[14:13] <thelinuxer> hi seif
[14:13] <thelinuxer> hi seiflotfy1
[15:03] <seiflotfy1> hi thelinuxer
[15:04] <thelinuxer> seiflotfy1: you asked me something about the council yesterday
[15:04] <thelinuxer> i was away then u were away and i had to leave
[15:04] <thelinuxer> you want to discuss it now ?
[15:05] <seiflotfy1> i want to run ofr council
[15:05] <thelinuxer> what's an ofr council ?
[15:06] <seiflotfy1> *for
[15:06] <thelinuxer> yes that's what u wrote yesterday
[15:06] <thelinuxer> here is the thing
[15:06] <thelinuxer> i believe in your abilities and i would seriously give u my vote in open elections
[15:07] <thelinuxer> the case for the first council is a little different
[15:07] <thelinuxer> people would ask why did u put him the council ?
[15:07] <thelinuxer> because most people don't actually know u
[15:07] <thelinuxer> i don't think it will be a reward for the council members or anything
[15:08] <seiflotfy1> i was thinking of writing an email
[15:08] <thelinuxer> but i don't want to cause bad morale among the team
[15:08] <seiflotfy1> and let them vote
[15:08] <thelinuxer> look the first council is mostly there is initiate the process
[15:08] <seiflotfy1> oh i am not taling about the first council u are forming
[15:08] <thelinuxer> they won't be the end of it
[15:08] <thelinuxer> that*
[15:08] <seiflotfy1> i am talking after the 4 months
[15:08] <thelinuxer> sure tab3an!
[15:09] <thelinuxer> all approved loco members will be able to enter the elections
[15:09] <thelinuxer> but we will not start any voting now
[15:10] <seiflotfy1> oh
[15:10] <thelinuxer> the council will approve the members and create the initial documents
[15:10] <seiflotfy1> can  i still write an email candidating myself
[15:10] <thelinuxer> and then we will have elections
[15:10] <thelinuxer> i think it will confuse the team
[15:10] <thelinuxer> if u want to nominate urself i think it should be something near the elections
[15:11] <thelinuxer> so u just have to wait a couple of month
[15:11] <seiflotfy1> why rnt the ppl on irc
[15:11] <thelinuxer> I tried a few times to encourage people to use irc
[15:12] <thelinuxer> but simply people don't use it ..
[15:12] <seiflotfy1> very sad
[15:12] <thelinuxer> to be frank about the elections
[15:12] <seiflotfy1> i hope the council uses it
[15:13] <thelinuxer> most probably the members will be approved depending on their joining date and amount of activity
[15:13] <thelinuxer> i guess ur safe at the joining date point
[15:13] <seiflotfy1> the idea is i think i can help out a lot
[15:13] <thelinuxer> i know ur activity is low because ur far away and simply most of our stuff is offline
[15:13] <seiflotfy1> i get invited to each uds
[15:14] <thelinuxer> yes there is a small legal issue
[15:14] <seiflotfy1> and i have a very good relationship with jono :)
[15:14] <thelinuxer> and seriously we don't want to make exceptions
[15:14] <seiflotfy1> plus i am the first egyptian ubuntu member :)
[15:14] <thelinuxer> for u to be able to nominate urself u have to an approved member
[15:14] <thelinuxer> yes i know all this
[15:15] <thelinuxer> but the membership most probably will depend on ur activity in the team
[15:15] <thelinuxer> that's what we discussed for far
[15:15] <thelinuxer> i want u to increase to contributions just a little bit
[15:15] <thelinuxer> ur*
[15:15] <thelinuxer> for people to know that ur actually part of the team
[15:15] <thelinuxer> ofr instance the ubuntu arabic day we wanted to do a while ago
[15:16] <thelinuxer> u were busy at that time
[15:16] <thelinuxer> can we organize it now ?
[15:16] <thelinuxer> it will be really nice contribution and will most probably get u approved
[15:16] <seiflotfy1> yeah
[15:16] <seiflotfy1> i got more time now
[15:16] <seiflotfy1> much more time
[15:17] <thelinuxer> tayeb we can arrange for a couple of days with sessions about open source projects, zeitgiest, ubuntu development
[15:17] <thelinuxer> whatever u would like to give
[15:18] <thelinuxer> and i believe  it would a gr8 addition and will be work that be acknowledged
[15:18] <thelinuxer> i am afraid without this we would have to make an exception for u, and again we don't want to do this even for me
[15:18] <seiflotfy1> its legitimate
[15:19] <seiflotfy1> problem is i already spend most of my time doing gnome, ubuntu, kde work
[15:19] <seiflotfy1> so when i get some time off i try to stay away from computer
[15:19] <thelinuxer> i know what u mean :)
[15:19] <thelinuxer> tayeb i want u to be responsible for this somehow
[15:19] <thelinuxer> i will help in the organization and u can do the talks
[15:20] <seiflotfy1> trust me its nice to be payed to do floss work but its very very exhuasting
[15:20] <thelinuxer> must be ...
[15:24] <seiflotfy1> yeah especially gnome
[15:34] <thelinuxer> seiflotfy1: anyhow ... tell me if we agree on the basics ?
[15:34] <seiflotfy1> we do
[15:34] <thelinuxer> that we shouldn't make any exceptions
[15:34] <seiflotfy1> +1
[15:34] <thelinuxer> that's gr8
[15:34] <thelinuxer> i will create a poll now to finalize this so that the council can start working
[15:35] <thelinuxer> or we will ditch the whole thing :)