[14:13] hi seif [14:13] hi seiflotfy1 [15:03] hi thelinuxer [15:04] seiflotfy1: you asked me something about the council yesterday [15:04] i was away then u were away and i had to leave [15:04] you want to discuss it now ? [15:05] i want to run ofr council [15:05] what's an ofr council ? [15:06] *for [15:06] yes that's what u wrote yesterday [15:06] here is the thing [15:06] i believe in your abilities and i would seriously give u my vote in open elections [15:07] the case for the first council is a little different [15:07] people would ask why did u put him the council ? [15:07] because most people don't actually know u [15:07] i don't think it will be a reward for the council members or anything [15:08] i was thinking of writing an email [15:08] but i don't want to cause bad morale among the team [15:08] and let them vote [15:08] look the first council is mostly there is initiate the process [15:08] oh i am not taling about the first council u are forming [15:08] they won't be the end of it [15:08] that* [15:08] i am talking after the 4 months [15:08] sure tab3an! [15:09] all approved loco members will be able to enter the elections [15:09] but we will not start any voting now [15:10] oh [15:10] the council will approve the members and create the initial documents [15:10] can i still write an email candidating myself [15:10] and then we will have elections [15:10] i think it will confuse the team [15:10] if u want to nominate urself i think it should be something near the elections [15:11] so u just have to wait a couple of month [15:11] why rnt the ppl on irc [15:11] I tried a few times to encourage people to use irc [15:12] but simply people don't use it .. [15:12] very sad [15:12] to be frank about the elections [15:12] i hope the council uses it [15:13] most probably the members will be approved depending on their joining date and amount of activity [15:13] i guess ur safe at the joining date point [15:13] the idea is i think i can help out a lot [15:13] i know ur activity is low because ur far away and simply most of our stuff is offline [15:13] i get invited to each uds [15:14] yes there is a small legal issue [15:14] and i have a very good relationship with jono :) [15:14] and seriously we don't want to make exceptions [15:14] plus i am the first egyptian ubuntu member :) [15:14] for u to be able to nominate urself u have to an approved member [15:14] yes i know all this [15:15] but the membership most probably will depend on ur activity in the team [15:15] that's what we discussed for far [15:15] i want u to increase to contributions just a little bit [15:15] ur* [15:15] for people to know that ur actually part of the team [15:15] ofr instance the ubuntu arabic day we wanted to do a while ago [15:16] u were busy at that time [15:16] can we organize it now ? [15:16] it will be really nice contribution and will most probably get u approved [15:16] yeah [15:16] i got more time now [15:16] much more time [15:17] tayeb we can arrange for a couple of days with sessions about open source projects, zeitgiest, ubuntu development [15:17] whatever u would like to give [15:18] and i believe it would a gr8 addition and will be work that be acknowledged [15:18] i am afraid without this we would have to make an exception for u, and again we don't want to do this even for me [15:18] its legitimate [15:19] problem is i already spend most of my time doing gnome, ubuntu, kde work [15:19] so when i get some time off i try to stay away from computer [15:19] i know what u mean :) [15:19] tayeb i want u to be responsible for this somehow [15:19] i will help in the organization and u can do the talks [15:20] trust me its nice to be payed to do floss work but its very very exhuasting [15:20] must be ... [15:24] yeah especially gnome [15:34] seiflotfy1: anyhow ... tell me if we agree on the basics ? [15:34] we do [15:34] that we shouldn't make any exceptions [15:34] +1 [15:34] that's gr8 [15:34] i will create a poll now to finalize this so that the council can start working [15:35] or we will ditch the whole thing :)