[00:00] <apwbdjp> _cb, in case you wanna invoke it by its name (from terminal, for example), it's palimpsest
[00:00] <Ibyss> kn_: Ubuntu 10.04 is the new LTS.
[00:00] <Relondo> So I guess nobody else has any ideas?
[00:01] <qmanjr5> How do I add items to the sidebar in Unity?
[00:01] <Relondo> Would it help for me to give any more information?
[00:01] <_cb> I was used to the old way administration... want to give Unity an honest try but sure miss a lot of things from the old UI
[00:01] <kn_> shit... where van i find older inst. for chrome?
[00:01] <pangolin> !language
[00:01] <kn_> sorry...
[00:02] <Gaming4JC> Is there anyway of downgrading my Ubuntu version to an LTS release?
[00:02] <inertial> thanks trism
[00:02] <SharpieMarker> no need to downgrade.. wait a couple months and you can upgrade to a LTS
[00:03] <murfie> Gaming4JC: pinning
[00:03] <Relondo> kn: this may be helpful http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2010/02/08/1755867.aspx
[00:03] <Ibyss> kn_: You can also just download a compressed version of chrome and make install it that way...
[00:04] <Gaming4JC> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_12.04_Precise_Pangolin :)
[00:05] <happyface> bah, my battery life is 2:30 with bumblebee vs. 7 hours in windows
[00:05] <Relondo> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 11.10. I have tried with Wubi and by booting from a flash drive on 64-Bit, and I've tried booting from a flash drive with 32-Bit. The problem I'm having is that I can boot to Ubuntu, but once I do, there's no video. I have audio, but nothing shows up. I have also tried booting the 32-Bit version from a flash drive on another computer, but that computer doesn't seem able to boot from USB, so I don't 
[00:05] <Relondo> And I've tried booting 64-Bit from a CD.
[00:05] <godofmischief> Ive gone and killed yet another ubuntu install,  last  night my xserver became unstable couldn't keep it from kicking me out to the login screeen, just a bit ago it asked to do some updates  i allowed it, now it won't boot.
[00:06] <qmanjr5> How do I add items to the sidebar in Unity?
[00:06] <apwbdjp> Relondo, and none of the above was able to display anything?
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: If it's Oneric Ocelot I've broken it a dozen times just but letting it stay on by itself. ;P
[00:06] <kn_> Ibyss: Big beer for you when you will be in poland someday:) Thank gods for comunity:)
[00:06] <Relondo> None. I hear Ubuntu startup sounds and I can change the volume (playing the volume tones).
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> mysql likes to die on it randomly.
[00:06] <Ibyss> Python3 is ubuntu's default now? o_O Or is it just python 2 and 3 installed.
[00:06] <Canadian1296> Disable internet (perminently) on Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:07] <Ibyss> kn_: Did you found what you wanted?
[00:07] <kn_> jup
[00:07] <kn_> your idea worked:)
[00:07] <Relondo> I used Unetbootin to make my bootable flash drive, by the way.
[00:07] <Datsun> Have just spent HOURS trying to debug Apache.  Finally cleared by Firefox cache and that fixed it.  Is this common?
[00:07] <Gaming4JC> Canadian1296: You could apt-get remove a bunch of core components. Like DNS, BIND, and others sure to break internet :P
[00:07] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC:  what's the best course of action from this point since it will no longer boot, reinstall again or try to recover it, there's no data loss going to occur, im so good at breaking it, that i dont' leave anything senseitive on there for very long.
[00:08] <apwbdjp> Relondo, at what moment does the screen go black? Immediately after grub? After the splash screen?
[00:08] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: love it when it works but jeez i tend to break it a lot lol.
[00:08] <Canadian1296> Gaming4JC: I'm just making a livecd and its important it cannot connect to the internet. So is there way besides "breaking" it?
[00:08] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: What broke exactly? Maybe we can start flooding launchpad with bug reports.
[00:08] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: so frustrating
[00:08] <yamahaalex37> ubuntu finished, grub loaded, not I have black screen with blinking space....
[00:09] <Ibyss> kn_: Iced tea would do, thanks for the offer anyway. :3
[00:09] <murfie> a blinking space woahah
[00:09] <Relondo> No, I don't get any visuals at all. What happens is (if booting from flash drive) I go to the boot menu, and select my flash drive. The Unetbootin menu pops up, and I select Try Ubuntu without installing
[00:09] <apwbdjp> brb
[00:09] <Gaming4JC> Canadian1296: So you want the services to still be there, just not use them?
[00:09] <Gaming4JC> Canadian1296: You can make a new user and limit him see - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1495310
[00:10] <transx3> I only get sound out of one speaker... whats up with that? drivers
[00:10] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: it aborts the boot splash then goes to posting. hangs up after some pulse audio, i can press ctl alt delete and it receives the shutdown signal but won't fully boot
[00:10] <Canadian1296> Gaming4JC: No, id like to remove them. I know how, i just dont know what to remove. And the livecd user will be running as root, so that doesnt work
[00:10] <Relondo> And if I go to the normal boot from Hard Drive, then select my Wubi Ubuntu installation. After both of these things, there is a short flash of some horizontal white lines, and then nothing.
[00:10] <kashyap1> package linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r7: task do_configure: failed
[00:10] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: virtual terminals work? F1 through F11
[00:10] <transx3> ?
[00:10] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: no obviously errors at the last line it posts like its waiting, but it doesnt' seem to ever get over whatever its waiting on
[00:10] <yamahaalex37> ubuntu finished, grub loaded, not I have black screen with blinking space....
[00:11] <murfie> so you not have black screen, eh
[00:11] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: i beleive so, i can reach cli that way
[00:11] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: Yes, if you get CLI working you can try to pkill xserver and startx again, see what's hanging
[00:12] <Relondo> apwbdjp Would it help to have my specs? Current OS?
[00:12] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: what's pkill do differently then just kill, ive used kill PID after doing ps -A
[00:12] <Relondo> apwbdjp: Would it help to have my specs? Current OS?
[00:12] <transx3> Sooo, do you guys not know?
[00:12] <yamahaalex37> initctl: Event failed
[00:12] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: pkill doesn't need PID.
[00:13] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: it just randomly looks for process with that name and kills it. PID is probably better way of doing it actually :P
[00:13] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: so you can just kill lightdm ?
[00:13] <Gaming4JC> sure
[00:13] <transx3> h
[00:13] <ImTheDude> hello
[00:13] <Gaming4JC> !welcome | ImTheDude
[00:13] <Canadian1296> Gaming4JC: No, id like to remove them. I know how, i just dont know what to remove. And the livecd user will be running as root, so that doesnt work
[00:14] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC:  lol i see thanks i may try that in a bit, gotta reboot its on this machine.  Dual boot with win7 ult 64 bit.
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> !hi | ImTheDude
[00:14] <transx3> Type rm -R in the terminal
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> heh Ubottu isn't friendly anymore :(
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: cool, I dualboot too :)
[00:14] <transx3> Type rm -R  !!!
[00:15] <kashyap1> package linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r7: task do_configure: failed
[00:15] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: got no choice i break ubuntu so often, running a ubuntu vm at the moment.
[00:15] <Gaming4JC> Canadian1296: Yeah I'm not expert on that, might want to try #ubuntu-server and ask what services they are
[00:15] <ImTheDude> have a question why does the dictionary not responding ? its from the add panel
[00:15] <apwbdjp> Relondo, I'm not so good with hardware and driver issues, but someone else might help, so yeah it's always good to give this kind of details
[00:15] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Do you run your dualboot with Wubi and Windows?
[00:15] <OerHeks> dont do that transx3
[00:15] <transx3> You guys sgould!
[00:15] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: no I partitioned my hard drive and just dual boot with grub
[00:15] <transx3> 8should
[00:15] <Relondo> apwbdjp: I'm running Windows 7.
[00:16] <transx3> I'm not a dumb ass I know what it means, I just want help with my damn sound!!!
[00:16] <godofmischief> Relondo: i ran a dual boot setup like that for a while, considering that wubi creates a virtual drive, i didn't find it as fast as straight to the HD, tho it does allow you to use the windows boot manager.
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> transx3: not a good idea for anything "rm" which means remove and -R is recursively as I recollect :P
[00:16] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Ah. When you downloaded your ISO from the website, did it come with the Wubi.exe in it already?
[00:16] <Canadian1296> Gaming4JC: Okay thanks
[00:16] <transx3> Yeah, I know this, its computer suicide
[00:17] <Relondo> godofmischief: So do you run it partitioned now? And what is this "grub" that you guys are talking about?
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: Yeah I think so, I just never tried it. Used to the old fashioned way. :)
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: grub is a boot loader... see also...
[00:17] <Gaming4JC> !grub | Relondo
[00:17] <apwbdjp> Relondo, GRUB is the GRand Unified Bootloader, it's what most Linux distros use to boot
[00:18] <murfie> and way bloated
[00:18] <Relondo> So it's not something else that I should have been installing?
[00:18] <transx3> if ubuntu wont boot, its probably the bootloader...
[00:18] <godofmischief> Relondo: grub is the linux boot manager.  YesI created an actual partition for it and did a side by side install. which the ubuntu image if you boot via usb or disk wll walk u through
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> murfie: you prefer LILO? :P
[00:18] <Datsun> Why would Apache be able to see all my directories EXCEPT for the public one?
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: If you used Wubi you don't need it afaik.
[00:18] <Relondo> As in, it comes with Ubuntu?
[00:18] <murfie> I still have nightmares from LILO... stopping at stages like LI- or so :(
[00:19] <apwbdjp> Relondo, no, when you do a full Linux install (with partitioning and all that), the installer will setup grub
[00:19] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: Yes it comes with it if you install it from the CD with nothing else  e.g.... boot computer with Ubuntu in your drive
[00:19] <Relondo> My ultimate goal here is to actually have Ubuntu installed on a separate partition; however, I was waiting to get some software to backup a complete image of my HD, in case something goes horribly wrong.
[00:20] <pokpong> hi guys
[00:20] <Relondo> So I have just been trying out Wubi and InLive.
[00:20] <Relondo> And that software is here now! Wonderful.
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: CloneZilla always good to have a backup - and yeah the full dual-boot is pretty simple now with graphical partitioner. Used Gparted during installation now. :)
[00:20] <pokpong> not sure if I created that file by mistake but I just realised that I have a file named "~" in my home dir
[00:20] <cheshire_fox> Well, I uninstalled the STA driver, then reinstalled the b43 driver.  Now I can see access points, but I'm back at square one
[00:21] <cheshire_fox> I can't get onto/into the access points
[00:21] <Relondo> So none of you have ever even heard of my problem before?
[00:21] <transx3> Sound help anyone?
[00:21] <ImTheDude> does anyone know why dictionary will not work ?
[00:21] <ImTheDude> its a tab from add panel
[00:22] <godofmischief> Gaming4JC: i find the paritioning during the install to be a bit quirky, sometimes gives different options then others for some reason, make a gparted live usb stick i find that's the most straight forward and simple way to do partitioning on the HD.
[00:22] <fizyplankton> Relondo: yamahaalex37 i have nommed to my hearts content. whatd i miss?
[00:22] <apwbdjp> Relondo, I really find it weird.. tell me, once you hear the startup sound from Ubuntu, have you tried doing Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[00:22] <yamahaalex37> frustration
[00:22] <cheshire_fox> Does anyone have any idea as to what I can do to get wireless working again?
[00:22] <Gaming4JC> pokpong: did you check to see what's in it? could be cache or a reference to your home directory. Try "file ~" from terminal or open it with gedit.
[00:22] <Relondo> What is Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[00:22] <Gaming4JC> pokpong: see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_%28command%29 :)
[00:22] <fizyplankton> Relondo: pulls up a virtual terminal
[00:23] <Relondo> Oh. No. But I have tried toggling the monitor on and off, as well as changing the brightness.
[00:23] <Gaming4JC> godofmischief: yeah gparted directly is nice
[00:23] <apwbdjp> Relondo, it's a way to switch from the grahical interface into a text-only terminal / console.
[00:23] <godofmischief> ctl alt f7 or f8 should return you to your xserver session
[00:23] <Relondo> Ah.
[00:24] <pokpong> Gaming4JC, it contains:  "Netrw Directory Listing                                        (netrw v141)"  followed by a listing
[00:24] <Relondo> fizyplankton: My problem is way up in the logs, if you would simply scroll :)
[00:24] <Relondo> (That was not meant to be instulting.)
[00:24] <Relondo> *insulting
[00:24] <Gaming4JC> pokpong: sounds like something from vim editor... perhaps you installed it?
[00:25] <transx3> sound
[00:25] <transx3> sound
[00:25] <transx3> sound
[00:25] <FloodBot1> transx3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <ImTheDude> can anyone help me?
[00:25] <apwbdjp> !help | ImTheDude
[00:25] <yva> quick technical advice, has somebody already used couchdb?
[00:26] <transx3> Well then help, what is this channel for if not for help...
[00:26] <pangolin> !attitude | transx3
[00:26] <Relondo> apwdbjp: Once I have pulled up ctrl+alt+F1, what should I do?
[00:26] <jasmin> hii friend
[00:26] <pokpong> Gaming4JC, yes im using vim...i was a little worried about who could have created that file
[00:26] <DarkStar1> does 11.10 come with a mysql server?
[00:26] <transx3> yeah, i know that, but ignoring isnt very nice now, is it?
[00:26] <Gaming4JC> transx3: just sudo apt-get purge pulse-audio and sudo apt-get install pulse-audio? xD
[00:27] <somsip> DarkStar1: no it has to be installed
[00:27] <jasmin> [root@localhost jperf2.0.0]# ./jperf.sh
[00:27] <jasmin> bash: ./jperf.sh: Permission denied
[00:27] <pangolin> transx3: you expect 1500 users to tell you, no we don't know
[00:27] <transx3> Yeah, im not stupid, I know my terminal
[00:27] <DarkStar1> somsip: ok. I banjaxed the damn setup then
[00:27] <ImTheDude> i would like to know if anyone has had problems with dictionary?
[00:27] <jasmin> i m not able to fix it becu i m new at linux
[00:27] <Gaming4JC> pokpong: probably just a temp file that was created then. You can also check the modification date and see if it's anything unusual. If it's just text it's probably not very threatening :)
[00:27] <pokpong> Gaming4JC, and also woried that i deleted that file already on my other desktop
[00:27] <jasmin> anyone help me
[00:27] <Relondo> ImTheDude: Could you be more specific?
[00:28] <pokpong> Gaming4JC, thanks!
[00:28] <daviddoria> is there a gcc-4.3 package for 11.10?
[00:28] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: try "sh jperf.sh" you're trying to run a bash script. Just make sure you know what's in it before running whatever it is. ;)
[00:28] <ImTheDude> i type a word in the dictionary that i got from add panel and it says nothing or error.
[00:28] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Will the grub help me partition my HD, or do I need to do that on my own first?
[00:29] <fizyplankton> Relondo: so basically, you boot the installer, and nothing happens visually?
[00:29] <somsip> daviddoria: doesn't look like it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gobjc-4.3
[00:29] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, Jperf is a graphical frontend for Iperf written in Java
[00:29] <somsip> daviddoria: gah - wrong link
[00:29] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, he boots a live session, he can hear the ubuntu login music, but sees nothing
[00:29] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Yes. But I believe Ubuntu iteslf is actually booting.
[00:29] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: Grub only allows you too choose operating systems - so you'd need to partition it first. Then grub just makes a little menu
[00:29] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: i had the exact same problem with my laptop and 10.04
[00:29] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, same for a grub session
[00:30] <Relondo> fizyplaknton: I have also used Wubi, with the same resulsts.
[00:30] <somsip> daviddoria: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/devel/
[00:30] <godofmischief> ImTheDude: are you sure you have dictonaries loaded? you may have installed a dicontary app but depending on your purposees it might not have a  default dictionary or library, check to see if there are ones availible for it.
[00:30] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: should be ok then, you may also need to run it with "sudo sh blah.sh" depending
[00:30] <apwbdjp> a wubi session*, fizyplankton, really sorry.
[00:30] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: just keep in mind any command with "sudo" is running as root, so use with caution.
[00:30] <Gaming4JC> :)
[00:30] <ImTheDude> where?
[00:30] <daviddoria> somsip, is there no "deprecated" repository or something where I can use one from an older version?
[00:30] <godofmischief> ImTheDude: the site for the app whatever its name is.
[00:30] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, thanks a lots
[00:30] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: np :)
[00:30] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, i got it
[00:30] <fizyplankton> Relondo: i had that same issue on my laptop. all i did is just try it again and again. the display drivers constantly crapped out at random points, all you can do is try it till it works
[00:30] <Relondo> gaming4JC: Thanks.
[00:31] <fizyplankton> Relondo: is it laptop or desktop?
[00:31] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I am also using a laptop.
[00:31] <somsip> daviddoria: that page is probably the best jumping off point, but I don't believe that deprecated packages are ported to new version. It doesn't really make sense
[00:31] <fizyplankton> Relondo: try plugging it into an external display
[00:31] <transx3> @pangolin, no i dont expect 1500 user to tell me but i do expect some suggestions or at least the acknowledgment of my question.
[00:31] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I believe it's an L775-D.
[00:31] <fizyplankton> Relondo: what lappy model?
[00:31] <Euvius> aaahhhh,, I cant log in to my Ubuntu anymore.  it hanges
[00:31] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Toshiba.
[00:31] <Euvius> what do I do
[00:31] <fizyplankton> is l775-d the model?
[00:31] <Euvius> Im on a USB stick
[00:32] <Euvius> it just stopped working for no reason whatsoever
[00:32] <pangolin> transx3: you expect too much. try asking a detailed question, explain the problem clearly...
[00:32] <ikonia> Euvius: try logging in using safe mode/recovery mode
[00:32] <Euvius> ikonia how
[00:32] <Relondo> fizyplankton: It's a Toshiba L775-D. So I assume so.
[00:32] <ikonia> Euvius: when you boot you should see "recovery mode" in the grub menu
[00:32] <Gaming4JC> ikonia: not sure his usb would have grub
[00:32] <Euvius> ikonia i never see the grub menu
[00:32] <ikonia> Gaming4JC: what usb ?
[00:32] <Gaming4JC> Euvius: have you tried the alternate terminals? F1-F11?
[00:32] <fizyplankton> Relondo: are you on usbstick or cd?
[00:33] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Once you got it working once, did it work every other time?
[00:33] <Euvius> Gaming4JC no, what do I do
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> ikonia: he's using a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu.
[00:33] <transx3> i did, theres not much more to it. as i said before, I run ubuntu 11.10, and sound only comes out of my left speaker, and i know it isnt a hardware problem...
[00:33] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I have tried both, and Wubi as well.
[00:33] <ikonia> oh, I didn't see that
[00:33] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I use Unetbootin to create my flash drive.
[00:33] <pangolin> transx3: run alsmixer and see if anything is muted
[00:33] <apwbdjp> Relondo, you should try a full install, on a real partition, might work
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> Euvius: when you come to the login screen (or when it hangs/etc.) try pressing F1 through F11. It will be a terminal. You can do things from there to debug the graphical hangup. Or maybe get some errors.
[00:33] <fizyplankton> Relondo: not really, i had to ctrl-alt-bkspc overy once in a while. then my screen broke off about a month ago (its an ancient dell inspiron 1100. i was happy to see it die)
[00:33] <pangolin> alsamixer*
[00:34] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Could having things other than Ubuntu on my flash drive be the cause of the problem?
[00:34] <fizyplankton> Relondo: does your comp have a cd drive?
[00:34] <Euvius> Gaming4JC what do I do
[00:34] <Gaming4JC> Gaming4JC: Ctrl+Alt+F1-F11 rather :o
[00:34] <Relondo> fizyplankton: yes, because I have tried on a CD.
[00:34] <Gaming4JC> Euvius: try that and see if you can get a login screen
[00:34] <Euvius> then what'
[00:34] <Relondo> apwbdjp: I intend to, as soon as I get a full image of it saved to my external HD.
[00:34] <fizyplankton> Relondo: probably not, but having other files is just another thing to mess it up, so yes
[00:34] <Gaming4JC> Euvius - login if you have a CLI (command line interface) you're good
[00:34] <Gaming4JC> you can try startx
[00:35] <transx3> Nothing is muted...
[00:35] <Euvius> Gaming4JC ok ty
[00:35] <Relondo> fizyplankton: So the problem is just my drivers? Or my display?
[00:36] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, I m working on my host system win 7 and i build 2 virtual machine on it fedora 15 and now i have to communicate that both fedora but its giving err : [root@localhost bin]# iperf -s
[00:36] <jasmin> bind failed: Address already in use
[00:36] <fizyplankton> Relondo: boot it up again, but this time rapidly press shift (i dont remember which one, so just do both) and see if you get a menu that says something about recovery or shell or terminal
[00:36] <Relondo> fizyplankton: And if I do?
[00:36] <transx3> pangolin, nothing is muted...
[00:36] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, can u tell me how do i configure that
[00:37] <fizyplankton> Relondo: read me the options so i can tell you which one to select :)
[00:37] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I'll need to crank up my other laptop. Sec.
[00:37] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: I don't know much about #fedora but you could try their channel as well
[00:38] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, ok friend but on virtual machine how do i set IP address
[00:38] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Should I boot from my flash drive or Wubi?
[00:39] <fizyplankton> Relondo: flashdrive
[00:39] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, unetbootin installs grub in the drive?
[00:39] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I'm copying the other things from my drive to my computer.
[00:39] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: that depends on what VM you are running... Qemu, virtualbox? etc.
[00:39] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: huh?
[00:40] <fizyplankton> Relondo: what do you mean? the other files?
[00:40] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, the flash drive he says has been made with unetbootin, I don't think he'll find grub in there
[00:40] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I said I had things other than Ubuntu on their. I'm preserving them.
[00:41] <jasmin> Gaming4JC, VMware® Workstation 8.0.0 build-471780
[00:41] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: i can get into an ubuntu boot manager from my lucid install stick
[00:41] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, while with the Wubi install, the Windows bootloader does throw in grub, before the actual ubuntu
[00:41] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Should I remove wubi.exe from the drive?
[00:42] <Gaming4JC> jasmin: I've never used VMWare Workstation, so I've no idea. Though google brought this as first result - http://www.vmware.com/support/ws5/doc/ws_net_advanced_ipaddress.html
[00:42] <Gaming4JC> gl :)
[00:42] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: ill admit i dont know anythjing about wubi, but from what i can tell (in my ignorant opinion), it sounds like just another unneccessary thiung to go wrong. im quad booting with no issues and i never use anything other than grub
[00:42] <Relondo> Quad? What OS's?
[00:42] <fizyplankton> Relondo: winxp, 2 lucids, and a natty
[00:43] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, he said he's planning on installing grub directly into the mbr, but for now he can't get either wubi or live sessions to run
[00:43] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I don't know what those last two are. Hold on, switching to other 'top.
[00:43] <Relondo> exit
[00:44] <fizyplankton> Relondo: lucid is ubuntu 10.04, and natty is 11.04
[00:44] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, and I agree, having grub first can handle everything
[00:44] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Ah.
[00:44] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Ok, so should I or should I not remove Wubi.exe?
[00:44] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, (I think the windows bootloader is unavoidable, even grub can't boot directly a windows install, can it?)
[00:45] <Relondo> fizyplankton: From the flash.'
[00:45] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: yes it can. install the windows one like you normally would, then install ubuntu. the win has to be installed first, b/c it formats the mbr, but ubuntu can coexist in grub. its like than on my machine
[00:46] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: i never use windows boot manager. its a hell
[00:46] <cheshire_fox> Anyone care to try and help me with a screwed up wireless problem?
[00:46] <fizyplankton> cheshire_fox: are you using broadcomm?
[00:46] <ImTheDude> ya dictiondary is still giving me error server not found
[00:46] <cheshire_fox> Yes
[00:47] <fizyplankton> cheshire_fox: then god help you
[00:47] <cheshire_fox> As I've said nearly each time I've asked for help
[00:47] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, it's what I did (windows first, then grub), it says "Windows XP (loader)"
[00:47] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, HAHA ^^ Damn you made me wake up someone
[00:47] <fizyplankton> cheshire_fox: after i set mine up, i made a vow never to have anything to do with it again. im sorry
[00:47] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I'm about to retry while pressing shift rapidly
[00:48] <apwbdjp> Relondo, do so, and tell us if a menu pops up
[00:48] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: my grub just says something along the lines of "microsoft windows xp home edition (on sdb1)"
[00:49] <ImTheDude> is there another server for the dictionary?
[00:49] <godofmischief> ImTheDude: what's the name of the app you are using?
[00:49] <Relondo> No menu from the shifting. Ubuntu just loaded; I heard the welcome sounds.
[00:50] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, then it's probably because my Windows install has also an OEM recovery install on another partition, so there's one windows bootloader for both. Anyway we talked too much about this ^^
[00:50] <ImTheDude> gnome dictionary applet
[00:50] <Relondo> Should I try the Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[00:50] <fizyplankton> apwbdjp: that would do it
[00:50] <apwbdjp> Relondo, yes
[00:51] <Relondo> There's still nothing.
[00:51] <apwbdjp> Wow.. :-/
[00:51] <Relondo> Some might call this progress: I can't change the volume :)
[00:52] <godofmischief> ImTheDude: http://goo.gl/swR3W try that site, it shows you how to use it offline as well as the online servers it uses by default maybe that will ehlp you
[00:52] <apwbdjp> Relondo, because you have left the X session, do Ctrl+Altr+F7, and try again
[00:52] <apwbdjp> Tell me, when the flash drive boots, you get the same menu as in the CD? "Install Ubuntu", "Try Ubuntu without installing"?
[00:52] <ImTheDude> ok
[00:53] <Relondo> apwbdjp: Yes, I do.
[00:53] <Relondo> Ctrl+Alt+F7 is doing nothing.
[00:53] <apwbdjp> Relondo, then I'm not surprised you don't get a grub menu, at least.
[00:53] <Relondo> apwbdjp: And what is the X session?
[00:54] <godofmischief> Relondo: the x server is the gui environment that runs.
[00:54] <apwbdjp> Relondo, X is the server for the graphical interface, under Linux.
[00:55] <Relondo> apwbdjp: Ah. Should I try doing this after booting Wubi from the HD?
[00:55] <Relondo> apwbdjp: "This" meaning all of the things I just tried.
[00:55] <apwbdjp> Relondo, yes, hold the left shift (I think it's the left..) right after choosing Ubuntu, in the first menu
[00:56] <Relondo> apwbdjp: Hold, not tap. Got it.
[00:56] <apwbdjp> Relondo, actually tap repeately would work too, not sure which is better
[00:56] <Relondo> Yes, there is a menu!
[00:56] <Relondo> The options are:
[00:56] <Relondo> Normal Mode
[00:56] <Relondo> Safe graphic mode
[00:57] <Relondo> ACPI workarounds
[00:57] <Relondo> Verbose mode
[00:57] <Relondo> Demo mode
[00:57] <HazRPG> hey guys \o
[00:57] <apwbdjp> Try with safe graphic, at first
[00:58] <fizyplankton> Relondo: apwbdjp im wineing vmware installer, so i can try it along with you guys
[00:58] <HazRPG> I seem to have some trouble with my sound, for some reason it won't work at all, and it use to...
[00:58] <HazRPG> anyone around that may be able to help me?
[00:58] <HazRPG> (thanks in advance)
[00:58] <Relondo> Well, safe graphic mode doesn't appear to be doing anything. I also have not yet heard the Ubuntu statup.
[00:59] <fizyplankton> Relondo: wait for the hdd lights to settle down
[00:59] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Hold lights? You mean the HDD access lights?
[01:00] <HazRPG> its a "82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller" Intel card I have
[01:00] <fizyplankton> Relondo: yes. the light on your comp that lights up when the harddrive is in use
[01:01] <apwbdjp> HazRPG, did you do something before it stopped working? (updating kernel, reinstalling alsa?)
[01:01] <Relondo> fizyplankton: It's still flashing.
[01:01] <apwbdjp> Then it's probably still trying to boot
[01:01] <Relondo> Alright.
[01:01] <fizyplankton> Relondo: then its still loading. the startup noise wont play untill the very end
[01:01] <Relondo> fizyplankton: It never took this long before.
[01:02] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Should safe graphic mode take longer?
[01:02] <fizyplankton> possibly
[01:02] <HazRPG> apwbdjp: hmm, should have thought about trying a different kernel version on boot. I didn't actually do any updates, its just been 1 week ago since I last booted into linux (mainly because I've been busy, plus was working on something that only works in windows). All the updates are still waiting to be installed, but I haven't done them yet.
[01:02] <apwbdjp> Relondo, is the screen black? completely off? purple? you see a splash screen?
[01:02] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Previously, I heard statup noises after about 15-20 seconds.
[01:03] <Relondo> apwbdjp: Completely black. I don't if it's off or not.
[01:03] <fizyplankton> Relondo: you have to learn to improvise IO sources. just b/c the monitor isnt workign, that doesnt mean your comp cont comunicate with you. first lesson in linux, its all about input/output. the blinking lights, fan speeds, harddrive startup/spin down noises are all valid sources of output. you just need to learn how to listen
[01:03] <HazRPG> apwbdjp: only thing I remember doing last was updating to wine1.3 from wine1.2... finding that it didn't work for what I needed it for, and reverting back to wine1.2. But that was all
[01:04] <HazRPG> apwbdjp: but everything was working fine then (even after rebooting)
[01:04] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Got it.
[01:04] <cheshire_fox> hmm
[01:04] <cheshire_fox> idea
[01:04] <cheshire_fox> brb
[01:05] <Relondo> I need to go for about fifteen minutes. I'm going to leave it booting while I'm gone.
[01:05] <fizyplankton> Relondo: ok
[01:05] <apwbdjp> Relondo, I probably won't be here anymore, sorry
[01:05] <Relondo> apwbdjp: Alright, thanks for all your help so far :)
[01:05] <apwbdjp> Relondo, I wish you luck, and patience
[01:05] <Relondo> *goes AFK.
[01:06] <incorrect> weird, gnome session classic gives me a hybrid with a bottom bar and unity
[01:06] <apwbdjp> So I'm sorry HazRPG, and everyone else, I gotta go!
[01:07] <apwbdjp> Good night! You guys rock, I mean seriously.
[01:07] <smokedoggey> happey hacking
[01:07] <HazRPG> apwbdjp: no worries dude, thanks anyways :)
[01:07] <HazRPG> apwbdjp: might try a different kernel, thanks for reminding me of that - plus might try updating too
[01:07] <HazRPG> apwbdjp: see ya round
[01:08]  * apwbdjp bows in admiration to fizyplankton, then to everyone else in the chan.
[01:08] <apwbdjp> I'll always be in love with this community, seriously.
[01:08] <apwbdjp> I've been offtopic too long. Sorry about that! Bye!
[01:09] <ImTheDude> thanks godofmischief
[01:09] <ImTheDude> i got it working
[01:10] <GaMeBoY> Hello! When a program is installed via the ubuntu software center, where is the package downloaded/stored in the computer? Or is it only temporarily kept until the software is installed?
[01:10] <ImTheDude> it was set to server i had to set it to local host
[01:10] <MonkeyDust> GaMeBoY  /usr/bin/
[01:10] <GaMeBoY> cool, so the install packages are kept in there, MonkeyDust?
[01:11] <Flannel> GaMeBoY: the package is downloaded to /var/cache/apt/
[01:11] <Flannel> GaMeBoY: (well, technically /var/cache/apt/archives/)
[01:11] <BOT_NET> welcom 2 my BOT_NET
[01:11] <GaMeBoY> ah ok, i see. thanks Flannel
[01:16] <moes> Can a Windows program be downloaded to linux for burning to cd/rw
[01:17] <soreau> moes: There are native linux burner programs
[01:17] <soreau> ! burn | moes
[01:18] <twocarlo> moes:yes
[01:18] <brightspark> moes, yes, the executable file can exist in linux's directory structure and burned using one of ubottu's suggestions
[01:18] <brightspark> you just can't /run/ it, obviously
[01:18] <moes> soreau, Yes I have k3b..what I want to know is can I download and burn a windows malware program
[01:19] <soreau> moes: You can burn anything you want but the content you're referring to is not supported here
[01:21] <moes> brightspark, Thanks for the info
[01:21] <Relondo> I'm back
[01:21] <Relondo> fizyplankton: It still hasn't done anything :(
[01:23] <Euvius> hello, I cant connect to Ubuntu anymore all of a sudden.  Im on a USB stick atm
[01:23] <Relondo> fizyplankton: Correction-it has booted to Windows in my absence.
[01:23] <Euvius> what do I do
[01:23] <Relondo> Euvius: Be more specific. "Can't connect"?
[01:23] <Euvius> i try to start my computer, and it just hanges
[01:23] <Euvius> at the Xubuntu screen
[01:24] <brightspark> Euvius, can you try using an older kernel at the GRUB menu?
[01:24] <Relondo> Euvius: Wait, are you running Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[01:24] <Euvius> is it doing that disk check?
[01:24] <soreau> Euvius: Is it a persistent installation?
[01:24] <Euvius> Im running GNOME3
[01:24] <Euvius> GNOME shell on a basic Ubuntu install
[01:24] <Euvius> wahts persistent
[01:24] <Relondo> Ok, you said Xubuntu just a second ago.
[01:24] <Euvius> I installed basick Ubuntu, then installed Xubuntu, then instlled GNOME shell
[01:25] <brightspark> Euvius, persistent=installed to HDD rather than off a live cd
[01:25] <Euvius> now running GNOME shell, but Xubuntu shows up in the load screen
[01:25] <Euvius> yes
[01:25] <ubuntunoob> Hi.
[01:25] <askreet_> ubuntunoob: hi.
[01:25] <Euvius> is it doing that stpid HD check?
[01:25] <Euvius> taking hours?
[01:25] <Relondo> fizyplankton: You there?
[01:25] <Euvius> how do I skip that HD check
[01:25] <askreet_> Euvius: You can press F2 to see verbose boot information.
[01:26] <Euvius> ok, Ill press F2 then come back here
[01:26] <askreet_> Which will probably be helpful in figuring out what to do about it :)
[01:26] <askreet_> Ok
[01:26] <ubuntunoob> i need a cool theme for my ubuntu 10.4
[01:26] <ubuntunoob> a really cool one
[01:26] <ubuntunoob> any ideas?
[01:27] <askreet_> It sounds like you really need a cool look for GNOME, I recommend gnomelook (I think gnomelook.org or gnome-look.org)
[01:27] <ubuntunoob> aha
[01:27] <ubuntunoob> thanks
[01:27] <askreet_> np
[01:27] <Relondo> Ubuntunoob: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cool+ubuntu+themes
[01:28] <askreet_> Lol.
[01:28] <Gaming4JC> Would anyone mind telling me why "sendmail" is running if I don't even have the package installed? Odd........
[01:28] <ubuntunoob> hmm
[01:29] <Relondo> Anyone know where fizyplankton went?
[01:29] <Gaming4JC> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/767513/ <-- botted? D:
[01:29] <ubuntunoob> .
[01:30] <Gonzo> so you guys must get this question a lot, is it possible to move the side bar from unity?
[01:30] <Gonzo> or even to edit the position of the icons
[01:31] <brightspark> ubuntunoob, art.gnome.org also has theme components if you want to mix and match.
[01:32] <ubuntunoob> very nice
[01:32] <BOT_NET> ANY 1 USE BACKTRACK
[01:33] <Euvius> askreet_  It hangs at Stopping Level 5 sometighing compatibility
[01:33] <Euvius> i think its getting messed up becuase of the periodic HD check
[01:33] <soreau> ! backtrack | BOT_NET
[01:33] <Gaming4JC> "sudo update-rc.d sendmail disable" seems to take care of the process from running, but my error logs are still filled with connection refused
[01:33] <Relondo> fizyplankton: I got to the grub.
[01:34] <Euvius> Ubuntu gets broken when it wants to do that periodic HD c heck at bootup
[01:34] <Euvius> thats what Im thinking
[01:35] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: You were on when I was explaining my problem, weren't you?
[01:35] <Euvius> all of a sudden, my Ubuntu just stops worknig and I cant log on
[01:36] <Euvius> for no reason
[01:36] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: I was on when you were asking about grub and wubi... not sure about the problem
[01:36] <Gonzo> is there a way to filter out file pattern with ubuntuone? (for instance *.o)
[01:36] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Well, my problem is partially fixed. I think.
[01:36] <Gaming4JC> Euvius: did you try dropping to a terminal like I had mentioned? :o
[01:36] <Euvius> Gaming4JC how
[01:36] <Irbidan> hello all
[01:36] <askreet_> Irbidan: Hello.
[01:37] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: I got to the grub. There were two options-Ubuntu and Ubuntu (Recovery Mode).
[01:37] <Gaming4JC> Euvius: Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F11 then once you get a terminal you can login as usual. Once in try "startx" to load graphics
[01:38] <wookienz> guys, i have a 64 bit ubuntu, a 64 bit firefox, an SSD, 8gb of ram, amd x4 465 black edition chip...yet still some apps hang waiting for something...resources show that neither core or ram is maxed out...where do i start?
[01:38] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: I picked Ubuntu, which appeared to do nothing.
[01:38] <Euvius> Gaming4JC ok ill try tht
[01:38] <askreet_> wookienz: What apps?  I would start by running them inside a terminal to see if they output anything useful.
[01:38] <bodoh> hallo folks ... I dont have root and cannot sudo ;( :(
[01:39] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: So then I tried recovery mode, which also appears to be doing nothing. Though I think I was a little impatient-I only waited about five minutes.
[01:39] <bodoh> it says the uid is 1000
[01:39] <bodoh> what shall I do now?
[01:39] <askreet_> bodoh: Your UID is 1000, but you don't have access to sudo?  This *is* your computer right? :P
[01:39] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: hmm, should work. Though you don't really need grub if using wubi
[01:39] <bodoh> yeah
[01:39] <askreet_> bodoh: What happens why you try something like "sudo -s" in a terminal?
[01:39] <bodoh> let me see askhl_
[01:40] <bodoh> let me see askreet_
[01:40] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: It popped up when I held left shift.
[01:40] <bodoh> owned by uid 1000 .. should be 0
[01:40] <bodoh> that's why
[01:40] <bodoh> I cant even enter the safe mode ;(
[01:40] <askreet_> Can you copy the entire output to a pastebin so I can see?  It sounds like something odd happened to /etc/sudoers?
[01:40] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Actually, even when I didn't hold left shift.
[01:41] <wookienz> askreet_: could be firefox, thunderbird, banshee... i would expect this sort of system to scream..
[01:41] <bodoh> this is linux mint 12 BTW
[01:41] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: interesting... so you're ubuntu no longer boots? :(
[01:41] <OerHeks> ah mint is not ubuntu.
[01:41] <bodoh> sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0
[01:41] <bodoh> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[01:41] <_cb> what is the name for the left app bar on unity?
[01:41] <bodoh> now I understand why Linus hated this stoopid Gnome 3
[01:42] <askreet_> bodoh: Sounds like you managed to change the ownership on /etc/sudoers, but you can't become root in order to fix it.
[01:42] <askreet_> One second.
[01:42] <Gaming4JC> bodoh: try #linuxmint
[01:42] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Well, I think it does. I don't hear the statup sounds, but I do hear the turning-off sound.
[01:42] <bodoh> linux is linux ... not ubuntu or mint
[01:42] <askreet_> bodoh: This is a generic Linux problem, I'm happy to help -- you can safely ignore him.
[01:43] <bodoh> I know
[01:43] <askreet_> bodoh:  You'll need to boot into single user mode to adjust the ownership of /etc/sudoers -- are you familiar with how to do that?
[01:43] <bodoh> actually .. I only need to enter safe mode and "chown root.root /etc/sudoers
[01:43] <bodoh> that should work ... but the problem is .. I cant even enter that mode
[01:43] <bodoh> I dont have windows
[01:43] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: This time, before I chose either Ubuntu or Ubuntu (Recovery Mode), it just went into...something.
[01:43] <askreet_> bodoh:  Exactly but when you say "safe mode" that's probably not low level enough.
[01:43] <bodoh> and to play with grub, you again need to be root
[01:43] <bodoh> so .. ;(
[01:44] <askreet_> bodoh:  If you use the grub menu you can edit the bootlines on the fly.
[01:44] <bodoh> my machine just goes straight .. waiting time is 0
[01:44] <askreet_> bodoh:  Highlight Linux Mint and press "e", it will let you modify the kernel line -- if you add "1" by itself to end you will boot into single user mode.
[01:44] <bodoh> to fix that .. I need root again
[01:44] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Ctrl+Alt+F1 and Ctrl+Alt+F7 are not working.
[01:44] <_cb> I would like to make a folder with shortcuts to my most used apps and put that on the Unity app bar. How do I do that?
[01:44] <CarlFK> bodoh: hold down the shift key
[01:45] <bodoh> shift key?
[01:45] <askreet_> bodoh:  If that's true then you will need a live CD to modify /boot/grub/grub.conf to have a delay or just fix /etc/sudoers at that point :P
[01:45] <bodoh> ok ... let me try ... will that give me the boot menu?
[01:45] <CarlFK> bodoh: yeah, the key that says "shift" :)
[01:45] <askreet_> CarlFK: does that interrupt auto boot grub?
[01:45] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: hmm, I am not sure :(
[01:45] <bodoh> yeah .. that will be next askreet_
[01:45] <bodoh> ok .. I'll reboot & shift
[01:45] <askreet_> CarlFK:  That's why I hang out here, I learn something new each day :)
[01:45] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: This is irking me :/
[01:50] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: So, no more ideas at all?
[01:51] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: well, if it's booting without any graphics it may be a graphics card issue. Such things can be painful to debug... you'd probably need SSH from another box to even do it... :/
[01:52] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: SSH?
[01:52] <Gaming4JC> !ssh | Relondo
[01:52] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: you can remotely login to your computer using text, and fix things which aren't possible to repair from the physical computer due to hardware issues, etc.
[01:52] <grkblood> for some reason whenever i try to play a  video my player outputs a blackscreen, this just started and im not sure why
[01:53] <_cb> is it possible to create launchers and put them in a folder?
[01:53] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Gotcha. I have yet to try using an external monitor.
[01:53] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: But I will hopefully try that shortly.
[01:54] <Ibyss> In Ubuntu, is there a command to tell your machine to stop feeding a device power? Such a harddrive?
[01:54] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: sounds good, but if it's an onboard graphics card issue it may not work either
[01:54] <Euvius> ok, I reinstalled GNOME
[01:54] <Euvius> and now its fixed.  thank you
[01:54] <Gaming4JC> Euvius: cool
[01:55] <Euvius> Gaming4JC ty.  once I got to ctrl+alt+F1 i was albe to fix thingds
[01:55] <Euvius> I mean F2
[01:55] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Would that be because my card is underpowered, or just a compatibility issue? Because I have a pretty decent graphics card.
[01:55] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: compatibility issue. ATI and Intels are both were both rather notorius in the past.
[01:55] <Gaming4JC> are/were* :P
[01:56] <CarlFK> Ibyss: hdparm  -y   Put drive in standby mode;  -Y   Put drive to sleep
[01:56] <ultrixx> is openbsd better than linux?
[01:56] <Ibyss> CarlFK: I want to be able to hotswap.
[01:56] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: I have a Radeon 6520 card. Which is ATI, correct?
[01:56] <xangua> !ot | ultrixx
[01:56] <ultrixx> xangua: ok
[01:56] <HowardTheDuck> hey.  how is everyone
[01:57] <ultrixx> i am fine
[01:57] <ultrixx> and you?
[01:57] <Gaming4JC> !poll | ultrixx
[01:57] <HowardTheDuck> good
[01:57] <Gaming4JC> the bots know :)
[01:57] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: yes
[01:57] <HowardTheDuck> anyone know much about Optimus graphics and Ubuntu, last I chekced it didn't work
[01:57] <HowardTheDuck> wondering if any progress has been made
[01:57] <CarlFK> Ibyss: no clue
[01:57] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: been awhile since I had to install drivers for it manually... it's a bit painful
[01:57] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Could installing Ubuntu on it's own partition the proper way fix this?
[01:58] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: doubtful since it's a driver issue
[01:58] <Gaming4JC> !ati | Relondo
[01:58] <CHABI> hey guys, I'm trying to make it so I can control my windows pc with my Oneiric Laptop. I'vetried setting p a vpn andfor some reason the remote desktop vieweris just showing me a black screen. anyone know how to fix that?
[01:59] <Gaming4JC> CHABI: I've had pretty good success with FreeNX myself...
[01:59] <Gaming4JC> !freenx | CHABI
[01:59] <CHABI> thanks
[01:59] <Relondo> ubottu: Thanks
[01:59] <CHABI> I've been trying vinigre and for some reason it's been doing the bvlack screen thing
[02:00] <Relondo> Well, this is embarassing.
[02:00] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: hmm? :(
[02:00] <woogi> my disk utility shows i have 3 partitions. one wld be for ubuntu, another for windows, and the last is (i guess) my free disk space. windows crashed hard on me and i want to just format it off my drive. how do i know which  partition is windows
[02:00] <Relondo> I'm talking to a bot. Wihtout knowing it's a bot :/
[02:00] <CHABI> Lol, I had no idea either, I've only been running ubuntu for about a month now
[02:00] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: oh yes, lol. ubottu is the channel's favorite :)
[02:01] <woogi> can anyone help me?
[02:01] <Relondo> How useful are these bots?
[02:01] <woogi> better yet, how useful is this channel?
[02:01] <Gaming4JC> Relondo: pretty useful, they cover a lot of googling and wiki pages. Try !help  to see
[02:02] <grkblood> for some reason whenever i try to play a  video any player i use outputs a blackscreen, this just started and im not sure why
[02:02] <Guest45385> hey guys. if i wanted to use an sd card as a file system cache (even if just speeding up reads at boot time etc.), where should i be looking?
[02:02] <woogi> my disk utility shows i have 3 partitions. one wld be for ubuntu, another for windows, and the last is (i guess) my free disk space. windows crashed hard on me and i want to just format it off my drive. how do i know which  partition is windows
[02:02] <Relondo> !help
[02:02] <Gaming4JC> woogi: try gparted, look for NTFS and/or Fat32 partition. That's windows
[02:02] <Relondo> !patience
[02:02] <tjiggi_fo> woogi, windows would be on an NTFS partition
[02:04] <woogi> all 3 say they're ntfs. why wld trhat be?
[02:04] <CHABI> so the server side of FreeNX is installable on Windows?
[02:04] <Gaming4JC> woogi: wouldn't make much sense - Linux is always Ext2/3 filesystem, plus a swap space.
[02:04] <gogeta> woogi: becouse microsoft rules the world
[02:05] <goddard> my windows when I grab and move them are glitchy... I get no errors what can I do?
[02:06] <Relondo> fizyplankton: You back?
[02:06] <Gaming4JC> CHABI: hmmm not sure about that. I think I missed the part where you were trying to VPN into a windows box :(
[02:07] <Gaming4JC> but FreeNX is nice for Unix machines :)
[02:07] <IHateHavingToReg> A friend of mine told me about an application that allows me to edit text files locally on my Windows computer on my Ubuntu box over SSH. Does anyone know what he was referring to, by chance?
[02:07] <CHABI> Gaming4JC: Yeah, I'm trying to controll a windows box from a linux machine
[02:07] <Tillman32> Is there an IRC for Ubuntu Server only? Or is it all rolled into this IRC?
[02:08] <gogeta> Tillman32: same irc for both
[02:08] <Gaming4JC> Tillman32: #ubuntu-server exists
[02:08] <Gaming4JC> another channel
[02:08] <Tillman32> Nice, I may go check that out. Thanks
[02:08] <gogeta> Tillman32: lol
[02:09] <gogeta> CHABI: teamview vpm made easy
[02:09] <gogeta> vpn
[02:09] <gogeta> CHABI: its cross platform to
[02:09] <Gaming4JC> !editors | IHateHavingToReg
[02:09] <HazRPG> urgh... still getting no sound... well I've narrowed it down to not being a kernel issue... because I've tried all the versions that were still lingering around in grub... anyone able to help me out?
[02:10] <IHateHavingToReg> hmm not sure that's really what i'm looking for
[02:10] <goddard> what is unity built off of?
[02:10] <goddard> gnome?
[02:10] <Relondo> Gaming4JC: Ubottu's link only works for those who already have Ubuntu installed.
[02:10] <CHABI> gogeta: Thanks, I'll check it out
[02:10] <IHateHavingToReg> No, but I realize I'm asking in the wrong channel (sorry). I'm on a Windows computer and want to edit things on my Ubuntu box from my Windows computer, over SSH.
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> IHateHavingToReg: ah try putty?
[02:11] <Gaming4JC> !ssh | IHateHavingToReg
[02:11] <pythonirc1011> ubuntu python urllib2 -- is it broken? response = urllib2.urlopen("http://google.com", timeout=1) -- this code takes 30 seconds and a Ctrl+C to timeout on a disconnected machine...should take at most 1-2 seconds...
[02:12] <IHateHavingToReg> no I know I can putty in and use Nano but none of the "stock" text editors are really good for editing over a shell, that's why i'm trying to edit it locally
[02:12] <Gaming4JC> IHateHavingToReg: so you mean edit a file and upload it over ssh and or sftp
[02:13] <Gaming4JC> IHateHavingToReg: probably the best method would be an FTP server, then just edit the text files there via FileZilla
[02:13] <Gaming4JC> local text editor can be whatever you want... e.g. Notepad ++ or Notepad
[02:13] <chamunks> I'm trying to share a directory thats inside of a protected directory to another user on this computer the permissions are 770 for the directory containted within the 760
[02:13] <chamunks> Both users are under the same group as the protected directory itself.
[02:14] <IHateHavingToReg> Gaming4JC: yeah that's kind of what i mean, except it would still mimic something like Putty and update automatically.
[02:14] <IHateHavingToReg> sorry i'm not communicating what i'm looking for better
[02:14] <Gaming4JC> IHateHavingToReg: sounds neat whatever it is. :)
[02:15] <Gaming4JC> chamunks: I'm no expert at permissions, but you may be able to run "sudo chown -R userhere:grouphere directoryhere" ?
[02:16] <Gaming4JC> !chown
[02:16] <chamunks> My basic issue is im trying to share a directory within my user to another user on this computer
[02:16] <chamunks> And thankyou Gaming4JC
[02:17] <IHateHavingToReg> Gaming4JC: ah, this migth be it, but if not it's close http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinSCP
[02:17] <Gaming4JC> IHateHavingToReg: ah ok :)
[02:19] <billions> Here's a tough question: got a bad hdd, am running ubuntu on a pen drive to access the files. copying files works perfectly, except for those on damaged sectors. Ubuntu will happily copy the good files, then stall for about a minute on a broken file before presenting me with an error dialog where I can then skip a broken file and the copy operation will continue. How can I reduce the amount wasted on these broken files?
[02:19] <techie1980> I'm having a problem with ubuntu not detecting that my touchpad is in fact a touchpad and thus will not give me touchpad options - like disabling it when the keyboard is in use. is there a way to force this?
[02:20] <billions> (ps the error will be: i/o error: error splicing file, every time)
[02:21] <d33pblu3> I'm on an Intel Xeon CPU E5520, and I'm trying to change core frequencies.
[02:21] <d33pblu3> $ sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed gives me
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[02:21] <d33pblu3> The scaling options have been set correctly (well, turned on), and I'm not sure what else to try. Any thoughts?
[02:21] <FloodBot1> d33pblu3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <bonhoffer> how do i see what usb devices are connected?
[02:26] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: go to a terminal and type "lsusb"
[02:26] <bucky> d33pblu3,  you should ask on #gentoo-ia64 they might know
[02:26] <Gaming4JC> :)
[02:26] <bonhoffer> Gaming4JC, not found
[02:26] <bonhoffer> package?
[02:26] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: hmm... let me check
[02:26] <d33pblu3> bucky: thanks!
[02:27] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: yeah they may have done away with the package in newer versions. lspci is for pcis and should still be there... Wikipedia has it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lsusb
[02:28] <bonhoffer> no ls-psci -- anyway i'm trying to set up a scanner -- just curious if it is connected
[02:29] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: What version of ubuntu are you using? SimpleScan should work out of the box.
[02:29] <bonhoffer> 11.10
[02:29] <billions> so, another angle then: is it possible to set the copy operation to automatically skip bad files without having to see the error dialog and click the skip button?
[02:29] <bonhoffer> yeah -- no scanners detected from that app
[02:29] <IHateHavingToReg> Does OpenSSH include SFTP or is that a separate package?
[02:29] <bonhoffer> i have virtualbox with windows to load the scanner software
[02:29] <d33pblu3> bucky: any other ideas/channels I could try?
[02:30] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: and you have the virtualbox extras installed to enable usb?
[02:30] <Gaming4JC> it's a package from the VBox website
[02:31] <bucky> d33pblu3, the xeon has EIST to allow the system to dynamically adjust processor voltage and core frequency to decrease the average power consumption and heat production. are you checking when there is a steady high load on the server
[02:31] <bonhoffer> not sure -i'll get that -- i have guest additions, do i need more?
[02:31] <bonhoffer> anyway -- it would be good to know what linux sees
[02:31] <d33pblu3> bucky: nope, there's ~nothing running.
[02:31] <bucky> d33pblu3, thats why
[02:32] <d33pblu3> bucky: hm?
[02:32] <bucky> d33pblu3, and it's only designed to run at 2.26GHz anyway
[02:32] <alpha-aquilae1> I can't line in record using sound recorder, I am under 10.04 and I have sound recorder 2.30, any help?
[02:32] <d33pblu3> bucky: I'm trying to scale it down.
[02:32] <TREESofRIGHTEOUS> Hey, I need help reporting a Kernel regression. It happened in the transition between 10.04 and 10.11
[02:33] <bucky> d33pblu3, that would be done in the bios if at all
[02:33] <varun06> could not open selected VM debug port(8700), getting this massage everytime I open eclipse with ADT plugin
[02:34] <d33pblu3> bucky: hmmm. so, i've tweaked the scheduler so that if i have heterogeneous cores (say 3 at 2.26 and 1 at 1.8), I/O bound processes get migrated to that. that's sort of the "grand project." I guess I'll just poke the cpufreq stuff in the kernel
[02:34] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: yes the extension pack via http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.6/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.1.6-74713.vbox-extpack   | and you also need to add yourself to the vbox usergroup. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB
[02:34] <bucky> d33pblu3, are you saying the EIST (amd equiv = Cool 'n Quiet)
[02:34] <stepnjump\> Hi guys, I am wondering if there is a way to cp a dir with chmod permissions of 444 (drrr) on another sdx without having to change the permissions first?
[02:35] <bucky> d33pblu3, are you saying the EIST (amd equiv = Cool 'n Quiet) isn't working?
[02:35] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: I'm puzzled lsusb isn't working for you.
[02:35] <woogi> i'm running ubuntu 11.10.  using gparted, i show 5 partitions: 2 are 1 meg each unallocated; the other 3 show to be ntfs. i'm confused on which i shld format to get rid of widows. one ntfs has a mount point of /host, the other 2 no mount point but arec labeled recovery and system reserved. which wld be ubuntu?
[02:36] <jakr> I click on 'dash home' and type in my program's name. I click on the icon and NOTHING HAPPENS
[02:36] <bucky> d33pblu3, there might be a kernel option specifically for that if that is the case, the gentoo guys live in that world
[02:36] <d33pblu3> bucky: ah
[02:36] <Gaming4JC> bonhoffer: Might be of interest to you http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-get-hardware-information-in.html
[02:36] <d33pblu3> bucky: interesting. i'll go poke them. =)
[02:38] <TREESofRIGHTEOUS> Please, I would like help reporting this issue of the kernel regression because I would like to use the newer versions of Ubuntu.  Anyone have any info?????
[02:38] <jakr> how can i use dash home to start a program that I cannot find the files to.  In windows I know to look for programs in "program files". what is the equavalent for ubuntu
[02:39] <Gaming4JC> !bugs | TREESofRIGHTEOUS
[02:40] <jakr> ^
[02:40] <billions> is the ubuntu file copy operation dialog just a fronted to the cp command?
[02:41] <TREESofRIGHTEOUS> I don't run the newer versions because I cannot (without acpi=off)... so do I need to install it to report  ubuntu-bug linux
[02:41] <Gaming4JC> TREESofRIGHTEOUS: yes you would need to file a bug with your system configuration and try to triage it down to what exactly is breaking
[02:42] <Gaming4JC> you can also try ...
[02:42] <Gaming4JC> !dev
[02:42] <Gaming4JC> :)
[02:46] <drums23> hi
[02:46] <TREESofRIGHTEOUS> alright....thanks for your help!!
[02:46] <drums23> i have been trying to join #ubuntu @ irc.ubuntu.com with irssiiirssi
[02:47] <drums23> but i keep getting Errorneous username messages
[02:47] <drums23> has anyone ever dealt with this
[02:50] <cpgo> ubuntu 11.04 or 10.04.3 ?
[02:51] <cpgo> were the font rendering changes applied to 10.04? or was that 10.10 and on?
[02:51] <woogi> windows crashed and burned to a cinder, and i want to format it from my hd. will someone pls help me understand what partition i need to format? i'm using gparted. 2 partitions are unallocated and 3 say ntfs. i'm on ubuntu right now and don't understand why everything is ntfs.
[02:51] <burnt> hey, can I get my date on the pannel to display dd/mm/yyy rather than short date like format
[02:52] <burnt> many thanks
[02:53] <drums23> ntfs are windows partitions
[02:53] <woogi> i know
[02:53] <urlin2u> woogi, your in a ubuntu install, and you see only ntfs partitions correct?
[02:53] <woogi> no
[02:54] <drums23> so if you want to completely erase everything on that drive and reinstall windows you can just do it by using the windows installer cd  - it will format it then as well
[02:54] <woogi> not in an install at all
[02:54] <woogi> i want tro get RID of windows...not reinstall it
[02:54] <nrdb> atm the <alt> key can be used to drag a window without using the title bar... the key used, could be configured in previous versions   , I can't find anywhere to change it with this new install... With ccsm I completly disabled the 'Move Window' plugin... in gconf-editor I found some entries for compiz->move, I changed those... but the <alt> can still move the window... how do I change the key or turn it off all together?
[02:55] <urlin2u> woogi, delete it then in gparted
[02:55] <drums23> ok well if you have to use gparted then you can recreate ntfs partitions for Windows or exf3 for ubuntu but
[02:55] <woogi> but which is windows and which is ubuntu? the parts all say they're ntfs
[02:55] <woogi> i want to keep ubuntu
[02:56] <drums23> hmmm...so you had ubuntu running on windows?
[02:56] <cpgo> does anyone know which version of ubuntu was shipped with the new truetype font rendering (after the patents expired)
[02:56] <urlin2u> woogi, did you install a wubi ubuntu ?
[02:56] <woogi> on the same drive, yes
[02:56] <woogi> yepeers
[02:56] <drums23> i dont know anything about wubi. sorry.
[02:56] <drums23> : )
[02:56] <burnt> hey, can I get my date on the panel to display dd/mm/yyyy rather than short date like format
[02:56] <woogi> yes, it's a wibi installation
[02:56] <urlin2u> woogi, you can't delete the windows and keep the wubi, kt is a file in windows, if trhat is what you have .
[02:56] <woogi> wubi =)
[02:56] <urlin2u> kt=it
[02:58] <woogi> and windows crashed so bad hat it wont even run. i ned to get it off my drive and have just ubuntu fo rmy os
[02:58] <drums23> does wubi create a type of image file of some sort that it runs ubutun off?
[02:58] <burnt> can someone please help me
[02:58] <burnt> ta
[02:58] <DaZ> drums23: pretty much
[02:58] <twocarlo> burnt:you cant
[02:59] <drums23> ahh..what if you copy that image and all other files and reinstall wubi on another Windows ..would those files still run?
[02:59] <drums23> thats worth a try...?
[03:00] <DaZ> drums23: if you add the right lines to boot.ini it should work, imho
[03:01] <woogi> so...what can i do to have nothing but ubuntu on my drive? do i create a startup disk and format my drive, then use my sd to install ubuntu on the clean drive?
[03:01] <drums23> woogi.,,do you have another working windows system?
[03:01] <woogi> no i dont
[03:01] <salty> burnt, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780676 try this
[03:01] <drums23> what other system do you have?
[03:01] <woogi> i have windows 7 (crashed hard) and what i'm running now, ubuntu
[03:02] <woogi> but gparted shows all my partitions are ntfs
[03:02] <woogi> crazy, that
[03:02] <burnt> ah thanks
[03:02] <burnt> where is /apps/
[03:02] <urlin2u> woogi, did you install ubuntu from windows?
[03:02] <woogi> yes
[03:03] <woogi> wubi installation
[03:03] <drums23> i dont know much about wubi but maybe you can research wubi more and figure out if you can copy the installation from that drive onto another windows and then run it successfully
[03:03] <urlin2u> woogi, then it is a wubi it is a file inside of windows.
[03:03] <salty> burnt it's in gcon-editor
[03:03] <salty> gconf*
[03:04] <woogi> so how do i get rid of windows and have ubuntu only on hd?
[03:04] <drums23> no..
[03:04] <drums23> dont get rid of windows yet..
[03:04] <woogi> huh?
[03:04] <burnt> ah im new, was looking for /apps/ in root
[03:04] <drums23> because you want to find out if you can save your wubi ubuntu installation files, right?
[03:04] <burnt> confused there for a second
[03:04] <woogi> windows wont even runm
[03:04] <burnt> thanks
[03:04] <woogi> run
[03:04] <salty> np
[03:05] <bodoh> hoi .. it's me bodoh .. the one with that stoopid root's uid issue
[03:05] <bodoh> now I'm in puppy linux
[03:05] <salty> we all were new at one time or another
[03:05] <woogi> windows is out of there. toast
[03:05] <bonhoffer> what is the preferred program in ubuntu to turn a cd into an iso
[03:05] <salty> brasero
[03:05] <bonhoffer> thanks!
[03:05] <salty> yw
[03:05] <drums23> right...windows wont run. but your wubi ubuntu is still there. maybe you can research more on what you can do to save wubi installations from one drive and transfer them on another
[03:06]  * ryanCH converts salty into an ISO
[03:06] <salty> yes
[03:06] <urlin2u> woogi, take a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[03:06] <salty> i copy disk to iso file
[03:06] <salty> lol
[03:06] <ryanCH> yes, yes you do.
[03:07] <salty> i just got it....lol...
[03:07]  * salty is a slow leak
[03:07] <cpgo> is it possible to update libfreetype6 to version 2.4.x in ubuntu 10.04
[03:07] <woogi> urlin2u: thanks. am looking at it right now.
[03:07] <ryanCH> anything is possible.
[03:08] <cpgo> :)
[03:08] <urlin2u> woogi, cool no problem.
[03:08] <cpgo> not quite ;)
[03:09] <ryanCH> Well, i can make PI equal a different number other than 3.14159 ... just by tweaking the laws of physics.
[03:09] <goddard> can anyone help me troubleshoot some graphics issues?
[03:09] <bruenig> goddard: jean-luc?
[03:09] <drums23> anyways...i am having a hard time getting webmin to download off the main site and its mirror site. i keep getting connection errors when using wget. since im new to ubuntu server, could i mount a file on virtualbox (since its a virtual server) and run the installation off there?
[03:10] <bruenig> webmin is insecure, stop using it
[03:10] <drums23> ...:(...
[03:10] <drums23> how so?
[03:10] <ryanCH> yeah use, bruenig instead.
[03:10] <cpgo> ryanCH: how sure are you it will work?
[03:11] <ryanCH> cpgo: was ist das?
[03:11] <cpgo> ryanCH: ?
[03:11] <drums23> how is webmin insecure
[03:11] <ryanCH> cpgo: was ist das - what is that?
[03:11] <ryanCH> ;p
[03:11] <goddard> its an Nvidia issue
[03:11] <ryanCH> (german) sorry ;p
[03:11] <cpgo> ryanCH: what is libfreetype6?
[03:11] <ryanCH> font
[03:12] <woogi> urlin2u, where do get the wubi move file?
[03:12] <cpgo> lol.. I'm lost
[03:12] <OerHeks> cpgo, libfreetype6-udeb (2.4.2-2) is available in Maverick 10.10  not sure how you could use that version
[03:12] <woogi> =)
[03:13] <cpgo> :S thats the version that makes font rendering bearable under linux (for me)
[03:13] <urlin2u> woogi, I think there is a link on the thread let me look.
[03:13] <cpgo> so do I go with 10.10 or 11.04
[03:13] <cpgo> which would be more stable
[03:14] <ryanCH> 11.04
[03:14] <raws_raws> now its good
[03:14] <raws_raws> see you soon
[03:14] <raws_raws> gotta run for a bit
[03:14] <drums23> im sure all versions are "stable"
[03:14] <DaZ> "stable" :3
[03:14] <ryanCH> all stable releases are stable ;p
[03:14] <cpgo> heh
[03:15] <drums23> thats what i meant...?
[03:15] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'unmountable drive' after entering pass.
[03:15] <drums23> DaZ what do you mean :3??
[03:15] <cpgo> i mean stable, not "stable"
[03:15] <woogi> i looked and cldn't find one
[03:15] <drums23> lol
[03:15] <ryanCH> drums23: perhaps.. ;p
[03:15] <salty> cpgo 2.3.11 is the highest i see for your distro
[03:15] <drums23> jesus christ if any "stable" version of ubuntu isnt stable..then idk what is...
[03:15] <urlin2u> woogi, you see it in the first post? Notice the pre made partition for the tranfer to go to as well, it would be a ext4 type partition needed.
[03:16] <woogi> ty =)
[03:16] <drums23> woogi why cant you just repair windows
[03:16] <drums23> its easy
[03:16] <DaZ> either i'm dividing "stable" by three, or it's an emoticon :x
[03:17] <cpgo> do you know if the new truetype rendering is in that version salty, or if its possible for me to build from src in 10.04
[03:17] <lowtax> ubuntu blows
[03:17] <neersighted> my nicklist just blew up
[03:17] <neersighted> effin trolls
[03:17] <drums23> but this is an ubuntu channel?
[03:17] <woogi> dont want windows, drum
[03:17] <drums23> woogi then just redoo everything!
[03:17] <salty> the binaries only seem to go to 2.3.11 but let me check on building from source
[03:18] <drums23> why are you trying to save that wubin ubuntu install if ur going to run ubuntu ?????
[03:18] <drums23> wow...so weird..
[03:18] <woogi> the very fact it crashed like it did for no apparent reason is reason 'nuff =)
[03:18] <salty> cpgo try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype
[03:18]  * DaZ is interested in what happened to that wubi install, and is way too lazy to scroll through all the logs ;x
[03:19] <urlin2u> drums23, the wubi is a file it is ubuntu, it will transfer and be a regular install.
[03:19] <drums23> i hope that even if you figure out how to save that wubi install that you dont try to figure out how to run that install as the default os on the newly reformated drive
[03:19] <lexvegas> Anyone know _Why_ Ubuntu opts to have caps lock off at boot? I know how to fix it with numlockx, but it is annoyging to do every time i install
[03:19] <woogi> i'm not trying to save windows, else i wldn't be trying to find out how to format it off my drive.  wow, so weird of you to think that
[03:19] <drums23> i didnt know that url
[03:20] <drums23> so it becomes an installer??
[03:20] <cpgo> thanks salty installing now, ill see if it owrks
[03:20] <salty> ok let us know
[03:21] <salty> brb... need more coffee
[03:21] <drums23> ...i think woogi needs to explain what his goal is
[03:22] <woogi> lol...to get rid of windows and save ubuntu as my my sole os
[03:22] <drums23> ...
[03:22] <drums23> is that even possible?
[03:22] <DaZ> seems doable
[03:22] <woogi> why not?
[03:23] <drums23> it sounds daunting
[03:23] <drums23> to turn that image from windows into a full os ..and since ur windows stopped working..how will you activate that process?
[03:23] <MTecknology> drums23: I don't have windows anywhere in my network
[03:23] <lexvegas> woogi, use DD or something similar to do a total backup, boot into ubuntu with a live cd and restort that backup to a new partition.
[03:23] <lexvegas> just a thought
[03:24] <DaZ> copy it somewhere else, try if it's normal binary image and dd it onto the physical drive :f
[03:24] <MTecknology> weiyang: you want basically a backup copy?
[03:24] <woogi> but with windows out of service, i'm thinking my only option is to make a startup disk, format my drive, then use the sd to install ubuntu back to my drive
[03:24] <drums23> ...
[03:24] <MTecknology> woogi: you want basically a backup copy?
[03:24] <drums23> woogi. just forget about that wubi. install unbutu fully from scratch
[03:25] <woogi> hell if i know =) else i wldn't be here wasting y'all's time
[03:25] <lexvegas> does wubi use a .vdi for the virtual drive?
[03:25] <drums23> no idea..
[03:25] <Jordan_U> lexvegas: No. A simple ext4 filesystem.
[03:26] <MTecknology> woogi: what is it you're trying to accomplish? take windows off and put ubuntu on?
[03:26] <DaZ> it has to be something readable from windows bootloader imho
[03:26] <lexvegas> that foils a plan of mine. :/
[03:26] <drums23> his windows OS failed. he wants to find his wubi ubuntu install and turn that into his main OS from that same drive...
[03:26] <lexvegas> woogi, is the windows install dead?
[03:27] <MTecknology> oooooh
[03:27] <MTecknology> ouch
[03:27] <hasufell> i am a pretty fairy and i want someone to make love to me
[03:27] <woogi> yes. sorta. i'm running ubuntu right now. windows crashed today and won't do squat. so all i want to do is remove windows. but all my file systems show to be ntfs. so that means (i guess) that ubuntu is running from somewhere inside windows. all i want to do is make my hd os ubuntu only.
[03:28] <weiyang> MTecknology, talking with me?
[03:28] <MTecknology> weiyang: wrong tab complete, sorry
[03:28] <hasufell> ubuntu is running from somewhere inside windows? wtf???
[03:28] <drums23> he used gparted to look at his partitions..he has only 3 ntfs partitions so his ubuntu install is not in any way recoverable by just erasing windows. he would need to figure out how to copy wubi  files and the ubuntu image that he has and convert that onto a main OS by means of more research...
[03:28] <salty> woogie can you burn a livecd?
[03:28] <weiyang> MTecknology, :)
[03:29] <MTecknology> woogi: wubi makes ubuntu run from inside windows
[03:29] <woogi> to a stick ui can. yes.
[03:29] <woogi> i
[03:29] <drums23> woogi..lol..rebuild ubuntu?
[03:29] <hasufell> who is wookie?
[03:29] <drums23> its easy
[03:29] <woogi> i kmnow. that's why all my file systems show to be ntfs
[03:29] <salty> then that would be my thing to do
[03:29] <drums23> lol ikr
[03:30] <MTecknology> woogi: if you can boot into the ubuntu install, then copy your home directory to an external drive, reinstall from scratch, copy home directory back, reinstall your apps, live happy
[03:30] <drums23> whats inside that wubi ubuntu install, woogi?
[03:30] <mkjackson_mobile> hey folks, I'm trying to run my Ubuntu on my thumb drive but to improve performance I tried to put the /tmp directory on the tmpfs, after that the system started getting random crashes
[03:30] <salty> the live disk will reformat your drives
[03:30] <MTecknology> drums23: you can grab package selections from syaptic too
[03:30] <DaZ> woogi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide there seems to be the guide how to migrate it.
[03:30] <lexvegas> woogi, I have it! Use an ubuntu CD to backup the WUBI file. Then, temporarily install windows again. Reinstall wubi, but replace the WUBI file with the one you just backed up after youre done. Then, use ubuntu to backup your /home/ and do a fresh install of ubuntu. Replace the /home/ with the one you backed up
[03:31] <MTecknology> woogi: you can grab package selections from syaptic too
[03:31] <mkjackson_mobile> I then found a link that showed a script that would (I assumed) fix the problem but then the system wouldn't boot at all... any suggestions?
[03:31] <MTecknology> drums23: sorry, guess i'm tired and hilighting poorly
[03:31] <woogi> dunno. cant access windows b/c it crashed today. lucky i still have this ubuntu running
[03:31] <drums23> lex...thats ultimately what he would need to do but thats only if he has important files on that
[03:32] <xangua> !tab | drums23
[03:32] <LinoSP> someone knows how to extract   numbers of this file "/proc/meminfo" I only wanna extract numbers and send it to a file "/home/cantmem" I trying with this
[03:32] <LinoSP> head -1 /proc/meminfo | cut -s -n -d: -f2 > /home/cantmem
[03:32] <lexvegas> drums23, I'm assuming he does if he wants to rescue
[03:32] <hasufell> ill call in a chopper
[03:32] <drums23> i assume that too
[03:33] <urlin2u> drums23, MTecknology there is a script to transfer the wubi to a partition as a regular install I posted it for woogi here is the script  https://github.com/bcbc/Wubi-move
[03:33] <DaZ> LinoSP: cat /proc/meminfo|awk '{print $2}' ? :x
[03:33] <hasufell> i dont like wookies
[03:33] <salty> woogi, make a live disk and boot from there and backup what you want and then install on the next boot
[03:33] <drums23> then what he should then do is find out if its possible to even load any of those wubi ubuntu installs on Ubuntu itself and then just copy files over...
[03:34] <salty> if he backs everything into a iso or tar file woogi can extract what is wanted
[03:34] <urlin2u> woogi, you get the script address https://github.com/bcbc/Wubi-move
[03:35] <viewer> how can change the name that a drive mounts as?
[03:35] <drums23> xangua...what was that?
[03:35] <DaZ> viewer: elaborate? :x
[03:36] <hasufell> man mount
[03:36] <hasufell> :D
[03:36] <salty> mtab or fstab i think viewer
[03:36] <DaZ> unless he wants the volume name :f
[03:36] <LinoSP> DaZ: it works  but i need to do it with cut  , head, tail commands :P
[03:36] <salty> wants to change it
[03:36] <DaZ> lolwhy
[03:36] <viewer> DaZ, it was just the filesystem label, I found a setting in Disk Uitility.  THanks
[03:37] <drums23> earlier there was a user that said webmin was insecure..but he didnt respond to why..
[03:37] <drums23> does anyone use webmin, here?
[03:37] <drums23> i mean, does anyone on here use webmin
[03:38] <Flannel> !webmin | drums23
[03:38] <evilwombat> Hello. I filed a bug where Ubuntu is corrupting external storage devices during suspend, but the person triaging the problem didn't seem to understand the gravity of the situation. So, what is the cleanest way to disable the automounter, or to prevent suspend from succeeding if external devices are mounted?
[03:38] <drums23> oh
[03:38] <drums23> ...thats just ...not right.
[03:38] <salty> lol
[03:39] <drums23> its such a good development...:(
[03:39] <salty> ispconfig is something to look into drums23
[03:39] <salty> ISPConfig3
[03:40] <itaylor57> !webmin | drums23
[03:40] <drums23> is that some sort of quick reply?
[03:40] <ViperVenom> Hello I'm new to using linux. I'm currently using Windows 7 and tried installing the Windows Installer from Ubuntu, but when I restart and choose Ubuntu from the boot menu it comes up with an error. If you could PM or query me it would be easier to see which messages are directed to me instead of the lobby, thanks.
[03:41] <xangua> ViperVenom: or you could try a real install
[03:41] <MahaVishnu> ViperVenom, yea just download a real .iso now that its screwed anyway
[03:41] <raven> sshfs/fuse mounted remote ssh folder in /home/user/remote using sudo - "permission denied" now - how to access it
[03:41] <itaylor57>  Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality.  See <free whcp> for alternatives.
[03:43] <raven> sshfs/fuse mounted remote ssh folder in /home/user/remote using sudo - "permission denied" now - how to access it
[03:44] <drums23> wow wtf
[03:44] <drums23> ,...and that was in 2005
[03:44] <drums23> thanks for that link
[03:44] <dr_willis> why did you yse sudo with sshfs?
[03:47] <jakr> i asked an hour ago to no response.  This will be the last time I ask it.
[03:47] <raven> sshfs/fuse mounted remote ssh folder in /home/user/remote using sudo - "permission denied" now - how to access it
[03:47] <jakr> Why is there no response when i click on an app i from dash home
[03:48] <dr_willis> raven why did you use sudo with sshfs?
[03:48] <drums23> but its not 2005 anymore
[03:48] <raven> dr_willis, without root no access to /dev/fuse
[03:48] <drums23> so i will still use webmin
[03:48] <dr_willis> jakr:  so dash is basically not launching anythig
[03:49] <jakr> dr_willis: no it will launch most programs.
[03:49] <dr_willis> raven:  you need to have your users in the fuse group i recall. this is the default normally.
[03:50] <raven> dr_willis, i added the user to the fuse group
[03:50] <dr_willis> and did you log them out/back in?
[03:50] <xMopx> Hey. My root (only) partition has gone read-only right after a fresh install. How can I fix this?
[03:52] <drums23> or ill look into cpanel..
[03:52] <nhocht> how to login Facebook on ubuntu?
[03:52] <dr_willis> xMopx:  last i saw that - it was a hard drive failing issue. check your dmesg output.
[03:52] <dr_willis> gotta run. beck in 30 min
[03:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[03:53] <urlin2u> nhandler, don't use it but like any other OS.
[03:53] <xMopx> dr_willis: will do. HD is probably OK though. It's  a fairly new SSD that another partition boots just fine (OSX)
[03:53] <raven> dr_willis, solved right now - i simple forgot to relogin sry for that ;)
[03:54] <nhocht> how to login Facebook on ubuntu?
[03:54] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, dmesg | grep ata
[03:54] <xangua> nhocht: open firefox and go to facebook.com
[03:54] <nhocht> not done
[03:57] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: ill have that in a sec. booting it back up (which is strangely slow)
[03:59] <nhocht> how to login Facebook on ubuntu?
[03:59] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: What sort of message should I be looking for?
[03:59] <MahaVishnu> nhocht, someone told you already ?
[03:59] <jatoo> I'm trying to use the program "xindy" on Ubuntu Server 10.04.3, but I can't install it: "Package xindy is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:59] <jatoo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package xindy has no installation candidate".  Does anyone know why this might be?  Or how I can fix it?
[03:59] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, errors, you can pastebin it if you like, did it boot in to ro mode again ?
[04:00] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: yeah, its booting to cmd prompt and i have no (quick) way to get the text off of it
[04:00] <xMopx> the only thing that looks remotely looks like an error is....
[04:00] <nhocht> how to login Facebook on ubuntu?
[04:00] <nhocht> how to login Facebook on ubuntu?
[04:00] <nhocht> how to login Facebook on ubuntu?
[04:00] <FloodBot1> nhocht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <xMopx> "Lost interrupt: Status 0x59"
[04:01] <xMopx> and "This should not happen! Data will be lost" immediately after
[04:01] <kouellette> Hello, Looking for something similar to GeekTools for Mac to run on Ubuntu.
[04:01] <xangua> !info cindy lucid | jatoo
[04:01] <xangua> but it looks like it is on oneiric jatoo
[04:01] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, so it boots to a tty. with ro file system ?
[04:01] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: yeah.
[04:01] <jatoo> !info cindy lucid
[04:02] <xangua> !info xindy | jatoo :P
[04:02] <jatoo> xangua: ok, i'm not calling it directly, it's being called (i believe) by makeglossaries
[04:02] <jatoo> xangua: so i'll have to install it manually somehow?
[04:02] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: I am using 10.04.3 (older version is necessary for some specific software)
[04:03] <xMopx> if its important./
[04:03] <ServerTechLaptop> Can i use the older ubuntu ui in 11.10?
[04:03] <salty> jatoo it says xindy is in the universe repositories
[04:04] <xangua> !gnome2 | ServerTechLaptop
[04:04] <czardoz> !notunity
[04:04] <ServerTechLaptop> !notunity
[04:04] <jpmh> I have a brand new computer - lap top that I want to put ubuntu on - I have a memoryt stick that boots and runs live perfectly - the computer has Win7.  I am not being offered the option to install and preserve Windoze - why not?
[04:04] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: fsck says the FS is clean too. Rebooting just brings me back to the same thing though :/
[04:04] <coolstar> Does anyone here know how to output to a console from an NPAPI plugin in firefox?
[04:04] <ServerTechLaptop> ._. could you work that out?
[04:05] <salty> jatoo sorry it says it was deleted
[04:05] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, yea I was about to tell you to try that hrm.
[04:05] <ServerTechLaptop> !notunity | ServerTechLaptop
[04:05] <coolstar> The plugin I'm making will be open source and will help ubuntu or any linux user in general. (It will not be for Mac or Windows)
[04:06] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, did you find errors in dmesg? if not just try a ... sudo mount -o remount,rw
[04:06] <jatoo> salty: why would it have been deleted?
[04:06] <nhocht> oh
[04:06] <nhocht> my god
[04:06] <nhocht> dd
[04:06] <nhocht> shit
[04:06] <coolstar> Anyone?
[04:06] <nhocht> dcm
[04:06] <nhocht> chung may
[04:06] <nhocht> im mom de
[04:06] <FloodBot1> nhocht: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <salty> i'm reading that jatoo hold on
[04:07] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: Nothing that would looks clearly like an error at all. Its rebooting after I fscked, I will try that when it comes back.
[04:07] <urlin2u> jpmh, open gparted and look how many partitions are shown, imagebin it as well probably.
[04:07] <nhocht> ./join ##game
[04:07] <jpmh> urlin2u: and then what?
[04:07] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, nothing like ATA and SSconnection reset or DRTY error type things?
[04:08] <urlin2u> jpmh, there are partition amount limitations we are looking at that.
[04:08] <xMopx> xMopx: Yeah, nothing. Ill look again if i should look for those specific things
[04:08] <jpmh> urlin2u: also - is gparted on the live - I think I will need to do parted won't I?
[04:08] <urlin2u> jpmh, it is on the live cd
[04:09] <salty> jatoo start here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/xindy
[04:09] <jpmh> urlin2u: booting right now
[04:09] <jpmh> urlin2u: so, what are we going to look for?
[04:10] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: "ata1: lost interrupt (Status 0x50)"
[04:10] <urlin2u> jpmh, cool, many manufacturers send out the computers with 4 primaries which in a standard mbr set up is the max, but ubuntu will go in a extended.
[04:10] <salty> jatoo it seems that it was no longer compatible unless you rebuilt it from source
[04:10] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, do you have a bunch of soft resets ?
[04:11] <urlin2u> jpmh, the rule is 4 primaries or 3 primaries and a extended.
[04:11] <jatoo> salty: i see... so, does this mean i'll need to build it from source myself?
[04:11] <jpmh> urlin2u: yep - that is the case - so now how do we get past that?
[04:11] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: I saw those scroll by as its booting (I turned off quiet splash) but i havent spotted any. Ill grep when its done
[04:11] <salty> try that link that was in that page... they seemed to have rebuilt another bianry of the app
[04:11] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, you can also check /var/log/syslog with cat
[04:11] <urlin2u> jpmh, pastebin a svreen shot of gparted, you want to use the windows virtual partitioner to resize the ntfs's
[04:11] <xMopx> Alright.
[04:12] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, it would be weird for an ssd to fail though wouldn't it?
[04:12] <urlin2u> !imagebin | jpmh
[04:12] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: Yeah. I only got it this summer, too.
[04:13] <salty> jatoo, yes you'll have to build from source ... it's dependencies will have to be met
[04:13] <urlin2u> jpmh, have you done a backup of the windows yet?
[04:13] <jatoo> salty: sigh... ok.  latex is always a nightmare!  thanks for your help!
[04:14] <salty> np and yw
[04:14] <jatoo> salty: oh, where did you find that information, btw?
[04:14] <jpmh> urlin2u: the windoze is brand new - so we can always recover if we need to - onky reason I want to keep it is in case of a warranty call - do not intend to use it
[04:14] <salty> jatoo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/xindy/2.3-2
[04:14] <RokcStar> hey i need some help. ive never installed an app from a .tar file before.
[04:14] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: It seems to of stalled here: http://i.imgur.com/gMWkA.jpg
[04:15] <urlin2u> jpmh, the ubuntu install will install grub as the bootloader you may loose the recovery or at least easy use of it.
[04:15] <jpmh> ok - makes sense
[04:15] <RokcStar> i have extracted the files into a folder. i have files such as autogen.sh, configure.ac, and makefile.am. Are these files used to install the application?
[04:15] <gmachine_24> Hi. I need the command line command please to restore GRUB - it is like something grub2 ... After an Ubuntu install my Windows won't boot. Thank you.
[04:15] <urlin2u> jpmh, you want to cover you you know what. :D
[04:16] <urlin2u> your*
[04:16] <urlin2u> gmachine_24, what can you boot to now?
[04:16] <gmachine_24> urlin2u, Ubuntu
[04:16] <jpmh> urlin2u: appreciate that - so when we have backed it upwhat are we going to do?
[04:16] <urlin2u> gmachine_24, run sudo update-grub
[04:17] <gmachine_24> urlin2u, ok. many thanks.
[04:17] <LinoSP> DaZ: Bye and thx for your help ;)
[04:17] <urlin2u> jpmh, if you have 4 partitions you will have to loose one and put a extended in, this will likely include resizing a windows partition to have room for the extended.
[04:17] <gmachine_24> urlin2u, that did it. thanks again.
[04:18] <urlin2u> gmachine_24, no problem.
[04:18] <osadmin> Anyone: on the cloud controlloer (oneiric) i installed openstack-dashboard and got "Error importing middleware django_openstack.middleware.keystone" when trying to start the service. Can anyone please help me. I have looked around the web and other have the same issue. but I see no real success
[04:18] <jpmh> urlin2u: how do I know which one I can give up, I assume that one is Windoze and one is Windoze recovery, correct.?
[04:18] <RokcStar> anyone want to help. i am trying to install an application that i downloaded. there are files such as configure.ac, autogen.sh and makefile.am. How can i use these files to install the app?
[04:19] <salty> RokcStar, is there a README file in there?
[04:20] <RokcStar> yes but its empty
[04:21] <salty> well the simplest way to see is to run through your basic build commands
[04:21] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, it has an I/o error on a certain sector. maybe try whiping the ssd and do a fresh install ?
[04:21] <urlin2u> jpmh, you probably have a firmware and a boot partition and the recovery and windows install. generally the boot or firmware can be removed, but they can be be anywhere on the hard drive and are rather small. Trying to guide you way ahead of time completely is not the best method, other then to give you the general info.
[04:21] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: im on the second install tonight :(. First one ended up the same way, I fscked it and it didnt go anywhere so I did a second install
[04:22] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, is ubuntu the only thing on it ?
[04:22] <urlin2u> jpmh, in other words without seeing the HD itself with a screenshot of gparted makes it harder to help.
[04:22] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: I have OSX on another partition
[04:23] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, that works fine im guessing ?
[04:23] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: Yeah. just booted back into it to test
[04:23] <Guest42229> Hi
[04:23] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, yea could be something with ext4 cause I do see something about -30 error on your macbook picture but I can't find anything about that online....
[04:24] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, what software *must* you use 10.04 for ?
[04:24] <xMopx> Hmm. So reinstall using EXT2 (or 3)
[04:24] <salty> RokcStar, usually the files that are extracted are used for build and/or installation of that app
[04:24] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: Rivendell
[04:24] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, whats that?
[04:24] <jpmh> urlin2u: I see the small one - realistically it is obvious - the big one is widoze and the second is named as windoze recovery - so do I just convert the one that was the boot to an extended one - and resize?
[04:25] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, there is no reason ext4 shouldn't work on your system. did you let ubuntu auto partition it ?
[04:25] <urlin2u> jpmh, without a screen shot I am very uncomfortable beyond this point to be honest.
[04:25] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: Rivendell is an audio automation system. Its what some radio stations and internet radio use to control audio/imaging/ads.
[04:26] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: And I did not, I did it manually. Made the one partition, set it as ext4, checked to format it, and set mount as /.
[04:26] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, and is rivendell not in the repos for 11.10 or something ?
[04:26] <cpgo> salty: I installed the deb for 10.10 and it worked. My fonts dont look the same in 10.04 still (compared to my other pc running 10.10 - may actually be 11.04). Is there any other package I need to upgrade to get the new truetype rendering in 10.04?
[04:26] <jpmh> I am fine - i know which one - I know how to re-size - but how do I convert the one I do not need?
[04:27] <salty> cpgo let me see
[04:27] <urlin2u> jpmh, your self confidence is great but I have rules about advising without solid info.
[04:28] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: yeah. its not in the official repos, theres one out there (tryphron or something ) that has 10.04 packages
[04:28] <jpmh> urlin2u: lol - ty - your advise is all I needed I see how to convert - ty
[04:29] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, you could always just try to let ubuntu auto partition it should work next to osx ( and you could probably build rivendell from source on 11.10 ) im really not sure why it's not working. maybe to do with being a macbook somehow on 10.04 but I thought they worked fine.
[04:29] <salty> cpgo which package was that again that you installed?
[04:29] <cpgo> salty: libfreetype6
[04:29] <robin0800> cpgo: if you install gnome-tweak-tool you can set font properties
[04:30] <salty> there you go...  try that cpgo
[04:30] <xMopx> MahaVishnu: yeah its weird. Ill see what I can get working on another version tomorrow
[04:30] <cpgo> robin0800: is that for Smoothing/Hinting settings?
[04:30] <xMopx> I gotta go to bed. Thanks for the help, MahaVishnu !
[04:30] <robin0800> cpgo: yes
[04:30] <MahaVishnu> xMopx, no problem. hope you get it workng.
[04:31] <cpgo> robin0800: is that different from Appeareance->Fonts->Details?
[04:31] <urlin2u> jpmh, here is a excellent website, just be aware that if you remove the boot partition you want to install the correct boot files from a windows 7 recovery or install disc to the C partition.  http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/index.html
[04:32] <Learner> hi, my computer crashes when launching 11.10  gives me: "Busy Box V.1.1.17.1 built-in shell (ash)"
[04:32] <robin0800> cpgo: this is for 11.10 you perhaps don't need this there is no appearance/fonts in 11.10
[04:32] <urlin2u> jpmh, we have a script you can run that will show what is where and how the boot files sit now for windows if you want.
[04:33] <RokcStar> oh man now i cant log into my profile!
[04:33] <RokcStar> its so weird! my password is not working...
[04:35] <urlin2u> RokcStar, you the only profile
[04:36] <Learner> hi, im having some issues...  my computer crashes when launching 11.10  gives me: "Busy Box V.1.1.17.1 built-in shell (ash)" does anybody know what it means?
[04:36] <RokcStar> i think so i only set one username when i installed xubuntu
[04:36] <RokcStar> i can see my username but my password doesnt work now
[04:37] <cpgo> robin0800: yea, Im on 10.04 and I want the same font rendering that 10.10+ has (after truetype patents expired)
[04:37] <urlin2u> !password
[04:38] <salty> cpgo have you done an update and have you allowed all the repositories to be used?
[04:38] <abraoximenes> hello
[04:39] <urlin2u> RokcStar, here is a reset link. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[04:40] <idlemind324> lol only seeing your response urlin2u i was omg phishing
[04:40] <idlemind324> but it's not
[04:42] <cpgo> salty: adding 10.10 repos to 10.04?
[04:42] <cpgo> or the multiverse/etc repos?
[04:43] <RokcStar> oh hey Guest accounts works
[04:43] <salty> no... cpgo alot of times when you install something the dependencies will be added on the next update ... and some times the dependencies are in the universe multiverse and/or backport repositories
[04:44] <Socket-> Hey guys I have a mounted virtual disk: /dev/sdb1 on /media/DATA type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,allow_other,blksize=4096)  and I wondered if I should ever do maintaince on it. Does it need to be fsck'd or defragged or anything? I dont know  alot abou the fuseblk filesystem
[04:45] <RokcStar> ok now this is weird...
[04:46] <RokcStar> i clicked Lock on the guest account and now its asking for a passowrd but ..i dont know it..
[04:46] <cpgo> salty: ok, sec
[04:46] <RokcStar> the username is guest-CTR7Ce
[04:47] <arooni-mobile> i have a huge folder of bit torrent downloads.  is there some way to know which are video files and filter them?  i.e. a video library app etc?  i have ebooks/audio/video in there
[04:48] <RokcStar> what in the world is going on with ubuntu these days i cant go back in from the screensaver onto the guest account that i clicked to go in because i couldnt go into my main profile??
[04:48] <RokcStar> oh nooo
[04:49] <salty> RokcStar, did you install something new?
[04:49] <RokcStar> i was installing a clock application then i restarted
[04:50] <Folklore> ps isn't showing all processes
[04:50] <Folklore> anyone know why?
[04:50] <RokcStar> this is soo weird. why doesnt a guest user ask for a password
[04:52] <salty> Folklore, try 'ps aux'
[04:52] <RokcStar> i hate this
[04:53] <Folklore> thx
[04:53] <salty> yw
[04:54] <RokcStar> the screensaver is saying "i assume that null passwords means no password" but im trying to tell it why its even asking for a password when i didnt even put one to log into the guest account inthe first place..this is so stupid
[04:55] <TheExplorer> Hello Question for anyone who understands LVM and "Soft"-Raid: Is there a way to nest disk images in a RAID0, to provide 1 of 3 redundancy?
[04:55] <RokcStar> this definitely looks like a design flaw of xubuntu
[04:55] <urlin2u> RokcStar, I doubt it.
[04:55] <RokcStar> then can you tell me why this is happening?
[04:56] <salty> !password | RokcStar
[04:56] <RokcStar> i clicked guest account and it let me in and after i clicked lock screen it asks me for a password and now its saying wrong password
[04:56] <urlin2u> RokcStar, I can't because I don't know every tweak you have made I suspect you don't either, do a hard shutdown and change the passwd in your account, or think maybe when you could not get in the caps lock might have been on.
[04:57] <urlin2u> RokcStar, why would you go to the guest and hit the lock screen when your own personal pasword was not working that makes no sense . :D
[04:58] <salty> RokcStar, i have seen where peolpe accidently put spaces before the password and didn't know it
[04:58] <RokcStar> i havent done anything i only just installed xubuntu
[04:58] <RokcStar> then i updated it then i tried installing a clock app
[04:58] <bf4648> what's the best torrent in ubuntu?
[04:58] <urlin2u> !best | bf4648
[04:59] <bf4648> as a bot?
[04:59] <bf4648> huh?
[04:59] <poz> i love you ubottu
[04:59] <salty> lol.. me too
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> bf4648: just use whatever you like within the limits of your system
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> bf4648: or use rtorrent. :)
[04:59] <poz> I have a problem
[05:00] <RokcStar> ok now i am hitting restart and then i click Restart again when the window pops up and it just goes back to the login
[05:00] <urlin2u> bf4648, that is the channel bot, the 3 most choose in ubuntu are deluge, transmission, or vuze
[05:00] <RokcStar> ...grrrr
[05:00] <aeon-ltd> poz: ask, all in one line
[05:00] <poz> my wireless will not work
[05:00] <TheExplorer> ext4 for lvm-raid?
[05:00] <bf4648> well, honestly...a friend of mine recommended me one but I can't find where I wrote it down
[05:00] <poz> its grayed out
[05:00] <poz> i want to go "wireless enable" but its gray
[05:00] <poz> i am using ubuntu 11.1
[05:00] <salty> poz , is your wireless enabled?
[05:00] <poz> no
[05:00] <poz> im plugged in right now
[05:01] <RokcStar> my password is not working. my guest account locked me out. the restart and shutdown options dont even do what theyr'e supposed to..this is so strange...
[05:01] <bf4648> ok, I'm new...deluge, transmission or vuze...are they torrents?
[05:01] <poz> i dont know what to say RokcStar. I am new here
[05:01] <urlin2u> bf4648, they are torrent apps
[05:02] <RokcStar> ok i will unplug the power cord...will that ruin the system???
[05:02] <bf4648> looks like I can download them from ibtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/Download
[05:02] <twocarlo> whats the process name of firestarter firewall ?
[05:03] <RokcStar> does unplugging the machine ruin ubuntu?
[05:04] <bf4648> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTorrent -- interesting
[05:04] <CoolStar> RokcStar: Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+f1
[05:05] <nrdb> atm the <alt> key can be used to drag a window without using the title bar... the key used, could be configured in previous versions   , I can't find anywhere to change it with this new install... With ccsm I completly disabled the 'Move Window' plugin... in gconf-editor I found some entries for compiz->move, I changed those... but the <alt> can still move the window... how do I change the key or turn it off all together?
[05:06] <urlin2u> nrdb, you might try #compiz
[05:06] <nrdb> urlin2u, ok
[05:06] <urlin2u> nrdb, what you want is a bit cutom I think.
[05:06] <urlin2u> custom*
[05:07] <MahaVishnu> trying to use an nvidia gefore 430 gt w/ an integrated intel 915. can someone help me set this up? right now I only see the monitor connected via vga from the 915 and no X. im sure I need so edit Xorg but not sure what to do.
[05:09] <CoolStar> Does Ubuntu 11.10 have support for OpenCL?
[05:09] <CoolStar> I know it has OpenGL and OpenAL, but I want to know about OpenCL
[05:12] <urlin2u> CoolStar, not sure if this answers your question. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNTg
[05:12] <RokcStar> ok guys i unplugged my system but now ubuntu gets stuck
[05:12] <sgo11> hi, which application do people use to store their passwords? thanks.
[05:12] <RokcStar> all i have to say is..wow
[05:13] <urlin2u> RokcStar, funny that is what I have been saying, just out of curiosity how long have yo been using open source?
[05:13] <urlin2u> you*
[05:13] <RokcStar> i really want to be good on ubuntu and not be a noob but if ihave to go and read so many articles to fix my password and then to fix my startup problems idont think ican ever actually use it :/
[05:14] <nrdb> urlin2u, costom! .... all I want to do is change the default key... it was easy to do before 'unity'
[05:15] <RokcStar> url i used to use ubuntu when version 7 came out but now everything looks so different
[05:16] <urlin2u> nrdb, compiz is a plugin in the unity desktop, I'm sure what you want is possible, I have just never seen anybody ask for it specifically, you have to have some patience and good google foo.
[05:16] <RokcStar> and i never learned commands and now with the new versions even the menus are not the same so i always feel stupid on this even to change something little ihave to go read articles
[05:17] <urlin2u> RokcStar, maybe its not for you, it does take a bit of patitnce and getting used to.
[05:17] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  Is there a way to list all sshfs directories currently mounted  on the local system?
[05:17] <urlin2u> patience*
[05:18] <mattscloud> Wddup geeks :D
[05:20] <RokcStar> im not giving up
[05:20] <RokcStar> i dont want to deal with windows anymore everything is a virus nowadays
[05:21] <JokesOnYou77> RokcStar: Never give up! never surrender!
[05:21] <RokcStar> even flash drives get viruses the computer world is so stupid now
[05:22] <JokesOnYou77> RokcStar: http://hak5.org/usb-switchblade
[05:22] <JokesOnYou77> Flash drives ARE viruses :)
[05:26] <MahaVishnu> trying to use an nvidia gefore 430 gt w/ an integrated intel 915. can someone help me set this up? right now I only see the monitor connected via vga from the 915 and no X. im sure I need so edit Xorg but not sure what to do.
[05:27] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: This is likely far beyond my ability, but I'll give it a shot as it seems pretty quiet at the moment.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:28] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: 11.10
[05:29] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: Ok.  And you can't get X to start at all?
[05:30] <Abhijit> hi. kernel panic init not found error for kubuntu iso from usb. help
[05:30] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: nah it just goes back to the tty7 right now hold on ill paste my xorg.
[05:30] <JokesOnYou77> kk
[05:32] <poz> salty!
[05:32] <poz> its not working
[05:32] <poz> does anyone here know how to unblock wireless?
[05:32] <Nurse_Kun> So, I want to use the Play framework for Java, yet there's already this other program called 'play' with that namespace for audio stuff in Ubuntu
[05:32] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: I'm using an NVidia card now, but I've never tried to use dual cards, and definitely not with an intel integrated card.  You want an extended screen, not a separate x-session on each, right?
[05:33] <w30> MahaVishnu, I got mine going by having jockey installed. It finds additional propriatory drivers for Nvidia cards and has a green button to install what it finds.
[05:33] <poz> MahaVishnu, your here?!
[05:33] <poz> i have a problem
[05:33] <Nurse_Kun> How can I uninstall the audio 'play' so I don't have a conflict with the framework Play
[05:33] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: hold on a minute im finishing it up.
[05:34] <poz> so i have a wireless card in my laptop, it worked the other day. not it does not. the option to enable it is grayed out
[05:34] <poz> now*
[05:34] <JokesOnYou77> w30: Did you get it to work with multiple cards?  I installed the proprietary drivers as well, but I'm afraid that would only complicate things as Maha is trying to get a dual setup going
[05:35] <JokesOnYou77> poz: I know this is silly, but have you tried restarting? Always works wonders for me
[05:36] <poz> jokesonyou77, yes, many times
[05:36] <dr_willis> poz you havent used any wireless on/off switch on the keybord?
[05:36] <poz> i even undid and redid the stuff mahavishnu told me to do the other day to fix a boot problem
[05:36] <poz> I have a wireless on/ off switch on my keybored. it also fails to work
[05:36] <JokesOnYou77> try ifconfig and see if you have a wireless interface listed
[05:37] <poz> it is listed
[05:37] <poz> wait
[05:37] <poz> its not listed there
[05:37] <poz> but if i do iwconfig, it is listed
[05:37] <dr_willis> poz on some laptops ive had to go to windows. use the switch to make sure its on and works. then it would work in linux
[05:37] <poz> poz@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig
[05:37] <poz> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:e0:91:36:b4:0e
[05:37] <poz>           inet addr:192.168.1.25  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[05:37] <poz>           inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:91ff:fe36:b40e/64 Scope:Link
[05:37] <poz>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[05:37] <poz>           RX packets:239 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[05:37] <FloodBot1> poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: http://paste.ubuntu.com/767/596
[05:38] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: "The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist. " ???
[05:39] <poz> can i talk now?
[05:39] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: 767596 sorry
[05:39] <MahaVishnu> can barely see anything on irssi
[05:39] <poz> so did that work?
[05:39] <w30> MahaVishnu, ahh... you want one monitor for each card and use them both at the same time.  Gheeze.. I don't know if you can mix up a intel and a Nvidia driver.
[05:40] <MahaVishnu> w30: I want like one screen for tty ( the intel ) and the other nvidia ( hdmi tv ) for X
[05:40] <poz> that sounds complicated mahavishnu
[05:40] <MahaVishnu> poz: I know its my crown jewel in my setup ;\
[05:40] <poz> thanks dr_willis, ill try that
[05:40] <Nurse_Kun> can you do that MahaVishnu ?
[05:40] <Nurse_Kun> have one display of the tty on a screen and the other with X ?
[05:40] <MahaVishnu> idk. I don't see why not?
[05:41] <poz> why would you want it like that mahavishnu?
[05:41] <Nurse_Kun> well, how would you associate the tty to the right monitor...
[05:41] <MahaVishnu> poz: cause I plau xbox on my tv ( but I can run my music from a tty with ncmpccp) so I don;'t have to switch back and forth on my tv to see what music is playing.
[05:41] <poz> whats a tty?
[05:41] <poz> oh i see
[05:42] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: Ok, I've actually seen a forum post with someone trying to do exactly what you're asking, and when I read it there was no successful conclusion, but I'll bet it is possible with a little jimmying
[05:42] <Nurse_Kun> anyone know how to fix the namespace issue with play and play?
[05:42] <Nurse_Kun> java play and sound play that is
[05:42] <JokesOnYou77> wait, couldn't you just stream music to your xbox with vuze?
[05:42] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77:lol thats not at all what I wan't to do.
[05:42] <poz> or buy an mp3 player?
[05:43] <MahaVishnu> my ubuntu computer is a pre amp for my amplifier.
[05:43] <poz> lol sorry, that was a bad joke
[05:43] <canthus13> bah. what's the command to show the hardware inventory? not lspci or lsusb.. the really involved one.
[05:43] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: Ahhhh, ok then.  this is getting more and more interesting...
[05:44] <Nurse_Kun> canthus13: /proc/ ?
[05:44] <Nurse_Kun> it has lots of stuff in there ...
[05:44] <Nurse_Kun> cat /proc/cpuinfo for ex
[05:44] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: how so? the audio part is really unrelated matter.
[05:44] <Nurse_Kun> or cat /proc/
[05:44] <canthus13> Nurse_Kun: There's a command that pulls things like motherboard specs and capabilities, etc.
[05:45] <poz> so basically you have two monitors and you want a specific graphics card to be associated with each one?
[05:45] <researcher> how do I knwo how much RAM I have? Please teach me that command line
[05:45] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: Well, the first step is really getting it to work at all, right? Then we would need to get a separate X server running on each card, or really on just the NVidia, right
[05:45] <canthus13> Nurse_Kun: I might be able to dig what I need out of /proc/, but this command is much neater.
[05:45] <goddard> whats up
[05:46] <sgo11> In ubuntu software center, what is the number inside the brackets after the software name? eg: VLC Media Player (688)
[05:46] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: I really don't know. from what i've seen my xorg should work I thought. we need an expert.
[05:46] <canthus13> lshw. that's it.
[05:47] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: Well..this isn't exactly expert, but I did catch some spelling errors
[05:47] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: me too fixed em. such a small screen here. looking at it on my laptop now
[05:48] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: you fixed, EmdSubSection, and the missing quotes on line 71?
[05:48] <poz> wait, you guys are not experts?
[05:48] <JokesOnYou77> poz: not even close :P
[05:48] <poz> compared to me you guys are
[05:49] <JokesOnYou77> poz: there are some people who have done some serious work with X, and I am definitely not one of them :P
[05:49] <poz> how much work can be done on a letter?
[05:50] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: yea still doesn't work
[05:50] <JokesOnYou77> poz: The X-server is the program that creates the graphical user interface (GUI) for linux
[05:51] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: I am usually pretty good at X but like you said this is complicated and I don't know for certain if it's possible.
[05:52] <poz> oh i see, and tty?
[05:53] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: well, I'm not sure about getting X to run on only one card, but even if you cant, you can always run a single X session across both and then put a term on the laptop, right?  Or does that not work either?  And is there anything enlightening in the Xorg log?
[05:53] <cpgo> in compiz, if i remember correctly, there was a way to have a window resize to different portions of the screen (half width left, half width right, top, bottom, etc). Anyone know what its called?
[05:54] <JokesOnYou77> poz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tty_%28Unix%29
[05:54] <w30> MahaVishnu, I would think you would need two keyboards also. the Display command would be used to set things up.  DISPLAY 0:1  and Display 1:1 comes into my mind but the only thing I have ever done is set up X on my one monitor on a different tty.
[05:54] <JokesOnYou77> poz: it's also used to refer to a virtual terminal iirc
[05:55] <JokesOnYou77> cpgo: It's something like "grid" I think.  If you search for "Aero snap in Ubuntu" it will probably come up
[05:55] <poz> thanks
[05:56] <sasank> hi,guys
[05:56] <poz> cpgo, i just drag the window to which ever side i want. it resizes itself
[05:56] <MahaVishnu> w30: can I switch between the two cards then, like if i'm done on the tv switch to monitor somehow ?
[05:56] <sasank> how can we do game programming
[05:56] <cpgo> poz.. in ubuntu?
[05:57] <cpgo> thanks JokesOnYou77
[05:57] <poz> yes. its like windows 7
[05:57] <ryanCH> sasank: we do it, that' how.
[05:57] <ryanCH> :)
[05:57] <JokesOnYou77> cpgo: I see in my ccsm that it is indeed called grid
[05:57] <JokesOnYou77> cpgo: welcome :)
[05:57] <sasank> which language is required
[05:57] <cpgo> i guess its in the extras package, I dont see it
[05:57] <ryanCH> sasank: pretty much any language can be used...
[05:58] <ryanCH> sasank: C++ usually is used.
[05:58] <cpgo> poz, doesnt work for me out of the box
[05:58] <JokesOnYou77> Now that some people are here, can anyone tell me if there is a command that will list all directories currently mounted on the local machine usinf sshfs?
[05:58] <w30> MahaVishnu, I am sure that it's done all the time on mainframes but Lord knows I am not the one to help you.
[05:58] <poz> cpgo, humm... i dunno then. i have only been using ubuntu for a few days now
[05:58] <ryanCH> sasank: using openGL or Allegro or SDL or DirectX for graphics libraries
[05:59] <sasank> recently i had downloaded a game file and after installin it said it required a .net environment, where can i get
[05:59] <cpgo> poz, its cool, glad its working for you :)
[05:59] <goddard> where can i ask about Nvidia issues?
[05:59]  * goddard has NVIDIA ISSUES!! ARGHH!!11!
[05:59] <poz> i would like a show desktop button somewhere through. minimizing many windows is annoying
[06:00] <ryanCH> sasank: you need the .net framework...  http://www.microsoft.com/net
[06:00] <cpgo> poz, there is
[06:00] <cpgo> default bottom left
[06:00] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: you can ask here, but it looks like were a bit thin on high-power X-server expertise tonight
[06:00] <poz> ubuntu 11.1?
[06:00] <cpgo> ah
[06:00] <cpgo> unity?
[06:00] <sasank> i need a single compiler where i can run programs of my hice or which supports any language,what is it
[06:00] <JokesOnYou77> ryanCH: can you use the .net environment in *nix?
[06:00] <w30> poz, see if you have a panel applet for show desktop.
[06:00] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: with mono, yes
[06:01] <poz> i dont know what unity is. but sometimes i see it in the help file saying that "unity does 'this"
[06:01] <JokesOnYou77> iceroot: mono?
[06:01] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: or with wine and the real .net-thing
[06:01] <iceroot> !mono | JokesOnYou77
[06:01] <MahaVishnu> trying to use an nvidia gefore 430 gt w/ an integrated intel 915. can someone help me set this up? right now I only see the monitor connected via vga from the 915 and no X. im sure I need so edit Xorg but not sure what to do.
[06:01] <w30> poz, add it if it shows one.
[06:01] <ryanCH> JokesOnYou77: it allows you to tun .NET apps on linux
[06:01] <poz> what is a panel applet? w38
[06:01] <iceroot> JokesOnYou77: hm, mono is the open-source implementation of .net
[06:01] <ryanCH> JokesOnYou77: mono
[06:01] <cpgo> poz, I guess thats why your window reszing works, must be a feature in unity
[06:02] <poz> oh, yeah, that might be in
[06:02] <w30> poz right click on your panel and look for add
[06:02] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Mono works great, although WinForms support is somewhat lacking (say, automatic clipboard operations do not work)
[06:02] <JokesOnYou77> Cool, thanks guys.  Linux just gets better and better lol.  Now all I need to do is properly rewrite fstab and turn my Win7 partition into a vmdk and I never have to boot directly into Windows again :)
[06:02] <ryanCH> i just stick with Java ;p
[06:02] <sasank> learning ython or c?which is easy
[06:02] <poz> w38, is the panel the thing that slides out on the left? nothing happends when i right click it
[06:03] <ryanCH> sasank: you want C++, not C
[06:03] <ryanCH> sasank: and not python. (interpreted language)
[06:03] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: ive been trying to get ubuntu to work since 10.xx
[06:03] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: You don't have to turn it into a vmdk
[06:03] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: VirtualBox can boot real drives
[06:03] <ryanCH> sasank: are you running Windows or Linux?
[06:04] <sasank> linux
[06:04] <goddard> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display
[06:04] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: I looked into that. From what I understand, running from a real partition requires first converting to a vmdk
[06:04] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: ^^ thats my question
[06:04] <theadmin> ryanCH: What's wrong with Python? It works great as a newbie language, though I'd suggest Ruby or Perl
[06:04] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: No, it doesn't, it boots... a partition >.<
[06:04] <sasank> what is trouble shooting
[06:04] <w30> poz, oops, sorry. I forgot that you are using unity. Just switch to a new desktop.
[06:05] <ryanCH> theadmin: sasank is looking for a good Game programming language
[06:05] <poz> i guess i could get into that habit
[06:05] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda -filename ~/sda.vdi (next, use "sda.vdi" as your vm's hard drive. It will boot from what is infact /dev/sda)
[06:05] <ryanCH> theadmin: compiled languages are much easier in this area ;p
[06:05] <iceroot> sasank: if you dont know anything about programing dont start with a game. also its off-topic here
[06:05] <theadmin> ryanCH: oic
[06:05] <poz> so i have another thing i want to do. i want to access my windows 7 drive safly. is this possible?
[06:05] <theadmin> sasank: You probably want GameEditor or some stuff like that if you're so new to it
[06:06] <theadmin> poz: Um, yes, Ubuntu comes with NTFS drivers
[06:06] <ryanCH> sasank: yeah start by learning C++ then go on to other things...
[06:06] <w30> poz I like rollup windows. I can look behind them that way also
[06:06] <sasori> OT: wichi is smaller 1.2mm or 1.6mm ?
[06:06] <theadmin> um, 1.2, duh
[06:06] <sasori> k, thanks l
[06:06] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: I would actually start by disabling unity.  I know some people like it, but I honestly can't stand it.  Though first I'd see if there are any proprietary drivers available, and if that doesn't fix it, try installing Xfce and using that and see if the problem persists
[06:06] <iceroot> !ot | sasori
[06:06] <cpgo> i thought that was a trick question lol
[06:07] <sasank> i need a single compiler where i can run programs of any language?where can i get
[06:07] <theadmin> sasank: Sorry, does not exist
[06:07] <iceroot> sasank: there is nothing like that
[06:07] <cpgo> sasank, netbeans has a wide range of languages
[06:07] <w30> poz,  I switched from Unity to xfce4 to avoid being associated with that abortion.
[06:08] <dpuser07> how is yesterday voteing
[06:08] <poz> w38, what abortion?
[06:08] <sasank> where can i get net beans
[06:08] <theadmin> cpgo: netbeans ain't a compiler
[06:08] <Cyph3r> what's the name of the off-topic channel, again?
[06:08] <dr_willis> !ide
[06:08] <theadmin> Cyph3r: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:08] <poz> what cant people stand about unity jokesonyou77?
[06:08] <Cyph3r> @theadmin, thanks
[06:08] <cpgo> theadmin, its an ide, i know, but thats what I assumed he meant
[06:08] <theadmin> lol since when vim is classified as an ide?
[06:09] <dr_willis> please no unity ranting...
[06:09] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: can we go over that one again, slowly?  And, if there anything I need to do if my windows partition is currently mounted (and while running it also has access to a shared data partition)?
[06:09] <keepguessing> Hi ... I am trying to remote login into ubuntu 11.10 using nxclient[No Machine]. But All I see is a black screen that is not responsive. Has anyone successfully logged in into the UI of ubuntu 11.10 unity using No Machine / vnc?
[06:09] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Nah you need to unmount the partition for it to be bootable (actually, usable) in virtualbox
[06:09] <sasank> can a simulation be written in a programmin language
[06:10] <dr_willis> keepguessing:  with vnc i tend to use a light wm/desktop like lxde
[06:10] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: So I also suggest adding a -partitions flag so it doesn't read the whole drive and only the partitions you need (like "... -partitions 5,3,2")
[06:10] <poz> theadmin, how can i get ubuntu to show my windows 7 files safely? some forums warn me that if ubuntu crashes while the windows 7 drive is mounted, it permanently damages windows 7
[06:10] <theadmin> poz: Nonsense
[06:10] <JokesOnYou77> poz: A lot of more experienced users feel that it is too much gui and that it separates them from the more powerful utilities of the linux OS
[06:10] <dr_willis> sasank:  most all things are writen in some programing language
[06:10] <w30> poz, UNITY. I don't want to use it for the  5 years it is taking them to make it work right.
[06:10] <MahaVishnu> does anyone know if it is possible to run Xorg on 2 video cards simultaneously (different screens)
[06:10] <keepguessing> dr_willis: thanks let me see if it works :)
[06:10] <Brian6705> I'm using Kubuntu and I have the little network traffic monitor on my desktop.  I'm noticing a steady ~50 KiB inbound traffic.  I can't figure out for the life of me what is causing it.  I just rebooted in hopes it was a phantom connection. How can I figure this out?
[06:10] <sasank> i need  netbeans in offline ?where can i get
[06:11] <Cyph3r> Question: I'm configuring CCSM, and I've run into a problem I've never gotten before...i have the "cube" until I enable "Cube reflection and deformation", where it turns into a cylinder (even though the mode is set to "None", which is the cube)
[06:11] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  should be possible
[06:11] <iceroot> sasank: from there website
[06:11] <theadmin> Brian6705: Um, netstat might help
[06:11] <poz> lol oh i see
[06:11] <fish__> Hello! How can i remove or hide the dash in 11.10?
[06:11] <theadmin> fish__: You need to change Unity to another desktop, e.g. XFCE
[06:11] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: can you look at my xorg and tell me what im doing wrong ?
[06:12] <poz> i am not sure what unity is, but so far i like ubuntu
[06:12] <Brian6705> theadmin, thanks.  I knew I was forgetting something simple
[06:12] <sachin1112> i am having network problems with my ununtu 1.04
[06:12] <sachin1112> ca anyone help?
[06:12] <poz> me too sachin1112
[06:12] <poz> but i can not help
[06:12] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: ok, the windows system partition is set to automount at boot, it's at /windows, how do I unmount?
[06:12] <fish__> theadmin: How? Im kinda new with Ubuntu.
[06:12] <sasank> are any competitions based on any programmin language held
[06:12] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  most likely i wont be able to tell. i just used the nvidia settings tool normally
[06:13] <keepguessing> dr_willis: I see that lxde is a complete different desktop environment. I wanted to know if something worked with unity/kubuntu.
[06:13] <theadmin> fish__: Meh then, I suggest you just download and install Xubuntu, will work better for you
[06:13] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: when I enable my intel chip in the bios, ubuntu makes it take over ( i had a config from nvidia-tool ) and it uses the intel chip and I get no X
[06:13] <A_J> *waves at dr_willis / theadmin *
[06:13] <cpgo> does anyone know which packages are responsible for font rendering (besides libfreetype6)?
[06:13] <theadmin> yo A_J
[06:13] <sasank> does simulation programs require any hardware intrepreter
[06:13] <theadmin> cpgo: xft probably
[06:13] <theadmin> cpgo: Or whatever the package is called
[06:13] <iceroot> sasank: its offtopic here as already said
[06:14] <theadmin> cpgo: And xfs (the X Font Server)
[06:14] <poz> who is going to help me get my windows 7 files mounted?
[06:14] <dr_willis> keepguessing:  a lot of the time its the special compisiting effects of unity and kde, that can break and slow down vnc and nx. thats why i use lxde on them
[06:14] <MahaVishnu> poz: look up /etc/fstab windows 7
[06:14] <theadmin> poz: wtf is your problem anyway? mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdxy /media/win
[06:15] <poz> theadmind is mean :(
[06:15] <garden92> anyone know where i can download vmware player 4 for linux?
[06:15] <cpgo> thank you theadmin
[06:15] <sasank> what's difference btwn writin pograms and coding programs
[06:15] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  if you are using one of those optimus nvidia/intel combo laptops.. ive no ideas. you are lucky they even work at all. ;)
[06:15] <theadmin> sasank: None, bah, ask somewhere else, this is NOT related to Ubuntu
[06:15] <iceroot> sasank: stop offtopic here!!
[06:15] <theadmin> Jeebus
[06:15] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: no its a desktop . intel core i3. integrated 915 video / nvidia gefore gt430 hdmi pciexpress.
[06:15] <theadmin> (s)he's annoying >.<
[06:16] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  ive only done it with 2 nvidia cards
[06:16] <iceroot> sasank: #programming, ##c++, ##c, #python, #perl, #bash, #java
[06:16] <keepguessing> dr_willis: giving ur suggestion a try :)
[06:16] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: fair enough. but why does the intel chip take over causing me to lose any X at all when I enable it in the bios, thus not allowing me to use nvidia-tool or whatever.
[06:17] <dr_willis> keepguessing:  i vnc using lxde all the time. not like i need fancy desktop for a vnc session
[06:17] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  no idea
[06:17] <sasank> does bootin any operatin system in pc requires some procedure
[06:17] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: ok. guess its just like someone told me before it's not compatible to use intel+nvidia modules? anyway thanks for the info. ill have to try again some time.
[06:17] <theadmin> sasank: It needs a bootloader
[06:17] <poz> poz@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdxy /media/win
[06:17] <poz> [sudo] password for poz:
[06:17] <poz> ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/sdxy': No such file or directory
[06:18] <poz> that failed
[06:18] <Peddy> I have deleted the contents of some files, fortunately I have made a backup,  how can I restore those individual files? Thanks!
[06:18] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  i have used onbord nvidia + nvidia pcie card befor
[06:18] <theadmin> poz: Duh, replace "sdxy" with something like "sda1" or whatever your windows partition is
[06:18] <sasank> is it hardware or software
[06:18] <poz> how do i figure out what my windows partition is?
[06:18] <theadmin> poz: Is it labelled?
[06:18] <uday> poz : use dmesg command tofigure the partition
[06:18] <iceroot> poz: depending how you did the backup
[06:18] <dr_willis> !mount | poz
[06:18] <iceroot> poz: sorry wrong nick
[06:18] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: well. I have seperate "device" "screen" and "monitor" sections. but nothing happens when I start lightdm. it just switches me to tty7 where are the x log files kept at again ?
[06:18] <Cyph3r> Question: I'm configuring CCSM, and I've run into a problem I've never gotten before...i have the "cube" until I enable "Cube reflection and deformation", where it turns into a cylinder (even though the mode is set to "None", which is the cube). Any ideas
[06:19] <theadmin> Peddy: What kind of backup?
[06:19] <iceroot> Peddy: depending how you did the backup
[06:19] <dr_willis> MahaVishnu:  /var/log normally
[06:19] <sasank> where can i download netbeans
[06:19] <theadmin> sasank: Their site.
[06:19] <iceroot> sasank: from there website
[06:19] <iceroot> sasank: as already said
[06:19] <Peddy> theadmin, iceroot, It was the included backup tool in 11.10 (I think the backend is duplicity?)
[06:19] <ganimede> poz if you dont know your windows partition number, install gparted to have a look at them
[06:19] <iceroot> Peddy: deja-dup i guess
[06:19] <sasank> is it free
[06:19] <poz> oh ok
[06:19] <theadmin> Peddy: umm... Oh, sorry, I'll pass there, I haven't used Ubuntu since 10.04
[06:20] <Peddy> theadmin, no worries
[06:20] <ganimede> poz but just look, dont mess with that tool
[06:20] <iceroot> Peddy: at restore you can define to put everything in a specal folder, there you can pick up the files you need
[06:20] <Peddy> iceroot, i am looking at that command now
[06:20] <Peddy> iceroot, oh yeah, but I just want one or two files that need to be restored
[06:20] <Peddy> iceroot, and I don't have the hard disk space to make an entire restoration of my home drive
[06:21] <theadmin> sasank: Just google it already and you'll find your answers
[06:21] <iceroot> Peddy: never used the restore-function but as it seems you only can restore everyathing
[06:21] <poz> poz@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/win
[06:21] <poz> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[06:21] <poz> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[06:21] <poz> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[06:21] <FloodBot1> poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <poz> im sorry floodbot1
[06:21] <theadmin> poz: Sounds like this drive is already mounted... Open the filemanager and see if you can find it
[06:21] <Peddy> thanks iceroot. I seem to remember a command in nautilus' context menu when clicking on a file, that was like "restore previous version" - but it's gone now
[06:22] <theadmin> Peddy: Um, you might be confusing nautilus with Windows Explorer
[06:22] <sasank> wher can i get c++
[06:22] <iceroot> sasank: sudo apt-get install g++
[06:22] <poz> i dont know where to find it
[06:22] <theadmin> sasank: You don't "get" c++, you get a c++ compiler. Ubuntu comes with one, it's called g++
[06:22] <ganimede> sasank, install the gcc suite
[06:22] <Peddy> theadmin, nope, I don't run or use windows that much
[06:22] <poz> in the file system somewhere?
[06:23] <theadmin> poz: Um, okay, pastebin the output of "mount | grep /dev/sda2"
[06:23] <ganimede> sasank on a second though, it should be already on your computer. type Ctrl+Alt+T and then "g++ --version"
[06:23] <poz> poz@ubuntu:~$ mount | grep /dev/sda2
[06:23] <poz> /dev/sda2 on /host type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[06:23] <theadmin> poz: There it is, it's in /host
[06:23] <sasank> where can i get gcc suite
[06:23] <iceroot> !repos | sasank
[06:24] <theadmin> sasank: in APT. You were told A THOUSAND OF GODDAMN TIMES
[06:24] <theadmin> Gosh, this is so annoying >.<
[06:24] <theadmin> Offtopic and silly
[06:24] <poz> omg yes!
[06:24] <poz> thanks theadmin!!!
[06:24] <Peddy> theadmin is the best person
[06:24] <ganimede> poz from a console type "locate System32" if it is indexed, will tell you where the partition is mounted (2 levels above)
[06:25] <poz> i found it ganimede. thank you though!
[06:25] <theadmin> Peddy: I ain't, I'm one of the most awful people I know :D
[06:25] <poz> you can be very mean..
[06:25] <sasank> in gsc suite ,can i run c++ programs
[06:25] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: I was looking at the command you gave me, it looks like it is creating some kind of vmdk?
[06:25] <Peddy> theadmin, and humble as well! Truly an ambassador for the Ubuntu community.
[06:25] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: if i wanted to install another desktop enviornment i'd probably just intall OpenSUSE since it makse it so darn simple
[06:25] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: i got the Nvidia drivers istalled
[06:26] <dr_willis> ntfs here is shown using the fuseblk filesystem . not ntfs-3g
[06:26] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: That vmdk (actually, it creates a vdi, I have no idea why it's called "createrawVMDK" >.<) is some sort of a "link" to a real drive
[06:26] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: i can disable unity?
[06:26] <Peddy> Is anyone on 11.10 having issues with the "devices" area disappearing from Nautilus pane?
[06:26] <sasank> ok i found g++ version ,can i run c++ programs here
[06:26] <theadmin> sasank: You can...
[06:26] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: There's definitely a way to just use gnome, but I don't remember how for 11.10.  I'm still on 11.04
[06:27] <somsip> !nounity | goddard
[06:27] <theadmin> Peddy: I ain't humble... I'm crazy... You can PM me if you want to find out more about me :D
[06:27] <sasank> in this it does'nt show run command
[06:27] <ganimede> sasank you may compile them, like g++ myprogram.cpp -o myprogram
[06:27] <cpgo> theadmin, thanks, I found libxft2 and xfstt. Do you know if there are others?
[06:27] <theadmin> sasank: g++ something.cpp -o something.out
[06:27] <ganimede> sasank then run myprogram
[06:27] <theadmin> cpgo: No, unfortunately, sorry
[06:28] <dr_willis> !compile | sasank
[06:28] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: cool!  Do you remember where you got that from and/or what versions of VirtualBox it works with properly?  I'm just paranoid about breaking my systems by messing it up
[06:28] <cpgo> theadmin, ok np, thanks for your time
[06:28] <sasank> whwt is the use of g++
[06:28] <cpgo> compile your code
[06:28] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: All versions starting with 3.x if I recall right, and I got that from the VirtualBox manual :D
[06:28] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: so basically your screwed that is how much Unity is broken?
[06:29] <ganimede> sasank it transform a text file in format cpp source code into a machine code, that your computer may eventually execute
[06:30] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: sweet!  going to try it right now.  One last thing tho, how do I know which number partition(s) to point it to?  I know that windows has some system reserved partition, and then some programs start numbering partitions at 0 and some at 1...
[06:30] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: vbox numbers starting with 0 iirc
[06:30] <ganimede> sasank but if you have such questions, maybe you need to read a good book first. start with C, kernighan/ritchie 'the c programming language second edition'
[06:30] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: not exactly, its just that it takes a fair amount of graphics processing I think.
[06:30] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Not so sure though, let me look it up
[06:31] <sasank> if a text written in g++,how can we delete,where it does'nt happen by pressin backspce key
[06:31] <iceroot> ganimede: that book is from bjarne stroustroup (imo)
[06:31] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: and did you see the ubottu message somsip sent you?
[06:31] <somsip> goddard: nah - just install another WM/DE if you don't like unity. Current score is about 48% keep it, 52% use something else
[06:31] <iceroot> ganimede: the founder of c++
[06:31] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: See section 9.8.1 of the VirtualBox User Manual, "Using a raw host hard disk from a guest"
[06:31] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: you're my hero :)
[06:32] <ganimede> iceroot c++ yes, but seems far too advanced for him
[06:32]  * theadmin gets too many undeserved compliments today
[06:32] <ganimede> iceroot, i have suggested c not c++
[06:32] <node11> hi
[06:32] <iceroot> ganimede: ah sorry you are right
[06:32] <dr_willis> it pays to readthe vbox docs.. ad warnings about doing that trick JokesOnYou77
[06:32]  * cpgo takes back ty's for theadmin
[06:32] <poz> who is theadmin?
[06:33] <cpgo> you know that guy from harry potter whos name they cant say
[06:33] <ganimede> the kernighan-ritchie is more a guide for newcomers, the stroustroup will lose him from chapter 1 with templates and other things. and he never mentions how to compile, btw :D
[06:33] <cpgo> yea, thats him
[06:33]  * theadmin is not a guy at all :P
[06:33] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis: warnings? and which trick?  I
[06:33] <poz> lol
[06:33] <poz> theadmin, what is your age?
[06:33] <cpgo> neither is harry potter, but I get offtopic :P
[06:33] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  using vbox to boot/access a real physical disk
[06:34] <jobud9> this be the ubuntu help channel?
[06:34] <theadmin> poz: Um, this is too private to discuss in the channel. PM me.
[06:34] <theadmin> jobud9: Yes.
[06:34] <poz> this is a help channel?!
[06:34] <nopf> 11.10 standard install (via wubi) ... may i select 'classic ubuntu' or such? and without a mouse?
[06:34] <poz> i thought it was just a place to talk about ubuntu stuff
[06:35] <cpgo> poz try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[06:35] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis: I've read the section of the ducumentation before, but at the time it was a bit over my head, and there was a 4.xx version of VBox that broke this utility and I wasn't particualrly satisfied with what I had heard on the forums for it.  And more importantly, what warnings would you add?
[06:35] <poz> oh
[06:35] <ganimede> nopf try with tabs, spaces and enters. i dont have a virtual partition at hand to try an install right now
[06:36] <nopf> ganimede: oh thanks, that was easy :) ... tab, then space, let me select ubuntu 2d. thanks
[06:36] <ganimede> poz it should be in my opinion, but quickly people that need things ask the community
[06:36] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  last i read the manual they basically said using vbox to access a real physical drive could result in data loss.. i think they even had it in big bold letters.. it was not advised to use that feature
[06:36] <jobud9> well then, I am looking at my half installed copy of ubuntu server, and it is asking me to insert disk labeled "Ubuntu-Server 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20110719.2)" where do I get this file?
[06:36] <pransala1> hi guys. byoby seems to keep crashing on me which is.. highly annoying. where would its logs go so i can see why?
[06:36] <theadmin> dr_willis: It always worked without any trouble for me, but data gets very corrupted if you attempt booting the OS which is the host OS
[06:37] <ganimede> a new kernel just landed
[06:37] <poz> oh ok
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> is ubu10 better than 11?
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> 11 wouldnt install for me
[06:37] <ganimede> may need to reboot in a few second
[06:37] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis: now I remember why I didn't try it before! lol
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> oh, i was trying ubuntu alternate
[06:37] <yamahaalex37> what does that mean
[06:37] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: out of curiosity, have you tried running from a raw partition before?
[06:37] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77:  ive only used it i special rescue cases ;)
[06:37] <nopf> ganimede: hm, this is ubuntu2d only, not classic... better than nothing though
[06:37] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: As stated above: It always worked without any trouble for me, but data gets very corrupted if you attempt booting the OS which is the host OS
[06:38] <poz> i have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...
[06:39] <sasank> i have written a c++ program in g++,where i cannot run ,how can i run my program.there are only file,editview,terminal,help options
[06:39] <theadmin> sasank: g++ file.cpp -o file.out
[06:40] <sasank> wher  can i write this statement
[06:40] <JokesOnYou77> theadmin: so I just need to be very careful about what a point to where when creating the .vdi.  To your knowledge, is there any danger to accessing data on a shared partition with both the VirtualOS and the host?
[06:41] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: umm that requires co-ordination
[06:41] <ganimede> back, new kernel up and running
[06:41] <theadmin> JokesOnYou77: Again, on the host the partition MUST BE UNMOUNTED before it will work in Virtualbox (otherwise it fires an error saying something about "Drive not ready"
[06:41] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77: vbox has a share feature.  for shareing a directory. ;)
[06:41] <nevyn> so vmware has support for a host filesystem thingy (it looks like a network filesystem to the guest)
[06:42] <poz> i have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...
[06:42] <dr_willis> !terminal
[06:43] <JokesOnYou77> The thing is, I use a shared partition, /data (primary NTFS partition) and that's where I keep all of my files, and Virtualizing my Win7 partition won't be particularly useful if I can't get to any of my files without breaking something
[06:43] <sasank> i have written (g++ file.cpp -0 file out),wher my program does'nt run even ,how can i execte my program
[06:44] <jobud9> again, I am looking at my half installed copy of ubuntu server, and it is asking me to insert disk labeled "Ubuntu-Server 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx - Release amd64 (20110719.2)" where do I get this file?
[06:45] <poz> i have a lot of little problems, some of which are: getting the desktop background to change every 15 mins, removing the guest account, removing a few of the indicators at the top right of my screen, ect...
[06:45] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: insert the cd ?
[06:45] <cpgo> sorry to bug you again theadmin, could libcairo have a hand in it?
[06:45] <theadmin> cpgo: Not sure
[06:45] <MahaVishnu> dr_willis: I got it working I think.
[06:45] <ganimede> sasank read the kernighan ritchie. anyway it is -o (o for output) not -0 (zero), and what follows is the name of the output file, without spaces between file and out, and you may remove the out part completely on unix/linux
[06:46] <poz> should i just leave? it seems like everyone else has real problems where i just want to learn about how to do stuff
[06:46] <JokesOnYou77> poz: you should stay!  The more you stick around, the more opportunity you have to learn
[06:46] <JokesOnYou77> MahaVishnu: !!!!! Pleaze post a tutorial somewhere!
[06:46] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: it's asking for the install cd
[06:47] <ganimede> sasank, you are welcome, but trying to do things that need more time and knowledge to be mastered than a quick fix on a chat
[06:47] <JokesOnYou77> nevyn: I think you're being a little over-zelous with your tab-completion
[06:47] <nevyn> JokesOnYou77: oops. sorry
[06:47] <sasank> i feel confusin while readin books
[06:47] <jobud9> my install cd is in the drive
[06:47] <nevyn> jobud9: it's asking for the install cd
[06:48] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: yea I got it working, want to see my  Xorg ?
[06:48] <jobud9> @nevyn if you mean the cd I placed in the drive in the first place, it is there, unless I missed somthing
[06:48] <ganimede> sasank ok, open a private and i will try to guide you
[06:48] <w30> poz, #ubuntu-beginners might give you a slower pace on irc. join that also and switch back and forth.
[06:49] <poz> thanks w38
[06:49] <MahaVishnu> JokesOnYou77: hold on brb switching to xchat.
[06:49] <JokesOnYou77> w30: there's a beginners channel??? wow...
[06:49] <poz> lol sadly none of the beginners know how to find it :P
[06:49] <sasank> while readin programs ,i cannot solve dobts
[06:50] <ganimede> wow, interesting, didnt know about that other channel. i may have jumped the gun
[06:50] <jobud9> where is the install cd?!?!?
[06:50] <ganimede> on your desk
[06:52] <sasank> in linux, how can increase my download speed
[06:52]  * w30 goes off to join #ubuntu-going-to-bed-channel
[06:52] <jobud9> seriously, where is this iso?
[06:52] <ganimede> sasank it is already at the maximum, unlike windows
[06:53] <sasank> how can i run my program in g++ version directl
[06:53] <ganimede> jubud9 if you have downloaded it from www.ubuntu.com you should know, otherwise you can get it there
[06:54] <jobud9> it does not make sense! I have downloaded the disk, and the disk is in the drive! but it is still rejecting the disk
[06:54] <ganimede> sasank pvt me for that
[06:54] <ganimede> have you written a cd using that .iso?
[06:55] <sasank> i have downloded a linux.sh file ,is it a software file
[06:55] <dsnyders> HI all!  What's the best way to ensure that the folder on my home theatre device has the same files as my download folder?  I don't want to overwrite files if they're already there.
[06:55] <goddard> somsip: i like unity what I dont like is the fact it lags
[06:55] <nopf> hm. i had wubi-install, made extra partition, copied everything there, did update-grub2, grub-install /dev/sda, *found* "ubuntu ... /dev/sda7" (the new partition) in grub menu. still i'm in the old (and slow?) wubi system. how to change?
[06:55] <somsip> somsip: I suggested a solution
[06:55] <somsip> goddard: I suggested a solution
[06:55] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: im trying to find a fix to this situation... i have a good graphics processor so I doubt thats the problem
[06:56] <dsnyders> sasank, It is a shell script, most likely.
[06:56] <goddard> somsip: no one is questioning that
[06:56] <cantfixthis> peanut butter
[06:57] <somsip> goddard: then I leave you to chat amongst yourself
[06:57] <sasank> can i run and write my programs in this linux.sh file
[06:57] <cantfixthis> i need help
[06:57] <ganimede> sasank, from the shell type "cat linux.sh | less" the first lines are normally explanatory comments
[06:57] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: and the drivers didn't help?
[06:58] <sasank> can it work in offline mode
[06:58] <cantfixthis> i am trying to undo changes does ubuntu have an undo function like windows system restore
[06:59] <ganimede> dunno what it does and cant find my crystal ball
[06:59] <dsnyders> cantfixthis, I think there is something you can add that will do that, but I don't think it's there by default
[06:59] <cantfixthis> what is it called?
[07:00] <dsnyders> !backup
[07:00] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: yep no help
[07:00] <sasank> what can i do in linux.sh file
[07:00] <goddard> JokesOnYou77: even tweaked the settings to put it on max performance instead of adaptive
[07:00] <cantfixthis> omg i have to read!!??
[07:00] <cantfixthis> grrr
[07:00] <ganimede> i dont have that file, sasank
[07:01] <cantfixthis> i just want apps i can install and click next next next done
[07:01] <tightwork> apt-get install proftpd ... do you want to run inetd? yes. ... start service, fail .. check logs, nothing
[07:02] <JokesOnYou77> goddard: beyond switching to pure gnome, I'm not really sure what to tell you.  One other good diagnostic would be to try a liveCD and see if that gives you the same problem
[07:02] <sasank> i have downloaded a linux.sh file,but i don't know what it's use,please tell me
[07:03] <dsnyders> sasank, what did you download it for?
[07:03] <ganimede> it is a virus, sasank, delete it
[07:03] <sasank> thanks
[07:04] <dsnyders> HI all!  What's the best way to ensure that the folder on my home theatre device has the same files as my download folder?  I don't want to overwrite files if they're already there.
[07:04] <sasank> while i was downloadi netbeans it asked me to download the linux.sh file
[07:04] <JokesOnYou77> Time to check out my new fstab, back in a bit folks!
[07:04] <dsnyders> Is this a job for rsync?
[07:04] <Techdude101> dsnyders: rsync -ruv
[07:05] <sasank> what is the site to get netbeans
[07:05] <dsnyders> Techdude101, Thanks, I'll give that a go...
[07:05] <tightwork> pretty cool ez ubuntu cant even get a ftp server going out of the box
[07:05] <tightwork> smoke more ron
[07:06] <zvention> hello, how do i remove the dash in 11.10?
[07:06] <tightwork> oh september
[07:07] <sasank> what is .net
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> A Microsoft coding thing
[07:08] <ganimede> a competitor of java, ported likewise java into the open community
[07:08] <sasank> what is .net
[07:08] <ganimede> it is a virtual machine that runs pcode
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> !.net
[07:08] <doc|home> anyone know if hard disk UUIDs change between distro versions? e.g. if I install from scratch? I'm expecting they don't
[07:09] <theadmin> doc|home: If you don't format stuff, then it doesn't
[07:09] <theadmin> doc|home: They're stored on the filesystem
[07:09] <theadmin> doc|home: Same for labels :D
[07:09] <doc|home> theadmin: how, in the FAT?
[07:09] <doc|home> theadmin: ok, great, thanks!
[07:09] <ganimede> in the partition table
[07:09]  * doc|home nods, made sense when he said same for labels
[07:09] <doc|home> thanks everyone
[07:10] <theadmin> doc|home: s/he/she/; :P
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> doc|home: good question, i believe not but you can always change fstab in liveCD if it does
[07:10] <doc|home> theadmin: it!
[07:10] <sasank> ok whwt is the use of linux.sh file
[07:11] <Techdude101> sasank: What folder is it in?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> sasank: sounds like a script, but file extensions don't mean much in Linux
[07:12]  * theadmin has finished setting up qingy... Finally a login manager that doesn't need X >.<
[07:13] <A_J> sweet theadmin
[07:13] <sasank> which is better os windows or linux
[07:13] <theadmin> sasank: Whichever works for you
[07:13] <doc|home> sasank: troll fail
[07:13] <theadmin> sasank: They are too different to compare
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> sasank: depends on needs
[07:14] <Ansikt> So, I was thinking of switching my secondary linuxes from Backtrack to Kubuntu, but I want to keep the injection-patched WLAN drivers.  Is it possible to just...copy the kernel modules from one distribution to another?
[07:14] <dsnyders> sasank, which is a better vehicle, a pickup or a sedan.
[07:14] <sasank> too difficult to compare
[07:14] <theadmin> Ansikt: Um, no, I don't think that'd work
[07:14] <tightwork> probably a pickup in the long run, when zombies take over the world
[07:15] <sasank> i need a editor to write programs,where can i get
[07:15] <tightwork> the store bro
[07:15] <tightwork> the store sells text editors
[07:15] <tightwork> ask for it by name
[07:15] <sam22> hail !! people of this channel !
[07:15] <sam22> o/
[07:15] <Ansikt> So, there's no way to copy drivers from one installation to another?  My understanding is that both are derivatives of Ubuntu.
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> sasank: try gedit   for a  coding IDE check the below
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[07:16] <Ansikt> sasank:  There's a whole bunch.  Check out the software-y thing that Ubuntu comes with,
[07:16] <tightwork> Ansikt: all drivers are generally packaged into the dist
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Ansikt:  could try it, its free to try
[07:16] <tightwork> maybe have to probe the module and add it to startup if its a addon card
[07:16] <A_J> sasank Windows Sucks Balls, get Linux
[07:17] <sasank> doe linux os provide any tool for writin and running programs
[07:17] <dsnyders> sasank, linux is not for the faint of heart.  It is for the people who like to take things apart and put them back together.  If you want a shiny, clickity-click experience, then stick with windows.  If you want to get a look at the workings behind the scene, then get linux.
[07:17] <Techdude101> Ansikt: You can download replacement drivers that support injection, trying to find the site now
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> A_j: not in all situations dude
[07:17] <tightwork> man y ou guys cant spot a troll?
[07:17] <Ansikt> tightwork:  Ubuntu provides a module for my card, it jsut doesn't do what I want.
[07:17] <tightwork> welcome to the Internet
[07:18] <sam22> dsnyders with the age of internet learning linux is easier than before. so the only thing he needs is time and patience
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> tightwork: feed til it pops
[07:18] <Ansikt> Techdude101:  The only thing I've found for my card are numerous patches scattered across the internet.  I'm a little bit scared of them, so I'd rather go with what I know works, if possible.
[07:18] <doc|home> sasank: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35h1vp/
[07:18] <doc|home> tightwork: ^
[07:18] <sam22> dsnyders most busy ppl don't have that
[07:18] <A_J> ActionParsnip well unless your playing games, unix all the way. windows starts freezing in about 18 hours. unix uptime 32 days \o/
[07:19] <ganimede> sasank, yes - you have emacs, codeblocks, anjuta, and some few hundred more
[07:19] <tightwork> doc|home: n1
[07:19] <Cyph3r> lol, nice meme, doc
[07:19] <dsnyders> sam22, exactly!  Speaking of which, I need to get up in less than 6 hrs, so goodnight folks!
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> A_j: i look after virtualized sql servers with at least a year uptime
[07:20] <Ansikt> For anyone interested (techdude101), I'm using Atheros' AR928X Card which uses ath9k as a driver
[07:20] <ganimede> but you should stick with microsoft and outlook, and thanks to that powerful tool, ask other people to do it
[07:20] <Techdude101> Ansikt: I think the patches might also be on the live(cd/dvd/usb) of backtrack
[07:21] <sasank> how can i retrieve a password when i have forgotten it , in windows
[07:21] <nrdb> what other than compiz is responsible for move windows on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:21] <naba> sasank, if you are new to programming on Linux, go for Anjuta - it will provide wizards to create much of the initial structures which will help you get started easier.
[07:22] <A_J> ActionParsnip interesting. what OS
[07:22] <Ngevd> Hello!
[07:22] <ganimede> you can replace the corresponding registry file with a known password. there are half a dozen tools that do it
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> sasank: there is a program you can use in ubuntu to wipe the local admin password. Its also on the ultimate boot cd
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> A_j: server 2003 64bit
[07:23] <sasank> how can i do it in windows
[07:23] <ganimede> you cannot. need to boot separately
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> sasank: ask in ##windows for windows support
[07:23] <tightwork> lol
[07:23] <nrdb> A_J, I look after a server (remotely) the only time I have reset it is for kernel updates... apart from a HDD failure about 4 months ago.
[07:24] <sasank> what is trouble shootin
[07:24] <A_J> nrdb, also windows i guess
[07:24] <A_J> ActionParsnip but does windows server have stuff like UNIX such as SSH / VNC
[07:24] <ganimede> nrdb why disk failure? where you using an disk-intensive server on it? normally linux doesnt stress the disks
[07:24] <nrdb> A_J, no ubuntu lts.
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> sasank: www.howtogeek.com/howto/14369/change-or-reset-windows-password-from-a-ubuntu-live-cd/
[07:24] <mysteriousdarren> yes
[07:25] <A_J> lol nrdb yes unix is awesome.
[07:25] <Ansikt> A_J, you mean RDP?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> A_j: just Sql and Rdp
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !info chntpw
[07:25] <nrdb> ganimede, it just failed... fortunatly it was in a raid 1 setup... it was a few years old.
[07:25] <A_J> hmm, ActionParsnip but what do you think unix is more powerful ?
[07:26] <nopf> how can i open a mp4 file with console-mplayer using the gui? that is, how to enter '/path/to/program' in 'open with' context menu?
[07:26] <ganimede> i have my 2 disks (ssd) in raid0... i am a bit worried
[07:26] <Techdude101> Ansikt: The patches come with aircrack-ng
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> A_j: in different situations each OS will shine. All our ESX boxes run ESX Linux.
[07:27] <sam22> how to remove the downloaded package list of apt-get ?
[07:27] <A_J> esx box ActionParsnip ?
[07:27] <A_J> sorry not familiar
[07:27] <sam22> sometimes they become so large they take harddisk space
[07:28] <sasank> where can i learn game programmin
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> nopf: could make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications to run: gnome-terminal vlc-nox %U    you'll need to verify syntax but it'll be something like that
[07:29] <theadmin> A_J: Here's a screenshot of Qingy in vbox for you :D :  http://i.imm.io/cPTb.png
[07:29] <nrdb> A_J, I agree with ActionParsnip.   In my opinion Windows should never be used for a server.
[07:29] <nopf> ActionParsnip: thanks, will try that time permitting :]
[07:30] <sam22> nrdb that's already been decided by the market if you look the market shares on running both linux and windows servers
[07:30] <A_J> oh thats nice. In my personal experince, windows non server editions are higly unstable
[07:30] <sam22> but windows server 2008 R2 i think kind of good
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> A_j: its a host to run VMs we have them in teams so if one box gets busy, the server computation is moved to one which is not so busy
[07:31] <sam22> without the price tag ofcourse
[07:31] <ganimede> the advantage of windows is that it pushes the users to change hardware regularly, hence favors the market economy :D
[07:31] <Ansikt> You know what I like about Windows?  Fuckin' powershell.
[07:31] <Ansikt> Also, thanks, Techdude101, you're right.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Ansikt: powershell is awesome
[07:32] <A_J> ActionParsnip very nice, your Database Admin I presume ?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> A_j: noc engineer
[07:32] <nrdb> sam22, one thing that annoys me is that the my university seems to think Windows is the only thing people use... asking for assignments in .doc format etc.
[07:32] <sasank> how can anyone become a comuter programmer
[07:33] <alex1> I need to copy about 20 folders, that contain a lot of hard links (rsnapshot backup directory) while preserving hard links. I've tryed "cp -a" to do this, but cp runs out of memory and gets oom killed.  Is there a better way to do that?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Nrdb: not pdf. Weird
[07:33] <ganimede> well, you may write them in texi then convert to html then import into word, in any case you can use openoffice
[07:33] <sam22> nrdb that will change if open office takes over but i don't think that will happen anytime son
[07:34] <nrdb> sam22, LibreOffice now ....
[07:34] <sasank> how can we operate a linux os in windows system
[07:35] <ganimede> you cant, but the other way round works. microsoft has given like 50k lines of code to the open source community to allow it
[07:35] <nrdb> sasank, a VM is the only way I know.
[07:36] <Lasivian> any suggestion for a FPS linux game?
[07:36] <sasank> what is vm
[07:36] <Atlantic777> Lasivian: nexuiz
[07:36] <Lasivian> thanks :)
[07:36] <Atlantic777> sasank: virtual machine, example: virtualbox
[07:37] <Atlantic777> !vm
[07:37] <Atlantic777> !VirtualBox | sasank
[07:37] <Ansikt> Alex1:  You could try using find to copy all regular files, and then use find again for all hard links, and copy with -l?  There's gotta be a better way, though.
[07:37] <sam22> sasank what are you trying to do with linux?
[07:38] <Ansikt> Lasivian:  UrbanTerror.  They're about to put out a new major release!
[07:38] <Lasivian> Ansikt: thanks
[07:39] <Lasivian> going on a long flight tomorrow, want something I can sit back with my controller and veg out in
[07:39] <nrdb> is there a good PCB design program, with circuit entry?
[07:39] <Atlantic777> nrdb: kicad
[07:39] <Atlantic777> nrdb: eagle
[07:39] <sasank> i alredy poses windows in my pc , butcan i run linux directly through or viceversa
[07:39] <Lasivian> Is there a linux version of Eagle?
[07:39] <Atlantic777> Lasivian: yes
[07:40] <Lasivian> I liked eagle at work, never tried it at home, hrrm
[07:40] <Braden`> Hello
[07:40] <Peddy> Ansikt, I just had a look at this chat, and I'm excited to hear UT has a new release coming out! It's been a while!
[07:40] <nrdb> Lasivian, yes.... but I am having trouble with it... it uses the <alt> button and the window manager is not allowing the <alt>click though to eagle.
[07:40] <Lasivian> sasank: You mean, can you run Linux inside Windows?
[07:40] <Braden`> I used sudo -s to gain root, and then I 'su'd o a different user, and typed "screen", but I get this message --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.
[07:40] <alex1> Ansikt: yeah, I guess I will try it out
[07:40] <Lasivian> nrdb: yeah, i've got some issues with that too....
[07:40] <sasank> yes
[07:41] <Peddy> Ansikt, do you have any more information on the release?
[07:41] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Oh yeah, I was just reading it on their blog the other day.  Improved graphics, new models for characters and guns, and it seems they're going to impliment dual wielding for the secondary weapons.
[07:41] <Atlantic777> Lasivian: there's a free (as in beer) version but with some limits for only 2 layers and size of PCB.
[07:41] <Lasivian> wonder if we can change Alt in Gnome to something else
[07:41] <nrdb> Lasivian, I have been trying to get the WM to use another key than <alt> but have been unsucsessful
[07:41] <Lasivian> FREE BEER?!?! WHERE??
[07:41] <Lasivian> ahem, pardon me...
[07:42]  * Lasivian coughs
[07:42] <nrdb> Lasivian, you could before 'unity'
[07:42] <sasank> is it possible
[07:42] <Peddy> Ansikt, those changes don't sound too major :/ it's been a few years though! Maybe they have some big surprises lined up
[07:42] <Lasivian> nrdb: oh, is Unity the new 11.X window setup?
[07:42] <ganimede> well, you can still disable unity and use another desktop, like the cube
[07:42] <Lasivian> i'm still on 10.04 long-term here
[07:43] <ganimede> and then you can reassign freely your keys
[07:43] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Well, it makes the game look quite a bit more modern, in any case.  Also a slew more handguns.  What would constitute a new "major version" to you?
[07:43] <dr_willis> cube is a desktop now? ;0
[07:43] <sasank> what is cloud computing
[07:43] <ganimede> sasank, go to the church
[07:43] <dr_willis> sasank:  wikipedia has definitions of that.
[07:43] <sam22> haha
[07:44] <sam22> the guy is indian
[07:44] <Atlantic777> !cloud | sasank
[07:44] <sam22> over 50% of the developers in microsoft are from asia
[07:44] <sasank> what is its concept
[07:44] <sam22> so give him a week
[07:44] <sam22> then see what he is capable of
[07:44] <Braden`> I used sudo -s to gain root, and then I 'su'd o a different user, and typed "screen", but I get this message --> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp0' - please check.
[07:44] <Atlantic777> sasank: it's when you connect computers over network and make im work together. :D
[07:44] <ganimede> over 70% of the developers from any corporation are from asia, for cost reasons
[07:44] <ganimede> (internal or external)
[07:45] <sasank> does it means that commn flow in clouds
[07:45] <Braden`> This is true.  I am based in Asia managing Asian teams.
[07:45] <Peddy> Ansikt, ooh, new weapons! I guess my expectation would be something like physics improvements, or improvements to game mechanics. It just seems a bit behind other games even for its time, but perhaps that's a by design.
[07:45] <Atlantic777> sasank: what? :D
[07:45] <ganimede> braden, what do you want to do with root rights?
[07:45] <om26er> !test
[07:47] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Well, the graphics rendering engine looks a bit revamped, but I see what you mean - the physics feel much less real than Halo: Combat Evolved, and that came out in what, 2003?
[07:47] <poz> can any of those games be placed on ubuntu?
[07:48] <Braden`> ganimede:  I just want to be able to launch screen sessions after I 'su'
[07:48] <nrdb> Lasivian, yes... so far not impressed.
[07:48] <Atlantic777> poz: which games? Urban Terror? Shure it can!
[07:49] <nrdb> Lasivian, seems to much configuration simplification ... not even sure how to control user groups from the gui.
[07:50] <poz> how about diablo 3 when it comes out?
[07:50] <ganimede> should work without admin rights, but you can do "sudo screen"
[07:50] <Peddy> Ansikt, I'm glad to hear - I used to play Sauerbraten and Urbanterror, and the former had one of the most amazing engines I've used. I'm not sure why they haven't focussed on those things, it would be even easier to use some physics mechanisms over other free games.
[07:50] <Peddy> from other games*
[07:52] <Lasivian> what I wouldn;t give for a good Mech combat game...
[07:53] <dr_willis> Lasivian:  mechwarrior free to play . comming out in 2012
[07:53] <Ansikt> Peddy:  Well, it's all ioQuake under the hood, so I don't know if it's really that Sauerbraten has better physics than Urbanterror, or if Urbanterror just isn't bothering to impliment it.
[07:53] <Atlantic777> poz: check the winehq apps db and playonlinux
[07:53] <Lasivian> dr_willis: oh, kickass
[07:54] <Lasivian> only PC tho, but still something
[07:55] <poz> thanks atlantic77
[08:02] <BJD10> Anyone know how to pass PHP variable to another part of the page for google cse
[08:02] <BJD10> http://pastebin.com/vdtApCQa
[08:04] <Atlantic777> BJD10: join #php
[08:04] <BJD10> already looking there too.
[08:06] <naught101> I'm trying to upgrade over satellite internet, and have disabled ipv6, but apt is hanging while waiting for headers (0%), and eventually the connection is failing, after a few minutes.
[08:06] <naught101> anyone have any experience of this? web browsing is generally a bit slow, but it works...
[08:07] <webnet> Do u have v4 enabled??
[08:07] <naught101> webnet: it's enabled by default, no?
[08:08] <webnet> Should be but if you are getting an unable to connect that may be my first thought
[08:08] <yamahaalex37> is there a ubuntu equivalent of disk manager
[08:08] <naught101> webnet: browsing and pinging is working fine
[08:08] <webnet> Run ifconfig in terminal
[08:09] <webnet> Oh ok. Hmm...
[08:09] <naught101> webnet: yep, wlan0 is up, with an IPv4 address, no ipv6 address
[08:09] <naught101> webnet: everything else works fine, it's just apt
[08:10] <webnet> Ok good. Are you running apt-get update and getting the error or a specific package?
[08:10] <yamahaalex37> is there a ubuntu equivalent of disk manager
[08:10] <webnet> Yamahaalex37 depends what are you trying to accomplish??
[08:11] <yamahaalex37> webnet, i tried dual boot win ubu same drive, fuxed up windows
[08:11] <yamahaalex37> i installed ubu to another drive
[08:11] <html> hi
[08:11] <yamahaalex37> im trying to delete whatever linux or grub partitions were created on the other drive, see if i can bring back windows
[08:11] <naught101> webnet: no, everything in apt always hangs here. I can't update, I can't install anything, and I can't upgrade
[08:11] <webnet> Aah so trying to fix the borked win install?
[08:12] <yamahaalex37> basically
[08:12] <yamahaalex37> its still there, i think it should be fine
[08:12] <yamahaalex37> it actually shows in grub, but selecting it starts to load then restarts
[08:12] <webnet> Yeah wat is messed up. Win doesnt show up in grub? Or error?
[08:13] <nrdb> is it possible to run two different window managers at the same time, say one in screen 7 and one in screen 8 ?
[08:13] <webnet> naught101. Hmm... by sattelite you mean wifi right?
[08:13] <yamahaalex37> it shows up, i select it
[08:13] <yamahaalex37> it starts to load, then restarts
[08:14] <Techdude101> yamhaalex37: You could run ntfsfix on your windows partition (apt-get install ntfsprogs)
[08:14] <naught101> webnet: no. I mean satellite modem
[08:14] <webnet> ^^ i was just thinkin tht
[08:14] <yamahaalex37> its on another drive will that work
[08:14] <nrdb> yamahaalex37, I would suspect Windows...
[08:14] <bodoh> guys ... anyway to play netflix in linux?
[08:15] <naught101> webnet: http://skymesh.net.au/
[08:15] <Techdude101> yamhaalex37: Yeah, it'll work on any drive e.g. ntfsfix /dev/sdb
[08:15] <pnorman> naught101: Some sat providers suck for blocking random stuff. I can't think of anything in apt that would cause it to be blocked though
[08:16] <webnet> naught101 oh ok... hmm... you said browsing is slow. How slow. What is your bandwidth. My thought is perhaps apt is timing out as its taking so long for the server to respond
[08:17] <naught101> pnorman: I was wondering that, but it seems an odd thing to block. Also, if I ring them up, they'll just say "sorry, we don't support linux"
[08:17] <pnorman> webnet: The issue with sat isn't bandwidth, although bandwidth isn't great, it's latency
[08:17] <naught101> webnet: not slow enough to kill the fun
[08:17] <Ansikt> pnorman:  I think apt uses ftp and http for transfers, so I doubt it's port-based.
[08:17] <html> is there a sever or alike that i can redircet all traffic online to it and speed up things , like p2p traffic ( Cod, call of duty). torrants i helpseed for linux , xbox online games ,
[08:17] <naught101> pnorman: yeah, possibly. I used to have problems here with ssh as well, but ssh seems to be working quite well lately - a second or two lag, but no connection problems
[08:18] <pnorman> Ansikt: They don't always do port-based blocking.
[08:18] <yamahaalex37> where is terminal...
[08:18] <pnorman> Ansikt: But ya, apt seems like a weird thing to be blocked.
[08:18] <webnet> Porman i just mean if hes only pulling like 5kbps that may cause it to be slow enough to cause a timeout
[08:18] <html> hoping i can lower my ping , and access  time
[08:19] <pnorman> naught101: try searching for apt-get on http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1734869
[08:20] <webnet> Yamahaalex ctrl+alt+t
[08:21] <Ansikt> pnorman:  I really doubt they're blocking it.  I'd bet any money the problem lies somewhere between your walljack and your chair.
[08:22] <pnorman> naught101: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1734869&p=45&#r898 seems to answer it. Apparently Skymesh's QoS de-prioritizes apt based on the HTTP user agent
[08:23] <naught101> pnorman: wow, what a pack of bastards
[08:23] <pnorman> If that's true or not, I don't know, but I imagine it'd be relatively easy to test
[08:23] <webnet> naught101 | !language
[08:24] <yamahaalex37> why doesnt su root work in ubu
[08:25] <yamahaalex37> i dont remember setting up root pw
[08:25] <webnet> !language | naught101
[08:25] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: try sudo su -
[08:25] <webnet> Yamahaalex its sudo su in ubu
[08:25] <naught101> pnorman: really? how?
[08:26] <ikonia> it is not "sudo su"
[08:26] <ikonia> sudo -i
[08:26] <ikonia> that will give you a root shell correctly
[08:26] <webnet> It is sido su
[08:27] <ikonia> webnet: no, it is not
[08:27] <ikonia> webnet: sudo -i is the correct way to get a root shell in ubuntu
[08:27] <Ansikt> Why?
[08:27] <webnet> Why would you want a root shell when you can just su in?
[08:27] <ikonia> !sudo > Ansikt
[08:27] <naught101> webnet: poor form. sudo -i or sudo -s
[08:27] <ikonia> Ansikt: check out the link ubottu just sent you
[08:27] <pnorman> naught101: change the apt user agent. I've never done it myself and I'm too tired to be confident that this will work, but adding Acquire::http::User-Agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/535.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/16.0.912.36 Safari/535.7" to /etc/apt/apt.conf *might* do it
[08:28] <webnet> Naught101 how so?
[08:28] <yamahaalex37> Techdude101, i tried ntfsfix /dev/sdbm, returned: volume is corrupt, try chkdsk
[08:29] <ikonia> yamahaalex37: fixing ntfs disks in linux is not a good idea, the correct tool for the job is Windows,
[08:29] <naught101> pnorman: I think I will try the ssh tunnel thing first
[08:29] <sheeps_> hi, I'm trying to convince banshee to sync with my generic usb music player but it won't recognise it when I plug it in, so it doesn't appear in the side bar (I can view the files in nautilus though)
[08:29] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: Make sure you run it on the windows partition itself e.g. ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[08:29] <pnorman> naught101: sat providers seem to filter in the most brain-dead ways. a ssh tunnel would be useful in general, but you'd need a computer to tunnel to
[08:30] <naught101> pnorman: I have one :)
[08:30] <yamahaalex37> Techdude101, refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sdb2
[08:30] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: Also make sure the drive isn't mounted
[08:30] <drake01> guys, what's the command to enable and then safely remove the usb data-drives from commandline?
[08:30] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: umount /dev/sdb2
[08:31] <yamahaalex37> Techdude101, not says it was processed sucessfull
[08:31] <yamahaalex37> restart and try loading?
[08:32] <pnorman> naught101: I was trying to get someone I know to be able to connect to Ventrilo (closed source voice chat server, like mumble, used as the standard way to communicate for some games). I gave up. I knew that it was theoretically possible to tunnel it (and only it) and bypass the blocking, but I knew that walking a non-technical user through setting up a tunnel would be near-impossible
[08:32] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: Yeah, see if it boots to windows and if it does run chkdsk if it doesn't start automatically
[08:32] <naught101> webnet: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/10/11/why-use-sudo-instead-of-su/
[08:32] <pnorman> Just remember, ubuntu is open source. If you break it, you get to keep the pieces :)
[08:32] <naught101> pnorman: I've done tunnelling before, I just need to remember how. will look up a howto
[08:32] <yamahaalex37> damn win didnt load
[08:33] <drake01> guys, what are the  commands to mount and then safely remove the usb data-drives from commandline?
[08:34] <nrdb> I think there is a bug with ubuntu... I can't seem to change the window drag key from <alt> to anything else.
[08:34] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: check your grub config, make sure it's pointing to the right drive/partition for windows
[08:34] <yamahaalex37> im sure it is, because i can select repair windows
[08:34] <pnorman> naught101: My ISP blocks a few ports, but no packet filtering or anything like that
[08:35] <prodr1fterx> hello
[08:35] <Techdude101> yamahaalex37: At what point does it reboot? Does it try and load windows?
[08:36] <prodr1fterx> hello
[08:37] <html> is there a server that speeds up my internet, and lowers ping ,?  or an app
[08:37] <drake01> How to mount and then safely remove the usb data-drives using commandline?
[08:37] <html> is there a server that speeds up my internet, and lowers ping ,?  or an app, or an os?
[08:38] <Techdude101> drake01: Think the command is "eject /dev/sdX"
[08:40] <ejv> Hello, I'm using diff between 2 files, there are arrows pointing left and right and a ----- line break; what does this all represent?
[08:40] <ejv> (The line break is followed by more output with directional arrows.)
[08:41] <Ansikt> html, check out Opera.  They compress some of the data before they send it to you.
[08:41] <Ansikt> It's pretty great for slow interwebs, html
[08:41] <pnorman> Most web browsers (all?) support gzip encoded content, but servers have to as well
[08:43] <yamahaalex37> any commands i can run in ubu to fix grub?
[08:43] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, whats wrong with it?
[08:43] <yamahaalex37> BOOTMGR is missing
[08:44] <yamahaalex37> long story
[08:44] <MahaVishnu> are you dual booting?
[08:44] <theadmin> yamahaalex37: That sounds like a Windows error...
[08:44] <yamahaalex37> i tried win ubu dual boot, broke windows boot. I installed ubu to another hdd, tried to fix. i loaded win recover, ran abunch of fixmbr commands
[08:44] <yamahaalex37> now i have no grub, and no bootmgr
[08:45] <naught101> pnorman: hurr... that user agent string fixes it. How ridiculous
[08:46] <xeqache> Hello, I'm having problems with ssh
[08:46] <xeqache> Is there anyone that can help?
[08:46] <sattu94> yamahaalex37: There is no reason fr the ubu installation to break windows, unless it was unsuccessful.
[08:47] <sattu94> xeqache: dont ask to ask. just ask.
[08:47] <happygolucky> ls
[08:48] <happygolucky> oops
[08:48] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, can you like open gparted and take a screen shot of it or something so I have a clue whats going on in your computer?
[08:48] <happygolucky> sorry
[08:48] <xeqache> I've got ubuntu running on my server, and on my local host. I have the right key pair set up, but ssh is returning permission denied (publickey)
[08:48] <xeqache> Can't figure out why at all
[08:48] <en1gma> if i want to just run a live cd how would i use kernel 3.1.5? i mean is there a script that lets you create a NEW/Custom live ubuntu usb/cd?
[08:49] <en1gma> there is a special driver for my wifi usb adapter that came in 3.1
[08:50] <yamahaalex37> MahaVishnu, is there any fix grub commands i can run
[08:50] <sattu94> xeqache: Did you put the public key in the authorized_keys file ?
[08:50] <xeqache> on my localhost?
[08:50] <sattu94> xeqache: on the server.
[08:51] <xeqache> it's an amazon ec2, so I presume it did it when I uploaded the public key
[08:51] <xeqache> I can't get into it to do it otherwise
[08:51] <sattu94> xeqache: Then I guess you could try asking on #ssh
[08:51] <xeqache> thanks anyway
[08:52] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, sudo update-grub2 sudp update-initramfs -u
[08:52] <en1gma> i mean i would like to use kernel 3.1.5 with ubuntu live cd....is there a guide to do this?
[08:53] <yamahaalex37> MahaVishnu didnt work
[08:53] <yamahaalex37> im livecd
[08:53] <sheeps_> hi, I'm trying to convince banshee to sync with my generic usb music player but it won't recognise it when I plug it in, so it doesn't appear in the side bar (I can view the files in nautilus though)
[08:54] <sattu94> xeqache: How did you upload they key?
[08:56] <caoxiaomin> 全是国外友人吗？
[08:56] <Cradam> !grub
[08:56] <Cradam> yamahaalex37: look at the restore grub link
[08:57] <caoxiaomin> help
[08:57] <ravedog> Hey all, i have a bit of an issue here. I need to deploy different packages to machines via cfe based on if its a laptop or a workstation. I was looking for pcmcia slot and then defined it as a laptop. However new laptops dont have pcmcia -.- Anyone got a bright idea?
[08:57] <caoxiaomin> 如何进入中文UBUNTU
[08:57] <MahaVishnu> yamahaalex37, I'd probably suggest just reinstalling ubuntu at this point.
[08:57] <theadmin> !cn | caoxiaomin
[08:57] <xeqache> sattu94, I uploaded it via the aws managaement console
[08:57] <caoxiaomin> ok
[08:58] <iceroot> ravedog: if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/state ] (i think its just a dirty workaround)
[08:58] <iceroot> ravedog: also maybe hwinfo have some info about it
[08:59] <ravedog> Brilliant Iceroot, hwinfo is too unreliable (got a few different models). However batteru state is perfect
[08:59] <ravedog> thnx!
[09:01] <Cradam> iceroot: acpi is not a work around, its what all battery monitors use
[09:01] <caoxiaomin> hello everyone!
[09:01] <Ansikt> HELLO CAOXIAOMIN!
[09:02] <caoxiaomin> hello,where are you from?
[09:02] <iceroot> Cradam: ah ok
[09:02] <iceroot> ravedog: see the info from Cradam
[09:02] <sam22> caoxiaomin no chinese help ?
[09:03] <Cradam> ooh /proc/acpi/battery/state isnt on this comp
[09:03] <Cradam> its a laptop
[09:04] <ravedog> iceroot dang!
[09:04] <iceroot> Cradam: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
[09:04] <ravedog> sounded soo good
[09:04] <Cradam> ravedog:  if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/ ] looks like it should always work
[09:04] <iceroot> ravedog: should still be working because its only generated when a battery is plugged in
[09:04] <susundberg> Cradam: that exists also on desktops
[09:04] <iceroot> ravedog: but mnaybe you get a problem when there is no battery plugged in but an ac adapter and its still a laptop
[09:04] <Cradam> ahh, use 2 if statements then
[09:05] <Cradam> ravedog: if [ -e /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state  || -e /proc/acpi/battery/state] ?
[09:06] <ravedog> my workstation has the /proc/acpi/battery/ but its empty
[09:06] <Cradam> btw, i dont know much about if statements in bash
[09:07] <Braden`> In aptitude, I still have a category called "gnome".  If I am using Unity, do I still need stuff in the gnome category?
[09:07] <ravedog> and both laptops have folders in the /proc/apci/battery/
[09:08] <wakaman> hello I'm from the real world my name is mike
[09:08] <ravedog> Cradam: i have on one laptop two folders name BAT0 & BAT1 and on the other they are named C1F3 & C1F4
[09:08] <wakaman> how are you doing today
[09:08] <geoffmcc> Braden`: Unity is a shell that runs on gnome - so you still need gnome
[09:08] <ravedog> but unless there is a machine without batty all together i should be pretty safe going for if there is anything att all in the battery folder
[09:09] <ravedog> battery*
[09:09] <Braden`> ok
[09:09] <Braden`> tanks
[09:09] <Cradam> ravedog: good idea
[09:09] <Braden`> thanks
[09:09] <zxiest> hey =)
[09:09] <ravedog> thnx for you help guys
[09:09] <zxiest> How can I get more info about a process given its pid?
[09:10] <Cradam> ravedog: if [ -a /proc/acpi/battery/* ] ??
[09:11] <ravedog> Cradam: Yeah!
[09:11] <html> ansikt i know that, thanks but i want all my traffic to go through this computer
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: you can run unity on LXDE if you so desire :)
[09:15] <Cradam> ravedog: yep, that works
[09:16] <ravedog> Cradam: Cheers m8!
[09:17] <Alexey> hi people
[09:17] <Alexey> I am new here
[09:17] <Alexey> going to install xubuntu
[09:17] <Alexey> but cannot get root rights(((
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Alexey: you don't need it, just use sudo
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Alexey: you can get a root terminal with:  sudo -i
[09:18] <Alexey> for any commands??
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Alexey: for terminal commands just prepend the command with sudo
[09:19] <Alexey> got it got it))
[09:19] <ntr0py> When building a package from an install tree in "debian/dest" with dh_install -a --sourcedir=debian/dest do i need any special treatment for shared object files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions?
[09:20] <vlt> Hello. How can I enter a whole path of a folder in nautilus?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> vlt: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/how-to-show-text-entry-address-bar-or-breadcrumbs-navigation-buttons-in-nautilus-after-ubuntu-10-04-upgrade/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> vlt: try CTRL+L
[09:21] <ravedog> vlt: what do you mean? just crtl+l to bring up the location window and do a /full/path/to/stuff
[09:22] <yamahaalex> i tried ubu dual boot on windows hdd, windows wasnt loading, so i uninstalled and put ubu on another drive
[09:23] <yamahaalex> now i only have win 7 on the hdd, but grub tried to load
[09:23] <yamahaalex> how can i get rid of grub
[09:23] <yamahaalex> im on the other hdd now, ubu
[09:23] <vlt> ActionParsnip, ravedog: Yes, ctrl+l works. Thank you.
[09:26] <sam22> is there a GUI program for ubuntu that shows log errors ?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> vlt: no worries
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> sam22: do you mean system logs, or just the errors in the logs, or log in errors?
[09:28] <yogg> Hi
[09:28] <yogg> Is it possible to ask the "dhcp" server only for the dns servers and not change anything on the interface configuration?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> yogg: I'd read the dhclient3  man page, see if its possible
[09:29] <sam22> ActionParsnip how do i install ubuntu default log viewer or any other log viewer ?
[09:29] <sam22> i'm on server installation
[09:30] <sam22> and there is excessive CPU activity
[09:30] <sam22> so i need to know what's happening
[09:30] <yogg> ActionParsnip: the problem is "man dhclient3" shows me many options, but most of them are not described :(
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> sam22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles#Viewing_Files   not sure about log file viewer being default, you can always use less to read the files
[09:32] <almoxarife> sam22: have a gui client to access the server?
[09:32] <rasmusth> when I try to update the update manager keeps saying, "installation of untrusted packages"
[09:32] <rasmusth> how do I fix this? 11.10
[09:33] <yogg> ActionParsnip: google manpage is better   -n  :)
[09:36] <yogg> hmm with "dhclient -n" the client hangs and don't show me anything
[09:38] <sam22> almoxarife i'm on the server
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:38] <sam22> sorry for the late reply
[09:39] <sam22> i customized it from the beginning but i don't know is broken now
[09:40] <yamahaalex> double touchpad scroll not working ubu fresh install
[09:40] <sam22> ok i installed the ubuntu GUI log viewer
[09:40] <sam22> thanks for the tip guys
[09:41] <ax3plyr> hey guys, quick question, in terms of wildcards, how come doing "ls D?sktop" doesn't list Desktop (for example).
[09:41] <almoxarife> yamahaalex: look at the mouse/pad setting, I do believe that what you want is there, but needs to be set
[09:42] <rasmusth> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org oneiric InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[09:42] <rasmusth> this may be the line you want?
[09:42] <yamahaalex> thanks almostroot
[09:42] <yamahaalex> almoxarife,
[09:45] <almoxarife> rasmusth: you don't have the pub keys for the ppa, and being told so
[09:45] <rasmusth> okay
[09:45] <rasmusth> shouldn't ubuntu make sure I have that?
[09:47] <JLuc> hello
[09:47] <raidgh0st> Hello JLuc
[09:48] <raidgh0st> Seems like pretty much of the people in here is sleeping (timezone diff)
[09:48] <almoxarife> rasmusth: no, ppa's are sort of the wild wild west, on you to make them work and suffer when they cripple your system
[09:48] <JLuc> i deleted a folder using rm -rf *    Plz Is there a simple way to recover it ?
[09:48] <raidgh0st> ooh. You done something stupid..
[09:48] <JLuc> :-/
[09:49] <rasmusth> almoxarife: okay that doesnt make a lot of sense though as I have not changed anything, it stopped working on its own
[09:49] <almoxarife> JLuc: now you won't do that again
[09:49] <raidgh0st> learning by doing
[09:49] <JLuc> i'll be more thoughtfull
[09:49] <JLuc> sure
[09:49] <raidgh0st> its almost the same as my typos for some years ago. rm picture.jpg picture_year.jpg
[09:49] <raidgh0st> and i couldnt understand why the pictures was gone
[09:49] <geirha> !undelete | JLuc
[09:49] <almoxarife> rasmusth: you had to have added the ppa, it did not happen via ubuntu alone
[09:50] <JLuc> thank ubuntu team i will look at these links
[09:50] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: Of course my friend was laughting. and did ask me. What command did you run again you said. And then it went up on my mind. The wrong syntax :p
[09:50] <rasmusth> almoxarife: even if I remove everything from the list, it still doesnt work
[09:51] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: ????
[09:51] <almoxarife> rasmusth: it? and list?
[09:51] <rasmusth> the problem is coming from Medibuntu
[09:51] <raidgh0st> nevermind. you was not able to follow my lines.
[09:51] <rasmusth> and I do not recall adding Medibuntu
[09:51] <cowtaurog> hi, can anyone help me figure this out? my ubuntu cd (and dvd) won't boot, all it shows is a little graphic at the bottom center of the screen with a box, arrow, and a little guy in a circle.
[09:52] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: Checked bios?
[09:52] <yamahaalex> is there a one line apt-get to have LAMP?
[09:52] <cowtaurog> what do you mean?
[09:52] <cowtaurog> it boots from cd, if that's what you're asking
[09:52] <iceroot> yamahaalex: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
[09:53] <rasmusth> almoxarife: isn't medibuntu added when I install ubuntu?
[09:54] <yamahaalex> thanks iceroot
[09:54] <raidgh0st> rasmusth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:54] <cowtaurog> anyways i was going to do an install on a hard drive i recently cleand out. i installed knoppix on it, it works just fine, but it's ghetto, ubuntu is what i wanted to begin with
[09:55] <almoxarife> rasmusth: no, you are thinking of another distro that does, but it is not 'ubuntu'
[09:55] <raidgh0st> rasmusth: needs to be installed afterwards.
[09:55] <rasmusth> how on earth has it gotten onto my system then
[09:55] <rasmusth> maybe XBMC installed it
[09:56] <almoxarife> rasmusth: no, xbmc wouldn't
[09:56] <html> whats a cashing server?
[09:56] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: When installing XBMC it also install the medibuntu packages and Ubuntu restricted extras.
[09:56] <dr_willis> a cacheing server you mean?
[09:57] <Delaya> Does anyone know why when I reverse search in the shell, sometimes a command just dissapears from the search <history> and is replaced by a wildcard?
[09:57] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: you saying that xbmc adds the medibuntu ppa? I have xbmc, I guess I can look for myself
[09:58] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/install-xbmc-on-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[09:58] <almoxarife> !info dnsmasq | html
[09:59] <almoxarife> html: I use it, pretty cool little app too
[09:59] <red> Heya, I have an older server runnin karmic
[10:00] <red> and the package sources have been removed from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists
[10:00] <rasmusth> when I have an application installed from the software center, can I edit it's startup script somewhere?
[10:00] <red> what should I do? :p
[10:00] <raidgh0st> karmic, i guess thats the only version that graphical card works with Acer aspire one
[10:02] <dr_willis> raidgh0st:  that sites directions seems to contradict itself.. they are installing the medibuntu and extras with their commands.
[10:02] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: the link is wrong, there is more than one ppa for xbmc 11.10
[10:03] <dr_willis> bbl
[10:03] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: okey then.
[10:03] <sam22> cya dr_willis
[10:03] <Delaya> Does anyone know why when I reverse search in the shell, sometimes a command just dissapears from the search <history> and is replaced by a wildcard?
[10:03] <red> dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[10:03] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: something else, the english looks like it was spit out by a universal translator
[10:03] <red> from apt-get update
[10:03] <sam22> anyone in here nows how to delete the apt-get update packages lists?
[10:03] <red> and then I checked that the distros are indeed removed from archive, so how would I upgrade if i wanted to :P
[10:04] <sam22> they are stored in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[10:04] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: I guess you rather would like me to speak norwegian.
[10:04] <html> all-knowing google
[10:05] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: ??
[10:05] <yamahaalex> how can i set up a localhost domain in ubu
[10:05] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: i thought you was complaining aboute my english.
[10:06] <cowtaurog> okay, so can anyone *pleeease* tell me what these hieroglyphics mean? my ubuntu cd won't boot, and all it gives me is some little icon on the bottom of my screen
[10:06] <almoxarife> raidgh0st: no, I was talking about the link
[10:06] <raidgh0st> Okey.
[10:06] <rasmusth> when I have an application installed from the software center, can I edit it's startup script somewhere?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: did yuo MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:08] <almoxarife> rasmusth: you can, but the question is how much needs to be edited to get what you want to achieve
[10:08] <cowtaurog>  no, i didn't, but i've tried it a few times, both cd and dvd
[10:08] <yamahaalex> where does ubu store apache files
[10:08] <cowtaurog> i shall try right now though
[10:08] <yamahaalex> httpd.conf
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[10:08] <rasmusth> I want to add --version=4.0 as a launch parameter
[10:08] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: Does something else boot from the DVD drive?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | cowtaurog
[10:08] <almoxarife> rasmusth: to what?
[10:09] <cowtaurog> yeah i've installed knoppix just like i intended to do ubuntu
[10:09] <raidgh0st> almoxarife: ubottu selfmade ircbot?
[10:09] <cowtaurog> boot from dvd, install to hd, boot from hd, works great
[10:09] <rasmusth> almoxarife: an application called Airfoil Speakers
[10:09] <raidgh0st> perl i guess.
[10:09] <cowtaurog> but ubuntu just doesn't want to boot from the cd
[10:09] <raidgh0st> Why boot from cd when you can boot from dvd
[10:09] <cowtaurog> yeah i have to find a md5 client for windows now...
[10:10] <rasmusth> sorry
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: as yuo havn't checked the ISO, you don't know if it is complete or consistant
[10:10] <rasmusth> --runtime=v4.0
[10:10] <mac1> hello
[10:10] <raidgh0st> hello mac1
[10:10] <html> almoxarife,  whats it do?
[10:11] <cowtaurog> yeah i just find it odd that i've got two different iso's and both do the same thing
[10:11] <almoxarife> html: it?
[10:11] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: what size are your iso?
[10:11] <almoxarife> rasmusth: what version? ubuntu
[10:11] <rasmusth> 11.10
[10:11] <mac1> unity freezes when i switch users (nvidia 520 gt with proprietary drivers..) i have to logout between each user change
[10:12] <mac1> any ideas ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> mac1: if you press ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace    is it ok?
[10:12] <almoxarife> rasmusth: /usr/share/applications has all the .desktop files for gui'fied apps, you could change it there?
[10:12] <cowtaurog> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso, and it's 711,980 kb
[10:13] <mac1> ActionParsnip: nop, all is freezed even the keyboard, i cannot even ssh into it from another computer
[10:13] <raidgh0st> cowtaurog: the size is correct
[10:13] <rasmusth> almoxarife: I tried adding the parameter to the Exec line nothing happens when I try to launch with that at all
[10:13] <cowtaurog> i'm going to check the file and everything, but i got it off the torrent, so it should be just fine
[10:13] <cowtaurog> it's probably been checked a thousand times
[10:14] <rasmusth> this works: http://pastie.org/3004432
[10:14] <rasmusth> but I dont know how to apply it to the .desktop app
[10:14] <html> almoxarife,  the cashing server
[10:14] <almoxarife> rasmusth: I don't know what to tell you, run it via terminal, look for errors?
[10:14] <cowtaurog> yeah i just want to know wtf that icon means
[10:14] <yamahaalex> is ubu /etc/apache2/httpd.conf supposed to be empty?
[10:15] <JLuc> no
[10:15] <html> almoxarife,  i want some thing that with give me the edge for online
[10:15] <cowtaurog> a file cabinet or something, annd an arrow pointing to some stick figure in a circle
[10:15] <almoxarife> html: is that what you are looking for? dns caching?
[10:15] <cowtaurog> i even tried google image search, noting
[10:17] <html> almoxarife,  i dont know , i want my whole house to have a less laggy interent, lower ping  for p2p xbox games and latence
[10:18] <almoxarife> html: edge? not sure what you are wanting to achive? I find that dnsmasq shaves milsecs from dns lookups, but I use it to actually keep a shitload of garbage from getting thru to the browser, that's an edge I guess
[10:18] <cowtaurog> okay so the md5 matches too...
[10:18] <html> oh i have 12 mbp down and 1.3 up
[10:19] <Braden`> How do you authenticate for root privs if you select "Login without a password"?
[10:19] <sam22> almoxarife is there a GUI utility equal to the terminal TOP ?
[10:19] <html> almoxarife,  like stuff  as in adds? :) ihope?      what about ping?
[10:20] <almoxarife> html: yeap, ads especially
[10:20] <rasmusth> great, now I rebooted after updates, and it is stuck at checking battery state
[10:21] <almoxarife> html: I am looking up the app for ping, ping only to the dns server, after that the ping is at the mercy of the closest what ever it is that you are trying to get at
[10:21] <yamahaalex> what can i do in GEdit when it says could not save, no permission
[10:22] <geoffmcc> yamahaalex: gksudo gedit and then edit and save
[10:22] <yamahaalex> ok
[10:22] <yamahaalex> how can i create a new local domain
[10:22] <yamahaalex> like isntead of localhost
[10:22] <html> almoxarife,  YEAAAA!!!!  my linux netbook  has it hard enough,,,, like a fat man on a moped.....
[10:23] <almoxarife> html: look at 'namebench' app for setting up the closest fastest dns
[10:23] <Braden`> How do you authenticate for root privs if you select "Login without a password"?
[10:23] <html> almoxarife,  google it?
[10:23] <almoxarife> !info namebench
[10:24] <almoxarife> html: nope, just install it
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mac1: any bugs reported?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> mac1: what if you use the open driver?
[10:24] <Kingfisher> Hello I want to make a script to archive a web page
[10:24] <geoffmcc> Braden`: sudo command or if gui app gksudo command
[10:24] <Kingfisher> I know how to save a webpage with wget
[10:24] <happygolucky> Braden`: i needed to login as root to do nvidia drivers, personally i did sudo passwd root and then set a root pass and logged in
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: same password you set when you installed
[10:24] <Kingfisher> but how do I download all the images on a webpage with bash?
[10:25] <geoffmcc> happygolucky: that is not wise or recomended advice to give
[10:25] <happygolucky> geoffmcc: blah blah blah, i said personally
[10:25] <Vustom> I have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount help
[10:25] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?
[10:26] <MahaVishnu> happyface, or you could have just done sudo su and not risked your system security.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Kingfisher: wget -p -k http://www.example.com/
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Kingfisher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinWGet
[10:26] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: that's not my name
[10:26] <Kingfisher> ActionParsnip, winwget is for windows is it not?
[10:26] <Kingfisher> I'm on Ubuntu
[10:26] <MahaVishnu> happyface, you still saw it. :F
[10:26] <html> almoxarife,  http://tinyurl.com/yehoh9g
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Kingfisher: it will be the same deal, check the man page to verify
[10:26] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: and no su after doing a WUBI install was not available to me
[10:27] <almoxarife> html: then you would need to have this file avail to dnsmasq to remove lots of garbage from your web browser winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
[10:27] <MahaVishnu> *wishes they would get rid of wubi*
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its ok as a cheap try before you buy
[10:27] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, half the people in here its cause of wubi.
[10:27] <html> agree MahaVishnu  ActionParsnip
[10:28] <almoxarife> html: that's the one, its available thru install too
[10:28] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: you realize Ubuntu is billed as an intro to linux distribution
[10:28] <MahaVishnu> happygolucky, doesn't mean you need to use wubi when the other options are VERY easy.
[10:29] <MahaVishnu> and from what i've seen wubi has a low sucess rate.
[10:29] <MahaVishnu> success*
[10:29] <cowtaurog> ok so...
[10:29] <cowtaurog> you'd think there would be better documentation on this
[10:30] <Tyrope> Greetings, #ubuntu. I'm trying to setup SSH on my box and i'm using this site as my guide, but I can't find the "AllowUsers" line, do I add this somewhere? http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3328
[10:30] <happygolucky> MahaVishnu: that's your opinion and you're entitled to it but i've installed ubuntu in every way and had success with it period, even on playstations
[10:30]  * sattu94 is happy that he began Ubuntu before Wubi came along.. :P
[10:30] <MahaVishnu> happyface, I'm glad ubuntu rocks
[10:30] <cowtaurog> all this specific stuff people ask about is all good, but i can't even get the cd to boot -_-
[10:30] <MahaVishnu> cowtaurog, whats wrong with it? did you check the md5
[10:30] <cowtaurog> yeah the md5 matches
[10:31] <Tyrope> cowtaurog: did you add your CD drive to the boot sequence in the BIOS?
[10:31] <cowtaurog> c396dd0f97bd122691bdb92d7e68fde5 fyi
[10:31] <raidgh0st> Tyrope: how hard is it to install openssd. (its apt-get install openssh-server)
[10:31] <Tyrope> raidgh0st: it's installed, i'm configuring it.
[10:31] <cowtaurog> it isn't any of that, i tried the cd, i tried dvd, neither one works
[10:31] <Tyrope> hence the word 'setup' and not 'install'
[10:31] <MahaVishnu> cowlicks, describe neither one works ?
[10:31] <raidgh0st> Tyrope: If its installed. Do you need do modify anything
[10:31] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?
[10:31] <cowtaurog> i have
[10:31] <raidgh0st> unless you`re gonan be paraonoia and only have 1 user.
[10:32] <cowtaurog> anyways it boots from bios to the cd
[10:32] <cowtaurog> but all it does is give a black screen with a weird icon
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | cowtaurog
[10:32] <cowtaurog> and it's clearly ubuntu
[10:32] <cowtaurog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: is the hash correct?
[10:32] <Tyrope> raidgh0st: I'm just wondering why the line isn't showing up. I know it's merely an extra layer of security and probably not required. I am however wondering if missing this line means a faulty install
[10:32] <MahaVishnu> cowtaurog, you might need the nomodeset option ?
[10:33] <cowtaurog> i'm good on using some external site
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: what GPU do you use?
[10:33] <cowtaurog> ati radeon 2400
[10:33] <cowtaurog> pretty old
[10:33] <html> almoxarife
[10:33] <cowtaurog> but i've never had a problem with ubuntu before
[10:33] <almoxarife> cowtaurog: try install with the 'alternate' iso and be hardwired to the internet, try that
[10:33] <cowtaurog> ...this isn't my first rodeo
[10:33] <html> almoxarife,  i have it so now what ?
[10:34] <almoxarife> html: have?
[10:34] <geoffmcc> Tyrope: no, if its needed you add it
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: try the boot option:  radeon.nomodeset=1
[10:34] <Tyrope> geoffmcc: Thank you. Can i just add it anywhere?
[10:34] <html> almoxarife,  namebench,,,,,
[10:34] <Tyrope> (on it's own line, ofcourse)
[10:34] <almoxarife> html: run it?
[10:34] <geoffmcc> Tyrope: yes
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: MD5 is important, it can be needed less if you use torrents due to the protocol
[10:34] <html> how?
[10:34] <Tyrope> Thank you very much, geoffmcc.
[10:34] <cowtaurog> i can't try a boot option or anything... unless i roll it into the iso and burn another disc
[10:34] <mac1> ActionParsnip: i did find someone who reported a similar issue in the ubuntu forums, but nobody replied..
[10:35] <cowtaurog> it doesn't even get that far
[10:35] <geoffmcc> Tyrope: maybe best to put below host section though, no problem
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> mac1: tried with the open driver?
[10:35] <almoxarife> html: open a terminal please and type 'namebench'
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | cowtaurog they are applied before grub2 starts to load the kernel on the CD, so you do
[10:36] <cowtaurog> okay, i shall try again, and take plenty of pictures with my phone. the resolution on the screen is horrible, nevermind cellphone pics
[10:36] <Vustom> I have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount, could anyone help me please?
[10:36] <cowtaurog> maybe someone will have seen this before
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> cowtaurog: once you get installed it will help, you can then get updated and it should help a lot
[10:36] <mac1> ActionParsnip: not yet, could i revert if it does not work ?
[10:37] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of why ubuntu 11.10 suddenly just stops at Checking battery state when I try to boot it?
[10:38] <almoxarife> rasmusth: have a batt?
[10:38] <geoffmcc> cowtaurog: you wouldnt happen to have dual display. 1hdmi and one crt monitor using VGA?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> mac1: sure you can switch back as you wish, just blacklist the nvidia driver and you will make the OS use nouveau
[10:38] <rasmusth> almoxarife: no
[10:38] <raidgh0st> rasmusth: if the battery is on its time to be replaced it doesnt checking battery state
[10:39] <mac1> ActionParsnip: how can i do that ?
[10:39] <almoxarife> rasmusth: ohh :(
[10:39] <rasmusth> no bat
[10:39] <html> almoxarife, ok here goes...
[10:40] <Vustom> How do I install ms-sys in Ubuntu?
[10:40] <html> ms-sys? whats that ?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mac1: echo "blacklist nvidia" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf
[10:40] <almoxarife> html: choose alexa as 'query data source' , so any caching done so far by anything won't effect the test
[10:41] <html> its not here
[10:42] <geoffmcc> rasmusth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66146/why-11-10-says-plymouth-errors-and-checking-battery-state
[10:42] <NeilP> is this the help channel?
[10:42] <almoxarife> html: it will show if you click on the source shown
[10:42] <ikonia> NeilP: it is
[10:42] <mac1> ActionParsnip: thanks and to revert i remove the line from nvidia.conf ?
[10:43] <NeilP> Can I ask for help regarding my administrator account? I just installed ubuntu yesterday and I love it but after I set my account to no password, it still asks for a password during authentication...
[10:43] <rasmusth> geoffmcc: thanks
[10:43] <ikonia> NeilP: asks for a password where?
[10:44] <iceroot> NeilP: dont set an empty password!
[10:44] <NeilP> during installations (software center)
[10:44] <NeilP> I just did...ehehe
[10:44] <ikonia> NeilP: how did you set the password to blank ?
[10:44] <NeilP> I already tried the root thing though
[10:44] <iceroot> NeilP: that is the user-password which is asked for
[10:44] <Gentoo64> NeilP, thats common when peope come from window
[10:44] <querier> Hi there, im remastering linux and wonder if I can reduce the .iso's size by deleting packages to be installed. Can I list up standard ubuntu packages sorted by size?
[10:44] <NeilP> I just set it to no password
[10:44] <ikonia> NeilP: where ?
[10:45] <NeilP> When I try to change my password, the cursor goes to the new password immediately, it doesn't ask for the current one. But the Change button is dimmed
[10:45] <NeilP> -user accounts
[10:45] <geoffmcc> NeilP: although you set it to no password on login, to do things that require root access you need to authenticate
[10:45] <ikonia> I do not believe the user-accounts gui should allow you to set a null password
[10:45] <NeilP> yeah, Im trying to do the sudo commands
[10:46] <Vustom> I have GRUB2 on /dev/sda which boots into Ubuntu instantly with timeout=0, and I want a seperate GRUB2 on /dev/sda2 (Windows partition) that boots onto Windows with timeout=0, can someone help me do this? I've tried sudo mount -a ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda but it just shows me sudo mount, could anyone help me please?
[10:46] <iceroot> ikonia: i does not allow it
[10:46] <NeilP> well, it says on the user accounts: Password None
[10:46] <iceroot> ikonia: i guess he means "autologin"
[10:46] <happygolucky> mac1: no offense to ActionParsnip but i have a gtx card and I had to blacklist nouveau so what is suggested seems crazy to me but if it works it works
[10:46] <ikonia> iceroot: then how has he set it to no password
[10:46] <ikonia> NeilP: did you set it to autologin ?
[10:46] <iceroot> ikonia: vim on /etc/shadow? :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> happygolucky: trying either is fine, it's free :)
[10:46] <ikonia> iceroot: I pray not
[10:47] <iceroot> ikonia: i bet he is talking about something diffrent
[10:47] <geoffmcc> NeilP: but the password you created during install is still the password for sudo
[10:47] <happygolucky> ActionParsnip: my sentiments precisely
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> happygolucky: or even both, no offence taken. As long as the goal is reached I don't care
[10:47] <NeilP> i have autologin activated
[10:47] <NeilP> how do I use the sudo command to change passwd for my account?
[10:47] <iceroot> NeilP: you dont use sudo to change your password
[10:48] <mac1> happygolucky: :) i dont reaaly know, what to do.. i'll try to install xfce and see if i can switch users in it
[10:48] <Vustom> No one can help me? :(
[10:48] <iceroot> NeilP: with sudo you change/set the rott-password
[10:48] <iceroot> nfor changing your own password you use "passwd"
[10:48] <html> whe3re do i post my screen shots?
[10:48] <iceroot> NeilP: ^
[10:48] <iceroot> !paste | html
[10:48] <NeilP> okay..I tried using the 'passwd' in the root thing
[10:49] <NeilP> but it just says authentication fail
[10:49] <iceroot> NeilP: post the exact command you used and the error message
[10:49] <geoffmcc> NeilP: ok. lets start over. what is it that you are trying to do,
[10:49] <NeilP> im trying to set a new password for my admin account
[10:49] <iceroot> NeilP: and post what you tried to do/though it is doing
[10:50] <html> iceroot,  thats for text.. i need picture bin
[10:50] <mac1> ok thanx folks for the help
[10:50] <iceroot> NeilP: admin-account = root? or the sudo-user in the admin-group?
[10:50] <mac1> see ya
[10:50] <rasmusth> is it possible to auto login to unity-2d
[10:50] <happygolucky> mac1: personally i'd put nouveau.blacklist=true before quiet splash inside of grub, you'll have to edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo grub-mkconfig
[10:50] <iceroot> html: read the text again
[10:50] <geoffmcc> NeilP: whenever you set the password on the default account it becomes the sudo password
[10:50] <NeilP> This is the first account made by ubuntu for me.
[10:50] <iceroot> NeilP: and you want to change the password from your default user?
[10:50] <almoxarife> NeilP: did you at the time of installation decide to leave the passwords blank? or you blanked them after the fact?
[10:50] <NeilP> I set it to no password...which was a big mistake
[10:50] <geoffmcc> NeilP: well you set it to auto login, but you still set a password
[10:51] <iceroot> NeilP: so your normal user does not have a password at the moment?
[10:51] <NeilP> Yes
[10:51] <NeilP> it does not have a password at the moment
[10:51] <NeilP> But I have autologin enabled
[10:51] <iceroot> NeilP: "sudo df" is that asking for a password?
[10:51] <almoxarife> no password means no sudo then??
[10:51] <rasmusth> NeilP: but then you cannot use either VNC or SSH?
[10:51] <NeilP> the only sudo ive tried is 'su -s'
[10:51] <iceroot> NeilP: that is a root-shell
[10:52] <iceroot> NeilP: not sudo
[10:52] <NeilP> okay, im sorry i dont know VNC and SSH
[10:52] <NeilP> oh...okay.
[10:52] <iceroot> NeilP: again! post the exact command you are using
[10:52] <geoffmcc> NeilP: during install you set a password, you then set to autologin.. the password you set is still valid
[10:52] <html> almoxarife, http://imagebin.org/188190
[10:52] <NeilP> it doesnt accept the original password
[10:52] <geoffmcc> NeilP: if you dont know what it is jsut do passwd from terminal and reset or go to accounts and reset threw gui
[10:52] <geoffmcc> NeilP: i find its easier to just passwd from a terminal
[10:53] <NeilP> do you mean terminal as in that boot thing you do before the OS starts
[10:53] <NeilP> like going to recov mode?
[10:53] <iceroot> NeilP: what command does not accept the password?
[10:53] <NeilP> the passwd command
[10:53] <iceroot> NeilP: please dont let us guess here
[10:53] <geoffmcc> NeilP: no terminal. command line interface... like cmd.exe in windows
[10:53] <NeilP> I used passwd Neil
[10:53] <NeilP> then it says enter UNIX password
[10:53] <iceroot> NeilP: what is the output of "whoami"
[10:54] <NeilP> havent tried thta
[10:54] <iceroot> NeilP: and you are calling "passwd"?
[10:54] <geoffmcc> NeilP: while loged itno the account you want to change the password on just use passwd then enter then it will guide u threw password change
[10:54] <willis111> hai
[10:54] <willis111> I'm having some troubles w/rt2870 usb 10.04 lts
[10:54] <happygolucky> is it me or does everyone want NeilP to get back to the freaking command line and do stuff
[10:55] <happygolucky> :)
[10:55] <willis111> tried building the sta driver from the ralink site but no love
[10:55] <almoxarife> html: the version I have is 1,3,1 , where did you get namebench from? what version of ubuntu?
[10:55] <html> almoxarife, http://imagebin.org/188190 this is what i see , it just tested the bowser(firefox
[10:55] <willis111> the device shows up with the stock rt2870usb driver but wont do anything
[10:56] <html> almoxarife,  software center > search  {namebench} its the only one there
[10:56] <willis111> err rt2800usb/rt2x00
[10:56] <happygolucky> NeilP: i dunno what you have access to or dont but if you needed to record a pass you could unshadow and crack it with john the ripper
[10:56] <html> almoxarife,  how do i see what im running ? like command line?
[10:57] <NeilP> okay thanks for the help guys
[10:57] <almoxarife> html: ok, so run it as is
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench precise
[10:57] <willis111> works great on my gentoo system, just emerged the sta drivers/firmware
[10:57] <almoxarife> html: what version of ubuntu you got?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> html: lsb_release -sc
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: it's 1.3.1 in precise too
[10:59] <willis111> !info rt2870*
[10:59] <almoxarife> html: something smells
[10:59] <willis111> !info rt2800usb
[10:59] <html> ActionParsnip,  thanks a ton :)... trying to get around to commandlind ,, its a little hard
[11:00] <html> almoxarife,  ? huh lol
[11:00] <html> almoxarife, lol i smell it to ...
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> html: I gave the exact command, so no need to be able to get around, you just need to be able to copy andpaste
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> html: what is the output of the command please?
[11:01] <almoxarife> html: your version of the thing is not what is avail, you got an error loading alexa , I saw it on your term, soooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:01] <html> maveric
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench maveric
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !info namebench maverick
[11:02] <willis111> what kernel is 11.10 using with updates?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[11:03] <willis111> tyvm
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> np
[11:03] <MahaVishnu> so the kernel is only 32kb ?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: its a meta package only
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: like ubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <html> almoxarife,  huhuhuhuhu??? what is your subject to your last comment?
[11:04] <MahaVishnu> ahh. yea I didn't think it could be 32kb
[11:04] <NeilP> I just knew that the terminal is different from the root shell o_O. I solved it! thanks! haha
[11:04] <willis111> and 10.04 is 2.6.36?
[11:04] <almoxarife> html: nevermind alexa, run it, close down firefox if its open
[11:04] <willis111> 2.6.32*
[11:05] <html> almoxarife,  plaese what was you talking about ?
[11:06] <willis111> or do I have to sync portage or whatever?
[11:06] <almoxarife> html: I assumed you were at 11.10, I asked for the version, I got no response, so I assumeddddddddddddddd,
[11:07] <MahaVishnu> ActionParsnip, kernel is vmlinuz or initrd ?
[11:08] <almoxarife> html: the point of using the alexa list is to insure you are not hitting on already cached dns entries, but I don't know why it crashed on your system
[11:08] <willis111> vmlinuz
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> MahaVishnu: both afaik
[11:10] <ServerTechLaptop> Encrypted HDD shows 'umountable drive' after entering pass
[11:11] <afeijo> hi guys, I installed compizconfig-settings-manager but yet, compiz is no working for my brand new 11.10, what else does it need?
[11:11] <html> almoxarife,  lol  i am slow at typing  i'll get there in the end...  and i really dont like unity for old, slow pcs , -hich everyone has     , there to much of a learning curve  for newbles lunix users , and still a pain to figure out for me ...... if i get i faster , newer one then maybe i give it a run.... and kubuntu ,,,,,, anyway
[11:13] <willis111> !info hostapd
[11:14] <html> almoxarife,  well i dont want to do that .... alexa list thinnggyyy... mmmm  what is it?
[11:14] <almoxarife> html: you don't need to use unity, I don't, I use gnome shell, one big blank screen too, I also use cairo-dock, cause its far simpler to get at stuff, and to boot, since ubuntu lacks in some utils I took them from kubuntu, so I guess I am running a cairo-gno-ku
[11:14] <willis111> tacos rule
[11:15] <rasmusth> ok so after having updated ubuntu, xbmc is super slow in menus, as if GFX is not working
[11:15] <almoxarife> html: don't want to do? lost you?
[11:16] <html> almoxarife,  post a pic or video
[11:16] <sokak> Hallo, 'sup?
[11:17] <keepguessing> Hi, I am having python dump on a mount point. I have mounted that at a place such as /commonapps/mntpnt/python2.6/ now I have python 2.7 installed [on ubuntu 11.10] How can I make use of both python 2.7 preinstalled and the python 2.6 mounted?
[11:18] <rasmusth> how can I check if my gfxis accelerating
[11:19] <sokak> rasmusth, turn on compiz and see if is crawling or not
[11:21] <rasmusth> sokak: I think compiz has some bug with my gfx
[11:21] <rasmusth> never worked
[11:22] <sokak> which gpu and which drivers you have?
[11:25] <Anomie21> How do you install openoffice? Can't see it in the software centre for some weird reason. sudo apt-get install openoffice doesn't work either.
[11:27] <iceroot> Anomie21: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[11:27] <Anomie21> iceroot: I already have libreoffice, Its not very good though so I'm trying to install Oo
[11:27] <sokak> They are almost the same
[11:27] <iceroot> Anomie21: there is no openoffice anymore in the repos its replaced with libreoffice
[11:28] <sokak> btw, go on openoffice website and download the deb -.-
[11:28] <geoffmcc> Anomie21: assuming your on 11.10 --- http://www.fossapps.com/2011/12/01/how-to-install-openoffice-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[11:28] <iceroot> lake: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice and at the moment they are the same
[11:28] <DarkStar1> How do I get the size of my FS in CLI?
[11:28] <Anomie21> sokak: libreoffice is unable to open some microsoft word files properly
[11:28] <iceroot> DarkStar1: df -h
[11:28] <DarkStar1> I know it's du but can't remember the options
[11:28] <iceroot> Anomie21: but openoffice is?
[11:28] <iceroot> DarkStar1: man du  to see the options
[11:28] <Anomie21> iceroot: Well, the PC version is - I've not tried it on ubuntu
[11:28] <sokak> Anomie21, the whole point is to not handlòe anymore office files :P
[11:29] <Anomie21> sokak: Yes but when 90% of the world uses office it's inevitable
[11:29] <keepguessing> when I run ldconfig -p I see that there are a lot of so mapped to files whose location has changed. how I change these to point to right locations?
[11:29] <sokak> Anomie21, i dont care of the whole world
[11:29] <Anomie21> sokak: Yes but when you have a job you need to.
[11:30] <sokak> Anomie21, i dont have a job :P
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: df -h
[11:30] <DarkStar1> cheers guys
[11:31] <sokak> heyas
[11:31] <dumans> hiii
[11:31] <rasmusth> it says in ubuntu that my gfx is not currently in use
[11:31] <rasmusth> any ideas?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: what video chip
[11:31] <sokak> Question. Is better to shred or to badblock to make an hdd spew all the possible bad sectors?
[11:31] <rasmusth> 9400
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: what manufacturer, both ati and nvidia do a 9400
[11:32] <sokak> rasmusth, using binary nvidia drivers or nuveou?
[11:32] <sokak> agh, cant type properly
[11:33] <rasmusth> sokak I reinstalled them from ssh because it couldn't boot after updating ubuntu
[11:33] <rasmusth> it's nvidea
[11:33] <ikonia> rasmusth: from the nvidia.com website
[11:33] <ikonia> ?
[11:33] <sokak> rasmusth, where you got the drivers? Try xswat ppa :3
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:34] <rasmusth> ActionParsnip: that was what I did
[11:34] <sokak> thats good said
[11:34] <sokak> ahh
[11:34] <simion314> hi, is there a way to enable the fron panel headphone and microphone jacks on a desktop? I found some instructions on google to edit alsa.conf  but i am not sure if that will work in current versions of ubuntu
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> simion314: does the system have a make and model?
[11:35] <sokak> that may work, but on my 570 i feel beter with xswat updated drivers
[11:35] <sokak> rasmusth, you may try as well sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[11:35] <rasmusth> okay sokak
[11:36] <rasmusth> and then afterwards?
[11:36] <sokak> then apt-get update and apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:36] <sokak> or let jokey do graphically the dirty job
[11:36] <simion314> ActionParsnip: this is my motherboard ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3  i can give more details about the hardware if needed
[11:37] <zewb> yes hello
[11:37] <zewb> ifconfig doesnt seem to be working
[11:37] <zewb> in my fresh ubuntu install
[11:37] <sokak> does anybody knows if i can enable pci passtrough on an Asus M4N98TD EVO?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> simion314: if you run:  alsamixer   are all the levels unmuted and cranked?
[11:38] <stephni> my cd rom is not working
[11:38] <SachADay> my multimedia keys are detected but dont work on oneric, they worked in natty
[11:38] <simion314> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:38] <stephni> i insert a cd it won't show anything i go to properties it writes unknown
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> SachADay: if you run:  xev   do they make events?
[11:39] <sokak> SachADay, does xev throws output when you press them?
[11:39] <stephni> somebody help
[11:39] <sokak> hehe sorry ;)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> simion314: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[11:39] <SachADay> yes ActionParship and sokak
[11:39] <sokak> stephni, tried another cd?
[11:39] <simion314> ActionParsnip: the "Headphone" in alsamixer is grayedout/disabled
[11:40] <stephni> i tried all the cd even those ones working before
[11:40] <stephni> the cd rom will just rotate and stop
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> SachADay: then go into the keyboard options and change the desired action to the keypress
[11:40] <stephni> and i is a new cd rom i just changed today
[11:41] <SachADay> yes ActionParssnip and sokak
[11:41] <sokak> stephni, just check twice the wirings, and if the bios sees the drive
[11:41] <rasmusth> sokak: then I reboot right?
[11:41] <stephni> ok
[11:41] <sokak> rasmusth, yeah, and good luck :)
[11:41] <rasmusth> thanks
[11:41] <SachADay> ActionParsnip i've already set the shortcuts
[11:42] <SachADay> ActionParsnip still it never worked
[11:42] <rasmusth> it really makes no sense that people say ubuntu is so out of the box
[11:42] <simion314> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ec31337d93c4e2fc9753ca3a579d612a5d2c1826
[11:42] <sokak> rasmusth, its a matter of luck, on my new rig worked like a breeze
[11:42] <sokak> we can say basically it will work out of the box on the vast majority of rigs
[11:43] <rasmusth> heh
[11:43] <sokak> too old or too new hardware, can give unknown results
[11:43] <rasmusth> how do I check if it is working?
[11:43] <llutz> .. like vast majority of other distros
[11:43] <sokak> i do agree llutz
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> simion314: keep hold of that, its dead useful. My sound troubleshooting isn't great
[11:44] <rasmusth> god
[11:44] <rasmusth> this driver is activated but not currently in use
[11:44] <rasmusth> all because I update ubuntu
[11:44] <rasmusth> well done OS
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: all my hardware does, never had to do anything except on one box I have to install nvidia-current
[11:44] <sokak> im sticking with maverick until ill migrate to arch ;3
[11:45] <simion314> ActionParsnip: thx for your time
[11:45] <rasmusth> does anybody have an idea of how to troubleshoot when my gfx does not get used
[11:46] <JLuc> hello
[11:46] <sokak> rasmusth, usually when i get deadly tired of issues, i wipe any config folder on my home partition, and reinstall from scratch
[11:46] <rasmusth> but I just installed
[11:46] <sokak> oh :3
[11:46] <sinosoidal> hi, i'm trying to get a kernel module loaded at boot time. but it fails to load. i copied the file to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen
[11:46] <rasmusth> like a month ago
[11:47] <sokak> i still have to try anything later than Maverick
[11:47] <sokak> i was cool with that, and i kept sticking with it
[11:48] <sokak> well, sometimes the nvidia driver goes haywire, i should really move with later kernels on a distro without unity or gnome 3 ;3
[11:48]  * SachADay is the first person to kick his own ass
[11:48] <Anomie21> I tried to follow that Oo tutorial but there is no /DEBS/ folder in the extracted folder, so sudo dpkg -i *.deb doesn't work
[11:49] <sokak> Anomie21, tried yet to just get a deb package from Ooo webpage?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> sinosoidal: you may need to run: sudo depmod -a
[11:49] <sinosoidal> ActionParsnip: let me try
[11:50] <Anomie21> sokak: Yeah it was the deb one I downloaded
[11:50] <sokak> Anomie21, and isnt installing any way?
[11:50] <rasmusth> how do I wipe the faulty driver I have for GFX
[11:50] <Anomie21> sokak: OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-GB.tar.gz.
[11:50] <rasmusth> so that I can get back to the one that ubuntu recommended
[11:50] <sinosoidal> ActionParsnip: yeap! it is that
[11:50] <sinosoidal> ;)
[11:50] <Anomie21> sokak: I extracted the .tar.gz but it doesn't have any .deb files in it, it has some .rpm files though?
[11:51] <sokak> rasmusth, apt-get purge nvidia* should work
[11:51] <openbees> when i am trying to copy and paste any file or folder in "/var/www" apache giving me error "403 forbidden" what is the problem how can i overcome to this problem
[11:51] <sokak> Anomie21, look better in their download page, there *is* a deb package :)
[11:51] <JLuc> Is 'alias' command the same as 'ln -s' ?
[11:52] <llutz> JLuc: no
[11:52] <sokak> openbees, permission check anyone?
[11:53] <openbees> sokak : owner is www-data and myuser name is in group
[11:53] <Anomie21> sokak: Yeah, thats the one I've been downloading - from http://download.openoffice.org/other.html labeled ; Linux      x86-64 DEB
[11:54] <html> someone say my name?
[11:54] <orolin> html
[11:54] <html> ? lol  orolin
[11:55] <DarkStar1> how do I find out the current release of my ubuntu?
[11:55] <orolin> you ask you get :)
[11:55] <zewb> HELLO FRIENDS
[11:55] <sokak> DarkStar1, just open the system monitor ;)
[11:55] <zewb> HELLO FRIENDS
[11:55] <FloodBot1> zewb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <llutz> DarkStar1: lsb_release -a
[11:55] <html> lsb_release -sc
[11:55] <openbees>  when i am trying to copy and paste any file or folder in "/var/www" apache giving me error "403 forbidden" what is the problem how can i overcome to this problem
[11:55] <DarkStar1> sokak: I'm on a remote server
[11:55] <DarkStar1> llutz: thx
[11:55] <sokak> :P
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> DarkStar1: lsb_release -sc
[11:56] <sokak> Anomie21, you downloaded it from this link? http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[11:56] <Anomie21> sokak: yep, thats the one
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> openbees: run your file browser with gksudo
[11:57] <sokak> Anomie21, its odd, i downloaded it that way and worked like a breeze :3
[11:57] <DarkStar1> Also I just created a user using useradd but it seems the groups and home directory were not created for it
[11:57] <llutz> DarkStar1:easier to use adduser
[11:57] <Anomie21> What do you do with the .tar.gz? double click it, extract it somewhere and then cd into the extracted directory and try to dpkg?
[11:57] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  i think 'adduser' gives defaults for those. useradd requires you to give the info.
[11:58] <dr_willis> Anomie21:  depends on whats in  the tar.gz
[11:58] <openbees> ActionParsnip : i don't know what do wanna say
[11:58] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: ook
[11:58] <openbees> ActionParsnip :ERROR "I am not getting you"
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> openbees: the foler is not owner by your user, it's owned by root, so you can run:  gjksudo nautilus   and you can write stuff to the folder
[11:59] <openbees> i tried so ..but not working
[12:00] <sokak> openbees, it should work, otherwise something is horribly wrong
[12:00] <tightwork> Is ubuntu ubuntuish?
[12:01] <ikonia> what ?
[12:01] <sokak> Anomie21, yes, the .tar.gz should contain the deb packages, from there you can install them with dpkg, or any other usual way
[12:01] <sokak> tightwork, then arch is architectural >.>
[12:02] <tightwork> how so?
[12:03] <ikonia> tightwork: what are you talking about ?
[12:03] <tightwork> ubuntu
[12:03] <ikonia> tightwork: what about it ?
[12:03] <tightwork> this is #ubuntu right?
[12:04] <sokak> tightwork, seems so. Define ubuntuish plox.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> tightwork  the ubuntu support channel, so do you have a support question
[12:04] <tightwork> I do
[12:05] <diverdude> ahhhh my new W520 Lenovo lean mean terminator killing machine has arrived :D ohhhhhh daddy
[12:06] <sokak> congrats
[12:06] <rasmusth> omgh
[12:06] <diverdude> thx....thats gonna run ubuntu 11.10
[12:08] <sokak> does exists a tweak to have devede installed with libavformat52,libpostproc51 and libswscale0?
[12:08] <sokak> im getting used to ffmpeg, but i would like to have it back for some lazy encding tasks.
[12:12] <red> I put my laptop to play music and connected it to the microphone port of my main PC -- I can see the "rear microphone line input" in sound panel moving so the sound is getting to my PC -- how do I make it audible directly?
[12:12] <sokak> well, kudos to you all nice people, quitting for now :)
[12:14] <red> oo, figured it out
[12:16] <sattu94> Hi, i have set up a vnc server, on ubuntu lucid. Can i have a login screen (like xdm) shown when a person logs in through vnc connection ?
[12:17] <Anomie21> Hmm, downloaded the .PPD for my printer, test page printed fine. But cant see the printer from within Libreoffice?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21: does the printer show in the systsm-printer-config  app?
[12:18] <sattu94> instead of the earlier session that was active ?
[12:18] <Anomie21> ActionParsnip: If that's the app that appears when you type 'Printers' into the alt-f2 panel in unity, then yeah
[12:18] <html> almoxarife,  heloo?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21: same thing :0
[12:20] <Anomie21> ActionParsnip: nevermind, restarted Libreoffice and it was there. :)
[12:21] <Antonis> Hello I have recently installed ubuntu 11.10 and I face some problem when I move files from one partition to another. I didn't have this problem when I was running ubuntu 10.10 but now I move 3 movies (~4GB in total) and the whole system freezes during the whole transfer/move process.. what could be causing this? I also tried to move using terminal to be sure it's not a nautilus matter but same there..
[12:21] <rasmusth> AMAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAD
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Anomie21: sweet
[12:23] <rasmusth> now my ubuntu is stuck at ubuntu loading screen with all dots blue
[12:23] <raidgh0st> Trying to figure out why ubuntu says i have 15700mb ram and not 16
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: do you use onboard video?
[12:24] <raidgh0st> ActionParsnip: using my Ati radeon Hd 6900
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: may be the ram allotment for the pciexpress slot
[12:25] <raidgh0st> But thats okey. 15700 is still alot:p
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: damn right
[12:25] <raidgh0st> What is the diff from FGLRX (post-release-updates
[12:25] <raidgh0st> and the one without (post-release-updates)
[12:26] <yogg> Have someone an idea how i can get the dns server from dhcp, but not change the configuration of my interfaces?
[12:26] <iceroot> raidgh0st: apt-get changelog packagename
[12:27] <sipior> yogg: yes, you can specify exactly what information you'd like from the dhcp server. have a look at the dhclient.conf man page.
[12:28] <raidgh0st> iceroot: must be more spesific
[12:28] <ikonia> yogg: you tell the dhcp server to offer dns servers, however it is very unnormal to do this without offering an IP
[12:28] <yogg> sipior: thx
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> yogg: do you not get IP via DHCP too?
[12:28] <iceroot> raidgh0st: apt-get source packagename  and then diff the packages
[12:29] <yogg> ikonia: i can't change anything on the dhcp server    i only can ask him for the dns servers ^^
[12:29] <ikonia> yogg: why are you trying to do this /
[12:30] <yogg> ikonia: I would not insert the dns servers not into my resolv,conf but in my "/etc/bind/named.conf.options" as forwarders
[12:31] <ikonia> yogg: that is not a dhcp option
[12:31] <ikonia> yogg: dhcp does not configure names.conf
[12:31] <yogg> i know
[12:31] <ikonia> yogg: ok, so what exactly are you trying to do and why ?
[12:31] <Antonis> anyone?
[12:32] <yogg> ikonia: i write an script that gets the dns servers from dhcp and write it to the bind conf as forwarders
[12:32] <iceroot> Antonis: fat32?
[12:32] <ikonia> yogg: do the dns servers change from dhcp or are they the same ones you get each time ?
[12:32] <Antonis> iceroot, no.. from ext4 to NTFS or from NTFS to NTFS
[12:32] <raidgh0st> seems like the post update is new
[12:33] <raidgh0st> and the other one is a old
[12:33] <iceroot> Antonis: any usefull errors when using cp on the shell?
[12:33] <iceroot> raidgh0st: the versions and changelogs will tell you
[12:33] <Antonis> iceroot, nothing everything works fine but it takes a hell of a time (that didn't happen before) and the whole system freezes in periods
[12:33] <rasmusth> guys
[12:33] <rasmusth> can any of you help me?
[12:33] <yogg> ikonia: i have something like an router. the router provides an dns server and must provide all dns informations behind him (forwarders). And the router moves from one network to another
[12:33] <rasmusth> my GFX is constantly not in use
[12:34] <iceroot> Antonis: is "top" showing a high value for "%wa"?
[12:34] <raidgh0st> Hurray. I got a error: Sorry, but the install failed. see logfile for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[12:34] <Antonis> iceroot, what is %wa?
[12:34] <ikonia> yogg: this does not sound lke a good solution
[12:34] <yogg> ikonia: what would be a better one?
[12:34] <ikonia> yogg: running a dns server on a changing ip network  is not good
[12:35] <iceroot> Antonis: the value for io-wait
[12:35] <raidgh0st> iceroot: http://login.kristshell.net/~raidghost/jockey.txt
[12:35] <yogg> ikonia: the network on the "lan" side does not change    only on the "wan" side
[12:35] <ikonia> yogg: that is bad then, you should not be running a local dns server on a machine that is changing WAN hosts
[12:35] <ikonia> yogg: use the dns servers provided for you, rather than running a local one
[12:36] <Antonis> iceroot, I am transfering files right now and top is running but nautilus is not there
[12:36] <yogg> ikonia: the local one is a must have. else it would not be possible to reach the webinterface of this "router" with "www.example.local"
[12:37] <ikonia> yogg: sorry, I disagree and I disagree with the solution.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> yogg: local dns makes web access faster. I always install dnsmasq on systems :)
[12:37] <ikonia> simpley put an entry in the host file for the router
[12:37] <Yanch0> guys anyone can help me set up a wifi pci card. the drivers have been installed using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 .. using wifiradar i can see the WEP connection im trying to connect to. however when i try to connect it keeps on connecting and no error yet it doesnt connect
[12:38] <dmorfin> ikonia: the thousands of people using dd-wrt (and dnsmasq) disagree with you ;)
[12:38] <spow> Hi, i'm hqving problems with unity on 11.10 so I installed and used gnome classic instead, but no icons appear on my desktop anymore, even though they still exist in the FS
[12:38] <yogg> ikonia: i have not found a better solution. but if you have an idea it would be nice :)
[12:38] <ikonia> yogg: just put an entry in your host file
[12:38] <yogg> ActionParsnip: yes dnsmasq was my first idea but i needed more
[12:39] <spow> I can't drag/drop files from anywhere to the desktop, and that zorked on unity
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> yogg: more what?
[12:40] <yogg> ActionParsnip: configuration options, and a own dns zone (example.local)
[12:40] <yogg> ikonia: can i change the host file on a other system over dhcp?
[12:40] <dmorfin> yogg: I had bind running like that for 10+ years, so I don't see the problem.  Just make sure you keep your forwarders in line with the wan network if possible.
[12:41] <spow> should I go back to 10.xx ?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yogg: you can set static DNS in network manager, set the interface to DHCP (address only) then set the DNS servers to: 127.0.0.1, 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> yogg: the hosts file isn't much to do with dhcp dude, it wil simply override dns
[12:42] <ikonia> yogg: no, but then you can't change anything over DHCP as you said you can't change the dhcp server
[12:42] <yogg> dmorfin: the problem was to get the dns servers from the dhcp server and do not change any interface configuration. But with dhclient.conf i can manage it
[12:43] <yogg> ActionParsnip: ikonia: dmorfin: i write down what my device should do. Takes a few minutes :)
[12:44] <raidgh0st> I gonna be in the light.
[12:45] <dmorfin> yogg: I had my dhcp server set to send dns as just my local dns server.  everything worked fine, even when I switched wan networks.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> yogg: if you use dnsmasq, you will need to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf to till it to listen to 127.0.0.1
[12:45] <dmorfin> yogg: and yes, as ActionParsnip says, 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are decent forwarders, assuming your different wan networks have different dns, and you can't switch easily
[12:46] <rasmusth> This driver is activated but not currently in use. How do I fix this problem?
[12:46] <ravedog> anyone that is a cfengine guru here?
[12:47] <almoxarife> rasmusth: that's a bug, i see the same thing and mine is in use, google it
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> yogg: over time, dnsmasq will learn most of the resolutions you need :)
[12:48] <rasmusth> almoxarife: I dont understand why xbmc would use 100% cpu in menu then
[12:48] <Antonis> so iceroot any ideas?
[12:48] <raidgh0st> ActionParsnip: for some seconds i thought you said "dmesg will learn mo9st of the resolutions you need :p
[12:49] <raidgh0st> I really see a diff from p4 2.2Ghz 4Gb ram and a i5 3.0Ghz with ssd
[12:49] <Antonis> could it be the way I mount the ntfs drives?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: heheh
[12:49] <iceroot> Antonis: not really
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: put your browser web cache in tempfs or on a platter based drive
[12:50] <iceroot> Antonis: you are using ntfs-3g? can you show the complete mount-options? "mount" will show them
[12:50] <Antonis> iceroot, give me a second cause I am moving files right now and everything freezes
[12:51] <Yanch0> all i'm seeing in dmesg | tail is : [  737.468271] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> raidgh0st: it'll reduce wear on the SSD as well as speed up web browsing
[12:51] <iceroot> Antonis: ok
[12:52] <almoxarife> rasmusth: can't say, I don't see the same cpu hogging, btw, does xbmc see the gpu?
[12:52] <Antonis> iceroot, should I paste them here or somewhere else? or do you want just one of them?
[12:53] <rasmusth> almoxarife: no
[12:53] <yogg> ikonia: ActionParsnip: dmorfin: I hope this explains my problem better: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/519673/
[12:54] <almoxarife> rasmusth: do you have the bios option to force the gpu rather the onboard? assuming you have that setup?
[12:55] <rasmusth> I have only one gpu
[12:55] <rasmusth> no onboard
[12:55] <Antonis> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/767838/
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> yogg: bad link afaics, can you PM the text :)
[12:56] <dr_willis> xbmc does use fancy compositing and other eye candy i recall.  never noticed it being much of a load on my nvidia systems.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> yogg: my admins are strict and the proxy hates pastebins
[12:56] <Mitos> hi
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> hi Mitos
[12:56] <html> hi
[12:57] <Antonis> also iceroot I use a tool to automount them (in ubuntu 10.10 I did it myself through fstab)
[12:57] <rasmusth> would the fact that I boot to 2D have anything to say?
[12:57] <iceroot> Antonis: sorry i am busy at the moment i will try to look through it later
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <Mitos> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10 in virtualbox... If I set 2 network card(one nat and one internal network) connections don't work... If I set only Nat connection works...
[12:57] <Antonis> ok no problem just let me know when you can =)
[12:59] <Mitos> maybe I need special package... I use ubuntu minimal...
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: how are you defining the network addressing?
[13:00] <Mitos> internal network: 192.168.66.1 subnet 255.255.255.0
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: no, what are you using to set the address, not what is the address
[13:01] <Mitos> I used vboxmanage.exe dhcpclient add etc...
[13:01] <Mitos> With ifconfig I saw the network cards, eth0 and eth1, with right ip and subnet...
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: so all the addressing comes from dhcp?
[13:02] <Mitos> yes, from dhcp...
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: you may need to set the internal as static so it doesn't get a default gateway set
[13:04] <Mitos> with lubuntu desktop edition I haven't problems... I use the same configuration, with two cards, and I don't have problems...
[13:04] <Mitos> can you explain better your solution please?
[13:05] <rasmusth> how can I test if my gfx is being used on ubuntu 11.10
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: if your system has 2 default gateways it will get confused
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> rasmusth: run 3d things like games
[13:06] <Mitos> How can test if I have two gateway???
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: ifconfig; route    should tell you a lot
[13:07] <Mitos> one moment :)
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> Mitos  type dig
[13:07] <fa1c0n> :(
[13:08] <html> dhcp what mean , and whats it do?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> html  dhcp gives ip addresses to your network devices
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> html  dhcp means dynamic host control protocol or something
[13:09] <Mitos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/767847/
[13:11] <querier> Hi :) What is the very basic list of packages ubuntu needs to run? I dont mind if e.g. libreoffice is turned off/deleted
[13:11] <dr_willis> !minimal
[13:11] <dr_willis> querier:  depends on what you want running. :) X or not.. and so on.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> querier: you can install ubuntu minimal then install openbox for a very small install
[13:12] <Mitos> ActionParsnip Did you see my paste???
[13:13] <querier> dr_willis: yes X is fine. ActionParsnip well ubuntu is installed and should be slimmed now.
[13:13] <DarkStar1> how do I add myself to the admin group?
[13:13] <llutz> DarkStar1: if you aren't root and no sudo-user, you can't
[13:14] <llutz> DarkStar1: sudo adduser username admin
[13:14] <DarkStar1> llutz: thx
[13:14] <diverdude> Hello...is there a better interface than the unity and gnome in ubuntu?
[13:14] <luis_> hi there, wanted some support on some trouble with suspend: when trying to do it, goes to black screen and then back to the userspace. here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/767854/
[13:15] <searching> firefox type ubuntu % hit enter and no list why? is bug?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: i cant view pasts, my admins have clamped down the web to the maxxx
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: can you PM me the text please
[13:16] <mick_laptop> diverdude: there are a few, there is xfce, kde and there are others. google: linux window manager and look at youtube/image search
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> luis_: what GPU are you using?
[13:16] <luis_> ActionParsnip, how can I figure that out?
[13:17] <mick_laptop> searching: I don't understand
[13:17] <Mitos> Is it possible from webchat to send you PM???
[13:17] <searching> type ubuntu and % in firefox
[13:17] <luis_> ActionParsnip, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[13:17] <searching> and hit enter
[13:18] <html> moneydust thanks
[13:18] <html> \
[13:18] <searching> open google with firefox and type ubuntu % hit enter
[13:18] <mick_laptop> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[13:18] <searching> no list :))
[13:18] <mick_laptop> no list of what?
[13:19] <searching> of searching
[13:19] <DarkStar1> llutz: added my user to the admin group and uncommented the admin line in sudoers but i still can't sudo from my user
[13:19] <llutz> DarkStar1: relogin
[13:19] <mick_laptop> it opens up google and does a search for "ubuntu %"
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | luis_
[13:19] <searching> yes
[13:19] <DarkStar1> llutz: as my user I have already relogged
[13:20] <mick_laptop> searching: that is the expected result
[13:20] <searching> something ubuntu,linux
[13:20] <llutz> DarkStar1: "uncommented the admin line in sudoers"  why was it commented?
[13:20] <searching> no result
[13:20] <luis_> thanks ActionParsnip, could this be interfering with hibernation too? cause i'm having the same problem with it
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> luis_: doubt it
[13:21] <mick_laptop> searching: what exactly are you expecting to happen. give me a sentence not a word
[13:21] <DarkStar1> llutz: I assume the % sign meant it's a commented line. but it was the default installation
[13:22] <llutz> DarkStar1: its not a comment, its a group. change it BACK
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> DarkStar1  # is a commented line
[13:22] <luis_> could you help me with that too ActionParsnip? i've posted a bug, but no response so far
[13:22] <luis_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898615
[13:22] <DarkStar1> llutz:  oops!
[13:29] <luis_> i'm needing help with an hibernation problem.  i've posted a bug, but no response so far https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898615
[13:32] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> luis_: does suspend work?
[13:33] <luis_> didn't tried yet
[13:33] <luis_> was waiting for an answer on the hibernate problem
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> luis_: its teh same ilk so if that works then it will be useful to add to the bug...
[13:34] <luis_> oh ok, ActionParsnip , i'll give it a try and then come back here
[13:38] <super789> hello
[13:38] <super789> where can i find the compatible pci wirelesse card to Lubuntu?
[13:38] <super789> *the list
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[13:38] <Mitos> thanks to ActionParsnip... I solved my problem... I add to /etc/network/interfaces auto eth1;iface eth1 inet dhcp
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: nice
[13:39] <Loqus_> In Ubuntu how do I set the MAC address of a VLAN interface?
[13:39] <super789> Lubuntu haves the same support has ubuntu?
[13:39] <iceroot> Loqus_: you cant (imo) its always the mac from the real NIC
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> super789: yes its an official release now :)
[13:39] <iceroot> super789: wtih 11.10 yes
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Loqus_: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[13:39] <Monotoko> super789, there isn't a list as such... but most PCI wifi cards should be compatible
[13:40] <Mitos> I don't understand why ubuntu doesn't released with no program... I don't need office,games,calc...
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Loqus_: or that way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022301
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: use minimal then and install only what you need, its what I do
[13:40] <Monotoko> Mitos, because the majority of people want it to just work out of the box... the good thing about Linux though is you can build a distro, and there are thousands out there
[13:41] <Mitos> I use minimal but it needs too work...
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Mitos: it will
[13:41] <dagerik> when i call execvp("ps", args); the newly formed process never exits. how can i exit it?
[13:42] <wide_awake> good morning
[13:42] <Pici> dagerik: That would be a more appropriate question for ##C
[13:42] <wide_awake> how can I tell unity to open a second instance of an app (specifically nautilus)
[13:43] <Mitos> bye :)
[13:43] <Loqus_> Thanks ActionParsnip... I know I can change it on a physical MAC, but I wasn't sure how it would work on a VLAN MAC... when changing a physical MAC, the Interface's HW MAC register is changed so that outgoing frames are generated with the new MAC (on restart this is reset on the HW, then changed back by the OS on config)... but on a VLAN does it dynamically change the frame SRC MAC register with each outgoing frame, or does it do so
[13:43] <theadmin> wide_awake: It doesn't do that... Try Ctrl+T in Nautilus and such other shortcuts. Nautilus is tabbed for a reason :P
[13:44] <wide_awake> theadmin, I hate to admit, but I never knew that nautilus was tabbed before ;)
[13:44] <wide_awake> theadmin, thanks!
[13:44] <theadmin> wide_awake: np
[13:44] <geet> hello I need help in adding pthread library to gcc
[13:45] <super789> i can buy the TL-WN851N but in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link it appears that is haves some problems in 11.04 but i have 11.10 lubuntu. how can i know if the problem has been fixed?
[13:45] <luis_> ActionParsnip, nomodeset didn't work. It even disabled high resolution and Unity 3d
[13:45] <geet> Hello...Need Help
[13:45] <querier> theadmin: nautilus doesnt want you to drag and drop with 2 open windows?
[13:45] <dr_willis> cant just middle click on the nautilus icon?
[13:46] <dr_willis> F3 in nautilus also opens a split window i belive
[13:46] <BarkingFish> geet, have patience. If you wait for a while, someone will get round to helping you :)
[13:46] <dr_willis> geet:  thers also more programming specific chennels
[13:47] <geet> can u recommend one?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> super789: check bug reports, personally I wouldn't bother if its had issues, look for broadcom based ones. Cheap and easy
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> geet  you could start by asking a question
[13:47] <geet> I need help for adding pthread.h in gcc
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> geet  that's no question
[13:48] <geet> I want to know how can I add that library
[13:48] <geirha> geet: What do you mean by "add that library"?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> geet  too vague, start from the beginning, what do you want to do and what is the purpose
[13:49] <geet> I get error "Undefined reference to pthread_create()
[13:50] <geirha> geet: gcc -lpthread ...
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> super789: my Netgear WG311T works out of the box:)
[13:50] <geet> but this wont compile my program
[13:51] <super789> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:51] <jordanm> geet: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search /pthread.h
[13:51] <Yanch0> guys anyone can help me set up a wifi pci card. the drivers have been installed using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 .. using wifiradar i can see the WEP connection im trying to connect to. however when i try to connect it keeps on connecting and no error yet it doesnt connect . all im seeing in dmesg | tail is : [  737.468271] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12
[13:51] <NYPR-1> Hi: I need some guidance on how to install and get my WiFi card working.  I have an old Presario laptop and have found the correct driver.  I do not have the instruction to run the the file. I know that I need to go to the terminal but once there I am lost.
[13:52] <geirha> jordanm: I'm pretty sure libc6-dev gets installed along with gcc
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> NYPR-1: if you run: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i produ     what is output?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Yanch0  NYPR-1 explore the terminal commands iwlist and iwconfig
[13:53] <jordanm> geirha: it should, since its a recommends, but it is possible that it has not. if the user has changed their apt configuration
[13:53] <luis_> ActionParsnip, nomodeset didn't work. It even disabled widescreen resolution and switched to Unity 2D
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Yanch0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/459716
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> luis_: could try the alternate install, install in text mode
[13:53] <Guest43654> Yanch0: that often happens to me whenever I forget to take my device out of monitor mode and put it into managed mode
[13:54] <jordanm> geirha: aptitude install gcc -R will get you gcc without libc6-dev
[13:54] <Yanch0> happygolucky, how to do that please?
[13:55] <geirha> jordanm: Ah, right. Though a missing header file would give a different error. I really think he just hadn't linked the library.
[13:55] <luis_> ActionParsnip, what do you mean by alternate install? this is not a problem on installing. The hibernate and suspend worked perfectly before updating to 11.10 .
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luis_: there may be a safemode vga option in the boot
[13:55] <geirha> jordanm: But, we'll probably never know now :)
[13:55] <luis_> ActionParsnip, I can check that, but as far as I recall there isn't
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> luis_: maybe the upgrade borked it, could try a clean install
[13:56] <Yanch0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/767896/ <= im trying to connect to Cell 03
[13:56] <luis_> ActionParsnip, there's no way to work around the problem? it wasn't a direct 11.10 install, but a 11.04 update
[13:57] <luis_> ActionParsnip, it seems like there is some process preventing the suspension
[13:57] <happygolucky> Yanch0: hm, well try ifconfig <device> down and then iwconfig <device> mode managed and then ifconfig <device> up and then if it still doesn't connect try changing the cards channel to 6 or whaterver it needs to be
[13:58] <luis_> ActionParsnip, because when i log in with other user (command line) it works
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> luis_: have you added that to the bug?
[13:59] <luis_> what i wanted is some way to detect and troubleshoot that. the logs won't give me even the slightest idea of what is happening
[13:59] <luis_> i'm adding it right away
[14:00] <luis_> what's getting me crazy is that it works some times and other times not.
[14:01] <cockerino> ciao
[14:01] <cockerino> !list
[14:01] <cockerino> send list
[14:02] <bbbbbbbb> is there a way to stop network manager for the current session?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !it | cockerino
[14:04] <happygolucky> bbbbbbbb: service network-manager stop
[14:05] <bbbbbbbb> happygolucky: thanks!
[14:05] <happygolucky> bbbbbbbb: you're welcome np
[14:06] <nixmaniack> is it ok to make '/etc/pm/power.d/01cpu_online'  non executable? My CPUs go offline quite often
[14:06] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[14:07] <chao> i'm using xfce
[14:09] <yogg> "dhclient -n" "-n Do not configure any interfaces.". If i do this the command does nothing. it simply hangs and does not request an address. Is this a bug (Ubuntu 10.04.3)?
[14:10] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[14:10] <DarkStar1> quick question, if I want to store some alias commands should I leave them in the .profile or create the bash_profile? I read in .profile that creating a bash_profile will cause .profile to be ignored
[14:10] <sipior> yogg: it's doing what you told it to do; i.e., nothing :-)
[14:10] <cockerino> ciao
[14:11] <cockerino> xdcc list
[14:11] <yogg> sipior: it should not make an configuration, but it should send an dhcp request
[14:11] <sipior> yogg: not according to the man page.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> cockerino, no downloads here !
[14:12] <yogg> sipior: "Do not configure any interfaces." does imply "also send no dhcp request"?
[14:12] <sipior> yogg: yes.
[14:12] <cockerino> !list
[14:12] <yogg> sipior: hmmm   this sucks
[14:12] <super789> a question related to wirless
[14:12] <DarkStar1> anyone?
[14:12] <sipior> yogg: why, what are you attempting?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> somebody kick that idiot , cockerino
[14:13] <super789> for normal web surfing the max speed of the wireless card make much diference?
[14:13] <sipior> BluesKaj: he does seem to be a slow learner...
[14:13] <super789> for example 54mbps vs 300mbps
[14:13] <yogg> sipior: i need some information (dns server) from the dhcp server but would not configure my interfaces
[14:13] <dr_willis> super789:  not that ive notived
[14:14] <dr_willis> super789:  for flash videos and so forth. it can.
[14:14] <Guest13329> Hi, epiphany browser crashes when I try to add a bookmark. I saw in launchpad that there have been some related issues. Do I need to report this?
[14:15] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  one of those config files mention an .alias file you can put them in.
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  italians use internet for file sharing only, they have no 'internet culture'
[14:15] <dr_willis> DarkStar1:  ~/.bash_aliases
[14:15] <super789> dr_willis: condering that the connection only allow 300kpbs thoes 54mpbs will never be in full use
[14:15] <super789> or it is diferent tpes of speed?
[14:16] <DarkStar1> dr_willis: that aliases file doesn't exist so I guess I'll have to create it. Thx
[14:16] <xsaidx> hello g guys what does this package  libgl1-mesa-swx11
[14:16] <CrazyThinker> I cannot see all the notification icons even if I set the dconf settings as ['all']
[14:16] <sipior> yogg: hmm. might be useful: http://pydhcplib.tuxfamily.org/pmwiki/ , or http://code.google.com/p/dhquery/
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> xsaidx  type apt-cache policy [package]
[14:17] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, my understanding is that they've led to beleive that ubuntu chat is a file sharing room ny some misinformed Italian publication, or it's just a nasty tricj on the mags part :P.
[14:17] <sipior> yogg: there's also dhcping, in the repositories. i haven't tried that, but you might look into it.
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> xsaidx  or type apt-cache search [package]
[14:17] <diverdude> ahhhhh after 2 months in mac hell I'm BACK on ubuntu :D
[14:17] <BluesKaj> err trick
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  i've heard that italians use irc channels mainly to get information about file sharing
[14:18] <Hotkeys> I am using ubuntu 11.10 desktop. I cannot get my programs to save to our network share.  I can  write to the share drive with nautilus by cut/pasting from anywhere on my local machine. This is a clean install of 11.10 and libreoffice generates input/output error when trying to save to the share. The share is hosted on Centos. If I run libreoffice as sudo, it fixes the problem, and saves to the share. The problem is I don't want to run my programs suc
[14:19] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, not all italians who use the internet, those who speak english seem to know better
[14:20] <Pici> !ot  | BluesKaj MonkeyDust
[14:20] <happygolucky> Hotkeys: have you checked the integrity of the target machine, you're saying input output erroring, sounds bad
[14:20] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[14:20] <Hotkeys> happygolucky this is our corporate network share. Nobody else is having problems and I can save to it fine using sudo
[14:21] <yogg> sipior: thx   dhcping looks good i hope i get something out ^^
[14:21] <xsaidx> guys in natty can i install galuim-based driver and which package shud i install thanks
[14:21] <sipior> yogg: actually, if you dig into the dhclient.conf man page, there might be another option. you could use the "request" option, and then "supercede" all the answers you get. the information would still be received on your end (just ignored)
[14:21] <jpolo> hi everybody
[14:21] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  look in .gvfs for the mounted directory of the share. try saveing to it that way
[14:22] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  you can save to a samba share via sudo? thats very.... weird...
[14:22] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  or is it a nfs share?
[14:22] <jpolo> I am stuck at the "checking battery state" at boot time can some one help me please?
[14:23] <yogg> sipior: i have an dhclient.conf with only "request domain-name-servers;". but it still reconfigures my interface after the request
[14:25] <Deep> hi, i am on ubuntu, trying to install a video editor, and it says the only way its by Launchpad repo
[14:25] <Deep> anyone knows how to use it?
[14:26] <mick_laptop> anyone know how I can bridge a wifi and ethernet connection?  wifirouter -> wlan0 (laptop) -> eth0 (laptop) -----shared to -----> eth0 (desktop)
[14:27] <xangua> Deep: open software center from the dash
[14:27] <mick_laptop> I tried to use NetworkManager and select "shared to other computers" under eth0 and so far nothing
[14:27] <mick_laptop> I've also checked ip forwarding in the kernel, it is enabled
[14:28] <mick_laptop> I'd like the desktop to get a dhcp lease from the router (bridged from the laptop's wifi)
[14:30] <felipe_Brz> if I include various files and folder in the apache2.conf file (as per the default ubuntu setup), can I just alter the order of the includes to make the last ones override the previous onds?
[14:32] <felipe_Brz> (i asked this at httpd channel but this is apparently closer related to the ubuntu setup rather than apache itself)
[14:32] <bdi> Hello...im trying to do sudo apt-get install libapache-mod-php5, but it get E: Package 'libapache-mod-php5' has no installation candidate....Has this package been removed?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> bdi  to find out, type apt-cache search libapache-mod*
[14:33] <iceroot> bdi: libapache2-mod-php5
[14:35] <arlo_> anyone can help me with subdomain in apache?
[14:36] <henry9k1> hello peeps
[14:36] <henry9k1> I'm having some problems with a ubuntu 8.10
[14:36] <henry9k1> I can't find the latest public repos for it
[14:36] <bdi> Oh my god....everything is just working...its amazing....damn it feels good to get away from mac and their totally  screwed distro
[14:36] <EvilResistance> !8.10 | henry9k1
[14:36] <henry9k1> !eol
[14:36] <arlo_> anyone can help me with subdomain in apache? in teamewiewer?
[14:36] <arlo_> i have little problem
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> henry9k1  8.10 is no longer supported
[14:36] <henry9k1> alright
[14:36] <EvilResistance> henry9k1:  basically, 8.10 is no longer supported since its lifespan ended.
[14:36] <EvilResistance> as MonkeyDust said
[14:37] <henry9k1> well, I'm reading ubuntu 9 install instructions and it tells me to update it fully before installing 9
[14:37] <henry9k1> and I find no repos to update it from
[14:37] <henry9k1> should I just slap the 9 on it?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> henry9k1  i gues ubuntu is no longer supported, either
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> henry9k1  i gues ubuntu 9 is no longer supported, either
[14:38] <Pici> henry9k1: Neither 9.04 or 9.10 are supported.
[14:38] <henry9k1> well damn
[14:38] <bastidrazor> henry9k1: go for the gold with 10.04
[14:38] <Pici> henry9k1: Non LTS releases are supported for 18 months. 8.10 is over 3 years old.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> henry9k1, you have to try to stay a bit more current with your distro
[14:39] <henry9k1> I'm working on a friend's computer
[14:39] <qqq> mint ,supported until April 2013
[14:39] <henry9k1> personally I'm an arch man
[14:40] <edbian> lovin' arch
[14:40] <qqq> it is good
[14:40] <henry9k1> <3
[14:40] <qqq> mint 9
[14:40] <henry9k1> soo
[14:40] <henry9k1> I've got another dilemma then
[14:40] <henry9k1> no keyboards work during boot up
[14:40] <nvz> anyone know how I can turn of the composite extension in X on Ubuntu 11.04?
[14:40] <henry9k1> but I have the admin password though
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> henry9k1  get rid of that friend :p
[14:41] <nvz> either that or how I can get a newer intel graphics driver in 11.04
[14:41] <henry9k1> any way I can get a 10.10 on this thing?
[14:41] <qqq>  try mint 9
[14:41] <henry9k1> without needing a boot
[14:41] <Pici> qqq: Mint is not supported here, please stop suggesting it.
[14:41] <exodus_ms> how can I find what version of php is installed with lamp-server^ on 10.04
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> exodus_ms  apt-cache policy
[14:42] <kapcom01> hello, i need a little help with duplicity (deja dup) https://bugs.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+bug/487720/comments/55
[14:42] <exodus_ms> thank you MonkeyDust
[14:42] <exodus_ms> MonkeyDust, maybe I'm missing something but that just repos?
[14:42] <bdi> on mac i have this really cool cloud system where i can take a screendump and automatically its uploaded to the cloud system in a web-accessable location, and the link to the image is put into my keyboard. Can i do this on ubuntu also somehow?
[14:43] <skilly> nick raws_raws
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> exodus_ms  yes
[14:44] <exodus_ms> MonkeyDust, I need php PHP 5.3.2 installed. is there a way I can check if that version is included in the lamp-server package?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> exodus_ms  hm, no, can't say
[14:45] <exodus_ms> MonkeyDust, ok, thanks for your help
[14:46] <jumoit> any ideas on "read out loud" in adobe reader 9 running on ubuntu 10.0 lts?
[14:46] <Hotkeys> dr_willis  THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!..........its been months trying to find a solution. FINALLY. Thank you Thank you Thank you. I added a bookmark to .gvfs and i can save now. You rock
[14:46] <diverdude> anyone?
[14:47] <diverdude> Hotkeys, what was the problem?
[14:47] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  always found it annoying they dont make a link from .gvfs to like "Network"
[14:47] <Hotkeys> "" I am using ubuntu 11.10 desktop. I cannot get my programs to save to our network share.  I can  write to the share drive with nautilus by cut/pasting from anywhere on my local machine. This is a clean install of 11.10 and libreoffice generates input/output error when trying to save to the share. The share is hosted on Centos. If I run libreoffice as sudo, it fixes the problem, and saves to the share. The problem is I don't want to run my programs 
[14:47] <dr_willis> Hotkeys:  non gnome apps just dont often like the whole 'smb://whatever/whever' type  paths :)
[14:48] <Hotkeys> I see, yes that makes sense now
[14:48] <diverdude> dr_willis, do you know if there is a ubuntu-upload screendumps functionality?
[14:48] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[14:48] <dr_willis> diverdude:  there may be some indicator-applets to help automate it. (check askubuntu.com)
[14:49] <diverdude> dr_willis, i know how to make a screenshot...but i want it to be automatically uploaded to a webserver and get the link in the clipboard
[14:51] <dr_willis> diverdude:  check indicator-applets list at askubuntu i guess.. :) ive seen a lot of new ones there in the past few weeks
[14:52] <Sharpshooter> any body know any application that connect mobile phone camera as webcam
[14:52] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system?
[14:54] <Sharpshooter> any body know any application that connect mobile phone camera as webcam?
[14:55] <dr_willis> Sharpshooter:  it would depend on your phone i imagine.
[14:56] <Tibor> hello?
[14:56] <dr_willis> Sharpshooter:  there may be an app for your phone that does it.
[14:56] <dr_willis> Jello Tibor .
[14:56] <diverdude> dr_willis, dont seem to be any apps for that :(
[14:58] <Sharpshooter> dr_willis, Ya one app is ther named smartcam but it is outofdate  not for 11.10
[14:58] <willwhite> Has anyone else run into problems getting PPAs to show up in Ubuntu Software Center? Similar issue to: http://askubuntu.com/questions/54268/why-arent-my-ppas-showing-up-in-the-ubuntu-software-center
[14:58] <Sharpshooter> dr_willis, any way to install that app in 11.10
[14:59] <dr_willis> Sharpshooter:  compile from source
[14:59] <dr_willis> Sharpshooter:  look for a ppa
[14:59] <dr_willis> I imagine it very much depends on the camera also.
[14:59] <arcsky> does a new kernel getting installed with apt-get upgrade ?
[14:59] <emres> yes
[14:59] <emres> ...
[14:59] <dr_willis> arcsky:  upgrades can install new kernels - yes.
[15:00] <arcsky> "can" ?
[15:00] <emres> YES
[15:00] <arcsky> last time i did it didnt
[15:00] <dr_willis> arcsky:  you can always try a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' if it dosent
[15:00] <emres> it wil ionstal all upgrads avalible new kernel is upgrade  omfg
[15:00] <emres>  >> google
[15:00] <arcsky> emres: << google
[15:00] <dr_willis> some times things get held back.
[15:00] <emres> not kernels
[15:00] <dr_willis> ive definatly seen kernels get held back.
[15:01] <Sharpshooter> dr_willis, yeah I'm going to try that
[15:01] <emres> dr_willis:  okey my bad.
[15:01] <dr_willis> update, upgrade, dist-upgrade if you want to be super sure i guess..
[15:01] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[15:01] <emres> dont do dist upgrade
[15:01] <emres> ...
[15:01] <Pici> emres: why not?
[15:01] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx
[15:02] <dr_willis> emres:  i do them all the time to pull in held back items.
[15:02] <emres> dr_willis:  hmm strange ind eb times dist upgrades actually upgrade distro to new versions
[15:02] <Pici> emres: A dist-upgrade will pull in packages that have new dependencies, like your kernel metapackage depending on a new kernel update.
[15:02] <dr_willis> emres:  thats a 'release upgrade'
[15:03] <dr_willis> and you use the update manager to do that.
[15:03] <Pici> emres: That will only happen if you have modified your sources.list to point to a new release. That is not the automatic nor intended behavior of dist-upgrade.
[15:03] <Norwack> wich torrent should i download when im going to install ubuntu with Oracle's VirtualBox? (32bit)
[15:03] <emres> i toldu in debian times.
[15:03] <emres>  god damned
[15:03] <dr_willis> Norwack:  normal desktop iso will work
[15:03] <emres> maybe now its diferent
[15:04] <dr_willis> ' hmm strange ind eb times'  <----------- was that what that said?
[15:04] <Norwack> dr_willis: can you please give me a link?
[15:04] <emres> deb
[15:04] <emres> typo
[15:04] <dr_willis> Norwack:  ubuntu.com site has links
[15:04] <dr_willis> !download
[15:04] <phong_> hi guys, is there a way to connect to sftp server in console terminal?
[15:05] <phong_> instead of using sftp client?
[15:05] <dr_willis> phong_:  sshfs  is handy to mount a remote ssh server to a local direcory
[15:05] <edbian> phong_: the sftp command
[15:05] <phong_> edbian, how to use sftp command?
[15:05] <phong_> edbian, one example?
[15:05] <emres> btw is there a way to tell a girl how to install win 7  fropm usb on netbook with kubuntu installed by me  so it will not fu uyp grub? cuz shes dumb
[15:05] <Norwack> 8.04 still work?
[15:05] <pangolin> !language | emres
[15:05] <phong_> sftp server_ip ??
[15:05] <Norwack> or bugs? <- what i meatn
[15:05] <edbian> phong_: well there is a man page in man ftp.  Let me translate it to an example for you
[15:05] <Norwack> ment
[15:06] <K350> Are there any alternatives to Compiz if I want to have a rotating cube, negative and zoom?
[15:06] <phong_> oh come on
[15:06] <dr_willis> !8.04
[15:06] <dr_willis> Norwack:  its past EOL on desktop.
[15:06] <edbian> phong_: oh come on what?
[15:06] <Norwack> well, i enjoyed the 8.04 layout better than the new one
[15:07] <edbian> phong_: it's sftp user@hostname:/path/to/stuff   (hostname could be an IP of course) and
[15:07] <phong_> edbian, can't you just show and tell ?
[15:07] <edbian> phong_: I said I would and I just did
[15:07] <dr_willis> Norwack:  gnome2 is basically dead. time to dive into unity, or gnome-shell
[15:07] <edbian> god
[15:07] <phong_> ok thanks
[15:08] <phong_> edbian, got it..it's working
[15:08] <edbian> ur welcome
[15:08] <phong_> the part i'm missing is the user ;)
[15:08] <edbian> phong_: ahh, sure
[15:08] <querier> hey guys: "initctl unknown job" what does it mean ? I placed jobs on /etc/init just before and im calling sudo /sbin/initctl start my-tiny-job from a bash script, called from php.
[15:09] <edbian> phong_: In man sftp you can see the 2nd or 3rd synopsis line
[15:09] <phong_> edbian, is better to have sftp then just ftp right?
[15:09] <Norwack> dr_willis: this then http://morsomt.net/e/6uyfkk.png ?
[15:09] <edbian> phong_: I think so.  But it's best to use ssh and scp
[15:09] <phong_> edbian, so what is the problem with just ftp then?
[15:10] <tibor_> Hey why is there a _ behind my nickname?
[15:10] <phong_> if it is bettter, why is it still exist ftp
[15:10] <edbian> phong_: It's sends password and username in plaintext across the network
[15:10] <edbian> phong_: ftp still exists because it was massively popular and it takes a long time for people to switch
[15:10] <edbian> phong_: sftp isn't terrible though is my understanding.
[15:10] <phong_> oh
[15:10] <querier> dr_willis: do you know what it means? : "initctl unknown job"?
[15:10] <phong_> got it. thanks man u're superb
[15:11] <edbian> phong_: also it's ok to use on a LAN where people don't need passwords to access the files
[15:11] <edbian> sure
[15:11] <tibor_> Hey why is there a "_" behind my nickname?
[15:11] <edbian> tibor_: likely tibor was taken so your client choose tibor_
[15:11] <phong_> ls
[15:11] <dr_willis> querier:  ive seen a few others ask that in here. I belive its some mistake in the init/sysv system. Check askubuntu.com for that exact error message and it may  tell you.
[15:11] <edbian> tibor_ is a character on the simpsons in season 4.  He's the guy homer blames whenever he gits in trouble
[15:11] <edbian> cause he doesn't speak english
[15:11] <phong_> edbian, ubuntu, xubuntu, what ever, they'll all the same thing riight?
[15:12] <edbian> phong_: They have a different graphical interface
[15:12] <dr_willis> phong_:  read on why ftp  must die ---> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[15:12] <phong_> oh
[15:12] <edbian> phong_: Other than that they're pretty much the same
[15:12] <tibor_> edbian: But my name isnt taken
[15:12] <Norwack> only difference i believe
[15:12] <edbian> but that's a huge difference
[15:12] <edbian> tibor_: then do /nick tibor
[15:12] <edbian> and you can get your regular one back
[15:12] <phong_> edbian, do you prefer ubuntu or red hat?
[15:12] <puff> I'm getting hassled to use MS-Word to edit a doc.  How good is openoffice's support for MS-word formats?
[15:12] <edbian> maybe it was taken at the time your client got your name
[15:12] <tibor> edbian: thanks
[15:12] <edbian> phong_: I use several distros.  I don't know what I prefer.  arch I guess?
[15:12] <edbian> tibor: sure
[15:13] <edbian> puff: excellent
[15:13] <edbian> puff: especially for word docs
[15:13] <puff> edbian: Cool... can it handle word's revision tracking feature?
[15:13] <phong_> edbian, why ubuntu runs faster then mac os x or windows ?
[15:13] <phong_> so fast man
[15:13] <edbian> puff: mmm, IDK
[15:13] <tibor> edbian: and how the hell do you know the fact about simpsons
[15:13] <phong_> i love it
[15:13] <edbian> never heard of that feaure
[15:13] <puff> Hm, what about gnome office?'
[15:14] <spow> Hi. I've been having troubles with the default X manager, so I've installed gnome. I tried using it in classic but there was no desktop, so now I tried gnome without options and i'm stuck in the 'activities' tab, I can't get out of it ! what should I use ?
[15:14] <speckmade> (I'm trying to install into encrypted LVM, resulting in a series of failures so far.)
[15:14] <edbian> phong_: because it has less software running at any given time and an army of people spend their time maintaining it and making it as fast as possible instead of as profitable as possible
[15:14] <speckmade> Can I install into encrypted LVM using the live CD installation method?
[15:14] <edbian> tibor: haha, I like the simpsons and I just saw that episode the other day
[15:14] <puff> edbian: I can actually see why people like it, it basically lets you rewind/replay changes to the document, all the change data is stored *in* the document (which is one of the reasons word files can get so bloated...)
[15:14] <edbian> phong_: the software thing obviously is variable
[15:14] <edbian> puff: I would just use regular files and git
[15:15] <edbian> puff: Never used that feature but I'm willing to bet git is better
[15:15] <puff> edbian: Me too :-).
[15:15] <phong_> edbian, you type freaking fast man, u scared the heck of me
[15:15] <phong_> very rapid respond
[15:15] <edbian> phong_: ha, I am good at typing
[15:15] <edbian> phong_: :)
[15:15] <phong_> edbian, tell me if u're having extra fingures
[15:15] <phong_> fingers*
[15:16] <phong_> lol
[15:16] <edbian> phong_: I am not having extra fingers.
[15:16] <phong_> edbian, which linux has best GUI?
[15:16] <phong_> i want to download it and install on my laptop
[15:17] <edbian> phong_: all of them can use any GUI that you install (except unity on everything but Ubuntu).  Although you could probably compile the source and run it on any distro.
[15:17] <edbian> phong_: best is a matter of opinion
[15:17] <phong_> ok
[15:17] <edbian> unity that is, you could probably download the source and compile unity to run on anything you wanted.  After all, we're talking about open source software here
[15:18] <Exxon> phong_, gui is only for the new users entirely the basic is only the cli may be you will understand ..later
[15:18] <edbian> I use the cli  _way_ more
[15:18] <edbian> Exxon: I agre
[15:18] <edbian> e
[15:19] <behelit> hi! is it possible to, somehow, redirect stderr to a file when starting a program with start-stop-daemon? (2>> /file.. does not seem to work)
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> behelit  try 2>/dev/null
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> behelit  or 2> /some/file
[15:20] <phong_> ls
[15:20] <phong_> oops
[15:20] <behelit> MonkeyDust: i need to append the errors :/
[15:20] <spow_> Please, how the f*** do I get out of the activities tab on gnome ?
[15:20] <nightcrow> im trying to join a multicast group with iperf - but when i sniff with tcpdump, i see its using IGMP V3 - cisco doesnt support this - how can I join the groups with V2?
[15:20] <genewitch> spow_: the tab that opens when you press the meta key?
[15:21] <nrdb> behelit, I think you would need to start and stop the daemon manually... and hope it does print things to stderr.
[15:21] <geirha> behelit: start-stop-daemon does not appear to have this feature, though the output should end up in /var/log/daemon.log
[15:22] <orestis_g> Hello, everybody,  could I ask about a bit of a problem I'm having with gnome 3 ?
[15:22] <orestis_g> I installed it using apt-get gnome-shell
[15:23] <conntrack> Will ubuntu pppoe work with a 2wire router?
[15:23] <spow__> genewitch: well, I logged out and noz it seems to be fixed
[15:23] <behelit> geirha: hmm, interesting. i see some entries there, but not from my program.
[15:23] <DatSamuel> is there an easier way to compile c++ in ubuntu? preferably something with a GUI?
[15:23] <spow__> what X manager are you using ? the default one ?
[15:24] <rcmaehl> I need help with a bash problem
[15:24] <M4d3L> hi. how I do a search into all file?
[15:24] <spow__> because it's really buggy here
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> M4d3L  using grep
[15:24] <M4d3L> I need to find a string in all file in the dir and subdir
[15:24] <rcmaehl> pastebin.com/91W89JBW why is it that even if the number is less than 59 it changes the hour ahead
[15:24] <Exxon> spow_,  http://ubuntuguide.net/view-and-kill-current-processes-on-ubuntu
[15:24] <geirha> behelit: Hm. Looking close though, the start-stop-daemon manual does not mention anything about output, so possibly it just redirects all output to /dev/null and expects the daemon to do the logging.
[15:24] <nightcrow> any ideas guys? btw, im using ubuntu
[15:24] <Pici> M4d3L: grep -r string *
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> M4d3L  combine find with grep
[15:24] <spow__> Exxon: I couldn't open a terminal
[15:25] <puff> DatSamuel: eclipse?  IDEA intellij?  Netbeans?
[15:25] <Pici> nightcrow: ##networking might be a better place to ask, as your question is rather in-depth :)
[15:25] <geirha> behelit: Anyway, you can create a wrapper script that runs your program with the redirection you want, and run that wrapper script with start-stop-daemon instead.
[15:25] <behelit> geirha: maybe i can wrap the program in a shell-script or run it through nohup
[15:25] <nightcrow> thank you Pici
[15:25] <Exxon> spow__,  atl + f2 terminal
[15:25] <puff> DatSamuel: Might be better to ask in ##c++
[15:25] <spow__> I've always had problems with dual screens, but I can usually fix it
[15:26] <behelit> geirha: will try, thanks for the help
[15:26] <dr_willis> spow__:  unity is known to have some issues with multi-display setups.. gnome-shell may also hae some issues.
[15:26] <spow__> now compiz seems to mess everything
[15:27] <orestis_g> I installed gnome3 (have been running gnome classic), however once I log in to gnome3 I can open the menu by going to the top left corner, however mouse clicks either to the Applications menu or to the application bar on the left side of the screen does nothing (as if I didn;t click)
[15:27] <Exxon> Pici, come in later with the java ; assume that
[15:27] <psyxxxx> hi guys. i would like to install a rootkit on my own machine, to learn and play a little bit with chkrootkit and rkhunter. does anyone know a good one?
[15:27] <orestis_g> Using 2 monitors for the time being, haven't tried one
[15:27] <dr_willis> orestis_g:  what release of ubuntu are you using?
[15:27] <orestis_g> 11.10
[15:27] <DatSamuel> puff: im try that
[15:27] <dr_willis> orestis_g:  you mean you installed 'gnome-shell' ? since gnome3 was allready installed...
[15:28] <orestis_g> Oh, that's right
[15:28] <orestis_g> I meant the shell
[15:28] <spow__> dr_willis: tried gnome-shell classic but there was no desktop, now i'm using plain gnome and I've had this strange freezes
[15:28] <dr_willis> orestis_g:  :) it gets confuseing.. heh.
[15:28] <conntrack> Anyone?
[15:28] <spow__> should I use a more supported version ? like back to 10.xx
[15:28] <dr_willis> spow__:  i never use the classic/failsafe stuff. so no idea. you could always try resetting stuff back to defaults
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> conntrack  anyone what?
[15:28] <dr_willis> unity and gnome-shell both work fine here for me in 11.10
[15:29] <spow__> unity didn't allow me a 2nd screen and gnome classic has no desktop :S
[15:29] <conntrack> Will ubuntu pppoe work with a 2wire router? Or is it huawei?
[15:29] <orestis_g> I used unity for only a while, I don't think it had any problems. The thing is that the specific problem I'm having with gnome-shell is a bit confusing...I have no idea where to begin troubleshooting
[15:29] <dr_willis> spow__:  by 'plain gnome' you mean gnome-shell?
[15:30] <conntrack> I guess I'm confused
[15:30] <dr_willis> spow__:  this is a upgraded system? or a clean install?
[15:30] <nightcrow> Pici: they couldnt help me
[15:30] <spow__> dr_willis: when I logged I used 'gnome', and its a fresh install, though wubi'd
[15:30] <psyxxxx> hi guys. i would like to install a rootkit on my own machine, to learn and play a little bit with chkrootkit and rkhunter. does anyone know a good one?
[15:31] <Pici> psyxxxx: Such things are not on-topic for this channel.
[15:31] <Pici> nightcrow: Sorry to hear that,  try asking again here and maybe you'll get a response.
[15:31] <diverdude> i need to install: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin but those are no longer in the repo. what are they called now?
[15:31] <dr_willis> !java
[15:32] <psyxxxx> Pici: Do you know a good channel?
[15:32] <shaullx> i can't enable file sharing on my VNC, can someone help me set it up?
[15:33] <Pici> psyxxxx: ##security perhaps
[15:33] <diverdude> dr_willis, i need it to install netbeans: this: http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html
[15:33] <shaullx> samba is installed
[15:33] <compdoc> shaullx, your vnc?
[15:33] <shaullx> yeah, well on my vps
[15:33] <nokia> !list
[15:33] <Exxon> giving out candy instead for joining
[15:34] <shaullx> running fluxbox as gui if it helps
[15:34] <HQRaja> I need a program pinned in my unity dock/launcher (the bar on the left) to execute with a commandline switch each time I click on its launcher icon. Is there a way to do this? Are the pinned shortcuts actually kept in some folder?
[15:35] <whitekidney> My laptops monitor won't turn on after sleep.. any log files I can check for this ?
[15:35] <nightcrow> also, thank Pici
[15:35] <compdoc> just need to adjust smb.conf and set permissions
[15:35] <dr_willis> diverdude:  pick the java it needs I guess.. I dont use netbeans.  you got 3 choices.
[15:36] <nightcrow> im trying to join a multicast group with iperf - but when i sniff with tcpdump, i see its using IGMP V3 - cisco doesnt support this - how can I join the groups with V2?
[15:36] <HQRaja> Anyone? I really need help with this
[15:36] <nightcrow> OS=Ubuntu
[15:36] <dr_willis> shaullx:  it might be easier to setup ssh/sftp/
[15:36] <webnet> diverdude, are you experienced in java or starting off?
[15:36] <diverdude> web1109, i did java before
[15:37] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  you could make a custome  .desktop file for your variant.
[15:37] <webnet> diverdude, ok have you ever heard of bluej
[15:37] <webnet> ??
[15:37] <diverdude> webnet, ill be using netbeans for php :)
[15:37] <webnet> oh ok. i didnt realize you could code php in netbeans.
[15:38] <webnet> i just use a standard text editor for my php coding
[15:38] <diverdude> webnet, oh sure you can. they have a good ide for that
[15:38] <webnet> interesting. i will be checking that out
[15:38] <webnet> thanks diverdude
[15:38] <diverdude> webnet, no worries...netbeans is way better. integrate it with xdebug
[15:40] <_calum> Would Blender allow me to convert a .3dsmax file to an md3 file? I want to import a model to a game but its in the wrong format :(
[15:40] <HQRaja> dr_willis: How do I do that? And can't I simply somehow edit the current entry for the same app, and add the additional command line argument to it?
[15:40] <jclbrt> _Calum i believe so actually
[15:40] <htmlinprogress> netbeans? u got to be joking ? what is that something the compter eats?
[15:41] <_calum> ahh thats good to know
[15:41] <_calum> thanks jclbrt
[15:41] <webnet> wow diverdude that is way nicer than the text editor i use. wow. thanks for the tip :)
[15:41] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  never tried. would be rather trivial to make a new .desktop file with a custome icon entry
[15:41] <shaullx> no one knows how to enable file sharing on a vnc? =/
[15:41] <shaullx> it's driving me mad, been trying all day
[15:41] <dr_willis> shaullx:  you are refering to a feature OF vnc? or installing shareing on a machine you are accessing via vnc?
[15:41] <HQRaja> dr_willis: I see...and would it work with the Unity dock in 11.10?
[15:41] <jclbrt> file sharing on a VNC??
[15:42] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  making a .desktop file should work for most any of the common desktops
[15:42] <shaullx> i'm connecting to my vps using vnc, but the file sharing is not enabled for some reason, i can't transfer any files.
[15:42] <htmlinprogress> shaullx,  if you wait a few hours when other wake up,, then might know,,, i think i heard of it
[15:42] <HQRaja> dr_willis: I see. Where should I create the .desktop file, and what is its syntax? And once created, how do I get it on the launcher?
[15:42] <dr_willis> i never noticed vnc itself having a file shareing feature.
[15:42] <compdoc> shaullx, someone is hosting the vps for you? in the could?
[15:43] <compdoc> cloud
[15:43] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  whever you want.. find the one for the app you are wanting to tweak and copy it and edit its contents
[15:43] <shaullx> what do you mean? it's my vps i'm renting it.
[15:43] <compdoc> so yes
[15:43] <shaullx> and i know vnc doesn't allow it itself, that's why i installed samba
[15:43] <htmlinprogress> cloud ? what about it?  compdoc
[15:43] <shaullx> do i need to start samba somehow?
[15:44] <compdoc> you do need to set it to run at boot, if it didnt do that for you
[15:44] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Any idea where can I find the one for the currently pinned entry that I have in the dock? The app is called Quassel
[15:44] <shaullx> how do i do that?
[15:44] <htmlinprogress> compdoc,  if you know how to build one i would
[15:44] <jclbrt> shaullx it should start right after u install it
[15:44] <jclbrt> but u need to set up your shares
[15:44] <htmlinprogress> compdoc,  if you know how to build one i would so like to learn,,
[15:45] <shaullx> i'd like the vnc to act as my own desktop, if i ctrl+c something on my local, that it would past to the VNC as well
[15:45] <compdoc> htmlinprogress, I was asking shaullx about his rented server. Ive never used the cloud
[15:45] <shaullx> it worked before, i reinstalled ubuntu and now i'm lost
[15:45] <jclbrt> shaullx i dont think that'll work with vnc
[15:45] <shaullx> it did work
[15:45] <jclbrt> :-\
[15:45] <jclbrt> u mean copying and pasting?
[15:45] <shaullx> copying test from the local desktop, crl+v to the vnc would copy
[15:45] <shaullx> yeah
[15:45] <jclbrt> oh yea ok
[15:45] <jclbrt> sorry
[15:46] <shaullx> now it doesn't
[15:46] <jclbrt> i thought u meant like to pass commands from the host to the remote machine (like control +alt +delete
[15:46] <compdoc> shaullx, samba, and windows file sharing needs several ports open, and not really something thats useful over the internet
[15:46] <shaullx> i just need to enable basic copy past
[15:46] <jclbrt> VPN tunnel :-P
[15:46] <shaullx> it worked before
[15:46] <Pici> shaullx: copying and pasting text does not require samba or any other file hosting service.
[15:47] <shaullx> so why wouldn't it copy
[15:47] <jclbrt> shaullx, is the remote machine Windows?
[15:47] <shaullx> the local is
[15:47] <shaullx> the remote is ubuntu
[15:47] <jclbrt> ah
[15:47] <compdoc> shaullx, oh, you need to enable the clipboard?
[15:47] <jclbrt> ok... check to make sure the clipboard is running
[15:47] <shaullx> clipboard works for stuff i copy past in the VPS
[15:47] <jclbrt> yea what compdoc said
[15:47] <compdoc> which vnc server did you install?
[15:47] <shaullx> but not outside of it
[15:47] <shaullx> i got 2, tightvnc and x11vnc
[15:48] <shaullx> neither has copy past
[15:48] <htmlinprogress> compdoc,  ohhh.... well i heard you one can do this ,,, i ve asked for months  to no success , not one  even can tell me where to start ,,, so sorry if i budded in
[15:48] <Frantic> I have a friend running 11.10, she installed gnome from ubuntu software center and is using the "gnome classic" session. Pidgin doesn't produce any IM notifications, not even flashing in the task bar, is this a known issue?
[15:48] <compdoc> shaullx, well, with vnc4server, it comes with a program you run named vncconfig. this enables the keyboard. Not sure how tightvnc and x11vnc do it
[15:49] <compdoc> *this enables the clipboard
[15:49] <Exxon> Frantic, run pidgin from the terminal error you will know if there is
[15:50] <shaullx> my VNC Viewer app has 'send clipboard' option enabled
[15:50] <shaullx> i'll try installing vnc4server
[15:50] <shaullx> see how it goes, thanks
[15:50] <compdoc> htmlinprogress, there used to be a free cloud server from amazon or google (forget which) that let you run a server for free
[15:50] <Frantic> Exxon: I don't have access to the computer unfortunately :(
[15:51] <compdoc> shaullx, I could never find it, but you would think that tightvnc and x11vnc have that function. maybe someone here knows
[15:53] <blizzow> For the love of Tebow and all that is holy.  Will the new updated kernel in ubuntu boot a Lenovo T420S yet?
[15:53] <lartza> I can't seem to share a folder to ubuntu guest in VIrtualbox :/
[15:54] <htmlinprogress> compdoc,  well thats nice and thanks , but googlee...   mmm they know more of me then i like to share...  i would really want to bouldd my own
[15:54] <jutnux> lartza: Have you enabled PCE?
[15:54] <lartza> it isnt automounted by virtualbox and mount shows Protocol error
[15:54] <lartza> jutnux: What?
[15:54] <compdoc> htmlinprogress, its nothing more than a server you can access from anywhere - build one
[15:55] <jutnux> lartza: Have you installed guest additions?
[15:55] <lartza> jutnux: I think... it was a little weird, shouldn't tehy be on repos? :/
[15:55] <lartza> *they
[15:55] <jutnux> Not that I know of
[15:55] <lartza> Well I installed them from Virtualbox, but dont now if it succeeded then..
[15:56] <jclbrt> vmware kicks vbox's butt anyday
[15:56] <jclbrt> :-P
[15:56] <jclbrt> jk
[15:56] <jutnux> No way.
[15:57] <lartza> Actually I do have a folder in /media...
[15:57] <lartza> but it is restricted from my user
[15:57] <HQRaja> OK I found the .desktop file for the app, made a copy and am editing it. I am confused where to add the commandline argument there that I want to pass while executing the program
[15:57] <jutnux> sudo chown
[15:58] <Exxon> jclbrt, you simply should know vmware slow the system ..but v-b don't find out why..
[15:58] <HQRaja> should I add it to the program's name in the Exec= entry?
[15:58] <lartza> jutnux: Yea just...
[15:58] <lartza> jutnux: Trying to find where it mounts it
[15:58] <htmlinprogress> compdoc,  but how?
[15:58] <lartza> jutnux: not fstab or rc.local
[15:58] <HQRaja> dr_willis: There?
[15:59] <compdoc> htmlinprogress, cloud can be many things - shared docs, filesharing, or even a desktop. Depends on what you want to use ti for
[15:59] <HQRaja> Can anyone please help me with .desktop files?
[16:00] <lartza> jutnux: chown and chmod 777 but I can't access the fodler with nautilus
[16:00] <dr_willis> im in and out all day HQRaja
[16:00] <HQRaja> dr_willis:  OK I am editing the .desktop file...what part do I add the arguments to, that I want to pass to the program? To the 'Exec=program' entry, or to the 'TryExec=program' entry?
[16:00] <dr_willis> Exec is ran first i belive.
[16:01] <dr_willis> Exec=foo arguments
[16:01] <jutnux> Does the folder exist?
[16:01] <dr_willis> perhaps.. try it and see..
[16:01] <HQRaja> dr_willis: And do I need to put the entry in quotes, now that it has spaces in between?
[16:01] <htmlinprogress> compdoc,  the first 2 options is nice, like dropbox, but i will be using it for mu own network
[16:01] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  the other desktop files i see dont use quotes
[16:01] <dyd> i have gnome and i want to install an utility like klipper, without the need to install 189 mb, is there anything similar for gnome?
[16:01] <|Anthony|> gd... doing dd if=/dev/urandom of=dev/sda on a 1TB drive is estimated to take ~ 50 hours
[16:01] <jclbrt> Exxon---- huh?
[16:02] <|Anthony|> anyone else think that is slow?
[16:02] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Oh OK...thanks. Lemme try that then. Also, do you know what 'TryExec=foo' is for?
[16:02] <jclbrt> i use vmware server with no problems
[16:02] <dr_willis> dyn check the askubuntu.com site for indicator applets. I belive theres a few clipbord manager ones
[16:02] <jclbrt> i am currently running 15 servers off of it
[16:02] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, maybe try bs=5M
[16:02] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  no idea. not every .desktop file has that entry
[16:03] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Alright, thanks again =)
[16:03] <wangzhou> mjkj
[16:03] <|Anthony|> rumpe1, how would changing the block size effect speed
[16:03] <wangzhou> 扫描
[16:03] <wangzhou> 扫描呢
[16:03] <dr_willis> HQRaja:  http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-1.0.html
[16:04] <dr_willis> block size for dd can have a big boost in speed.. up to a point.
[16:04] <HQRaja> dr_willis: Excellent! =)
[16:04] <dr_willis> I alwyas use bs=2048 out of habbit.
[16:04] <HQRaja> Thanks
[16:04] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, don't know exactly, but it usually works. Even gparted performs testruns with different blocksizes to estimate the best blocksize.
[16:04] <|Anthony|> sudo kill USR1 pid is showing 5.5MB/s
[16:04] <compdoc> I like Qemu-KVM
[16:05] <dr_willis> ive herad that some of the newer versons of dd have a larger bs default then the old versions.
[16:05] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, and the default one (512b?) is usually very slow
[16:05] <|Anthony|> it's already been running for ~11 hours and 215GB done
[16:06] <|Anthony|> kinda don't want to restart it :/ idk
[16:06] <rainbowwarrior> hi, how do i install Opera for Ubuntu 11.10 as it does not show in the software center please ?
[16:06] <DarkStar1> how can I verify what tables are installed on iptables
[16:06] <dr_willis> let it run then. :)
[16:06] <lartza> Now I can access the sared folder but not modify files and copying gives me protocol error...
[16:06] <lartza> *shared
[16:06] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, i would restart it :) ... 11h for 215GB is /really/ slow
[16:06] <dr_willis> rainbowwarrior:  tried logging out/back in after you  installed it? someone in here the other day had a similer issue.
[16:06] <|Anthony|> is there a way to test different bs's before i start a full wipe?
[16:07] <dr_willis> rainbowwarrior:  or make a launcher for it via alacarte in the menus.    one may be there allready.
[16:07] <|Anthony|> or just do a small section and see
[16:07] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, i would bet there are scripts somewhere on the net
[16:07] <|Anthony|> probably true
[16:07] <SilverFox> I've managed to set something in nvidia-settings that causes just a black screen w/mouse cursor.  How do I reset/revert settings?
[16:07] <dr_willis> SilverFox:  you saved it to your xorg.conf ? or just as a user?
[16:08] <|Anthony|> rumpe1, thought about using darak's boot-n-nuke
[16:08] <SilverFox> dr_willis: saved it to xorg.conf
[16:08] <|Anthony|> but i know that is slow too
[16:08] <dr_willis> SilverFox:  rename/move xorg.conf and it should use the defaults.
[16:08] <dr_willis> SilverFox:  or if you knew what you changed. edit the xorg.conf
[16:08] <rumpe1> |Anthony|, there is one: http://serverfault.com/questions/147935/how-to-determine-the-best-byte-size-for-the-dd-command
[16:08] <dr_willis> SilverFox:  or look in /etc/X11/ and see if theres a backup xorg.conf from an earlier date
[16:09] <|Anthony|> oh thanks rumpe1
[16:09] <lartza> but why the hell??
[16:10] <lartza> Now I can't unmount it anymore and....
[16:10] <Exxon> rainbowwarrior, http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3382
[16:11] <j3d3> Since upgrading to 11.10 I now have a launcher/icon on the taskbar with serves only to open a web browser to google. I can not figure out how to remove this. There is no option i can see in any normal place. any suggestions?
[16:11] <travisHAZE> I am mounted partition, hear me spin! bzzzzzzzztt bzzt bzzzzt
[16:11] <SilverFox> dr_willis: then just restart lightdm?
[16:11] <pteague_work> any idea what would cause mysql to take a long time to start up?
[16:11] <travisHAZE> It being bloated
[16:12] <lartza> It's not working at all...
[16:12] <travisHAZE> When I ran a webserver, if my MySQL database had more than a thousand entries, it would start malfunctioning
[16:12] <lartza> mount -t vboxsf -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
[16:12] <lartza> And I get protocol error on copying and don't have write permissions!
[16:13] <dano> j3d3: have you tried right clicking on the icon and unchecking "Keep In Launcher" ?
[16:13] <j3d3> it is not an option
[16:13] <dano> You see that option elsewhere, right?
[16:14] <|Anthony|> ok, can i send a signal to a running dd to "pause" it?
[16:15] <|Anthony|> silly question i know
[16:15] <j3d3> dano:  yes i have access to the panel properties to add and remove things, it is not listed in this.
[16:15] <dr_willis> SilverFox:  yes should do it.. odd that lightdm/login screen works.. could be some specific compiz issue
[16:16] <xmad> |Anthony|: kill -STOP <process id>
[16:16] <xmad> kill -CONT <process id>
[16:16] <|Anthony|> that was the one i was looking for ty xmad
[16:16] <|Anthony|> :)
[16:16] <DrShoggoth> I'm running an encrypted home.  If I use "screen" and leave something running but I detach and log out the home dir becomes unavailable to my screen session causing issues.   Is there a workaround to this?
[16:17] <diatomaceous> does anyone know which setting in gtk2.0/gtkrc or gtk3.0/gtk.css controls the background color of a nautilus window?
[16:17] <DrShoggoth> Is there maybe a config file that lets me configure when my home gets unmounted?
[16:17] <ntt> hej
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> DrShoggoth  byobu is a workaround, it's an extension for screen, if you close and reopen it, nothing has changed
[16:18] <ntt> hey evryone
[16:18] <travisHAZE> BYOBU, bring your own black unicorns?
[16:18] <travisHAZE> You racist
[16:18] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:   i would think  it would have the same issue.. i dont use encrypted homes.. :)
[16:18] <dr_willis> !byobu
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> travisHAZE  ?
[16:19] <dr_willis> !info byobu
[16:19] <dr_willis> using byobu right now.
[16:19] <travisHAZE> MonkeyDust, I was having fun with it
[16:19] <dano> j3d3: I'm sorry I can't be of more help.  I've never run into this before and am out of my depth.
[16:19] <whitekidney> Why do I have to input a domain when connecting to a windows share? I'm not running a domain on my local network...
[16:19] <j3d3> Dano: the properties/help option of the launcher gives a "document not found" error as well
[16:19] <j3d3> Dano o ty anywat
[16:19] <makara> hi. Why isn't /etc/init.d/ added to $PATH by default?
[16:20] <Sharpshooter> is it possible to install the ubuntu 8.x apps in 11.10 ?
[16:20] <sipior> makara: because the contents are not intended to be run directly.
[16:20] <makara> sipior: by directly you mean without sudo?
[16:20] <warfaren> why would you want that in path?
[16:21] <makara> because I always running services in this directory. Like Apache2
[16:21] <warfaren> no it means that you write the name of the binary without the full path. so for example if you want to run a shell you only need to type bash instead of /bin/bash
[16:21] <Exxon> Sharpshooter, what app are you really trying to migrate in 11.10
[16:21] <sipior> makara: no, i mean directly by anyone. try the "service" command.
[16:21] <warfaren> well you can start them with service apache2 start
[16:21] <makara> excellent
[16:21] <rainbowwarrior> hi, anyone here know how to stop java chat applets crashing when loading on Ubuntu 11.10 please ?
[16:21] <Sharpshooter> Exxon, Smartcam
[16:22] <warfaren> if you have to launch apache2 directly with only "apache2" i guess you could put a link or a shellscript in /usr/bin or something though
[16:22] <sokak> hi everyone
[16:22] <warfaren> that's in your path
[16:22] <whitekidney> Why do I have to input a domain when connecting to a windows share? I'm not running a domain on my local network...
[16:23] <Sharpshooter> Exxon, smartcam an app to use mobile phone as webcam ..
[16:23] <whitekidney> And why doesn't samba spesifiy any spesific error instead of saying "Failed to mount windows share" god its so stupid..
[16:23] <Exxon> Sharpshooter, question can you compile ..
[16:24] <trav|exam> oh Lord Samba troubles again?
[16:24] <trav|exam> Ill save ya some time: If your trying to transfer from NTFS, your going to be beating your head against the wall all day
[16:24] <Sharpshooter> Exxon, no
[16:25] <Exxon> Sharpshooter, as you don't have other alternative give it a try..      http://www.itech-planet.net/content/smart-cam-installation-guide-4-ubuntu-1004-lts-nokia-96
[16:25] <dano> j3d3: I'm curious, when you search for *.desktop files in your home directory, do you come up with a file corresponding to the launcher?  I'm also under the assumption that this launcher still works, right?
[16:26] <sokak> i have a bizarre question about hdds. I noticed that i can "fix" disks with few bad sectors just using shred or badblocks, and after years of use, is all still fine. As they like to make "jogging". Since i have a 2 months old hdd and i noticed one bad sector... Can be good to shred or badblock any new hdd to make the potentially defective bad sectors show up and be relocated immediately?
[16:26] <Pici> trav|exam, whitekidney: I'me mounting multuple shares across multiple servers here using samba/cifs and things work just fine.
[16:26] <whitekidney> Pici: I'm trying to access a Windows share.
[16:27] <Pici> whitekidney: If its asking you for a domain you can either enter nothing or the name of the computer you're trying to access.
[16:27] <whitekidney> Yeah, I tried doing that, no luck.
[16:27] <whitekidney> And you don't need a password to access my windows share. I have disabled that.
[16:27] <Sharpshooter> Exxon,  so to compile my self from source  what things I want to do/learn ?
[16:27] <trav|exam> whitekidney, is it an NTFS partition?
[16:27] <whitekidney> Yes
[16:27] <trav|exam> Good luck, I tried this all day yesterday
[16:28] <whitekidney> That's not the problem, I have done this before.
[16:28] <trav|exam> Ended up just taking the harddrive out and just forcing it that way
[16:28] <Pici> trav|exam: the filesystem doesn't have any bearing on whether samba will work.
[16:28] <Exxon> Sharpshooter, there is nothing to learn simply follow the instruction in the REAME file..after un-tar
[16:28] <Lamb> Hello?
[16:28] <whitekidney> The problem is I can't connect to my windows share with my ubuntu laptop. All other computers in this house can connect without a password just fine.
[16:28] <trav|exam> That's funny, cause Samba was working fine with Fat32 and EXT4, but when I tried to touch the NTFS partition it was like "NO."
[16:28] <whitekidney> When I spesify a user and enter the correct password it still fails.
[16:29] <sokak> nas, ftw
[16:29] <Skt_Thomas> Hey. I was wondering if someone could help me with a little problem. It seems that on Ubuntu 11.10(Oneiric Ocelot with GNOME desktop) I can't set my laptop to hibernate. There simply is no button anywhere that lets me do it. I know how to shut down/restart with holding the ALT key and all that jazz but I can't get it to hibernate
[16:29] <warfaren> Skt_Thomas: do you have swap?
[16:29] <SilverFox> dr_willis: lightdm wasn't working...  I just wanted to avoid a reboot.  Got that working, thanks.
[16:29] <warfaren> cuz without swap it probably wont work
[16:30] <Skt_Thomas> I think I do because it hibernates just fine on Unity
[16:30] <SilverFox> when one 'applies' in nvidia-settings, does that just write out user level settings?  One of the options says "requires restart", but I'm confused about whether an 'apply' will stick after restart, or not.
[16:30] <Lamb> Hello, I need help with installing ubuntu on my eeepc sheshell series, it came with an Express Gate Cloud, put unbuntu on the flash drive as instructed it, but it wont appear in the boot menu
[16:30] <warfaren> Skt_Thomas: try the command: free
[16:31] <warfaren> you'll see if you have swap
[16:31] <Skt_Thomas> @warfaren: Swap:      2027516          0    2027516
[16:31] <dano> j3d3: check out the launcher api too.  You might be able to determine whether there's an incorrect entry in your config.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Static%20Quicklist%20entries
[16:31] <Pici> whitekidney: Have you tried with username of Guest and no password?
[16:31] <whitekidney> Pici: I don't have any guest user on my windows desktop.
[16:31] <Exxon> warfaren, i too have swap is use                 free - m
[16:32] <warfaren> oki
[16:32] <Pici> whitekidney: Then how is this share setup?
[16:32] <whitekidney> Pici: You can setup password-free sharing in Windows.
[16:32] <whitekidney> In windows 7 you have an option to let 'everyone' read your shared folder without logging in.
[16:32] <Pici> whitekidney: I'm pretty sure that uses the guest account behind the scenes.
[16:33] <teutrux> ?
[16:33] <trav|exam> Not ubuntu related: TV shows are quoted (ie "Cheers") and episodes are italicized right?
[16:33] <Lamb> Could anyone please help me, Im having trouble installing Ubuntu on a computer that has an Express Gate Cloud as a default OS
[16:34] <rainbowwarrior> Hello, how do i fix java that it does not crash when loading java chat applets please on Ubuntu 11.10 ? (im using java version "1.6.0_26" )
[16:35] <Pici> trav|exam: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <aikInsaan> how do I get tightvncserver on my ubuntu?
[16:36] <aikInsaan> apt-get install tightvncserver says package not found
[16:37] <sinosoidal> hi. I want to make a simple debian package for a small utility. in control file I have defined as depending on qt, however when I test the package it fails to install because it doesnt met the dependencies
[16:37] <wk> Pici: Uh oh.
[16:37] <wk> Pici: I found out how this works now.. uh.. If you're trying to access a windows share with no password you still need a user.
[16:38] <wk> Pici: Accessing the share with a user/pw won't work. User/no pw works.
[16:38] <aikInsaan> apt-get install tightvncserver says package not found
[16:38] <aikInsaan> how do I get tightvncserver on my ubuntu?
[16:38] <Pici> wk: Thats a bit silly. But glad you got it to work.
[16:38] <wk> aikInsaan: what version?
[16:38] <aikInsaan> must mention I have only got bash shell access
[16:38] <aikInsaan> any version would do
[16:38] <wk> aikInsaan: I mean what version are you on?
[16:38] <aikInsaan> oh...10.04
[16:39] <wk> aikInsaan: Did you do apt-get update first?
[16:39] <aikInsaan> yeah
[16:39] <Amon-Ra> hi guys, i am trying to install XAMPP gui , but the tutorials i find on web doesn't work for me, any help ?
[16:39] <Amon-Ra> i follow this tutorial http://freshtutorial.com/add-gui-xampp-control-panel-ubuntu/
[16:39] <Amon-Ra> but it doesn't work for me..any idea ?
[16:40] <webnet> aikInsaan,  ok are you sure you have its source in  sources.list?
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> aikInsaan  it's in the universe repo, is that repo active?
[16:40] <mneptok> aikInsaan: please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a"
[16:40] <webnet> Amon-Ra, Hi again. what is going wrong?
[16:40] <Amon-Ra> webnet: hi mate, i installed Xampp , and i am trying to enable the GUI
[16:40] <aikInsaan> mneptok: here:
[16:40] <aikInsaan> No LSB modules are available.
[16:40] <aikInsaan> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:40] <aikInsaan> Description:    Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[16:40] <aikInsaan> Release:        10.04
[16:40] <aikInsaan> Codename:       lucid
[16:40] <FloodBot1> aikInsaan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <Amon-Ra> webnet: like the link above..but it doesn't work for me
[16:41] <aikInsaan> apologies, didn't mean to flood on that
[16:41] <webnet> MonkeyDust, duh repo was the word i was looking for. haha. brain fart moment :P
[16:41] <mneptok> aikInsaan: please *pastebin* output like that
[16:41] <|Anthony|> any way to get dd to be multithreaded?
[16:41] <almoxarife> !info tightvncserver
[16:41] <mneptok> aikInsaan: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[16:41] <Exxon> !vnc
[16:41] <HQRaja> I created a custom .desktop file for an app, with a commandline argument provided in the 'Exec=' entry. Now the shortcut is working fine but when I dragged it to the Unity launcher bar to pin it there, it doesn't show the app's icon there (although the shortcut works, just as an empty space in the launcher/dock)
[16:41] <HQRaja> Any clue on how can I fix this behavior?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> webnet  be sure to not forget your GF's birthday :p
[16:42] <sokak> |Anthony|, why that?
[16:42] <webnet> MonkeyDust, haha Nov. 27th :D i got that one :P
[16:42] <aikInsaan> mneptok:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main     deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid-security main are the two on there
[16:42] <aikInsaan> its the universe one isn't it?
[16:43] <mneptok> aikInsaan: also, you are running 10.04.1, which has long been deprecated. 10.04 users should be on 10.04.3 by now
[16:43] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[16:43] <|Anthony|> sokak, would run faster for a urandom if it were multi-threaded
[16:43] <webnet> Amon-Ra, ok so where is it going wrong? the giu wont start or what. not finding a shortcut for the gui?
[16:43] <Skydev> hi
[16:43] <webnet> Skydev, hi
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> luis_  it's a known bug, developpers are working on it
[16:43] <mneptok> aikInsaan: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <--- do that before installing new stuff
[16:44] <Amon-Ra> webnet: i don't find the shortcut or the  GUI..shouldn't it be now at the installed programs?
[16:44] <sokak> |Anthony|, tried to increase blocksize?
[16:44] <Skydev> any talk in spanish
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> es| Skydev
[16:44] <mneptok> !es | Skydev
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !es| Skydev
[16:44] <Skydev> si
[16:44] <luis_> MonkeyDust, how do I know if they are working on it, since I don't see any comments?
[16:44] <mneptok> Skydev: Ingles solamente aqui, pf
[16:44] <webnet> Amon-Ra, not necessilary, you may need to add a launcher.
[16:44] <|Anthony|> sokak, yes, just ran a test script someone led me to
[16:45] <Skydev> mmm
[16:45] <|Anthony|> thanks again xmad
[16:45] <Skydev> ok
[16:45] <Skydev> see us later
[16:45] <sokak> |Anthony|, nothing can go faster than dd in a low level copy :3
[16:45] <Amon-Ra> webnet: how do i add a launcher? and actually how should i know if it needs a launcher ? :)
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> luis_  it says 'confirmed'
[16:45] <|Anthony|> sokak, i'm wiping a 1TB drive with /dev/urandom
[16:46] <luis_> MonkeyDust, any ideas on how to help? like some troubleshooting methods?
[16:46] <xmad> sure
[16:46] <luis_> i really need this functionality back!
[16:46] <sokak> |Anthony|, i just finished to shred,badblock and full smart test a 4 tb unit ;) took 18 hours
[16:46] <luis_> imagine a notebook without suspension or hibernating!
[16:46] <|Anthony|> damn sokak
[16:46] <bluegoon> My netbook melted
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> luis_  i'm not better than developpers, i guess you have to be patient, i think hibernation has a low priority
[16:46] <sipior> luis_: it's interesting that it worked with one of the rc kernels. does it now fail with that kernel in place?
[16:47] <sokak> |Anthony|, hurry is a bad counselor when dealing serious checks
[16:47] <bluegoon> After 5 years of use, XChat still does not remember any settings on Ubuntu.
[16:47] <luis_> yes sipior, the first time I tried it worked, but at the second attempt faiiled
[16:47] <OerHeks> luis_, best thing to do now, is to confirm the bug.
[16:47] <sipior> luis_: what changed between those two things?
[16:47] <HQRaja> I am going insane :( I learned how to make a .desktop file, created one, added the arguments and it's working fine by itself...shows the right icon, launches the app with the right arguments, BUT when I drag it to the Unity launcher to pin it there, it does get pinned but WITHOUT the icon. Clicking on it works, but it looks awful as just an empty space in the launcher :(
[16:47] <|Anthony|> sokak, best throughput i'm getting with dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=128k is 9.2MB/s
[16:47] <sokak> bluegoon, i installed xchat today and seems working fine. Tried to purge and reinstall it?
[16:47] <HQRaja> Can anyone please help me fix this issue?
[16:48] <sokak> |Anthony|, working over usb? ;)
[16:48] <bluegoon> sodak, try to save settings like join room on connect, and join/hide message hiding, then restart the app, it will forget everything.
[16:48] <|Anthony|> sokak, nope
[16:48] <sokak> |Anthony|, thats uber odd :3
[16:48] <|Anthony|> sata II
[16:48] <webnet> Amon-Ra, hmm its somewhat stranfge that tutorial... a .desktop is an entry for a launcher, but thats sort of an odd way to do it IMO. lol. its easier for a (No offence intended here) average to semi advanced user to add it with the add launcher dialog...
[16:49] <Generic_Dumbass> What do you all use to manage dual monitors on Ubuntu? I use Ultramon on Windows because it gives hotkeys for stuff like "move window to other monitor" and "stretch window across both monitors"
[16:49] <luis_> OerHeks, sipior, that's the problem. I cannot isolate the issue just by switching kernels
[16:49] <luis_> the last post on the bug
[16:49] <luis_> tells that something else is wrong
[16:49] <HQRaja> ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ Unity Launcher, Y U NO WORK IN A SANE MANNER???!!!111
[16:49] <Amon-Ra> webnet: so if i search for add launcher help on google i may manage it.. ? :)
[16:49] <webnet> Generic_Dumbass, um what version of ubuntu?
[16:49] <sokak> Generic_Dumbass, tried the monitor settings, or in case of invidia, the nvidia manager?
[16:49] <sipior> luis_: right, but what changed between the first time (when it worked), and the second time (when it failed with the same kernel)?
[16:50] <Generic_Dumbass> webnet: i have two: ones' the latest, one's the version before that
[16:50] <Lamb> could someone point me in the right direction please?
[16:50] <Lamb> I need help installing ubuntu on this netbook
[16:50] <Generic_Dumbass> sokak: Does the nvidia manager have stuff like that? Excellent, I'll try it.
[16:50] <Lamb> but its defaulted to an express gate cloud
[16:50] <Lamb> and I get seem to get the usb to boot
[16:50] <sokak> |Anthony|, im sitting on a rate more than triple than yours. Checked all the cable, and the disk is working properly at the fastest rate in the bios?
[16:50] <Lamb> nor access the bios
[16:50] <webnet> Generic_Dumbass, ok because there have been quite a few having problems with dual monitors with unity... i never have a problem dualing with gnome, but several people have come on here and cant get it working... :/
[16:50] <luis_> sipior, cannot tell. on the same session i made one attempt and worked. then the second attempt and later attemps failed. i tried login in on text mode and running in command line and works
[16:50] <Generic_Dumbass> webnet: My duals work completely fine on Ubuntu, I just want those special commands.
[16:51] <Generic_Dumbass> They're plug and play.
[16:51] <sokak> Generic_Dumbass, poke around X monitor settings in nvidia settings manager :)
[16:51] <tightwork> Lamb: turn on, press del/f2/f10/backspace
[16:51] <Exxon> sipior, running a custom kernal ??
[16:51] <Generic_Dumbass> sokak: exxxxxxxxcellent
[16:51] <aikInsaan> mneptok thanks!
[16:51] <sipior> Exxon: i think maybe you meant that for someone else.
[16:51] <luis_> sipior,  that's the big trouble. if I could tell the difference I could isolate the problem. the problem is that I cannot recreate the issue
[16:52] <Generic_Dumbass> webnet: I turned off Unity anyway
[16:52] <|Anthony|> sokak, i'll have to recheck in bios, but testing various count= sizes does effect it... the larger the count, the slower it goes
[16:52] <sokak> Generic_Dumbass, more precisely, X Server Display Configuration
[16:52] <Generic_Dumbass> sokak: noted
[16:52] <jutnux> Generic_Dumbass: What DE do you use now?
[16:52] <Lamb> tightwork: did nothing
[16:52] <sokak> Lamb, on some is esc as well
[16:52] <webnet> Generic_Dumbass, Oh ok. thats great! i thought you were talking about managing as in getting 2 to work. haha. yeah i hate unity. IMO worthless bloatware
[16:52] <sipior> luis_: does it consistently work from the console?
[16:53] <Generic_Dumbass> jutnux: whatever comes default on 11.04 ?
[16:53] <jutnux> Unity.
[16:53] <Generic_Dumbass> jutnux: But there was an option to use classic, and I chose that
[16:53] <sokak> |Anthony|, such a slow rate over sata smells like disk misconfigured, or bad cable, or worst, disk going apeshit, checked with smartctl?
[16:53] <Generic_Dumbass> I thought you'd meant gnome vs. whatever
[16:54] <luis_> sipior, the 4 or 3 times i've tried it worked. but not from the console. starting a session without graphics like gnome or unity.
[16:54] <sokak> cant manage to upgrade from Maverick - i dont poke my junk until works
[16:54] <luis_> sipior, the consisten error is  [  198.632108] Freezing of tasks failed after 20.01 seconds (1 tasks refusing to freeze, wq_busy=0):
 [  198.632226] mount.nfs       D ff001100     0   932    931 0x00800004
[16:54] <sipior> luis_: so, something to try: start unity or whatever as normal, then get to a console via "ctrl-alt-F1". try hibernating from there and see what happens.
[16:55] <Lamb> sokak: nothing works
[16:55] <luis_> sipior, already tried that. the same thing happens
[16:55] <jutnux> Generic_Dumbass: If you ever upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10/12.04, I suggest you try Xubuntu. It replicated gnome-2 well.
[16:55] <Exxon> sipior, sry not for you.. may be luis_
[16:55] <Lamb> I tried, esc f2 f10 del and backspace, together and seperatly
[16:55] <sipior> luis_: interesting. what happens if you unmount your nfs share first?
[16:56] <sokak> Lamb, can you remind me exactly your rig model/mobo?
[16:56] <Lamb> eeepc seashell series
[16:56] <luis_> sipior, i'm kinda stuck in that. when i list the mounts i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/767958/
[16:56] <luis_> sipior,  so it doesn't seem to be any mounted nfs shares
[16:57] <Lamb> model:1015PX
[16:57] <luis_> or am I doing the wrong thing?
[16:57] <luis_> sipior,  i've also altered the common.conf to unmount all nfs and other stuff
[16:57] <sipior> luis_: how about turning off fuse?
[16:58] <luis_> sipior,  any directions for doing that?
[16:58] <Exxon> luis_, if you are running custom kernel ; you are on our own
[16:58] <Generic_Dumbass> jutnux: And by that you mean, avoids Unity?
[16:58] <luis_> Exxon, I'm not
[16:59] <Generic_Dumbass> I was avoiding upgrading because I'd heard 'classic' was no longer an option in 11.10, but i may be wrong
[16:59] <luis_> Exxon, i've just run the rc version for testing
[16:59] <shaullx> how come it won't let me install unrar?
[16:59] <luis_> now i'm with the official
[16:59] <HQRaja> [Repeat] Please help. I am going insane :( I learned how to make a .desktop file, created one, added the arguments and it's working fine by itself...shows the right icon, launches the app with the right arguments, BUT when I drag it to the Unity launcher to pin it there, it does get pinned but WITHOUT the icon. Clicking on it works, but it looks awful as just an empty space in the launcher :(
[16:59] <HQRaja> Googled but couldn't find anything on it
[16:59] <shaullx> package unrar has no installation candidate
[17:00] <shaullx> o.o
[17:00] <shaullx> apt-get is updated
[17:00] <oCean> !info unrar
[17:01] <sipior> luis_: you can just remove all mounted fuse filesystems with fusermount -u. does "ps aux | grep -i fuse" turn up anything of interest?
[17:01] <oCean> shaullx: ^you have multiverse enabled?
[17:01] <shaullx> probably not, how to enable it?
[17:01] <shaullx> i got 'unrar-free' installed, but when i extract something it just fails on every file
[17:02] <shaullx> it only extracts empty folders
[17:02] <oCean> !multiverse | shaullx
[17:02] <luis_> sipior, invalid option -- '.'
[17:03] <sipior> luis_: we often terminate sentences with a "." in english :-)
[17:03] <sokak> Lamb, im still here, just a sec
[17:03] <luis_> sipior, sorry, i though it was a string of commands!
[17:03] <diverdude> on mac i can do echo "hello" | pbcopy    and have hello in the clipboard. Can i do the same in ubuntu?
[17:04] <Exxon> shaullx, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[17:04] <Lamb> still nothing
[17:04] <GaRRu> sipior, that's right. Sadly.
[17:04] <Lamb> no matter what I do it just immediately boots into the express gate cloud
[17:04] <Exxon> shaullx, sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:04] <oCean> diverdude: there's package 'xsel'  (so you can do  echo blah | xsel ) but i'm not sure which clipboard it uses
[17:05] <sipior> GaRRu: i had never thought to attach an emotion to grammar.
[17:05] <luis_> sipior, luis      1699  0.0  0.0  31468  2092 ?        Ssl  12:34   0:00 /usr/lib/gvfs//gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/luis/.gvfs
[17:05] <luis_> luis      6416  0.0  0.0   6896   816 pts/0    S+   15:04   0:00 grep --color=auto -i fuse
[17:05] <Sharpshooter> Exxon,  I compiled and I got stuck with libbluetooth.so.2 how can I get the new version for ubuntu
[17:05] <_calum> Hey. I have an adapter to connect my nintendo 64 controller to my laptop. Can I use this with Mupen64
[17:06] <GaRRu> sipior, I didn't attach no emotion, I just said... sadly.
[17:06] <diverdude> oCean, i have installed it but i cannot paste in firefox
[17:06] <sokak> Lamb, its Esc, its written on the manual
[17:06] <sipior> luis_: this might be the problem, and the reason that hibernate stalls when gnome is running. gnome won't like it if you kill this process, but try it anyway.
[17:06] <sokak> Lamb, try bashing it like crazy
[17:06] <Lamb> I agree with you sokak, but no matter what I do it ignores it
[17:07] <sokak> ooo
[17:07] <sokak> wait
[17:07] <oCean> diverdude: paste with ctrl-v or mouse? Just guessing here..
[17:07] <Lamb> Im gonna see if updating express gate  will help
[17:07] <sokak> Lamb, i feel retard, it says 'Press F2 to show post screen, then F2 again to enter bios
[17:07] <diverdude> oCean, ctrl-v dont work
[17:08] <Exxon> Sharpshooter, sooner or later you will have to learn to compile ; there is no get away with that
[17:08] <Lamb> I'll give it a try
[17:08] <sokak> Sharpshooter, its easier than what you think
[17:08] <travisHAZE> Is there a good website to learn how to compile?
[17:08] <travisHAZE> Cause I know I need to learn that
[17:08] <travisHAZE> I know make
[17:08] <travisHAZE> and ./configure
[17:08] <luis_> sipior, so what's the best way to kill gnome?
[17:08] <sokak> youre past than halfway
[17:08] <travisHAZE> But thats all I know
[17:08] <luis_> sipior,  I just issue the command on the hibernate script?
[17:08] <sipior> luis_:
[17:09] <travisHAZE> I tried compiling FreeCiv
[17:09] <travisHAZE> I ended up kicking my desk from frustration
[17:09] <sipior> luis_: "kill 1699"
[17:09] <Sharpshooter> sokak, , I appreciate It
[17:09] <_calum> is it possible to use a Nintendo64 controller with Mupen64? Can I just plug the adapter in?
[17:09] <sokak> travisHAZE, after ./configure, if doesnt spew errors, you make, and if make dont spew errors, just make install
[17:09] <travisHAZE> What if it DOES spew errors?
[17:09] <sipior> luis_: the idea is just to kill the gvfs-fuse-daemon process, and see if that frees you up for hibernation.
[17:09] <arosales> #ubuntu-cloud
[17:09] <sokak> _calum, open xev, if it produces events, the answer is yes
[17:10] <luis_> ok, i'll give a try sipior
[17:10] <_calum> sokak:Sorry, what is xev?
[17:10] <sokak> travisHAZE, usually errors are self explanatory: read the error, and try to find what you miss and apt-get it.
[17:10] <oCean> diverdude: yeah, xsel is probably using the x clipboard, I'm not sure how you could change that
[17:11] <sokak> _calum, open a terminal and type xev
[17:11] <_calum> ahh right
[17:11] <sokak> ;)
[17:11] <webnet> diverdude, Loving the netbeans php ide! thanks for the tip bro.
[17:11] <sokak> _calum, the ps3 pad worked flawlessly over usb, with a little tweak over bt
[17:12] <sokak> Lamb, try again and more, with my old little 901 bastard, its hard as well to enter bios
[17:12] <Lamb> sokak my manual is in chinese
[17:12] <Lamb> =(
[17:12] <ileavasile> hi all
[17:12] <_calum> ok I typed xev theres some stuff happening I don't understand but something when I plugged it in
[17:12] <Lamb> so I need to spam F2?
[17:12] <sipior> Lamb: good time to learn.
[17:13] <sokak> _calum, try to press buttons. They show in events?
[17:13] <mickepaprika> anyone who has any idea what to do about the sound delay in flash?
[17:13] <luis_> sipior, tried killing gvfs-fuse-daemon, but it's not running!
[17:13] <sokak> Lamb, try here http://www.retrevo.com/d/ds/progress?doc=a99efc725dfb7820e9f3fea3e42ab4e0&rk=0.15291163751091852
[17:13] <_calum> nothing happens when I press the buttons
[17:13] <ileavasile> what nvidia driver is stable and good to install? nvidia accelereted graphics version 173 or version 93?
[17:13] <sipior> luis_: and what does ps say?
[17:14] <_calum> oh wait something changed
[17:14] <sokak> ileavasile, it depends on your card
[17:14] <Exxon> Sharpshooter, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[17:14] <Sharpshooter> Exxon,  Thank man !! :)
[17:14] <sokak> _calum, if it spew stuff when you press buttons, you may be able to see it correctly in the emulator config
[17:15] <luis_> sipior, root      7122  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:10   0:00 [flush-8:1-fuseb]
[17:15] <luis_> root      7123  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    15:10   0:00 [flush-8:7-fuseb]
[17:15] <luis_> luis      7595  0.0  0.0   6896   820 pts/0    S+   15:14   0:00 grep --color=auto -i fuse
[17:15] <reesk> can anyone recomend a really lean gui version of ubuntu all it needs to do is samba webserver and subsonic including its dependancies
[17:15] <sipior> !pastebin > luis_
[17:15] <sokak> reesk, then why gui :P
[17:15] <sipior> luis_: something for next time...
[17:15] <Exxon> !pastebin | luis_
[17:15] <_calum> sokak:I'll see if the emulator detected it
[17:16] <luis_> sorry, sipior Exxon,
[17:16] <reesk> cause i am  lazy and like to click things than terminal
[17:16] <sipior> luis_: can you hibernate now?
[17:16] <sokak> _calum im crossing fingers :) With ps3 pad was one two three :)
[17:16] <sipior> luis_: it's fine, you didn't know.
[17:16] <luis_> sipior, no, negative. same symptoms
[17:16] <ileavasile> i have nvidia geforce 6150 nforce 430
[17:16] <_calum> :)
[17:16] <ileavasile> what could be good?
[17:16] <sipior> luis_: and what about from the console?
[17:16] <reesk> i know i suck but its how im most comfortable windoze has spoiled me
[17:17] <sokak> reesk, rip gnome and use fluxbox
[17:17] <Lamb2> hmm
[17:17] <luis_> sipior, let me check. any debugging options that i should issue for better follow up? or just sudo hibernate?
[17:17] <ileavasile> i ask because other time with a difrent version of ubuntu i instaled the driver and after restart it was stuck at lo resolution of 640
[17:17] <ileavasile> :(
[17:17] <reesk> how easy is that to do
[17:17] <Lamb2> still no luck
[17:17] <Lamb2> what does POST mean?
[17:17] <_calum> sokak:I'll just load up Ocarina of time and see if it does anything
[17:17] <reesk> if it helps the specs are 640mhz 2gb ram and 4gb or 8gb hdd
[17:18] <sipior> luis_: that's a good question. i don't see anything useful in the man page for pm-hibernate.
[17:18] <sokak> Lamb2, POST messages are just the text spewn on monitor instead of the graphical eeepc thingie
[17:18] <dragomir> Hi everyone. I have an external drive that I needed formatted in hsf+, then I need to transfer some files into it. I also need to make sure that Mac can read. I have ubuntu 10.04 and I just installed Gparted. How can I do this?
[17:19] <sokak> see, the hdd detected, ram and stuff
[17:19] <Lamb2> I get zero post messages
[17:19] <Lamb2> it just boot directly to the Express Gate
[17:19] <sokak> Lamb2, still just showing the eeepc grahpic and then boot to os?
[17:19] <luis_> sipior, same symptoms from the console. one other things that shows up is "Tuxonice binary signature file not found"
[17:20] <Lamb2> hes exactly what I see:
[17:20] <reesk> is there a buntu equivlent to puppy or dsl
[17:20] <Lamb2> off --> black screen --> express gate cloud appears
[17:20] <sokak> ileavasile, go there and check the recommended
[17:20] <sokak> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[17:21] <ileavasile> the recomanded driver to try and install?
[17:21] <Lamb2> doing the black screen I can see characters appear if I spam something but nothing happens when I do
[17:21] <sokak> ileavasile, the number goes with some gpu models at once, cant remember the schema
[17:21] <ileavasile> i downloaded the exact driver from nvidia page
[17:21] <sokak> ileavasile, as for me, i installed the xswat ppa and then installed the recommended driver from jockey GTK
[17:22] <ileavasile> but its .run and i dont know how to install it
[17:22] <sokak> Lamb2, i have no clue... If tapping F2, or just keeping it pressed is not gonna work, i have no more clues. Thats all it was written in the manual i linked you
[17:22] <sipior> luis_: bizarre. well, i would say that the information about the mount.nfs error and fuse might be a useful thing to add to your bug report. it seems likely that hibernate is stalling on some pending volume unmount. the person dealing with the bug reports might have a better idea about how to test that further (or perhaps it's a duplicate of a bug seen elsewhere)
[17:23] <Lamb2> Im beginning to think that the express gate is its bios of sorts
[17:23] <Exxon> reesk, so you want to configure dsl regardless what distro are you using that's so
[17:23] <Lamb2> the express gate has an option to install a windows os
[17:24] <sipior> luis_: unfortunately, i need to be on my way. so, i'll wish you the best of luck sorting this annoying problem out.
[17:24] <reesk> i have no idea what i want other than the services i need i mainly want something small based on ubuntu so i can use the repositories for easy install goodness
[17:24] <Lamb2> but, I dont wanna do that
[17:24] <sokak> ileavasile, open a terminal and do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates if you want the latest stable
[17:24] <luis_> thank you very much sipior for all the help!
[17:24] <genewitch> reesk: mint?
[17:24] <sipior> luis_: no trouble.
[17:24] <sokak> then apt-get update and then open jockey.
[17:24] <reesk> ill give it a look
[17:25] <reesk> is mint debian based cause i like the look of it
[17:25] <genewitch> reesk: crunchbang
[17:25] <sokak> ileavasile, that worked like a breeze for my 570 GTX
[17:25] <genewitch> reesk: they're based on ubuntu
[17:25] <genewitch> crunchbang is decent.
[17:25] <reesk> sweet
[17:25] <Exxon> reesk, L-ubuntu is small, light weight and easy like hell.. (windows)
[17:26] <reesk> could i get away with a 640mhz cpu for the light applications ill be using
[17:26] <genewitch> reesk: i was wrong, both linux mint and crunchbang are debian forks now not ubuntu
[17:26] <codazoda> Oneiric just did a kernel update from 3.0.0-13 to 3.0.0-14.  When I book 3.0.0-14 my MacBook Pro (7,1) locks up on the splash screen.  I can select previous versions and boot 3.0.0-13 just fine.  Any thoughts on where I might look for the problem?
[17:26] <ileavasile> ubuntu x-swat or x update or both like you tiped?
[17:27] <mneptok> genewitch: we prefer recommending official Ubuntu derivatives. mostly because if someone installs Mint or Cruchbang, they will NOT receive support on this channel. which can be an unpleasant surprise for a new user.
[17:27] <reesk> debian is fine it just needs to be debian cause its the best supported os for subsonic
[17:27] <sokak> ileavasile, exactly as i typed for apt-add-repository for stable releases, but there are also ppa's for bleeding edge drivers and downgraded drivers
[17:28] <mneptok> reesk: if you install anything without Ubuntu in the name, this channel will not be a source of help for you.
[17:28] <reesk> ok
[17:28] <Exxon> reesk, ram should be min 512
[17:28] <reesk> i got 2gb ram
[17:28] <_calum> sokak:Ocarina of time won't allow me to use the controller, which plugin should I select?
[17:28] <sokak> reesk, you can almost go swapless
[17:29] <sokak> _calum, good question. I dont have a n64 pad to try. Its a matter of trial and error.
[17:29] <Nurse_Kun> So, I want to use the Play framework for Java, yet there's already this other program called 'play' with that namespace for audio stuff in Ubuntu
[17:29] <Exxon> reesk, so why do you wait try it out it has wubi.exe and lxde desktop
[17:29] <reesk> yeah thats fine mneptok im mainly here for advice on a ubuntu os the rest i can sort out myself through google just os selection is easier if you ask people
[17:29] <phong_> hi all
[17:29] <ileavasile> write it again please only what i need to enter in terminal so i can copy paste
[17:29] <Nurse_Kun> How can I uninstall the audio 'play' so I don't have a conflict with the framework Play
[17:29] <phong_> how yall doing?
[17:29] <_calum> ok. I'll test them 1 by 1
[17:29] <phong_> yall okay?
[17:29] <reesk> whats wubi
[17:30] <mneptok> phong_: questions and answers in this channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat/
[17:30] <sokak> ileavasile, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[17:30] <Exxon> reesk, never mind try it in virtual box instead
[17:30] <sokak> Exxon, why not a live usb?
[17:31] <reesk> ok
[17:31] <Exxon> sokak, like usb is mostly not bootable that's why
[17:31] <reesk> ill prolly just go straight to live hardware cause the machiens not doing anything else
[17:31] <mneptok> reesk: what is your planned usage of this machine?
[17:31] <reesk> after doing lile 20 installs on that machine im pretty much used to it
[17:31] <sokak> Exxon, thats a point youre showing here :)
[17:32] <reesk> basic server so net shares webserver and subsonic if i wanna get fancy then ill prolly do torrents
[17:32] <mneptok> reesk: you don't need a GUI for any of that
[17:32] <sokak> I should go and scavenge some old hardware to get again in touch with non bootable usbs
[17:32] <Exxon> sokak, many got fustrated trying to boot a usb with the ubuntu on it..so its a serious issue with it
[17:33] <soreau> _calum: FWIW, I built a circuit to interface 4 N64 controllers via parallel port and it works great with mupen64plus
[17:33] <sokak> Exxon, maybe were too used to boot from anything, still, its a sure shoot with unetbootin, if the mobo is usb bootin capable
[17:33] <soreau> _calum: I even implemented force feedback (rumble) support in the gamecon driver ;)
[17:33] <mneptok> parallel port? non-USB aware BIOS? when am i?
[17:33] <elb0w> anyone else get a bug where the unity taskbar stays out
[17:33] <sokak> mneptok, this is the u-mummy channel
[17:33] <_calum> awesome. Don't seem to be having much luck playing Ocarina of time with the adapter though
[17:34] <GaRRu> Does anyone have a Auto DC from Wicd? if yes, would you help me on configuring it not to do so?
[17:34] <reesk> mneptok i know but termial scares the crackers out of me i like gui installers and the like
[17:34] <reesk> i almost have a mental breakdown just cd'ing to directories
[17:34] <soreau> _calum: For those usb interface devices, I hear that adaptoid works but not sure about some of the other no-name devices. See if you have /dev/input/js0 and test it with jstest
[17:35] <sokak> reesk, shell is like wiskey, dont be scared of the first shot, just go on and let's go dizzy
[17:35] <reesk> id rather click icons than have to do everything in terminal
[17:35] <_calum> thanks soreau
[17:35] <Exxon> sokak, that the lousy post in bootin.. only if i could delete that one...or re-directed to main website for    http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[17:35] <reesk> ive done termial it was almost the onl option for freenas and it loves to either not do something fuck soething up or just plain not work
[17:36] <webnet> reesk there are support channels available foro you however, just not here
[17:36] <Pici> reesk: Please mind your language in this channel.
[17:36] <Nurse_Kun> anyone know how to fix the namespace issue with play and play?
[17:36] <sokak> Exxon, sorry for omitting the sauce, but im burning 4 tb of stuff and i shall finish before tomorrow T_T
[17:36] <reesk> eeps sorry
[17:36] <Nurse_Kun> the audio play and the java framework play
[17:36] <Lamb2> omg sokak I got it
[17:36] <sokak> Lamb2, thopse who persist shall win.
[17:37] <Tech-1> reesk:  plain ol debian should work fine...from experience
[17:37] <webnet> reesk i was referring to if you install crunchbang or something. lol. i wasnt ousting you haha.
[17:37] <Lamb2> I had to go into the Express Gate Cloud and disable its own autoboot
[17:37] <reesk> ahh
[17:37] <Lamb2> and make it boot to windows (which didnt exist
[17:37] <reesk> im gonna throw crunchbang on
[17:37] <reesk> btw love 11.10 it looks pretty sexy
[17:37] <sokak> Lamb2, get rid of it ;) just dd the hdd first if you want to save a copy of everything all at once
[17:38] <webnet> i  was reading back cause i was in a pm for a while and i didnt realize that was so far back. lol reesk. sorry didnt mean to freak you out. haha.
[17:38] <_calum> soreau: jstest detected it! I'm 1 step closer. However its showing 2
[17:38] <Exxon> reesk, what you see is what you get ..:))
[17:38] <soreau> _calum: showing two of what?
[17:38] <reesk> so if it looks sexy then i get what ..... sex?
[17:39] <_calum> 2 usb gamepads, HuiJia USB gamepad
[17:39] <webnet> reesk, if you do need help on crunchbang installs, there is a channel on freenode for it. check out #crunchbang
[17:39] <soreau> _calum: What is detecting two?
[17:39] <_calum> jstest
[17:39] <sokak> _calum, can you identify it with lsusb please?
[17:39] <reesk> sweet tbh i should be fine lamp install is well documented as will the others only thing ill get stuck on is the samba so ill rememebr that channel
[17:40] <carsten> test
[17:40] <soreau> _calum: I dont really understand. jstest operates on a single input device node afaik. For example you would use jstest /dev/input/js0 to test the first joystick
[17:40] <GaRRu> Can anyone /pm me with some Wicd Network manager help? Id be glad.
[17:40] <_calum> I see nothing about usb gamepad in lsusb output
[17:41] <webnet> reesk, haha sex. :P good come back hahahaha. i love it :P but the point he is making is that unity looks god, but thats where the advantages stop...
[17:41] <soreau> _calum: If it works with jstest, you should be able to select Blight input plugin in mupen64plus and select the joystick from the dropdown list in the config for it IIRC
[17:41] <_calum> right
[17:41] <reesk> rly how could it be worse than a previous install
[17:41] <sokak> _calum, sorry, i meant to identify the adapter brand.
[17:41] <reesk> unless canoacle did a vista on us
[17:42] <Alexey> Hi
[17:42] <webnet> unity is great for a netbook , tablet or a novice linux user on a desktop, but it lacks the basic necessities for a good desktop env. for example... right click context menus?
[17:42] <Alexey> I need advice again))
[17:42] <sokak> webnet, i agree from the bottom of my heart
[17:42] <Alexey> I have installed Xubuntu just now
[17:42] <webnet> sokak, aabout unity?
[17:42] <Alexey> reboot the Sys
[17:42] <reesk> yeah i did notice that
[17:42] <_calum> Yes! On jstest it registers the button input!
[17:42] <reesk> i wanna see something new in the gui tbh
[17:43] <sokak> webnet, im scared to touch it with a stick - sticking to Maverick right now
[17:43] <reesk> it seems to stay the same for the task bar
[17:43] <Alexey> but grub was not launched
[17:43] <reesk> and definatly not compiz
[17:43] <reesk> that makes me cringe
[17:43] <reesk> its like every feature in 7 i turn off
[17:43] <sokak> Alexey, did it hangs on black screen?
[17:43] <webnet> sokak, maverick for the win. i dont want to move past maverick... not yet at least... gnome 3 is stilll to new and a bit buggy so i want to wait fot it to mature a bit before ill switch
[17:44] <mneptok> reesk: the UNIX shell is one of the best computing tools ever developed. remote administration cannot done be done more simply. it is well worth learning to use the command line.
[17:44] <Alexey> no just launched win7
[17:44] <sokak> webnet, im having hard crashes because of nvidia kernel module, once in a while. I do want to upgrade, but ill wait as well
[17:45] <sokak> Alexey, so you installed kubuntu after 7?
[17:45] <Alexey> yes xbuntu after 7
[17:45] <reesk> but its scary mneptok they have so many switches and commands even in windows i only know like 4 commands ipconfig shutdown cd and attrib
[17:45] <Tech-1> heh, time to learn
[17:45] <Lamb2> its done
[17:45] <Lamb2> thanks for all the support sokak
[17:46] <webnet> reesk, sokak, i have to give conical props though. it was a gutsy and bold move for them to oust gnome and use unity... i dont like it, but i give them a bit of respect for taking such a big risk... I think i want to develop gubuntu. take the newest releases and strip the giu off and install gnome 2
[17:46] <sokak> Alexey, im not grub wise, i always messed it, but i tried once succesfully the super grub disk http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[17:46] <reesk> like cdx -r -i -gh -sj /mnt/blarba/ thingy thingy -e just to make it do something simple like unzip a folder
[17:46] <Tech-1> reesk:  theres plenty of man pages out there to learn from.
[17:46] <sokak> Lamb2, you're welcome
[17:46] <phlak_user> reesk, to unzip you just type unzip foo.zip
[17:47] <sokak> webnet, i do agree, still i wont touch it because im *freakin* lazy
[17:47] <brightspark> webnet, have you seen the 'MATE' fork of gnome?
[17:47] <diatomaceous> does anyone know which setting in gtk2.0/gtkrc or gtk3.0/gtk.css controls the background color of a nautilus window?
[17:47] <reesk> 
[17:47] <Alexey> Sokak, cheers now checking
[17:47] <Matt_Slack_Debia> I have a question about Ubuntu and Grub, I installed 11.10 twice, didn't work on 2nd boot, twice, hated dasher, installed 11.04, like the Gnome, afraid to 2nd boot because I cannot find anything to manually configure Grub in the Gnome System Tools.   Liloconfig was so much easier.
[17:47] <sokak> Alexey, yw
[17:47] <_calum> sokak:Its working :)
[17:47] <soreau> _calum: In m64+:?
[17:47] <phlak_user> Matt_Slack_Debia, so whats the question?
[17:47] <sokak> _calum, for the win ;) You shall never give up :D
[17:48] <reesk> i jsut like my guis its a nooby thing
[17:48] <_calum> yea, I hit start and it brought up the menu :)
[17:48] <mneptok> reesk: i use "unzip $FILENAME" to unzip stuff. couldn't be easier.
[17:48] <webnet> bright spark. no... what is it? gnome 2 developed further?
[17:48] <sokak> reesk, once you learn shell, you will do things million times faster
[17:48] <webnet> * brightspark : my last msg fwas for you
[17:48]  * reesk screams and stomps his feet
[17:49] <reesk> i dont wanna learn shell momma please dont make me waaaaahhhh
[17:49] <soreau> _calum: Cool. Now that its configured, you can play the ocarina by holding a note and moving the joystick ;)
[17:49] <reesk> lol
[17:49] <Matt_Slack_Debia> Thank you phlak_user, what is the simplest way to configure Grub using a graphical interface, not running several shell tools, with their own interpreters, that I could not make work ?
[17:49] <Tech-1> reesk:  sudo halt
[17:49] <reesk> hmmm
[17:49] <_calum> yeh :)
[17:49] <reesk> pasword for root?
[17:49] <sokak> reesk, shell wasnt built in a day :) plug in commandlinefu.com and play
[17:49] <EvilResistance> !root | reesk
[17:49] <boldfilter> Ugh UNITY why you freeze
[17:49] <_calum> good video performance too, so far
[17:49] <mneptok> reesk: not to mention you are building a server on hardware with limitations. why eat up RAM and CPU just for an unecessary GUI (and all the shared libs that come with it)? not to mention, each piece of software you install introduces more potential security issues.
[17:50] <brightspark> webnet, essentially.  I think they are trying to maintain rather than extend at this point.
[17:50] <reesk> guh
[17:50] <reesk> ok
[17:50] <bytesaber_work> What do we use instead of refit now for multi boot?  refit doesn't seem to work well with Lion
[17:50] <sokak> mneptok, i agree with hardening
[17:50] <webnet> brightspark, are they on sourceforge or do they have a website?
[17:50] <_calum> I'm so happy zelda works in Linux :)
[17:51] <Matt_Slack_Debia> Problem on first and second boot of new system is, I have no screen during Grub.  I want to make it a text screen, so at least I can see what it is doing wrong.
[17:51] <webnet> _calum, zelda for the win :D
[17:51] <sokak> _calum, everything potentially can run in linux, it depends on how much time you tweak it :)
[17:51] <conntrack> I'm getting my nicks confused
[17:51] <reesk> ok lets get this show on the road which shoudl i do to learn shell A) do a frugal instals of buntu B) run it in a emulator c) live cd  d isnt a option cause i cant be fucking with the partitions on this machien cause my resotre partition is in here and i dont wanna take any chances
[17:51] <brightspark> webnet, I don't know if they have a sourceforge... their github is here: https://github.com/Perberos/Mate-Desktop-Environment
[17:51] <_calum> yeah I guess. I'll experiment with other games too
[17:51] <mneptok> reesk: install the server version of Ubuntu, and i can practically guarantee that some user in this channel or #ubuntu-server will walk you through whatever you need to do.
[17:52] <Matt_Slack_Debia> First boot if I wait, Ubuntu comes up.  Second time, never comes up, monitor shuts off with no input.
[17:52] <phlak_user> Matt_Slack_Debia, not sure what you want to configure in grub but most options sit in /etc/default/grub and that can be edited with a graphical text editor like gedit; once you save your changes, you need to run a command called update-grub2
[17:52] <OerHeks> reesk please watch your language
[17:52] <Alexey> I see sgd will work from external source and will help if you cannot boot the sys
[17:52] <reesk> what lnguage
[17:52] <mneptok> reesk: if it doesn't work out, just use "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to add a GUI to your existing installation
[17:52] <reesk> oh nuts
[17:52] <webnet> brightspark,  github sf its the same concept. :) thanks for the link. i googled mate de and got some rather "strange" results. haha
[17:52] <reesk> why do i swear without thinking
[17:52] <sokak> Alexey, yes, and that can be a lifesaver many times
[17:53] <brightspark> webnet, I don't even want know... there's possibilities.
[17:53] <phlak_user> reesk, you seem to be confused about how livecd works; it doesnt work with your hdd partitions
[17:53] <Alexey> all right checking again
[17:53] <_calum> now I just have to put up with Navi. *sigh*
[17:53] <reesk> i know it dosent
[17:53] <webnet> brightspark, yeah... we will put it in the not safe for work category... haha
[17:53] <soreau> _calum: hold down f for fast forward
[17:53] <_calum> ahh cool you mean I can shut her up?
[17:54] <soreau> _calum: No, just speed up emulation ;)
[17:54] <reesk> im just saying id like to runa  full destop buntu for learning termianl on also cause tbh i love buntu just dont wanna risk installing and messing up my windows install or even worse my restore partition cause then im nutterd
[17:54] <sokak> sweet, i've found the best way to catalog and search backups in a breeze.
[17:54] <sokak> reesk, time to buy a secondary hdd
[17:54] <phlak_user> reesk, the livecd is a full desktop by itself
[17:54] <_calum> ahh ok. I'd pay someone to write a shut up Navi plugin/hack :)
[17:54] <reesk> laptop = no second hdd
[17:55] <reesk> is it frugal that lets you install to a folder on the hdd rather than the hdd istself
[17:55] <webnet> would anyone be interested if i made a ubuntu fork for 11.X + using mate desktop env? would anyone use it?
[17:55] <Matt_Slack_Debia> what is the line in /etc/default/grub that I should edit to keep it from trying to give me a graphics screen and just give me a text console during the Grub phase of booting ?
[17:55] <sokak> reesk, 8 gb is enough for a small server, just slap a pendrive
[17:55] <brightspark> reesk, I know someone who installed to a 32GB flash drive, no probs.
[17:55] <soreau> _calum: save/restore state are your friends
[17:55] <Matt_Slack_Debia> With text, at least I can see what it is doing.
[17:55] <boldfilter> Is it smart to give your vm all your processors?
[17:55] <CyrusSmith> hi all, done something really stupid: formatted windows partition installed ubuntu on it. but i forgot to backup my main. what program can i use to "un- delete" the mail files. ie backup.pst somewhere in application data
[17:55] <reesk> hmm
[17:55] <CyrusSmith> main=mail
[17:55] <reesk> im gonna give it some serious thought
[17:55] <Tech-1> web1109:  didnt mint do that ??
[17:55] <Tech-1> webnet:
[17:55] <reesk> meanwhile im gonna put ubuntu on the server
[17:56] <_calum> thanks for the help everyone
[17:56] <sokak> CyrusSmith, if you've overwritten a partition, is mostly gone
[17:56] <CyrusSmith> yea i know but was hoping i could somehow get some files back
[17:56] <sokak> _calum, yw, i did nuffin :)
[17:57] <webnet> Tech-1, they arent a ubuntu fork anymore though... they forked debian now i believe. im not talking about a whole new distro, im just talking about a remix like kubuntu or xubuntu except with the mate or straightup gnome evironment.
[17:57] <Tech-1> sokak:  youve got character
[17:57] <brightspark> CyrusSmith, short of computer forensics where they analyse differences in charge across the HDD, you are pretty much sunk.
[17:57] <sokak> CyrusSmith, prepare a spare hdd bigger than the overwritten one, boot from a live, and try testdisk. With my best wishes
[17:57] <axisys> what is the spanish keyboard layout to choose for laptop?
[17:58] <phlak_user> Matt_Slack_Debia, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash=verbose"
[17:58] <CyrusSmith> sokak thanx man. i checked it out but couldnt figure out how to work the prog....lol
[17:58] <Matt_Slack_Debia> Thank you Phlak_user
[17:58] <sokak> it saved my arse. $ terabytes of it.
[17:58] <sokak> 4*
[17:59] <axisys> all spanish keyboard layout I saw in Keyboard Preferce has three keys between L and Enter .. my HP 6730b has two keys between L and enter
[17:59] <CyrusSmith> sokak, hectic. can you guide me to a how to
[17:59] <sokak> axisys, try some and test, its a matter of trial and error
[18:00] <sokak> CyrusSmith, i cant grant results. My partition was just erased, not overwritten.
[18:00] <CyrusSmith> sokak, worth a try though
[18:00] <reesk> ok questions 1 shall i go for ubuntu server 11.10 or 10.04 lts
[18:01] <sokak> Then use the guide i used first, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[18:01] <Tech-1> server
[18:01] <CyrusSmith> sokak, cool thanx man
[18:01] <sokak> CyrusSmith, yw, and good luck
[18:01] <CyrusSmith> sokak, cheers gonna try it now
[18:01] <CyrusSmith> :)
[18:02] <sokak> and watch out what you blast next time xD
[18:02] <axisys> sokak: every spanish layout preview I see has three keys between L and Enter.. I have two keys.. not sure what else to try..
[18:02] <CyrusSmith> sokak, that i definatl will
[18:02] <CyrusSmith> exit
[18:02] <sokak> axisys, i had an odd old multimedia keyboard, crawled thru all kind of settings until i've found it
[18:02] <CyrusSmith> lol typed in wrong place
[18:03] <mneptok> axisys: entiende Espanol?
[18:03]  * SuBmUnDo is away: I'm away (gone at 12th Dec, 18:03:21)
[18:03] <mneptok> !away | SuBmUnDo`away
[18:04] <axisys> mneptok: i dont speak spanish
[18:04] <SuBmUnDo`away> sorry
[18:04] <axisys> i want to type the tilde n
[18:04] <mneptok> axisys: ah, OK. i was going to recommend you ask in #ubuntu-es as someone there probably knows.
[18:04] <sokak> axisys, have you found a layout that covers mostly your keyboard?
[18:04] <axisys> but tilde n is the key next to L .. but I have only two keys between L and enter
[18:05] <axisys> sokak: yes
[18:05] <axisys> sokak: i went through total number of keys..
[18:05] <mneptok> axisys: i think USA International (with dead keys) is the layout you need as an Anglophone
[18:06] <axisys> i have some missing.. but those are just signs.. not characters per say.. so no issue
[18:06] <sokak> axisys, one minute, im googling for one thing i saw
[18:06] <BarkingFish> axisys: do you have a seperate key with a tilde on it?
[18:06] <phlak_user> axisys: i have tilde just next to 1 on my laptop --> ~
[18:06] <BarkingFish> If so, you could try to set up a compose key, axisys
[18:06] <axisys> BarkingFish: yes, but that is on the top left corner..
[18:07] <axisys> BarkingFish: right below esc
[18:07] <BarkingFish> Compose + n + tilde would still do the same
[18:07] <axisys> this is a standard hp 6730b laptop
[18:07] <axisys> phlak_user: same here
[18:07] <BarkingFish> ñ
[18:07] <brightspark> axisys, the Mexico>Latin American Keyboard has only 2 keys between L and <enter>
[18:07] <axisys> brightspark: yep.. same here
[18:07] <axisys> BarkingFish: hmm.. which one is the compose key?
[18:07] <BarkingFish> you set it yourself, axisys
[18:07]  * phlak_user seems to have missed the question/problem
[18:08] <axisys> BarkingFish: oh ok
[18:08] <BarkingFish> I can't remember how in Ubuntu, i think it's in your xorg conf
[18:08] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx
[18:08] <brightspark> axisys, would not using that layout then work on your hardware?
[18:08] <sokak> axysis, have a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[18:09] <axisys> sokak: looking
[18:10] <dragomir> hi all, i sudo nautilus and deleted a large file that was sitting in root desktop. i right clicked the file and clicked trash. the file is gone now but its still sitting in the system somewhere because the space (20 minutes later) is still not free'd up. please help. thank you
[18:10] <sokak> dragomir, you emptied trash?
[18:10] <brightspark> dragomir, did you empty the trash?
[18:11] <dragomir> sokak,  brightspark when i go to sudo nautilus it brings up a root file browser
[18:11] <dragomir> im unable to access trash
[18:11] <dragomir> but on my normal desktop the trash is empty
[18:11] <sokak> dragomir, go in the trash folder with a sudo nautilus
[18:11] <wildc4rd> good evening all!
[18:12] <genii-around> But use gksudo and not sudo
[18:12] <sokak> dragomir, next time shift+del it (warning, its not reversible without sweating)
[18:12] <brightspark> dragomir, change the location (ctrl-L) to "trash:///"
[18:12] <axisys> mneptok: yep.. that was it!
[18:12]  * mneptok bows
[18:12]  * SuBmUnDo changes away reason from "I'm away" to "I'm away"
[18:12]  * SuBmUnDo returns (I'm away [9m 1s] => I'm away [18s]) (total away time: 9m 19s)
[18:12] <mneptok> SuBmUnDo: if i tell you about /away messages again, it will be because you are appealing a ban i set on you.
[18:13] <openuser> .who
[18:14] <dragomir> brightspark, its empty
[18:14] <anja> is there a way to upgrade a 32bit xubuntu to 64bit? or atleast the kernel so i can use all ofmy 8 gb?
[18:14] <dragomir> sokak, ill do that next time thanks
[18:14] <ikonia> anja: no
[18:14] <dragomir> i still cant find the file though
[18:14] <anja> ikonia, okay
[18:14]  * SuBmUnDo is away: Auto-away after 2 mins idle (gone at 12th Dec, 18:14:41)
[18:14] <sokak> dragomir, if you can see it in a root nautilus, you can shift+del it
[18:15] <dragomir> sokak, i cant see it anywhere though
[18:16] <sokak> dragomir, just rebbot. The magic should happen. Or try to show hidden files ;)
[18:17] <luis_> hi there, could someone else try to help me with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/898615
[18:18] <Togkolos> hey
[18:18] <OerHeks> luis_, what is your question ?
[18:18] <Togkolos> how can i restore grub? ( i just installed windows and lost grub)
[18:18] <xangua> !grub2 | Togkolos
[18:19] <joshteam> I am trying to install the Java  on Ubuntu - I have the files; just not sure what to run to start the install
[18:19] <joshteam> anyone?
[18:19] <joshteam> or is there an apt-get i can use?
[18:19] <sokak> which files you have?
[18:20] <xangua> joshteam: there is a ppa for oracle java 6
[18:20] <joshteam> jdk-7u1-linux-i586.tar.gz from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[18:20] <brightspark> joshteam; icedtea is in the repositories I believe
[18:20] <improveupon> greetings. this is interesting: oneric crashed with message: ata_id[625]:HD10_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb' (indeed i do not have an sdb)
[18:20] <sokak> and whats inside the tarball?
[18:21] <dragomir> did ubuntu give up on me?
[18:21] <sokak> improveupon, any oddities showing in bios? Which devices sees gparted?
[18:21] <improveupon> followed by could not write bytes: Broken pipe    (this repeated 3x)
[18:21] <Togkolos> xangua: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[18:21] <joshteam> sokak: a ton of files?
[18:21] <kermit> running X apps over 20ms of latency slows down the whole GUI, not just the app.. is there a better awy?
[18:21] <improveupon> sokak: nothing strange
[18:21] <joshteam> lol I am sorry for my lack of clarity here.. but a ton ./bin/* and ./lib/* and ./plugin/*
[18:22] <improveupon> followed by *Stopping save kernel messages (/n)*Starting bluetooth
[18:22] <sokak> joshteam, see the wonders of googleiing http://askubuntu.com/questions/32124/how-do-i-install-java-7-from-the-official-tarballs
[18:22] <brightspark> joshteam, is it the runtime environment or development kit you are trying to install?
[18:23] <joshteam> sokak: thanks, will read up. sorry - I did try googling / just had the wrong search I guess
[18:23] <sokak> joshteam, nvm, i was being politely sarcastic u.u
[18:23] <joshteam> brightspark: I am just trying to get Java JDK installed :-p
[18:23] <improveupon> followed by *PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions... (some other stuff)
[18:23] <Tilawa> rymate1234: You suffered a DDoS attack after 1 min
[18:24] <sokak> improveupon, if kernel sees things that dont belongs, something is going wrong
[18:24] <brightspark> joshteam, openjdk is in the repositories if you want to use apt-get.
[18:25] <improveupon> sokak, what is ata_id[625]:HD10_GET_IDENTITY?
[18:25] <improveupon> is that a function/method? what would be calling that?
[18:26] <improveupon> i'm more interested in finding this out than in preventing further crashes
[18:26] <|Anthony|> ugh
[18:26] <|Anthony|> i had a nick alert, but it got flooded out
[18:26] <marcuy> apache isn't processing php files under my public_html folder, I've commented out the line php_admin_value that has been suggested in many blogs already but php files aren't working, any idea?
[18:26] <|Anthony|> no idea what was said to me
[18:26] <joshteam> thanks brightspark
[18:28] <sokak> improveupon, im not omniscient, so i tried to google it. But not appreciable results are coming out
[18:28] <Nurse_Kun> update: I just renamed my folder and executable for play framework to playf
[18:28] <Nurse_Kun> since I couldn't find a way to remove the play/rec/sox stuff
[18:28] <sokak> improveupon, all i can say is that is hdd related. Try to check disk health and disk wiring first
[18:28] <improveupon> sokak, thank you, no need to google it, i thought you or someone might know
[18:29] <improveupon> sokak, that is now interesting
[18:29] <improveupon> this is an old hard drive... smart health is like 98% though & always has been
[18:29] <joshteam> what's  a good IRC client for Ubuntu?
[18:30] <improveupon> the windows partition never crashes. the linux one does, but not with the same messages at all
[18:30] <improveupon> often after it has been idling
[18:30] <|Anthony|> joshteam, xchat works
[18:30] <xangua> !irc | joshteam
[18:30] <improveupon> and it starts doing it more and more often and i have to reinstall
[18:30] <sokak> improveupon, booting with an earlier kernel leads to different situations?
[18:31] <improveupon> sokak, when i had earlier kernels still, it did not lead to something different, crashed equally often
[18:32] <improveupon> but totally different errors...
[18:32] <axisys> thanks to all.. now I can type ñ
[18:32] <sokak> improveupon, try also a dmesg > foo.txt, then open such foo.txt (it will come out in your home folder) and try to spot any suspicious warning. Googling for them may lead to hints.
[18:32] <improveupon> thank you
[18:32] <sokak> improveupon, watch first the ones nearby the crash times.
[18:33] <improveupon> it is not crashing recently, because i erased all linux & reinstalled
[18:33] <improveupon> when oneric came out
[18:33] <sokak> i see
[18:33] <|Anthony|> sokak, maybe my slow speed for a urandom dd is due to my E3400?
[18:35] <improveupon> sokak, thanks again!
[18:35] <sokak> |Anthony|, honestly no clue about that, but im unsure that dd is so much cpu intensive
[18:35] <Cybertinus> good evening
[18:35] <sokak> welcome Cybertinus
[18:35] <|Anthony|> sokak, it's using 100% of a single core
[18:36] <sokak> |Anthony|, you got me >.< im running sixcore from a long while, i dont look anymore at my cpu usage
[18:36] <|Anthony|> lol
[18:36] <|Anthony|> which cpu?
[18:36] <Cybertinus> I'm running 11.10 on my netbook, and a while back I'm sure I've got wireless on it. But now it lost my wlan card completly. ifconfig -a doesn't show it at all. How do I get my wlan back?
[18:36] <sokak> in cause of doubt, just top in a terminal
[18:37] <sokak> Cybertinus, which chipset is your wireless card?
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  do you have an intel video card?
[18:37] <sokak> |Anthony|, Phenom II x6 1100T black edition
[18:38] <Tech-1> nice
[18:38] <sidney> a KDE system uses much more resources than gnome?
[18:38] <Cybertinus> sokak, don't know from the top of my head. lspci also can't tell me :S. Let me look up the specs on the Asus website, that should tell me
[18:38] <sokak> Tech-1, i partially agree - i had leaks for a long time, and took a while before i noticed them
[18:38] <|Anthony|> MonkeyDust, no... nvidia, but what does that have to do with dd
[18:38] <|Anthony|> sokak, i thought about getting the 1090T
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  not with dd, but with your cpu being eaten
[18:39] <|Anthony|> sokak, you satisfied with the 1100T
[18:39] <OerHeks> |Anthony|, it looks allright to me, dd use 100% .. or don't you want it to go that fast ?
[18:39] <sokak> |Anthony|, just open a terminal and top - you will see what is eating your cpu
[18:39] <marcuy> how can I do to process php in my public_html with apache?
[18:39] <|Anthony|> i know that dd is 100% on a single core
[18:40] <sokak> marcuy, which version of php you installed, and it passed the test.php?
[18:40] <|Anthony|> wondering if the slow e3400 is a bottleneck for dd using urandom and not the hdd
[18:40] <Tech-1> might be
[18:40] <sokak> |Anthony|, what about using /dev/null?
[18:41] <|Anthony|> meh... for that matter i could /dev/zero
[18:41] <|Anthony|> just like the added security of urandom
[18:41] <sokak> |Anthony|, yeah, that may work, also, yes, im satisfied with the 1100 T, i do virtualbox and heavy crunch encodes
[18:41] <|Anthony|> nice
[18:42] <ubuntunoob> .
[18:42] <|Anthony|> sokak, have you compared it to a 980X?
[18:42] <sokak> |Anthony|, you wont see it crawling until you start to swap, no matter what
[18:43] <Cybertinus> sokak, I can't find the specs online :(. do you know another way of finding it inside Ubuntu itself?
[18:43] <Mono> hey
[18:43] <jost> hi
[18:43] <Guest91597> how can i add myself to the group netdev?
[18:43] <sokak> |Anthony|, nope, and im just satisfied with it. Im using it with an Asus M4N98TD EVO, it was cheap
[18:43] <|Anthony|> would lspci -l help Cyber_Akuma
[18:43] <Timewarper> how can i add myself to the group netdev?
[18:43] <Guest58554> im using ssh vhazrati to transfer files but it ask for a password ?
[18:43] <|Anthony|> er Cybertinus
[18:43] <Guest58554> what password?
[18:44] <askreet> Timewarper, From a terminal you can run "usermod -aG netdev <username>".
[18:44] <sokak> |Anthony|, i noticed i had memory leaks when docky started to use 12 Gb of ram :o
[18:44] <askreet> Timewarper, Sorry, that should begin with sudo.  "sudo usermod -aG netdev <username>".
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> Guest58554  please change your name to something readable, use /nick to do so
[18:44] <khameis> hi
[18:44] <lgp171188> Hi, I have a Sony Cybershot camera that records videos in .HTS format. I opened the videos with vlc and was able to play it ok. I tried converting the videos to H264+AAC(mp4) using VLC media player's conversion tool. But in the converted file only the audio is available and video is missing. What could be the issue here? Have I missed installing some codecs?
[18:44] <|Anthony|> sokak, so i guess docky hasn't fixed that yet, huh?
[18:45] <|Anthony|> lol
[18:45] <|Anthony|> sokak, check to see that docky didn't use th -o switch
[18:45] <sokak> |Anthony|, i fixed it my way. A killall docky at .50, and docky started by a script u.u
[18:45] <lgp171188> Sorry the format is .MTS not .HTS as I mentioned.
[18:45] <khameis> #linuxac
[18:45] <jost> I've got a script here which needs to be run with root rights on boot and then keeps running the whole session. I used update-rc to achieve this, but there is one problem: The script does not terminate on shutdown, so the machine hangs on shutdown. How to solve that?
[18:46] <khameis> hi
[18:46] <Timewarper> askreet, can i add user root to that group? cause i try and then type groups and it shows only root group
[18:46] <jutnux> khameis: \o
[18:46] <hipodilski> can you point me to some good tutorial on how to install some linux on an usb drive
[18:47] <sokak> Timewarper, adding root to where it doesnt belong *shivers*
[18:47] <hipodilski> I want to use it to check if one wireless device is working correctly
[18:47] <Timewarper> sokak, why not?
[18:47] <khameis> #linuxac
[18:47] <|Anthony|> hipodilski, what os do you use now?
[18:47] <askreet> Timewarper,  Why do you want to add root to any groups?
[18:47] <sokak> hipodilski, check pendrivelinux.com
[18:47] <im> ok
[18:47] <Timewarper> askreet, i got a problem with wicd and it cant connect to dbus
[18:47] <hipodilski> |Anthony|: Debian
[18:47] <askreet> It's not like root needs permissions.
[18:47] <Timewarper> they say i have to add my user to netdev
[18:47] <askreet> Your user is not root.
[18:47] <sokak> lOl
[18:47] <Timewarper> askreet, i have this problem with root too
[18:48] <Cybertinus> |Anthony|, -l isn't a valid option to lspci :p. I've also tried lshw, but it also doesn't show up there
[18:48] <|Anthony|> hipodilski, unetbootin is a good tool cross-platform
[18:48] <sokak> |Anthony|, i stated pendrivelinux just for ease of use :)
[18:48] <Cybertinus> I'm beginning to fear that the wireless card is physically broken or something
[18:48] <im> im trying to transfer files using ssh vhazrati ,it ask for a password ...i put my user password but it dont work?
[18:49] <sokak> Cybertinus, before losing hope, just google for ubuntu+your hardware name+wireless
[18:49] <hipodilski> |Anthony|: ok I'm installing this tool how to use it?
[18:49] <|Anthony|> Cybertinus, my mistake on the -l
[18:49] <askreet> im,  What is the command you are running, that will help.
[18:50] <urlin2u> hipodilski, if you have a ubuntu install there is app on board startup disc creator
[18:50] <im> sftp vhazrati@192.168.0.107
[18:50] <sokak> hipodilski, pieces of cake :) http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/
[18:50] <sokak> step by step
[18:50] <Cybertinus> sokak, well, it did work. Also on 11.10. Ubuntu 8.04 was a really bad release for my hardware (Asus Eee 901, yes it is old), because it just hadn't WPA2 support. Ever since the first thing I  check with a new release is the wireless :). And it did work ;)
[18:50] <im> sftp vhazrati
[18:50] <|Anthony|> hipodilski, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lAzeoU3y9c
[18:51] <|Anthony|> think that sums it up
[18:51] <sokak> Cybertinus, i have the same little bastard ;o Stuck on Maverick, im lazy :)
[18:51] <|Anthony|> wireless can be a pain in the arse
[18:52] <sokak> well, maverick handled it fine out of the box via jockey GTK - if junk works, i dont touch it uwu
[18:52] <Cybertinus> sokak, ok :). still on 10.10
[18:53] <sokak> ^^
[18:53] <sokak> in case of doubt, ethernet link, and jockey gtk
[18:53] <sokak> can often save the day
[18:53] <marcuy> how can I do to process php in my public_html with apache?
[18:53] <Cybertinus> sokak, ok. Gonna check out jockey GTK
[18:53] <|Anthony|> marcuy, not sure if this is the right chan to ask in
[18:54] <sokak> marcuy, place a file called test.php in your public html folder, containing just <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[18:54] <sokak> does it spew out anything?
[18:54] <|Anthony|> lol give him a sec
[18:54] <|Anthony|> how bout now?
[18:54] <|Anthony|> how bout now?
[18:54] <|Anthony|> how bout now?
[18:54] <FloodBot1> |Anthony|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <|Anthony|> lol
[18:55] <im> how can i transfer files to my other ubuntu computer using file zilla?
[18:55] <sokak> why not share a folder?
[18:55] <|Anthony|> im just setup samba... it'll be easier through nautilus
[18:55] <im> im new at this
[18:56] <im> how?
[18:56] <sokak> Guys, bye everyone, dinner time :)
[18:56] <tp43> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.  You know how in Macintosh systems, the top bar of application is separated from the program and put inside the top bar of panel?  Well, I always thought OS X was stupid because of this feature, and for some reason, Ubuntu went and copied this dumb idea
[18:56] <|Anthony|> l8r sokak
[18:56] <Tech-1> take care sokak
[18:56] <Cybertinus> sokak, Jockey doen't find anything
[18:56] <im> but im sending file to a remote desktop
[18:56] <Cybertinus> ah, he is gone :)
[18:56] <tp43> I would like to disable it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:56] <|Anthony|> im are the terminals all on the same local net/
[18:56] <|Anthony|> ?
[18:56] <tp43> Frig, I wish I never upgraded
[18:57] <im> no
[18:57] <myrmidette> hello people, my nm-applet is dying every 20 minutes, is there anything I can do about it?
[18:57] <meco> What's an app I could use to unpack an iso file?
[18:57] <|Anthony|> tp43, i hate that too
[18:57] <myrmidette> the last thing it says is always 'caught signal 15, shutting down'
[18:57] <tp43> |Anthony|, soooooooo stupid, I used to say to people, that feature on Mac is stupid, and now we are stuck with it too
[18:57] <oCean> meco: you don't unpack iso files, you can mount one though  sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt
[18:58] <meco> ok!
[18:58] <|Anthony|> im than filezilla is a good option
[18:58] <Cybertinus> meh
[18:59] <|Anthony|> im but it has to be set up on both machines
[18:59] <Cybertinus> I give up. I'll just use the LAN from now one
[18:59] <nmaxchat> Question from a totally ignorant user. I need to alter a shell script. When I open the script it opens in read only ode. How do I change it ?
[18:59] <Cybertinus> on*
[18:59] <Senix> Cybertinus: trying to use wireless?
[18:59] <Cybertinus> Senix, yeah
[18:59] <im> ok i can to that now but i dont know were to start
[18:59] <|Anthony|> nmaxchat, use terminal sudo gedit file
[18:59] <jutnux> nmaxchat: gksudo gedit filename
[18:59] <roscar> I'm having trouble with the apt system. I've installed a semi-broken package for my e-reader. It's 32bit and I'm running 64bit. Apt is mad because the dependencies aren't all there but the semi-broken package is working well enough. How do I tell apt to ignore this package and just keep going on about it's business?
[18:59] <Senix> Cybertinus: alright, whats the chipset?
[18:59] <Cybertinus> Senix, the WLAN card did work on 11.10, but now it is just gone :S. lspsi doesn't show it anymore
[19:00] <oCean> |Anthony|: gksudo for graphical utilities
[19:00] <nmaxchat> ant
[19:00] <Cybertinus> Senix, no idea :)
[19:00] <|Anthony|> nmaxchat, sorry gksu
[19:00] <Cybertinus> Senix, I've got an Asus Eee 901
[19:00] <|Anthony|> lol oCean caught myself, but you beat me to it
[19:00] <balachmar> Hi, How can I install Ubuntu on btrfs raid10?
[19:00] <travisHAZE> Only if your ready to rock *jam session*
[19:01] <OerHeks> |Anthony|, gksu is wrong too
[19:01] <Cybertinus> Senix, accourding to Google it should be an Ralink RA2860
[19:01] <Senix> Cybertinus: oh you have a rt2800pci
[19:01] <|Anthony|> ugh
[19:01] <sidney> I used HFS file server in the past it was easy and problem free
[19:01] <|Anthony|> does it have to be gksudo?
[19:01] <Senix> Cybertinus: it should work by default...
[19:01] <Senix> Cybertinus: try the driver center, there should be a driver out there for it.
[19:01] <flippityflip> Is there any way to calibrate a laptop screen on Ubuntu? I'm in the "Color" settings.
[19:01] <Cybertinus> Senix, yeah, it should, since Ubuntu 8.10 or something
[19:02] <Takaros> hey
[19:02] <Takaros> how can i remove a user from a group?
[19:02] <flippityflip> Is there any way to calibrate a laptop screen on Ubuntu? I'm in the "Color" settings and can't seem to click the "Calibrate" button.
[19:02] <sln45> Oneiric with unity2d. Is there a way to disable the menu autohide in the top bar, and just have the menu all the time instead of the window title?
[19:02] <Cybertinus> Senix, well, lspci doesn't have a line for it ;(. Can the driver center find the card then?
[19:02] <Takaros> how can i remove a user from a group?
[19:02] <Senix> Cybertinus: I suggest that you down-grade your Ubuntu install to when it worked, there are a lot of problems with the 11.xx ubuntu versions.
[19:02] <ubuntunoob> .
[19:02] <Senix> Cybertinus: yeah the driver center should be able to find the driver, that is if your card wasn't damaged somehow.
[19:03] <Auriga> Senix, Like Unity?
[19:03] <Senix> Auriga: yes.
[19:03] <Auriga> Senix, ^_^
[19:03] <Senix> Auriga: ^_^
[19:03] <Auriga> Senix, What are you using?
[19:03] <Senix> Cybertinus: I have a lot of experience with wireless and Linux in general.
[19:04] <Takaros> how can i remove a user from a group?
[19:04] <roscar> To rephrase, how do I tell apt that the dependencies it can't find are actually these other packages, not the ones it really wants.
[19:04] <Cybertinus> Senix, hmm, ok. The driver center is something I should find in Dash? I've searched for "driver" but all I found was "aditional drivers", which is for propriatary drivers, not for normal ones
[19:04] <Senix> Auriga: for school purposes (I'm in college, Computer Science major.)
[19:04] <Jacnoc> aw crap adding 'root' to my highlights was a bad idea (my username on the network i run is 'root') because i'm getting highlights out the wazoo on this channel.
[19:04] <Senix> Cybertinus: yes you want aditional drivers.
[19:04] <Auriga> Senix, I mean which distro?
[19:04] <Senix> Auriga: I'm using 11.04 with Gome2.x
[19:05] <Auriga> Senix, Have you used any Gnome3?
[19:05] <Senix> Auriga: I hate Gnome3 and Unity, they both suck.
[19:05] <ubuntunoob> gnome sounds like a troll
[19:05] <Cybertinus> Senix, that window doesn't show any hardware I can install drivers for
[19:05] <Fatalnix> gnomes are related to trolls
[19:05] <Senix> Auriga: Gnome and KDE have been taking turns being the worst desktop.
[19:06] <Auriga> Senix, Agreed...
[19:06] <im> i need help setting up filezilla ,need to transfer from one computer to another that are not on the same network
[19:06] <|Anthony|> the unity frontend has some appeal
[19:06] <Auriga> Senix, Gnome2 is the way forward...
[19:06] <Fatalnix> but anyways, I'm just showing someone how apammy this channel is
[19:06] <|Anthony|> for non-linux people
[19:06] <Senix> Cybertinus: then make sure your wireless card wasn't damaged some how, that is, try ubuntu 10.xx or 11.04, the one that worked with the card. You can use a live CD/DVD.
[19:06] <GaRRu> how can I make the Wicd software not DC automatically?
[19:07] <Cybertinus> Senix, ok. Will try that
[19:07] <nmaxchat> Anthony,jutnux thanks
[19:07] <Senix> Cybertinus: if your card still wont work on a live CD then its been damaged and we can't do much about it.
[19:07] <flippityflip> Does anyone know how to calibrate your screen on Ubuntu?
[19:07] <jutnux> No problem.
[19:07] <tp43> Unity Desktop is the latest gnome desktop?
[19:07] <jutnux> flippityflip: You have to do it in your monitor settings I believe, i.e. using the hard buttons on the screen.
[19:07] <Cybertinus> Senix, heh, no. If it is broken, I will need to replace it. And that can't be done via IRC :p
[19:08] <Cybertinus> Senix, damn, you could get rich if you find a way to actually do that :p
[19:08] <Senix> tp43: no, Unity is completely "Different" to Gnome3
[19:08] <|Anthony|> would be nice though, huh Cybertinus
[19:08] <Senix> Cybertinus: yes i could, please watch your language here.
[19:08] <jumoit> any ideas on how to play a file *.pdf with audio in ubuntu 10.04??
[19:08] <tp43> Senix, oh, Unity is by Ubuntu, so I can remove it and install Gnome instead then eh?
[19:08] <sln45> Well, if no one can answer my first question, does anyone know how to change the order of the unity toolbar shortcuts in unity2d?
[19:08] <Senix> tp43: yes you can
[19:08] <Cybertinus> Senix, ah, sorry about that. Will watch it in the future :)
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> jumoit  .pdf is not an audio extension
[19:08] <|Anthony|> a pdf with audio?
[19:09] <tp43> Senix, you like Unity?
[19:09] <im> i need help setting up filezilla ,need to transfer from one computer to another that are not on the same network
[19:09] <Senix> tp43: no I like the old gnome 2.x
[19:09] <|Anthony|> that'd be a first
[19:09] <sln45> tp43: Unity is cool
[19:09] <Senix> tp43: Gnome3 and Unity both suck, if you want a good desktop i'd go for KDE right now.
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> jumoit  pdf means printable document file, or something similar
[19:09] <tp43> Senix, hmmm, I am on Ubuntu 10, will I get gnome 2 or 3, why don't you like gnome 3?
[19:09] <|Anthony|> i think that the unity version of ubuntu should be a fork
[19:09] <|Anthony|> honestly
[19:09] <sln45> tp43: I can see gnome 2 and unity being a toss up on most computers, but on my netbook it's a beast
[19:10] <benbloom> I'm finding that my computer freezes during shutdown almost every time.how can i diagnose this problem? is there a specific log file i should examine?
[19:10] <tp43> sln45, I don't like the separation between program and the top bar like how it is on Mac, it is better as part of the program window
[19:10] <|Anthony|> for a touch screen netbook == beast
[19:10] <Senix> tp43: its too much like a macintosh, its also really hard to customize, and looks really ugly with the default theme. Just my opinion, I mean no offense to anyone.
[19:10] <sln45> |Anthony|: I think if gnome2 was an optional shell at login it would be fine.
[19:10] <jumoit> MonkeyDust, yeah, i see. i mean, my pdf file has audio embedded inside...but, after opening this file,i can't get audio...
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Senix  i happen to like gnome3, thank you
[19:10] <|Anthony|> that'd work
[19:11] <Senix> MonkeyDust: well like I said, thats just my opinion and i meant no offense.
[19:11] <tp43> Senix, I always thought it was stupid of Mac systems to have that separation, pointless/useless innovation, and now we have that stupid feature too, I'm annoyed
[19:11] <sln45> tp43: It's good screen economy, and it's still reasonably easy to switch applications
[19:11] <tp43> Senix, what's wrong with gnome 3?
[19:11] <oCean> |Anthony|: tp43 sln45 This is not the channel for general discussion, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic and continue
[19:11] <sln45> tp43: My real problem is no more gnome gadgets on the toolbar
[19:11] <roscar> is there anybody here who can help me with my apt problem? Is there somewhere else I can go where somebody might be better able to help?
[19:11] <Senix> tp43: yeah i know how that feels. Theres nothing really wrong with it.
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> roscar  start with asking a question
[19:12] <sln45> Oh, fine. Well, seriously, does anyone know how to rearrange the shortcuts in Unity 2d
[19:12] <jrib> roscar: just ask your real question
[19:12] <tp43> Senix, I will check some videos first, otherwise i am gonna install kde then
[19:12] <Saxy> Hi all, it anybody here how can halp me finding our more about BAZAAR?
[19:12] <jrib> Saxy: what about it?
[19:12] <Senix> tp43: yep, there are lots of opinions about it out there, also, do a google search for some articles on it for more information.
[19:12] <sln45> This is silly. I'll just google it.
[19:12] <sln45> bye yall
[19:13] <roscar> I did. It got trampled by people talking about Unity. I have unmet dependencies for a package I installed. I have no intention of meeting these dependencies but I still want to be able to use apt.
[19:13] <Saxy> I'm trying to get right of how to arrnge all getting the revision number for different trunks and brunches.
[19:13] <jrib> roscar: be more specific, use a pastebin
[19:13] <tp43> Ubuntu people waisted lots of resources making Unity
[19:13] <oCean> tp43: please move on
[19:13] <cpgo> when watching a video using flash player in fullscreen, is there a way to have it not go to screensaver?
[19:13] <tp43> oCean, talk to someone else
[19:13] <roscar> sure
[19:14] <jrib> Saxy: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/en/ also see #bzr
[19:14] <jrib> tp43: please stay on-topic (ubuntu support)
[19:14] <oCean> tp43: I told you not to continue here, you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion
[19:14] <roscar> I'm pretending that I want to reinstall mplayer. http://pastebin.com/8Mgith6P
[19:15] <jrib> roscar: why are you "pretending"?  I don't understand
[19:15] <Saxy> Maybe I explained wrong. I like to setup my own system getting the major and minjor numbers  vor the software working for me.
[19:16] <Kingsy> how do you install the mjpg codec on ubuntu?
[19:16] <Saxy> I studied the whole manual already but didn't see / find an explaination / example for this.
[19:16] <jrib> Saxy: try the #bzr channel
[19:16] <roscar> it doesn't matter what I'm trying to install. The point is that no matter what it is, the kobo-desktop dependencies aren't being met so I can't do anything.
[19:17] <jrib> roscar: where is kobo-desktop from?  Why don't you install the dependencies?
[19:17] <Saxy> Will do so, thanks !
[19:17] <tp43> Unity loads slow
[19:17] <jumoit> MonkeyDust: please check out here http://acrobatusers.com/forum/rich-mediaflash/audio-playback-acrobat-reader-101
[19:17] <|Anthony|> roscar, try building from source
[19:17] <roscar> I can't meet these dependencies because I'm running 64bit, and I don't care to because the software works.
[19:17] <jrib> roscar: where is kobo-desktop from?
[19:17] <roscar> from Kobo the company.
[19:17] <|Anthony|> roscar, and when source tells you you have unmet dependencies then i suppose you'll know what to do
[19:18] <Arizona_Bay> hi
[19:18] <Arizona_Bay> how can i stream from ubuntu?
[19:18] <roscar> It's a crappy unsupported deb for my ereader.
[19:18] <Arizona_Bay> live stream
[19:18] <LABcrab> Hello!  Is Ubuntu on a flash drive supposed to be slow, or is that just for the setup?  Also, will it damage my flash drive?
[19:18] <jrib> roscar: you should contact them about it.  To do what you ask, you have two options: 1) rebuild the source package (this is different than simply building the software from source; see ubottu) or 2) use equivs (not recommended)
[19:18] <jrib> !source > roscar
[19:18] <LABcrab> Arizona_Bay: Stream what, from where, to where?
[19:18] <LABcrab> Arizona_Bay: As in LiveStream.com website?
[19:18] <Arizona_Bay> LABcrab from my computer to livestream exactly
[19:18] <Arizona_Bay> yes
[19:19] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, instKKUBF RI IBW
[19:19] <Gentoo64> installing to one?
[19:19] <Gentoo64> sorry abotu that ^
[19:19] <roscar> rebuilding is impossible. It's not open. Can you elaborate on equivs?
[19:19] <Kingsy> ok guys I am getting an error with guvcview it crashes with this output --> [mp2 @ 0x3198800] codec type or id mismatches    could not open codec..
[19:19] <Kingsy> which codec do I need?
[19:19] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Yes, it is saying "Restoring previously installed packages" and it is slow.
[19:19] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, flash drivbe will be slow
[19:20] <jrib> roscar: apt-cache show equivs   but you should contact kobo.  equivs is a very kludgy solution to your problem
[19:20] <LABcrab> Arizona_Bay: i use the Express applet, built-in webcam works, proprietary Flash required.
[19:20] <Gentoo64> million times slower than hard drive
[19:20] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Compared to CD?
[19:20] <cpgo> I cant believe this bug still exists 5 years later...
[19:20] <Gentoo64> no if youre using usb for livecd then itll be ok
[19:20] <Arizona_Bay> LabCrab is that for camera live streaming?
[19:20] <roscar> jrib, oh I know. Cludgy is what I'm looking for
[19:20] <LABcrab> Arizona_Bay: Yes.
[19:20] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: So why do people advertise it like it's a good replacement for hard drive?
[19:20] <Arizona_Bay> what about just streaming what im doing on  my desktop?
[19:21] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, they dont. your probably on about ssds
[19:21] <roscar> jrib, the deb is unsupported and for 32bit. that it runs at all is a blessing.
[19:21] <Gentoo64> which are miles faster
[19:21] <LABcrab> Arizona_Bay: Not sure.  Maybe there's a plugin to create a web cam using your desktop?
[19:21] <th^2> should Citrix work on Ubuntu?
[19:21] <Arizona_Bay> hmm alright thanks ill check it ou !
[19:21] <LABcrab> Arizona_Bay: There's also good ol' VNC.
[19:21] <Arizona_Bay> VNC?
[19:22] <Arizona_Bay> ill google it :P
[19:22] <tp43> my cdrom isn't working, and I want to remove a windows partition to expand my ubuntu partition, is it safe to run gparted while booted in?
[19:22] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Yeah, but some pople are like all crazy about using Ubuntu from a USB.  They say it is good like a live CD.  The way i have it right now, it's installing Ubuntu on the USB like if it was a hard drive.
[19:22] <Gentoo64> tp43, you can expand while using root
[19:23] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, people talk abot using live usb instead of cd,
[19:23] <tp43> you can expand the partition while its mounted?
[19:23] <khameis> hi
[19:23] <roscar> ok, equivs sounds great, is there a way to install it with out running apt-get -f install first? Can I get apt to ignore this problem?
[19:23] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, liveusb a lot of people dont have cd drives eg netbooks, and usb can load faster than waiting for cd to spin up etc
[19:23] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Well, i need to create accounts on there that stay all the time, as opposed to those that delete a lot.
[19:23] <Gentoo64> but i wouldnt personally install on a usb
[19:23] <Pici> tp43: no. You cannot expand a partition while it is mounted.
[19:23] <oCean> th^2: the ICA cllient? yes, that should work
[19:23] <khameis> هل يوجد عرب نسفيد من خبرتهم
[19:24] <LABcrab> !ar > khameis
[19:24] <tp43> Pici, didn't think so, you need to boot into gparted, thing is my cdrom isn't working
[19:24] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, can you not use a hard drive?
[19:24] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: No, i want a Windows refund from Toshiba.
[19:24] <th^2> oCean, okay. it doesnt launch from chromium
[19:24] <Pici> !sa | khameis
[19:25] <gregj> anyone could help me with this please:
[19:25] <gregj> http://pastebin.com/9Uk7GYV9
[19:25] <khameis> ok thanks
[19:25] <Pici> tp43: You  can either download the Ubuntu live usb thing from our website or investigate whether the grub boot disk has a usb variant.
[19:25] <tp43> if I remove unity and install gnome 3 then upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, will it upgrade gnome or install unity again?  Maybe i should upgrade then switch to gnome 3
[19:25] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: There should be a message in the Ubuntu setup warning users about this.
[19:25] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, warning about what?
[19:26] <oCean> th^2: you're on 64 bit ubuntu? I remember running : ldd /usr/lib/ICAclient/wfcmgr and libXm.so missing
[19:26] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Installing Ubuntu to an USB.
[19:26] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, why a warning? Because it's slow?
[19:26] <th^2> oCean, no 32 bit
[19:26] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Because it's apparently ineffective compared to a hard drive.
[19:26] <tp43> Pici, my laptop needs to be able to boot usb, then I have to figure out how to make a bootable usb
[19:26] <oCean> th^2: still, have you tried starting the client by hand (ie not in chromium) Running the ldd command might show if you have missing libraries
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Tp: you will upgrade to gnome3 ane reinstall unity due to the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[19:27] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, well I don;t think they should need a warning. For a lot of people it's pretty obvious, as flash drives are designed for data like pics vids etc not to run OS from
[19:27] <tp43> ActionParsnip, thx
[19:27] <Gentoo64> but nothing stopping you
[19:27] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: That's not what i heard.  Also, what about Windows 8 USB drives?
[19:28] <Gentoo64> idk
[19:28] <roscar> I guess I'll just try reinstalling kobo later. Thanks for the help jrib
[19:28] <LABcrab> How much usage can a USB drive suffer before it gets damaged?
[19:28] <freaky[t]> hi all i have a problem upgrading ubuntu to 11.10: http://pastie.org/3006720 <-- what can I do - I mean, how do I even find out what packages or package is causing the conflict?
[19:28] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, i suppose usb3 would be faster, as its mostly the slow sequential read and writes from most flash drives
[19:28] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, tbh most last years
[19:28] <urlin2u> tp43, what ever you do make an image of the 11.04 in case there is a problem, clonezilla works very nicely.
[19:28] <roscar> I might pester this channel a bit more depending on how my equivs experience goes.\
[19:28] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Does running Ubuntu damage the hard drive?
[19:29] <tp43> these: /dev/shm, /var/run, and /var/lock never use more than 100mb as far as I can tell, can I change the alot they get of 700mb to 200mb?
[19:29] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, none of mine have ever messed  up. ive still got a 1gb from 7 yeats ago workign fine
[19:29] <gregj> any ideas why it says I'm running out of disk space, despite me having over 1GB free? http://pastebin.com/9Uk7GYV9
[19:29] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, no it doesnt damage it... why would it?
[19:29] <jost> how to make a script run on boot and stop on shutdown? The script contains an endless loop, so it never stops by itself.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: what are you running to generate the error?
[19:29] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: From having to write a lot.
[19:29] <gregj> jost: read about sysV
[19:29] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, you mean damage the flash drive?
[19:29] <LABcrab> Mmhmm.
[19:30] <freaky[t]> ActionParsnip: im using the ubuntu upgrade tool. it automatically starts when the GUI loaded up.
[19:30] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, well it'd wear it down faster than if you was just storing data on it. but they should still last years
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> LABcrab: if you put a lot of temp stuff on a platter based drive or tempfs, it will last a good while
[19:30] <urlin2u> gregj, is that a usb or the HD, never the less that is to small of buffer for not overfilling it.
[19:31] <freaky[t]> ActionParsnip:  wait I think i can fix the problem. simply install the held package kdevelop :D
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: HD
[19:31] <LABcrab> It is still faster than a floppy disc?
[19:31] <LABcrab> *disk
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: I have plenty of space as you can see there
[19:31] <freaky[t]> ActionParsnip: it's installing
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: but are you running a command in terminal?
[19:31] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, also bear in mind as I said theyren ot designed for continuous read / writes
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: its a netbook with 8GB SSD
[19:31] <Gentoo64> they dont have special controllers like ssds have
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: nice :-)
[19:31] <urlin2u> gregj, the genral advice is only 70% fullyour way beyond that.
[19:31] <Gentoo64> just cheap plain memory
[19:31] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: SSDs cost a lot.
[19:31] <Gentoo64> yeah ofc, for a reason
[19:31] <Pici> !ot
[19:31] <gregj> urlin2u: yeah, but i still have plenty enough
[19:32] <urlin2u> gregj, do you its not working?
[19:32] <th^2> oCean, how i can launch ctrix by hand?
[19:32] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, ofc its faster than a floppy disk what are you talking about lol
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: what you mean
[19:32] <Pici> Gentoo64, LABcrab: Can we move the hardware discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: yes, but I can't imagine that it magically used 1.4GB in 2s
[19:32] <urlin2u> gregj, exspand the partition if you can.
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: dd can't fill it that quick
[19:32] <Gentoo64> Pici, sorry hes on about installing ubuntu to flash drive, so i thought it waso n topic
[19:32] <gregj> urlin2u: it is already filling out the whole disk
[19:33] <gregj> urlin2u: that's an 8GB disk, with one partitino
[19:33] <urlin2u> gregj, and tha is your problem.
[19:33] <Pici> Gentoo64: It was, but you've both sort of diregressed :)
[19:33] <wunschname> urban_grandier
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> gregj: try: sudo apt-get clean   if its a
[19:33] <Gentoo64> Pici, yeah soz
[19:33] <gregj> ActionParsnip: I did
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> An OS partition
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Cool
[19:33] <LABcrab> But if i create a live CD that burns to my USB, i can't create individual accounts on that live USB.
[19:33] <gregj> ActionParsnip: that doesn't help either
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> gregj: re
[19:33] <gregj> ActionParsnip: it just makes it re-download the deb
[19:33] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, if its live, then itl be run from ram
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Removed old kernels?
[19:34] <oCean> th^2: hm, doing this from memory, i think there is a wfica.sh, and a wfmgr (or something) both should be able to start from the cmdline
[19:34] <gregj> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure if I should touch them
[19:35] <gregj> ActionParsnip: this happens automatically over and over again whenever there's an update.
[19:35] <LABcrab> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ and http://www.linutop.com/
[19:35] <th^2> oCean, no i cannot find anything by that name
[19:36] <khameis> #linuxac
[19:36] <gregj> ActionParsnip: and I can't uninstall anything, it complains about that upgrade being broken now
[19:36] <oCean> th^2: ok, I'm sorry I have this no longer installed. But I'm sure since I used it with previous employer (so on ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04)
[19:36] <joms> hi
[19:37] <th^2> oCean, okay. thx
[19:37] <AndChat-> gregj: hmm. Can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install      please
[19:37] <gregj> AndChat-: sure
[19:37] <oCean> th^2: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[19:37] <th^2> these are the little things that makes windows look very tempting :D
[19:38] <jakub1236> hi
[19:38] <oCean> th^2: no no
[19:38] <oCean> :)
[19:38] <th^2> oCean, :D
[19:38] <urlin2u> th^2, virus, malware and all eh. :D
[19:38] <gregj> AndChat-: http://pastebin.com/icMF1TkA
[19:39] <th^2> ActionParsnip, actually not that one. dont know why but my desktop just started working by installing .deb
[19:39] <AndChat-> th^2: as the song goes: Every OS sucks (and blows)
[19:39] <th^2> oCean, i mean
[19:39] <joms> hi
[19:40] <th^2> urlin2u, thats true. my desktop ubuntu install has come a long way from 6.04
[19:40] <th^2> no windows install has ever survived that long
[19:40] <AndChat-> gregj: 'no space left on device' is a massive clue
[19:41] <gregj> AndChat-: http://pastebin.com/HBEStk7N
[19:41] <gregj> AndChat-: and that's even bigger one ;)
[19:42] <AndChat-> gregj: can you pastebin the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:42] <roscar> http://pastebin.com/yPW1NYDu I'm hoping to get help using equivs to solve this problem Notably lines 26 and 27. My main issue is not being sure how to use equivs properly. jrib, your helpful self still around?
[19:42] <gregj> AndChat-: I think I cracked it
[19:42] <tp43> How do you see the dashboard?
[19:42] <gregj> AndChat-: there was plenty of old headers in /usr/src from previous version of ubuntu and 2.6.x kernels
[19:43] <AndChat-> gregj: what was the hammer?
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: its amazing that dpkg didn't remove those
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: but still, I have tons of space
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: so wtf
[19:43] <AndChat-> gregj: yes, remove old kernels and they go bye bye
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: yum
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: yup
[19:43] <gregj> AndChat-: ok, thanks nonetheless :)
[19:44] <jacobin> hello
[19:45] <Gentoo64> jacobin, hi
[19:45] <AndChat-> Hi jacobin
[19:45] <jacobin> howa are you all
[19:45] <Gentoo64> ok you
[19:45] <AndChat-> Tired
[19:46] <Gentoo64> AndChat-, you actionparsnip?
[19:46] <ubuntunoob> hey can i get  "ubuntu cloak" ?
[19:46] <Gentoo64> ubuntunoob, yes#freenode
[19:46] <Gentoo64> ask in there
[19:46] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: What about a USB OS like Jolicloud or etc.?
[19:46] <ubuntunoob> ok
[19:46] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, no idea
[19:46] <Gentoo64> prob the same speed, just different os
[19:46] <Gentoo64> and data is stored in cloud in joli afaik, but i dont kniow anything about it
[19:47] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: yeah. Blackspot kicks me off and my alternate nick is AndChat as thats the client I'm using
[19:47] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[19:47] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, why does it have to be on flash drive btw?
[19:48] <AndChat-> LABcrab: a sweet OS to boot off USB is xpud. Jolicloud is ubuntu based but has its own support channels
[19:48] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: To leave my Toshiba HDD intact so that i can still get a Windows refund.
[19:48] <LABcrab> AndChat-: So it will be as slow as Ubuntu?
[19:48] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, best one to use would be something light that dont require a load of disk like gnome 3 does
[19:48] <AndChat-> LABcrab: jolicloud will be, yes
[19:49] <LABcrab> Gentoo64 and AndChat-: What about Jolicloud live?
[19:49] <kinky> just use knoppix or grml :p
[19:49] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, no idea.
[19:49] <th^2> fuck citrix on ubuntu. im using my iPad now!
[19:49] <guntbert> !language | th^2
[19:49] <oCean> th^2: please control the language
[19:49] <Gentoo64> th^2, how are they related?
[19:50] <webnet> !language | th^2
[19:50] <AndChat-> LABcrab: same thing. Just runs in ram and pulls thing from the storage when needed. You'd have to ask in the jolicloud channel for real answers
[19:51] <th^2> yes yes im sorry :D
[19:51] <oCean> webnet: that was a little redundant :(
[19:51] <th^2> this has to be an american channel?
[19:51] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, what do you want from the os? just general use?
[19:51] <LABcrab> Can i use the Ubuntu USB creator for ISO files?
[19:51] <Gentoo64> i didnt know you could get a windows refund btw
[19:51] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Quick web browsing.
[19:51] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, use chromium os
[19:51] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:51] <webnet> haha. i saw that. sorry. i was typing slow. and by the time i typed it like 18 people already said it. sorry oCean :)
[19:51] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Toshiba's making it a pita, Acer makes it a walk in the park.
[19:52] <oCean> webnet: nvm, no problem
[19:52] <Gentoo64> LABcrab, http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/
[19:52] <Gentoo64> thatll be fine on usb
[19:52] <Gentoo64> and what you need
[19:53] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Hmm.
[19:53] <Gentoo64> well, youd get quick web browsing, nothign more, and it has usb builds there
[19:53] <Gentoo64> and itd be fast on usb i assume
[19:53] <Gentoo64> idk google it
[19:54] <AndChat-> LABcrab: use unetbootin as an alternative. You could also try tinycore, puppy, slitaz or xpud. All are super light
[19:55] <th^2> should locate find everything?
[19:55] <AndChat-> th^2: after you run: sudo update-db    yes
[19:55] <pim_> Hi, why does ubuntu require I reboot after updating?
[19:56] <Gentoo64> pim_, what update? kernel?
[19:56] <pim_> no not kernel
[19:56] <Gentoo64> or graphics drivers something like that
[19:56] <AndChat-> pim_: its to boot a new kernel or load a new proprietory dri
[19:56] <pim_> It can unload and load the kernel modules?
[19:56] <AndChat-> pim_: its not really required
[19:56] <benbloom> pim_: in the latest update there are very low level modifications that require a full restart to implement
[19:57] <pim_> benbloom in the latest kernel?
[19:57] <freeman_> Всем привет)
[19:57] <Gentoo64> pim_, reboot is normally easier. theres ways round it but normally just reboot
[19:57] <th^2> AndChat-, i sudo whaat?
[19:57] <red_> hi i cant get my webcam to work in flash
[19:57] <LABcrab> AndChat-: There's so many choices.
[19:57] <Gentoo64> th^2, that command should update the filel ist
[19:57] <benbloom> i guess your question was a bit unclear pim_
[19:57] <Gentoo64> to use locate with
[19:57] <freeman_> Кто нибудь русский язык знает?)
[19:57] <Gentoo64> !ru
[19:57] <Gentoo64> :s
[19:58] <Gentoo64> am i right?
[19:58] <sylwae> hi all
[19:58] <freeman_> привет)
[19:58] <th^2> Gentoo64, update-db?
[19:58] <pim_> benbloom that is not unlikely
[19:58] <Gentoo64> th^2, yeah i think so
[19:58] <freeman_> У кого операционая система Ylmf OS 3.0?
[19:58] <red_> hi ny one help with flash please?
[19:59] <benbloom> double negatives only make things more complicated
[19:59] <th^2> Gentoo64, well my setup doesnt know that command
[19:59] <AndChat-> th^2: locate uses a database of files, if they have changed then the database is inaccurate, the command updates the database so the new files and removed files are appreciated
[19:59] <Gentoo64> th^2, you could use find command
[19:59] <sylwae> is it normal to have better read performance on SSD when my laptop i only on battery ?
[19:59] <th^2> Gentoo64, is it the same as locate?
[19:59] <AndChat-> freeman_: ylmf is not supported here
[19:59] <Gentoo64> th^2, find / -name blah
[19:59] <Gentoo64> will search root for exact name
[20:00] <drij> hi! can someone hopefully help? in Ubuntu 11.10 I'm trying to see pidgin icon in the system tray. but it won't appear even after setting systray-whitelist to ['all'] and restarting ... :(
[20:00] <Gentoo64> th^2, gnome should have some search gui tool btw
[20:00] <benbloom> I find the usb-creator app to be sluggish and buggy. is there any reason not to use partition editor to set up usb partitions and then rsync the files from mounted iso to the drive?
[20:00] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: add sudo and it supresses access denied messages
[20:00] <Gentoo64> yeah
[20:00] <Gentoo64> sorry im so used to running stuff as root lol
[20:01] <Gentoo64> forget to mention sudo
[20:01] <th^2> Gentoo64, i dont want GUI :S have always used locate but this is a new install
[20:01] <AndChat-> benbloom: it adds a bootloader to the device. Have you tried unetbootin?
[20:01] <Gentoo64> th^2, well both commands will find stuff
[20:01] <truefx> how to join lazarus channel ?
[20:01] <im> ok
[20:01] <im> thanks
[20:01] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: i hope not web browsers ;-)
[20:02] <Gentoo64> truefx, if it's called #lazaurus then /join #lazaurus
[20:02] <urlin2u> benbloom, you need as bootloader, I heard that the latest ubuntu iso can be dd and booted never tried though. There is unetbootin and other usb loaders.
[20:02] <Gentoo64> AndChat-, ofc not lol only stuff that _needs_ it
[20:02] <urlin2u> as=a
[20:02] <Gentoo64> chromium refuses to run as root anyway :)
[20:02] <benbloom> nope AndChat- i will look at unetbootin. is there no way to manually add  bootloader?
[20:03] <AndChat-> benbloom: sure but if an app can do it for you, why pull your hair trying to get it right
[20:03] <urlin2u> benbloom, you don't need to there are very good loaders check out multisystm at pendrivelinux as well.
[20:04] <benbloom> k. thanks for the leads. I'm looking at those three
[20:04] <urlin2u> benbloom, this one lets you load multiple iso's. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[20:06] <skegeek> I just did a fresh install a day ago and I noticed if it's unattended for a while, the screen turns off and it refuses to come back. I have to push the power button to reboot. Is this a known issue?
[20:06] <benbloom> is it me or is usb-creator just a bad app? why is it the default canonical flashdrive maker?
[20:07] <Gentoo64> skegeek, ive heard of it
[20:07] <Gentoo64> dno the fix
[20:07] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone get kernel panic from the latest kernel 3.0.0-14?  i never had any on 11.10 but within 1 day got one
[20:07] <Gentoo64> AndroidLoverInSF, do you use any custom drivers?
[20:07] <AndChat-> benbloom: usb-creator is in a default install but doesn't mean much
[20:07] <AndroidLoverInSF> not really unless its graphics driver
[20:08] <Gentoo64> AndroidLoverInSF, probably better to post on forum
[20:08] <Gentoo64> or google on it
[20:08] <AndroidLoverInSF> ok i'll try
[20:08] <skegeek> I just changed the power setting, see if that helps.
[20:08] <LINCE10> CIAO
[20:08] <AndChat-> AndroidLoverInSF: which gpu are you using
[20:09] <LINCE10> !LIST
[20:09] <Gentoo64> !list | LINCE10
[20:09] <urlin2u> benbloom, never liked it myself.
[20:09] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: please don't tell people to google, the channel may as well not exist if we just say that to everyone
[20:10] <Gentoo64> yeah ofc, but kernel panic can be specific
[20:10] <benbloom> I keep finding that many of the (k)ubuntu default apps are much less well constructed than many alternatives. makes me wonder y they are chosen above others?
[20:11] <Gentoo64> benbloom, some people like them. i think all the kde stuff is tacky
[20:12] <Gentoo64> a lot of them are kde de bundled though to be more complete de
[20:13] <AndChat-> benbloom: you can't please them all. I use minimal now and build up rather than wasting time gutting the apps i simply don't use or prefer an alternative to
[20:13] <benbloom> i prefer the kdm to gdm though, and unity nearly caused me to have a brain hemmorage
[20:13] <RokcStar> hey
[20:13] <AndChat-> Hi RokcStar
[20:13] <AndroidLoverInSF> AndChat: NVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory GPU
[20:14] <benbloom> yes AndChat- i'm headed in that direction now. i've got enough of a handle on the linux concept. only thing is apt has totally spoiled me
[20:14] <LABcrab> An unformatted drive = one with no partitions?  i miss them floppy days.  :'(
[20:14] <AndroidLoverInSF> i think kde apps are more functional than gnome apps or at least gnome apps in unity. but kde is less stable than gnome or unity
[20:14] <AndChat-> AndroidLoverInSF: boot to an ok kernel, remove proprietary driver, boot to newest kernel and then reinstall the driver
[20:15] <Gentoo64> LABcrab: you miss floppys? lol
[20:15] <Gentoo64> i couldnt stand them when they were even the norm
[20:15] <AndChat-> I find kde to be fine but gvfs is awesome
[20:15] <RokcStar> how are kde apps more functional but less stable?
[20:15] <AndroidLoverInSF> thanks for the tip
[20:15] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Not so much floppies, but the memories from floppy days, and just how things were less complicated back then.  i was actually one of the first at my school to use a flash drive, when it was 128 MB.
[20:16] <LABcrab> For fifty bucks.
[20:16] <benbloom> lol Gentoo64, remember that aweful sound they'd make? like a sad fart
[20:16] <balachmar> Hi, has anybody here tried to install ubuntu on btrfs raid10?
[20:16] <LABcrab> benbloom: LOL.
[20:16] <chz|bacon> hey guys anyone here willing to lend me a hand with some mdadm questions?
[20:16] <AndChat-> I have a PATA Zip drive in a box. 250mb baby, yeah!
[20:16] <Gentoo64> benbloom: hmm i dont remember the sound of them actually. rememver it being weird though
[20:17] <Kurdistan> hey. I justed switched from distro x to ubuntu. I saved my home directery. now I can not make any changes does folder/file
[20:17] <Gentoo64> AndChat-: heh i forgot about zip drives
[20:17] <AndroidLoverInSF> for instance, in firefox, in unity you cant right click on bookmark menu and open in a new tab. but in kde firefox can. and kde plasma desktop sometimes gets stuck when i click on the 'start menu'
[20:17] <Kurdistan> only read/watch/listen but can not delete etc
[20:17] <jrib> Kurdistan: you need to make sure your user owns the files in his home
[20:17] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: i remember reading about ZIP drives like they were the real deal!  AndChat-.
[20:17] <jellow> can I run a jail inside a jail?
[20:17] <Kurdistan> jrib thats the problem
[20:17] <Kurdistan> how can I make myself the owner?
[20:17] <jrib> Kurdistan: boot into recovery mode and use chown.  Do you know how?
[20:18] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[20:18] <jrib> !permissions > Kurdistan
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: sudo chown you /home/user
[20:18] <Gentoo64> should sort it
[20:18] <RokcStar> oh
[20:18] <Pici> LABcrab, Gentoo64: Please, this channel is already busy enough, #ubuntu-offtopic exists for this sort of thing.
[20:18] <Kurdistan> jrib I am reading that.
[20:18] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: LABcrab: and jazz drives :-)
[20:18] <Kurdistan> Gentoo64, is that all?
[20:18] <jrib> Kurdistan: it should be recursive (like AndChat- suggested)
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: try it..
[20:18] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: ohh chown -R
[20:18] <jrib> Kurdistan: Gentoo64's suggestion will likely not be enough
[20:18] <Gentoo64> sorry!
[20:18] <Gentoo64> yeah chown -R
[20:19] <RokcStar> i switched from gnome ubuntu to kubuntu and i've noticed that menus load much quicker
[20:19]  * AndChat- wishes he was a parsnip
[20:19] <Kurdistan> jrib, that you gave me was long.
[20:19] <jrib> Kurdistan: what?
[20:19] <Kurdistan> what exactly should I focus reading?
[20:19] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: what do youj mean
[20:19] <RokcStar> the overall feel of kubuntu is more rapid than gnome on ubuntu
[20:20] <AndChat-> RokcStar: afaik, a lot of the libs are preloaded. I could be wrong
[20:20] <cablop> i wonder how safe is home folder encryption on ubuntu
[20:20] <MahaVishnu> RokcStar, and fluxbox on ubuntu is even faster than that.
[20:20] <Gentoo64> i think ubuntu uses some sort of prelink by default
[20:20] <jrib> Kurdistan: you should understand all of it, it is not long.  Focus on the part about ownership...
[20:20] <RokcStar> i've never tried flux
[20:20] <MahaVishnu> RokcStar, its the best WM imho
[20:20] <Gentoo64> and openbox is faster than fluxbox. de wars
[20:20] <Gentoo64> !fight
[20:20] <askreet> dwm ftw.
[20:20] <Kurdistan> jrib, I am running xubuntu.
[20:20] <AndChat-> MahaVishnu: and awesome is flwm is faster still :-)
[20:20] <askreet> I use dwm at work anyway..
[20:20] <jrib> Kurdistan: that's fine
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> fluxbox ftw. ;-P
[20:21] <RokcStar> wait i meant Xubuntu...not kubuntu. my bad
[20:21] <Gentoo64> RokcStar: xubuntu will be faster then gnome yeah
[20:21] <cablop> i am using gnome3... with a dirty trick... Avant Window Navigator to replace the dock
[20:21] <cablop> :P
[20:21] <cablop> it works
[20:21] <AndChat-> *box ftw
[20:21] <LABcrab> Pici: my question was simply: unformatted = no partitions?
[20:21] <Gentoo64> xbox?
[20:21] <oCean> Enough. If you want a usability discussion, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> cd /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:21] <MahaVishnu> lol!
[20:21] <LABcrab> Gentoo64: Not by much.
[20:21] <askreet> ...lol
[20:21] <askreet> i've done that before. :(
[20:22] <RokcStar> does anyone even bother with theme applications like emerald and other things that just totally make things sluggish?
[20:22] <MahaVishnu> wrong window ;-(
[20:22] <Pici> LABcrab: You were talking about the noises that floppy drives make
[20:22] <AndChat-> Gentoo64: flux|open|black
[20:22] <LABcrab> Pici: No, someone else brought that up, and i added a few comments here and there.
[20:22] <Kurdistan> jrib, I read it. can I change ownship for folder and all the files in it?
[20:22] <oCean> RokcStar: do you have an actual tech support question? This channel is not for general discussion
[20:22] <Gentoo64> Kurdistan: thats what the -R does
[20:23] <Kurdistan> I am lost. is there not any easy way?
[20:23] <AndChat-> LABcrab: there are vids online of people making music with floppy read/writes. There's a really good Imperial March one
[20:23] <jrib> Kurdistan: one command is the easy way
[20:23] <oCean> AndChat-: come on!
[20:23] <Pici> AndChat-: That goes for you too, offtopic chatter belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, not #ubuntu
[20:23] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: what is easier than one command?
[20:24] <bashnerd1> Kurdistan: man chown ;)
[20:24] <LABcrab> AndChat-: i bet.  i'm getting JoliCloud.  Just wondering: unformatted = unpartitioned?
[20:24] <AndChat-> Pici: oCean: understood
[20:24] <LABcrab> What is the difference between "unformatted", "formatted" and "IBM formatted"?
[20:24] <Kurdistan> gksudo thunar worked
[20:24] <Kurdistan> but will it work if I end it?
[20:25] <MahaVishnu> Kurdistan, you are being very daft right now, you have been told multiple times how to fix your problem (IN THE EASIEST WAY TOO)
[20:25] <LABcrab> :'(
[20:25] <Kurdistan> MahaVishnu, and that is reading a pages?
[20:25] <Kurdistan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[20:25] <MahaVishnu> Kurdistan, no sir its using the command you were given.
[20:25] <Kurdistan> read yourself and tell me how to fix it
[20:26] <MahaVishnu> they gave you that link, so you can learn about the operating system you are using
[20:26] <Pici> Unknow: Please take a nick and stick with it.
[20:26] <MahaVishnu> Kurdistan, I know how to fix it, I knew before they told you. but guess what? I saw them tell you also.
[20:26] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: well yeah, you are running the file browser as root so permissions aren't an issue. Your user will still not be able to save data until it is the owner of its own $HOME
[20:26] <jrib> Kurdistan: two people gave you the command, the page is so you understand what you are doing if you care to
[20:27] <MahaVishnu> some people just don't care to listen.
[20:28] <joshteam> hmmm anyone know the apt-get package for java jdk?
[20:28] <Kurdistan> jrib, you said one of the command line was not enough
[20:28] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: to make the OS work, you will need to run EVERYTHING with gksudo which I am very sure is longer and harder (sic) than one command
[20:28] <jrib> Kurdistan: and said the other was.
[20:28] <Barbariandude> joshteam, if I remember right the package is sun-java6-jdk
[20:28] <Kurdistan> jrib, I most missed it.
[20:28] <MahaVishnu> o_O
[20:28] <Kurdistan> which was the other one?
[20:28] <joshteam> Barbariandude:  nope :(
[20:29] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: once more. The command you need is:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[20:29] <jrib> Kurdistan: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[20:29] <Barbariandude> joshteam, lemme check my packages, 2 secs
[20:29] <joshteam> thanks Barbariandude
[20:29] <Kurdistan> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME <<---- jrib ?
[20:29] <MahaVishnu> joshteam, just type sudo apt-cache search jdk in a terminal
[20:29] <jrib> Kurdistan: sure, as your user
[20:29] <jellow> Hi Im in a jail without root , I want to run Screen but it needs /dev/pts , How can I tell it to use somethign else?
[20:30] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: run that and you will have significantly fewer problems
[20:30] <MahaVishnu> joshteam, if you learn to fish for your self you, you will catch many fat salmon :-)
[20:30] <Kurdistan> jrib, instead of user I should choose my username?
[20:30] <jrib> Kurdistan: $USER will automatically be replaced with your username
[20:30] <Kurdistan> jrib, thx.
[20:30] <joshteam> MahaVishnu: good call; found it and installing thanks a ton
[20:30] <MahaVishnu> joshteam, no problemo ;-)
[20:30] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: $USER and $HOME will change for you
[20:31] <Kurdistan> chown: kan inte komma åt "/home/myusername/.gvfs": Åtkomst nekas
[20:31] <AndChat-> Dead handy variables
[20:31] <jrib> Kurdistan: that's fine
[20:31] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, it did not work.
[20:31] <Barbariandude> joshteam, according to my apt-cache, it's what I said it was
[20:31] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: it did, that will happen
[20:31] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, okey. I will see.
[20:32] <benbloom> why would an item install via apt-get and then not show up anywhere on the system?
[20:32] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: try things now as you expect
[20:32] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, :) thx dude.
[20:32] <AndChat-> See
[20:32] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, it worked.
[20:32] <Pici> benbloom: What package?
[20:32] <Barbariandude> benbloom, try showing hidden files on your home directory
[20:32] <benbloom> multiboot
[20:32] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: i did tell you ;-)
[20:32] <Pici> benbloom: You can use dpkg -L packagename to see what files were installed for that package.
[20:33] <benbloom> it was in the repository, so i figured it'd show up in my $PATH if i
[20:33] <benbloom> ahhh ty pici
[20:33] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, you saved me a lot of time.
[20:33] <Kurdistan> many thx.
[20:33] <Barbariandude> Pici, useful, gotta remember that one
[20:33] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: the ownerships were all out of whack, you just set the owner to your user in ubuntu
[20:34] <AndChat-> Kurdistan: its the quick way from earlier, remember?
[20:34] <benbloom> so there doesn;t seem to be a binary when i looked at dpkg -L multiboot
[20:34] <Kurdistan> AndChat-, true.
[20:34] <Kurdistan> :)
[20:34] <AndChat-> ;-)
[20:34] <mutes> hw do i make a drive auto mount at startup?
[20:35] <mutes> how*
[20:35] <BluesKaj> !fstab | mutes
[20:35] <jellow> to create a chroot jail do I need root?
[20:35] <mutes> cool, thanks
[20:37] <Kurdistan> what is the difference between nvidia current and the other nvidia current?
[20:37] <Kurdistan> is the other one like x-swat ppa with the latest stable?
[20:38] <LABcrab> Ciao!
[20:39] <brightspark> Does the command-line system (an option on the alternate installer) provide for multiple virtual terminals (ie the ctrl-alt-f# feature)?
[20:40] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, yea tty has nothing to do with X
[20:40] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, thanks
[20:41] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, and you can always install that and later on install a GUI.
[20:41] <MahaVishnu> if you decide you want one.
[20:42] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, that is what I am thinking- I'm on Maverick and hated Unity when I tried it, so I'm thinking of moving to command-line when I upgrade and checking out fluxbox, xfce, lxde, etc.
[20:42] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, fluxbox !
[20:43] <MahaVishnu> xfce is nice too.
[20:43] <joshteam> hmm, I just upgraded Ubuntu to 11.10 and now when I do things like run Firefox I get this error message each time: http://pastebin.com/BrebkB6i any ideas?
[20:44] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, I read that for some of these (openbox and I think fluxbox too) you can only edit settings by modifying text files- seems a bit crude.
[20:44] <Lordveda> hello world
[20:44] <GaRRu> Any Smart web designer would like to answer some questions of mine?
[20:44] <Barbariandude> !nounity | brightspark
[20:45] <Lordveda> I am trying to learn php5, I need to know how to make apache2 work with my php5 web pages in order to learn
[20:45] <Barbariandude> !anyone | GaRRu
[20:45] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, yea but its so easy really. keybindings go in ~/.fluxbox/keys and startup apps go in ~/.fluxbox/startup
[20:45] <MahaVishnu> its actually very easy.
[20:46] <MahaVishnu> brightspark, and there is an app to change your theme / icons / font from a gui. and some other gui programs to change stuff ( yoiu might need to download them seperatly from xfce though )
[20:46] <MahaVishnu> err fluxbox.
[20:46] <brightspark> MahaVishnu, I'm certainly going to try it out, when Maverick reaches end-of-life if not sooner.
[20:46] <brightspark> Oh I see.  Thanks
[20:47] <GaRRu> !details
[20:47] <dgs> i'm running lucid, and having issues where ubuntu keeps 'correcting' my server time on reboot. (It's a requirement for this server to have the time set 12 hours out from the actual time). I've removed the ntpdate package but it still keeps correcting the time. (Possibly coming from the bios time + timezone or something)
[20:47] <dgs> anyone have any idea how I can stop it doing this?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> Kurdistan, there's only one nvidia-current for your card , the other depends on the kernel module that other nvidias might need
[20:48] <Barbariandude> dgs, did you set timezone on setup?
[20:48] <oCean> Lordveda: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[20:48] <Barbariandude> dgs, sorry, stupid question now I think of it :P will start digging
[20:48] <llutz> dgs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[20:48] <t132> can someone tell me how to setup  filezilla
[20:49] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, jockey installed nvidia legacy driver
[20:49] <Kurdistan> I needed to change to nvidia current
[20:49] <BluesKaj> Kurdistan, did you choose the recommended driver ?
[20:49] <Kurdistan> my nvidia card :) have some bad moment. damn nvidia developer. lazy people.
[20:49] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, yes.
[20:49] <dgs> llutz, yup, so that sets it to the correct time (for that timezone). I need it to remain at the *incorrect* time that I've specified
[20:50] <GaRRu> I have problems with Wicd, It disconnects from the net after some time with no usage. How can I disable the disconnect feature? im running ubuntu 11.04
[20:50] <GaRRu> kde
[20:50] <MahaVishnu> haha Kurdistan if you had an ati card it would be even worse.
[20:50] <brightspark> joshteam, try running "killall gconfd-2" in a terminal to have the daemon respawn
[20:50] <GaRRu> kubuntu*
[20:50] <llutz> dgs: you have to setup the timezone to one corresponding the time you want to have
[20:50] <Kurdistan> nvidia geforce go 7400 have difficultis to run unity becuase it is blacklisted.
[20:50] <cannonfodda> alt f2 has stopped working. nothing happens 11.10 gnome shell. any ideas?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card , and which driver was installed, Kurdistan?
[20:50] <Barbariandude> dgs, can't you just fudge the timezone? Does it need to stay correct?
[20:50] <Kurdistan> I looked to nvnews they say the upcoming driver will fix.
[20:51] <Jack`> i i need some help i am installing ubuntu in expert mode but i need to choose a kernel  now i need to know what is best      linux-generic       linux-image-generic  or linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[20:51] <dgs> it needs to be Etc/UTC for some software packages to work correctly
[20:51] <dgs> which we're trying to get fixed, but in the interim . . . the 'solution' is to offset the actual time
[20:52] <llutz> dgs: some services have own timezone setting (like CRON_TZ)
[20:52] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=b9baf96c84fafe3ce031f93dbd59578c&t=160115
[20:52] <Kurdistan> you will understand
[20:52] <Jack`> hi i need some help i am installing ubuntu in expert mode but i need to choose a kernel  now i need to know what is best      linux-generic       linux-image-generic  or linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[20:52] <Barbariandude> !patience | Jack`
[20:52] <brightspark> Jack`, I'm not sure of the exact difference between the first two, the last one specifies the version, I don't think it will update automatically.
[20:53] <Kurdistan> BluesKaj, because of that nvidia legacy is recommended from ubuntu. but nvidia legacy kind of suck. :)
[20:53] <Jack`> uhu
[20:53] <t132> anyone know how to setup file zilla
[20:53] <t132> ?
[20:53] <Jack`> humzzz not done a long time
[20:53] <Barbariandude> t132, what's causing you problems in the setup?
[20:53] <dgs> llutz, actually, I take that back -  dpkg-reconfigure tzdata didn't change the time - I just hadn't changed it from the last reboot
[20:54] <Jack`> so i think i cant help you i have mi own troubles so
[20:54] <Jack`> :P
[20:54] <Jack`> brightspark i think i whill just go with the first :P
[20:54] <t132> no i just installed it,trying to send some files to a friend
[20:54] <Jack`> a do you have a acount with thet friend
[20:54] <brightspark> Jack`, probably safe.
[20:54] <Jack`> :P
[20:54] <zaltekk> hey, i just installed 11.10. i installed xorg, i3, and slim. slim comes up at boot. however, when i try to login to i3, i get an error about fglrx not being found. i am using an ati card, but i didn't install catalyst. the radeon xorg driver is loaded with kms. how should I proceed?
[20:56] <Cybertinus> evening
[20:56] <Barbariandude> o/
[20:56] <Jack`> damn installer now it asks me if i want to install all  or if i wnat a instalation thet fits but if i choose fit i risk that not all my hardware works
[20:56] <Jack`> pfff i asks to much questions
[20:56] <Jack`> ^^
[20:56] <linuxrealm> i am running lasted version of pidgen on gnome desktop as a newly created demo user on my laptop. for some reason, when trying to connect to gmail.com via xxmp, with correct settings, it wont log me in. i think maybe this new user is not perm'd to use pidgen? how to check... thanks
[20:57] <brightspark> Jack`, I might recommend not using the expert installer if you don't want it to do that...
[20:57] <Cybertinus> for the people who where helping me earlier tonight with my WLAN problem ( |Anthony| for example): the problem is fixed. For some weird reason WLAN was  disabled in the BIOS. Enabled it there again and now I'm IRCing via WLAN :)
[20:57] <zaltekk> anybody? i don't have an xorg.conf, so i don't know why xorg would be trying to load fglrx
[20:57] <zaltekk> i've never had it installed
[20:58] <|Anthony|> Cybertinus, isn't that odd
[20:58] <zaltekk> i was previously running 10.04.3 with this same setup, and there wasn't an issue.
[20:58] <BluesKaj> Kurdistan, I use a geforce 7600gt , and the required nvidia-current is the 285.05.09
[20:58] <MeQuerSat> Enabling the Hotspot feature of NetworkManager renders my system completely unusable. Report this to launchpad?
[20:58] <cannonfodda> alt f2 has stopped working. nothing happens 11.10 gnome shell. any ideas?
[20:59] <Cybertinus> |Anthony|, yeah, it is. I haven't been in the bios of my netbook in years. Don't know why it was disabled. But it is enabled now again, and everything works, so problem solved :)
[20:59] <|Anthony|> Cybertinus, is there a cmos battery
[20:59] <MeQuerSat> cannonfodda, you can enable it again via keyboard settings
[20:59] <askreet> Cybertinus, There's probably a hotkey to enable/disable it you may have hit by accident.
[21:00] <|Anthony|> +1 askreet
[21:00] <t132> i need help,to transfer a file to my other ubuntu system
[21:00] <askreet> Just look at my Dell Mini it's Fn+F2
[21:00] <|Anthony|> usually is a little button or an Fx combination
[21:00] <Cybertinus> |Anthony|, don't know. I do know that the main battery was depleted really deaply multiple times
[21:00] <cannonfodda> that worked a treat thanks:)
[21:00] <MeQuerSat> :)
[21:00] <Cybertinus> askreet, hmm, fn+f2 it is. It's plausible that I've hit that
[21:01] <ali> hi
[21:01] <jellow> how can I bring back a program to forground while running with nohup ?
[21:02] <ali> when im trying to run as root it says the password wrong ,but when i typing sudo ... then it says the same password is ok
[21:02] <ali> why that?
[21:02] <|Anthony|> well, after 4 hours dd if=/dev/urandom of /dev/sda on a 1TB drive has completed 135GB @ 9.2MB/s
[21:02] <zaltekk> ali: root pw != sudo pw
[21:02] <DaZ> ali: because sudo is not using your root password
[21:02] <DaZ> use sudo su
[21:03] <askreet> t132, There are many ways to do this.  You could set up a shared folder on one system, and retreive the files on the other -- or you could set up an ssh server on the destination and copy the files using scp.  This guide seems to help with the latter: http://vikashazrati.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/quicktip-transferring-files-between-two-ubuntu-systems/
[21:03] <t132> its not on the same network
[21:03] <qwebirc51695> hey anyone  able to help me with a bloody wireless issue on ubuntu 11.10?
[21:03] <t132> trying to connect to a remote computer
[21:03] <ali> ty~
[21:03] <askreet> t132, Well, one of them with have to be accessible over the Internet then.
[21:03] <zaltekk> still no ideas about i3 on 11.10 trying to use fglrx when it isn't installed? the display manager works fine.
[21:04] <askreet> t132, Otherwise, you can use an intermediate service like Dropbox?
[21:04] <Jack`> pff i am almost done with the instaal
[21:04] <ali> one more little thing, why when im mouse over on the lft side of my screen the menu dont pop up?
[21:04] <Jack`> :P
[21:04] <t132> they both have internet
[21:04] <|Anthony|> zaltekk, sometimes you need to blacklist things
[21:04] <askreet> jellow, I don't believe you can bring something back to foreground after a nohup.
[21:04] <Jack`> t132  do you have a count his ftp server
[21:04] <dagerik> zaltekk: the fglrx gives me horrible performance with an acer with i7 and ati card
[21:04] <zaltekk> |Anthony|: like what? i'm using the default open source driver
[21:04] <askreet> jellow, You probably want to run things like that inside screen ideally.
[21:05] <ali> ty
[21:05] <zaltekk> dagerik: i didn't install or configure fglrx.
[21:05] <urlin2u> qwebirc51695, you know the wireless card?
[21:05] <zaltekk> dagerik: i only have xserver-xorg-video-ati/radeon installed.
[21:05] <jellow> askreet, I cant I do not own /dev/pts
[21:05] <zaltekk> and no xorg.conf
[21:05] <t132> i just have access to the computer
[21:05] <dagerik> zaltekk: how is that working out for you?
[21:05] <MeQuerSat> Enabling the Hotspot feature of NetworkManager renders my system completely unusable. Report this as a bug?
[21:05] <zaltekk> dagerik: not at all since X tries to load fglrx somehow.
[21:05] <askreet> jellow, I remember you were asking about /dev/pts earlier -- whose system is this?  Have you considered asking them to install and configure screen inside your jail?
[21:06] <zaltekk> dagerik: it doesn't make sense because it is a fresh install and the catalyst driver was never installed
[21:06] <|Anthony|> i remember a time when i had an nvidia card and an intel integrated chip... the intel had to be blacklisted so i could use the nvidia
[21:06] <askreet> MeQuerSat, Sounds like a bug to me, unless the button says "Render system unusable" :)
[21:06] <|Anthony|> bbl
[21:06] <zaltekk> i just installed xorg, slim, and i3. slim displays fine, but when i try to login to i3 slim has an error trying to load fglrx for some unknown reason.
[21:06] <zaltekk> can't find anything about it on google.
[21:06] <jellow> askreet, Its a free bsd shell provider they do not provide support
[21:07] <MeQuerSat> askreet, ok, will file it then:)
[21:07] <zaltekk> dagerik: any ideas?
[21:08] <t132> i installed filezilla but dont know what info to put in
[21:08] <dagerik> zaltekk: I would have answered if I had any ideas.
[21:08] <zaltekk> *sigh*
[21:09] <askreet> t132, Filezilla is an FTP client, right?  That's only going to help you if you have an FTP server running somewhere to drop the file off to.
[21:09] <askreet> t132, If neither system is listening for FTP or SSH connections, you probably have to use something like Dropbox.  Is that feasible?
[21:09] <qwebirc49424> anyone able to help me with a wireless problem on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[21:09] <t132> thats what im trying to do
[21:10] <gnuskool> hallo, just did a fresh server install of ubuntu server, installed webmin, upgraded, but cant login from my other pc, ping and alll else works
[21:11] <askreet> I wouldn't set the target system up as an FTP server, if it can helped.  FTP is bad.  You want to set up an SSH server and use something like scp.  You want to install openssh-server on at least one of the systems.  Then you want to ssh from one system to another by using `ssh user@<other host>`.
[21:11] <zaltekk> or rather, scp <myfiles> <user>@<host>:<destination>
[21:11] <Kottizen> gnuskool: 'login', using?
[21:12] <askreet> zaltekk,  One step at a time :P
[21:12] <zaltekk> Kottizen: i'd assume with "webmin"
[21:12] <Kottizen> zaltekk: could be SSH too
[21:12] <auronandace> !webmin
[21:12] <Kottizen> gnuskool: is it SSH/PuTTY that you cannot login via, or is it webmin?
[21:12] <gnuskool> askreet: didnt install ftp, did install openssh, but am loggin in from a win pc
[21:13] <Kottizen> gnuskool: use WinSCP to transfer files over SSH, not your regular FTP client
[21:13] <askreet> gnuskool, I think we've cross the streams, I'm trying to help t132 with a file transfer issue as well :P
[21:13] <gnuskool> askreet: ping to server is fine, but from the browser, https://xxxxxxxx:10000 has no connection whatsoever
[21:13] <StepNjump> There is something I really don't understand. If I create a link using nautilus it works but when I bring it on my desktop, it no longer works, why?
[21:13] <Kottizen> !webmin | gnuskool
[21:13] <MeQuerSat> Kottizen, FileZilla can be used perfectly fine to transfer files over SSH
[21:13] <zaltekk> gnuskool: netstat -l # to make sure port 10000 is listening
[21:14] <gnuskool> askreet: my bad
[21:14] <Kottizen> MeQuerSat: I never said it couldn't
[21:14] <MeQuerSat> Kottizen, you suggested it though ;)
[21:14] <t132> the file im trying to send is 11gb
[21:14] <gnuskool> Kottizen: im trying to logi using ff to webmin
[21:15] <The_Jag> Hi all, is there a way to get into ubuntu that new Characters Picker feature of OSX Lion?
[21:15] <th^2> how to create files in format that ti 89 accepts?
[21:15] <Kottizen> gnuskool: you shouldn't be using webmin at all
[21:15] <RokcStar> is there a channel for general disussion of ubuntu?
[21:15] <Kottizen> th^2: do you know what format they need?
[21:15] <th^2> Kottizen, no
[21:15] <zaltekk> my fresh install of 11.10 has xorg, slim, and i3 installed. my video card is an ati radeon hd 2400(r610). i haven't installed the catalyst binary drivers from ati. however, when i login with slim it errors out. slim.log says xorg failed to load fglrx, which is the catalyst binary driver. why is this happening, and how can i fixed it?
[21:16] <zaltekk> th^2: check texas instruments' website.
[21:16] <Kottizen> th^2: when you do you should be able to just create a blank file and name it <something>.<file format>
[21:16] <askreet> zaltekk,  Empty xorg.conf I assume?
[21:16] <zaltekk> askreet: yep.
[21:16] <zaltekk> askreet: rather, no xorg.conf
[21:16] <MeQuerSat> RokcStar, #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[21:16] <askreet> Right.
[21:16] <zaltekk> askreet: the opensource ati/radeon driver is loaded with kms.
[21:17] <The_Jag> Or, is there a quick way to access accented chars from withing the pc's keyboard instead that taking them from a char map onscreen?
[21:17] <askreet> zaltekk, I really wish I actually had a handy Ubuntu system :(
[21:17] <zaltekk> i could pastebin logs and such
[21:18] <zaltekk> but there is only the one error, and there are no configuration changes
[21:18] <zaltekk> or even any xorg configuration at all.
[21:18] <askreet> I'd really just be reminding myself how it determines what driver to load -- something down in /usr/lib/X11 iirc
[21:18] <zaltekk> it doesn't make sense to me that slim works but the actual wm does not.
[21:18] <askreet> slim is the display manager right?
[21:19] <zaltekk> right.
[21:19] <gnuskool> zaltekk: its not even listening
[21:19] <zaltekk> gnuskool: okay, then it isn't setup right. or it isn't started. did you try service webmin start?
[21:19] <askreet> Can I see that slim log?  I suspect the error about fglrx is not your main problem -- I think Xorg just tries to load drivers that are compatible in order and probably tries fglrx, then radeon
[21:19] <zaltekk> askreet: when i login it reloads slim and the X error appears in /var/log/slim.log
[21:20] <zaltekk> askreet: okay, let me copy it across the network.
[21:20] <askreet> zaltekk, Have you tried launching your window manager by hand from .xinitrc?  I haven't used the latest Ubuntu but the old approach would be to init 3, then modify .xinitrc and run "xinit"
[21:21] <zaltekk> askreet: by hand, no. i will in a minute. let me paste the logs first.
[21:22] <gnuskool> Kottizen, what should I be using then? Wierd thing is webmin was working yesterday but this is a practice serverr so I trashed it all and started from scratch
[21:22] <Kottizen> gnuskool: SSH, preferably
[21:23] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, just blacklist the module you don't want to load......
[21:23] <Kottizen> gnuskool: do all your administrative tasks through a remote terminal (SSH)
[21:23] <Kottizen> gnuskool: it's not as easy as webmin, but you'll learn a lot and benefit a lot from it
[21:23] <zaltekk> askreet: /var/log/slim.log: http://codepad.org/K289M2kl :: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://codepad.org/5uFePoCu
[21:23] <iretch> i've been tweaking my mouse settings with synclient, how can i go about saving them permanently in xubuntu?
[21:23] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: there isn't a module loading.
[21:23] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, lsmod | grep fglrx
[21:23] <grkblood> For the last couple of days my video players havent been working properly. When I play a video in say, VLC, the audio plays but the video is a black screen. If I right click in the video player my entire laptop screen starts going crazy and I have to restart gnome. has anyone heard of this>
[21:23] <gnuskool> Kottizen: gotcha! thx
[21:24] <Jack`> humzz i am installing it again because it failed
[21:24] <askreet> zaltekk, Never heard of i3 before, looking interesting.  I wonder if it would compile on RHEL6 (what I use at work) :P  I use dwm now.
[21:24] <Jack`> ^^
[21:24] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: it isn't loaded. isn't even installed.
[21:24] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, then whats wrong ?
[21:24] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: X tries errors out loading the wm, and that is the only error i can find
[21:24] <zaltekk> there isn't an xorg.conf
[21:25] <zaltekk> so nothing should tell it to load the binary driver
[21:25] <rasmusth> anybody tried ubuntu on the newest mac mini?
[21:25] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, pastebin it ?
[21:25] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: already did, let me grab the URLs
[21:25] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: /var/log/slim.log: http://codepad.org/K289M2kl :: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://codepad.org/5uFePoCu
[21:26] <askreet> zaltekk, I really think the fgl stuff is unrelated, look at Xorg.0.log you can see that it tries to load many drivers (autoconfigured drivers X @ lines 100-104), then configure each of them.
[21:26] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, some times it will make an xorg.new.conf or some crap in your home dir and use that.
[21:26] <zaltekk> askreet: right, but there there are no other errors...
[21:26] <askreet> fglrx simply fails because it's not installed, I bet i3 is failing for an entirely different reason.
[21:26] <zaltekk> askreet: i don't see any other errors.
[21:26] <askreet> If you try the .xinitrc/xinit route you may get more output?
[21:26] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: i don't have one.
[21:26] <zaltekk> askreet: about to.
[21:27] <askreet> Could try starting a blank X session (X &) from a terminal, then connecting i3 to it (probably something like DISPLAY=:0 i3) and see what happens.
[21:27] <biagidp> what user do jobs in /etc/cron.daily/ run as?
[21:27] <askreet> All of this from a real VT (ctrl+alt+f1) into :0 (ctrl+alt+f7, probably).
[21:27] <askreet> biagidp, root
[21:27] <biagidp> askreet: thank you!
[21:28] <askreet> biagidp, specifically the run-parts in /etc/cron.d or /etc/crontab is set to run as root. :P
[21:28] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, first thing is you need the 75dpi and the 100dpi x11 font packages.
[21:28] <niklot_> anyone use haskell here in ubuntu?
[21:29] <xperia> hi to all. have a small problem. everytime i boot into ubuntu i have only about 480 MB System Ram even my RAM is 4GB big. how can i tell ubuntu to use full RAM availble ? with such low ram ubuntu is heavy slow as allways the swap is used !
[21:29] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: is the xorg metapackage not enough to use xorg?
[21:29] <askreet> xperia, How are you looking at your ram usage?  Can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/meminfo" and "free -m"?
[21:29] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, you need those fonts for alot of stuff and it's complaining about them in your log just get them to be sure.
[21:30] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: will do. having to reboot. service slim stop continually fails. i did kill -s SIGKILL `pgreg slim` and the system deadlocked
[21:30] <askreet> zaltekk, Ha!  i3 uses dmenu -- I bet this is a fork of dwm :P
[21:30] <xperia> i am using top in terminal modus. the availble system ram is only 480MB and free ram is about 4MB
[21:30] <zaltekk> askreet: it isn't. it is a from scratch project made to be like wmii
[21:31] <askreet> zaltekk, Ah, so they just make use of dmenu?  Makes sense.
[21:31] <xperia> i have all the time swap work. need really to tell ubuntu to use max availble ram ! can not pastebin the output as it is nearly not possible really to use the ubuntu desktop !
[21:32] <Droyd> night
[21:32] <zaltekk> askreet: correct.
[21:32] <OerHeks> xperia, specs say you need 1 gb of ram. that could explain your slow system
[21:32] <askreet> He has 4G, that was the original issue :P
[21:33] <askreet> showing as 480M
[21:33] <xperia> how much system ram do you all have when you run the command top into the console
[21:33] <MeQuerSat> xperia, top shows the cached RAM usage
[21:33] <zaltekk> hah
[21:33] <xperia> i guess while i have installed ubuntu i have chosen some wrong setting
[21:33] <MahaVishnu> free -m
[21:33] <askreet> xperia, They have all their RAM, as you should.  You may want to look at 'dmesg|tail"
[21:33] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: that fixed it. strange that no error was reported.
[21:33] <MeQuerSat> xperia, if you have 4MB free thats perfect as it is using as cache
[21:33] <zaltekk> just installed xfonts-[75|100]dpi
[21:33] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, installing the fonts fixed it ?
[21:33] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: yep. thanks!
[21:34] <askreet> Wow, that was t?
[21:34] <zaltekk> askreet: all better.
[21:34] <askreet> it*
[21:34] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, I consider it a bug. that it's not packaged with the xorg like you said.
[21:34] <MeQuerSat> xperia, if you do "free -m" you can see what it uses without the cache/buffer
[21:34] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: well, slim worked fine. it's just i3 that needed them.
[21:34] <askreet> Well the included DE with Ubuntu has the fonts it needs... it should probably be a requirement of the i3 package.
[21:34] <askreet> Unless you installed from source?
[21:34] <zaltekk> xorg gave me xfonts-base
[21:34] <xperia> MeQuerSat: but why is then ubuntu such slow. all the time the hard disk is heavy used and swap usage goes up and down !
[21:34] <zaltekk> askreet: nope, i used the i3 metapackaged
[21:34] <boldfilter> anyone know any good unity customizations
[21:34] <askreet> So the i3 metapackage should depend 75|100dpi packages.
[21:35] <MeQuerSat> xperia, could you give us the output of "free -m" and "top" ?
[21:35] <askreet> bug report time! :)
[21:35] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, idk what 'slim' and 'i3' isnt an intel chip obviously ?
[21:35] <xperia> it freeze for several seconds even all the time !
[21:35] <MeQuerSat> xperia, use something as pastebin.com to upload
[21:35] <askreet> MahaVishnu, http://i3wm.org/
[21:35] <askreet> Pretty neat
[21:35] <askreet> I may see if there's a RHEL6 package for it and check it out at work.
[21:35] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: slim is login manager. i3 is a window manager.
[21:35] <zaltekk> and i spoke too soon.
[21:35] <zaltekk> logging into wm-less X worked
[21:35] <zaltekk> i3 still fails.
[21:36] <xperia> well okay have to reboot into ubuntu see you in about 10 minutes
[21:36] <boldfilter> Any unity themes?
[21:36] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, :F
[21:36] <MahaVishnu> zaltekk, how are you trying to start i3 ?
[21:36] <zaltekk> i'm about to head home from work and i'm going to try the exact same install/setup on my nvidia-based laptop
[21:36] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: logging in from slim.
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> what is slim lol ?
[21:37] <MeQuerSat> <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: slim is login manager. i3 is a window manager.
[21:37] <MeQuerSat> ...
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> ah.
[21:37] <MahaVishnu> maybe your .desktop file is wrong
[21:37] <atlan80> hi there. anybody got the rtl2832u module running with 2.6.32, pae enabled?
[21:37] <zaltekk> .desktop?
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> how does slim load sessions ?
[21:38] <zaltekk> MahaVishnu: Xsession
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> then maybe the error is in the config.
[21:38] <zaltekk> what config? =/
[21:38] <askreet> zaltekk, /usr/share/X11/Xsessions or similiar should have an i3.desktop file
[21:38] <MahaVishnu> yea
[21:39] <atlan80> if so, how? I keep gettn' 'disagrees about dvb_usb_device_init' ... :-(
[21:40] <zaltekk> well, i'll mess with it later. i'm out of time
[21:40] <zaltekk> thanks for the help
[21:40] <MahaVishnu> kk
[21:40] <MeQuerSat> "well, i'll mess with it later. i'm out of time" <-- so familiar xD
[21:41] <Jack`> MahaVishnu  i forgot to install grub bootloader how do i start my ubuntu then from grub shell
[21:41] <Droyd> merry christmas for everybody see you soon...kind regard's
[21:41] <MeQuerSat> thank you Droyd, same to you :)
[21:42] <atlan80> coming back later, must check sthg... see y'all.
[21:43] <Jack`> humzz how do i boot linux ubuntu from grub shell
[21:44] <MeQuerSat> Jack`, that's hard to do
[21:44] <MeQuerSat> Jack`, you should boot from a live-cd and reinstall grub
[21:44] <rasmusth> When I pick replace Mac OS X, shouldn't it create stuff so that it can boot on its own?
[21:44] <|Anthony|> Jack`, do you boot into a grub shell?
[21:45] <Jack`> jup
[21:45] <Jack`> i do
[21:45] <|Anthony|> or go right into gdm
[21:45] <Jack`> grub shell
[21:45] <Jack`> so now
[21:45] <|Anthony|> from cli should be starx
[21:45] <Jack`> huh
[21:45] <jost> i got the following error when trying to start my upstart job using "start idleShutdown": http://pastebin.com/CFJ1zJ9K whats wrong there?
[21:45] <MeQuerSat> |Anthony|, thats wrong
[21:45] <RadarG> has anyone here gotten starcraft 2 to work on ubuntu?
[21:45] <|Anthony|> aw
[21:45] <MeQuerSat> Jack`, boot a live-cd and reinstall grub
[21:45] <Jack`> pffff
[21:45] <MeQuerSat> Ive done it many times, its the only way
[21:45] <xperia_> hi to all. i have now booted into ubuntu again. here is what free -m output on my system
[21:45] <xperia_> http://pastebin.com/5Y2HUWf7
[21:46] <Jack`> just tryed that and it whant to reinstall all over eagain
[21:46] <xperia_> i have 4GB Ram and ubuntu use only 480MB
[21:46] <rasmusth> does anybody know?
[21:46] <RadarG> is there a way to ditch unity and switch back to gnome or kde?
[21:46] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, 32bit or 64bit version?
[21:46] <xperia_> 64BIT
[21:46] <MeQuerSat> RadarG, I use Gnome Shell: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[21:47] <MeQuerSat> RadarG, for starcraft: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[21:47] <seb__> what's the console command to display the desktop in xfce? I want to create a keyboard shortcut and don't know the command. Ty
[21:48] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, that's really weird, if you boot the live-cd and do "free -m" do you see 480m too?
[21:48] <Barbariandude> !nounity | RadarG
[21:48] <xperia_> hooo dont have the cd anymore. upgrade ubuntu now several times
[21:48] <RadarG> cool thanks
[21:48] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, I would suggest a clean re-install
[21:48] <xperia_> there must be some setting for ubuntu that tell him how much ram to use
[21:49] <xperia_> ohh noo then i wll totally trash ubuntu
[21:49] <MeQuerSat> xperia_, if it shows 480m instead of 4095 there is something really wrong
[21:49] <xperia_> it sucks really
[21:49] <seb__> it's part of the window manager, ignore my question
[21:49] <xperia_> well then never again ubuntu in this case
[21:49] <xperia_> thanks for the info
[21:50] <xperia_> bye to all
[21:50] <MeQuerSat> ...
[21:50] <conntrack> Evening
[21:50] <lenneth_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[21:51] <ameurux> hi
[21:53] <lenneth_> ping
[21:54] <boldfilter> Dear ubuntu, unity sucks dick, love you
[21:54] <conntrack> haha
[21:54] <conntrack> Love that joker
[21:55] <boldfilter> What can you say?
[21:56] <boldfilter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BKiC3geDCc
[21:56] <boldfilter> The guy in this video gets pissed talking about ubuntu
[21:57] <Pessimism> I installed cree.py on the latest version of Ubuntu, but I can't find out where and how to run it: http://ilektrojohn.github.com/creepy/. I'm sure it's dead simple, but I'm new to Ubuntu.
[21:58] <Guest67273> I need to change a shell script which is  /usr/bin/xdg-email  what is the command line to do this sudo something ?
[21:59] <lenneth_> watch out your language please, and just change your windws manager or stick to maverick if you dont like.
[21:59] <lenneth_> ping test - please ignore it, im checking the weak wireless im attached to.
[21:59] <mneptok> boldfilter: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:59] <zerobyte> Guest67273 can you be more specific ?
[22:01] <Guest67273> There is this shell script  /usr/bin/xdg-email  which has a bug in it. If I open it by clicking on it it is read only. I know there is a command line to edit it but dont know the command
[22:02] <genoobie> hey all
[22:02] <rasmusth> lulz
[22:02] <rasmusth> replaced OSX with ubuntu
[22:02] <rasmusth> now when I turn it on I get white screen
[22:02] <boldfilter> bRO, WHY LOL
[22:02] <rasmusth> and nothing happens
[22:03] <goddard> does Unity have a channel?
[22:04] <boldfilter> ya it's #unity-sucks
[22:04] <mneptok> boldfilter: stop.
[22:05] <OerHeks> goddard, you are in it.
[22:05] <genoobie> hey I just installed lubuntu a while ago and I love it.  Just today, the wireless crapped out
[22:05] <genoobie> I am a complete newb, so I am not sure how to fix this...
[22:05] <genoobie> any tips would be greatly appreciated.
[22:06] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:06] <Pessimism> If I install a program with apt-get, where is it supposed to be available in the newest version of Ubuntu?
[22:06] <mneptok> genoobie: did you get a kernel update recently (i did). try booting into an older kernel from the GRUB boot menu.
[22:06] <genoobie> hrm
[22:06] <genoobie> okay
[22:06] <genoobie> let me see what grub says
[22:07] <mneptok> Pessimism: the binary? config files? libraries? what?
[22:07] <genoobie> nah, they are both 3.0.0-13-generic
[22:08] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx
[22:08] <Pessimism> I am trying to find the executable for cree.py: http://ilektrojohn.github.com/creepy/.
[22:08] <genoobie> mneptok, so I think the versions are the same
[22:08] <Pessimism> source at https://github.com/ilektrojohn/creepy
[22:08] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Try "whereis $program_name".
[22:08] <genoobie> I would rather fix it than boot windows
[22:08] <kkerwin> Pessimism: That's a python file, which is not a binary.
[22:08] <mneptok> Pessimism: sudo updatedb && locate cree.py
[22:08] <genoobie> let me boot windows and see if the wireless works
[22:09] <kkerwin> How did you download it? As a package file from ubuntu, or straight from the website?
[22:09] <genoobie> mneptok any other suggestions?
[22:09] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:09] <mneptok> genoobie: if you have not checked to make sure the wireless works at all, no.
[22:09] <genoobie> ugh, now windows won't boot
[22:10] <fullstop> Hi all.  Anyone here use a verizon USB551L 4G modem?
[22:10] <Jack`> nope
[22:10] <Jack`> :P
[22:10] <fullstop> I'm trying to figure out which driver will work with it.
[22:10] <Jack`> google
[22:10] <kkerwin> fullstop: Nope.
[22:10] <Jack`> :P
[22:10] <OerHeks> Jack`, that is not helpfull
[22:10] <fullstop> So far I've built the smusb driver, which reveals several ttyUSBx devices
[22:10] <Jack`> nope i now
[22:10] <Jack`> :P
[22:10] <fullstop> and one of them has an AT interpreter running
[22:10] <LINCE10> CIAO
[22:10] <rasmusth> yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:10] <Pessimism> mneptok: Shouldn't I be able to run it with python cree.py?
[22:10] <kkerwin> fullstop: You can pick up routers (cradlepoint) that will take a usb air card and give off a wifi signal.
[22:11] <Pessimism> nothing happens when I do it
[22:11] <fullstop> but it does not allow the typical ppp connection
[22:11] <LINCE10> !LIST
[22:11] <genoobie> mneptok, any way to diag that?
[22:11] <mneptok> Pessimism: python /path/to/where/you/can/find/cree.py
[22:11] <Jack`> pff i am reinstalling 3 time
[22:11] <Jack`> :P
[22:11] <fullstop> kkerwin: I'm aware of that, but I'm trying to use it in linux.
[22:11] <kkerwin> Pessimism: You have to be in the same directory as cree.py.
[22:11] <Pessimism> I am - usr/share/creepy
[22:11] <fullstop> Ubuntu tries to pick it up as cdc_ether
[22:11] <Pessimism> (At least I think so)
[22:11] <Pessimism> dir shows it
[22:11] <mneptok> Pessimism: pwd
[22:12] <fullstop> So that exposes an eth2 device, but I can't get any data to flow.
[22:12] <Pessimism> pwd -> /usr/share/creepy
[22:12] <kkerwin> fullstop: Sorry buddy. Above my paygrade. ;-)
[22:12] <mneptok> Pessimism: python ./cree.py
[22:12] <MahaVishnu> fullstop, is eth2 up ?
[22:12] <fullstop> kkerwin: Not a problem.  I was just hoping that somebody here might have tried to use one
[22:13] <rasmusth> Yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:13] <Jack`> MahaVishnu
[22:13] <Pessimism> mneptok: Same. Nothing happens.
[22:13] <fullstop> MahaVishnu: Yes.  Tx counters accumulate but Rx never does
[22:13] <Jack`> i am reinstalling
[22:13] <Jack`> :P
[22:13] <genoobie> ugh, this really sucks
[22:13] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:13] <Jack`> MahaVishnu : i am reinstalling
[22:13] <Pessimism> Viewing as su fwiw at root@ubuntu:/usr/share/creepy#
[22:13] <mneptok> Pessimism: then something is wrong with that Python script. it should at least fail with an error.
[22:13] <MahaVishnu> Jack`, ok ? but I don't believe im familiar with your issue ;-)
[22:14] <fullstop> I'm going to add some kprints to the cdc_ether driver and see how that goes.
[22:14] <fullstop> thanks
[22:14] <Pessimism> yeah. Good it isn't just me.
[22:14] <Pessimism> Thanks
[22:14] <Jack`> MahaVishnu lol i whas the one with the failing grub
[22:14] <Jack`> MahaVishnu and no i cant use the damn live cd :P
[22:14] <kkerwin> Pessimism: cree.py is, as I recall, a graphical program. I remember checking it out to teach my grade school kids about internet stalkers.  Anyway, do you notice a graphical window popping up **underneath** your console window?
[22:14] <Matt040804> So, I've totally f'ed up the python install on my machine--is there anyway to "reinstall" it
[22:14] <mneptok> Pessimism: and "i ran some random Python app I found on Sourceforge as the root user" is an insanely bad idea.
[22:14] <Matt040804> ?
[22:15] <MahaVishnu> Jack`, why not? and there is liveusb and sry I dont remember.
[22:15] <Matt040804> I know it's totally integrated with the OS, so I'm not really sure how to go about fixing it.
[22:15] <Jack`> MahaVishnu lol i am using the live cd
[22:15] <rasmusth> Yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:16] <MahaVishnu> Jack`, wahts wrong with your grub ?
[22:16] <Pessimism> kkerwin: It is a graphical program, yes. But nothing happens.
[22:16] <Pessimism> mneptok: It's just a mess-around installation, but point well taken.
[22:16] <rasmusth> is there a support channel?
[22:16] <Jack`> MahaVishnu look in your ruery
[22:16] <Jack`> query
[22:16] <Jack`> :P
[22:16] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Got an idea.
[22:17] <kkerwin> Pessimism: You're running this with sudo, right?
[22:17] <Pessimism> indeed
[22:17] <boldfilter> Anyone know any ubuntu unity alternatives
[22:17] <Pessimism> idiotic mistakes completely within reason
[22:17] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Try this: DISPLAY=:0 python ./cree.py
[22:17] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Pardon: DISPLAY=:0 sudo python ./cree.py
[22:18] <Pessimism> kkerwin: Nothing happens. By the look of it.
[22:18] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Try switching the order of display and sudo, ie: sudo DISPLAY=:0 python ./cree.py
[22:18] <Pessimism> same
[22:19] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ok. I have another idea. Give me a second to make sure I get the command right ...
[22:19] <compdoc> join #centos
[22:19] <Pessimism> Butters, even if I am not su, I should still be able to access it as 'pessimism' user somehow like any ordinary program without going to usr/share/creepy, right? Considering that I am able to run programs like Chrome, etc.
[22:19] <Pessimism> kkerwin: Thanks. Appreciate it.
[22:20] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ok. Hit Alt-F2. Type "gksudo". A window should pop up. Type "python /path/to/dir/cree.py".
[22:21] <Pessimism> kkwerwin: Nothign seems to have happened
[22:21] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ooops. It's Alt-F2. Type "gksudo python /path/to/dir/cree.py". Then type your passwd in the next window.
[22:21] <Matt040804> I think I have the wrong version of Python installed--I tried fiddling with it a long time ago and now it's not working correctly, and I don't remember what I changed. Is there any way to get it back to the original state?
[22:21] <Pessimism> ah
[22:21] <Pessimism> sec
[22:21] <rasmusth> Yo guys, I installed Ubuntu, replaced OSX, now when I boot I get a folder with a questionmark, on a white background. Any ideas?
[22:22] <Pessimism> sec
[22:22] <Pessimism> now it entered tty2
[22:22] <kkerwin> Pessimism: not sure what you mean there.
[22:22] <Pessimism> kkerwin: I am suddenly in a DOS-like interface
[22:22] <Pessimism> (?!)
[22:22] <Pessimism> so that's a thing
[22:23] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Oh. You must have hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead of just Alt-F2.
[22:23] <Pessimism> ah
[22:23] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Hit Alt-F7 to get back.
[22:23] <Pessimism> ah, cheers
[22:24] <Pessimism> hmm, still nothing with gksudo python
[22:24] <kkerwin> Pessimism: Ok. Well, I'm spent on ideas, then. Sorry.
[22:24] <Pessimism> But I'll live if I can't run the program. I just wondered if I was completely oblivious, or whether something was bugged. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive.) Thanks a bunch, kkwerwin, regardless!
[22:25] <Pessimism> Learnt a thing or seventeen along the way
[22:25] <kkerwin> No biggie. You're welcome.
[22:25] <kkerwin> Hi. I just setup an NFS share, but the directory that I'm trying to share is apparently "unable to be exported". Any reason why this is, and what can I do to fix the issue?
[22:26] <diverdude> I have a .deb package. How do i install that?
[22:26] <MahaVishnu> `MArceLL`, diverdude sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[22:26] <kkerwin> diverdude: dpkg -i $PACKAGE_NAME.deb.
[22:26] <MahaVishnu> how did that marcell name get in there
[22:27] <diverdude> thx
[22:28] <super789> hello, i'm trying to connect to the router in Lubuntu, i wirte the key and the it just resquest the key again (like if was wrong) but the key is ok....
[22:29] <kkerwin> super789: Are you sure that you have selected the right kind of encryption?
[22:29] <kkerwin> WEP vs WPA?
[22:29] <kkerwin> There's also a couple of different cyphers in there, etc.
[22:29] <super789> kkerwin: it is just automatic.
[22:30] <super789> the key haves 10 leters
[22:30] <super789> insert the wireless usb stick
[22:30] <super789> right click> connect to network
[22:31] <almostroot> So I set up a local repo using apt-mirror, and I'm attempting to net boot and install from it, but I get an error that the installer failed to download a file from the mirror. Is there any way to find out what file?
[22:34] <super789> kkerwin: it is WPA/WPA2 PSK
[22:34] <kkerwin> super789: Most likely. Either that, or it's WEP. You picked it when you setup the router.
[22:35] <kkerwin> WPA is FAR FAR FAR better than WEP.
[22:35] <kkerwin> super789: Oh. That was a statement. Not a question. Disregard my last. ;-)
[22:35] <super789> kkerwin: i dont have acess to the router, i only have the password and need to connect my system to it. so i should try to change the settings that lubuntu defined automaticlly??
[22:36] <kkerwin> Give it a try. You can always change it back.
[22:36] <super789> ok thanks
[22:40] <diverdude> I try to do sudo apt-get install libzip-dev libzip1 but i get an error. How do i install these packages?
[22:42] <luis_> What Error?
[22:42] <goddard> OerHeks: well i need some help debugging some issues
[22:42] <diverdude> luis_, You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[22:42] <diverdude> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:42] <diverdude>  libzip-dev : Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed
[22:43] <diverdude> luis_, and then some more Depends and the Try apt-get -f install
[22:43] <diverdude> but i guess -f is force install right?
[22:43] <diverdude> so that means libzip wont be working because it dont have dependencies?
[22:43] <kkerwin> Hi. When I start my NFS server, I receive the following error message:
[22:43] <kkerwin> exportfs: ***** does not support NFS export". But nothing else. What's going on here?
[22:45] <rj175>  Hello,I am having issues booting a LVM root. I moved my root partition (including boot) into a lvm, I have managed to get the system to boot to the xubuntu splash screen but it cannot find my / lvm. Ive changed my fstab to the new one but still nothing
[22:45] <Antonis> Hello folks. I have installed apache and changed the documentroot from /var/www to /media/Storage/www (Storage is a NTFS partition). When I try to access the website I get a forbidden error.
[22:45] <incorrect> in my notification tray there is a battery indicator, does anyone know where it is coming from?
[22:45] <Antonis> Permissions seem ok cause ls -al shows my user as owner what could be wrong?
[22:45] <incorrect> or how i can stop it from being loaded?
[22:45] <diverdude> I try to do sudo apt-get install libzip-dev libzip1 but i get an error. How do i install these packages?
[22:46] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, did you try sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev
[22:47] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, yes...its the same problem
[22:47] <salty> !root | Guest58106
[22:47] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, ubuntu 11.10? 32/64bit ?
[22:47] <salty> lol
[22:47] <salty> not what i wanted
[22:48] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, 64 bit
[22:48] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, 11.10 yes
[22:49] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, I just did a sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev and it worked for me with default sources on 64 /11.10. also I did install the packages you wanted to install first and it did not ask me for that zlib1g at all...
[22:49] <Guest58106> Hi
[22:49] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, my main goal is actually to install this: http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads
[22:49] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, how did you install those zlib?
[22:49] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, does a sudo apt-get autoclean help ?
[22:49] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, via apt-get
[22:50] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, no does not help
[22:50] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, can you install this .deb pack : http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads 64bit 11.10 ?
[22:54] <habas> who else thinks that ubuntu is getting a bit lame these days?
[22:54] <joshteam> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:54] <joshteam> kernel?
[22:54] <joshteam> for ubutnu 11.10
[22:54] <joshteam> Ubuntu*
[22:55] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, it wants alot of dependencies to be installed first.
[22:55] <truefx> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:55] <truefx>   lazarus: Depends: lazarus-ide (>= 0.9.28.2-8ubuntu1)
[22:55] <truefx> E: Broken packages
[22:55] <truefx> i cant install lazarus on ubuntu 10.04 any idea ?
[22:55] <truefx> i have above error message . im newbei in linux
[22:56] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search zlib1g-dev
[22:56] <Butters> Pessimism: what are you talking about? I guess from the sounds of it.
[22:57] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, crap i think i f..... up my packagemanager
[22:57] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, how so ?
[22:57] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, i get error nomatter what i try to install
[22:57] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, what error?
[22:57] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, always some dependence error
[22:57] <dagerik> My screen goes black as in a black screensaver after about 10 min. Cannot find any settin to turn it off. I am using 11.10, Gnome.
[22:58] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, look here_: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/648339454
[22:58] <helix_9> Good Afternoon, Can you give me a tip how i can put the stream i get with VideoCapture back in a virtual video1 device?
[22:58] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get autoclean
[23:00] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:00] <diverdude> MahaVishnu, phew...youre a hero...that seemed to fix it
[23:01] <jwang> is there a way to get gnome-terminal to work after upgrading to 11.10? I have the GConf error which seems to be fairly common now
[23:01] <hacked_kernel> how to know the audio input device path on my system? like /dev/xx
[23:01] <freaky[t]> hi all i have a problem installing the ati drivers from the ati website in ubuntu 11.10. after doing aticonfig --initial it says:  Unable to find any supported Screen sections can anybody help me please?
[23:01] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, look through aplay -L
[23:01] <calwig> hi where can I ask about formatting a document on WORD?
[23:02] <calwig> I thought about here: so, here is what I would like to do:
[23:02] <hacked_kernel> MahaVishnu, its name is "default"  , i need a device name to capture from it programatically
[23:02] <calwig> I have a 150 page Text. Single Row. What Id like is to do a Double Row. How can I add this, when the document has already been formatted?
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, you using pulse audio? and what are you trying to do exactly ?
[23:03] <diverdude> how do i see what files a package installed
[23:03] <diverdude> ?
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> diverdude, sudo dpkg -L package
[23:03] <salty> ubuntu doesn't come with Word, so I wouldn't know
[23:03] <hacked_kernel> MahaVishnu, I wanna capture audio for speech recognition ,  I have Ubuntu 11.10 so yes Pulse
[23:04] <SunTsu> calwig: don't you think that _word_ is a little bit off in this channel?
[23:04] <goddard> alright so I installed the lastest Nvidia drivers and my window movement is still laggy under ubuntu
[23:04] <goddard> im using the 460M which is a great card and should have no problem
[23:04] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, I know how to set up recording, but not exactly how to find a /dev/device for it...
[23:04] <goddard> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87070/nvidia-gtx-460m-laggy-display
[23:05] <MahaVishnu> hacked_kernel, if you install pavucontrol you can setup your line-in settings etc.
[23:11] <lsv> Is there any way to compile a *.cpp file in linux, but that the executable works on windows?
[23:12] <arcsky> with new ubuntu server i get some pc info when i login with ssh. howw can i get that to ubuntu desktop?
[23:13] <lsv> arcsky: I don't know but maybe it is the motd file?
[23:13] <SunTsu> lsv: you can do cross compiling, and there's howtos for it, but that's hardly ubuntu specific
[23:14] <lsv> SunTsu: does g++ have a flag for that?
[23:15] <Kirsch> hey - i just wanted to get some sort of consensus - what DLNA service do most people use in here? i'm currently using mediatomb but it seems that "Indexing" support with that and my google tv dont work, i just got serviio started but it doesn't seem to support the console mode without x so i figured i'd come and ask anyone here.
[23:15] <siric> does someone has a script which can search a term on google and return the number of results?
[23:15] <SunTsu> arcsky: could be dynamic motd generation triggered by pam_motd.so
[23:15] <MahaVishnu> Kirsch, idk about googletv but ps3 media server is dlna and works very good with xbox360 / ps3
[23:15] <MahaVishnu> it does support some other devices though check the website
[23:16] <dagerik> Lol, how hard can it be to disable the fucking black screen I get after about 10 min. I have searched through all of the settings in Gnome 3, 11.10
[23:16] <Kirsch> MahaVishnu: ya and it works very well with my PS3 as of now and i didn't change any config with Mediatomb but GoogleTV threw an error (it's actually Logitech's Media Center app, it DOES play through their app I just have to browse through all the files, it could support global serach)
[23:16] <wh1zz0> YeeeeaaaaS!!!!! Finally got DW CS5 working 100% on oneiric
[23:17] <Escherial> hey, why are all the backgrounds on eclipse tooltips black after upgrading to 11.10?
[23:17] <wh1zz0> I'm so dumping VM
[23:17] <forceflow> Escherial: are you sure you're running eclipse with Sun's Java
[23:17] <Escherial> er, or more helpfully, how would i go about changing them? :)
[23:17] <forceflow> and nog GCJ (open source java)
[23:17] <forceflow> sorry, GJC I think that is
[23:18] <Kirsch> i guess i should be asking if anyone else in here uses a media center and does NOT use mediatomb and how they like it?
[23:18] <forceflow> Escherial: check set-alternatives java
[23:18] <salty> dagerik, try 'xset s off'
[23:18] <Escherial> forceflow: you're right, i'm using openjdk
[23:18] <SunTsu> arcsky: http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/ has it covered quite well, although the author doesn't seem to be fond of it too much
[23:19] <forceflow> Escherial: you better change to SUN jdk if you want eclipse to display properly, I'm afraid
[23:19] <forceflow> I think that's the problem
[23:19] <MahaVishnu> dagerik, remove option DPMS from /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you are talking about 'screen blanking'
[23:19] <Escherial> strange that this should've changed between 11.04 and 11.10
[23:19] <forceflow> Escherial: eclipse updated too ...
[23:19] <Matt040804> If I were to completely reinstall ubuntu, would there be any conflicts from copying my home directory over the new one?
[23:19] <forceflow> Escherial: other thing to try: switch to non-accelerated desktop (ubuntu 2D, or simple, or whatever it's called nowadays :) )
[23:19] <Escherial> the tooltips display properly, just with a black background; is there perhaps a way to change the system-wide tooltip background color?
[23:20] <LeCurieux> hi to all
[23:20] <salty> or 'xset -dpms'
[23:20] <LeCurieux> i'm new on xubuntu
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> salty, that won't be permanent
[23:20] <salty> i know but i don't use 11.10
[23:20] <LeCurieux> if someone can help a frenchy !!!
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> whats that mean?
[23:21] <MahaVishnu> !fr
[23:21] <Escherial> forceflow: actually, argh, just changing the theme from "radiance" to something else improved the situation dramatically (light-blue background instead of black)
[23:21] <LeCurieux> it's about alsa and multiple usb sound cards
[23:21] <wh1zz0> Damn!.. So happy
[23:21] <Escherial> i may change over to sun's jvm if i encounter problems, but it seems like openjdk is working well enough for now
[23:21] <lsv> Matt040804: I think a clean install would erase everything you have on the hard drive.
[23:22] <Matt040804> lsv: yeah, but if I copy it to a USB drive first?
[23:22] <forceflow> Escherial: strange ... well, glad it helped
[23:22] <forceflow> Escherial: are you running eclipse from the repos or the latest version from site?
[23:22] <Matt040804> lsv: I badly messed up my python install and can't figure out how to fix it so I'm planning on doing a reinstall
[23:22] <Escherial> from the repos, i believe
[23:22] <zerobyte> someone knows how to create a GROUP directives for my NFS shares?
[23:22] <forceflow> Might be interesting to download the latest version (it's just unzipping to a folder and running it) to check
[23:22] <LeCurieux> i try to make a 8 tracks studio with 4 usb cards
[23:23] <lsv> Matt040804: why not just uninstall python then install it again?
[23:23] <forceflow> As long as you select a different workspace folder, it won't interfere with the other eclipse(s) you have running :)
[23:23] <LeCurieux> If someone can help me ?
[23:23] <Matt040804> lsv: I did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall python"
[23:23] <Matt040804> lsv: but it doesn't fix the problem. I think it stems from several versions ago when I tried installing python 2.7 alongside 2.6
[23:24] <lsv> Matt040804: maybe 'sudo apt-get purge python'?
[23:25] <Escherial> forceflow: interesting idea, i'll try it when i get a moment :) thanks for the help, by the way
[23:25] <lsv> Matt040804: the man page says that it will remove configuration files...  maybe that would fix it?
[23:25] <Matt040804> lsv: I'm giving it a try, it just vomited tons of info to my terminal
[23:26] <Matt040804> lsv: looks like it's going to mess with about half the packages on my system
[23:26] <forceflow> Escherial: no problem
[23:26] <lsv> Matt040804: then you better not mess with it.
[23:26] <Matt040804> lsv: Last ditch effort. I'm going to reinstall anyway at this point, unless something fixes my problem
[23:27] <lsv> Matt040804: I don't know that much and I would feel bad if I ruin your computer.
[23:27] <Matt040804> lsv: Someone in the python channel recommended something similar, so don't feel too bad
[23:27] <Matt040804> lsv: I'm sure nothing will happen to the hardware, and that's what matters
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> python is like required for ubuntu now then I guess Matt040804
[23:28] <pfew> guys I have a problem
[23:28] <Matt040804> MahaVishnu: I know, that's probably why it's so hard to fix
[23:28] <lsv> Matt040804: oh ok :)
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> Matt040804, yea Idk either ;\
[23:28] <pfew> I set bios settings to default and it has damaged ubuntu O think
[23:28] <pfew> I
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> pfew, whats wrong exactly?
[23:29] <pfew> Instead of starting up it says busybox
[23:29] <pfew> multi-cell binary
[23:29] <pfew> And it asks for commands or something
[23:29] <pfew> It wont boot into linux
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> gotta go fix my bathroom tile someone will help you.
[23:30] <pfew> ok
[23:30] <kkerwin> Hi. When I start my NFS server, I receive the following error message: "exportfs: *** does not support export". Any idea why this is, and what I can do to fix it?
[23:31] <salty> pfew setting bios won't damage the harddrive... but it might not be booting from the harddrive... go back into bios and set boot lineup to your harddrive
[23:32] <pfew> it is
[23:32] <arcsky> if i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd
[23:32] <pfew> I even selected it from grub
[23:32] <salty> hmmmm....
[23:32]  * salty is thinking
[23:33] <slugzzz> Hey all. So, it seems that after the newest updates in 11.10, my m15x begins to have issues with logging out unexpectedly, especially when browsing the internet.
[23:33] <shade34321> I was wondering if you anyboby could tell me what this command does, was asked about it today. cat temp >> more
[23:34] <SunTsu> shade34321: man cat - >> is redirection of standard outout into a file, which is not removed but appended to
[23:35] <somsip> shade34321: it adds the content of the file "temp" to the end of the file "more"
[23:35] <slugzzz> Actually, the same logout issue seems to be happening in 10.04 when the latest updates are installed, as well.
[23:36] <shade34321> so it essentially does the same thing as cat temp > more
[23:36] <arcsky> none know?
[23:36] <shade34321> or is it different?
[23:36] <SunTsu> shade34321: no, > creates a new file, >> appends
[23:36] <shade34321> gotcha
[23:36] <shade34321> so if i do cat temp > more it own't create the file but >> will and append it
[23:36] <arcsky> if i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd
[23:37] <SunTsu> shade34321: with > you'd kill whatever is in the target file, with >> you don't but append to that file
[23:37] <shade34321> ok...thanks:)
[23:38] <TACPILOT> what package is the equivalent of rhel's filesystem package ?
[23:38] <pfew> salty: you there?
[23:38] <shade34321> apt?
[23:38] <TACPILOT> contains the basic directory layout for a Linux operating system, including the correct permissions for the directories.?
[23:39] <salty> pfew , http://askubuntu.com/questions/44286/busybox-error-on-boottry this
[23:39] <salty> pfew , http://askubuntu.com/questions/44286/busybox-error-on-boot try this
[23:41] <salty> brb... need food
[23:41] <pfew> salty food?
[23:41] <SunTsu> TACPILOT: that'd be base-files I guess
[23:42] <pfew> question.... can you have wine programs run at startup of ubuntu?
[23:43] <SunTsu> pfew: sure
[23:43] <shade34321> last question...what does cat temp | more do?
[23:43] <TACPILOT> tnx .. I will take a look
[23:43] <lsv> shade34321: show the content of temp one screen at a time
[23:43] <SunTsu> shade34321: | pipes standard output of the first program into standard input of the second program. But that's all basics, not ubuntu support
[23:44] <progre55> hi guys. how do you disable samba (smbd) so that it doesnt autostart?
[23:44] <lsv> shade34321: If you want to learn more about bash there is a channel just for that #bash
[23:44] <shade34321> just wanted to make sure
[23:45] <shade34321> they were interview questions...so i figured id ask online..and the >> i couldn't find on google...thanks for the help
[23:46] <SunTsu> progre55: man update-rc.d
[23:46] <progre55> SunTsu: well I tried "sudo update-rc.d smbd disable" didnt help
[23:47] <progre55> smbd lives in /etc/init/ not /etc/init.d/
[23:47] <SunTsu> progre55: Never used samba on ubuntu, but maybe there's more than one rc script for it, at least there's many, many serv ices
[23:47] <SunTsu> smbd, nmbd, winbindd and so on
[23:48] <progre55> well I guess I'll just rename the /etc/init/smbd.conf file to smth else, so that it doesnt end with .conf
[23:48] <progre55> but I'd like to have the option to start it when I need, without having to rename it, etc.. just not on autostart
[23:49] <SunTsu> progre55: maybe there's a meta script called samba, too
[23:49] <arcsky> if i want somethign when users login to my ssh server how do i do that ? itdoesnt work with motd
[23:49] <trism> progre55: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/smbd.override;
[23:49] <progre55> SunTsu: nope, the default conf is in /etc/default/samba
[23:49] <trism> progre55: if this is 11.04+
[23:50] <progre55> trism: 11.10
[23:50] <progre55> thanks, let me have a look at it
[23:50] <slugzzz> So... question, all... what would you recommend for ubuntu as a "backup tool" that takes "snapshots" of your current machine state so that you can revert to it later.
[23:50] <slugzzz> Sort of like Apple's "time machine"?
[23:50] <progre55> trism: awesome, appreciate!
[23:51] <SunTsu> slugzzz: using a file system that supports snapshots, like btrfs
[23:51] <slugzzz> How about "flyback" anyone used it?
[23:52] <chz|bacon> progre55: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/pam_motd.html
[23:52] <chz|bacon> looks cool too
[23:52] <progre55> chz|bacon: weather-util? what's that?
[23:53] <chz|bacon> displays the local weather when you login via ssh
[23:54] <progre55> and I need it because..?
[23:54] <progre55> chz|bacon: well thanks anyways =) I'll keep it in mind
[23:54] <chz|bacon> but in essence you could use it to display other information
[23:54] <SunTsu> chz|bacon: maybe you were trying to talk to arcsky?
[23:55] <chz|bacon> doh yeah sorry shiz
[23:55] <progre55> I was asking about samba autostarting, but thanks =)
[23:55]  * chz|bacon slaps himself
[23:55] <progre55> happens :)
[23:55] <chz|bacon> lines
[23:55] <chz|bacon> text spewing, reading, researching my own problem... blah
[23:56]  * chz|bacon offers free beers to all for their understanding :P
[23:56]  * progre55 gets one
[23:57] <SunTsu> chz|bacon: btw. I already put arcsky on track of pam_motd.so
[23:57] <genjix> ok guys, i was defending Unity before because i assumed that Canonical knows what it's doing more than us hackers. but after trying it with my friend who is a new linux user since yesterday and my mum: i hate it, the entire geek community hates it, my mum hates it, my friend hates it.
[23:58] <genjix> unity is a failed experiment.
[23:58] <genjix> linux mint has overtaken ubuntu on distrowatch
[23:58] <chz|bacon> ahh so you don't want samba to autostart progre55 ?
[23:58] <genjix> unity == shit
[23:58] <m4v> genjix: try gnome shell.
[23:58] <genjix> i was supportive before.
[23:58] <chz|bacon> SunTsu: +1 you're a winner :)
[23:58] <pilouf> genjix: +1
[23:58] <progre55> chz|bacon: no, the other way around =) and trism already helped me out :)
[23:58] <genjix> but after testing with people, i cannot ignore the results
[23:59] <progre55> chz|bacon: thanks
[23:59] <m4v> genjix: and get a grip, this channel isn't for complain about it.
[23:59] <genjix> free advice
[23:59] <genjix> a complaint would be blaa blaa i didn't get my money's worth
[23:59] <SunTsu> I only knew of it because of http://deadmemes.net/2010/10/19/fear-and-loathing-in-debianubuntu-or-who-needs-etcmotd/ - which is equally funny and true
[23:59] <genjix> i am switching to linux mint or arch in the future.