' in the root thing10:48
NeilPbut it just says authentication fail10:49
icerootNeilP: post the exact command you used and the error message10:49
geoffmccNeilP: ok. lets start over. what is it that you are trying to do,10:49
NeilPim trying to set a new password for my admin account10:49
icerootNeilP: and post what you tried to do/though it is doing10:49
htmliceroot,  thats for text.. i need picture bin10:50
mac1ok thanx folks for the help10:50
icerootNeilP: admin-account = root? or the sudo-user in the admin-group?10:50
mac1see ya10:50
rasmusthis it possible to auto login to unity-2d10:50
happygoluckymac1: personally i'd put nouveau.blacklist=true before quiet splash inside of grub, you'll have to edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo grub-mkconfig10:50
iceroothtml: read the text again10:50
geoffmccNeilP: whenever you set the password on the default account it becomes the sudo password10:50
NeilPThis is the first account made by ubuntu for me.10:50
icerootNeilP: and you want to change the password from your default user?10:50
almoxarifeNeilP: did you at the time of installation decide to leave the passwords blank? or you blanked them after the fact?10:50
NeilPI set it to no password...which was a big mistake10:50
geoffmccNeilP: well you set it to auto login, but you still set a password10:50
icerootNeilP: so your normal user does not have a password at the moment?10:51
NeilPYes10:51
NeilPit does not have a password at the moment10:51
NeilPBut I have autologin enabled10:51
icerootNeilP: "sudo df" is that asking for a password?10:51
almoxarifeno password means no sudo then??10:51
rasmusthNeilP: but then you cannot use either VNC or SSH?10:51
NeilPthe only sudo ive tried is 'su -s'10:51
icerootNeilP: that is a root-shell10:51
icerootNeilP: not sudo10:52
NeilPokay, im sorry i dont know VNC and SSH10:52
NeilPoh...okay.10:52
icerootNeilP: again! post the exact command you are using10:52
geoffmccNeilP: during install you set a password, you then set to autologin.. the password you set is still valid10:52
htmlalmoxarife, http://imagebin.org/18819010:52
NeilPit doesnt accept the original password10:52
geoffmccNeilP: if you dont know what it is jsut do passwd from terminal and reset or go to accounts and reset threw gui10:52
geoffmccNeilP: i find its easier to just passwd from a terminal10:52
NeilPdo you mean terminal as in that boot thing you do before the OS starts10:53
NeilPlike going to recov mode?10:53
icerootNeilP: what command does not accept the password?10:53
NeilPthe passwd command10:53
icerootNeilP: please dont let us guess here10:53
geoffmccNeilP: no terminal. command line interface... like cmd.exe in windows10:53
NeilPI used passwd Neil10:53
NeilPthen it says enter UNIX password10:53
icerootNeilP: what is the output of "whoami"10:53
NeilPhavent tried thta10:54
icerootNeilP: and you are calling "passwd"?10:54
geoffmccNeilP: while loged itno the account you want to change the password on just use passwd then enter then it will guide u threw password change10:54
willis111hai10:54
willis111I'm having some troubles w/rt2870 usb 10.04 lts10:54
happygoluckyis it me or does everyone want NeilP to get back to the freaking command line and do stuff10:54
happygolucky:)10:55
willis111tried building the sta driver from the ralink site but no love10:55
almoxarifehtml: the version I have is 1,3,1 , where did you get namebench from? what version of ubuntu?10:55
htmlalmoxarife, http://imagebin.org/188190 this is what i see , it just tested the bowser(firefox10:55
willis111the device shows up with the stock rt2870usb driver but wont do anything10:55
htmlalmoxarife,  software center > search  {namebench} its the only one there10:56
willis111err rt2800usb/rt2x0010:56
happygoluckyNeilP: i dunno what you have access to or dont but if you needed to record a pass you could unshadow and crack it with john the ripper10:56
htmlalmoxarife,  how do i see what im running ? like command line?10:56
NeilPokay thanks for the help guys10:57
almoxarifehtml: ok, so run it as is10:57
ActionParsnip!info namebench10:57
ubottunamebench (source: namebench): DNS benchmark utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1+dfsg-2 (oneiric), package size 346 kB, installed size 1544 kB10:57
ActionParsnip!info namebench precise10:57
ubottu'precise' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable10:57
willis111works great on my gentoo system, just emerged the sta drivers/firmware10:57
almoxarifehtml: what version of ubuntu you got?10:57
ActionParsniphtml: lsb_release -sc10:58
ActionParsnipalmoxarife: it's 1.3.1 in precise too10:58
willis111!info rt2870*10:59
ubottuPackage rt2870 does not exist in oneiric10:59
almoxarifehtml: something smells10:59
willis111!info rt2800usb10:59
ubottuPackage rt2800usb does not exist in oneiric10:59
htmlActionParsnip,  thanks a ton :)... trying to get around to commandlind ,, its a little hard10:59
htmlalmoxarife,  ? huh lol11:00
htmlalmoxarife, lol i smell it to ...11:00
ActionParsniphtml: I gave the exact command, so no need to be able to get around, you just need to be able to copy andpaste11:01
ActionParsniphtml: what is the output of the command please?11:01
almoxarifehtml: your version of the thing is not what is avail, you got an error loading alexa , I saw it on your term, soooooooooooooooooooooooooo11:01
htmlmaveric11:01
ActionParsnip!info namebench maveric11:01
ubottu'maveric' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable11:01
ActionParsnip!info namebench maverick11:01
ubottunamebench (source: namebench): open-source DNS benchmark utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2+dfsg-1 (maverick), package size 178 kB, installed size 604 kB11:02
willis111what kernel is 11.10 using with updates?11:02
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ActionParsnip!info linux-image-generic11:03
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0.14.16 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all armel powerpc)11:03
willis111tyvm11:03
ActionParsnipnp11:03
MahaVishnuso the kernel is only 32kb ?11:03
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: its a meta package only11:04
ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: like ubuntu-desktop11:04
htmlalmoxarife,  huhuhuhuhu??? what is your subject to your last comment?11:04
MahaVishnuahh. yea I didn't think it could be 32kb11:04
NeilPI just knew that the terminal is different from the root shell o_O. I solved it! thanks! haha11:04
willis111and 10.04 is 2.6.36?11:04
almoxarifehtml: nevermind alexa, run it, close down firefox if its open11:04
willis1112.6.32*11:04
htmlalmoxarife,  plaese what was you talking about ?11:05
willis111or do I have to sync portage or whatever?11:06
almoxarifehtml: I assumed you were at 11.10, I asked for the version, I got no response, so I assumeddddddddddddddd,11:06
MahaVishnuActionParsnip, kernel is vmlinuz or initrd ?11:07
almoxarifehtml: the point of using the alexa list is to insure you are not hitting on already cached dns entries, but I don't know why it crashed on your system11:08
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willis111vmlinuz11:08
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ActionParsnipMahaVishnu: both afaik11:09
ServerTechLaptopEncrypted HDD shows 'umountable drive' after entering pass11:10
afeijohi guys, I installed compizconfig-settings-manager but yet, compiz is no working for my brand new 11.10, what else does it need?11:11
htmlalmoxarife,  lol  i am slow at typing  i'll get there in the end...  and i really dont like unity for old, slow pcs , -hich everyone has     , there to much of a learning curve  for newbles lunix users , and still a pain to figure out for me ...... if i get i faster , newer one then maybe i give it a run.... and kubuntu ,,,,,, anyway11:11
willis111!info hostapd11:13
ubottuhostapd (source: hostapd): user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.3-2build1 (oneiric), package size 359 kB, installed size 964 kB11:13
htmlalmoxarife,  well i dont want to do that .... alexa list thinnggyyy... mmmm  what is it?11:14
almoxarifehtml: you don't need to use unity, I don't, I use gnome shell, one big blank screen too, I also use cairo-dock, cause its far simpler to get at stuff, and to boot, since ubuntu lacks in some utils I took them from kubuntu, so I guess I am running a cairo-gno-ku11:14
willis111tacos rule11:14
rasmusthok so after having updated ubuntu, xbmc is super slow in menus, as if GFX is not working11:15
almoxarifehtml: don't want to do? lost you?11:15
htmlalmoxarife,  post a pic or video11:16
sokakHallo, 'sup?11:16
keepguessingHi, I am having python dump on a mount point. I have mounted that at a place such as /commonapps/mntpnt/python2.6/ now I have python 2.7 installed [on ubuntu 11.10] How can I make use of both python 2.7 preinstalled and the python 2.6 mounted?11:17
rasmusthhow can I check if my gfxis accelerating11:18
sokakrasmusth, turn on compiz and see if is crawling or not11:19
rasmusthsokak: I think compiz has some bug with my gfx11:21
rasmusthnever worked11:21
sokakwhich gpu and which drivers you have?11:22
Anomie21How do you install openoffice? Can't see it in the software centre for some weird reason. sudo apt-get install openoffice doesn't work either.11:25
icerootAnomie21: sudo apt-get install libreoffice11:27
Anomie21iceroot: I already have libreoffice, Its not very good though so I'm trying to install Oo11:27
sokakThey are almost the same11:27
icerootAnomie21: there is no openoffice anymore in the repos its replaced with libreoffice11:27
sokakbtw, go on openoffice website and download the deb -.-11:28
geoffmccAnomie21: assuming your on 11.10 --- http://www.fossapps.com/2011/12/01/how-to-install-openoffice-in-ubuntu-11-10/11:28
icerootlake: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice and at the moment they are the same11:28
DarkStar1How do I get the size of my FS in CLI?11:28
Anomie21sokak: libreoffice is unable to open some microsoft word files properly11:28
icerootDarkStar1: df -h11:28
DarkStar1I know it's du but can't remember the options11:28
icerootAnomie21: but openoffice is?11:28
icerootDarkStar1: man du  to see the options11:28
Anomie21iceroot: Well, the PC version is - I've not tried it on ubuntu11:28
sokakAnomie21, the whole point is to not handlòe anymore office files :P11:28
Anomie21sokak: Yes but when 90% of the world uses office it's inevitable11:29
keepguessingwhen I run ldconfig -p I see that there are a lot of so mapped to files whose location has changed. how I change these to point to right locations?11:29
sokakAnomie21, i dont care of the whole world11:29
Anomie21sokak: Yes but when you have a job you need to.11:29
sokakAnomie21, i dont have a job :P11:30
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: df -h11:30
DarkStar1cheers guys11:30
sokakheyas11:31
dumanshiii11:31
rasmusthit says in ubuntu that my gfx is not currently in use11:31
rasmusthany ideas?11:31
ActionParsniprasmusth: what video chip11:31
sokakQuestion. Is better to shred or to badblock to make an hdd spew all the possible bad sectors?11:31
rasmusth940011:31
ActionParsniprasmusth: what manufacturer, both ati and nvidia do a 940011:32
sokakrasmusth, using binary nvidia drivers or nuveou?11:32
sokakagh, cant type properly11:32
rasmusthsokak I reinstalled them from ssh because it couldn't boot after updating ubuntu11:33
rasmusthit's nvidea11:33
ikoniarasmusth: from the nvidia.com website11:33
ikonia?11:33
sokakrasmusth, where you got the drivers? Try xswat ppa :311:33
ActionParsniprasmusth: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current11:33
rasmusthActionParsnip: that was what I did11:34
sokakthats good said11:34
sokakahh11:34
simion314hi, is there a way to enable the fron panel headphone and microphone jacks on a desktop? I found some instructions on google to edit alsa.conf  but i am not sure if that will work in current versions of ubuntu11:34
ActionParsniprasmusth: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot11:34
ActionParsnipsimion314: does the system have a make and model?11:35
sokakthat may work, but on my 570 i feel beter with xswat updated drivers11:35
sokakrasmusth, you may try as well sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates11:35
rasmusthokay sokak11:35
rasmusthand then afterwards?11:36
sokakthen apt-get update and apt-get install nvidia-current11:36
sokakor let jokey do graphically the dirty job11:36
simion314ActionParsnip: this is my motherboard ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3  i can give more details about the hardware if needed11:36
zewbyes hello11:37
zewbifconfig doesnt seem to be working11:37
zewbin my fresh ubuntu install11:37
sokakdoes anybody knows if i can enable pci passtrough on an Asus M4N98TD EVO?11:37
ActionParsnipsimion314: if you run:  alsamixer   are all the levels unmuted and cranked?11:38
stephnimy cd rom is not working11:38
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SachADaymy multimedia keys are detected but dont work on oneric, they worked in natty11:38
simion314ActionParsnip: yes11:38
stephnii insert a cd it won't show anything i go to properties it writes unknown11:38
ActionParsnipSachADay: if you run:  xev   do they make events?11:39
sokakSachADay, does xev throws output when you press them?11:39
stephnisomebody help11:39
sokakhehe sorry ;)11:39
ActionParsnipsimion314: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh11:39
SachADayyes ActionParship and sokak11:39
sokakstephni, tried another cd?11:39
simion314ActionParsnip: the "Headphone" in alsamixer is grayedout/disabled11:39
stephnii tried all the cd even those ones working before11:40
stephnithe cd rom will just rotate and stop11:40
ActionParsnipSachADay: then go into the keyboard options and change the desired action to the keypress11:40
stephniand i is a new cd rom i just changed today11:40
SachADayyes ActionParssnip and sokak11:41
sokakstephni, just check twice the wirings, and if the bios sees the drive11:41
rasmusthsokak: then I reboot right?11:41
stephniok11:41
sokakrasmusth, yeah, and good luck :)11:41
rasmusththanks11:41
SachADayActionParsnip i've already set the shortcuts11:41
SachADayActionParsnip still it never worked11:42
rasmusthit really makes no sense that people say ubuntu is so out of the box11:42
simion314ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ec31337d93c4e2fc9753ca3a579d612a5d2c182611:42
sokakrasmusth, its a matter of luck, on my new rig worked like a breeze11:42
sokakwe can say basically it will work out of the box on the vast majority of rigs11:42
rasmusthheh11:43
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sokaktoo old or too new hardware, can give unknown results11:43
rasmusthhow do I check if it is working?11:43
llutz.. like vast majority of other distros11:43
sokaki do agree llutz11:43
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ActionParsnipsimion314: keep hold of that, its dead useful. My sound troubleshooting isn't great11:44
rasmusthgod11:44
rasmusththis driver is activated but not currently in use11:44
rasmusthall because I update ubuntu11:44
rasmusthwell done OS11:44
ActionParsniprasmusth: all my hardware does, never had to do anything except on one box I have to install nvidia-current11:44
sokakim sticking with maverick until ill migrate to arch ;311:44
simion314ActionParsnip: thx for your time11:45
rasmusthdoes anybody have an idea of how to troubleshoot when my gfx does not get used11:45
JLuchello11:46
sokakrasmusth, usually when i get deadly tired of issues, i wipe any config folder on my home partition, and reinstall from scratch11:46
rasmusthbut I just installed11:46
sokakoh :311:46
sinosoidalhi, i'm trying to get a kernel module loaded at boot time. but it fails to load. i copied the file to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen11:46
rasmusthlike a month ago11:46
sokaki still have to try anything later than Maverick11:47
sokaki was cool with that, and i kept sticking with it11:47
sokakwell, sometimes the nvidia driver goes haywire, i should really move with later kernels on a distro without unity or gnome 3 ;311:48
* SachADay is the first person to kick his own ass11:48
Anomie21I tried to follow that Oo tutorial but there is no /DEBS/ folder in the extracted folder, so sudo dpkg -i *.deb doesn't work11:48
sokakAnomie21, tried yet to just get a deb package from Ooo webpage?11:49
ActionParsnipsinosoidal: you may need to run: sudo depmod -a11:49
sinosoidalActionParsnip: let me try11:49
Anomie21sokak: Yeah it was the deb one I downloaded11:50
sokakAnomie21, and isnt installing any way?11:50
rasmusthhow do I wipe the faulty driver I have for GFX11:50
Anomie21sokak: OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-GB.tar.gz.11:50
rasmusthso that I can get back to the one that ubuntu recommended11:50
sinosoidalActionParsnip: yeap! it is that11:50
sinosoidal;)11:50
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Anomie21sokak: I extracted the .tar.gz but it doesn't have any .deb files in it, it has some .rpm files though?11:50
sokakrasmusth, apt-get purge nvidia* should work11:51
openbeeswhen i am trying to copy and paste any file or folder in "/var/www" apache giving me error "403 forbidden" what is the problem how can i overcome to this problem11:51
sokakAnomie21, look better in their download page, there *is* a deb package :)11:51
JLucIs 'alias' command the same as 'ln -s' ?11:51
llutzJLuc: no11:52
sokakopenbees, permission check anyone?11:52
openbeessokak : owner is www-data and myuser name is in group11:53
Anomie21sokak: Yeah, thats the one I've been downloading - from http://download.openoffice.org/other.html labeled ; Linux      x86-64 DEB11:53
htmlsomeone say my name?11:54
orolinhtml11:54
html? lol  orolin11:54
DarkStar1how do I find out the current release of my ubuntu?11:55
orolinyou ask you get :)11:55
zewbHELLO FRIENDS11:55
sokakDarkStar1, just open the system monitor ;)11:55
zewbHELLO FRIENDS11:55
FloodBot1zewb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:55
llutzDarkStar1: lsb_release -a11:55
htmllsb_release -sc11:55
openbees when i am trying to copy and paste any file or folder in "/var/www" apache giving me error "403 forbidden" what is the problem how can i overcome to this problem11:55
DarkStar1sokak: I'm on a remote server11:55
DarkStar1llutz: thx11:55
sokak:P11:55
ActionParsnipDarkStar1: lsb_release -sc11:56
sokakAnomie21, you downloaded it from this link? http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz11:56
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by OpenOffice.org: HTTP Error 404: Not Found (http://openoffice.org/issues/xml.cgi?id=3)11:56
Anomie21sokak: yep, thats the one11:56
ActionParsnipopenbees: run your file browser with gksudo11:56
sokakAnomie21, its odd, i downloaded it that way and worked like a breeze :311:57
DarkStar1Also I just created a user using useradd but it seems the groups and home directory were not created for it11:57
llutzDarkStar1:easier to use adduser11:57
Anomie21What do you do with the .tar.gz? double click it, extract it somewhere and then cd into the extracted directory and try to dpkg?11:57
dr_willisDarkStar1:  i think 'adduser' gives defaults for those. useradd requires you to give the info.11:57
dr_willisAnomie21:  depends on whats in  the tar.gz11:58
openbeesActionParsnip : i don't know what do wanna say11:58
DarkStar1dr_willis: ook11:58
openbeesActionParsnip :ERROR "I am not getting you"11:58
ActionParsnipopenbees: the foler is not owner by your user, it's owned by root, so you can run:  gjksudo nautilus   and you can write stuff to the folder11:59
openbeesi tried so ..but not working11:59
sokakopenbees, it should work, otherwise something is horribly wrong12:00
tightworkIs ubuntu ubuntuish?12:00
ikoniawhat ?12:01
sokakAnomie21, yes, the .tar.gz should contain the deb packages, from there you can install them with dpkg, or any other usual way12:01
sokaktightwork, then arch is architectural >.>12:01
tightworkhow so?12:02
ikoniatightwork: what are you talking about ?12:03
tightworkubuntu12:03
ikoniatightwork: what about it ?12:03
tightworkthis is #ubuntu right?12:03
sokaktightwork, seems so. Define ubuntuish plox.12:04
MonkeyDusttightwork  the ubuntu support channel, so do you have a support question12:04
tightworkI do12:04
diverdudeahhhh my new W520 Lenovo lean mean terminator killing machine has arrived :D ohhhhhh daddy12:05
sokakcongrats12:06
rasmusthomgh12:06
diverdudethx....thats gonna run ubuntu 11.1012:06
sokakdoes exists a tweak to have devede installed with libavformat52,libpostproc51 and libswscale0?12:08
sokakim getting used to ffmpeg, but i would like to have it back for some lazy encding tasks.12:08
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redI put my laptop to play music and connected it to the microphone port of my main PC -- I can see the "rear microphone line input" in sound panel moving so the sound is getting to my PC -- how do I make it audible directly?12:12
sokakwell, kudos to you all nice people, quitting for now :)12:12
redoo, figured it out12:14
sattu94Hi, i have set up a vnc server, on ubuntu lucid. Can i have a login screen (like xdm) shown when a person logs in through vnc connection ?12:16
Anomie21Hmm, downloaded the .PPD for my printer, test page printed fine. But cant see the printer from within Libreoffice?12:17
ActionParsnipAnomie21: does the printer show in the systsm-printer-config  app?12:18
sattu94instead of the earlier session that was active ?12:18
Anomie21ActionParsnip: If that's the app that appears when you type 'Printers' into the alt-f2 panel in unity, then yeah12:18
htmlalmoxarife,  heloo?12:18
ActionParsnipAnomie21: same thing :012:19
Anomie21ActionParsnip: nevermind, restarted Libreoffice and it was there. :)12:20
AntonisHello I have recently installed ubuntu 11.10 and I face some problem when I move files from one partition to another. I didn't have this problem when I was running ubuntu 10.10 but now I move 3 movies (~4GB in total) and the whole system freezes during the whole transfer/move process.. what could be causing this? I also tried to move using terminal to be sure it's not a nautilus matter but same there..12:21
rasmusthAMAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAD12:21
ActionParsnipAnomie21: sweet12:23
rasmusthnow my ubuntu is stuck at ubuntu loading screen with all dots blue12:23
raidgh0stTrying to figure out why ubuntu says i have 15700mb ram and not 1612:23
ActionParsnipraidgh0st: do you use onboard video?12:23
raidgh0stActionParsnip: using my Ati radeon Hd 690012:24
ActionParsnipraidgh0st: may be the ram allotment for the pciexpress slot12:24
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raidgh0stBut thats okey. 15700 is still alot:p12:25
ActionParsnipraidgh0st: damn right12:25
raidgh0stWhat is the diff from FGLRX (post-release-updates12:25
raidgh0stand the one without (post-release-updates)12:25
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yoggHave someone an idea how i can get the dns server from dhcp, but not change the configuration of my interfaces?12:26
icerootraidgh0st: apt-get changelog packagename12:26
sipioryogg: yes, you can specify exactly what information you'd like from the dhcp server. have a look at the dhclient.conf man page.12:27
raidgh0sticeroot: must be more spesific12:28
ikoniayogg: you tell the dhcp server to offer dns servers, however it is very unnormal to do this without offering an IP12:28
yoggsipior: thx12:28
ActionParsnipyogg: do you not get IP via DHCP too?12:28
icerootraidgh0st: apt-get source packagename  and then diff the packages12:28
yoggikonia: i can't change anything on the dhcp server    i only can ask him for the dns servers ^^12:29
ikoniayogg: why are you trying to do this /12:29
yoggikonia: I would not insert the dns servers not into my resolv,conf but in my "/etc/bind/named.conf.options" as forwarders12:30
ikoniayogg: that is not a dhcp option12:31
ikoniayogg: dhcp does not configure names.conf12:31
yoggi know12:31
ikoniayogg: ok, so what exactly are you trying to do and why ?12:31
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Antonisanyone?12:31
yoggikonia: i write an script that gets the dns servers from dhcp and write it to the bind conf as forwarders12:32
icerootAntonis: fat32?12:32
ikoniayogg: do the dns servers change from dhcp or are they the same ones you get each time ?12:32
Antonisiceroot, no.. from ext4 to NTFS or from NTFS to NTFS12:32
raidgh0stseems like the post update is new12:32
raidgh0stand the other one is a old12:33
icerootAntonis: any usefull errors when using cp on the shell?12:33
icerootraidgh0st: the versions and changelogs will tell you12:33
Antonisiceroot, nothing everything works fine but it takes a hell of a time (that didn't happen before) and the whole system freezes in periods12:33
rasmusthguys12:33
rasmusthcan any of you help me?12:33
yoggikonia: i have something like an router. the router provides an dns server and must provide all dns informations behind him (forwarders). And the router moves from one network to another12:33
rasmusthmy GFX is constantly not in use12:33
icerootAntonis: is "top" showing a high value for "%wa"?12:34
raidgh0stHurray. I got a error: Sorry, but the install failed. see logfile for details: /var/log/jockey.log12:34
Antonisiceroot, what is %wa?12:34
ikoniayogg: this does not sound lke a good solution12:34
yoggikonia: what would be a better one?12:34
ikoniayogg: running a dns server on a changing ip network  is not good12:34
icerootAntonis: the value for io-wait12:35
raidgh0sticeroot: http://login.kristshell.net/~raidghost/jockey.txt12:35
yoggikonia: the network on the "lan" side does not change    only on the "wan" side12:35
ikoniayogg: that is bad then, you should not be running a local dns server on a machine that is changing WAN hosts12:35
ikoniayogg: use the dns servers provided for you, rather than running a local one12:35
Antonisiceroot, I am transfering files right now and top is running but nautilus is not there12:36
yoggikonia: the local one is a must have. else it would not be possible to reach the webinterface of this "router" with "www.example.local"12:36
ikoniayogg: sorry, I disagree and I disagree with the solution.12:37
ActionParsnipyogg: local dns makes web access faster. I always install dnsmasq on systems :)12:37
ikoniasimpley put an entry in the host file for the router12:37
Yanch0guys anyone can help me set up a wifi pci card. the drivers have been installed using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 .. using wifiradar i can see the WEP connection im trying to connect to. however when i try to connect it keeps on connecting and no error yet it doesnt connect12:37
dmorfinikonia: the thousands of people using dd-wrt (and dnsmasq) disagree with you ;)12:38
spowHi, i'm hqving problems with unity on 11.10 so I installed and used gnome classic instead, but no icons appear on my desktop anymore, even though they still exist in the FS12:38
yoggikonia: i have not found a better solution. but if you have an idea it would be nice :)12:38
ikoniayogg: just put an entry in your host file12:38
yoggActionParsnip: yes dnsmasq was my first idea but i needed more12:38
spowI can't drag/drop files from anywhere to the desktop, and that zorked on unity12:39
ActionParsnipyogg: more what?12:39
yoggActionParsnip: configuration options, and a own dns zone (example.local)12:40
yoggikonia: can i change the host file on a other system over dhcp?12:40
dmorfinyogg: I had bind running like that for 10+ years, so I don't see the problem.  Just make sure you keep your forwarders in line with the wan network if possible.12:40
spowshould I go back to 10.xx ?12:41
ActionParsnipyogg: you can set static DNS in network manager, set the interface to DHCP (address only) then set the DNS servers to: 127.0.0.1, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.412:41
ActionParsnipyogg: the hosts file isn't much to do with dhcp dude, it wil simply override dns12:42
ikoniayogg: no, but then you can't change anything over DHCP as you said you can't change the dhcp server12:42
yoggdmorfin: the problem was to get the dns servers from the dhcp server and do not change any interface configuration. But with dhclient.conf i can manage it12:42
yoggActionParsnip: ikonia: dmorfin: i write down what my device should do. Takes a few minutes :)12:43
raidgh0stI gonna be in the light.12:44
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dmorfinyogg: I had my dhcp server set to send dns as just my local dns server.  everything worked fine, even when I switched wan networks.12:45
ActionParsnipyogg: if you use dnsmasq, you will need to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf to till it to listen to 127.0.0.112:45
dmorfinyogg: and yes, as ActionParsnip says, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are decent forwarders, assuming your different wan networks have different dns, and you can't switch easily12:45
rasmusthThis driver is activated but not currently in use. How do I fix this problem?12:46
ravedoganyone that is a cfengine guru here?12:46
almoxariferasmusth: that's a bug, i see the same thing and mine is in use, google it12:47
ActionParsnipyogg: over time, dnsmasq will learn most of the resolutions you need :)12:47
rasmusthalmoxarife: I dont understand why xbmc would use 100% cpu in menu then12:48
Antonisso iceroot any ideas?12:48
raidgh0stActionParsnip: for some seconds i thought you said "dmesg will learn mo9st of the resolutions you need :p12:48
raidgh0stI really see a diff from p4 2.2Ghz 4Gb ram and a i5 3.0Ghz with ssd12:49
Antoniscould it be the way I mount the ntfs drives?12:49
ActionParsnipraidgh0st: heheh12:49
icerootAntonis: not really12:49
ActionParsnipraidgh0st: put your browser web cache in tempfs or on a platter based drive12:49
icerootAntonis: you are using ntfs-3g? can you show the complete mount-options? "mount" will show them12:50
Antonisiceroot, give me a second cause I am moving files right now and everything freezes12:50
Yanch0all i'm seeing in dmesg | tail is : [  737.468271] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 1212:51
ActionParsnipraidgh0st: it'll reduce wear on the SSD as well as speed up web browsing12:51
icerootAntonis: ok12:51
almoxariferasmusth: can't say, I don't see the same cpu hogging, btw, does xbmc see the gpu?12:52
Antonisiceroot, should I paste them here or somewhere else? or do you want just one of them?12:52
rasmusthalmoxarife: no12:53
yoggikonia: ActionParsnip: dmorfin: I hope this explains my problem better: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/519673/12:53
almoxariferasmusth: do you have the bios option to force the gpu rather the onboard? assuming you have that setup?12:54
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rasmusthI have only one gpu12:55
rasmusthno onboard12:55
Antonisiceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/767838/12:55
ActionParsnipyogg: bad link afaics, can you PM the text :)12:56
dr_willisxbmc does use fancy compositing and other eye candy i recall.  never noticed it being much of a load on my nvidia systems.12:56
ActionParsnipyogg: my admins are strict and the proxy hates pastebins12:56
Mitoshi12:56
ActionParsniphi Mitos12:56
htmlhi12:56
Antonisalso iceroot I use a tool to automount them (in ubuntu 10.10 I did it myself through fstab)12:57
rasmusthwould the fact that I boot to 2D have anything to say?12:57
icerootAntonis: sorry i am busy at the moment i will try to look through it later12:57
BluesKajHey folks12:57
MitosI have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 in virtualbox... If I set 2 network card(one nat and one internal network) connections don't work... If I set only Nat connection works...12:57
Antonisok no problem just let me know when you can =)12:57
Mitosmaybe I need special package... I use ubuntu minimal...12:59
ActionParsnipMitos: how are you defining the network addressing?12:59
Mitosinternal network: 192.168.66.1 subnet 255.255.255.013:00
ActionParsnipMitos: no, what are you using to set the address, not what is the address13:00
MitosI used vboxmanage.exe dhcpclient add etc...13:01
MitosWith ifconfig I saw the network cards, eth0 and eth1, with right ip and subnet...13:01
ActionParsnipMitos: so all the addressing comes from dhcp?13:02
Mitosyes, from dhcp...13:02
ActionParsnipMitos: you may need to set the internal as static so it doesn't get a default gateway set13:03
Mitoswith lubuntu desktop edition I haven't problems... I use the same configuration, with two cards, and I don't have problems...13:04
Mitoscan you explain better your solution please?13:04
rasmusthhow can I test if my gfx is being used on ubuntu 11.1013:05
ActionParsnipMitos: if your system has 2 default gateways it will get confused13:05
ActionParsniprasmusth: run 3d things like games13:05
MitosHow can test if I have two gateway???13:06
ActionParsnipMitos: ifconfig; route    should tell you a lot13:06
Mitosone moment :)13:07
MonkeyDustMitos  type dig13:07
fa1c0n:(13:07
htmldhcp what mean , and whats it do?13:08
MonkeyDusthtml  dhcp gives ip addresses to your network devices13:08
MonkeyDusthtml  dhcp means dynamic host control protocol or something13:09
Mitoshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/767847/13:09
querierHi :) What is the very basic list of packages ubuntu needs to run? I dont mind if e.g. libreoffice is turned off/deleted13:11
dr_willis!minimal13:11
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:11
dr_willisquerier:  depends on what you want running. :) X or not.. and so on.13:11
ActionParsnipquerier: you can install ubuntu minimal then install openbox for a very small install13:12
MitosActionParsnip Did you see my paste???13:12
querierdr_willis: yes X is fine. ActionParsnip well ubuntu is installed and should be slimmed now.13:13
DarkStar1how do I add myself to the admin group?13:13
llutzDarkStar1: if you aren't root and no sudo-user, you can't13:13
llutzDarkStar1: sudo adduser username admin13:14
DarkStar1llutz: thx13:14
diverdudeHello...is there a better interface than the unity and gnome in ubuntu?13:14
luis_hi there, wanted some support on some trouble with suspend: when trying to do it, goes to black screen and then back to the userspace. here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/767854/13:14
searchingfirefox type ubuntu % hit enter and no list why? is bug?13:15
ActionParsnipMitos: i cant view pasts, my admins have clamped down the web to the maxxx13:15
ActionParsnipMitos: can you PM me the text please13:15
mick_laptopdiverdude: there are a few, there is xfce, kde and there are others. google: linux window manager and look at youtube/image search13:16
ActionParsnipluis_: what GPU are you using?13:16
luis_ActionParsnip, how can I figure that out?13:16
mick_laptopsearching: I don't understand13:17
MitosIs it possible from webchat to send you PM???13:17
searchingtype ubuntu and % in firefox13:17
luis_ActionParsnip, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)13:17
searchingand hit enter13:17
htmlmoneydust thanks13:18
html\13:18
searchingopen google with firefox and type ubuntu % hit enter13:18
mick_laptophttp://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-813:18
searchingno list :))13:18
mick_laptopno list of what?13:18
searchingof searching13:19
DarkStar1llutz: added my user to the admin group and uncommented the admin line in sudoers but i still can't sudo from my user13:19
llutzDarkStar1: relogin13:19
mick_laptopit opens up google and does a search for "ubuntu %"13:19
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | luis_13:19
ubottuluis_: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:19
searchingyes13:19
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DarkStar1llutz: as my user I have already relogged13:19
mick_laptopsearching: that is the expected result13:20
searchingsomething ubuntu,linux13:20
llutzDarkStar1: "uncommented the admin line in sudoers"  why was it commented?13:20
searchingno result13:20
luis_thanks ActionParsnip, could this be interfering with hibernation too? cause i'm having the same problem with it13:20
ActionParsnipluis_: doubt it13:21
mick_laptopsearching: what exactly are you expecting to happen. give me a sentence not a word13:21
DarkStar1llutz: I assume the % sign meant it's a commented line. but it was the default installation13:21
llutzDarkStar1: its not a comment, its a group. change it BACK13:22
MonkeyDustDarkStar1  # is a commented line13:22
luis_could you help me with that too ActionParsnip? i've posted a bug, but no response so far13:22
luis_https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89861513:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]13:22
DarkStar1llutz:  oops!13:22
luis_i'm needing help with an hibernation problem.  i've posted a bug, but no response so far https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89861513:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]13:29
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dr_willisHmm.13:32
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ActionParsnipluis_: does suspend work?13:32
luis_didn't tried yet13:33
luis_was waiting for an answer on the hibernate problem13:33
ActionParsnipluis_: its teh same ilk so if that works then it will be useful to add to the bug...13:33
luis_oh ok, ActionParsnip , i'll give it a try and then come back here13:34
super789hello13:38
super789where can i find the compatible pci wirelesse card to Lubuntu?13:38
super789*the list13:38
ActionParsnip!hcl13:38
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection13:38
Mitosthanks to ActionParsnip... I solved my problem... I add to /etc/network/interfaces auto eth1;iface eth1 inet dhcp13:38
ActionParsnipMitos: nice13:39
Loqus_In Ubuntu how do I set the MAC address of a VLAN interface?13:39
super789Lubuntu haves the same support has ubuntu?13:39
icerootLoqus_: you cant (imo) its always the mac from the real NIC13:39
ActionParsnipsuper789: yes its an official release now :)13:39
icerootsuper789: wtih 11.10 yes13:39
ActionParsnipLoqus_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/13:39
Monotokosuper789, there isn't a list as such... but most PCI wifi cards should be compatible13:39
MitosI don't understand why ubuntu doesn't released with no program... I don't need office,games,calc...13:40
ActionParsnipLoqus_: or that way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102230113:40
ActionParsnipMitos: use minimal then and install only what you need, its what I do13:40
MonotokoMitos, because the majority of people want it to just work out of the box... the good thing about Linux though is you can build a distro, and there are thousands out there13:40
MitosI use minimal but it needs too work...13:41
ActionParsnipMitos: it will13:41
dagerikwhen i call execvp("ps", args); the newly formed process never exits. how can i exit it?13:41
wide_awakegood morning13:42
Picidagerik: That would be a more appropriate question for ##C13:42
wide_awakehow can I tell unity to open a second instance of an app (specifically nautilus)13:42
Mitosbye :)13:43
Loqus_Thanks ActionParsnip... I know I can change it on a physical MAC, but I wasn't sure how it would work on a VLAN MAC... when changing a physical MAC, the Interface's HW MAC register is changed so that outgoing frames are generated with the new MAC (on restart this is reset on the HW, then changed back by the OS on config)... but on a VLAN does it dynamically change the frame SRC MAC register with each outgoing frame, or does it do so13:43
theadminwide_awake: It doesn't do that... Try Ctrl+T in Nautilus and such other shortcuts. Nautilus is tabbed for a reason :P13:43
wide_awaketheadmin, I hate to admit, but I never knew that nautilus was tabbed before ;)13:44
wide_awaketheadmin, thanks!13:44
theadminwide_awake: np13:44
geethello I need help in adding pthread library to gcc13:44
super789i can buy the TL-WN851N but in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link it appears that is haves some problems in 11.04 but i have 11.10 lubuntu. how can i know if the problem has been fixed?13:45
luis_ActionParsnip, nomodeset didn't work. It even disabled high resolution and Unity 3d13:45
geetHello...Need Help13:45
queriertheadmin: nautilus doesnt want you to drag and drop with 2 open windows?13:45
dr_williscant just middle click on the nautilus icon?13:45
dr_willisF3 in nautilus also opens a split window i belive13:46
BarkingFishgeet, have patience. If you wait for a while, someone will get round to helping you :)13:46
dr_willisgeet:  thers also more programming specific chennels13:46
geetcan u recommend one?13:47
ActionParsnipsuper789: check bug reports, personally I wouldn't bother if its had issues, look for broadcom based ones. Cheap and easy13:47
MonkeyDustgeet  you could start by asking a question13:47
geetI need help for adding pthread.h in gcc13:47
MonkeyDustgeet  that's no question13:47
geetI want to know how can I add that library13:48
geirhageet: What do you mean by "add that library"?13:48
MonkeyDustgeet  too vague, start from the beginning, what do you want to do and what is the purpose13:49
geetI get error "Undefined reference to pthread_create()13:49
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geirhageet: gcc -lpthread ...13:50
ActionParsnipsuper789: my Netgear WG311T works out of the box:)13:50
geetbut this wont compile my program13:50
super789thanks ActionParsnip13:51
jordanmgeet: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search /pthread.h13:51
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Yanch0guys anyone can help me set up a wifi pci card. the drivers have been installed using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 .. using wifiradar i can see the WEP connection im trying to connect to. however when i try to connect it keeps on connecting and no error yet it doesnt connect . all im seeing in dmesg | tail is : [  737.468271] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 1213:51
NYPR-1Hi: I need some guidance on how to install and get my WiFi card working.  I have an old Presario laptop and have found the correct driver.  I do not have the instruction to run the the file. I know that I need to go to the terminal but once there I am lost.13:51
geirhajordanm: I'm pretty sure libc6-dev gets installed along with gcc13:52
ActionParsnipNYPR-1: if you run: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i produ     what is output?13:52
MonkeyDustYanch0  NYPR-1 explore the terminal commands iwlist and iwconfig13:52
jordanmgeirha: it should, since its a recommends, but it is possible that it has not. if the user has changed their apt configuration13:53
luis_ActionParsnip, nomodeset didn't work. It even disabled widescreen resolution and switched to Unity 2D13:53
ActionParsnipYanch0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/45971613:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 459716 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu) "encrypted modes don't work on ndiswrapper wireless adapters" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:53
ActionParsnipluis_: could try the alternate install, install in text mode13:53
Guest43654Yanch0: that often happens to me whenever I forget to take my device out of monitor mode and put it into managed mode13:53
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jordanmgeirha: aptitude install gcc -R will get you gcc without libc6-dev13:54
Yanch0happygolucky, how to do that please?13:54
geirhajordanm: Ah, right. Though a missing header file would give a different error. I really think he just hadn't linked the library.13:55
luis_ActionParsnip, what do you mean by alternate install? this is not a problem on installing. The hibernate and suspend worked perfectly before updating to 11.10 .13:55
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ActionParsnipluis_: there may be a safemode vga option in the boot13:55
geirhajordanm: But, we'll probably never know now :)13:55
luis_ActionParsnip, I can check that, but as far as I recall there isn't13:55
ActionParsnipluis_: maybe the upgrade borked it, could try a clean install13:55
Yanch0http://paste.ubuntu.com/767896/ <= im trying to connect to Cell 0313:56
luis_ActionParsnip, there's no way to work around the problem? it wasn't a direct 11.10 install, but a 11.04 update13:56
luis_ActionParsnip, it seems like there is some process preventing the suspension13:57
happygoluckyYanch0: hm, well try ifconfig <device> down and then iwconfig <device> mode managed and then ifconfig <device> up and then if it still doesn't connect try changing the cards channel to 6 or whaterver it needs to be13:57
luis_ActionParsnip, because when i log in with other user (command line) it works13:58
ActionParsnipluis_: have you added that to the bug?13:58
luis_what i wanted is some way to detect and troubleshoot that. the logs won't give me even the slightest idea of what is happening13:59
luis_i'm adding it right away13:59
luis_what's getting me crazy is that it works some times and other times not.14:00
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cockerinociao14:01
cockerino!list14:01
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:01
cockerinosend list14:01
bbbbbbbbis there a way to stop network manager for the current session?14:02
BluesKaj!it | cockerino14:02
ubottucockerino: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:02
happygoluckybbbbbbbb: service network-manager stop14:04
bbbbbbbbhappygolucky: thanks!14:05
happygoluckybbbbbbbb: you're welcome np14:05
nixmaniackis it ok to make '/etc/pm/power.d/01cpu_online'  non executable? My CPUs go offline quite often14:06
luis_hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/89861514:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]14:06
chaoi'm using xfce14:07
yogg"dhclient -n" "-n Do not configure any interfaces.". If i do this the command does nothing. it simply hangs and does not request an address. Is this a bug (Ubuntu 10.04.3)?14:09
luis_hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/89861514:10
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]14:10
DarkStar1quick question, if I want to store some alias commands should I leave them in the .profile or create the bash_profile? I read in .profile that creating a bash_profile will cause .profile to be ignored14:10
sipioryogg: it's doing what you told it to do; i.e., nothing :-)14:10
cockerinociao14:10
cockerinoxdcc list14:11
yoggsipior: it should not make an configuration, but it should send an dhcp request14:11
sipioryogg: not according to the man page.14:11
BluesKajcockerino, no downloads here !14:12
yoggsipior: "Do not configure any interfaces." does imply "also send no dhcp request"?14:12
sipioryogg: yes.14:12
cockerino!list14:12
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:12
yoggsipior: hmmm   this sucks14:12
super789a question related to wirless14:12
DarkStar1anyone?14:12
sipioryogg: why, what are you attempting?14:12
BluesKajsomebody kick that idiot , cockerino14:13
super789for normal web surfing the max speed of the wireless card make much diference?14:13
sipiorBluesKaj: he does seem to be a slow learner...14:13
super789for example 54mbps vs 300mbps14:13
yoggsipior: i need some information (dns server) from the dhcp server but would not configure my interfaces14:13
dr_willissuper789:  not that ive notived14:13
dr_willissuper789:  for flash videos and so forth. it can.14:14
Guest13329Hi, epiphany browser crashes when I try to add a bookmark. I saw in launchpad that there have been some related issues. Do I need to report this?14:14
dr_willisDarkStar1:  one of those config files mention an .alias file you can put them in.14:15
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  italians use internet for file sharing only, they have no 'internet culture'14:15
dr_willisDarkStar1:  ~/.bash_aliases14:15
super789dr_willis: condering that the connection only allow 300kpbs thoes 54mpbs will never be in full use14:15
super789or it is diferent tpes of speed?14:15
DarkStar1dr_willis: that aliases file doesn't exist so I guess I'll have to create it. Thx14:16
xsaidxhello g guys what does this package  libgl1-mesa-swx1114:16
CrazyThinkerI cannot see all the notification icons even if I set the dconf settings as ['all']14:16
sipioryogg: hmm. might be useful: http://pydhcplib.tuxfamily.org/pmwiki/ , or http://code.google.com/p/dhquery/14:16
MonkeyDustxsaidx  type apt-cache policy [package]14:17
BluesKajMonkeyDust, my understanding is that they've led to beleive that ubuntu chat is a file sharing room ny some misinformed Italian publication, or it's just a nasty tricj on the mags part :P.14:17
sipioryogg: there's also dhcping, in the repositories. i haven't tried that, but you might look into it.14:17
MonkeyDustxsaidx  or type apt-cache search [package]14:17
diverdudeahhhhh after 2 months in mac hell I'm BACK on ubuntu :D14:17
BluesKajerr trick14:17
MonkeyDustBluesKaj  i've heard that italians use irc channels mainly to get information about file sharing14:18
HotkeysI am using ubuntu 11.10 desktop. I cannot get my programs to save to our network share.  I can  write to the share drive with nautilus by cut/pasting from anywhere on my local machine. This is a clean install of 11.10 and libreoffice generates input/output error when trying to save to the share. The share is hosted on Centos. If I run libreoffice as sudo, it fixes the problem, and saves to the share. The problem is I don't want to run my programs suc14:18
BluesKajMonkeyDust, not all italians who use the internet, those who speak english seem to know better14:19
Pici!ot  | BluesKaj MonkeyDust14:20
ubottuBluesKaj MonkeyDust: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:20
happygoluckyHotkeys: have you checked the integrity of the target machine, you're saying input output erroring, sounds bad14:20
luis_hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/89861514:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]14:20
Hotkeyshappygolucky this is our corporate network share. Nobody else is having problems and I can save to it fine using sudo14:20
yoggsipior: thx   dhcping looks good i hope i get something out ^^14:21
xsaidxguys in natty can i install galuim-based driver and which package shud i install thanks14:21
sipioryogg: actually, if you dig into the dhclient.conf man page, there might be another option. you could use the "request" option, and then "supercede" all the answers you get. the information would still be received on your end (just ignored)14:21
jpolohi everybody14:21
dr_willisHotkeys:  look in .gvfs for the mounted directory of the share. try saveing to it that way14:21
dr_willisHotkeys:  you can save to a samba share via sudo? thats very.... weird...14:22
dr_willisHotkeys:  or is it a nfs share?14:22
jpoloI am stuck at the "checking battery state" at boot time can some one help me please?14:22
yoggsipior: i have an dhclient.conf with only "request domain-name-servers;". but it still reconfigures my interface after the request14:23
Deephi, i am on ubuntu, trying to install a video editor, and it says the only way its by Launchpad repo14:25
Deepanyone knows how to use it?14:25
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mick_laptopanyone know how I can bridge a wifi and ethernet connection?  wifirouter -> wlan0 (laptop) -> eth0 (laptop) -----shared to -----> eth0 (desktop)14:26
xanguaDeep: open software center from the dash14:27
mick_laptopI tried to use NetworkManager and select "shared to other computers" under eth0 and so far nothing14:27
mick_laptopI've also checked ip forwarding in the kernel, it is enabled14:27
mick_laptopI'd like the desktop to get a dhcp lease from the router (bridged from the laptop's wifi)14:28
felipe_Brzif I include various files and folder in the apache2.conf file (as per the default ubuntu setup), can I just alter the order of the includes to make the last ones override the previous onds?14:30
felipe_Brz(i asked this at httpd channel but this is apparently closer related to the ubuntu setup rather than apache itself)14:32
bdiHello...im trying to do sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-php5, but it get E: Package 'libapache-mod-php5' has no installation candidate....Has this package been removed?14:32
MonkeyDustbdi  to find out, type apt-cache search libapache-mod*14:33
icerootbdi: libapache2-mod-php514:33
arlo_anyone can help me with subdomain in apache?14:35
henry9k1hello peeps14:36
henry9k1I'm having some problems with a ubuntu 8.1014:36
henry9k1I can't find the latest public repos for it14:36
bdiOh my god....everything is just working...its amazing....damn it feels good to get away from mac and their totally  screwed distro14:36
EvilResistance!8.10 | henry9k114:36
ubottuhenry9k1: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) was the ninth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 30th, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.14:36
henry9k1!eol14:36
arlo_anyone can help me with subdomain in apache? in teamewiewer?14:36
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:36
arlo_i have little problem14:36
MonkeyDusthenry9k1  8.10 is no longer supported14:36
henry9k1alright14:36
EvilResistancehenry9k1:  basically, 8.10 is no longer supported since its lifespan ended.14:36
EvilResistanceas MonkeyDust said14:36
henry9k1well, I'm reading ubuntu 9 install instructions and it tells me to update it fully before installing 914:37
henry9k1and I find no repos to update it from14:37
henry9k1should I just slap the 9 on it?14:37
MonkeyDusthenry9k1  i gues ubuntu is no longer supported, either14:38
MonkeyDusthenry9k1  i gues ubuntu 9 is no longer supported, either14:38
Picihenry9k1: Neither 9.04 or 9.10 are supported.14:38
henry9k1well damn14:38
bastidrazorhenry9k1: go for the gold with 10.0414:38
Picihenry9k1: Non LTS releases are supported for 18 months. 8.10 is over 3 years old.14:38
BluesKajhenry9k1, you have to try to stay a bit more current with your distro14:39
henry9k1I'm working on a friend's computer14:39
qqqmint ,supported until April 201314:39
henry9k1personally I'm an arch man14:39
edbianlovin' arch14:40
qqqit is good14:40
henry9k1<314:40
qqqmint 914:40
henry9k1soo14:40
henry9k1I've got another dilemma then14:40
henry9k1no keyboards work during boot up14:40
nvzanyone know how I can turn of the composite extension in X on Ubuntu 11.04?14:40
henry9k1but I have the admin password though14:40
MonkeyDusthenry9k1  get rid of that friend :p14:40
nvzeither that or how I can get a newer intel graphics driver in 11.0414:41
henry9k1any way I can get a 10.10 on this thing?14:41
qqq try mint 914:41
henry9k1without needing a boot14:41
Piciqqq: Mint is not supported here, please stop suggesting it.14:41
exodus_mshow can I find what version of php is installed with lamp-server^ on 10.0414:41
MonkeyDustexodus_ms  apt-cache policy14:41
kapcom01hello, i need a little help with duplicity (deja dup) https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/487720/comments/5514:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 487720 in duplicity (Ubuntu Maverick) "Restore fails with "Invalid data - SHA1 hash mismatch"" [Undecided,Fix committed]14:42
exodus_msthank you MonkeyDust14:42
exodus_msMonkeyDust, maybe I'm missing something but that just repos?14:42
bdion mac i have this really cool cloud system where i can take a screendump and automatically its uploaded to the cloud system in a web-accessable location, and the link to the image is put into my keyboard. Can i do this on ubuntu also somehow?14:42
skillynick raws_raws14:43
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MonkeyDustexodus_ms  yes14:43
exodus_msMonkeyDust, I need php PHP 5.3.2 installed. is there a way I can check if that version is included in the lamp-server package?14:44
MonkeyDustexodus_ms  hm, no, can't say14:44
exodus_msMonkeyDust, ok, thanks for your help14:45
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jumoitany ideas on "read out loud" in adobe reader 9 running on ubuntu 10.0 lts?14:46
Hotkeysdr_willis  THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!..........its been months trying to find a solution. FINALLY. Thank you Thank you Thank you. I added a bookmark to .gvfs and i can save now. You rock14:46
diverdudeanyone?14:46
diverdudeHotkeys, what was the problem?14:47
dr_willisHotkeys:  always found it annoying they dont make a link from .gvfs to like "Network"14:47
Hotkeys"" I am using ubuntu 11.10 desktop. I cannot get my programs to save to our network share.  I can  write to the share drive with nautilus by cut/pasting from anywhere on my local machine. This is a clean install of 11.10 and libreoffice generates input/output error when trying to save to the share. The share is hosted on Centos. If I run libreoffice as sudo, it fixes the problem, and saves to the share. The problem is I don't want to run my programs 14:47
dr_willisHotkeys:  non gnome apps just dont often like the whole 'smb://whatever/whever' type  paths :)14:47
HotkeysI see, yes that makes sense now14:48
diverdudedr_willis, do you know if there is a ubuntu-upload screendumps functionality?14:48
dr_willis!screenshot14:48
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.14:48
dr_willisdiverdude:  there may be some indicator-applets to help automate it. (check askubuntu.com)14:48
diverdudedr_willis, i know how to make a screenshot...but i want it to be automatically uploaded to a webserver and get the link in the clipboard14:49
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dr_willisdiverdude:  check indicator-applets list at askubuntu i guess.. :) ive seen a lot of new ones there in the past few weeks14:51
Sharpshooterany body know any application that connect mobile phone camera as webcam14:52
hacked_kernelhow to know the audio input device path on my system?14:52
Sharpshooterany body know any application that connect mobile phone camera as webcam?14:54
dr_willisSharpshooter:  it would depend on your phone i imagine.14:55
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Tiborhello?14:56
dr_willisSharpshooter:  there may be an app for your phone that does it.14:56
dr_willisJello Tibor .14:56
diverdudedr_willis, dont seem to be any apps for that :(14:56
Sharpshooterdr_willis, Ya one app is ther named smartcam but it is outofdate  not for 11.1014:58
willwhiteHas anyone else run into problems getting PPAs to show up in Ubuntu Software Center? Similar issue to: http://askubuntu.com/questions/54268/why-arent-my-ppas-showing-up-in-the-ubuntu-software-center14:58
Sharpshooterdr_willis, any way to install that app in 11.1014:58
dr_willisSharpshooter:  compile from source14:59
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dr_willisSharpshooter:  look for a ppa14:59
dr_willisI imagine it very much depends on the camera also.14:59
arcskydoes a new kernel getting installed with apt-get upgrade ?14:59
emresyes14:59
emres...14:59
dr_willisarcsky:  upgrades can install new kernels - yes.14:59
arcsky"can" ?15:00
emresYES15:00
arcskylast time i did it didnt15:00
dr_willisarcsky:  you can always try a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' if it dosent15:00
emresit wil ionstal all upgrads avalible new kernel is upgrade  omfg15:00
emres >> google15:00
arcskyemres: << google15:00
dr_willissome times things get held back.15:00
emresnot kernels15:00
dr_willisive definatly seen kernels get held back.15:00
Sharpshooterdr_willis, yeah I'm going to try that15:01
emresdr_willis:  okey my bad.15:01
dr_willisupdate, upgrade, dist-upgrade if you want to be super sure i guess..15:01
luis_hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/89861515:01
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]15:01
emresdont do dist upgrade15:01
emres...15:01
Piciemres: why not?15:01
hacked_kernelhow to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx15:01
dr_willisemres:  i do them all the time to pull in held back items.15:02
emresdr_willis:  hmm strange ind eb times dist upgrades actually upgrade distro to new versions15:02
Piciemres: A dist-upgrade will pull in packages that have new dependencies, like your kernel metapackage depending on a new kernel update.15:02
dr_willisemres:  thats a 'release upgrade'15:02
dr_willisand you use the update manager to do that.15:03
Piciemres: That will only happen if you have modified your sources.list to point to a new release. That is not the automatic nor intended behavior of dist-upgrade.15:03
Norwackwich torrent should i download when im going to install ubuntu with Oracle's VirtualBox? (32bit)15:03
emresi toldu in debian times.15:03
emres god damned15:03
dr_willisNorwack:  normal desktop iso will work15:03
emresmaybe now its diferent15:03
dr_willis' hmm strange ind eb times'  <----------- was that what that said?15:04
Norwackdr_willis: can you please give me a link?15:04
emresdeb15:04
emrestypo15:04
dr_willisNorwack:  ubuntu.com site has links15:04
dr_willis!download15:04
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Oneiric, and help keeping the servers' load low!15:04
phong_hi guys, is there a way to connect to sftp server in console terminal?15:04
phong_instead of using sftp client?15:05
dr_willisphong_:  sshfs  is handy to mount a remote ssh server to a local direcory15:05
edbianphong_: the sftp command15:05
phong_edbian, how to use sftp command?15:05
phong_edbian, one example?15:05
emresbtw is there a way to tell a girl how to install win 7  fropm usb on netbook with kubuntu installed by me  so it will not fu uyp grub? cuz shes dumb15:05
Norwack8.04 still work?15:05
pangolin!language | emres15:05
phong_sftp server_ip ??15:05
ubottuemres: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.15:05
Norwackor bugs? <- what i meatn15:05
edbianphong_: well there is a man page in man ftp.  Let me translate it to an example for you15:05
Norwackment15:05
K350Are there any alternatives to Compiz if I want to have a rotating cube, negative and zoom?15:06
phong_oh come on15:06
dr_willis!8.0415:06
ubottuUbuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 12 2011, Server support continues until 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.15:06
dr_willisNorwack:  its past EOL on desktop.15:06
edbianphong_: oh come on what?15:06
Norwackwell, i enjoyed the 8.04 layout better than the new one15:06
edbianphong_: it's sftp user@hostname:/path/to/stuff   (hostname could be an IP of course) and15:07
phong_edbian, can't you just show and tell ?15:07
edbianphong_: I said I would and I just did15:07
dr_willisNorwack:  gnome2 is basically dead. time to dive into unity, or gnome-shell15:07
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edbiangod15:07
phong_ok thanks15:07
phong_edbian, got it..it's working15:08
edbianur welcome15:08
phong_the part i'm missing is the user ;)15:08
edbianphong_: ahh, sure15:08
querierhey guys: "initctl unknown job" what does it mean ? I placed jobs on /etc/init just before and im calling sudo /sbin/initctl start my-tiny-job from a bash script, called from php.15:08
edbianphong_: In man sftp you can see the 2nd or 3rd synopsis line15:09
phong_edbian, is better to have sftp then just ftp right?15:09
Norwackdr_willis: this then http://morsomt.net/e/6uyfkk.png ?15:09
edbianphong_: I think so.  But it's best to use ssh and scp15:09
phong_edbian, so what is the problem with just ftp then?15:09
tibor_Hey why is there a _ behind my nickname?15:10
phong_if it is bettter, why is it still exist ftp15:10
edbianphong_: It's sends password and username in plaintext across the network15:10
edbianphong_: ftp still exists because it was massively popular and it takes a long time for people to switch15:10
edbianphong_: sftp isn't terrible though is my understanding.15:10
phong_oh15:10
querierdr_willis: do you know what it means? : "initctl unknown job"?15:10
phong_got it. thanks man u're superb15:10
edbianphong_: also it's ok to use on a LAN where people don't need passwords to access the files15:11
edbiansure15:11
tibor_Hey why is there a "_" behind my nickname?15:11
edbiantibor_: likely tibor was taken so your client choose tibor_15:11
phong_ls15:11
dr_willisquerier:  ive seen a few others ask that in here. I belive its some mistake in the init/sysv system. Check askubuntu.com for that exact error message and it may  tell you.15:11
edbiantibor_ is a character on the simpsons in season 4.  He's the guy homer blames whenever he gits in trouble15:11
edbiancause he doesn't speak english15:11
phong_edbian, ubuntu, xubuntu, what ever, they'll all the same thing riight?15:11
edbianphong_: They have a different graphical interface15:12
dr_willisphong_:  read on why ftp  must die ---> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie15:12
phong_oh15:12
edbianphong_: Other than that they're pretty much the same15:12
tibor_edbian: But my name isnt taken15:12
Norwackonly difference i believe15:12
edbianbut that's a huge difference15:12
edbiantibor_: then do /nick tibor15:12
edbianand you can get your regular one back15:12
phong_edbian, do you prefer ubuntu or red hat?15:12
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puffI'm getting hassled to use MS-Word to edit a doc.  How good is openoffice's support for MS-word formats?15:12
edbianmaybe it was taken at the time your client got your name15:12
tiboredbian: thanks15:12
edbianphong_: I use several distros.  I don't know what I prefer.  arch I guess?15:12
edbiantibor: sure15:12
edbianpuff: excellent15:13
edbianpuff: especially for word docs15:13
puffedbian: Cool... can it handle word's revision tracking feature?15:13
phong_edbian, why ubuntu runs faster then mac os x or windows ?15:13
phong_so fast man15:13
edbianpuff: mmm, IDK15:13
tiboredbian: and how the hell do you know the fact about simpsons15:13
phong_i love it15:13
edbiannever heard of that feaure15:13
puffHm, what about gnome office?'15:13
spowHi. I've been having troubles with the default X manager, so I've installed gnome. I tried using it in classic but there was no desktop, so now I tried gnome without options and i'm stuck in the 'activities' tab, I can't get out of it ! what should I use ?15:14
speckmade(I'm trying to install into encrypted LVM, resulting in a series of failures so far.)15:14
edbianphong_: because it has less software running at any given time and an army of people spend their time maintaining it and making it as fast as possible instead of as profitable as possible15:14
speckmadeCan I install into encrypted LVM using the live CD installation method?15:14
edbiantibor: haha, I like the simpsons and I just saw that episode the other day15:14
puffedbian: I can actually see why people like it, it basically lets you rewind/replay changes to the document, all the change data is stored *in* the document (which is one of the reasons word files can get so bloated...)15:14
edbianphong_: the software thing obviously is variable15:14
edbianpuff: I would just use regular files and git15:14
edbianpuff: Never used that feature but I'm willing to bet git is better15:15
puffedbian: Me too :-).15:15
phong_edbian, you type freaking fast man, u scared the heck of me15:15
phong_very rapid respond15:15
edbianphong_: ha, I am good at typing15:15
edbianphong_: :)15:15
phong_edbian, tell me if u're having extra fingures15:15
phong_fingers*15:15
phong_lol15:16
edbianphong_: I am not having extra fingers.15:16
phong_edbian, which linux has best GUI?15:16
phong_i want to download it and install on my laptop15:16
edbianphong_: all of them can use any GUI that you install (except unity on everything but Ubuntu).  Although you could probably compile the source and run it on any distro.15:17
edbianphong_: best is a matter of opinion15:17
phong_ok15:17
edbianunity that is, you could probably download the source and compile unity to run on anything you wanted.  After all, we're talking about open source software here15:17
Exxonphong_, gui is only for the new users entirely the basic is only the cli may be you will understand ..later15:18
edbianI use the cli  _way_ more15:18
edbianExxon: I agre15:18
edbiane15:18
behelithi! is it possible to, somehow, redirect stderr to a file when starting a program with start-stop-daemon? (2>> /file.. does not seem to work)15:19
MonkeyDustbehelit  try 2>/dev/null15:19
MonkeyDustbehelit  or 2> /some/file15:19
phong_ls15:20
phong_oops15:20
behelitMonkeyDust: i need to append the errors :/15:20
spow_Please, how the f*** do I get out of the activities tab on gnome ?15:20
nightcrowim trying to join a multicast group with iperf - but when i sniff with tcpdump, i see its using IGMP V3 - cisco doesnt support this - how can I join the groups with V2?15:20
genewitchspow_: the tab that opens when you press the meta key?15:20
nrdbbehelit, I think you would need to start and stop the daemon manually... and hope it does print things to stderr.15:21
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geirhabehelit: start-stop-daemon does not appear to have this feature, though the output should end up in /var/log/daemon.log15:21
orestis_gHello, everybody,  could I ask about a bit of a problem I'm having with gnome 3 ?15:22
orestis_gI installed it using apt-get gnome-shell15:22
conntrackWill ubuntu pppoe work with a 2wire router?15:23
spow__genewitch: well, I logged out and noz it seems to be fixed15:23
behelitgeirha: hmm, interesting. i see some entries there, but not from my program.15:23
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DatSamuelis there an easier way to compile c++ in ubuntu? preferably something with a GUI?15:23
spow__what X manager are you using ? the default one ?15:23
rcmaehlI need help with a bash problem15:24
M4d3Lhi. how I do a search into all file?15:24
spow__because it's really buggy here15:24
MonkeyDustM4d3L  using grep15:24
M4d3LI need to find a string in all file in the dir and subdir15:24
rcmaehlpastebin.com/91W89JBW why is it that even if the number is less than 59 it changes the hour ahead15:24
Exxonspow_,  http://ubuntuguide.net/view-and-kill-current-processes-on-ubuntu15:24
geirhabehelit: Hm. Looking close though, the start-stop-daemon manual does not mention anything about output, so possibly it just redirects all output to /dev/null and expects the daemon to do the logging.15:24
nightcrowany ideas guys? btw, im using ubuntu15:24
PiciM4d3L: grep -r string *15:24
MonkeyDustM4d3L  combine find with grep15:24
spow__Exxon: I couldn't open a terminal15:24
puffDatSamuel: eclipse?  IDEA intellij?  Netbeans?15:25
Picinightcrow: ##networking might be a better place to ask, as your question is rather in-depth :)15:25
geirhabehelit: Anyway, you can create a wrapper script that runs your program with the redirection you want, and run that wrapper script with start-stop-daemon instead.15:25
behelitgeirha: maybe i can wrap the program in a shell-script or run it through nohup15:25
nightcrowthank you Pici15:25
Exxonspow__,  atl + f2 terminal15:25
puffDatSamuel: Might be better to ask in ##c++15:25
spow__I've always had problems with dual screens, but I can usually fix it15:25
behelitgeirha: will try, thanks for the help15:26
dr_willisspow__:  unity is known to have some issues with multi-display setups.. gnome-shell may also hae some issues.15:26
spow__now compiz seems to mess everything15:26
orestis_gI installed gnome3 (have been running gnome classic), however once I log in to gnome3 I can open the menu by going to the top left corner, however mouse clicks either to the Applications menu or to the application bar on the left side of the screen does nothing (as if I didn;t click)15:27
ExxonPici, come in later with the java ; assume that15:27
psyxxxxhi guys. i would like to install a rootkit on my own machine, to learn and play a little bit with chkrootkit and rkhunter. does anyone know a good one?15:27
orestis_gUsing 2 monitors for the time being, haven't tried one15:27
dr_willisorestis_g:  what release of ubuntu are you using?15:27
orestis_g11.1015:27
DatSamuelpuff: im try that15:27
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dr_willisorestis_g:  you mean you installed 'gnome-shell' ? since gnome3 was allready installed...15:27
orestis_gOh, that's right15:28
orestis_gI meant the shell15:28
spow__dr_willis: tried gnome-shell classic but there was no desktop, now i'm using plain gnome and I've had this strange freezes15:28
dr_willisorestis_g:  :) it gets confuseing.. heh.15:28
conntrackAnyone?15:28
spow__should I use a more supported version ? like back to 10.xx15:28
dr_willisspow__:  i never use the classic/failsafe stuff. so no idea. you could always try resetting stuff back to defaults15:28
MonkeyDustconntrack  anyone what?15:28
dr_willisunity and gnome-shell both work fine here for me in 11.1015:28
spow__unity didn't allow me a 2nd screen and gnome classic has no desktop :S15:29
conntrackWill ubuntu pppoe work with a 2wire router? Or is it huawei?15:29
orestis_gI used unity for only a while, I don't think it had any problems. The thing is that the specific problem I'm having with gnome-shell is a bit confusing...I have no idea where to begin troubleshooting15:29
dr_willisspow__:  by 'plain gnome' you mean gnome-shell?15:29
conntrackI guess I'm confused15:30
dr_willisspow__:  this is a upgraded system? or a clean install?15:30
nightcrowPici: they couldnt help me15:30
spow__dr_willis: when I logged I used 'gnome', and its a fresh install, though wubi'd15:30
psyxxxxhi guys. i would like to install a rootkit on my own machine, to learn and play a little bit with chkrootkit and rkhunter. does anyone know a good one?15:30
Picipsyxxxx: Such things are not on-topic for this channel.15:31
Picinightcrow: Sorry to hear that,  try asking again here and maybe you'll get a response.15:31
diverdudei need to install: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin but those are no longer in the repo. what are they called now?15:31
dr_willis!java15:31
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.15:32
psyxxxxPici: Do you know a good channel?15:32
shaullxi can't enable file sharing on my VNC, can someone help me set it up?15:32
Picipsyxxxx: ##security perhaps15:33
diverdudedr_willis, i need it to install netbeans: this: http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html15:33
shaullxsamba is installed15:33
compdocshaullx, your vnc?15:33
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shaullxyeah, well on my vps15:33
nokia!list15:33
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:33
Exxongiving out candy instead for joining15:33
shaullxrunning fluxbox as gui if it helps15:34
HQRajaI need a program pinned in my unity dock/launcher (the bar on the left) to execute with a commandline switch each time I click on its launcher icon. Is there a way to do this? Are the pinned shortcuts actually kept in some folder?15:34
whitekidneyMy laptops monitor won't turn on after sleep.. any log files I can check for this ?15:35
nightcrowalso, thank Pici15:35
compdocjust need to adjust smb.conf and set permissions15:35
dr_willisdiverdude:  pick the java it needs I guess.. I dont use netbeans.  you got 3 choices.15:35
nightcrowim trying to join a multicast group with iperf - but when i sniff with tcpdump, i see its using IGMP V3 - cisco doesnt support this - how can I join the groups with V2?15:36
HQRajaAnyone? I really need help with this15:36
nightcrowOS=Ubuntu15:36
dr_willisshaullx:  it might be easier to setup ssh/sftp/15:36
webnetdiverdude, are you experienced in java or starting off?15:36
diverdudeweb1109, i did java before15:36
dr_willisHQRaja:  you could make a custome  .desktop file for your variant.15:37
webnetdiverdude, ok have you ever heard of bluej15:37
webnet??15:37
diverdudewebnet, ill be using netbeans for php :)15:37
webnetoh ok. i didnt realize you could code php in netbeans.15:37
webneti just use a standard text editor for my php coding15:38
diverdudewebnet, oh sure you can. they have a good ide for that15:38
webnetinteresting. i will be checking that out15:38
webnetthanks diverdude15:38
diverdudewebnet, no worries...netbeans is way better. integrate it with xdebug15:38
_calumWould Blender allow me to convert a .3dsmax file to an md3 file? I want to import a model to a game but its in the wrong format :(15:40
HQRajadr_willis: How do I do that? And can't I simply somehow edit the current entry for the same app, and add the additional command line argument to it?15:40
jclbrt_Calum i believe so actually15:40
htmlinprogressnetbeans? u got to be joking ? what is that something the compter eats?15:40
_calumahh thats good to know15:41
_calumthanks jclbrt15:41
webnetwow diverdude that is way nicer than the text editor i use. wow. thanks for the tip :)15:41
dr_willisHQRaja:  never tried. would be rather trivial to make a new .desktop file with a custome icon entry15:41
shaullxno one knows how to enable file sharing on a vnc? =/15:41
shaullxit's driving me mad, been trying all day15:41
dr_willisshaullx:  you are refering to a feature OF vnc? or installing shareing on a machine you are accessing via vnc?15:41
HQRajadr_willis: I see...and would it work with the Unity dock in 11.10?15:41
jclbrtfile sharing on a VNC??15:41
dr_willisHQRaja:  making a .desktop file should work for most any of the common desktops15:42
shaullxi'm connecting to my vps using vnc, but the file sharing is not enabled for some reason, i can't transfer any files.15:42
htmlinprogressshaullx,  if you wait a few hours when other wake up,, then might know,,, i think i heard of it15:42
HQRajadr_willis: I see. Where should I create the .desktop file, and what is its syntax? And once created, how do I get it on the launcher?15:42
dr_willisi never noticed vnc itself having a file shareing feature.15:42
compdocshaullx, someone is hosting the vps for you? in the could?15:42
compdoccloud15:43
dr_willisHQRaja:  whever you want.. find the one for the app you are wanting to tweak and copy it and edit its contents15:43
shaullxwhat do you mean? it's my vps i'm renting it.15:43
compdocso yes15:43
shaullxand i know vnc doesn't allow it itself, that's why i installed samba15:43
htmlinprogresscloud ? what about it?  compdoc15:43
shaullxdo i need to start samba somehow?15:43
compdocyou do need to set it to run at boot, if it didnt do that for you15:44
HQRajadr_willis: Any idea where can I find the one for the currently pinned entry that I have in the dock? The app is called Quassel15:44
shaullxhow do i do that?15:44
htmlinprogresscompdoc,  if you know how to build one i would15:44
jclbrtshaullx it should start right after u install it15:44
jclbrtbut u need to set up your shares15:44
htmlinprogresscompdoc,  if you know how to build one i would so like to learn,,15:44
shaullxi'd like the vnc to act as my own desktop, if i ctrl+c something on my local, that it would past to the VNC as well15:45
compdochtmlinprogress, I was asking shaullx about his rented server. Ive never used the cloud15:45
shaullxit worked before, i reinstalled ubuntu and now i'm lost15:45
jclbrtshaullx i dont think that'll work with vnc15:45
shaullxit did work15:45
jclbrt:-\15:45
jclbrtu mean copying and pasting?15:45
shaullxcopying test from the local desktop, crl+v to the vnc would copy15:45
shaullxyeah15:45
jclbrtoh yea ok15:45
jclbrtsorry15:45
shaullxnow it doesn't15:46
jclbrti thought u meant like to pass commands from the host to the remote machine (like control +alt +delete15:46
compdocshaullx, samba, and windows file sharing needs several ports open, and not really something thats useful over the internet15:46
shaullxi just need to enable basic copy past15:46
jclbrtVPN tunnel :-P15:46
shaullxit worked before15:46
Picishaullx: copying and pasting text does not require samba or any other file hosting service.15:46
shaullxso why wouldn't it copy15:47
jclbrtshaullx, is the remote machine Windows?15:47
shaullxthe local is15:47
shaullxthe remote is ubuntu15:47
jclbrtah15:47
compdocshaullx, oh, you need to enable the clipboard?15:47
jclbrtok... check to make sure the clipboard is running15:47
shaullxclipboard works for stuff i copy past in the VPS15:47
jclbrtyea what compdoc said15:47
compdocwhich vnc server did you install?15:47
shaullxbut not outside of it15:47
shaullxi got 2, tightvnc and x11vnc15:47
shaullxneither has copy past15:48
htmlinprogresscompdoc,  ohhh.... well i heard you one can do this ,,, i ve asked for months  to no success , not one  even can tell me where to start ,,, so sorry if i budded in15:48
FranticI have a friend running 11.10, she installed gnome from ubuntu software center and is using the "gnome classic" session. Pidgin doesn't produce any IM notifications, not even flashing in the task bar, is this a known issue?15:48
compdocshaullx, well, with vnc4server, it comes with a program you run named vncconfig. this enables the keyboard. Not sure how tightvnc and x11vnc do it15:48
compdoc*this enables the clipboard15:49
ExxonFrantic, run pidgin from the terminal error you will know if there is15:49
shaullxmy VNC Viewer app has 'send clipboard' option enabled15:50
shaullxi'll try installing vnc4server15:50
shaullxsee how it goes, thanks15:50
compdochtmlinprogress, there used to be a free cloud server from amazon or google (forget which) that let you run a server for free15:50
FranticExxon: I don't have access to the computer unfortunately :(15:50
compdocshaullx, I could never find it, but you would think that tightvnc and x11vnc have that function. maybe someone here knows15:51
blizzowFor the love of Tebow and all that is holy.  Will the new updated kernel in ubuntu boot a Lenovo T420S yet?15:53
lartzaI can't seem to share a folder to ubuntu guest in VIrtualbox :/15:53
htmlinprogresscompdoc,  well thats nice and thanks , but googlee...   mmm they know more of me then i like to share...  i would really want to bouldd my own15:54
jutnuxlartza: Have you enabled PCE?15:54
lartzait isnt automounted by virtualbox and mount shows Protocol error15:54
lartzajutnux: What?15:54
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compdochtmlinprogress, its nothing more than a server you can access from anywhere - build one15:54
jutnuxlartza: Have you installed guest additions?15:55
lartzajutnux: I think... it was a little weird, shouldn't tehy be on repos? :/15:55
lartza*they15:55
jutnuxNot that I know of15:55
lartzaWell I installed them from Virtualbox, but dont now if it succeeded then..15:55
jclbrtvmware kicks vbox's butt anyday15:56
jclbrt:-P15:56
jclbrtjk15:56
jutnuxNo way.15:56
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lartzaActually I do have a folder in /media...15:57
lartzabut it is restricted from my user15:57
HQRajaOK I found the .desktop file for the app, made a copy and am editing it. I am confused where to add the commandline argument there that I want to pass while executing the program15:57
jutnuxsudo chown15:57
Exxonjclbrt, you simply should know vmware slow the system ..but v-b don't find out why..15:58
HQRajashould I add it to the program's name in the Exec= entry?15:58
lartzajutnux: Yea just...15:58
lartzajutnux: Trying to find where it mounts it15:58
htmlinprogresscompdoc,  but how?15:58
lartzajutnux: not fstab or rc.local15:58
HQRajadr_willis: There?15:58
compdochtmlinprogress, cloud can be many things - shared docs, filesharing, or even a desktop. Depends on what you want to use ti for15:59
HQRajaCan anyone please help me with .desktop files?15:59
lartzajutnux: chown and chmod 777 but I can't access the fodler with nautilus16:00
dr_willisim in and out all day HQRaja16:00
HQRajadr_willis:  OK I am editing the .desktop file...what part do I add the arguments to, that I want to pass to the program? To the 'Exec=program' entry, or to the 'TryExec=program' entry?16:00
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dr_willisExec is ran first i belive.16:00
dr_willisExec=foo arguments16:01
jutnuxDoes the folder exist?16:01
dr_willisperhaps.. try it and see..16:01
HQRajadr_willis: And do I need to put the entry in quotes, now that it has spaces in between?16:01
htmlinprogresscompdoc,  the first 2 options is nice, like dropbox, but i will be using it for mu own network16:01
dr_willisHQRaja:  the other desktop files i see dont use quotes16:01
dydi have gnome and i want to install an utility like klipper, without the need to install 189 mb, is there anything similar for gnome?16:01
|Anthony|gd... doing dd if=/dev/urandom of=dev/sda on a 1TB drive is estimated to take ~ 50 hours16:01
jclbrtExxon---- huh?16:01
|Anthony|anyone else think that is slow?16:02
HQRajadr_willis: Oh OK...thanks. Lemme try that then. Also, do you know what 'TryExec=foo' is for?16:02
jclbrti use vmware server with no problems16:02
dr_willisdyn check the askubuntu.com site for indicator applets. I belive theres a few clipbord manager ones16:02
jclbrti am currently running 15 servers off of it16:02
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rumpe1|Anthony|, maybe try bs=5M16:02
dr_willisHQRaja:  no idea. not every .desktop file has that entry16:02
HQRajadr_willis: Alright, thanks again =)16:03
wangzhoumjkj16:03
|Anthony|rumpe1, how would changing the block size effect speed16:03
wangzhou扫描16:03
wangzhou扫描呢16:03
dr_willisHQRaja:  http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.0.html16:03
dr_willisblock size for dd can have a big boost in speed.. up to a point.16:04
HQRajadr_willis: Excellent! =)16:04
dr_willisI alwyas use bs=2048 out of habbit.16:04
HQRajaThanks16:04
rumpe1|Anthony|, don't know exactly, but it usually works. Even gparted performs testruns with different blocksizes to estimate the best blocksize.16:04
|Anthony|sudo kill USR1 pid is showing 5.5MB/s16:04
compdocI like Qemu-KVM16:04
dr_willisive herad that some of the newer versons of dd have a larger bs default then the old versions.16:05
rumpe1|Anthony|, and the default one (512b?) is usually very slow16:05
|Anthony|it's already been running for ~11 hours and 215GB done16:05
|Anthony|kinda don't want to restart it :/ idk16:06
rainbowwarriorhi, how do i install Opera for Ubuntu 11.10 as it does not show in the software center please ?16:06
DarkStar1how can I verify what tables are installed on iptables16:06
dr_willislet it run then. :)16:06
lartzaNow I can access the sared folder but not modify files and copying gives me protocol error...16:06
lartza*shared16:06
rumpe1|Anthony|, i would restart it :) ... 11h for 215GB is /really/ slow16:06
dr_willisrainbowwarrior:  tried logging out/back in after you  installed it? someone in here the other day had a similer issue.16:06
|Anthony|is there a way to test different bs's before i start a full wipe?16:06
dr_willisrainbowwarrior:  or make a launcher for it via alacarte in the menus.    one may be there allready.16:07
|Anthony|or just do a small section and see16:07
rumpe1|Anthony|, i would bet there are scripts somewhere on the net16:07
|Anthony|probably true16:07
SilverFoxI've managed to set something in nvidia-settings that causes just a black screen w/mouse cursor.  How do I reset/revert settings?16:07
dr_willisSilverFox:  you saved it to your xorg.conf ? or just as a user?16:07
|Anthony|rumpe1, thought about using darak's boot-n-nuke16:08
SilverFoxdr_willis: saved it to xorg.conf16:08
|Anthony|but i know that is slow too16:08
dr_willisSilverFox:  rename/move xorg.conf and it should use the defaults.16:08
dr_willisSilverFox:  or if you knew what you changed. edit the xorg.conf16:08
rumpe1|Anthony|, there is one: http://serverfault.com/questions/147935/how-to-determine-the-best-byte-size-for-the-dd-command16:08
dr_willisSilverFox:  or look in /etc/X11/ and see if theres a backup xorg.conf from an earlier date16:08
|Anthony|oh thanks rumpe116:09
lartzabut why the hell??16:09
lartzaNow I can't unmount it anymore and....16:10
Exxonrainbowwarrior, http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=338216:10
j3d3Since upgrading to 11.10 I now have a launcher/icon on the taskbar with serves only to open a web browser to google. I can not figure out how to remove this. There is no option i can see in any normal place. any suggestions?16:11
travisHAZEI am mounted partition, hear me spin! bzzzzzzzztt bzzt bzzzzt16:11
SilverFoxdr_willis: then just restart lightdm?16:11
pteague_workany idea what would cause mysql to take a long time to start up?16:11
travisHAZEIt being bloated16:11
lartzaIt's not working at all...16:12
travisHAZEWhen I ran a webserver, if my MySQL database had more than a thousand entries, it would start malfunctioning16:12
lartzamount -t vboxsf -o rw,uid=1000,gid=100016:12
lartzaAnd I get protocol error on copying and don't have write permissions!16:12
danoj3d3: have you tried right clicking on the icon and unchecking "Keep In Launcher" ?16:13
j3d3it is not an option16:13
danoYou see that option elsewhere, right?16:13
|Anthony|ok, can i send a signal to a running dd to "pause" it?16:14
|Anthony|silly question i know16:15
j3d3dano:  yes i have access to the panel properties to add and remove things, it is not listed in this.16:15
dr_willisSilverFox:  yes should do it.. odd that lightdm/login screen works.. could be some specific compiz issue16:15
xmad|Anthony|: kill -STOP <process id>16:16
xmadkill -CONT <process id>16:16
|Anthony|that was the one i was looking for ty xmad16:16
|Anthony|:)16:16
DrShoggothI'm running an encrypted home.  If I use "screen" and leave something running but I detach and log out the home dir becomes unavailable to my screen session causing issues.   Is there a workaround to this?16:16
diatomaceousdoes anyone know which setting in gtk2.0/gtkrc or gtk3.0/gtk.css controls the background color of a nautilus window?16:17
DrShoggothIs there maybe a config file that lets me configure when my home gets unmounted?16:17
ntthej16:17
MonkeyDustDrShoggoth  byobu is a workaround, it's an extension for screen, if you close and reopen it, nothing has changed16:18
ntthey evryone16:18
travisHAZEBYOBU, bring your own black unicorns?16:18
travisHAZEYou racist16:18
dr_willisMonkeyDust:   i would think  it would have the same issue.. i dont use encrypted homes.. :)16:18
dr_willis!byobu16:18
MonkeyDusttravisHAZE  ?16:19
dr_willis!info byobu16:19
dr_willisusing byobu right now.16:19
ubottubyobu (source: byobu): powerful, text based window manager and shell multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 4.37-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 74 kB, installed size 700 kB16:19
travisHAZEMonkeyDust, I was having fun with it16:19
danoj3d3: I'm sorry I can't be of more help.  I've never run into this before and am out of my depth.16:19
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whitekidneyWhy do I have to input a domain when connecting to a windows share? I'm not running a domain on my local network...16:19
j3d3Dano: the properties/help option of the launcher gives a "document not found" error as well16:19
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j3d3Dano o ty anywat16:19
makarahi. Why isn't /etc/init.d/ added to $PATH by default?16:19
Sharpshooteris it possible to install the ubuntu 8.x apps in 11.10 ?16:20
sipiormakara: because the contents are not intended to be run directly.16:20
makarasipior: by directly you mean without sudo?16:20
warfarenwhy would you want that in path?16:20
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makarabecause I always running services in this directory. Like Apache216:21
warfarenno it means that you write the name of the binary without the full path. so for example if you want to run a shell you only need to type bash instead of /bin/bash16:21
ExxonSharpshooter, what app are you really trying to migrate in 11.1016:21
sipiormakara: no, i mean directly by anyone. try the "service" command.16:21
warfarenwell you can start them with service apache2 start16:21
makaraexcellent16:21
rainbowwarriorhi, anyone here know how to stop java chat applets crashing when loading on Ubuntu 11.10 please ?16:21
SharpshooterExxon, Smartcam16:21
warfarenif you have to launch apache2 directly with only "apache2" i guess you could put a link or a shellscript in /usr/bin or something though16:22
sokakhi everyone16:22
warfarenthat's in your path16:22
whitekidneyWhy do I have to input a domain when connecting to a windows share? I'm not running a domain on my local network...16:22
SharpshooterExxon, smartcam an app to use mobile phone as webcam ..16:23
whitekidneyAnd why doesn't samba spesifiy any spesific error instead of saying "Failed to mount windows share" god its so stupid..16:23
ExxonSharpshooter, question can you compile ..16:23
trav|examoh Lord Samba troubles again?16:24
trav|examIll save ya some time: If your trying to transfer from NTFS, your going to be beating your head against the wall all day16:24
SharpshooterExxon, no16:24
ExxonSharpshooter, as you don't have other alternative give it a try..      http://www.itech-planet.net/content/smart-cam-installation-guide-4-ubuntu-1004-lts-nokia-9616:25
danoj3d3: I'm curious, when you search for *.desktop files in your home directory, do you come up with a file corresponding to the launcher?  I'm also under the assumption that this launcher still works, right?16:25
sokaki have a bizarre question about hdds. I noticed that i can "fix" disks with few bad sectors just using shred or badblocks, and after years of use, is all still fine. As they like to make "jogging". Since i have a 2 months old hdd and i noticed one bad sector... Can be good to shred or badblock any new hdd to make the potentially defective bad sectors show up and be relocated immediately?16:26
Picitrav|exam, whitekidney: I'me mounting multuple shares across multiple servers here using samba/cifs and things work just fine.16:26
whitekidneyPici: I'm trying to access a Windows share.16:26
Piciwhitekidney: If its asking you for a domain you can either enter nothing or the name of the computer you're trying to access.16:27
whitekidneyYeah, I tried doing that, no luck.16:27
whitekidneyAnd you don't need a password to access my windows share. I have disabled that.16:27
SharpshooterExxon,  so to compile my self from source  what things I want to do/learn ?16:27
trav|examwhitekidney, is it an NTFS partition?16:27
whitekidneyYes16:27
trav|examGood luck, I tried this all day yesterday16:27
whitekidneyThat's not the problem, I have done this before.16:28
trav|examEnded up just taking the harddrive out and just forcing it that way16:28
Picitrav|exam: the filesystem doesn't have any bearing on whether samba will work.16:28
ExxonSharpshooter, there is nothing to learn simply follow the instruction in the REAME file..after un-tar16:28
LambHello?16:28
whitekidneyThe problem is I can't connect to my windows share with my ubuntu laptop. All other computers in this house can connect without a password just fine.16:28
trav|examThat's funny, cause Samba was working fine with Fat32 and EXT4, but when I tried to touch the NTFS partition it was like "NO."16:28
whitekidneyWhen I spesify a user and enter the correct password it still fails.16:28
sokaknas, ftw16:29
Skt_ThomasHey. I was wondering if someone could help me with a little problem. It seems that on Ubuntu 11.10(Oneiric Ocelot with GNOME desktop) I can't set my laptop to hibernate. There simply is no button anywhere that lets me do it. I know how to shut down/restart with holding the ALT key and all that jazz but I can't get it to hibernate16:29
warfarenSkt_Thomas: do you have swap?16:29
SilverFoxdr_willis: lightdm wasn't working...  I just wanted to avoid a reboot.  Got that working, thanks.16:29
warfarencuz without swap it probably wont work16:29
Skt_ThomasI think I do because it hibernates just fine on Unity16:30
SilverFoxwhen one 'applies' in nvidia-settings, does that just write out user level settings?  One of the options says "requires restart", but I'm confused about whether an 'apply' will stick after restart, or not.16:30
LambHello, I need help with installing ubuntu on my eeepc sheshell series, it came with an Express Gate Cloud, put unbuntu on the flash drive as instructed it, but it wont appear in the boot menu16:30
warfarenSkt_Thomas: try the command: free16:30
warfarenyou'll see if you have swap16:31
Skt_Thomas@warfaren: Swap:      2027516          0    202751616:31
danoj3d3: check out the launcher api too.  You might be able to determine whether there's an incorrect entry in your config.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static%20Quicklist%20entries16:31
Piciwhitekidney: Have you tried with username of Guest and no password?16:31
whitekidneyPici: I don't have any guest user on my windows desktop.16:31
Exxonwarfaren, i too have swap is use                 free - m16:31
warfarenoki16:32
Piciwhitekidney: Then how is this share setup?16:32
whitekidneyPici: You can setup password-free sharing in Windows.16:32
whitekidneyIn windows 7 you have an option to let 'everyone' read your shared folder without logging in.16:32
Piciwhitekidney: I'm pretty sure that uses the guest account behind the scenes.16:32
teutrux?16:33
trav|examNot ubuntu related: TV shows are quoted (ie "Cheers") and episodes are italicized right?16:33
LambCould anyone please help me, Im having trouble installing Ubuntu on a computer that has an Express Gate Cloud as a default OS16:33
rainbowwarriorHello, how do i fix java that it does not crash when loading java chat applets please on Ubuntu 11.10 ? (im using java version "1.6.0_26" )16:34
Picitrav|exam: Try #ubuntu-offtopic16:35
aikInsaanhow do I get tightvncserver on my ubuntu?16:36
aikInsaanapt-get install tightvncserver says package not found16:36
sinosoidalhi. I want to make a simple debian package for a small utility. in control file I have defined as depending on qt, however when I test the package it fails to install because it doesnt met the dependencies16:37
wkPici: Uh oh.16:37
wkPici: I found out how this works now.. uh.. If you're trying to access a windows share with no password you still need a user.16:37
wkPici: Accessing the share with a user/pw won't work. User/no pw works.16:38
aikInsaanapt-get install tightvncserver says package not found16:38
aikInsaanhow do I get tightvncserver on my ubuntu?16:38
Piciwk: Thats a bit silly. But glad you got it to work.16:38
wkaikInsaan: what version?16:38
aikInsaanmust mention I have only got bash shell access16:38
aikInsaanany version would do16:38
wkaikInsaan: I mean what version are you on?16:38
aikInsaanoh...10.0416:38
wkaikInsaan: Did you do apt-get update first?16:39
aikInsaanyeah16:39
Amon-Rahi guys, i am trying to install XAMPP gui , but the tutorials i find on web doesn't work for me, any help ?16:39
Amon-Rai follow this tutorial http://freshtutorial.com/add-gui-xampp-control-panel-ubuntu/16:39
Amon-Rabut it doesn't work for me..any idea ?16:39
webnetaikInsaan,  ok are you sure you have its source in  sources.list?16:40
MonkeyDustaikInsaan  it's in the universe repo, is that repo active?16:40
mneptokaikInsaan: please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a"16:40
webnetAmon-Ra, Hi again. what is going wrong?16:40
Amon-Rawebnet: hi mate, i installed Xampp , and i am trying to enable the GUI16:40
aikInsaanmneptok: here:16:40
aikInsaanNo LSB modules are available.16:40
aikInsaanDistributor ID: Ubuntu16:40
aikInsaanDescription:    Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS16:40
aikInsaanRelease:        10.0416:40
aikInsaanCodename:       lucid16:40
FloodBot1aikInsaan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:40
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Amon-Rawebnet: like the link above..but it doesn't work for me16:41
aikInsaanapologies, didn't mean to flood on that16:41
webnetMonkeyDust, duh repo was the word i was looking for. haha. brain fart moment :P16:41
mneptokaikInsaan: please *pastebin* output like that16:41
|Anthony|any way to get dd to be multithreaded?16:41
almoxarife!info tightvncserver16:41
ubottutightvncserver (source: tightvnc): virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.9-6.2 (oneiric), package size 762 kB, installed size 1676 kB16:41
mneptokaikInsaan: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please16:41
Exxon!vnc16:41
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX16:41
HQRajaI created a custom .desktop file for an app, with a commandline argument provided in the 'Exec=' entry. Now the shortcut is working fine but when I dragged it to the Unity launcher bar to pin it there, it doesn't show the app's icon there (although the shortcut works, just as an empty space in the launcher/dock)16:41
HQRajaAny clue on how can I fix this behavior?16:41
MonkeyDustwebnet  be sure to not forget your GF's birthday :p16:41
sokak|Anthony|, why that?16:42
webnetMonkeyDust, haha Nov. 27th :D i got that one :P16:42
aikInsaanmneptok:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main     deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main are the two on there16:42
aikInsaanits the universe one isn't it?16:42
mneptokaikInsaan: also, you are running 10.04.1, which has long been deprecated. 10.04 users should be on 10.04.3 by now16:43
luis_hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/89861516:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]16:43
|Anthony|sokak, would run faster for a urandom if it were multi-threaded16:43
webnetAmon-Ra, ok so where is it going wrong? the giu wont start or what. not finding a shortcut for the gui?16:43
Skydevhi16:43
webnetSkydev, hi16:43
MonkeyDustluis_  it's a known bug, developpers are working on it16:43
mneptokaikInsaan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- do that before installing new stuff16:43
Amon-Rawebnet: i don't find the shortcut or the  GUI..shouldn't it be now at the installed programs?16:44
sokak|Anthony|, tried to increase blocksize?16:44
Skydevany talk in spanish16:44
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MonkeyDustes| Skydev16:44
mneptok!es | Skydev16:44
MonkeyDust!es| Skydev16:44
ubottuSkydev: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.16:44
Skydevsi16:44
luis_MonkeyDust, how do I know if they are working on it, since I don't see any comments?16:44
mneptokSkydev: Ingles solamente aqui, pf16:44
webnetAmon-Ra, not necessilary, you may need to add a launcher.16:44
|Anthony|sokak, yes, just ran a test script someone led me to16:44
Skydevmmm16:45
|Anthony|thanks again xmad16:45
Skydevok16:45
Skydevsee us later16:45
sokak|Anthony|, nothing can go faster than dd in a low level copy :316:45
Amon-Rawebnet: how do i add a launcher? and actually how should i know if it needs a launcher ? :)16:45
MonkeyDustluis_  it says 'confirmed'16:45
|Anthony|sokak, i'm wiping a 1TB drive with /dev/urandom16:45
luis_MonkeyDust, any ideas on how to help? like some troubleshooting methods?16:46
xmadsure16:46
luis_i really need this functionality back!16:46
sokak|Anthony|, i just finished to shred,badblock and full smart test a 4 tb unit ;) took 18 hours16:46
luis_imagine a notebook without suspension or hibernating!16:46
|Anthony|damn sokak16:46
bluegoonMy netbook melted16:46
MonkeyDustluis_  i'm not better than developpers, i guess you have to be patient, i think hibernation has a low priority16:46
sipiorluis_: it's interesting that it worked with one of the rc kernels. does it now fail with that kernel in place?16:46
sokak|Anthony|, hurry is a bad counselor when dealing serious checks16:47
bluegoonAfter 5 years of use, XChat still does not remember any settings on Ubuntu.16:47
luis_yes sipior, the first time I tried it worked, but at the second attempt faiiled16:47
OerHeksluis_, best thing to do now, is to confirm the bug.16:47
sipiorluis_: what changed between those two things?16:47
HQRajaI am going insane :( I learned how to make a .desktop file, created one, added the arguments and it's working fine by itself...shows the right icon, launches the app with the right arguments, BUT when I drag it to the Unity launcher to pin it there, it does get pinned but WITHOUT the icon. Clicking on it works, but it looks awful as just an empty space in the launcher :(16:47
|Anthony|sokak, best throughput i'm getting with dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=128k is 9.2MB/s16:47
sokakbluegoon, i installed xchat today and seems working fine. Tried to purge and reinstall it?16:47
HQRajaCan anyone please help me fix this issue?16:47
sokak|Anthony|, working over usb? ;)16:48
bluegoonsodak, try to save settings like join room on connect, and join/hide message hiding, then restart the app, it will forget everything.16:48
|Anthony|sokak, nope16:48
sokak|Anthony|, thats uber odd :316:48
|Anthony|sata II16:48
webnetAmon-Ra, hmm its somewhat stranfge that tutorial... a .desktop is an entry for a launcher, but thats sort of an odd way to do it IMO. lol. its easier for a (No offence intended here) average to semi advanced user to add it with the add launcher dialog...16:48
Generic_DumbassWhat do you all use to manage dual monitors on Ubuntu? I use Ultramon on Windows because it gives hotkeys for stuff like "move window to other monitor" and "stretch window across both monitors"16:49
luis_OerHeks, sipior, that's the problem. I cannot isolate the issue just by switching kernels16:49
luis_the last post on the bug16:49
luis_tells that something else is wrong16:49
HQRajaლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Unity Launcher, Y U NO WORK IN A SANE MANNER???!!!11116:49
Amon-Rawebnet: so if i search for add launcher help on google i may manage it.. ? :)16:49
webnetGeneric_Dumbass, um what version of ubuntu?16:49
sokakGeneric_Dumbass, tried the monitor settings, or in case of invidia, the nvidia manager?16:49
sipiorluis_: right, but what changed between the first time (when it worked), and the second time (when it failed with the same kernel)?16:49
Generic_Dumbasswebnet: i have two: ones' the latest, one's the version before that16:50
Lambcould someone point me in the right direction please?16:50
LambI need help installing ubuntu on this netbook16:50
Generic_Dumbasssokak: Does the nvidia manager have stuff like that? Excellent, I'll try it.16:50
Lambbut its defaulted to an express gate cloud16:50
Lamband I get seem to get the usb to boot16:50
sokak|Anthony|, im sitting on a rate more than triple than yours. Checked all the cable, and the disk is working properly at the fastest rate in the bios?16:50
Lambnor access the bios16:50
webnetGeneric_Dumbass, ok because there have been quite a few having problems with dual monitors with unity... i never have a problem dualing with gnome, but several people have come on here and cant get it working... :/16:50
luis_sipior, cannot tell. on the same session i made one attempt and worked. then the second attempt and later attemps failed. i tried login in on text mode and running in command line and works16:50
Generic_Dumbasswebnet: My duals work completely fine on Ubuntu, I just want those special commands.16:50
Generic_DumbassThey're plug and play.16:51
sokakGeneric_Dumbass, poke around X monitor settings in nvidia settings manager :)16:51
tightworkLamb: turn on, press del/f2/f10/backspace16:51
Exxonsipior, running a custom kernal ??16:51
Generic_Dumbasssokak: exxxxxxxxcellent16:51
aikInsaanmneptok thanks!16:51
sipiorExxon: i think maybe you meant that for someone else.16:51
luis_sipior,  that's the big trouble. if I could tell the difference I could isolate the problem. the problem is that I cannot recreate the issue16:51
Generic_Dumbasswebnet: I turned off Unity anyway16:52
|Anthony|sokak, i'll have to recheck in bios, but testing various count= sizes does effect it... the larger the count, the slower it goes16:52
sokakGeneric_Dumbass, more precisely, X Server Display Configuration16:52
Generic_Dumbasssokak: noted16:52
jutnuxGeneric_Dumbass: What DE do you use now?16:52
Lambtightwork: did nothing16:52
sokakLamb, on some is esc as well16:52
webnetGeneric_Dumbass, Oh ok. thats great! i thought you were talking about managing as in getting 2 to work. haha. yeah i hate unity. IMO worthless bloatware16:52
sipiorluis_: does it consistently work from the console?16:52
Generic_Dumbassjutnux: whatever comes default on 11.04 ?16:53
jutnuxUnity.16:53
Generic_Dumbassjutnux: But there was an option to use classic, and I chose that16:53
sokak|Anthony|, such a slow rate over sata smells like disk misconfigured, or bad cable, or worst, disk going apeshit, checked with smartctl?16:53
Generic_DumbassI thought you'd meant gnome vs. whatever16:53
luis_sipior, the 4 or 3 times i've tried it worked. but not from the console. starting a session without graphics like gnome or unity.16:54
sokakcant manage to upgrade from Maverick - i dont poke my junk until works16:54
luis_sipior, the consisten error is  [  198.632108] Freezing of tasks failed after 20.01 seconds (1 tasks refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0):16:54
luis_<luis_> [  198.632226] mount.nfs       D ff001100     0   932    931 0x0080000416:54
sipiorluis_: so, something to try: start unity or whatever as normal, then get to a console via "ctrl-alt-F1". try hibernating from there and see what happens.16:54
Lambsokak: nothing works16:55
luis_sipior, already tried that. the same thing happens16:55
jutnuxGeneric_Dumbass: If you ever upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10/12.04, I suggest you try Xubuntu. It replicated gnome-2 well.16:55
Exxonsipior, sry not for you.. may be luis_16:55
LambI tried, esc f2 f10 del and backspace, together and seperatly16:55
sipiorluis_: interesting. what happens if you unmount your nfs share first?16:55
sokakLamb, can you remind me exactly your rig model/mobo?16:56
Lambeeepc seashell series16:56
luis_sipior, i'm kinda stuck in that. when i list the mounts i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/767958/16:56
luis_sipior,  so it doesn't seem to be any mounted nfs shares16:56
Lambmodel:1015PX16:57
luis_or am I doing the wrong thing?16:57
luis_sipior,  i've also altered the common.conf to unmount all nfs and other stuff16:57
sipiorluis_: how about turning off fuse?16:57
luis_sipior,  any directions for doing that?16:58
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Exxonluis_, if you are running custom kernel ; you are on our own16:58
Generic_Dumbassjutnux: And by that you mean, avoids Unity?16:58
luis_Exxon, I'm not16:58
Generic_DumbassI was avoiding upgrading because I'd heard 'classic' was no longer an option in 11.10, but i may be wrong16:59
luis_Exxon, i've just run the rc version for testing16:59
shaullxhow come it won't let me install unrar?16:59
luis_now i'm with the official16:59
HQRaja[Repeat] Please help. I am going insane :( I learned how to make a .desktop file, created one, added the arguments and it's working fine by itself...shows the right icon, launches the app with the right arguments, BUT when I drag it to the Unity launcher to pin it there, it does get pinned but WITHOUT the icon. Clicking on it works, but it looks awful as just an empty space in the launcher :(16:59
HQRajaGoogled but couldn't find anything on it16:59
shaullxpackage unrar has no installation candidate16:59
shaullxo.o17:00
shaullxapt-get is updated17:00
oCean!info unrar17:00
ubottuunrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:4.0.3-1 (oneiric), package size 104 kB, installed size 260 kB17:01
sipiorluis_: you can just remove all mounted fuse filesystems with fusermount -u. does "ps aux | grep -i fuse" turn up anything of interest?17:01
oCeanshaullx: ^you have multiverse enabled?17:01
shaullxprobably not, how to enable it?17:01
shaullxi got 'unrar-free' installed, but when i extract something it just fails on every file17:01
shaullxit only extracts empty folders17:02
oCean!multiverse | shaullx17:02
ubottushaullx: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories17:02
luis_sipior, invalid option -- '.'17:02
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sipiorluis_: we often terminate sentences with a "." in english :-)17:03
sokakLamb, im still here, just a sec17:03
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luis_sipior, sorry, i though it was a string of commands!17:03
diverdudeon mac i can do echo "hello" | pbcopy    and have hello in the clipboard. Can i do the same in ubuntu?17:03
Exxonshaullx, sudo apt-get install unrar-free17:04
Lambstill nothing17:04
GaRRusipior, that's right. Sadly.17:04
Lambno matter what I do it just immediately boots into the express gate cloud17:04
Exxonshaullx, sudo apt-get install unrar17:04
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oCeandiverdude: there's package 'xsel'  (so you can do  echo blah | xsel ) but i'm not sure which clipboard it uses17:04
sipiorGaRRu: i had never thought to attach an emotion to grammar.17:05
luis_sipior, luis      1699  0.0  0.0  31468  2092 ?        Ssl  12:34   0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/luis/.gvfs17:05
luis_luis      6416  0.0  0.0   6896   816 pts/0    S+   15:04   0:00 grep --color=auto -i fuse17:05
SharpshooterExxon,  I compiled and I got stuck with libbluetooth.so.2 how can I get the new version for ubuntu17:05
_calumHey. I have an adapter to connect my nintendo 64 controller to my laptop. Can I use this with Mupen6417:05
GaRRusipior, I didn't attach no emotion, I just said... sadly.17:06
diverdudeoCean, i have installed it but i cannot paste in firefox17:06
sokakLamb, its Esc, its written on the manual17:06
sipiorluis_: this might be the problem, and the reason that hibernate stalls when gnome is running. gnome won't like it if you kill this process, but try it anyway.17:06
sokakLamb, try bashing it like crazy17:06
LambI agree with you sokak, but no matter what I do it ignores it17:06
sokakooo17:07
sokakwait17:07
oCeandiverdude: paste with ctrl-v or mouse? Just guessing here..17:07
LambIm gonna see if updating express gate  will help17:07
sokakLamb, i feel retard, it says 'Press F2 to show post screen, then F2 again to enter bios17:07
diverdudeoCean, ctrl-v dont work17:07
ExxonSharpshooter, sooner or later you will have to learn to compile ; there is no get away with that17:08
LambI'll give it a try17:08
sokakSharpshooter, its easier than what you think17:08
travisHAZEIs there a good website to learn how to compile?17:08
travisHAZECause I know I need to learn that17:08
travisHAZEI know make17:08
travisHAZEand ./configure17:08
luis_sipior, so what's the best way to kill gnome?17:08
sokakyoure past than halfway17:08
travisHAZEBut thats all I know17:08
luis_sipior,  I just issue the command on the hibernate script?17:08
sipiorluis_:17:08
travisHAZEI tried compiling FreeCiv17:09
travisHAZEI ended up kicking my desk from frustration17:09
sipiorluis_: "kill 1699"17:09
Sharpshootersokak, , I appreciate It17:09
_calumis it possible to use a Nintendo64 controller with Mupen64? Can I just plug the adapter in?17:09
sokaktravisHAZE, after ./configure, if doesnt spew errors, you make, and if make dont spew errors, just make install17:09
travisHAZEWhat if it DOES spew errors?17:09
sipiorluis_: the idea is just to kill the gvfs-fuse-daemon process, and see if that frees you up for hibernation.17:09
arosales#ubuntu-cloud17:09
sokak_calum, open xev, if it produces events, the answer is yes17:09
luis_ok, i'll give a try sipior17:10
_calumsokak:Sorry, what is xev?17:10
sokaktravisHAZE, usually errors are self explanatory: read the error, and try to find what you miss and apt-get it.17:10
oCeandiverdude: yeah, xsel is probably using the x clipboard, I'm not sure how you could change that17:10
sokak_calum, open a terminal and type xev17:11
_calumahh right17:11
sokak;)17:11
webnetdiverdude, Loving the netbeans php ide! thanks for the tip bro.17:11
sokak_calum, the ps3 pad worked flawlessly over usb, with a little tweak over bt17:11
sokakLamb, try again and more, with my old little 901 bastard, its hard as well to enter bios17:12
Lambsokak my manual is in chinese17:12
Lamb=(17:12
ileavasilehi all17:12
_calumok I typed xev theres some stuff happening I don't understand but something when I plugged it in17:12
Lambso I need to spam F2?17:12
sipiorLamb: good time to learn.17:12
sokak_calum, try to press buttons. They show in events?17:13
mickepaprikaanyone who has any idea what to do about the sound delay in flash?17:13
luis_sipior, tried killing gvfs-fuse-daemon, but it's not running!17:13
sokakLamb, try here http://www.retrevo.com/d/ds/progress?doc=a99efc725dfb7820e9f3fea3e42ab4e0&rk=0.1529116375109185217:13
_calumnothing happens when I press the buttons17:13
ileavasilewhat nvidia driver is stable and good to install? nvidia accelereted graphics version 173 or version 93?17:13
sipiorluis_: and what does ps say?17:13
_calumoh wait something changed17:14
sokakileavasile, it depends on your card17:14
ExxonSharpshooter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo17:14
SharpshooterExxon,  Thank man !! :)17:14
sokak_calum, if it spew stuff when you press buttons, you may be able to see it correctly in the emulator config17:14
luis_sipior, root      7122  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:10   0:00 [flush-8:1-fuseb]17:15
luis_root      7123  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:10   0:00 [flush-8:7-fuseb]17:15
luis_luis      7595  0.0  0.0   6896   820 pts/0    S+   15:14   0:00 grep --color=auto -i fuse17:15
reeskcan anyone recomend a really lean gui version of ubuntu all it needs to do is samba webserver and subsonic including its dependancies17:15
sipior!pastebin > luis_17:15
ubottuluis_, please see my private message17:15
sokakreesk, then why gui :P17:15
sipiorluis_: something for next time...17:15
Exxon!pastebin | luis_17:15
ubottuluis_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:15
_calumsokak:I'll see if the emulator detected it17:15
luis_sorry, sipior Exxon,17:16
reeskcause i am  lazy and like to click things than terminal17:16
sipiorluis_: can you hibernate now?17:16
sokak_calum im crossing fingers :) With ps3 pad was one two three :)17:16
sipiorluis_: it's fine, you didn't know.17:16
luis_sipior, no, negative. same symptoms17:16
ileavasilei have nvidia geforce 6150 nforce 43017:16
_calum:)17:16
ileavasilewhat could be good?17:16
sipiorluis_: and what about from the console?17:16
reeski know i suck but its how im most comfortable windoze has spoiled me17:16
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sokakreesk, rip gnome and use fluxbox17:17
Lamb2hmm17:17
luis_sipior, let me check. any debugging options that i should issue for better follow up? or just sudo hibernate?17:17
ileavasilei ask because other time with a difrent version of ubuntu i instaled the driver and after restart it was stuck at lo resolution of 64017:17
ileavasile:(17:17
reeskhow easy is that to do17:17
Lamb2still no luck17:17
Lamb2what does POST mean?17:17
_calumsokak:I'll just load up Ocarina of time and see if it does anything17:17
reeskif it helps the specs are 640mhz 2gb ram and 4gb or 8gb hdd17:17
sipiorluis_: that's a good question. i don't see anything useful in the man page for pm-hibernate.17:18
sokakLamb2, POST messages are just the text spewn on monitor instead of the graphical eeepc thingie17:18
dragomirHi everyone. I have an external drive that I needed formatted in hsf+, then I need to transfer some files into it. I also need to make sure that Mac can read. I have ubuntu 10.04 and I just installed Gparted. How can I do this?17:18
sokaksee, the hdd detected, ram and stuff17:19
Lamb2I get zero post messages17:19
Lamb2it just boot directly to the Express Gate17:19
sokakLamb2, still just showing the eeepc grahpic and then boot to os?17:19
luis_sipior, same symptoms from the console. one other things that shows up is "Tuxonice binary signature file not found"17:19
Lamb2hes exactly what I see:17:20
reeskis there a buntu equivlent to puppy or dsl17:20
Lamb2off --> black screen --> express gate cloud appears17:20
sokakileavasile, go there and check the recommended17:20
sokakhttp://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us17:20
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ileavasilethe recomanded driver to try and install?17:21
Lamb2doing the black screen I can see characters appear if I spam something but nothing happens when I do17:21
sokakileavasile, the number goes with some gpu models at once, cant remember the schema17:21
ileavasilei downloaded the exact driver from nvidia page17:21
sokakileavasile, as for me, i installed the xswat ppa and then installed the recommended driver from jockey GTK17:21
ileavasilebut its .run and i dont know how to install it17:22
sokakLamb2, i have no clue... If tapping F2, or just keeping it pressed is not gonna work, i have no more clues. Thats all it was written in the manual i linked you17:22
sipiorluis_: bizarre. well, i would say that the information about the mount.nfs error and fuse might be a useful thing to add to your bug report. it seems likely that hibernate is stalling on some pending volume unmount. the person dealing with the bug reports might have a better idea about how to test that further (or perhaps it's a duplicate of a bug seen elsewhere)17:22
Lamb2Im beginning to think that the express gate is its bios of sorts17:23
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Exxonreesk, so you want to configure dsl regardless what distro are you using that's so17:23
Lamb2the express gate has an option to install a windows os17:23
sipiorluis_: unfortunately, i need to be on my way. so, i'll wish you the best of luck sorting this annoying problem out.17:24
reeski have no idea what i want other than the services i need i mainly want something small based on ubuntu so i can use the repositories for easy install goodness17:24
Lamb2but, I dont wanna do that17:24
sokakileavasile, open a terminal and do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates if you want the latest stable17:24
luis_thank you very much sipior for all the help!17:24
genewitchreesk: mint?17:24
sipiorluis_: no trouble.17:24
sokakthen apt-get update and then open jockey.17:24
reeskill give it a look17:24
reeskis mint debian based cause i like the look of it17:25
genewitchreesk: crunchbang17:25
sokakileavasile, that worked like a breeze for my 570 GTX17:25
genewitchreesk: they're based on ubuntu17:25
genewitchcrunchbang is decent.17:25
reesksweet17:25
Exxonreesk, L-ubuntu is small, light weight and easy like hell.. (windows)17:25
reeskcould i get away with a 640mhz cpu for the light applications ill be using17:26
genewitchreesk: i was wrong, both linux mint and crunchbang are debian forks now not ubuntu17:26
codazodaOneiric just did a kernel update from 3.0.0-13 to 3.0.0-14.  When I book 3.0.0-14 my MacBook Pro (7,1) locks up on the splash screen.  I can select previous versions and boot 3.0.0-13 just fine.  Any thoughts on where I might look for the problem?17:26
ileavasileubuntu x-swat or x update or both like you tiped?17:26
mneptokgenewitch: we prefer recommending official Ubuntu derivatives. mostly because if someone installs Mint or Cruchbang, they will NOT receive support on this channel. which can be an unpleasant surprise for a new user.17:27
reeskdebian is fine it just needs to be debian cause its the best supported os for subsonic17:27
sokakileavasile, exactly as i typed for apt-add-repository for stable releases, but there are also ppa's for bleeding edge drivers and downgraded drivers17:27
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mneptokreesk: if you install anything without Ubuntu in the name, this channel will not be a source of help for you.17:28
reeskok17:28
Exxonreesk, ram should be min 51217:28
reeski got 2gb ram17:28
_calumsokak:Ocarina of time won't allow me to use the controller, which plugin should I select?17:28
sokakreesk, you can almost go swapless17:28
sokak_calum, good question. I dont have a n64 pad to try. Its a matter of trial and error.17:29
Nurse_KunSo, I want to use the Play framework for Java, yet there's already this other program called 'play' with that namespace for audio stuff in Ubuntu17:29
Exxonreesk, so why do you wait try it out it has wubi.exe and lxde desktop17:29
reeskyeah thats fine mneptok im mainly here for advice on a ubuntu os the rest i can sort out myself through google just os selection is easier if you ask people17:29
phong_hi all17:29
ileavasilewrite it again please only what i need to enter in terminal so i can copy paste17:29
Nurse_KunHow can I uninstall the audio 'play' so I don't have a conflict with the framework Play17:29
phong_how yall doing?17:29
_calumok. I'll test them 1 by 117:29
phong_yall okay?17:29
reeskwhats wubi17:29
mneptokphong_: questions and answers in this channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat/17:30
sokakileavasile, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates17:30
Exxonreesk, never mind try it in virtual box instead17:30
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sokakExxon, why not a live usb?17:30
reeskok17:31
Exxonsokak, like usb is mostly not bootable that's why17:31
reeskill prolly just go straight to live hardware cause the machiens not doing anything else17:31
mneptokreesk: what is your planned usage of this machine?17:31
reeskafter doing lile 20 installs on that machine im pretty much used to it17:31
sokakExxon, thats a point youre showing here :)17:31
reeskbasic server so net shares webserver and subsonic if i wanna get fancy then ill prolly do torrents17:32
mneptokreesk: you don't need a GUI for any of that17:32
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sokakI should go and scavenge some old hardware to get again in touch with non bootable usbs17:32
Exxonsokak, many got fustrated trying to boot a usb with the ubuntu on it..so its a serious issue with it17:32
soreau_calum: FWIW, I built a circuit to interface 4 N64 controllers via parallel port and it works great with mupen64plus17:33
sokakExxon, maybe were too used to boot from anything, still, its a sure shoot with unetbootin, if the mobo is usb bootin capable17:33
soreau_calum: I even implemented force feedback (rumble) support in the gamecon driver ;)17:33
mneptokparallel port? non-USB aware BIOS? when am i?17:33
elb0wanyone else get a bug where the unity taskbar stays out17:33
sokakmneptok, this is the u-mummy channel17:33
_calumawesome. Don't seem to be having much luck playing Ocarina of time with the adapter though17:33
GaRRuDoes anyone have a Auto DC from Wicd? if yes, would you help me on configuring it not to do so?17:34
reeskmneptok i know but termial scares the crackers out of me i like gui installers and the like17:34
reeski almost have a mental breakdown just cd'ing to directories17:34
soreau_calum: For those usb interface devices, I hear that adaptoid works but not sure about some of the other no-name devices. See if you have /dev/input/js0 and test it with jstest17:34
sokakreesk, shell is like wiskey, dont be scared of the first shot, just go on and let's go dizzy17:35
reeskid rather click icons than have to do everything in terminal17:35
_calumthanks soreau17:35
Exxonsokak, that the lousy post in bootin.. only if i could delete that one...or re-directed to main website for    http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/17:35
reeskive done termial it was almost the onl option for freenas and it loves to either not do something fuck soething up or just plain not work17:35
webnetreesk there are support channels available foro you however, just not here17:36
Picireesk: Please mind your language in this channel.17:36
Nurse_Kunanyone know how to fix the namespace issue with play and play?17:36
sokakExxon, sorry for omitting the sauce, but im burning 4 tb of stuff and i shall finish before tomorrow T_T17:36
reeskeeps sorry17:36
Nurse_Kunthe audio play and the java framework play17:36
Lamb2omg sokak I got it17:36
sokakLamb2, thopse who persist shall win.17:36
Tech-1reesk:  plain ol debian should work fine...from experience17:37
webnetreesk i was referring to if you install crunchbang or something. lol. i wasnt ousting you haha.17:37
Lamb2I had to go into the Express Gate Cloud and disable its own autoboot17:37
reeskahh17:37
Lamb2and make it boot to windows (which didnt exist17:37
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reeskim gonna throw crunchbang on17:37
reeskbtw love 11.10 it looks pretty sexy17:37
sokakLamb2, get rid of it ;) just dd the hdd first if you want to save a copy of everything all at once17:37
webneti  was reading back cause i was in a pm for a while and i didnt realize that was so far back. lol reesk. sorry didnt mean to freak you out. haha.17:38
_calumsoreau: jstest detected it! I'm 1 step closer. However its showing 217:38
Exxonreesk, what you see is what you get ..:))17:38
soreau_calum: showing two of what?17:38
reeskso if it looks sexy then i get what ..... sex?17:38
_calum2 usb gamepads, HuiJia USB gamepad17:39
webnetreesk, if you do need help on crunchbang installs, there is a channel on freenode for it. check out #crunchbang17:39
soreau_calum: What is detecting two?17:39
_calumjstest17:39
sokak_calum, can you identify it with lsusb please?17:39
reesksweet tbh i should be fine lamp install is well documented as will the others only thing ill get stuck on is the samba so ill rememebr that channel17:39
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carstentest17:40
soreau_calum: I dont really understand. jstest operates on a single input device node afaik. For example you would use jstest /dev/input/js0 to test the first joystick17:40
GaRRuCan anyone /pm me with some Wicd Network manager help? Id be glad.17:40
_calumI see nothing about usb gamepad in lsusb output17:40
webnetreesk, haha sex. :P good come back hahahaha. i love it :P but the point he is making is that unity looks god, but thats where the advantages stop...17:41
soreau_calum: If it works with jstest, you should be able to select Blight input plugin in mupen64plus and select the joystick from the dropdown list in the config for it IIRC17:41
_calumright17:41
reeskrly how could it be worse than a previous install17:41
sokak_calum, sorry, i meant to identify the adapter brand.17:41
reeskunless canoacle did a vista on us17:41
AlexeyHi17:42
webnetunity is great for a netbook , tablet or a novice linux user on a desktop, but it lacks the basic necessities for a good desktop env. for example... right click context menus?17:42
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AlexeyI need advice again))17:42
sokakwebnet, i agree from the bottom of my heart17:42
AlexeyI have installed Xubuntu just now17:42
webnetsokak, aabout unity?17:42
Alexeyreboot the Sys17:42
reeskyeah i did notice that17:42
_calumYes! On jstest it registers the button input!17:42
reeski wanna see something new in the gui tbh17:42
sokakwebnet, im scared to touch it with a stick - sticking to Maverick right now17:43
reeskit seems to stay the same for the task bar17:43
Alexeybut grub was not launched17:43
reeskand definatly not compiz17:43
reeskthat makes me cringe17:43
reeskits like every feature in 7 i turn off17:43
sokakAlexey, did it hangs on black screen?17:43
webnetsokak, maverick for the win. i dont want to move past maverick... not yet at least... gnome 3 is stilll to new and a bit buggy so i want to wait fot it to mature a bit before ill switch17:43
mneptokreesk: the UNIX shell is one of the best computing tools ever developed. remote administration cannot done be done more simply. it is well worth learning to use the command line.17:44
Alexeyno just launched win717:44
sokakwebnet, im having hard crashes because of nvidia kernel module, once in a while. I do want to upgrade, but ill wait as well17:44
sokakAlexey, so you installed kubuntu after 7?17:45
Alexeyyes xbuntu after 717:45
reeskbut its scary mneptok they have so many switches and commands even in windows i only know like 4 commands ipconfig shutdown cd and attrib17:45
Tech-1heh, time to learn17:45
Lamb2its done17:45
Lamb2thanks for all the support sokak17:45
webnetreesk, sokak, i have to give conical props though. it was a gutsy and bold move for them to oust gnome and use unity... i dont like it, but i give them a bit of respect for taking such a big risk... I think i want to develop gubuntu. take the newest releases and strip the giu off and install gnome 217:46
sokakAlexey, im not grub wise, i always messed it, but i tried once succesfully the super grub disk http://www.supergrubdisk.org/17:46
reesklike cdx -r -i -gh -sj /mnt/blarba/ thingy thingy -e just to make it do something simple like unzip a folder17:46
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Tech-1reesk:  theres plenty of man pages out there to learn from.17:46
sokakLamb2, you're welcome17:46
phlak_userreesk, to unzip you just type unzip foo.zip17:46
sokakwebnet, i do agree, still i wont touch it because im *freakin* lazy17:47
brightsparkwebnet, have you seen the 'MATE' fork of gnome?17:47
diatomaceousdoes anyone know which setting in gtk2.0/gtkrc or gtk3.0/gtk.css controls the background color of a nautilus window?17:47
reesk17:47
AlexeySokak, cheers now checking17:47
Matt_Slack_DebiaI have a question about Ubuntu and Grub, I installed 11.10 twice, didn't work on 2nd boot, twice, hated dasher, installed 11.04, like the Gnome, afraid to 2nd boot because I cannot find anything to manually configure Grub in the Gnome System Tools.   Liloconfig was so much easier.17:47
sokakAlexey, yw17:47
_calumsokak:Its working :)17:47
soreau_calum: In m64+:?17:47
phlak_userMatt_Slack_Debia, so whats the question?17:47
sokak_calum, for the win ;) You shall never give up :D17:47
reeski jsut like my guis its a nooby thing17:48
_calumyea, I hit start and it brought up the menu :)17:48
mneptokreesk: i use "unzip $FILENAME" to unzip stuff. couldn't be easier.17:48
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webnetbright spark. no... what is it? gnome 2 developed further?17:48
sokakreesk, once you learn shell, you will do things million times faster17:48
webnet* brightspark : my last msg fwas for you17:48
* reesk screams and stomps his feet17:48
reeski dont wanna learn shell momma please dont make me waaaaahhhh17:49
soreau_calum: Cool. Now that its configured, you can play the ocarina by holding a note and moving the joystick ;)17:49
reesklol17:49
Matt_Slack_DebiaThank you phlak_user, what is the simplest way to configure Grub using a graphical interface, not running several shell tools, with their own interpreters, that I could not make work ?17:49
Tech-1reesk:  sudo halt17:49
reeskhmmm17:49
_calumyeh :)17:49
reeskpasword for root?17:49
sokakreesk, shell wasnt built in a day :) plug in commandlinefu.com and play17:49
EvilResistance!root | reesk17:49
ubottureesk: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:49
boldfilterUgh UNITY why you freeze17:49
_calumgood video performance too, so far17:49
mneptokreesk: not to mention you are building a server on hardware with limitations. why eat up RAM and CPU just for an unecessary GUI (and all the shared libs that come with it)? not to mention, each piece of software you install introduces more potential security issues.17:49
brightsparkwebnet, essentially.  I think they are trying to maintain rather than extend at this point.17:50
reeskguh17:50
reeskok17:50
bytesaber_workWhat do we use instead of refit now for multi boot?  refit doesn't seem to work well with Lion17:50
sokakmneptok, i agree with hardening17:50
webnetbrightspark, are they on sourceforge or do they have a website?17:50
_calumI'm so happy zelda works in Linux :)17:50
Matt_Slack_DebiaProblem on first and second boot of new system is, I have no screen during Grub.  I want to make it a text screen, so at least I can see what it is doing wrong.17:51
webnet_calum, zelda for the win :D17:51
sokak_calum, everything potentially can run in linux, it depends on how much time you tweak it :)17:51
conntrackI'm getting my nicks confused17:51
reeskok lets get this show on the road which shoudl i do to learn shell A) do a frugal instals of buntu B) run it in a emulator c) live cd  d isnt a option cause i cant be fucking with the partitions on this machien cause my resotre partition is in here and i dont wanna take any chances17:51
brightsparkwebnet, I don't know if they have a sourceforge... their github is here: https://github.com/Perberos/Mate-Desktop-Environment17:51
_calumyeah I guess. I'll experiment with other games too17:51
mneptokreesk: install the server version of Ubuntu, and i can practically guarantee that some user in this channel or #ubuntu-server will walk you through whatever you need to do.17:51
Matt_Slack_DebiaFirst boot if I wait, Ubuntu comes up.  Second time, never comes up, monitor shuts off with no input.17:52
phlak_userMatt_Slack_Debia, not sure what you want to configure in grub but most options sit in /etc/default/grub and that can be edited with a graphical text editor like gedit; once you save your changes, you need to run a command called update-grub217:52
OerHeksreesk please watch your language17:52
AlexeyI see sgd will work from external source and will help if you cannot boot the sys17:52
reeskwhat lnguage17:52
mneptokreesk: if it doesn't work out, just use "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to add a GUI to your existing installation17:52
reeskoh nuts17:52
webnetbrightspark,  github sf its the same concept. :) thanks for the link. i googled mate de and got some rather "strange" results. haha17:52
reeskwhy do i swear without thinking17:52
sokakAlexey, yes, and that can be a lifesaver many times17:52
brightsparkwebnet, I don't even want know... there's possibilities.17:53
phlak_userreesk, you seem to be confused about how livecd works; it doesnt work with your hdd partitions17:53
Alexeyall right checking again17:53
_calumnow I just have to put up with Navi. *sigh*17:53
reeski know it dosent17:53
webnetbrightspark, yeah... we will put it in the not safe for work category... haha17:53
soreau_calum: hold down f for fast forward17:53
_calumahh cool you mean I can shut her up?17:53
soreau_calum: No, just speed up emulation ;)17:54
reeskim just saying id like to runa  full destop buntu for learning termianl on also cause tbh i love buntu just dont wanna risk installing and messing up my windows install or even worse my restore partition cause then im nutterd17:54
sokaksweet, i've found the best way to catalog and search backups in a breeze.17:54
sokakreesk, time to buy a secondary hdd17:54
phlak_userreesk, the livecd is a full desktop by itself17:54
_calumahh ok. I'd pay someone to write a shut up Navi plugin/hack :)17:54
reesklaptop = no second hdd17:54
reeskis it frugal that lets you install to a folder on the hdd rather than the hdd istself17:55
webnetwould anyone be interested if i made a ubuntu fork for 11.X + using mate desktop env? would anyone use it?17:55
Matt_Slack_Debiawhat is the line in /etc/default/grub that I should edit to keep it from trying to give me a graphics screen and just give me a text console during the Grub phase of booting ?17:55
sokakreesk, 8 gb is enough for a small server, just slap a pendrive17:55
brightsparkreesk, I know someone who installed to a 32GB flash drive, no probs.17:55
soreau_calum: save/restore state are your friends17:55
Matt_Slack_DebiaWith text, at least I can see what it is doing.17:55
boldfilterIs it smart to give your vm all your processors?17:55
CyrusSmithhi all, done something really stupid: formatted windows partition installed ubuntu on it. but i forgot to backup my main. what program can i use to "un- delete" the mail files. ie backup.pst somewhere in application data17:55
reeskhmm17:55
CyrusSmithmain=mail17:55
reeskim gonna give it some serious thought17:55
Tech-1web1109:  didnt mint do that ??17:55
Tech-1webnet:17:55
reeskmeanwhile im gonna put ubuntu on the server17:55
_calumthanks for the help everyone17:56
sokakCyrusSmith, if you've overwritten a partition, is mostly gone17:56
CyrusSmithyea i know but was hoping i could somehow get some files back17:56
sokak_calum, yw, i did nuffin :)17:56
webnetTech-1, they arent a ubuntu fork anymore though... they forked debian now i believe. im not talking about a whole new distro, im just talking about a remix like kubuntu or xubuntu except with the mate or straightup gnome evironment.17:57
Tech-1sokak:  youve got character17:57
brightsparkCyrusSmith, short of computer forensics where they analyse differences in charge across the HDD, you are pretty much sunk.17:57
sokakCyrusSmith, prepare a spare hdd bigger than the overwritten one, boot from a live, and try testdisk. With my best wishes17:57
axisyswhat is the spanish keyboard layout to choose for laptop?17:57
phlak_userMatt_Slack_Debia, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash=verbose"17:58
CyrusSmithsokak thanx man. i checked it out but couldnt figure out how to work the prog....lol17:58
Matt_Slack_DebiaThank you Phlak_user17:58
sokakit saved my arse. $ terabytes of it.17:58
sokak4*17:58
axisysall spanish keyboard layout I saw in Keyboard Preferce has three keys between L and Enter .. my HP 6730b has two keys between L and enter17:59
CyrusSmithsokak, hectic. can you guide me to a how to17:59
sokakaxisys, try some and test, its a matter of trial and error17:59
sokakCyrusSmith, i cant grant results. My partition was just erased, not overwritten.18:00
CyrusSmithsokak, worth a try though18:00
reeskok questions 1 shall i go for ubuntu server 11.10 or 10.04 lts18:00
sokakThen use the guide i used first, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step18:01
Tech-1server18:01
CyrusSmithsokak, cool thanx man18:01
sokakCyrusSmith, yw, and good luck18:01
CyrusSmithsokak, cheers gonna try it now18:01
CyrusSmith:)18:01
sokakand watch out what you blast next time xD18:02
axisyssokak: every spanish layout preview I see has three keys between L and Enter.. I have two keys.. not sure what else to try..18:02
CyrusSmithsokak, that i definatl will18:02
CyrusSmithexit18:02
sokakaxisys, i had an odd old multimedia keyboard, crawled thru all kind of settings until i've found it18:02
CyrusSmithlol typed in wrong place18:02
mneptokaxisys: entiende Espanol?18:03
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axisysmneptok: i dont speak spanish18:04
SuBmUnDo`awaysorry18:04
axisysi want to type the tilde n18:04
mneptokaxisys: ah, OK. i was going to recommend you ask in #ubuntu-es as someone there probably knows.18:04
sokakaxisys, have you found a layout that covers mostly your keyboard?18:04
axisysbut tilde n is the key next to L .. but I have only two keys between L and enter18:04
axisyssokak: yes18:05
axisyssokak: i went through total number of keys..18:05
mneptokaxisys: i think USA International (with dead keys) is the layout you need as an Anglophone18:05
axisysi have some missing.. but those are just signs.. not characters per say.. so no issue18:06
sokakaxisys, one minute, im googling for one thing i saw18:06
BarkingFishaxisys: do you have a seperate key with a tilde on it?18:06
phlak_useraxisys: i have tilde just next to 1 on my laptop --> ~18:06
BarkingFishIf so, you could try to set up a compose key, axisys18:06
axisysBarkingFish: yes, but that is on the top left corner..18:06
axisysBarkingFish: right below esc18:07
BarkingFishCompose + n + tilde would still do the same18:07
axisysthis is a standard hp 6730b laptop18:07
axisysphlak_user: same here18:07
BarkingFishñ18:07
brightsparkaxisys, the Mexico>Latin American Keyboard has only 2 keys between L and <enter>18:07
axisysbrightspark: yep.. same here18:07
axisysBarkingFish: hmm.. which one is the compose key?18:07
BarkingFishyou set it yourself, axisys18:07
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axisysBarkingFish: oh ok18:08
BarkingFishI can't remember how in Ubuntu, i think it's in your xorg conf18:08
hacked_kernelhow to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx18:08
brightsparkaxisys, would not using that layout then work on your hardware?18:08
sokakaxysis, have a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey18:08
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axisyssokak: looking18:09
dragomirhi all, i sudo nautilus and deleted a large file that was sitting in root desktop. i right clicked the file and clicked trash. the file is gone now but its still sitting in the system somewhere because the space (20 minutes later) is still not free'd up. please help. thank you18:10
sokakdragomir, you emptied trash?18:10
brightsparkdragomir, did you empty the trash?18:10
dragomirsokak,  brightspark when i go to sudo nautilus it brings up a root file browser18:11
dragomirim unable to access trash18:11
dragomirbut on my normal desktop the trash is empty18:11
sokakdragomir, go in the trash folder with a sudo nautilus18:11
wildc4rdgood evening all!18:11
genii-aroundBut use gksudo and not sudo18:12
sokakdragomir, next time shift+del it (warning, its not reversible without sweating)18:12
brightsparkdragomir, change the location (ctrl-L) to "trash:///"18:12
axisysmneptok: yep.. that was it!18:12
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mneptokSuBmUnDo: if i tell you about /away messages again, it will be because you are appealing a ban i set on you.18:12
openuser.who18:13
dragomirbrightspark, its empty18:14
anjais there a way to upgrade a 32bit xubuntu to 64bit? or atleast the kernel so i can use all ofmy 8 gb?18:14
dragomirsokak, ill do that next time thanks18:14
ikoniaanja: no18:14
dragomiri still cant find the file though18:14
anjaikonia, okay18:14
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sokakdragomir, if you can see it in a root nautilus, you can shift+del it18:14
dragomirsokak, i cant see it anywhere though18:15
sokakdragomir, just rebbot. The magic should happen. Or try to show hidden files ;)18:16
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luis_hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/89861518:17
ubottuUbuntu bug 898615 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Presario C500] Hibernate command fails and returns to userspace" [Medium,Confirmed]18:17
Togkoloshey18:18
OerHeksluis_, what is your question ?18:18
Togkoloshow can i restore grub? ( i just installed windows and lost grub)18:18
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xangua!grub2 | Togkolos18:18
ubottuTogkolos: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)18:19
joshteamI am trying to install the Java  on Ubuntu - I have the files; just not sure what to run to start the install18:19
joshteamanyone?18:19
joshteamor is there an apt-get i can use?18:19
sokakwhich files you have?18:19
xanguajoshteam: there is a ppa for oracle java 618:20
joshteamjdk-7u1-linux-i586.tar.gz from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html18:20
brightsparkjoshteam; icedtea is in the repositories I believe18:20
improveupongreetings. this is interesting: oneric crashed with message: ata_id[625]:HD10_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb' (indeed i do not have an sdb)18:20
sokakand whats inside the tarball?18:20
dragomirdid ubuntu give up on me?18:21
sokakimproveupon, any oddities showing in bios? Which devices sees gparted?18:21
improveuponfollowed by could not write bytes: Broken pipe    (this repeated 3x)18:21
Togkolosxangua: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).18:21
joshteamsokak: a ton of files?18:21
kermitrunning X apps over 20ms of latency slows down the whole GUI, not just the app.. is there a better awy?18:21
improveuponsokak: nothing strange18:21
joshteamlol I am sorry for my lack of clarity here.. but a ton ./bin/* and ./lib/* and ./plugin/*18:21
improveuponfollowed by *Stopping save kernel messages (/n)*Starting bluetooth18:22
sokakjoshteam, see the wonders of googleiing http://askubuntu.com/questions/32124/how-do-i-install-java-7-from-the-official-tarballs18:22
brightsparkjoshteam, is it the runtime environment or development kit you are trying to install?18:22
joshteamsokak: thanks, will read up. sorry - I did try googling / just had the wrong search I guess18:23
sokakjoshteam, nvm, i was being politely sarcastic u.u18:23
joshteambrightspark: I am just trying to get Java JDK installed :-p18:23
improveuponfollowed by *PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions... (some other stuff)18:23
Tilawarymate1234: You suffered a DDoS attack after 1 min18:23
sokakimproveupon, if kernel sees things that dont belongs, something is going wrong18:24
brightsparkjoshteam, openjdk is in the repositories if you want to use apt-get.18:24
improveuponsokak, what is ata_id[625]:HD10_GET_IDENTITY?18:25
improveuponis that a function/method? what would be calling that?18:25
improveuponi'm more interested in finding this out than in preventing further crashes18:26
|Anthony|ugh18:26
|Anthony|i had a nick alert, but it got flooded out18:26
marcuyapache isn't processing php files under my public_html folder, I've commented out the line php_admin_value that has been suggested in many blogs already but php files aren't working, any idea?18:26
|Anthony|no idea what was said to me18:26
joshteamthanks brightspark18:26
sokakimproveupon, im not omniscient, so i tried to google it. But not appreciable results are coming out18:28
Nurse_Kunupdate: I just renamed my folder and executable for play framework to playf18:28
Nurse_Kunsince I couldn't find a way to remove the play/rec/sox stuff18:28
sokakimproveupon, all i can say is that is hdd related. Try to check disk health and disk wiring first18:28
improveuponsokak, thank you, no need to google it, i thought you or someone might know18:28
improveuponsokak, that is now interesting18:29
improveuponthis is an old hard drive... smart health is like 98% though & always has been18:29
joshteamwhat's  a good IRC client for Ubuntu?18:29
improveuponthe windows partition never crashes. the linux one does, but not with the same messages at all18:30
improveuponoften after it has been idling18:30
|Anthony|joshteam, xchat works18:30
xangua!irc | joshteam18:30
ubottujoshteam: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines18:30
improveuponand it starts doing it more and more often and i have to reinstall18:30
sokakimproveupon, booting with an earlier kernel leads to different situations?18:30
improveuponsokak, when i had earlier kernels still, it did not lead to something different, crashed equally often18:31
improveuponbut totally different errors...18:32
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axisysthanks to all.. now I can type ñ18:32
sokakimproveupon, try also a dmesg > foo.txt, then open such foo.txt (it will come out in your home folder) and try to spot any suspicious warning. Googling for them may lead to hints.18:32
improveuponthank you18:32
sokakimproveupon, watch first the ones nearby the crash times.18:32
improveuponit is not crashing recently, because i erased all linux & reinstalled18:33
improveuponwhen oneric came out18:33
sokaki see18:33
|Anthony|sokak, maybe my slow speed for a urandom dd is due to my E3400?18:33
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improveuponsokak, thanks again!18:35
sokak|Anthony|, honestly no clue about that, but im unsure that dd is so much cpu intensive18:35
Cybertinusgood evening18:35
sokakwelcome Cybertinus18:35
|Anthony|sokak, it's using 100% of a single core18:35
sokak|Anthony|, you got me >.< im running sixcore from a long while, i dont look anymore at my cpu usage18:36
|Anthony|lol18:36
|Anthony|which cpu?18:36
CybertinusI'm running 11.10 on my netbook, and a while back I'm sure I've got wireless on it. But now it lost my wlan card completly. ifconfig -a doesn't show it at all. How do I get my wlan back?18:36
sokakin cause of doubt, just top in a terminal18:36
sokakCybertinus, which chipset is your wireless card?18:37
MonkeyDust|Anthony|  do you have an intel video card?18:37
sokak|Anthony|, Phenom II x6 1100T black edition18:37
Tech-1nice18:38
sidneya KDE system uses much more resources than gnome?18:38
Cybertinussokak, don't know from the top of my head. lspci also can't tell me :S. Let me look up the specs on the Asus website, that should tell me18:38
sokakTech-1, i partially agree - i had leaks for a long time, and took a while before i noticed them18:38
|Anthony|MonkeyDust, no... nvidia, but what does that have to do with dd18:38
|Anthony|sokak, i thought about getting the 1090T18:38
MonkeyDust|Anthony|  not with dd, but with your cpu being eaten18:38
|Anthony|sokak, you satisfied with the 1100T18:39
OerHeks|Anthony|, it looks allright to me, dd use 100% .. or don't you want it to go that fast ?18:39
sokak|Anthony|, just open a terminal and top - you will see what is eating your cpu18:39
marcuyhow can I do to process php in my public_html with apache?18:39
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|Anthony|i know that dd is 100% on a single core18:39
sokakmarcuy, which version of php you installed, and it passed the test.php?18:40
|Anthony|wondering if the slow e3400 is a bottleneck for dd using urandom and not the hdd18:40
Tech-1might be18:40
sokak|Anthony|, what about using /dev/null?18:40
|Anthony|meh... for that matter i could /dev/zero18:41
|Anthony|just like the added security of urandom18:41
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sokak|Anthony|, yeah, that may work, also, yes, im satisfied with the 1100 T, i do virtualbox and heavy crunch encodes18:41
|Anthony|nice18:41
ubuntunoob.18:42
|Anthony|sokak, have you compared it to a 980X?18:42
sokak|Anthony|, you wont see it crawling until you start to swap, no matter what18:42
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Cybertinussokak, I can't find the specs online :(. do you know another way of finding it inside Ubuntu itself?18:43
Monohey18:43
josthi18:43
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Guest91597how can i add myself to the group netdev?18:43
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sokak|Anthony|, nope, and im just satisfied with it. Im using it with an Asus M4N98TD EVO, it was cheap18:43
|Anthony|would lspci -l help Cyber_Akuma18:43
Timewarperhow can i add myself to the group netdev?18:43
Guest58554im using ssh vhazrati to transfer files but it ask for a password ?18:43
|Anthony|er Cybertinus18:43
Guest58554what password?18:43
askreetTimewarper, From a terminal you can run "usermod -aG netdev <username>".18:44
sokak|Anthony|, i noticed i had memory leaks when docky started to use 12 Gb of ram :o18:44
askreetTimewarper, Sorry, that should begin with sudo.  "sudo usermod -aG netdev <username>".18:44
MonkeyDustGuest58554  please change your name to something readable, use /nick to do so18:44
khameishi18:44
lgp171188Hi, I have a Sony Cybershot camera that records videos in .HTS format. I opened the videos with vlc and was able to play it ok. I tried converting the videos to H264+AAC(mp4) using VLC media player's conversion tool. But in the converted file only the audio is available and video is missing. What could be the issue here? Have I missed installing some codecs?18:44
|Anthony|sokak, so i guess docky hasn't fixed that yet, huh?18:44
|Anthony|lol18:45
|Anthony|sokak, check to see that docky didn't use th -o switch18:45
sokak|Anthony|, i fixed it my way. A killall docky at .50, and docky started by a script u.u18:45
lgp171188Sorry the format is .MTS not .HTS as I mentioned.18:45
khameis#linuxac18:45
jostI've got a script here which needs to be run with root rights on boot and then keeps running the whole session. I used update-rc to achieve this, but there is one problem: The script does not terminate on shutdown, so the machine hangs on shutdown. How to solve that?18:45
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khameishi18:46
Timewarperaskreet, can i add user root to that group? cause i try and then type groups and it shows only root group18:46
jutnuxkhameis: \o18:46
hipodilskican you point me to some good tutorial on how to install some linux on an usb drive18:46
sokakTimewarper, adding root to where it doesnt belong *shivers*18:47
hipodilskiI want to use it to check if one wireless device is working correctly18:47
Timewarpersokak, why not?18:47
khameis#linuxac18:47
|Anthony|hipodilski, what os do you use now?18:47
askreetTimewarper,  Why do you want to add root to any groups?18:47
sokakhipodilski, check pendrivelinux.com18:47
imok18:47
Timewarperaskreet, i got a problem with wicd and it cant connect to dbus18:47
hipodilski|Anthony|: Debian18:47
askreetIt's not like root needs permissions.18:47
Timewarperthey say i have to add my user to netdev18:47
askreetYour user is not root.18:47
sokaklOl18:47
Timewarperaskreet, i have this problem with root too18:47
Cybertinus|Anthony|, -l isn't a valid option to lspci :p. I've also tried lshw, but it also doesn't show up there18:48
|Anthony|hipodilski, unetbootin is a good tool cross-platform18:48
sokak|Anthony|, i stated pendrivelinux just for ease of use :)18:48
CybertinusI'm beginning to fear that the wireless card is physically broken or something18:48
imim trying to transfer files using ssh vhazrati ,it ask for a password ...i put my user password but it dont work?18:48
sokakCybertinus, before losing hope, just google for ubuntu+your hardware name+wireless18:49
hipodilski|Anthony|: ok I'm installing this tool how to use it?18:49
|Anthony|Cybertinus, my mistake on the -l18:49
askreetim,  What is the command you are running, that will help.18:49
urlin2uhipodilski, if you have a ubuntu install there is app on board startup disc creator18:50
imsftp vhazrati@192.168.0.10718:50
sokakhipodilski, pieces of cake :) http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/18:50
sokakstep by step18:50
Cybertinussokak, well, it did work. Also on 11.10. Ubuntu 8.04 was a really bad release for my hardware (Asus Eee 901, yes it is old), because it just hadn't WPA2 support. Ever since the first thing I  check with a new release is the wireless :). And it did work ;)18:50
imsftp vhazrati18:50
|Anthony|hipodilski, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lAzeoU3y9c18:50
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|Anthony|think that sums it up18:51
sokakCybertinus, i have the same little bastard ;o Stuck on Maverick, im lazy :)18:51
|Anthony|wireless can be a pain in the arse18:51
sokakwell, maverick handled it fine out of the box via jockey GTK - if junk works, i dont touch it uwu18:52
Cybertinussokak, ok :). still on 10.1018:52
sokak^^18:53
sokakin case of doubt, ethernet link, and jockey gtk18:53
sokakcan often save the day18:53
marcuyhow can I do to process php in my public_html with apache?18:53
Cybertinussokak, ok. Gonna check out jockey GTK18:53
|Anthony|marcuy, not sure if this is the right chan to ask in18:53
sokakmarcuy, place a file called test.php in your public html folder, containing just <?php phpinfo(); ?>18:54
sokakdoes it spew out anything?18:54
|Anthony|lol give him a sec18:54
|Anthony|how bout now?18:54
|Anthony|how bout now?18:54
|Anthony|how bout now?18:54
FloodBot1|Anthony|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:54
|Anthony|lol18:55
imhow can i transfer files to my other ubuntu computer using file zilla?18:55
sokakwhy not share a folder?18:55
|Anthony|im just setup samba... it'll be easier through nautilus18:55
imim new at this18:55
imhow?18:56
sokakGuys, bye everyone, dinner time :)18:56
tp43I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.  You know how in Macintosh systems, the top bar of application is separated from the program and put inside the top bar of panel?  Well, I always thought OS X was stupid because of this feature, and for some reason, Ubuntu went and copied this dumb idea18:56
|Anthony|l8r sokak18:56
Tech-1take care sokak18:56
Cybertinussokak, Jockey doen't find anything18:56
imbut im sending file to a remote desktop18:56
Cybertinusah, he is gone :)18:56
tp43I would like to disable it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!18:56
|Anthony|im are the terminals all on the same local net/18:56
|Anthony|?18:56
tp43Frig, I wish I never upgraded18:56
imno18:57
myrmidettehello people, my nm-applet is dying every 20 minutes, is there anything I can do about it?18:57
mecoWhat's an app I could use to unpack an iso file?18:57
|Anthony|tp43, i hate that too18:57
myrmidettethe last thing it says is always 'caught signal 15, shutting down'18:57
tp43|Anthony|, soooooooo stupid, I used to say to people, that feature on Mac is stupid, and now we are stuck with it too18:57
oCeanmeco: you don't unpack iso files, you can mount one though  sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt18:57
mecook!18:58
|Anthony|im than filezilla is a good option18:58
Cybertinusmeh18:58
|Anthony|im but it has to be set up on both machines18:59
CybertinusI give up. I'll just use the LAN from now one18:59
nmaxchatQuestion from a totally ignorant user. I need to alter a shell script. When I open the script it opens in read only ode. How do I change it ?18:59
Cybertinuson*18:59
SenixCybertinus: trying to use wireless?18:59
CybertinusSenix, yeah18:59
imok i can to that now but i dont know were to start18:59
|Anthony|nmaxchat, use terminal sudo gedit file18:59
jutnuxnmaxchat: gksudo gedit filename18:59
roscarI'm having trouble with the apt system. I've installed a semi-broken package for my e-reader. It's 32bit and I'm running 64bit. Apt is mad because the dependencies aren't all there but the semi-broken package is working well enough. How do I tell apt to ignore this package and just keep going on about it's business?18:59
SenixCybertinus: alright, whats the chipset?18:59
CybertinusSenix, the WLAN card did work on 11.10, but now it is just gone :S. lspsi doesn't show it anymore18:59
oCean|Anthony|: gksudo for graphical utilities19:00
nmaxchatant19:00
CybertinusSenix, no idea :)19:00
|Anthony|nmaxchat, sorry gksu19:00
CybertinusSenix, I've got an Asus Eee 90119:00
|Anthony|lol oCean caught myself, but you beat me to it19:00
balachmarHi, How can I install Ubuntu on btrfs raid10?19:00
travisHAZEOnly if your ready to rock *jam session*19:00
OerHeks|Anthony|, gksu is wrong too19:01
CybertinusSenix, accourding to Google it should be an Ralink RA286019:01
SenixCybertinus: oh you have a rt2800pci19:01
|Anthony|ugh19:01
sidneyI used HFS file server in the past it was easy and problem free19:01
|Anthony|does it have to be gksudo?19:01
SenixCybertinus: it should work by default...19:01
SenixCybertinus: try the driver center, there should be a driver out there for it.19:01
flippityflipIs there any way to calibrate a laptop screen on Ubuntu? I'm in the "Color" settings.19:01
CybertinusSenix, yeah, it should, since Ubuntu 8.10 or something19:01
Takaroshey19:02
Takaroshow can i remove a user from a group?19:02
flippityflipIs there any way to calibrate a laptop screen on Ubuntu? I'm in the "Color" settings and can't seem to click the "Calibrate" button.19:02
sln45Oneiric with unity2d. Is there a way to disable the menu autohide in the top bar, and just have the menu all the time instead of the window title?19:02
CybertinusSenix, well, lspci doesn't have a line for it ;(. Can the driver center find the card then?19:02
Takaroshow can i remove a user from a group?19:02
SenixCybertinus: I suggest that you down-grade your Ubuntu install to when it worked, there are a lot of problems with the 11.xx ubuntu versions.19:02
ubuntunoob.19:02
SenixCybertinus: yeah the driver center should be able to find the driver, that is if your card wasn't damaged somehow.19:02
AurigaSenix, Like Unity?19:03
SenixAuriga: yes.19:03
AurigaSenix, ^_^19:03
SenixAuriga: ^_^19:03
AurigaSenix, What are you using?19:03
SenixCybertinus: I have a lot of experience with wireless and Linux in general.19:03
Takaroshow can i remove a user from a group?19:04
roscarTo rephrase, how do I tell apt that the dependencies it can't find are actually these other packages, not the ones it really wants.19:04
CybertinusSenix, hmm, ok. The driver center is something I should find in Dash? I've searched for "driver" but all I found was "aditional drivers", which is for propriatary drivers, not for normal ones19:04
SenixAuriga: for school purposes (I'm in college, Computer Science major.)19:04
Jacnocaw crap adding 'root' to my highlights was a bad idea (my username on the network i run is 'root') because i'm getting highlights out the wazoo on this channel.19:04
SenixCybertinus: yes you want aditional drivers.19:04
AurigaSenix, I mean which distro?19:04
SenixAuriga: I'm using 11.04 with Gome2.x19:04
AurigaSenix, Have you used any Gnome3?19:05
SenixAuriga: I hate Gnome3 and Unity, they both suck.19:05
ubuntunoobgnome sounds like a troll19:05
CybertinusSenix, that window doesn't show any hardware I can install drivers for19:05
Fatalnixgnomes are related to trolls19:05
SenixAuriga: Gnome and KDE have been taking turns being the worst desktop.19:05
AurigaSenix, Agreed...19:06
imi need help setting up filezilla ,need to transfer from one computer to another that are not on the same network19:06
|Anthony|the unity frontend has some appeal19:06
AurigaSenix, Gnome2 is the way forward...19:06
Fatalnixbut anyways, I'm just showing someone how apammy this channel is19:06
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|Anthony|for non-linux people19:06
SenixCybertinus: then make sure your wireless card wasn't damaged some how, that is, try ubuntu 10.xx or 11.04, the one that worked with the card. You can use a live CD/DVD.19:06
GaRRuhow can I make the Wicd software not DC automatically?19:06
CybertinusSenix, ok. Will try that19:07
nmaxchatAnthony,jutnux thanks19:07
SenixCybertinus: if your card still wont work on a live CD then its been damaged and we can't do much about it.19:07
flippityflipDoes anyone know how to calibrate your screen on Ubuntu?19:07
jutnuxNo problem.19:07
tp43Unity Desktop is the latest gnome desktop?19:07
jutnuxflippityflip: You have to do it in your monitor settings I believe, i.e. using the hard buttons on the screen.19:07
CybertinusSenix, heh, no. If it is broken, I will need to replace it. And that can't be done via IRC :p19:07
CybertinusSenix, damn, you could get rich if you find a way to actually do that :p19:08
Senixtp43: no, Unity is completely "Different" to Gnome319:08
|Anthony|would be nice though, huh Cybertinus19:08
SenixCybertinus: yes i could, please watch your language here.19:08
jumoitany ideas on how to play a file *.pdf with audio in ubuntu 10.04??19:08
tp43Senix, oh, Unity is by Ubuntu, so I can remove it and install Gnome instead then eh?19:08
sln45Well, if no one can answer my first question, does anyone know how to change the order of the unity toolbar shortcuts in unity2d?19:08
Senixtp43: yes you can19:08
CybertinusSenix, ah, sorry about that. Will watch it in the future :)19:08
MonkeyDustjumoit  .pdf is not an audio extension19:08
|Anthony|a pdf with audio?19:08
tp43Senix, you like Unity?19:09
imi need help setting up filezilla ,need to transfer from one computer to another that are not on the same network19:09
Senixtp43: no I like the old gnome 2.x19:09
|Anthony|that'd be a first19:09
sln45tp43: Unity is cool19:09
Senixtp43: Gnome3 and Unity both suck, if you want a good desktop i'd go for KDE right now.19:09
MonkeyDustjumoit  pdf means printable document file, or something similar19:09
tp43Senix, hmmm, I am on Ubuntu 10, will I get gnome 2 or 3, why don't you like gnome 3?19:09
|Anthony|i think that the unity version of ubuntu should be a fork19:09
|Anthony|honestly19:09
sln45tp43: I can see gnome 2 and unity being a toss up on most computers, but on my netbook it's a beast19:09
benbloomI'm finding that my computer freezes during shutdown almost every time.how can i diagnose this problem? is there a specific log file i should examine?19:10
tp43sln45, I don't like the separation between program and the top bar like how it is on Mac, it is better as part of the program window19:10
|Anthony|for a touch screen netbook == beast19:10
Senixtp43: its too much like a macintosh, its also really hard to customize, and looks really ugly with the default theme. Just my opinion, I mean no offense to anyone.19:10
sln45|Anthony|: I think if gnome2 was an optional shell at login it would be fine.19:10
jumoitMonkeyDust, yeah, i see. i mean, my pdf file has audio embedded inside...but, after opening this file,i can't get audio...19:10
MonkeyDustSenix  i happen to like gnome3, thank you19:10
|Anthony|that'd work19:10
SenixMonkeyDust: well like I said, thats just my opinion and i meant no offense.19:11
tp43Senix, I always thought it was stupid of Mac systems to have that separation, pointless/useless innovation, and now we have that stupid feature too, I'm annoyed19:11
sln45tp43: It's good screen economy, and it's still reasonably easy to switch applications19:11
tp43Senix, what's wrong with gnome 3?19:11
oCean|Anthony|: tp43 sln45 This is not the channel for general discussion, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic and continue19:11
sln45tp43: My real problem is no more gnome gadgets on the toolbar19:11
roscaris there anybody here who can help me with my apt problem? Is there somewhere else I can go where somebody might be better able to help?19:11
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Senixtp43: yeah i know how that feels. Theres nothing really wrong with it.19:11
MonkeyDustroscar  start with asking a question19:12
sln45Oh, fine. Well, seriously, does anyone know how to rearrange the shortcuts in Unity 2d19:12
jribroscar: just ask your real question19:12
tp43Senix, I will check some videos first, otherwise i am gonna install kde then19:12
SaxyHi all, it anybody here how can halp me finding our more about BAZAAR?19:12
jribSaxy: what about it?19:12
Senixtp43: yep, there are lots of opinions about it out there, also, do a google search for some articles on it for more information.19:12
sln45This is silly. I'll just google it.19:12
sln45bye yall19:12
roscarI did. It got trampled by people talking about Unity. I have unmet dependencies for a package I installed. I have no intention of meeting these dependencies but I still want to be able to use apt.19:13
SaxyI'm trying to get right of how to arrnge all getting the revision number for different trunks and brunches.19:13
jribroscar: be more specific, use a pastebin19:13
tp43Ubuntu people waisted lots of resources making Unity19:13
oCeantp43: please move on19:13
cpgowhen watching a video using flash player in fullscreen, is there a way to have it not go to screensaver?19:13
tp43oCean, talk to someone else19:13
roscarsure19:13
jribSaxy: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/en/ also see #bzr19:14
jribtp43: please stay on-topic (ubuntu support)19:14
oCeantp43: I told you not to continue here, you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion19:14
roscarI'm pretending that I want to reinstall mplayer. http://pastebin.com/8Mgith6P19:14
jribroscar: why are you "pretending"?  I don't understand19:15
SaxyMaybe I explained wrong. I like to setup my own system getting the major and minjor numbers  vor the software working for me.19:15
Kingsyhow do you install the mjpg codec on ubuntu?19:16
SaxyI studied the whole manual already but didn't see / find an explaination / example for this.19:16
jribSaxy: try the #bzr channel19:16
roscarit doesn't matter what I'm trying to install. The point is that no matter what it is, the kobo-desktop dependencies aren't being met so I can't do anything.19:16
jribroscar: where is kobo-desktop from?  Why don't you install the dependencies?19:17
SaxyWill do so, thanks !19:17
tp43Unity loads slow19:17
jumoitMonkeyDust: please check out here http://acrobatusers.com/forum/rich-mediaflash/audio-playback-acrobat-reader-10119:17
|Anthony|roscar, try building from source19:17
roscarI can't meet these dependencies because I'm running 64bit, and I don't care to because the software works.19:17
jribroscar: where is kobo-desktop from?19:17
roscarfrom Kobo the company.19:17
|Anthony|roscar, and when source tells you you have unmet dependencies then i suppose you'll know what to do19:17
Arizona_Bayhi19:18
Arizona_Bayhow can i stream from ubuntu?19:18
roscarIt's a crappy unsupported deb for my ereader.19:18
Arizona_Baylive stream19:18
LABcrabHello!  Is Ubuntu on a flash drive supposed to be slow, or is that just for the setup?  Also, will it damage my flash drive?19:18
jribroscar: you should contact them about it.  To do what you ask, you have two options: 1) rebuild the source package (this is different than simply building the software from source; see ubottu) or 2) use equivs (not recommended)19:18
jrib!source > roscar19:18
ubotturoscar, please see my private message19:18
LABcrabArizona_Bay: Stream what, from where, to where?19:18
LABcrabArizona_Bay: As in LiveStream.com website?19:18
Arizona_BayLABcrab from my computer to livestream exactly19:18
Arizona_Bayyes19:18
Gentoo64LABcrab, instKKUBF RI IBW19:19
Gentoo64installing to one?19:19
Gentoo64sorry abotu that ^19:19
roscarrebuilding is impossible. It's not open. Can you elaborate on equivs?19:19
Kingsyok guys I am getting an error with guvcview it crashes with this output --> [mp2 @ 0x3198800] codec type or id mismatches    could not open codec..19:19
Kingsywhich codec do I need?19:19
LABcrabGentoo64: Yes, it is saying "Restoring previously installed packages" and it is slow.19:19
Gentoo64LABcrab, flash drivbe will be slow19:19
jribroscar: apt-cache show equivs   but you should contact kobo.  equivs is a very kludgy solution to your problem19:20
LABcrabArizona_Bay: i use the Express applet, built-in webcam works, proprietary Flash required.19:20
Gentoo64million times slower than hard drive19:20
LABcrabGentoo64: Compared to CD?19:20
cpgoI cant believe this bug still exists 5 years later...19:20
Gentoo64no if youre using usb for livecd then itll be ok19:20
Arizona_BayLabCrab is that for camera live streaming?19:20
roscarjrib, oh I know. Cludgy is what I'm looking for19:20
LABcrabArizona_Bay: Yes.19:20
LABcrabGentoo64: So why do people advertise it like it's a good replacement for hard drive?19:20
Arizona_Baywhat about just streaming what im doing on  my desktop?19:20
Gentoo64LABcrab, they dont. your probably on about ssds19:21
roscarjrib, the deb is unsupported and for 32bit. that it runs at all is a blessing.19:21
Gentoo64which are miles faster19:21
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LABcrabArizona_Bay: Not sure.  Maybe there's a plugin to create a web cam using your desktop?19:21
th^2should Citrix work on Ubuntu?19:21
Arizona_Bayhmm alright thanks ill check it ou !19:21
LABcrabArizona_Bay: There's also good ol' VNC.19:21
Arizona_BayVNC?19:21
Arizona_Bayill google it :P19:22
tp43my cdrom isn't working, and I want to remove a windows partition to expand my ubuntu partition, is it safe to run gparted while booted in?19:22
LABcrabGentoo64: Yeah, but some pople are like all crazy about using Ubuntu from a USB.  They say it is good like a live CD.  The way i have it right now, it's installing Ubuntu on the USB like if it was a hard drive.19:22
Gentoo64tp43, you can expand while using root19:22
Gentoo64LABcrab, people talk abot using live usb instead of cd,19:23
tp43you can expand the partition while its mounted?19:23
khameishi19:23
roscarok, equivs sounds great, is there a way to install it with out running apt-get -f install first? Can I get apt to ignore this problem?19:23
Gentoo64LABcrab, liveusb a lot of people dont have cd drives eg netbooks, and usb can load faster than waiting for cd to spin up etc19:23
LABcrabGentoo64: Well, i need to create accounts on there that stay all the time, as opposed to those that delete a lot.19:23
Gentoo64but i wouldnt personally install on a usb19:23
Picitp43: no. You cannot expand a partition while it is mounted.19:23
oCeanth^2: the ICA cllient? yes, that should work19:23
khameisهل يوجد عرب نسفيد من خبرتهم19:23
LABcrab!ar > khameis19:24
ubottukhameis, please see my private message19:24
tp43Pici, didn't think so, you need to boot into gparted, thing is my cdrom isn't working19:24
Gentoo64LABcrab, can you not use a hard drive?19:24
LABcrabGentoo64: No, i want a Windows refund from Toshiba.19:24
th^2oCean, okay. it doesnt launch from chromium19:24
Pici!sa | khameis19:24
ubottukhameis: For the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية19:24
gregjanyone could help me with this please:19:25
gregjhttp://pastebin.com/9Uk7GYV919:25
khameisok thanks19:25
Picitp43: You  can either download the Ubuntu live usb thing from our website or investigate whether the grub boot disk has a usb variant.19:25
tp43if I remove unity and install gnome 3 then upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, will it upgrade gnome or install unity again?  Maybe i should upgrade then switch to gnome 319:25
LABcrabGentoo64: There should be a message in the Ubuntu setup warning users about this.19:25
Gentoo64LABcrab, warning about what?19:25
oCeanth^2: you're on 64 bit ubuntu? I remember running : ldd /usr/lib/ICAclient/wfcmgr and libXm.so missing19:26
LABcrabGentoo64: Installing Ubuntu to an USB.19:26
Gentoo64LABcrab, why a warning? Because it's slow?19:26
th^2oCean, no 32 bit19:26
LABcrabGentoo64: Because it's apparently ineffective compared to a hard drive.19:26
tp43Pici, my laptop needs to be able to boot usb, then I have to figure out how to make a bootable usb19:26
oCeanth^2: still, have you tried starting the client by hand (ie not in chromium) Running the ldd command might show if you have missing libraries19:26
ActionParsnipTp: you will upgrade to gnome3 ane reinstall unity due to the ubuntu-desktop metapackage19:27
Gentoo64LABcrab, well I don;t think they should need a warning. For a lot of people it's pretty obvious, as flash drives are designed for data like pics vids etc not to run OS from19:27
tp43ActionParsnip, thx19:27
Gentoo64but nothing stopping you19:27
LABcrabGentoo64: That's not what i heard.  Also, what about Windows 8 USB drives?19:27
Gentoo64idk19:28
roscarI guess I'll just try reinstalling kobo later. Thanks for the help jrib19:28
LABcrabHow much usage can a USB drive suffer before it gets damaged?19:28
freaky[t]hi all i have a problem upgrading ubuntu to 11.10: http://pastie.org/3006720 <-- what can I do - I mean, how do I even find out what packages or package is causing the conflict?19:28
Gentoo64LABcrab, i suppose usb3 would be faster, as its mostly the slow sequential read and writes from most flash drives19:28
Gentoo64LABcrab, tbh most last years19:28
urlin2utp43, what ever you do make an image of the 11.04 in case there is a problem, clonezilla works very nicely.19:28
roscarI might pester this channel a bit more depending on how my equivs experience goes.\19:28
LABcrabGentoo64: Does running Ubuntu damage the hard drive?19:28
tp43these: /dev/shm, /var/run, and /var/lock never use more than 100mb as far as I can tell, can I change the alot they get of 700mb to 200mb?19:29
Gentoo64LABcrab, none of mine have ever messed  up. ive still got a 1gb from 7 yeats ago workign fine19:29
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gregjany ideas why it says I'm running out of disk space, despite me having over 1GB free? http://pastebin.com/9Uk7GYV919:29
Gentoo64LABcrab, no it doesnt damage it... why would it?19:29
josthow to make a script run on boot and stop on shutdown? The script contains an endless loop, so it never stops by itself.19:29
ActionParsnipfreaky[t]: what are you running to generate the error?19:29
LABcrabGentoo64: From having to write a lot.19:29
gregjjost: read about sysV19:29
Gentoo64LABcrab, you mean damage the flash drive?19:29
LABcrabMmhmm.19:29
freaky[t]ActionParsnip: im using the ubuntu upgrade tool. it automatically starts when the GUI loaded up.19:30
Gentoo64LABcrab, well it'd wear it down faster than if you was just storing data on it. but they should still last years19:30
ActionParsnipLABcrab: if you put a lot of temp stuff on a platter based drive or tempfs, it will last a good while19:30
urlin2ugregj, is that a usb or the HD, never the less that is to small of buffer for not overfilling it.19:30
freaky[t]ActionParsnip:  wait I think i can fix the problem. simply install the held package kdevelop :D19:31
gregjurlin2u: HD19:31
LABcrabIt is still faster than a floppy disc?19:31
LABcrab*disk19:31
gregjurlin2u: I have plenty of space as you can see there19:31
freaky[t]ActionParsnip: it's installing19:31
ActionParsnipfreaky[t]: but are you running a command in terminal?19:31
Gentoo64LABcrab, also bear in mind as I said theyren ot designed for continuous read / writes19:31
gregjurlin2u: its a netbook with 8GB SSD19:31
Gentoo64they dont have special controllers like ssds have19:31
ActionParsnipfreaky[t]: nice :-)19:31
urlin2ugregj, the genral advice is only 70% fullyour way beyond that.19:31
Gentoo64just cheap plain memory19:31
LABcrabGentoo64: SSDs cost a lot.19:31
Gentoo64yeah ofc, for a reason19:31
Pici!ot19:31
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:31
gregjurlin2u: yeah, but i still have plenty enough19:31
urlin2ugregj, do you its not working?19:32
th^2oCean, how i can launch ctrix by hand?19:32
Gentoo64LABcrab, ofc its faster than a floppy disk what are you talking about lol19:32
gregjurlin2u: what you mean19:32
PiciGentoo64, LABcrab: Can we move the hardware discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?19:32
gregjurlin2u: yes, but I can't imagine that it magically used 1.4GB in 2s19:32
urlin2ugregj, exspand the partition if you can.19:32
gregjurlin2u: dd can't fill it that quick19:32
Gentoo64Pici, sorry hes on about installing ubuntu to flash drive, so i thought it waso n topic19:32
gregjurlin2u: it is already filling out the whole disk19:32
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gregjurlin2u: that's an 8GB disk, with one partitino19:33
urlin2ugregj, and tha is your problem.19:33
PiciGentoo64: It was, but you've both sort of diregressed :)19:33
wunschnameurban_grandier19:33
ActionParsnipgregj: try: sudo apt-get clean   if its a19:33
Gentoo64Pici, yeah soz19:33
gregjActionParsnip: I did19:33
ActionParsnipAn OS partition19:33
ActionParsnipCool19:33
LABcrabBut if i create a live CD that burns to my USB, i can't create individual accounts on that live USB.19:33
gregjActionParsnip: that doesn't help either19:33
ActionParsnipgregj: re19:33
gregjActionParsnip: it just makes it re-download the deb19:33
Gentoo64LABcrab, if its live, then itl be run from ram19:33
ActionParsnipRemoved old kernels?19:34
oCeanth^2: hm, doing this from memory, i think there is a wfica.sh, and a wfmgr (or something) both should be able to start from the cmdline19:34
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gregjActionParsnip: I'm not sure if I should touch them19:34
gregjActionParsnip: this happens automatically over and over again whenever there's an update.19:35
LABcrabhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ and http://www.linutop.com/19:35
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th^2oCean, no i cannot find anything by that name19:35
khameis#linuxac19:36
gregjActionParsnip: and I can't uninstall anything, it complains about that upgrade being broken now19:36
oCeanth^2: ok, I'm sorry I have this no longer installed. But I'm sure since I used it with previous employer (so on ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04)19:36
jomshi19:36
th^2oCean, okay. thx19:37
AndChat-gregj: hmm. Can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install      please19:37
gregjAndChat-: sure19:37
oCeanth^2: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo19:37
th^2these are the little things that makes windows look very tempting :D19:37
jakub1236hi19:38
oCeanth^2: no no19:38
oCean:)19:38
th^2oCean, :D19:38
urlin2uth^2, virus, malware and all eh. :D19:38
gregjAndChat-: http://pastebin.com/icMF1TkA19:38
th^2ActionParsnip, actually not that one. dont know why but my desktop just started working by installing .deb19:39
AndChat-th^2: as the song goes: Every OS sucks (and blows)19:39
th^2oCean, i mean19:39
jomshi19:39
th^2urlin2u, thats true. my desktop ubuntu install has come a long way from 6.0419:40
th^2no windows install has ever survived that long19:40
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AndChat-gregj: 'no space left on device' is a massive clue19:40
gregjAndChat-: http://pastebin.com/HBEStk7N19:41
gregjAndChat-: and that's even bigger one ;)19:41
AndChat-gregj: can you pastebin the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image19:42
roscarhttp://pastebin.com/yPW1NYDu I'm hoping to get help using equivs to solve this problem Notably lines 26 and 27. My main issue is not being sure how to use equivs properly. jrib, your helpful self still around?19:42
gregjAndChat-: I think I cracked it19:42
tp43How do you see the dashboard?19:42
gregjAndChat-: there was plenty of old headers in /usr/src from previous version of ubuntu and 2.6.x kernels19:42
AndChat-gregj: what was the hammer?19:43
gregjAndChat-: its amazing that dpkg didn't remove those19:43
gregjAndChat-: but still, I have tons of space19:43
gregjAndChat-: so wtf19:43
AndChat-gregj: yes, remove old kernels and they go bye bye19:43
gregjAndChat-: yum19:43
gregjAndChat-: yup19:43
gregjAndChat-: ok, thanks nonetheless :)19:43
jacobinhello19:44
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Gentoo64jacobin, hi19:45
AndChat-Hi jacobin19:45
jacobinhowa are you all19:45
Gentoo64ok you19:45
AndChat-Tired19:45
Gentoo64AndChat-, you actionparsnip?19:46
ubuntunoobhey can i get  "ubuntu cloak" ?19:46
Gentoo64ubuntunoob, yes#freenode19:46
Gentoo64ask in there19:46
LABcrabGentoo64: What about a USB OS like Jolicloud or etc.?19:46
ubuntunoobok19:46
Gentoo64LABcrab, no idea19:46
Gentoo64prob the same speed, just different os19:46
Gentoo64and data is stored in cloud in joli afaik, but i dont kniow anything about it19:46
AndChat-Gentoo64: yeah. Blackspot kicks me off and my alternate nick is AndChat as thats the client I'm using19:47
Gentoo64ah ok19:47
Gentoo64LABcrab, why does it have to be on flash drive btw?19:47
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AndChat-LABcrab: a sweet OS to boot off USB is xpud. Jolicloud is ubuntu based but has its own support channels19:48
LABcrabGentoo64: To leave my Toshiba HDD intact so that i can still get a Windows refund.19:48
LABcrabAndChat-: So it will be as slow as Ubuntu?19:48
Gentoo64LABcrab, best one to use would be something light that dont require a load of disk like gnome 3 does19:48
AndChat-LABcrab: jolicloud will be, yes19:48
LABcrabGentoo64 and AndChat-: What about Jolicloud live?19:49
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kinkyjust use knoppix or grml :p19:49
Gentoo64LABcrab, no idea.19:49
th^2fuck citrix on ubuntu. im using my iPad now!19:49
guntbert!language | th^219:49
ubottuth^2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:49
oCeanth^2: please control the language19:49
Gentoo64th^2, how are they related?19:49
webnet!language | th^219:50
ubottuth^2: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:50
AndChat-LABcrab: same thing. Just runs in ram and pulls thing from the storage when needed. You'd have to ask in the jolicloud channel for real answers19:50
th^2yes yes im sorry :D19:51
oCeanwebnet: that was a little redundant :(19:51
th^2this has to be an american channel?19:51
Gentoo64LABcrab, what do you want from the os? just general use?19:51
LABcrabCan i use the Ubuntu USB creator for ISO files?19:51
Gentoo64i didnt know you could get a windows refund btw19:51
LABcrabGentoo64: Quick web browsing.19:51
Gentoo64LABcrab, use chromium os19:51
Gentoo64lol19:51
webnethaha. i saw that. sorry. i was typing slow. and by the time i typed it like 18 people already said it. sorry oCean :)19:51
LABcrabGentoo64: Toshiba's making it a pita, Acer makes it a walk in the park.19:51
oCeanwebnet: nvm, no problem19:52
Gentoo64LABcrab, http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/19:52
Gentoo64thatll be fine on usb19:52
Gentoo64and what you need19:52
LABcrabGentoo64: Hmm.19:53
Gentoo64well, youd get quick web browsing, nothign more, and it has usb builds there19:53
Gentoo64and itd be fast on usb i assume19:53
Gentoo64idk google it19:53
AndChat-LABcrab: use unetbootin as an alternative. You could also try tinycore, puppy, slitaz or xpud. All are super light19:54
th^2should locate find everything?19:55
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AndChat-th^2: after you run: sudo update-db    yes19:55
pim_Hi, why does ubuntu require I reboot after updating?19:55
Gentoo64pim_, what update? kernel?19:56
pim_no not kernel19:56
Gentoo64or graphics drivers something like that19:56
AndChat-pim_: its to boot a new kernel or load a new proprietory dri19:56
pim_It can unload and load the kernel modules?19:56
AndChat-pim_: its not really required19:56
benbloompim_: in the latest update there are very low level modifications that require a full restart to implement19:56
pim_benbloom in the latest kernel?19:57
freeman_Всем привет)19:57
Gentoo64pim_, reboot is normally easier. theres ways round it but normally just reboot19:57
th^2AndChat-, i sudo whaat?19:57
red_hi i cant get my webcam to work in flash19:57
LABcrabAndChat-: There's so many choices.19:57
Gentoo64th^2, that command should update the filel ist19:57
benbloomi guess your question was a bit unclear pim_19:57
Gentoo64to use locate with19:57
freeman_Кто нибудь русский язык знает?)19:57
Gentoo64!ru19:57
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:57
Gentoo64:s19:57
Gentoo64am i right?19:58
sylwaehi all19:58
freeman_привет)19:58
th^2Gentoo64, update-db?19:58
pim_benbloom that is not unlikely19:58
Gentoo64th^2, yeah i think so19:58
freeman_У кого операционая система Ylmf OS 3.0?19:58
red_hi ny one help with flash please?19:58
benbloomdouble negatives only make things more complicated19:59
th^2Gentoo64, well my setup doesnt know that command19:59
AndChat-th^2: locate uses a database of files, if they have changed then the database is inaccurate, the command updates the database so the new files and removed files are appreciated19:59
Gentoo64th^2, you could use find command19:59
sylwaeis it normal to have better read performance on SSD when my laptop i only on battery ?19:59
th^2Gentoo64, is it the same as locate?19:59
AndChat-freeman_: ylmf is not supported here19:59
Gentoo64th^2, find / -name blah19:59
Gentoo64will search root for exact name19:59
drijhi! can someone hopefully help? in Ubuntu 11.10 I'm trying to see pidgin icon in the system tray. but it won't appear even after setting systray-whitelist to ['all'] and restarting ... :(20:00
Gentoo64th^2, gnome should have some search gui tool btw20:00
benbloomI find the usb-creator app to be sluggish and buggy. is there any reason not to use partition editor to set up usb partitions and then rsync the files from mounted iso to the drive?20:00
AndChat-Gentoo64: add sudo and it supresses access denied messages20:00
Gentoo64yeah20:00
Gentoo64sorry im so used to running stuff as root lol20:00
Gentoo64forget to mention sudo20:01
th^2Gentoo64, i dont want GUI :S have always used locate but this is a new install20:01
AndChat-benbloom: it adds a bootloader to the device. Have you tried unetbootin?20:01
Gentoo64th^2, well both commands will find stuff20:01
truefxhow to join lazarus channel ?20:01
imok20:01
imthanks20:01
AndChat-Gentoo64: i hope not web browsers ;-)20:01
Gentoo64truefx, if it's called #lazaurus then /join #lazaurus20:02
urlin2ubenbloom, you need as bootloader, I heard that the latest ubuntu iso can be dd and booted never tried though. There is unetbootin and other usb loaders.20:02
Gentoo64AndChat-, ofc not lol only stuff that _needs_ it20:02
urlin2uas=a20:02
Gentoo64chromium refuses to run as root anyway :)20:02
benbloomnope AndChat- i will look at unetbootin. is there no way to manually add  bootloader?20:02
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AndChat-benbloom: sure but if an app can do it for you, why pull your hair trying to get it right20:03
urlin2ubenbloom, you don't need to there are very good loaders check out multisystm at pendrivelinux as well.20:03
benbloomk. thanks for the leads. I'm looking at those three20:04
urlin2ubenbloom, this one lets you load multiple iso's. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/20:04
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skegeekI just did a fresh install a day ago and I noticed if it's unattended for a while, the screen turns off and it refuses to come back. I have to push the power button to reboot. Is this a known issue?20:06
benbloomis it me or is usb-creator just a bad app? why is it the default canonical flashdrive maker?20:06
Gentoo64skegeek, ive heard of it20:07
Gentoo64dno the fix20:07
AndroidLoverInSFanyone get kernel panic from the latest kernel 3.0.0-14?  i never had any on 11.10 but within 1 day got one20:07
Gentoo64AndroidLoverInSF, do you use any custom drivers?20:07
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AndChat-benbloom: usb-creator is in a default install but doesn't mean much20:07
AndroidLoverInSFnot really unless its graphics driver20:07
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Gentoo64AndroidLoverInSF, probably better to post on forum20:08
Gentoo64or google on it20:08
AndroidLoverInSFok i'll try20:08
skegeekI just changed the power setting, see if that helps.20:08
LINCE10CIAO20:08
AndChat-AndroidLoverInSF: which gpu are you using20:08
LINCE10!LIST20:09
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:09
Gentoo64!list | LINCE1020:09
ubottuLINCE10: please see above20:09
urlin2ubenbloom, never liked it myself.20:09
AndChat-Gentoo64: please don't tell people to google, the channel may as well not exist if we just say that to everyone20:09
Gentoo64yeah ofc, but kernel panic can be specific20:10
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benbloomI keep finding that many of the (k)ubuntu default apps are much less well constructed than many alternatives. makes me wonder y they are chosen above others?20:10
Gentoo64benbloom, some people like them. i think all the kde stuff is tacky20:11
Gentoo64a lot of them are kde de bundled though to be more complete de20:12
AndChat-benbloom: you can't please them all. I use minimal now and build up rather than wasting time gutting the apps i simply don't use or prefer an alternative to20:13
benbloomi prefer the kdm to gdm though, and unity nearly caused me to have a brain hemmorage20:13
RokcStarhey20:13
AndChat-Hi RokcStar20:13
AndroidLoverInSFAndChat: NVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory GPU20:13
benbloomyes AndChat- i'm headed in that direction now. i've got enough of a handle on the linux concept. only thing is apt has totally spoiled me20:14
LABcrabAn unformatted drive = one with no partitions?  i miss them floppy days.  :'(20:14
AndroidLoverInSFi think kde apps are more functional than gnome apps or at least gnome apps in unity. but kde is less stable than gnome or unity20:14
AndChat-AndroidLoverInSF: boot to an ok kernel, remove proprietary driver, boot to newest kernel and then reinstall the driver20:14
Gentoo64LABcrab: you miss floppys? lol20:15
Gentoo64i couldnt stand them when they were even the norm20:15
AndChat-I find kde to be fine but gvfs is awesome20:15
RokcStarhow are kde apps more functional but less stable?20:15
AndroidLoverInSFthanks for the tip20:15
LABcrabGentoo64: Not so much floppies, but the memories from floppy days, and just how things were less complicated back then.  i was actually one of the first at my school to use a flash drive, when it was 128 MB.20:15
LABcrabFor fifty bucks.20:16
benbloomlol Gentoo64, remember that aweful sound they'd make? like a sad fart20:16
balachmarHi, has anybody here tried to install ubuntu on btrfs raid10?20:16
LABcrabbenbloom: LOL.20:16
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chz|baconhey guys anyone here willing to lend me a hand with some mdadm questions?20:16
AndChat-I have a PATA Zip drive in a box. 250mb baby, yeah!20:16
Gentoo64benbloom: hmm i dont remember the sound of them actually. rememver it being weird though20:16
Kurdistanhey. I justed switched from distro x to ubuntu. I saved my home directery. now I can not make any changes does folder/file20:17
Gentoo64AndChat-: heh i forgot about zip drives20:17
AndroidLoverInSFfor instance, in firefox, in unity you cant right click on bookmark menu and open in a new tab. but in kde firefox can. and kde plasma desktop sometimes gets stuck when i click on the 'start menu'20:17
Kurdistanonly read/watch/listen but can not delete etc20:17
jribKurdistan: you need to make sure your user owns the files in his home20:17
LABcrabGentoo64: i remember reading about ZIP drives like they were the real deal!  AndChat-.20:17
jellowcan I run a jail inside a jail?20:17
Kurdistanjrib thats the problem20:17
Kurdistanhow can I make myself the owner?20:17
jribKurdistan: boot into recovery mode and use chown.  Do you know how?20:17
AndChat-Kurdistan: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME20:18
jrib!permissions > Kurdistan20:18
ubottuKurdistan, please see my private message20:18
Gentoo64Kurdistan: sudo chown you /home/user20:18
Gentoo64should sort it20:18
RokcStaroh20:18
PiciLABcrab, Gentoo64: Please, this channel is already busy enough, #ubuntu-offtopic exists for this sort of thing.20:18
Kurdistanjrib I am reading that.20:18
AndChat-Gentoo64: LABcrab: and jazz drives :-)20:18
KurdistanGentoo64, is that all?20:18
jribKurdistan: it should be recursive (like AndChat- suggested)20:18
Gentoo64Kurdistan: try it..20:18
Gentoo64Kurdistan: ohh chown -R20:18
jribKurdistan: Gentoo64's suggestion will likely not be enough20:18
Gentoo64sorry!20:18
Gentoo64yeah chown -R20:18
RokcStari switched from gnome ubuntu to kubuntu and i've noticed that menus load much quicker20:19
* AndChat- wishes he was a parsnip20:19
Kurdistanjrib, that you gave me was long.20:19
jribKurdistan: what?20:19
Kurdistanwhat exactly should I focus reading?20:19
Gentoo64Kurdistan: what do youj mean20:19
RokcStarthe overall feel of kubuntu is more rapid than gnome on ubuntu20:19
AndChat-RokcStar: afaik, a lot of the libs are preloaded. I could be wrong20:20
cablopi wonder how safe is home folder encryption on ubuntu20:20
MahaVishnuRokcStar, and fluxbox on ubuntu is even faster than that.20:20
Gentoo64i think ubuntu uses some sort of prelink by default20:20
jribKurdistan: you should understand all of it, it is not long.  Focus on the part about ownership...20:20
RokcStari've never tried flux20:20
MahaVishnuRokcStar, its the best WM imho20:20
Gentoo64and openbox is faster than fluxbox. de wars20:20
Gentoo64!fight20:20
askreetdwm ftw.20:20
Kurdistanjrib, I am running xubuntu.20:20
AndChat-MahaVishnu: and awesome is flwm is faster still :-)20:20
askreetI use dwm at work anyway..20:20
jribKurdistan: that's fine20:20
MahaVishnufluxbox ftw. ;-P20:21
RokcStarwait i meant Xubuntu...not kubuntu. my bad20:21
Gentoo64RokcStar: xubuntu will be faster then gnome yeah20:21
cablopi am using gnome3... with a dirty trick... Avant Window Navigator to replace the dock20:21
cablop:P20:21
cablopit works20:21
AndChat-*box ftw20:21
LABcrabPici: my question was simply: unformatted = no partitions?20:21
Gentoo64xbox?20:21
oCeanEnough. If you want a usability discussion, use #ubuntu-offtopic20:21
MahaVishnucd /join #ubuntu-offtopic20:21
MahaVishnulol!20:21
LABcrabGentoo64: Not by much.20:21
askreet...lol20:21
askreeti've done that before. :(20:21
RokcStardoes anyone even bother with theme applications like emerald and other things that just totally make things sluggish?20:22
MahaVishnuwrong window ;-(20:22
PiciLABcrab: You were talking about the noises that floppy drives make20:22
AndChat-Gentoo64: flux|open|black20:22
LABcrabPici: No, someone else brought that up, and i added a few comments here and there.20:22
Kurdistanjrib, I read it. can I change ownship for folder and all the files in it?20:22
oCeanRokcStar: do you have an actual tech support question? This channel is not for general discussion20:22
Gentoo64Kurdistan: thats what the -R does20:22
KurdistanI am lost. is there not any easy way?20:23
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AndChat-LABcrab: there are vids online of people making music with floppy read/writes. There's a really good Imperial March one20:23
jribKurdistan: one command is the easy way20:23
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oCeanAndChat-: come on!20:23
PiciAndChat-: That goes for you too, offtopic chatter belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, not #ubuntu20:23
AndChat-Kurdistan: what is easier than one command?20:23
bashnerd1Kurdistan: man chown ;)20:24
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LABcrabAndChat-: i bet.  i'm getting JoliCloud.  Just wondering: unformatted = unpartitioned?20:24
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AndChat-Pici: oCean: understood20:24
LABcrabWhat is the difference between "unformatted", "formatted" and "IBM formatted"?20:24
Kurdistangksudo thunar worked20:24
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Kurdistanbut will it work if I end it?20:24
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MahaVishnuKurdistan, you are being very daft right now, you have been told multiple times how to fix your problem (IN THE EASIEST WAY TOO)20:25
LABcrab:'(20:25
KurdistanMahaVishnu, and that is reading a pages?20:25
Kurdistanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions20:25
MahaVishnuKurdistan, no sir its using the command you were given.20:25
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Kurdistanread yourself and tell me how to fix it20:25
MahaVishnuthey gave you that link, so you can learn about the operating system you are using20:26
PiciUnknow: Please take a nick and stick with it.20:26
MahaVishnuKurdistan, I know how to fix it, I knew before they told you. but guess what? I saw them tell you also.20:26
AndChat-Kurdistan: well yeah, you are running the file browser as root so permissions aren't an issue. Your user will still not be able to save data until it is the owner of its own $HOME20:26
jribKurdistan: two people gave you the command, the page is so you understand what you are doing if you care to20:26
MahaVishnusome people just don't care to listen.20:27
joshteamhmmm anyone know the apt-get package for java jdk?20:28
Kurdistanjrib, you said one of the command line was not enough20:28
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AndChat-Kurdistan: to make the OS work, you will need to run EVERYTHING with gksudo which I am very sure is longer and harder (sic) than one command20:28
jribKurdistan: and said the other was.20:28
Barbariandudejoshteam, if I remember right the package is sun-java6-jdk20:28
Kurdistanjrib, I most missed it.20:28
MahaVishnuo_O20:28
Kurdistanwhich was the other one?20:28
joshteamBarbariandude:  nope :(20:28
AndChat-Kurdistan: once more. The command you need is:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME20:29
jribKurdistan: sudo chown -R $USER: ~20:29
Barbariandudejoshteam, lemme check my packages, 2 secs20:29
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joshteamthanks Barbariandude20:29
Kurdistansudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME <<---- jrib ?20:29
MahaVishnujoshteam, just type sudo apt-cache search jdk in a terminal20:29
jribKurdistan: sure, as your user20:29
jellowHi Im in a jail without root , I want to run Screen but it needs /dev/pts , How can I tell it to use somethign else?20:29
AndChat-Kurdistan: run that and you will have significantly fewer problems20:30
MahaVishnujoshteam, if you learn to fish for your self you, you will catch many fat salmon :-)20:30
Kurdistanjrib, instead of user I should choose my username?20:30
jribKurdistan: $USER will automatically be replaced with your username20:30
Kurdistanjrib, thx.20:30
joshteamMahaVishnu: good call; found it and installing thanks a ton20:30
MahaVishnujoshteam, no problemo ;-)20:30
AndChat-Kurdistan: $USER and $HOME will change for you20:30
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Kurdistanchown: kan inte komma åt "/home/myusername/.gvfs": Åtkomst nekas20:31
AndChat-Dead handy variables20:31
jribKurdistan: that's fine20:31
KurdistanAndChat-, it did not work.20:31
Barbariandudejoshteam, according to my apt-cache, it's what I said it was20:31
AndChat-Kurdistan: it did, that will happen20:31
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KurdistanAndChat-, okey. I will see.20:31
benbloomwhy would an item install via apt-get and then not show up anywhere on the system?20:32
AndChat-Kurdistan: try things now as you expect20:32
KurdistanAndChat-, :) thx dude.20:32
AndChat-See20:32
KurdistanAndChat-, it worked.20:32
Picibenbloom: What package?20:32
Barbariandudebenbloom, try showing hidden files on your home directory20:32
benbloommultiboot20:32
AndChat-Kurdistan: i did tell you ;-)20:32
Picibenbloom: You can use dpkg -L packagename to see what files were installed for that package.20:32
benbloomit was in the repository, so i figured it'd show up in my $PATH if i20:33
benbloomahhh ty pici20:33
KurdistanAndChat-, you saved me a lot of time.20:33
Kurdistanmany thx.20:33
BarbariandudePici, useful, gotta remember that one20:33
AndChat-Kurdistan: the ownerships were all out of whack, you just set the owner to your user in ubuntu20:33
AndChat-Kurdistan: its the quick way from earlier, remember?20:34
benbloomso there doesn;t seem to be a binary when i looked at dpkg -L multiboot20:34
KurdistanAndChat-, true.20:34
Kurdistan:)20:34
AndChat-;-)20:34
muteshw do i make a drive auto mount at startup?20:34
muteshow*20:35
BluesKaj!fstab | mutes20:35
ubottumutes: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions20:35
jellowto create a chroot jail do I need root?20:35
mutescool, thanks20:35
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Kurdistanwhat is the difference between nvidia current and the other nvidia current?20:37
Kurdistanis the other one like x-swat ppa with the latest stable?20:37
LABcrabCiao!20:38
brightsparkDoes the command-line system (an option on the alternate installer) provide for multiple virtual terminals (ie the ctrl-alt-f# feature)?20:39
MahaVishnubrightspark, yea tty has nothing to do with X20:40
brightsparkMahaVishnu, thanks20:40
MahaVishnubrightspark, and you can always install that and later on install a GUI.20:41
MahaVishnuif you decide you want one.20:41
brightsparkMahaVishnu, that is what I am thinking- I'm on Maverick and hated Unity when I tried it, so I'm thinking of moving to command-line when I upgrade and checking out fluxbox, xfce, lxde, etc.20:42
MahaVishnubrightspark, fluxbox !20:42
MahaVishnuxfce is nice too.20:43
joshteamhmm, I just upgraded Ubuntu to 11.10 and now when I do things like run Firefox I get this error message each time: http://pastebin.com/BrebkB6i any ideas?20:43
brightsparkMahaVishnu, I read that for some of these (openbox and I think fluxbox too) you can only edit settings by modifying text files- seems a bit crude.20:44
Lordvedahello world20:44
GaRRuAny Smart web designer would like to answer some questions of mine?20:44
Barbariandude!nounity | brightspark20:44
ubottubrightspark: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic20:44
LordvedaI am trying to learn php5, I need to know how to make apache2 work with my php5 web pages in order to learn20:45
Barbariandude!anyone | GaRRu20:45
ubottuGaRRu: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:45
MahaVishnubrightspark, yea but its so easy really. keybindings go in ~/.fluxbox/keys and startup apps go in ~/.fluxbox/startup20:45
MahaVishnuits actually very easy.20:45
MahaVishnubrightspark, and there is an app to change your theme / icons / font from a gui. and some other gui programs to change stuff ( yoiu might need to download them seperatly from xfce though )20:46
MahaVishnuerr fluxbox.20:46
brightsparkMahaVishnu, I'm certainly going to try it out, when Maverick reaches end-of-life if not sooner.20:46
brightsparkOh I see.  Thanks20:46
GaRRu!details20:47
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:47
dgsi'm running lucid, and having issues where ubuntu keeps 'correcting' my server time on reboot. (It's a requirement for this server to have the time set 12 hours out from the actual time). I've removed the ntpdate package but it still keeps correcting the time. (Possibly coming from the bios time + timezone or something)20:47
dgsanyone have any idea how I can stop it doing this?20:47
BluesKajKurdistan, there's only one nvidia-current for your card , the other depends on the kernel module that other nvidias might need20:48
Barbariandudedgs, did you set timezone on setup?20:48
oCeanLordveda: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html20:48
Barbariandudedgs, sorry, stupid question now I think of it :P will start digging20:48
llutzdgs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata20:48
t132can someone tell me how to setup  filezilla20:48
KurdistanBluesKaj, jockey installed nvidia legacy driver20:49
KurdistanI needed to change to nvidia current20:49
BluesKajKurdistan, did you choose the recommended driver ?20:49
Kurdistanmy nvidia card :) have some bad moment. damn nvidia developer. lazy people.20:49
KurdistanBluesKaj, yes.20:49
dgsllutz, yup, so that sets it to the correct time (for that timezone). I need it to remain at the *incorrect* time that I've specified20:49
GaRRuI have problems with Wicd, It disconnects from the net after some time with no usage. How can I disable the disconnect feature? im running ubuntu 11.0420:50
GaRRukde20:50
MahaVishnuhaha Kurdistan if you had an ati card it would be even worse.20:50
brightsparkjoshteam, try running "killall gconfd-2" in a terminal to have the daemon respawn20:50
GaRRukubuntu*20:50
llutzdgs: you have to setup the timezone to one corresponding the time you want to have20:50
Kurdistannvidia geforce go 7400 have difficultis to run unity becuase it is blacklisted.20:50
cannonfoddaalt f2 has stopped working. nothing happens 11.10 gnome shell. any ideas?20:50
BluesKajwhich nvidia card , and which driver was installed, Kurdistan?20:50
Barbariandudedgs, can't you just fudge the timezone? Does it need to stay correct?20:50
KurdistanI looked to nvnews they say the upcoming driver will fix.20:50
Jack`i i need some help i am installing ubuntu in expert mode but i need to choose a kernel  now i need to know what is best      linux-generic       linux-image-generic  or linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic20:51
dgsit needs to be Etc/UTC for some software packages to work correctly20:51
dgswhich we're trying to get fixed, but in the interim . . . the 'solution' is to offset the actual time20:51
llutzdgs: some services have own timezone setting (like CRON_TZ)20:52
KurdistanBluesKaj, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=b9baf96c84fafe3ce031f93dbd59578c&t=16011520:52
Kurdistanyou will understand20:52
Jack`hi i need some help i am installing ubuntu in expert mode but i need to choose a kernel  now i need to know what is best      linux-generic       linux-image-generic  or linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic20:52
Barbariandude!patience | Jack`20:52
ubottuJack`: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:52
brightsparkJack`, I'm not sure of the exact difference between the first two, the last one specifies the version, I don't think it will update automatically.20:52
KurdistanBluesKaj, because of that nvidia legacy is recommended from ubuntu. but nvidia legacy kind of suck. :)20:53
Jack`uhu20:53
t132anyone know how to setup file zilla20:53
t132?20:53
Jack`humzzz not done a long time20:53
Barbariandudet132, what's causing you problems in the setup?20:53
dgsllutz, actually, I take that back -  dpkg-reconfigure tzdata didn't change the time - I just hadn't changed it from the last reboot20:53
Jack`so i think i cant help you i have mi own troubles so20:54
Jack`:P20:54
Jack`brightspark i think i whill just go with the first :P20:54
t132no i just installed it,trying to send some files to a friend20:54
Jack`a do you have a acount with thet friend20:54
brightsparkJack`, probably safe.20:54
Jack`:P20:54
zaltekkhey, i just installed 11.10. i installed xorg, i3, and slim. slim comes up at boot. however, when i try to login to i3, i get an error about fglrx not being found. i am using an ati card, but i didn't install catalyst. the radeon xorg driver is loaded with kms. how should I proceed?20:54
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Cybertinusevening20:56
Barbariandudeo/20:56
Jack`damn installer now it asks me if i want to install all  or if i wnat a instalation thet fits but if i choose fit i risk that not all my hardware works20:56
Jack`pfff i asks to much questions20:56
Jack`^^20:56
linuxrealmi am running lasted version of pidgen on gnome desktop as a newly created demo user on my laptop. for some reason, when trying to connect to gmail.com via xxmp, with correct settings, it wont log me in. i think maybe this new user is not perm'd to use pidgen? how to check... thanks20:56
brightsparkJack`, I might recommend not using the expert installer if you don't want it to do that...20:57
Cybertinusfor the people who where helping me earlier tonight with my WLAN problem ( |Anthony| for example): the problem is fixed. For some weird reason WLAN was  disabled in the BIOS. Enabled it there again and now I'm IRCing via WLAN :)20:57
zaltekkanybody? i don't have an xorg.conf, so i don't know why xorg would be trying to load fglrx20:57
zaltekki've never had it installed20:57
|Anthony|Cybertinus, isn't that odd20:58
zaltekki was previously running 10.04.3 with this same setup, and there wasn't an issue.20:58
BluesKajKurdistan, I use a geforce 7600gt , and the required nvidia-current is the 285.05.0920:58
MeQuerSatEnabling the Hotspot feature of NetworkManager renders my system completely unusable. Report this to launchpad?20:58
cannonfoddaalt f2 has stopped working. nothing happens 11.10 gnome shell. any ideas?20:58
Cybertinus|Anthony|, yeah, it is. I haven't been in the bios of my netbook in years. Don't know why it was disabled. But it is enabled now again, and everything works, so problem solved :)20:59
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|Anthony|Cybertinus, is there a cmos battery20:59
MeQuerSatcannonfodda, you can enable it again via keyboard settings20:59
askreetCybertinus, There's probably a hotkey to enable/disable it you may have hit by accident.20:59
|Anthony|+1 askreet21:00
t132i need help,to transfer a file to my other ubuntu system21:00
askreetJust look at my Dell Mini it's Fn+F221:00
|Anthony|usually is a little button or an Fx combination21:00
Cybertinus|Anthony|, don't know. I do know that the main battery was depleted really deaply multiple times21:00
cannonfoddathat worked a treat thanks:)21:00
MeQuerSat:)21:00
Cybertinusaskreet, hmm, fn+f2 it is. It's plausible that I've hit that21:00
alihi21:01
jellowhow can I bring back a program to forground while running with nohup ?21:01
aliwhen im trying to run as root it says the password wrong ,but when i typing sudo ... then it says the same password is ok21:02
aliwhy that?21:02
|Anthony|well, after 4 hours dd if=/dev/urandom of /dev/sda on a 1TB drive has completed 135GB @ 9.2MB/s21:02
zaltekkali: root pw != sudo pw21:02
DaZali: because sudo is not using your root password21:02
DaZuse sudo su21:02
askreett132, There are many ways to do this.  You could set up a shared folder on one system, and retreive the files on the other -- or you could set up an ssh server on the destination and copy the files using scp.  This guide seems to help with the latter: http://vikashazrati.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/quicktip-transferring-files-between-two-ubuntu-systems/21:03
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t132its not on the same network21:03
qwebirc51695hey anyone  able to help me with a bloody wireless issue on ubuntu 11.10?21:03
t132trying to connect to a remote computer21:03
ality~21:03
askreett132, Well, one of them with have to be accessible over the Internet then.21:03
zaltekkstill no ideas about i3 on 11.10 trying to use fglrx when it isn't installed? the display manager works fine.21:03
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askreett132, Otherwise, you can use an intermediate service like Dropbox?21:04
Jack`pff i am almost done with the instaal21:04
alione more little thing, why when im mouse over on the lft side of my screen the menu dont pop up?21:04
Jack`:P21:04
t132they both have internet21:04
|Anthony|zaltekk, sometimes you need to blacklist things21:04
askreetjellow, I don't believe you can bring something back to foreground after a nohup.21:04
Jack`t132  do you have a count his ftp server21:04
dagerikzaltekk: the fglrx gives me horrible performance with an acer with i7 and ati card21:04
zaltekk|Anthony|: like what? i'm using the default open source driver21:04
askreetjellow, You probably want to run things like that inside screen ideally.21:04
ality21:05
zaltekkdagerik: i didn't install or configure fglrx.21:05
urlin2uqwebirc51695, you know the wireless card?21:05
zaltekkdagerik: i only have xserver-xorg-video-ati/radeon installed.21:05
jellowaskreet, I cant I do not own /dev/pts21:05
zaltekkand no xorg.conf21:05
t132i just have access to the computer21:05
dagerikzaltekk: how is that working out for you?21:05
MeQuerSatEnabling the Hotspot feature of NetworkManager renders my system completely unusable. Report this as a bug?21:05
zaltekkdagerik: not at all since X tries to load fglrx somehow.21:05
askreetjellow, I remember you were asking about /dev/pts earlier -- whose system is this?  Have you considered asking them to install and configure screen inside your jail?21:05
zaltekkdagerik: it doesn't make sense because it is a fresh install and the catalyst driver was never installed21:06
|Anthony|i remember a time when i had an nvidia card and an intel integrated chip... the intel had to be blacklisted so i could use the nvidia21:06
askreetMeQuerSat, Sounds like a bug to me, unless the button says "Render system unusable" :)21:06
|Anthony|bbl21:06
zaltekki just installed xorg, slim, and i3. slim displays fine, but when i try to login to i3 slim has an error trying to load fglrx for some unknown reason.21:06
zaltekkcan't find anything about it on google.21:06
jellowaskreet, Its a free bsd shell provider they do not provide support21:06
MeQuerSataskreet, ok, will file it then:)21:07
zaltekkdagerik: any ideas?21:07
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t132i installed filezilla but dont know what info to put in21:08
dagerikzaltekk: I would have answered if I had any ideas.21:08
zaltekk*sigh*21:08
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askreett132, Filezilla is an FTP client, right?  That's only going to help you if you have an FTP server running somewhere to drop the file off to.21:09
askreett132, If neither system is listening for FTP or SSH connections, you probably have to use something like Dropbox.  Is that feasible?21:09
qwebirc49424anyone able to help me with a wireless problem on ubuntu 11.10 ?21:09
t132thats what im trying to do21:09
gnuskoolhallo, just did a fresh server install of ubuntu server, installed webmin, upgraded, but cant login from my other pc, ping and alll else works21:10
askreetI wouldn't set the target system up as an FTP server, if it can helped.  FTP is bad.  You want to set up an SSH server and use something like scp.  You want to install openssh-server on at least one of the systems.  Then you want to ssh from one system to another by using `ssh user@<other host>`.21:11
zaltekkor rather, scp <myfiles> <user>@<host>:<destination>21:11
Kottizengnuskool: 'login', using?21:11
askreetzaltekk,  One step at a time :P21:12
zaltekkKottizen: i'd assume with "webmin"21:12
Kottizenzaltekk: could be SSH too21:12
auronandace!webmin21:12
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.21:12
Kottizengnuskool: is it SSH/PuTTY that you cannot login via, or is it webmin?21:12
gnuskoolaskreet: didnt install ftp, did install openssh, but am loggin in from a win pc21:12
Kottizengnuskool: use WinSCP to transfer files over SSH, not your regular FTP client21:13
askreetgnuskool, I think we've cross the streams, I'm trying to help t132 with a file transfer issue as well :P21:13
gnuskoolaskreet: ping to server is fine, but from the browser, https://xxxxxxxx:10000 has no connection whatsoever21:13
StepNjumpThere is something I really don't understand. If I create a link using nautilus it works but when I bring it on my desktop, it no longer works, why?21:13
Kottizen!webmin | gnuskool21:13
ubottugnuskool: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.21:13
MeQuerSatKottizen, FileZilla can be used perfectly fine to transfer files over SSH21:13
zaltekkgnuskool: netstat -l # to make sure port 10000 is listening21:13
gnuskoolaskreet: my bad21:14
KottizenMeQuerSat: I never said it couldn't21:14
MeQuerSatKottizen, you suggested it though ;)21:14
t132the file im trying to send is 11gb21:14
gnuskoolKottizen: im trying to logi using ff to webmin21:14
The_JagHi all, is there a way to get into ubuntu that new Characters Picker feature of OSX Lion?21:15
th^2how to create files in format that ti 89 accepts?21:15
Kottizengnuskool: you shouldn't be using webmin at all21:15
RokcStaris there a channel for general disussion of ubuntu?21:15
Kottizenth^2: do you know what format they need?21:15
th^2Kottizen, no21:15
zaltekkmy fresh install of 11.10 has xorg, slim, and i3 installed. my video card is an ati radeon hd 2400(r610). i haven't installed the catalyst binary drivers from ati. however, when i login with slim it errors out. slim.log says xorg failed to load fglrx, which is the catalyst binary driver. why is this happening, and how can i fixed it?21:15
zaltekkth^2: check texas instruments' website.21:16
Kottizenth^2: when you do you should be able to just create a blank file and name it <something>.<file format>21:16
askreetzaltekk,  Empty xorg.conf I assume?21:16
zaltekkaskreet: yep.21:16
zaltekkaskreet: rather, no xorg.conf21:16
MeQuerSatRokcStar, #ubuntu-offtopic ?21:16
askreetRight.21:16
zaltekkaskreet: the opensource ati/radeon driver is loaded with kms.21:16
The_JagOr, is there a quick way to access accented chars from withing the pc's keyboard instead that taking them from a char map onscreen?21:17
askreetzaltekk, I really wish I actually had a handy Ubuntu system :(21:17
zaltekki could pastebin logs and such21:17
zaltekkbut there is only the one error, and there are no configuration changes21:18
zaltekkor even any xorg configuration at all.21:18
askreetI'd really just be reminding myself how it determines what driver to load -- something down in /usr/lib/X11 iirc21:18
zaltekkit doesn't make sense to me that slim works but the actual wm does not.21:18
askreetslim is the display manager right?21:18
zaltekkright.21:19
gnuskoolzaltekk: its not even listening21:19
zaltekkgnuskool: okay, then it isn't setup right. or it isn't started. did you try service webmin start?21:19
askreetCan I see that slim log?  I suspect the error about fglrx is not your main problem -- I think Xorg just tries to load drivers that are compatible in order and probably tries fglrx, then radeon21:19
zaltekkaskreet: when i login it reloads slim and the X error appears in /var/log/slim.log21:19
zaltekkaskreet: okay, let me copy it across the network.21:20
askreetzaltekk, Have you tried launching your window manager by hand from .xinitrc?  I haven't used the latest Ubuntu but the old approach would be to init 3, then modify .xinitrc and run "xinit"21:20
zaltekkaskreet: by hand, no. i will in a minute. let me paste the logs first.21:21
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gnuskoolKottizen, what should I be using then? Wierd thing is webmin was working yesterday but this is a practice serverr so I trashed it all and started from scratch21:22
Kottizengnuskool: SSH, preferably21:22
MahaVishnuzaltekk, just blacklist the module you don't want to load......21:23
Kottizengnuskool: do all your administrative tasks through a remote terminal (SSH)21:23
Kottizengnuskool: it's not as easy as webmin, but you'll learn a lot and benefit a lot from it21:23
zaltekkaskreet: /var/log/slim.log: http://codepad.org/K289M2kl :: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://codepad.org/5uFePoCu21:23
iretchi've been tweaking my mouse settings with synclient, how can i go about saving them permanently in xubuntu?21:23
zaltekkMahaVishnu: there isn't a module loading.21:23
MahaVishnuzaltekk, lsmod | grep fglrx21:23
grkbloodFor the last couple of days my video players havent been working properly. When I play a video in say, VLC, the audio plays but the video is a black screen. If I right click in the video player my entire laptop screen starts going crazy and I have to restart gnome. has anyone heard of this>21:23
gnuskoolKottizen: gotcha! thx21:23
Jack`humzz i am installing it again because it failed21:24
askreetzaltekk, Never heard of i3 before, looking interesting.  I wonder if it would compile on RHEL6 (what I use at work) :P  I use dwm now.21:24
Jack`^^21:24
zaltekkMahaVishnu: it isn't loaded. isn't even installed.21:24
MahaVishnuzaltekk, then whats wrong ?21:24
zaltekkMahaVishnu: X tries errors out loading the wm, and that is the only error i can find21:24
zaltekkthere isn't an xorg.conf21:24
zaltekkso nothing should tell it to load the binary driver21:25
rasmusthanybody tried ubuntu on the newest mac mini?21:25
MahaVishnuzaltekk, pastebin it ?21:25
zaltekkMahaVishnu: already did, let me grab the URLs21:25
zaltekkMahaVishnu: /var/log/slim.log: http://codepad.org/K289M2kl :: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://codepad.org/5uFePoCu21:25
askreetzaltekk, I really think the fgl stuff is unrelated, look at Xorg.0.log you can see that it tries to load many drivers (autoconfigured drivers X @ lines 100-104), then configure each of them.21:26
MahaVishnuzaltekk, some times it will make an xorg.new.conf or some crap in your home dir and use that.21:26
zaltekkaskreet: right, but there there are no other errors...21:26
askreetfglrx simply fails because it's not installed, I bet i3 is failing for an entirely different reason.21:26
zaltekkaskreet: i don't see any other errors.21:26
askreetIf you try the .xinitrc/xinit route you may get more output?21:26
zaltekkMahaVishnu: i don't have one.21:26
zaltekkaskreet: about to.21:26
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askreetCould try starting a blank X session (X &) from a terminal, then connecting i3 to it (probably something like DISPLAY=:0 i3) and see what happens.21:27
biagidpwhat user do jobs in /etc/cron.daily/ run as?21:27
askreetAll of this from a real VT (ctrl+alt+f1) into :0 (ctrl+alt+f7, probably).21:27
askreetbiagidp, root21:27
biagidpaskreet: thank you!21:27
askreetbiagidp, specifically the run-parts in /etc/cron.d or /etc/crontab is set to run as root. :P21:28
MahaVishnuzaltekk, first thing is you need the 75dpi and the 100dpi x11 font packages.21:28
niklot_anyone use haskell here in ubuntu?21:28
xperiahi to all. have a small problem. everytime i boot into ubuntu i have only about 480 MB System Ram even my RAM is 4GB big. how can i tell ubuntu to use full RAM availble ? with such low ram ubuntu is heavy slow as allways the swap is used !21:29
zaltekkMahaVishnu: is the xorg metapackage not enough to use xorg?21:29
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askreetxperia, How are you looking at your ram usage?  Can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/meminfo" and "free -m"?21:29
MahaVishnuzaltekk, you need those fonts for alot of stuff and it's complaining about them in your log just get them to be sure.21:29
zaltekkMahaVishnu: will do. having to reboot. service slim stop continually fails. i did kill -s SIGKILL `pgreg slim` and the system deadlocked21:30
askreetzaltekk, Ha!  i3 uses dmenu -- I bet this is a fork of dwm :P21:30
xperiai am using top in terminal modus. the availble system ram is only 480MB and free ram is about 4MB21:30
zaltekkaskreet: it isn't. it is a from scratch project made to be like wmii21:30
askreetzaltekk, Ah, so they just make use of dmenu?  Makes sense.21:31
xperiai have all the time swap work. need really to tell ubuntu to use max availble ram ! can not pastebin the output as it is nearly not possible really to use the ubuntu desktop !21:31
Droydnight21:32
zaltekkaskreet: correct.21:32
OerHeksxperia, specs say you need 1 gb of ram. that could explain your slow system21:32
askreetHe has 4G, that was the original issue :P21:32
askreetshowing as 480M21:33
xperiahow much system ram do you all have when you run the command top into the console21:33
MeQuerSatxperia, top shows the cached RAM usage21:33
zaltekkhah21:33
xperiai guess while i have installed ubuntu i have chosen some wrong setting21:33
MahaVishnufree -m21:33
askreetxperia, They have all their RAM, as you should.  You may want to look at 'dmesg|tail"21:33
zaltekkMahaVishnu: that fixed it. strange that no error was reported.21:33
MeQuerSatxperia, if you have 4MB free thats perfect as it is using as cache21:33
zaltekkjust installed xfonts-[75|100]dpi21:33
MahaVishnuzaltekk, installing the fonts fixed it ?21:33
zaltekkMahaVishnu: yep. thanks!21:33
askreetWow, that was t?21:34
zaltekkaskreet: all better.21:34
askreetit*21:34
MahaVishnuzaltekk, I consider it a bug. that it's not packaged with the xorg like you said.21:34
MeQuerSatxperia, if you do "free -m" you can see what it uses without the cache/buffer21:34
zaltekkMahaVishnu: well, slim worked fine. it's just i3 that needed them.21:34
askreetWell the included DE with Ubuntu has the fonts it needs... it should probably be a requirement of the i3 package.21:34
askreetUnless you installed from source?21:34
zaltekkxorg gave me xfonts-base21:34
xperiaMeQuerSat: but why is then ubuntu such slow. all the time the hard disk is heavy used and swap usage goes up and down !21:34
zaltekkaskreet: nope, i used the i3 metapackaged21:34
boldfilteranyone know any good unity customizations21:34
askreetSo the i3 metapackage should depend 75|100dpi packages.21:34
MeQuerSatxperia, could you give us the output of "free -m" and "top" ?21:35
askreetbug report time! :)21:35
MahaVishnuzaltekk, idk what 'slim' and 'i3' isnt an intel chip obviously ?21:35
xperiait freeze for several seconds even all the time !21:35
MeQuerSatxperia, use something as pastebin.com to upload21:35
askreetMahaVishnu, http://i3wm.org/21:35
askreetPretty neat21:35
askreetI may see if there's a RHEL6 package for it and check it out at work.21:35
zaltekkMahaVishnu: slim is login manager. i3 is a window manager.21:35
zaltekkand i spoke too soon.21:35
zaltekklogging into wm-less X worked21:35
zaltekki3 still fails.21:35
xperiawell okay have to reboot into ubuntu see you in about 10 minutes21:36
boldfilterAny unity themes?21:36
MahaVishnuzaltekk, :F21:36
MahaVishnuzaltekk, how are you trying to start i3 ?21:36
zaltekki'm about to head home from work and i'm going to try the exact same install/setup on my nvidia-based laptop21:36
zaltekkMahaVishnu: logging in from slim.21:36
MahaVishnuwhat is slim lol ?21:37
MeQuerSat<zaltekk> MahaVishnu: slim is login manager. i3 is a window manager.21:37
MeQuerSat...21:37
MahaVishnuah.21:37
MahaVishnumaybe your .desktop file is wrong21:37
atlan80hi there. anybody got the rtl2832u module running with 2.6.32, pae enabled?21:37
zaltekk.desktop?21:37
MahaVishnuhow does slim load sessions ?21:38
zaltekkMahaVishnu: Xsession21:38
MahaVishnuthen maybe the error is in the config.21:38
zaltekkwhat config? =/21:38
askreetzaltekk, /usr/share/X11/Xsessions or similiar should have an i3.desktop file21:38
MahaVishnuyea21:38
atlan80if so, how? I keep gettn' 'disagrees about dvb_usb_device_init' ... :-(21:39
zaltekkwell, i'll mess with it later. i'm out of time21:40
zaltekkthanks for the help21:40
MahaVishnukk21:40
MeQuerSat"well, i'll mess with it later. i'm out of time" <-- so familiar xD21:40
Jack`MahaVishnu  i forgot to install grub bootloader how do i start my ubuntu then from grub shell21:41
Droydmerry christmas for everybody see you soon...kind regard's21:41
MeQuerSatthank you Droyd, same to you :)21:41
atlan80coming back later, must check sthg... see y'all.21:42
Jack`humzz how do i boot linux ubuntu from grub shell21:43
MeQuerSatJack`, that's hard to do21:44
MeQuerSatJack`, you should boot from a live-cd and reinstall grub21:44
rasmusthWhen I pick replace Mac OS X, shouldn't it create stuff so that it can boot on its own?21:44
|Anthony|Jack`, do you boot into a grub shell?21:44
Jack`jup21:45
Jack`i do21:45
|Anthony|or go right into gdm21:45
Jack`grub shell21:45
Jack`so now21:45
|Anthony|from cli should be starx21:45
Jack`huh21:45
josti got the following error when trying to start my upstart job using "start idleShutdown": http://pastebin.com/CFJ1zJ9K whats wrong there?21:45
MeQuerSat|Anthony|, thats wrong21:45
RadarGhas anyone here gotten starcraft 2 to work on ubuntu?21:45
|Anthony|aw21:45
MeQuerSatJack`, boot a live-cd and reinstall grub21:45
Jack`pffff21:45
MeQuerSatIve done it many times, its the only way21:45
xperia_hi to all. i have now booted into ubuntu again. here is what free -m output on my system21:45
xperia_http://pastebin.com/5Y2HUWf721:45
Jack`just tryed that and it whant to reinstall all over eagain21:46
xperia_i have 4GB Ram and ubuntu use only 480MB21:46
rasmusthdoes anybody know?21:46
RadarGis there a way to ditch unity and switch back to gnome or kde?21:46
MeQuerSatxperia_, 32bit or 64bit version?21:46
xperia_64BIT21:46
MeQuerSatRadarG, I use Gnome Shell: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell21:46
MeQuerSatRadarG, for starcraft: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2088221:47
seb__what's the console command to display the desktop in xfce? I want to create a keyboard shortcut and don't know the command. Ty21:47
MeQuerSatxperia_, that's really weird, if you boot the live-cd and do "free -m" do you see 480m too?21:48
Barbariandude!nounity | RadarG21:48
ubottuRadarG: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic21:48
xperia_hooo dont have the cd anymore. upgrade ubuntu now several times21:48
RadarGcool thanks21:48
MeQuerSatxperia_, I would suggest a clean re-install21:48
xperia_there must be some setting for ubuntu that tell him how much ram to use21:48
xperia_ohh noo then i wll totally trash ubuntu21:49
MeQuerSatxperia_, if it shows 480m instead of 4095 there is something really wrong21:49
xperia_it sucks really21:49
seb__it's part of the window manager, ignore my question21:49
xperia_well then never again ubuntu in this case21:49
xperia_thanks for the info21:49
xperia_bye to all21:50
MeQuerSat...21:50
conntrackEvening21:50
lenneth_ /load .xchat2/budus.so21:50
ameuruxhi21:51
lenneth_ping21:53
boldfilterDear ubuntu, unity sucks dick, love you21:54
conntrackhaha21:54
conntrackLove that joker21:54
boldfilterWhat can you say?21:55
boldfilterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BKiC3geDCc21:56
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boldfilterThe guy in this video gets pissed talking about ubuntu21:56
PessimismI installed cree.py on the latest version of Ubuntu, but I can't find out where and how to run it: http://ilektrojohn.github.com/creepy/. I'm sure it's dead simple, but I'm new to Ubuntu.21:57
Guest67273I need to change a shell script which is  /usr/bin/xdg-email  what is the command line to do this sudo something ?21:58
lenneth_watch out your language please, and just change your windws manager or stick to maverick if you dont like.21:59
lenneth_ping test - please ignore it, im checking the weak wireless im attached to.21:59
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mneptokboldfilter: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic21:59
zerobyteGuest67273 can you be more specific ?21:59
Guest67273There is this shell script  /usr/bin/xdg-email  which has a bug in it. If I open it by clicking on it it is read only. I know there is a command line to edit it but dont know the command22:01
genoobiehey all22:02
rasmusthlulz22:02
rasmusthreplaced OSX with ubuntu22:02
rasmusthnow when I turn it on I get white screen22:02
boldfilterbRO, WHY LOL22:02
rasmusthand nothing happens22:02
goddarddoes Unity have a channel?22:03
boldfilterya it's #unity-sucks22:04
mneptokboldfilter: stop.22:04
OerHeksgoddard, you are in it.22:05
genoobiehey I just installed lubuntu a while ago and I love it.  Just today, the wireless crapped out22:05
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genoobieI am a complete newb, so I am not sure how to fix this...22:05
genoobieany tips would be greatly appreciated.22:05
kkerwinHi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?22:06
PessimismIf I install a program with apt-get, where is it supposed to be available in the newest version of Ubuntu?22:06
mneptokgenoobie: did you get a kernel update recently (i did). try booting into an older kernel from the GRUB boot menu.22:06
genoobiehrm22:06
genoobieokay22:06
genoobielet me see what grub says22:06
mneptokPessimism: the binary? config files? libraries? what?22:07
genoobienah, they are both 3.0.0-13-generic22:07
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hacked_kernelhow to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx22:08
PessimismI am trying to find the executable for cree.py: http://ilektrojohn.github.com/creepy/.22:08
genoobiemneptok, so I think the versions are the same22:08
Pessimismsource at https://github.com/ilektrojohn/creepy22:08
kkerwinPessimism: Try "whereis $program_name".22:08
genoobieI would rather fix it than boot windows22:08
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kkerwinPessimism: That's a python file, which is not a binary.22:08
mneptokPessimism: sudo updatedb && locate cree.py22:08
genoobielet me boot windows and see if the wireless works22:08
kkerwinHow did you download it? As a package file from ubuntu, or straight from the website?22:09
genoobiemneptok any other suggestions?22:09
kkerwinHi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?22:09
mneptokgenoobie: if you have not checked to make sure the wireless works at all, no.22:09
genoobieugh, now windows won't boot22:09
fullstopHi all.  Anyone here use a verizon USB551L 4G modem?22:10
Jack`nope22:10
Jack`:P22:10
fullstopI'm trying to figure out which driver will work with it.22:10
Jack`google22:10
kkerwinfullstop: Nope.22:10
Jack`:P22:10
OerHeksJack`, that is not helpfull22:10
fullstopSo far I've built the smusb driver, which reveals several ttyUSBx devices22:10
Jack`nope i now22:10
Jack`:P22:10
fullstopand one of them has an AT interpreter running22:10
LINCE10CIAO22:10
rasmusthyo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?22:10
Pessimismmneptok: Shouldn't I be able to run it with python cree.py?22:10
kkerwinfullstop: You can pick up routers (cradlepoint) that will take a usb air card and give off a wifi signal.22:10
Pessimismnothing happens when I do it22:11
fullstopbut it does not allow the typical ppp connection22:11
LINCE10!LIST22:11
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».22:11
genoobiemneptok, any way to diag that?22:11
mneptokPessimism: python /path/to/where/you/can/find/cree.py22:11
Jack`pff i am reinstalling 3 time22:11
Jack`:P22:11
fullstopkkerwin: I'm aware of that, but I'm trying to use it in linux.22:11
kkerwinPessimism: You have to be in the same directory as cree.py.22:11
PessimismI am - usr/share/creepy22:11
fullstopUbuntu tries to pick it up as cdc_ether22:11
Pessimism(At least I think so)22:11
Pessimismdir shows it22:11
mneptokPessimism: pwd22:11
fullstopSo that exposes an eth2 device, but I can't get any data to flow.22:12
Pessimismpwd -> /usr/share/creepy22:12
kkerwinfullstop: Sorry buddy. Above my paygrade. ;-)22:12
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mneptokPessimism: python ./cree.py22:12
MahaVishnufullstop, is eth2 up ?22:12
fullstopkkerwin: Not a problem.  I was just hoping that somebody here might have tried to use one22:12
rasmusthYo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?22:13
Jack`MahaVishnu22:13
Pessimismmneptok: Same. Nothing happens.22:13
fullstopMahaVishnu: Yes.  Tx counters accumulate but Rx never does22:13
Jack`i am reinstalling22:13
Jack`:P22:13
genoobieugh, this really sucks22:13
kkerwinHi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?22:13
Jack`MahaVishnu : i am reinstalling22:13
PessimismViewing as su fwiw at root@ubuntu:/usr/share/creepy#22:13
mneptokPessimism: then something is wrong with that Python script. it should at least fail with an error.22:13
MahaVishnuJack`, ok ? but I don't believe im familiar with your issue ;-)22:13
fullstopI'm going to add some kprints to the cdc_ether driver and see how that goes.22:14
fullstopthanks22:14
Pessimismyeah. Good it isn't just me.22:14
PessimismThanks22:14
Jack`MahaVishnu lol i whas the one with the failing grub22:14
Jack`MahaVishnu and no i cant use the damn live cd :P22:14
kkerwinPessimism: cree.py is, as I recall, a graphical program. I remember checking it out to teach my grade school kids about internet stalkers.  Anyway, do you notice a graphical window popping up **underneath** your console window?22:14
Matt040804So, I've totally f'ed up the python install on my machine--is there anyway to "reinstall" it22:14
mneptokPessimism: and "i ran some random Python app I found on Sourceforge as the root user" is an insanely bad idea.22:14
Matt040804?22:14
MahaVishnuJack`, why not? and there is liveusb and sry I dont remember.22:15
Matt040804I know it's totally integrated with the OS, so I'm not really sure how to go about fixing it.22:15
Jack`MahaVishnu lol i am using the live cd22:15
rasmusthYo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?22:15
MahaVishnuJack`, wahts wrong with your grub ?22:16
Pessimismkkerwin: It is a graphical program, yes. But nothing happens.22:16
Pessimismmneptok: It's just a mess-around installation, but point well taken.22:16
rasmusthis there a support channel?22:16
Jack`MahaVishnu look in your ruery22:16
Jack`query22:16
Jack`:P22:16
kkerwinPessimism: Got an idea.22:16
kkerwinPessimism: You're running this with sudo, right?22:17
Pessimismindeed22:17
boldfilterAnyone know any ubuntu unity alternatives22:17
Pessimismidiotic mistakes completely within reason22:17
kkerwinPessimism: Try this: DISPLAY=:0 python ./cree.py22:17
kkerwinPessimism: Pardon: DISPLAY=:0 sudo python ./cree.py22:17
Pessimismkkerwin: Nothing happens. By the look of it.22:18
kkerwinPessimism: Try switching the order of display and sudo, ie: sudo DISPLAY=:0 python ./cree.py22:18
Pessimismsame22:18
kkerwinPessimism: Ok. I have another idea. Give me a second to make sure I get the command right ...22:19
compdocjoin #centos22:19
PessimismButters, even if I am not su, I should still be able to access it as 'pessimism' user somehow like any ordinary program without going to usr/share/creepy, right? Considering that I am able to run programs like Chrome, etc.22:19
Pessimismkkerwin: Thanks. Appreciate it.22:19
kkerwinPessimism: Ok. Hit Alt-F2. Type "gksudo". A window should pop up. Type "python /path/to/dir/cree.py".22:20
Pessimismkkwerwin: Nothign seems to have happened22:21
kkerwinPessimism: Ooops. It's Alt-F2. Type "gksudo python /path/to/dir/cree.py". Then type your passwd in the next window.22:21
Matt040804I think I have the wrong version of Python installed--I tried fiddling with it a long time ago and now it's not working correctly, and I don't remember what I changed. Is there any way to get it back to the original state?22:21
Pessimismah22:21
Pessimismsec22:21
rasmusthYo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?22:21
Pessimismsec22:22
Pessimismnow it entered tty222:22
kkerwinPessimism: not sure what you mean there.22:22
Pessimismkkerwin: I am suddenly in a DOS-like interface22:22
Pessimism(?!)22:22
Pessimismso that's a thing22:22
kkerwinPessimism: Oh. You must have hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead of just Alt-F2.22:23
Pessimismah22:23
kkerwinPessimism: Hit Alt-F7 to get back.22:23
Pessimismah, cheers22:23
Pessimismhmm, still nothing with gksudo python22:24
kkerwinPessimism: Ok. Well, I'm spent on ideas, then. Sorry.22:24
PessimismBut I'll live if I can't run the program. I just wondered if I was completely oblivious, or whether something was bugged. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive.) Thanks a bunch, kkwerwin, regardless!22:24
PessimismLearnt a thing or seventeen along the way22:25
kkerwinNo biggie. You're welcome.22:25
kkerwinHi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?22:25
diverdudeI have a .deb package. How do i install that?22:26
MahaVishnu`MArceLL`, diverdude sudo dpkg -i name.deb22:26
kkerwindiverdude: dpkg -i $PACKAGE_NAME.deb.22:26
MahaVishnuhow did that marcell name get in there22:26
diverdudethx22:27
super789hello, i'm trying to connect to the router in Lubuntu, i wirte the key and the it just resquest the key again (like if was wrong) but the key is ok....22:28
kkerwinsuper789: Are you sure that you have selected the right kind of encryption?22:29
kkerwinWEP vs WPA?22:29
kkerwinThere's also a couple of different cyphers in there, etc.22:29
super789kkerwin: it is just automatic.22:29
super789the key haves 10 leters22:30
super789insert the wireless usb stick22:30
super789right click> connect to network22:30
almostrootSo I set up a local repo using apt-mirror, and I'm attempting to net boot and install from it, but I get an error that the installer failed to download a file from the mirror. Is there any way to find out what file?22:31
super789kkerwin: it is WPA/WPA2 PSK22:34
kkerwinsuper789: Most likely. Either that, or it's WEP. You picked it when you setup the router.22:34
kkerwinWPA is FAR FAR FAR better than WEP.22:35
kkerwinsuper789: Oh. That was a statement. Not a question. Disregard my last. ;-)22:35
super789kkerwin: i dont have acess to the router, i only have the password and need to connect my system to it. so i should try to change the settings that lubuntu defined automaticlly??22:35
kkerwinGive it a try. You can always change it back.22:36
super789ok thanks22:36
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diverdudeI try to do sudo apt-get install libzip-dev libzip1 but i get an error. How do i install these packages?22:40
luis_What Error?22:42
goddardOerHeks: well i need some help debugging some issues22:42
diverdudeluis_, You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:22:42
diverdudeThe following packages have unmet dependencies:22:42
diverdude libzip-dev : Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed22:42
diverdudeluis_, and then some more Depends and the Try apt-get -f install22:43
diverdudebut i guess -f is force install right?22:43
diverdudeso that means libzip wont be working because it dont have dependencies?22:43
kkerwinHi. When I start my NFS server, I receive the following error message:22:43
kkerwinexportfs: ***** does not support NFS export". But nothing else. What's going on here?22:43
rj175 Hello,I am having issues booting a LVM root. I moved my root partition (including boot) into a lvm, I have managed to get the system to boot to the xubuntu splash screen but it cannot find my / lvm. Ive changed my fstab to the new one but still nothing22:45
AntonisHello folks. I have installed apache and changed the documentroot from /var/www to /media/Storage/www (Storage is a NTFS partition). When I try to access the website I get a forbidden error.22:45
incorrectin my notification tray there is a battery indicator, does anyone know where it is coming from?22:45
AntonisPermissions seem ok cause ls -al shows my user as owner what could be wrong?22:45
incorrector how i can stop it from being loaded?22:45
diverdudeI try to do sudo apt-get install libzip-dev libzip1 but i get an error. How do i install these packages?22:45
MahaVishnudiverdude, did you try sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev22:46
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diverdudeMahaVishnu, yes...its the same problem22:47
salty!root | Guest5810622:47
ubottuGuest58106: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo22:47
MahaVishnudiverdude, ubuntu 11.10? 32/64bit ?22:47
saltylol22:47
saltynot what i wanted22:47
diverdudeMahaVishnu, 64 bit22:48
diverdudeMahaVishnu, 11.10 yes22:48
MahaVishnudiverdude, I just did a sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev and it worked for me with default sources on 64 /11.10. also I did install the packages you wanted to install first and it did not ask me for that zlib1g at all...22:49
Guest58106Hi22:49
diverdudeMahaVishnu, my main goal is actually to install this: http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads22:49
diverdudeMahaVishnu, how did you install those zlib?22:49
MahaVishnudiverdude, does a sudo apt-get autoclean help ?22:49
MahaVishnudiverdude, via apt-get22:49
diverdudeMahaVishnu, no does not help22:50
diverdudeMahaVishnu, can you install this .deb pack : http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads 64bit 11.10 ?22:50
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habaswho else thinks that ubuntu is getting a bit lame these days?22:54
joshteamWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running22:54
joshteamkernel?22:54
joshteamfor ubutnu 11.1022:54
joshteamUbuntu*22:54
MahaVishnudiverdude, it wants alot of dependencies to be installed first.22:55
truefxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:22:55
truefx  lazarus: Depends: lazarus-ide (>= 0.9.28.2-8ubuntu1)22:55
truefxE: Broken packages22:55
truefxi cant install lazarus on ubuntu 10.04 any idea ?22:55
truefxi have above error message . im newbei in linux22:55
MahaVishnudiverdude, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search zlib1g-dev22:56
ButtersPessimism: what are you talking about? I guess from the sounds of it.22:56
diverdudeMahaVishnu, crap i think i f..... up my packagemanager22:57
MahaVishnudiverdude, how so ?22:57
diverdudeMahaVishnu, i get error nomatter what i try to install22:57
MahaVishnudiverdude, what error?22:57
diverdudeMahaVishnu, always some dependence error22:57
dagerikMy screen goes black as in a black screensaver after about 10 min. Cannot find any settin to turn it off. I am using 11.10, Gnome.22:57
diverdudeMahaVishnu, look here_: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/64833945422:58
helix_9Good Afternoon, Can you give me a tip how i can put the stream i get with VideoCapture back in a virtual video1 device?22:58
MahaVishnudiverdude, sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get autoclean22:58
MahaVishnudiverdude, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list23:00
diverdudeMahaVishnu, phew...youre a hero...that seemed to fix it23:00
jwangis there a way to get gnome-terminal to work after upgrading to 11.10? I have the GConf error which seems to be fairly common now23:01
hacked_kernelhow to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx23:01
freaky[t]hi all i have a problem installing the ati drivers from the ati website in ubuntu 11.10. after doing aticonfig --initial it says:  Unable to find any supported Screen sections can anybody help me please?23:01
MahaVishnuhacked_kernel, look through aplay -L23:01
calwighi where can I ask about formatting a document on WORD?23:01
calwigI thought about here: so, here is what I would like to do:23:02
hacked_kernelMahaVishnu, its name is "default"  , i need a device name to capture from it programatically23:02
calwigI have a 150 page Text. Single Row. What Id like is to do a Double Row. How can I add this, when the document has already been formatted?23:02
MahaVishnuhacked_kernel, you using pulse audio? and what are you trying to do exactly ?23:03
diverdudehow do i see what files a package installed23:03
diverdude?23:03
MahaVishnudiverdude, sudo dpkg -L package23:03
saltyubuntu doesn't come with Word, so I wouldn't know23:03
hacked_kernelMahaVishnu, I wanna capture audio for speech recognition ,  I have Ubuntu 11.10 so yes Pulse23:03
SunTsucalwig: don't you think that _word_ is a little bit off in this channel?23:04
goddardalright so I installed the lastest Nvidia drivers and my window movement is still laggy under ubuntu23:04
goddardim using the 460M which is a great card and should have no problem23:04
MahaVishnuhacked_kernel, I know how to set up recording, but not exactly how to find a /dev/device for it...23:04
goddardhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display23:04
MahaVishnuhacked_kernel, if you install pavucontrol you can setup your line-in settings etc.23:05
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lsvIs there any way to compile a *.cpp file in linux, but that the executable works on windows?23:11
arcskywith new ubuntu server i get some pc info when i login with ssh. howw can i get that to ubuntu desktop?23:12
lsvarcsky: I don't know but maybe it is the motd file?23:13
SunTsulsv: you can do cross compiling, and there's howtos for it, but that's hardly ubuntu specific23:13
lsvSunTsu: does g++ have a flag for that?23:14
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Kirschhey - i just wanted to get some sort of consensus - what DLNA service do most people use in here? i'm currently using mediatomb but it seems that "Indexing" support with that and my google tv dont work, i just got serviio started but it doesn't seem to support the console mode without x so i figured i'd come and ask anyone here.23:15
siricdoes someone has a script which can search a term on google and return the number of results?23:15
SunTsuarcsky: could be dynamic motd generation triggered by pam_motd.so23:15
MahaVishnuKirsch, idk about googletv but ps3 media server is dlna and works very good with xbox360 / ps323:15
MahaVishnuit does support some other devices though check the website23:15
dagerikLol, how hard can it be to disable the fucking black screen I get after about 10 min. I have searched through all of the settings in Gnome 3, 11.1023:16
KirschMahaVishnu: ya and it works very well with my PS3 as of now and i didn't change any config with Mediatomb but GoogleTV threw an error (it's actually Logitech's Media Center app, it DOES play through their app I just have to browse through all the files, it could support global serach)23:16
wh1zz0YeeeeaaaaS!!!!! Finally got DW CS5 working 100% on oneiric23:16
Escherialhey, why are all the backgrounds on eclipse tooltips black after upgrading to 11.10?23:17
wh1zz0I'm so dumping VM23:17
forceflowEscherial: are you sure you're running eclipse with Sun's Java23:17
Escherialer, or more helpfully, how would i go about changing them? :)23:17
forceflowand nog GCJ (open source java)23:17
forceflowsorry, GJC I think that is23:17
Kirschi guess i should be asking if anyone else in here uses a media center and does NOT use mediatomb and how they like it?23:18
forceflowEscherial: check set-alternatives java23:18
saltydagerik, try 'xset s off'23:18
Escherialforceflow: you're right, i'm using openjdk23:18
SunTsuarcsky: http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/ has it covered quite well, although the author doesn't seem to be fond of it too much23:18
forceflowEscherial: you better change to SUN jdk if you want eclipse to display properly, I'm afraid23:19
forceflowI think that's the problem23:19
MahaVishnudagerik, remove option DPMS from /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you are talking about 'screen blanking'23:19
Escherialstrange that this should've changed between 11.04 and 11.1023:19
forceflowEscherial: eclipse updated too ...23:19
Matt040804If I were to completely reinstall ubuntu, would there be any conflicts from copying my home directory over the new one?23:19
forceflowEscherial: other thing to try: switch to non-accelerated desktop (ubuntu 2D, or simple, or whatever it's called nowadays :) )23:19
Escherialthe tooltips display properly, just with a black background; is there perhaps a way to change the system-wide tooltip background color?23:19
LeCurieuxhi to all23:20
saltyor 'xset -dpms'23:20
LeCurieuxi'm new on xubuntu23:20
MahaVishnusalty, that won't be permanent23:20
saltyi know but i don't use 11.1023:20
LeCurieuxif someone can help a frenchy !!!23:20
MahaVishnuwhats that mean?23:20
MahaVishnu!fr23:21
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.23:21
Escherialforceflow: actually, argh, just changing the theme from "radiance" to something else improved the situation dramatically (light-blue background instead of black)23:21
LeCurieuxit's about alsa and multiple usb sound cards23:21
wh1zz0Damn!.. So happy23:21
Escheriali may change over to sun's jvm if i encounter problems, but it seems like openjdk is working well enough for now23:21
lsvMatt040804: I think a clean install would erase everything you have on the hard drive.23:21
Matt040804lsv: yeah, but if I copy it to a USB drive first?23:22
forceflowEscherial: strange ... well, glad it helped23:22
forceflowEscherial: are you running eclipse from the repos or the latest version from site?23:22
Matt040804lsv: I badly messed up my python install and can't figure out how to fix it so I'm planning on doing a reinstall23:22
Escherialfrom the repos, i believe23:22
zerobytesomeone knows how to create a GROUP directives for my NFS shares?23:22
forceflowMight be interesting to download the latest version (it's just unzipping to a folder and running it) to check23:22
LeCurieuxi try to make a 8 tracks studio with 4 usb cards23:22
lsvMatt040804: why not just uninstall python then install it again?23:23
forceflowAs long as you select a different workspace folder, it won't interfere with the other eclipse(s) you have running :)23:23
LeCurieuxIf someone can help me ?23:23
Matt040804lsv: I did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall python"23:23
Matt040804lsv: but it doesn't fix the problem. I think it stems from several versions ago when I tried installing python 2.7 alongside 2.623:23
lsvMatt040804: maybe 'sudo apt-get purge python'?23:24
Escherialforceflow: interesting idea, i'll try it when i get a moment :) thanks for the help, by the way23:25
lsvMatt040804: the man page says that it will remove configuration files...  maybe that would fix it?23:25
Matt040804lsv: I'm giving it a try, it just vomited tons of info to my terminal23:25
Matt040804lsv: looks like it's going to mess with about half the packages on my system23:26
forceflowEscherial: no problem23:26
lsvMatt040804: then you better not mess with it.23:26
Matt040804lsv: Last ditch effort. I'm going to reinstall anyway at this point, unless something fixes my problem23:26
lsvMatt040804: I don't know that much and I would feel bad if I ruin your computer.23:27
Matt040804lsv: Someone in the python channel recommended something similar, so don't feel too bad23:27
Matt040804lsv: I'm sure nothing will happen to the hardware, and that's what matters23:27
MahaVishnupython is like required for ubuntu now then I guess Matt04080423:28
pfewguys I have a problem23:28
Matt040804MahaVishnu: I know, that's probably why it's so hard to fix23:28
lsvMatt040804: oh ok :)23:28
MahaVishnuMatt040804, yea Idk either ;\23:28
pfewI set bios settings to default and it has damaged ubuntu O think23:28
pfewI23:28
MahaVishnupfew, whats wrong exactly?23:29
pfewInstead of starting up it says busybox23:29
pfewmulti-cell binary23:29
pfewAnd it asks for commands or something23:29
pfewIt wont boot into linux23:29
MahaVishnugotta go fix my bathroom tile someone will help you.23:29
pfewok23:30
kkerwinHi. When I start my NFS server, I receive the following error message: "exportfs: *** does not support export". Any idea why this is, and what I can do to fix it?23:30
saltypfew setting bios won't damage the harddrive... but it might not be booting from the harddrive... go back into bios and set boot lineup to your harddrive23:31
pfewit is23:32
arcskyif i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd23:32
pfewI even selected it from grub23:32
saltyhmmmm....23:32
* salty is thinking23:32
slugzzzHey all. So, it seems that after the newest updates in 11.10, my m15x begins to have issues with logging out unexpectedly, especially when browsing the internet.23:33
shade34321I was wondering if you anyboby could tell me what this command does, was asked about it today. cat temp >> more23:33
SunTsushade34321: man cat - >> is redirection of standard outout into a file, which is not removed but appended to23:34
somsipshade34321: it adds the content of the file "temp" to the end of the file "more"23:35
slugzzzActually, the same logout issue seems to be happening in 10.04 when the latest updates are installed, as well.23:35
shade34321so it essentially does the same thing as cat temp > more23:36
arcskynone know?23:36
shade34321or is it different?23:36
SunTsushade34321: no, > creates a new file, >> appends23:36
shade34321gotcha23:36
shade34321so if i do cat temp > more it own't create the file but >> will and append it23:36
arcskyif i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd23:36
SunTsushade34321: with > you'd kill whatever is in the target file, with >> you don't but append to that file23:37
shade34321ok...thanks:)23:37
TACPILOTwhat package is the equivalent of rhel's filesystem package ?23:38
pfewsalty: you there?23:38
shade34321apt?23:38
TACPILOTcontains the basic directory layout for a Linux operating system, including the correct permissions for the directories.?23:38
saltypfew , http://askubuntu.com/questions/44286/busybox-error-on-boottry this23:39
saltypfew , http://askubuntu.com/questions/44286/busybox-error-on-boot try this23:39
saltybrb... need food23:41
pfewsalty food?23:41
SunTsuTACPILOT: that'd be base-files I guess23:41
pfewquestion.... can you have wine programs run at startup of ubuntu?23:42
SunTsupfew: sure23:43
shade34321last question...what does cat temp | more do?23:43
TACPILOTtnx .. I will take a look23:43
lsvshade34321: show the content of temp one screen at a time23:43
SunTsushade34321: | pipes standard output of the first program into standard input of the second program. But that's all basics, not ubuntu support23:43
progre55hi guys. how do you disable samba (smbd) so that it doesnt autostart?23:44
lsvshade34321: If you want to learn more about bash there is a channel just for that #bash23:44
shade34321just wanted to make sure23:44
shade34321they were interview questions...so i figured id ask online..and the >> i couldn't find on google...thanks for the help23:45
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SunTsuprogre55: man update-rc.d23:46
progre55SunTsu: well I tried "sudo update-rc.d smbd disable" didnt help23:46
progre55smbd lives in /etc/init/ not /etc/init.d/23:47
SunTsuprogre55: Never used samba on ubuntu, but maybe there's more than one rc script for it, at least there's many, many serv ices23:47
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SunTsusmbd, nmbd, winbindd and so on23:47
progre55well I guess I'll just rename the /etc/init/smbd.conf file to smth else, so that it doesnt end with .conf23:48
progre55but I'd like to have the option to start it when I need, without having to rename it, etc.. just not on autostart23:48
SunTsuprogre55: maybe there's a meta script called samba, too23:49
arcskyif i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd23:49
trismprogre55: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/smbd.override;23:49
progre55SunTsu: nope, the default conf is in /etc/default/samba23:49
trismprogre55: if this is 11.04+23:49
progre55trism: 11.1023:50
progre55thanks, let me have a look at it23:50
slugzzzSo... question, all... what would you recommend for ubuntu as a "backup tool" that takes "snapshots" of your current machine state so that you can revert to it later.23:50
slugzzzSort of like Apple's "time machine"?23:50
progre55trism: awesome, appreciate!23:50
SunTsuslugzzz: using a file system that supports snapshots, like btrfs23:51
slugzzzHow about "flyback" anyone used it?23:51
chz|baconprogre55: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/pam_motd.html23:52
chz|baconlooks cool too23:52
progre55chz|bacon: weather-util? what's that?23:52
chz|bacondisplays the local weather when you login via ssh23:53
progre55and I need it because..?23:54
progre55chz|bacon: well thanks anyways =) I'll keep it in mind23:54
chz|baconbut in essence you could use it to display other information23:54
SunTsuchz|bacon: maybe you were trying to talk to arcsky?23:54
chz|bacondoh yeah sorry shiz23:55
progre55I was asking about samba autostarting, but thanks =)23:55
* chz|bacon slaps himself23:55
progre55happens :)23:55
chz|baconlines23:55
chz|bacontext spewing, reading, researching my own problem... blah23:55
* chz|bacon offers free beers to all for their understanding :P23:56
* progre55 gets one23:56
SunTsuchz|bacon: btw. I already put arcsky on track of pam_motd.so23:57
genjixok guys, i was defending Unity before because i assumed that Canonical knows what it's doing more than us hackers. but after trying it with my friend who is a new linux user since yesterday and my mum: i hate it, the entire geek community hates it, my mum hates it, my friend hates it.23:57
genjixunity is a failed experiment.23:58
genjixlinux mint has overtaken ubuntu on distrowatch23:58
chz|baconahh so you don't want samba to autostart progre55 ?23:58
genjixunity == shit23:58
m4vgenjix: try gnome shell.23:58
genjixi was supportive before.23:58
chz|baconSunTsu: +1 you're a winner :)23:58
piloufgenjix: +123:58
progre55chz|bacon: no, the other way around =) and trism already helped me out :)23:58
genjixbut after testing with people, i cannot ignore the results23:58
progre55chz|bacon: thanks23:59
m4vgenjix: and get a grip, this channel isn't for complain about it.23:59
genjixfree advice23:59
genjixa complaint would be blaa blaa i didn't get my money's worth23:59
SunTsuI only knew of it because of http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/ - which is equally funny and true23:59
genjixi am switching to linux mint or arch in the future.23:59

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