[00:13] <Shadow__X> hey guys what does found 6 off air channels mean
[03:58] <mrand> Shadow__X: I assume that means channels in your database which it did not detect a signal on.  But I could be wrong... I've never like the wording (or methods) of the channel scanner.  #mythtv-users would be the best way to confirm
[03:58] <mrand> Speaking of which, I was just about to fire up a scan to add my QAM channels back.  I was messing around with it the other week and something to hosed.
[04:11] <Shadow__X> mrand: yeah i tried to use scte65scan but it was not really helping me much
[04:11] <Shadow__X> so i did it manually
[04:11] <Shadow__X> i am about 80 percent done
[04:12] <Shadow__X> and blew through more time then i want to admin
[04:16] <Shadow__X> comcast should just not make changes
[04:48] <mrand> Shadow__X: I know the feeling.  I spent a good chunk of my saturday (9 days ago) cleaning up my channels, only to somehow mess something up because it wouldn't tune at all randomly.  Had to delete everything I'd done and just get OTA working before I left on a business trip at 5am the next morning.
[04:48] <mrand> Just now getting back to getting QAM back online.  I personallly think myth should be focusing more on finding ways to be the best streaming solution out there, but they seem caught up on tuner based stuff - which might not be so bad if it weren't such a huge chore.
[04:51] <Shadow__X> mrand: well the thing is sure this had a huge problem for me but it was working for around a year without me needing to touch it
[04:52] <Shadow__X> so honestly with how much i record i can deal with under 20 hours on maintenance over a 1 or so
[04:52] <Shadow__X> year
[05:21] <mrand> yeah.
[05:26] <superm1> mrand: yeah i'm starting to feel that in our current day and age tuners are turning into an old tech and streaming is the future
[05:26] <superm1> i am considering picking up a roku and playing with the mythroku private channel a bit to see if I can augment that as a frontend instead
[05:27] <Shadow__X> superm1: i know the myth devs have mythnetvision but when i have tried it it barely worked
[05:27] <Shadow__X> am i doing something wrong or is it just that bad?
[05:27] <Shadow__X> i currently use boxee when i want any web stuff
[05:28] <superm1> Shadow__X: yeah it doesn't support the big stuff i wanted it to support either
[05:28] <superm1> and it was a fairly bad experience
[05:28] <Shadow__X> ok i thought it was me
[05:29] <superm1> it comes with the territory though, if you're going to have closed source clients and protocols and undocumented APIs on all these other devices (apple tv, roku, google tv, boxee box etc) it's not going to improve on the open source stack
[05:29] <superm1> which is an unfortunate situation
[05:30] <Shadow__X> oh sure but even boxee on the same machine make its easier to browser youtube and the like
[05:30] <Shadow__X> i really wish there was netflix support in linux :(
[05:30] <superm1> oh yeah me too
[05:30] <superm1> and true on youtube + boxee
[05:49] <Shadow__X> i really want a hdhr prime
[05:49] <Shadow__X> and a hdpvr
[05:49] <Shadow__X> then more storage :)
[07:06] <Shadow__X> superm1: only the old roku does component right?
[07:17] <superm1> Shadow__X: i don't know for sure
[07:18] <superm1> Shadow__X: looks like it
[07:24] <Shadow__X> welp that stinks
[07:25] <Shadow__X> i have a sony kp 510ws that looks great with a xbox 360 going over component but when using a computer over component i get horizontal scan lines  and i cant use the dvi port on it
[17:05] <Unguided> Hello all. Newb question. If i set up mythbuntu and use a regular desktop, i can install other programs as well correct. IE: dhcp server, samba, network infrastructure to run of the myth box?
[17:06] <dekarl> sure, mythbuntu is basically plain ubuntu plus addons
[17:08] <Unguided> sweet. I figured if the box is gonna run all the time why not use the computer to its fullest. i was also worried about breaking myth. I dont suppose mtyhbuntu would handle the occasional virtual machine for testing purposes at the ssame time as running myth would it?
[17:09] <dekarl> Why should it be running all the time? You can configure automatic shutdown and wakeup if you like.
[17:09] <dekarl> I don't know anything about virtual machines, but adding some for testing on top of a beefy mythtv machine should be no problem
[17:12] <Unguided> I didnt know that but i havent gotten that far yet. i am running a quad core with 8 or 16 megs of ram depending on which computer i use.
[17:14] <Unguided> I believe that should be beefy enough or i could spplit the difference and make them both 12 megs of ram. either way they are both quad core.
[17:18] <Unguided> dekarl: thank you so much for your help. now i must sleep. i worked all night. yuck.
[17:20] <dekarl> gotta leave, too see you