[02:44] <ScottL> micahg, i grossly underestimated the work involved in updating the packages
[02:44] <micahg> heh, that's ok, you can do it little by little
[02:45] <ScottL> i had been focusing solely on the specific changes needed to transform the xubuntu packages to ubuntu studio packages but forgot about all the packaging changes as well
[02:46] <ScottL> please do not wait on me at this point to update the meta package if it is acutely needed
[02:46] <ScottL> otherwise i can certainly commit to having this completed, reviewed, and tested by this friday
[02:47] <micahg> yeah, we can reupload then, I just want to get this package built on armhf (-meta), I thought you were making seed changes to the apps
[02:48] <ScottL> oh, yes, i was planning on doing that as well
[02:48] <ScottL> but i will need to update the seeds for the -settings changes as well though
[02:48] <micahg> can we get that part done tonight?  no big deal either way
[02:48] <micahg> it's fine you can do everything later this week
[02:49] <ScottL> micahg, i probably need to wait until the -settings are changes, otherwise it will probably break a few things (like text editor and file manager)
[02:49] <ScottL> s/changes/changed
[02:49] <micahg> is anything broken ATM that needs a -meta change?
[02:49] <ScottL> nothing _too_ serious at this point
[02:50] <ScottL> missing a text editor and a bug report on the network manager
[02:50] <ScottL> but both should be fixed with the -settings update
[02:50] <micahg> heh, ok
[02:58]  * ScottL was busy making jelly sandwich sans crust cut into one rectangle and two squares for son...he's pretty specifically demanding :P
[02:59] <ScottL> micahg, i'm really sorry to have made you wait and then need more time
[03:02] <micahg> ScottL: not a problem (I'm not using it anyways :))
[03:05] <micahg> I'll upload later tonight, no worried
[03:05] <micahg> *worries
[08:25] <micahg> TheMuso: any idea why core-dev con't commit to ubuntustudio branches anymore?
[08:26] <micahg> or were they never able to
[08:26]  * micahg needs to update the seed before uploading...
[08:38] <micahg> anyone up with commit access to the ubuntustudio-dev repo?
[08:38] <micahg> s/repo/branches/
[09:15] <astraljava> micahg: Yes.
[09:16] <micahg> astraljava: can I give you a merge for the seed branch?
[09:16] <astraljava> micahg: Absolutely.
[09:19] <micahg> astraljava: https://code.launchpad.net/~micahg/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.precise-fix-ttf-to-fonts-renames/+merge/85302
[09:21] <astraljava> micahg: On it. Just one thing; is there an easier way to merge this, rather than merging locally and then pushing? I mean, does LP provide some functionality for this?
[09:22] <micahg> astraljava: no, you have to merge locally then push AFAIK
[09:22] <micahg> you can merge directly into the checkout, you don't need to checkout both branches separately
[09:37] <astraljava> micahg: Ok, thanks. Work got in the way. I'll get back on this within 15 minutes.
[09:39] <micahg> astraljava: thanks, whenever, I can always do it in the morning if I don't get to it before bed
[09:42] <astraljava> micahg: Ok, merged and pushed. Doesn't show up in LP yet, for some reason.
[09:42] <micahg> it takes up to 2 min to scan teh branch I think
[09:42] <astraljava> Ok.
[09:43] <astraljava> Oh, crap.
[09:43] <micahg> what?
[09:43] <astraljava> I thought it was updated, but apparently wasn't.
[09:43] <astraljava> Forgot to do it now.
[09:43] <astraljava> I need to revert that.
[09:45] <astraljava> I wonder why it let me do that, in the first place, though.
[09:45] <astraljava> I thought git wouldn't, but could be wrong.
[09:45] <micahg> do you have --overwrite set somewhere?
[09:46] <astraljava> I hope not.
[09:49] <astraljava> meh... revert does nothing.
[09:50] <astraljava> Gotta head up to #bzr
[09:52] <micahg> astraljava: you have to uncommit and revert
[09:53] <astraljava> micahg: Ahh... okay let me try that.
[09:56] <astraljava> micahg: Okay, uncommit gives me a command "bzr pull . -r revid:astraljava@kapsi.fi...", I use that to restore the situation prior to merge push?
[09:56] <micahg> astraljava: no, just revert
[09:56] <astraljava> OK.
[09:57] <micahg> that command will repull the commit that you uncommitted
[09:57] <astraljava> Well now it complains that the commit doesn't exist in branch anymore.
[09:57] <astraljava> Plain revert?
[09:57] <micahg> yeah
[09:57] <micahg> what's the issue now?
[09:58] <astraljava> No, sorry, I was trying to revert that commit id, but plain works.
[09:58] <astraljava> Do I need to commit the revert, or can I just update now?
[09:59] <micahg> astraljava: just update
[09:59] <astraljava> micahg: Well, it seems to have forgotten Colin's commit anyway. :(
[10:00] <astraljava> Damn, this was not fun.
[10:00] <micahg> ah right, the branch is there, but hidden, you might want to ask in #bzr
[10:00] <micahg> astraljava: or you can bzr pull my branch
[10:01] <astraljava> micahg: Yeah, I asked on #bzr, let's see if they come up with a solution. If not, I'll use your branch.
[10:01] <astraljava> Sorry for the mess.
[10:01] <astraljava> I need to work on some safety features, cause I mostly work on git, and it doesn't let this sort of thing happen.
[10:02] <micahg> astraljava: bzr doesn't  let you either by default, maybe your config is set to overwrite
[10:03] <astraljava> micahg: Where is that config? In $HOME/.bzr?
[10:03] <micahg> .bazaar I think
[10:03] <knome> astraljava, find that at the indian bazaar of oulu
[10:04] <astraljava> knome: Good idea! I'm craving for some indian food anyway.
[10:04] <knome> :)
[10:04] <knome> haha
[10:04] <knome> i was wondering what the store owners looked like if you asked them "where is the bazaar config file?"
[10:05] <astraljava> "It is IMPERATIVE I don't have overwrite anywhere!"
[10:05] <astraljava> I might get my face stuffed with naan bread.
[10:05] <knome> that would be nice, actually
[10:06] <astraljava> Yeah, just would have to ask for some garlic butter and cheese to go with that.
[10:15] <knome> they probably have some kind of "cheese" in it already: http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/2011/12/11/
[10:17] <astraljava> Is opening that link gonna ruin my appetite for naan forever?
[10:19] <knome> no. cheese.
[10:19] <astraljava> Oh, even worse.
[10:19] <knome> ha
[10:45] <astraljava> micahg: It should be fixed now.
[10:45] <astraljava> micahg: All you have to do is use pull --overwrite the next time, as otherwise it'll complain about diverged branches.
[10:45] <astraljava> That goes for everybody, though.
[10:46] <astraljava> Again, sorry for the mess.
[10:49] <micahg> astraljava: it shouldn't
[10:50] <micahg> astraljava: right you did it fine :)
[10:50] <micahg> no conflicts
[10:51] <micahg> the reason is since I still had the original commits in the proper order in my branch, when you pulled it, it restored the history
[10:51] <astraljava> Yep, all thanks to mgz on #bzr.
[10:51] <astraljava> Yeah. Well, now I know how to fix that if it happens again.
[10:51] <micahg> since I'm reluctant to do a -meta upload right before bed, I'll do this in the mornin
[10:51] <micahg> astraljava: thanks for the merge
[10:52] <astraljava> micahg: Sure, no prob. I don't think we're that much in a hurry.
[10:52] <astraljava> Thanks for your changes!
[10:52]  * micahg will ask about commit rights in the morning
[11:39] <astraljava> micahg: Who is granting them?
[12:20] <astraljava> So what's people using for auto-tagging of mp3s and oggs these days? I used to use EasyTag, but it's not in the archives anymore.
[13:29] <scott-work> good morning
[13:29] <knome> hey
[13:30] <scott-work> hi knome, i haven't really done anything on the website for the past week
[13:30] <knome> no problem
[13:30] <scott-work> i expect that to continue this week as i'm working through the theming right now
[13:30] <knome> haven't had time to think that either
[13:30] <scott-work> but this coming weekend i really want to make a major push to get it into some sort of "completed" state
[13:31] <scott-work> or close thereof
[13:31] <knome> yeah, would be good
[13:31] <knome> i was just looking at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-xubuntu.html
[13:31] <knome> ugh
[13:31] <scott-work> by "completed" i mean that pages exist and the content is in them and have made a real attempt to make it look nice
[13:31] <scott-work> knome: do you have a lot of actions yet to complete?
[13:32] <knome> 9
[13:32] <scott-work> oh, i see
[13:32] <scott-work> lot's of read
[13:32] <scott-work> errr, red
[13:32] <knome> the whole xubuntu team more...
[13:32] <knome> yeah, but most of the red action items are trivial
[13:32] <knome> but still
[13:32] <scott-work> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio.html
[13:32] <knome> i'd like to see green under the baseline
[13:32] <knome> looks much better
[13:33] <scott-work> ours isn't too bad and i need to update a few items as "DONE" as well
[13:33] <knome> though you have a smaller "inprogress"-state
[14:27] <scott-work> astraljava:  funny thing happened after teh meeting yesterday, i get an email from the libre graphics people saying that they _would_ be getting information to me about graphic design :)
[15:40] <astraljava> scott-work: Excellent news!
[16:04] <scott-work> astraljava: it is!  i'm quite surprised actually and happy/relieved
[17:19] <falktx_> hey quadrispro
[17:19] <quadrispro> ehy falktx_ !
[17:19] <quadrispro> hi all
[17:19] <falktx_> quadrispro: got a minute?
[17:19] <astraljava> Hi Alessio!
[17:19] <quadrispro> falktx_, just a minute yes
[17:19] <quadrispro> hi astraljava !
[17:20] <falktx_> quadrispro: I release my tools (Cadence) some days ago, and I already have a basic debian folder set-up for the PPAs. Any chance it makes into Debian?
[17:21] <falktx_> UbuntuStudio would surely appreciate it
[17:21] <falktx_> quadrispro: the tools are in http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/KXStudio:Applications , check Cadence and below
[17:23] <falktx_> quadrispro: my (crappy) debian sources are here - https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/+files/cadence_0.1.0%7Ealpha1%2Bgit20111206-0%7Elucid3.tar.gz
[17:23] <quadrispro> havinng a look, hold on :)
[17:24] <falktx_> sure, I'll be here for a while
[17:58] <micahg> astraljava: ScottL and TheMuso are team admins
[17:58] <astraljava> Oh okay.
[19:08] <micahg> scott-work: would it be possible for me to get commit access to the ubuntu studio branches?  also, is there a reason that core-dev doesn't have access?
[19:09] <scott-work> micahg: absolutely you can have commit access, although i am unsure how except to add you to the ubuntustudio-dev team
[19:09] <micahg> scott-work: yeah, that'll do it
[19:10] <scott-work> i think the core-dev's didn't want the spam from the ubuntustudio-dev team bug reports for the package set
[19:10]  * micahg tried to update a seed last night
[19:10] <scott-work> ^^^ that's pure speculation as i seem to recall some email from colin about this
[19:10] <micahg> scott-work: ah, ok
[19:11] <shnatsel> Launchpad needs more muting options for sure.
[19:11] <scott-work> micahg: i can add you right now to the team, would you like me to do this?
[19:11] <micahg> scott-work: sure, thanks, (doesn't have to be right this second)
[19:12] <scott-work> micahg: done
[19:12] <micahg> scott-work: thanks
[19:12] <scott-work> :)
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