[00:00] <Rar9> as said tomcat7 is already running fine.
[00:00] <Rar9> just need to add the solr 3.5...
[00:01] <Rar9> but the instruction on google have not gotten me any further....:-(
[01:35] <stgraber> hallyn: Cced you on the mail I sent to James Hunt with the proposed mountall change. Test here shows that it does what I want, at least in my test environment.
[01:36] <stgraber> (as in, container boots, mountall is triggered, goes through its list of mountpoints, detects that it should mount /dev but /dev contains some mountpoints and so skips it)
[02:22] <nonotza> how can I tunnel server requests through a proxy?
[02:30] <hallyn> stgraber: cool, thanks
[02:31] <hallyn> nonotza: depends what you mean, but perhaps ssh tunnels (ssh -L localport:remotehost:remoteport otherhost) will work for you
[02:41] <ntr0py> Is it possible to run x11vnc from xinetd?
[02:44] <twb> ntr0py: uh, that would be silly
[02:44] <twb> ntr0py: unless x11vnc is a server?
[02:44] <ntr0py> twb: why?
[02:44] <twb> You probably want x0rfbserver
[02:45] <ntr0py> twb: i dont quite get it why?
[02:45] <twb> OK, how about this: WHY do you want to run x11vnc from xinetd?
[02:47] <ntr0py> twb: because it always polls my xserver on :0 and wastes CPU, also GDM freezes my whole box if i log out of Gnome (i added x11vnc at the end of gmd/init/default)
[02:48] <twb> Do you need VNC to share the same session as the local user?
[02:48] <ntr0py> twb: i want it to connect to :0 via XDMCP only if i really use it and exit directly after i close connection
[02:49] <ntr0py> yes
[02:49] <twb> Hum.  Maybe you really do want to run it via xinetd.
[02:49] <twb> I can't think of a better solution
[02:50] <ntr0py> I tried but i always get "rfbNewClient: write: Broken pipe  "
[02:52] <twb> You probably need extra magic that I'm not familiar with
[02:52] <twb> Doign stuff via inetd is usually bad juju so I don't.
[02:53] <ntr0py> for fulltime services i agree but i only need it rarely for some admin stuff
[03:05] <twb> If you need a GUI to do administrative tasks, you are not a sysadmin and shouldn't be allowed to have a computer.
[03:05] <twb> Further, you would do better to ssh -X <stupid GUI tool> than to use VNC
[03:10] <ntr0py> When trying to run x11vnc via xinetd i ALWAYS get "rfbNewClient: write: Broken pipe" error message (i tried a zillion configs). Any ideas, what am i doing wrong ?
[03:11] <ntr0py> twb: yes i know those, and i do use them too but i really want a GDM login via x11vnc/xinetd
[03:12] <qman__> sorry, those are both technologies I avoid like the plague
[03:12] <qman__> old, configuration and security nightmare
[03:13] <ntr0py> yes if i could i would use NoMachine NX but its not an option i need vnc
[03:49] <Martyn> ntr0py : VNC Viewer’s default setting is auto-encoding selection, which means first use ZRLE and then switch to hextile if possible—that creates a problem
[03:49] <Martyn> ntr0py : Just pick one, and your rfb error might go away
[03:50] <ntr0py> Martyn: thanks i will try that
[03:50] <Martyn> i.e. vncviewer localhost:0 PreferredEncoding=Hextile
[03:52] <Martyn> twb : Your attitude is strange.   I'm an old, bearded, grizzled unix sysadmin and I /know/ there are packages out there that still resort to a UI for configuration.
[03:53] <Martyn> twb : Whether or not you use a UI doesn't make you a better or worse sysadmin.   Being knowledgable, patient, understanding when to use process and when to put it aside, and knowing the system you _are_ administrating does.
[03:55] <twb> Martyn: if the package requires a UI to configure it, the package is broken.  If it has plain text files, and you're using a GUI to configure it ANYWAY because you're too stupid not to, then you're broken.  End of story.
[03:56]  * Martyn raises eyebrows
[03:57] <Martyn> twb, please never, ever, ever come near any systems at CERN
[03:58] <twb> Heh, I bet they're all still hairy motif stuff
[03:58] <Martyn> not quite that bad, but you're not that far off.
[03:59] <Martyn> Some of those systems are still using software packages with a heritage from IRIX
[03:59] <Martyn> and of course, plenty of Microsoft to go around.
[03:59] <twb> And all the specialist equipment talks to a custom ISA to serial card which hasn't been made for ten years
[03:59] <Martyn> *snort*  heh, no
[04:00] <twb> That's what the astronomy stuff is like in .au
[04:00] <Martyn> Thats a pity
[04:00] <Martyn> The setup at CERN is actually very impressive...
[04:01] <Martyn> and it has to be, given what the accelerator does, and the massive amount of information they throw around
[04:01] <Martyn> they can't even keep all the data they generate.
[04:03] <ntr0py> sometimes i need to configure GUI software clients are using, ans sure they store their config in files/databases but i need to use the GUI for that
[04:03] <ntr0py> BTW:      server_args = -inetd -o /var/log/x11vnc.log -display :0 -env FD_GDM=1 -auth guess -rfbauth /root/.vncpasswd -shared -nomodtweak -noxrecord         with           wait = no        seems to work with xinetd ...
[04:04] <twb> ntr0py: oh, x11vnc has an -inetd argument?
[04:04] <ntr0py> yes
[04:04] <twb> ntr0py: I was assuming he'd have to roll that stuff by hand which was way below my care threshold
[04:18] <kaushal> Hi
[04:18] <kaushal> Any step by step guide to install rsyslog server on ubuntu Linux server 10.04 LTS ?
[04:19] <qman__> it's installed by default
[04:26] <twb> kaushal: rsyslog is the default
[04:29] <kaushal> ok
[04:30] <kaushal> twb: any wiki to setup linux clients to use rsyslog server ?
[04:30] <kaushal> any GUI web interface ?
[04:30] <twb> kaushal: uh, so you have two hosts, both running rsyslog, and you want one to speak syslog protocol to the other?
[04:31] <kaushal> basically a centralized rsyslog server and 100 linux clients connecting to this rsyslog server
[04:31] <kaushal> and a web interface to access it
[04:32] <twb> Well, to make them speak to one another you need...
[04:34] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/149059/
[04:36] <kaushal> twb: ok
[04:40] <twb> I also highly recommend commenting out this: $ActionFileDefaultTemplate RSYSLOG_TraditionalFileFormat
[05:01] <MTecknology> I decided my hardware sucks.
[05:01] <MTecknology> twb: apparently the cpu ond that atx board is embedded, and i apparently paid no attention when buying it
[05:02] <MTecknology> the chipset on the board is aweful too. I decided to buy some nice fast stuff including an LSI SAS Controller. :)
[05:03] <twb> MTecknology: I don't care
[05:04] <MTecknology> twb: of course you do
[05:21] <hallyn> stgraber: no attachment on the emails
[06:52] <tazmania> Why can't I run apache2 and n2n-supernode at system bootup?  What happen is that during system boots up, apache2 will fail to initialize.  If I remove n2n-supernode from the init.d scrip, then apache2 works.
[07:19] <SpamapS> tazmania: what is n2n-supernode ?
[07:20] <tazmania> SpamapS: n2n is a vpn and the server side is called "supernode". The client is called "edge"
[07:22] <SpamapS> tazmania: is it possible that n2n-supernode listens on the same port?
[07:24] <tazmania> I tried 2 ports, 8888 and 82 and apache2 failed to come up
[07:25] <tazmania> I use start-stop-daemon command to bring up the supernode and I used "update-rc.d supernode defaults" to create the autostart script
[07:26] <SpamapS> tazmania: surely one of them prints the problem they're having into log files.
[07:26] <SpamapS> tazmania: for apache2, I'd expect logs in /var/log/apache2/error.log
[07:26] <tazmania> it doesn't have any error
[07:27] <tazmania> I have checked
[07:27] <SpamapS> so it just exits for no reason?
[07:27] <SpamapS> tazmania: service apache2 start should at least give you a reason why it failed
[07:28] <tazmania> if I do it manually, /etc/init.d/apache2 start or restart, then it works
[07:28] <tazmania> If I remove the supernode from the auto start init script, apache2 works
[07:29] <SpamapS> tazmania: ok so perhaps apache2 needs n2n-supernode to already be started?
[07:30] <tazmania> Let me check the logs to see if I can find anything
[07:30] <tazmania> If I change the supernode script from "start-stop-daemon" to a plain "supernode -l 120 &", then apache2 works
[07:34] <SpamapS> tazmania: is it possible they're using thes ame pid file maybe?
[07:35] <tazmania> hmm.... there are two different application.  It should be very unlikely
[07:36] <tazmania> in the init.d script, apache2 should be called before supernode
[08:06] <mjau^> morns!
[08:06] <mjau^> I'm wondering about hte runlevels in ubuntu 10.04; I only know the sysV way..
[08:07] <mjau^> like, for instance, how do I check what runlevels a daemon will start on?
[08:53] <lynxman> morning o/
[09:01] <jamespage> morning all
[09:01]  * jamespage waves at lynxman
[09:03]  * lynxman waves back at jamespage :)
[09:07] <koolhead11> hi all
[09:53] <ewook> morning. I'm a bit lost. Need to 'extract' the last installed .deb files from apt (ie, from the cache), any pointers how to do that?
[09:55] <koolhead11> Daviey: sir
[10:01] <rbasak> ewook: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:09] <Daviey> koolhead11: hey
[10:12] <koolhead11> Daviey: how are things? i find channel very silent these days. :(
[10:17] <Daviey> koolhead11: really?
[10:17] <Daviey> Things seem to be good!
[10:19] <koolhead11> Daviey: cool. Seems like everyone relaxing after sprint :)
[10:21] <Daviey> koolhead11: I'd be quite suprised if people are that tired from the sprint..
[10:22] <koolhead11> Daviey:
[10:22] <koolhead11> :D
[11:56] <mjau^> anyone around?
[12:13] <RoyK> jau
[12:15] <koolhead11> !around
[12:37] <mjau^> on ubuntu 10.04, is there a way to list what services that will start with different runlevels?
[12:37] <mjau^> or should I simply do ls /etc/rc* | less?
[12:37] <mjau^> what I'm looking for is something like chkconfig --list
[13:32] <slakcphil> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1642641
[13:32] <slakcphil> this thread was marked solved
[13:34] <slakcphil> i know they are talking about the generic kernel, but what about 10.04's kernel? I am having similar issues with 10.04 server, getting same speeds using 3.0 pcix and a external hdd
[13:35] <slakcphil> 64bit DELL 2850 with 8 cofrfes
[13:35] <smoser> adam_g, from conversation yesterday... just fyi, the ec2-api-tools should be installable, they're just in multiverse, and multiverse is not enabled by default in stock images.
[13:35] <slakcphil> does anyone know if that was fixed or back ported?
[13:36] <patdk-wk> slakcphil, that would be a no
[13:36] <slakcphil> :(
[13:36] <patdk-wk> I seriously doubt it would be fixed in the stock lucid kernel
[13:36] <slakcphil> really? even the server edition?
[13:36] <patdk-wk> hmm, ya, security patchs are backported
[13:37] <slakcphil> how horrible is the idea of installing or compiling new kernel?
[13:37] <slakcphil> 2.6.37?
[13:37] <patdk-wk> just install a backport kernel
[13:37] <patdk-wk> from natty, or oneiric
[13:38] <slakcphil> how *safe* is that?
[13:38] <patdk-wk> heh?
[13:38] <patdk-wk> it's a kernel
[13:38] <patdk-wk> if you have a issue, reboot with a different one
[13:38] <slakcphil> yeah really
[13:39] <slakcphil> where is the official place to find that? not kernel.org right?
[13:39] <patdk-wk> to find what
[13:39] <slakcphil> the natty kernel
[13:39] <patdk-wk> apt-get
[13:39] <zul> mmmmmorgning
[13:40] <susman> Hi, trying to configure boot options for automatic network installation of 11.10 with preseed, language=en country=IL locale=en_US.UTF-8 is passed to kernel while booting, but for some reason installation process stops by "Configure locales" and waiting for human input.
[13:40] <susman> Also we have configured preseeding installation process for 10.10, with same configuration - works like a charm... is it bug in 11.10? is it known? any workaround?
[13:40] <slakcphil> oh ok, i will apt-cache search for it
[13:40] <patdk-wk> yep
[13:40] <slakcphil> thx, patdk-wk
[13:40] <lynxman> slakcphil: this might help https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/howtoinstalllinuxkernel2638onubuntu1004lucidfromubuntu1104nattytheeasyway
[13:41] <patdk-wk> slakcphil, apt-get install linux-image-server-lts-backport-natty
[13:41] <slakcphil> cool
[13:49] <filo1234> hi
[13:57] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+junk/openstack-tests
[14:31] <stgraber> hallyn: doh... sent
[14:44] <susman> Hi, trying to configure boot options for automatic network installation of 11.10 with preseed, language=en country=IL locale=en_US.UTF-8 is passed to kernel while booting, but for some reason installation process stops by "Configure locales" and waiting for human input.
[14:45] <susman> does anybody knows here something about linux? or everything beyond apt-get is forbidden for you?
[15:33] <zul> smoser: hey suppose we can swith the emi to ami on the cloud-publish tools
[15:34] <smoser> where?
[15:34] <smoser> oh in publish-tarball.. that would probably be a bad idea. if someone is actually using it in a programmatic way, it'd break them.
[15:34] <zul> image  : precise-server-cloudimg-i386.img
[15:34] <zul> Tue Dec 13 10:31:42 EST 2011: [15:34] <zul> Tue Dec 13 10:31:47 EST 2011: [15:34] <zul> Tue Dec 13 10:32:18 EST 2011: [15:34] <zul> emi="ami-00000004"; eri="none"; eki="aki-00000003";
[15:37] <smoser> yeah, dont you think that would break anything parsing that ?
[15:55] <zul> smoser: perhaps
[15:56] <smoser> it writes that to stdout. the intent was that you could do : cloud-publish-tarball ... > result && . result && echo "you now registered: $emi"
[15:56] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: ping
[16:24] <ewook> rbasak: Yeah thanks :p. a less on the files confused me at first, thus my question - but those are the files I was looking for ^
[16:24] <ewook> ^^
[16:25] <ewook> uvirtbot: And you, my botty friend, do not smile enough.
[16:25] <hallyn> smb: if you think just adding alias for nfs4 to nfs in modprobe.conf ia all that would be needed, I can suggest that in a debian bug and let them take it from there
[16:26] <smb> hallyn, Apreciated. Yes, its all that is needed
[16:26] <tyska> guys
[16:26] <tyska> i have 4 exactly same servers
[16:27] <tyska> there is some tool that just replicate the installation from 1 server to the others 3
[16:27] <tyska> ?
[16:27] <hallyn> smb: cool, thanks, will submit it then - ttyl
[16:27] <smb> hallyn, The problem for it is that mount.nfs4 is leading to a modprobe for a kernel module named nfs4 (which does not exist).
[16:28] <smb> If you probed it before or tell modprobe by an alias all is good
[16:30] <hallyn> heh, simpler than i thought.  thanks
[16:33] <moretti> ...
[16:33] <Error404NotFound> Not strictly related to ubuntu server, so feel free to ignore. My ubuntu server hosts abc.domain.com(IP: 1.1.1.1) where domain.com is hosted on another server. I have installed postfix and smtp is working fine. My question is: do i need to set 1.1.1.1 reverse dns? if yes, to what? domain.com or abc.domain.com?
[16:35] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh pong
[16:35] <tyska> guys
[16:35] <hallyn> tyska: well 15 years ago we used to just boot a minimal livecd and install with rsync over ssh.  The usual answers now seem to be preseeds and orchestra, but as for copying one config to another machine I'm not sure what's recommended
[16:36] <hallyn> tyska: (server meeting is going on, so wait 30 minutes and you may get more answers)
[16:37] <tyska> hallyn: i just need to install the 4 servers with ubuntu server, without any modifications
[16:40] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: is cloud-init expected to work with Cobbler from a Lucid system>
[16:40] <hggdh> ?
[16:41] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: meaning: Cobbled is based on an Oneiric, cloud-init is trying to contact it from a Lucid (and failing with timeouts)
[16:45] <hallyn> tyska: i'd recommend preseeding (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 and http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/03/ubuntu-server-quick-install-no.html)
[16:45] <hallyn> it's what i do for quick replicated test installs - but note that it's a bit finicky and limited
[16:46] <tyska> ok thanks hallyn
[16:47] <hallyn> np
[16:48] <drt24> hallyn: the uquick link is borken so following Dustin Kirkland's instructions won't work
[16:49] <edgy> Hi, kvm would crash my host when I make the guest full-screen and back (ctrl-alt-f twice)
[16:49] <edgy> hallyn: hi
[16:50] <drt24> kirkland: ping re uquick link being broken
[16:51] <hallyn> edgy: which qemu on what release, with waht window manager?
[16:51] <hallyn> edgy: (probably best to file a bug, though)
[16:52] <edgy> hallyn: yes, I want to file a bug but I am not sure whether it's specific to me or general; host and guest are kubuntu precise
[16:52] <edgy> I just want to confirm it first
[16:53] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: huh? cloud-init doe snot contact cobbler... cobbler feeds juju user-data and also meta-data through the preseed file
[16:53] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: err jujuprovides the user-data to cobbler, and cobbler feeds it to the machine throyugh the preseed
[16:53] <hallyn> edgy: oh, yeah, mightb e specific to you, but still good to record it i think, others may run into it
[16:53] <hallyn> edgy: using sdl?
[16:54] <edgy> hallyn: what files I need to attach to help debug it?
[16:54] <edgy> hallyn: yes
[16:54] <hallyn> 'ubuntu-bug qemu-kvm' should DTRT, if this is in fact kvm
[16:54] <hallyn> ok, lemme try under unity real quick (booting)
[16:57] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: Q came because all our profiles in the Lab use it, not only those juju-related
[16:58] <Ursinha> SpamapS: do you watch The Walking Dead?
[16:58] <hallyn> edgy: can't reproduce in unity on precise with a server guest image
[16:58] <Ursinha> SpamapS: there's a character that looks a lot like you
[16:58] <SpamapS> Ursinha: no, I have too many other television addictions, and I hear its really really good.
[16:59] <SpamapS> Ursinha: oh gee thanks for the compliment.
[16:59]  * SpamapS has always wanted to be a zombie
[16:59] <Ursinha> he's the most bad ass in the show haha
[16:59] <Ursinha> SpamapS: http://www.hypergeek.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Daryl_Dixon_promotional.jpg
[16:59] <SpamapS> Oh ahha I love that actor
[17:00] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: no, only the juju related profiles install the user-data and meta-data into the system. The other profiles only install cloud-init (well all machjines installs orchestra-client-, which also pull cloud-init)
[17:00] <Ursinha> hahaha
[17:01] <SpamapS> Ursinha: thats actually my evil twin. :)
[17:01] <edgy> hallyn: do you have a kubuntu desktop guest handy?
[17:01] <Ursinha> SpamapS: that explains :P
[17:02] <SpamapS> Ursinha: I was first told I looked a bit like him when people saw Boondock Saints.. another one where he's a badass. :)
[17:02] <Ursinha> SpamapS: you should make use of the fame haha
[17:03] <SpamapS> I haven't had anybody actually ask me directly, but walking around Hollywood, a few people have stared really hard
[17:03] <edgy> hallyn: I just replied to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-linaro/+bug/902237
[17:03] <hallyn> edgy: no, i don't
[17:03] <hallyn> ok - i'm out for a bit, back in a bit
[17:04] <hallyn> edgy: hm, I see, thanks for the comment.  biab
[17:05] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: i think hggdh is correct, on lucid systems cloud-init fires off during boot and polls the unreachable metadata service for however many minutes
[17:05] <Ursinha> SpamapS: at least for me you really look like him :) I was watching the series with that feeling "I've seen this guy before.." and one of these G+ hangouts made me realize that the guy was you hahahaha
[17:05] <SpamapS> haha
[17:05] <edgy> hallyn: how can I help you more?
[17:05] <SpamapS> Ursinha: I'll start bringing a shotgun to the hangouts just to make you feel less confused. :)
[17:05] <Ursinha> lol
[17:05] <Ursinha> good idea
[17:05] <kirkland> SpamapS: so I've just finished setting up irc-hybrid + supybot for logging ...  it's an all-in-one system, but what would you honestly think about a juju charm to do this?
[17:06] <hggdh> adam_g, RoAkSoAx: it tries for 100*10 seconds, blocking the boot progress
[17:06] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: can you pastebin the preseeds?
[17:06] <kirkland> SpamapS: I don't know how repeatable this setup is, I'm afraid
[17:06] <kirkland> SpamapS: but I've set it up once, and I don't really want to blow time on recreating this work again;  would much rather tweak a conf and juju-deploy
[17:06] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: one min
[17:06] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: but really, cloud-init cannot pull meta-data from cobbler
[17:07] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: the meta-data stuff was added only for oneiric, and its not pulling based.
[17:07] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: i know, but its trying to reach the ec2 metadata service
[17:07] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ls /root/ and what do you see there?
[17:07] <adam_g> because (i assume) the lucid cloud-init hasn't been updated since all of this stuff was added
[17:07] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: is it deploying with juju?
[17:08] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: I will have to reinstall with the original kickstart templates. This will take at least 30 min
[17:08] <hallyn> edgy: I'm leaving kubuntu-desktop installing so should be able to test this afternoon
[17:08] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: are you testing with juju?
[17:08] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: nope
[17:08] <hggdh> just cobbler
[17:08] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: i dont remember if i was doing a fresh ubuntu server or juju profile. this was on the QA lab, so you're welcome to test those
[17:09] <edgy> hallyn: good, I will follow the bug close awaiting for any advice, thanks
[17:09] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: what's int /root of the deployed system
[17:09] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: I will need to reinstall Lucid to check, as I stated above
[17:09] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ok ;)
[17:09] <edgy> hallyn: in kvm-spice how can I make it full screen to test this bug too?
[17:10] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: ok, will probbaly do it later tonight, i'll be on and off this week as i'm already on vacation :D
[17:10] <SpamapS> kirkland: sounds like it might be quite useful as a charm. :)
[17:10] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: actually, im 90% sure this was installing from the stock lucid-x86_64 profile
[17:10] <adam_g> ill fire off an install and check
[17:10] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: ok, let me know your findings
[17:11] <SpamapS> kirkland: I have a dream, where one day, users will judge a charm not by the task that it sets out to perform, but by the content of its hook scripts.
[17:11] <adam_g> hggdh: were you hitting this on the original UEC cluster? (santol, cempedak, etc)
[17:11] <hallyn> edgy: you could try http://people.canonical.com/~serge/qemu-kvm-spice_0.15.91-2011.11-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb to see if that's faster for you
[17:11] <hggdh> adam_g: no, on the Lab machines (rukbah, tarf, phact)
[17:11] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: if the orchestra.preseed is being in used, then nothing should be placing meta-data into de deployed machine for cloud-init
[17:11] <hallyn> for full screen - i dunno offhand, sorry.  maybe spice-gtk will do it?
[17:11] <hallyn> now, for real, biab :)
[17:11] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: if that's the case, then its cloud-init itself who's doing the request
[17:12] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: it was orchestra.pressed. It includes a snippet for cloud stuff, this was there
[17:12] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: so someone erroneously modified the preseed then :)
[17:13] <hggdh> the snippet is orchestra_client_package
[17:13] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: orchestra_client_package only installs cloud-init
[17:13] <RoAkSoAx> that snippet only install cloud-init
[17:14] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: but there's not meta-data nor user-data that cloud-init will seed from
[17:14] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: indeed. But cloud-init does not work with lucid, so there we are
[17:14] <edgy> hallyn: tried the ubuntu2 version but still same problem
[17:15] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ok so a quick fix would be for you to do the follow: edit /var/lib/cobbler/snippets/orchestra_client_package and remove cloud-init from there
[17:15] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: yes, its cloud-init ala lucid, polling the 169.254.169.254 metadata service, because it thinkts its in ec2
[17:15] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: yeah,  its cloud init itself  then :) not cobbler :)
[17:15] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: though the preseed installs cloud init
[17:16] <adam_g> right
[17:16] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: already did :-)
[17:16] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: :)
[17:16] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: hggdh I'll modify that in orchestra's orchestra_client_package snippet
[17:16] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: perfect, thank you. Do you want a bug on that?
[17:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: filing it already :)
[17:18] <edgy> hallyn: wait ...
[17:19] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: another one -- IDK, yet if the profile has been changed or not, installing a fresh cobbler locally meanwhile
[17:19] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: the orchestra.pressed has a late_command to chmod a powernap script
[17:20] <hggdh> there is no such script in Lucid
[17:20] <hggdh> so the d-i install halts on an error, needing user attention (press Enter, and install proceeds)
[17:24] <SpamapS> I'm still a bit nervous about orchestra pushing powernap onto servers by default.
[17:25] <SpamapS> After it offlined half the CPU's on our emerald ridge box at the ODS demo, and couldn't bring a bunch of them back online, it definitely makes me nervous.
[17:26] <edgy> hallyn: if I used -enable-kvm it boot quickly but when I login it would kick me out
[17:26] <zul> SpamapS: ditto
[17:27] <edgy> aha! biab = bak in a bit, ok then I will hfab (hang for a bit)
[17:28] <adam_g> SpamapS: to be fair, we didnt really need *all* those CPUs, did we?
[17:29] <SpamapS> adam_g: true, of the 40, we only needed 24 ;)
[17:31] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: can I see that preseed?
[17:32] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/769190/
[17:33] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: the script '/etc/pm/power.d/01cpu_online' does not exist for Lucid
[17:35] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: is that default install? cause in the orchestra branch that doesn't exist
[17:35] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: i believe that's manually been added by jamespage
[17:36] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: ah, this is it, then. I did not participate on the build-up. Cool
[17:36] <jamespage> RoAkSoAx, yes
[17:36] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: yeah then, but either if that chmod for powernap script fails, the installtion should continue to be successfull
[17:37] <RoAkSoAx> jamespage: and yeah in precise that has been fixed already. That script is not executable by default ;)
[17:37] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: it will, eventually. But D-I stops with an error message, and someone must get to the console and press Enter
[17:37] <jamespage> RoAkSoAx, going to SRU that to oneiric?
[17:37] <RoAkSoAx> jamespage: yes
[17:37] <jamespage> sweet
[17:39] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: try modifying it like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/769198/
[17:41] <hallyn> edgy: you log into kde on the guest?
[17:42] <hallyn> wonder if -vga qxl has a problem with that
[17:42] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: roger wildo
[17:42] <edgy> hallyn: I couldn't log into kde but I managed to log into unity with very very bad display
[17:42] <edgy> hallyn: I am trying to attach the Xorg log file
[17:45] <edgy> hallyn: done, please check the Out of surfaces errors there
[17:46] <hallyn> edgy: thanks
[17:49] <edgy> hallyn: btw definitely -vga qxl is the culprit because -vga std works well
[18:10] <smoser> zul, https://github.com/boto/boto/pull/432 was merged.
[18:10] <smoser> so, upstream boto now has 'ec2_connect_endpoint'
[18:10] <zul> sweet...congrats
[18:11] <smoser> i'm happy that eventually it wont be such a pita to connect to arbitrary ec2endpoint
[18:33] <mjau^> so, which is the preferred way in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:33] <mjau^> /etc/init.d/bind9 restart, or service bind9 restart?
[18:48] <smoser> mjau^, they'll end up being the same.
[18:48] <smoser> but 'service' is probably preferred as that will also work for upstartified jobs.
[18:49] <mjau^> smoser: hm, can you elaborate on the last part?
[18:50] <smoser> if a service has an upstart job, then it could potentially not work with '/etc/init.d/SERVICE' (although likely there is a wrapper script installed there that would make it work)
[18:50] <smoser> but if you use 'service service-name restart', it will invoke upstart restart if the job is upstart and init.d restart if init.d
[19:00] <adam_g> zul: ping
[19:00] <zul> adam_g: pong
[19:04] <adam_g> zul: ohhhh i see, openstack-dashboard package in the archive comes from the lp:ubuntu/precise/horizon source (not lp:ubuntu/precise/openstack-dashboard)
[19:04] <zul> adam_g: yeah because it got renamed
[19:07] <patrickmw> jamespage, I've given up trying to shove the square peg in the round hole with the jenkins dashboard.  I think its as good as it's going to get.  Any further extrapolation will require its own reporting mechanism
[19:07] <adam_g> zul: in any case, http://paste.ubuntu.com/769287/
[19:08] <zul> adam_g: lovely...can you open up a bug in launchpad please
[19:09] <adam_g> zul: sure
[19:10] <zul> adam_g: thanks
[19:12] <adam_g> zul: doh, its just a typo , ill send a fix
[19:20] <smoser> bug 903878
[19:20] <smoser> weee! hallyn ^
[19:24] <hallyn> but I'm sure you know how to fix it
[19:24]  * hallyn lives in optimism
[19:25] <smoser> i think it might have regressed with last upload
[19:25] <smoser> i'm verifying
[19:25] <smoser> but i think it worked previosly
[19:26] <hallyn> does 'virsh net-list' show default up?
[19:26] <smoser> well, shoot.
[19:26] <smoser> can't easily test.
[19:26] <smoser> i was thinkig my old cloud-image had libvirt and i could just test there (where i thought it worked before)
[19:26] <smoser> but it did not
[19:27] <smoser> did not have libvirt, and i couldn't easily get it from archive then.
[19:27] <hallyn> ?
[19:28] <smoser> i was trying to verify that it worked ~ a week ago
[19:28] <smoser> but my plan failed as i would have to get the older libvirt from the archive (and, surprise, not there :)
[19:28] <hallyn> ok i'll test on precise in a min
[19:28] <smoser> regarding virsh net-list, yes, i think up
[19:29] <smoser> hallyn, i'll give you access to a system in a minute
[19:30] <hallyn> smoser: WFM
[19:30] <hallyn> following your instructions to the letter
[19:30] <hallyn> precise updated this morning
[19:31] <smoser> you're confused.
[19:31] <hallyn> always
[19:31] <smoser> its not supposed to say "error: internal error"
[19:32] <smoser> hallyn, ubuntu@10.55.60.207
[19:32] <smoser> run byobu there so i can see
[19:33] <hallyn> no errors on my system at all.
[19:35] <hallyn> smoser: kernel
[19:36] <hallyn> you don't have veth
[19:40] <smoser> thank you, hallyn.
[19:41] <hallyn> np.
[19:42] <eagles0513875|2> hey guys im running ubuntu server. does anyone have experience setting up nagiosql i have it installed but when i come to use it and write changes it complains about permissions
[19:45] <eagles0513875|3> hey guys im running ubuntu server. does anyone have experience setting up nagiosql i have it installed but when i come to use it and write changes it complains about permissions
[19:55] <kaushal> Hi
[19:55] <kaushal> I am stuck with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1679536
[19:56] <kaushal> Any clue ?
[20:14] <kaushal> checking in again for the query ?
[20:22] <hallyn> kaushal: i'm no expert here, but i'd recommend ignoring the raid disks during install and setting them up after the fact.  you say you can install on the spare disk just fine, right?
[20:23] <hallyn> ppetraki: ^ in case you're looking for a diversion, raid install problem :)
[20:24] <ppetraki> hallyn, I already found one on the lvm mailing list :-p
[20:24] <ppetraki> hallyn, I can take a quick look though
[20:25] <hallyn> your cup overfloweth
[20:25]  * ppetraki scrollsback
[20:25] <hallyn> just http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1679536
[20:25] <hallyn> my guess is the asnwer is "don't do that", but...
[20:27] <ppetraki> RAID 5 as root, yeah, MD anyways, but a HW RAID should just work
[20:27] <ppetraki> unless it's fakeraid
[20:28] <ppetraki> looks like he quit
[20:28] <ppetraki> I think he's got the semantics wrong
[20:28] <hallyn> bah
[20:29] <ppetraki> trying to use iscsi installer to configure his onboard raid
[20:29] <ppetraki> if it's even an onboard raid
[20:29] <ppetraki> hallyn, http://ark.intel.com/products/46534/Intel-Server-Board-S3200SHV
[20:30] <ppetraki> hallyn, that might be the new Intel SAS controller, Patsburgh or fakeraid
[20:30] <ppetraki> hallyn, if it is PB, then 10.10 might not have the driver
[20:30] <ppetraki> hallyn, brand new scsi controller
[20:31] <hallyn> i'm confused - the link says it's EOL
[20:32] <ppetraki> hallyn, hmm missed that
[20:32] <ppetraki> hallyn, he just posted on ubuntu server
[20:33] <ppetraki> hallyn, yeah... need more info, initial impression is he has the semantics wrong. If he was really using iSCSI I would expect IP config details and affirmation like "I'm logging in to the target correctly" or what iSCSI SAN he's using
[20:34] <hallyn> ppetraki: ok - i was wanting to ask him to file a bug, but at the same time didn't want to steal helpful info for others from the forum site
[20:34] <hallyn> but, since he's gone, guess i'ts moot
[20:34] <hallyn> ppetraki: thx
[20:34] <ppetraki> hallyn, np
[20:38] <hallyn> edgy: running kde, maximize/unmaximize is not hurting anything for me
[20:57] <njin> Hello guys, can someone look at bug 902140 , thanks
[20:57] <njin> sorry, bug 903140
[20:58] <njin> In Ubuntu Desktop works, but not in server edition
[20:58] <njin> can someone explain why?
[21:35] <axisys> mount.nfs4 192.168.0.24:/share /mnt
[21:35] <axisys> mount.nfs4: No such device
[21:35] <axisys> what is wrong with mount command?
[21:42] <SpamapS> axisys: generally you would want to run 'mount -t nfs4 x.x.x.x:/share /mnt'
[21:42] <SpamapS> axisys: and actually on more recent releases, nfs4 is deprecated, its just 'nfs'
[21:43] <axisys> SpamapS: mount -t nfs worked
[21:43] <axisys> SpamapS: but how do I make sure it is nfs version 4
[21:43] <axisys> mount -t nfs4 worked too
[21:44] <SpamapS> axisys: -o nfsvers=4
[21:44] <SpamapS> axisys: thats from 'man nfs'
[21:45] <axisys> SpamapS: :-) .. should have read it first.. thanks a lot
[21:45] <SpamapS> axisys: any time, thanks for asking good questions. :)
[21:48] <hallyn> jdstrand: jjohansen: apparmor policy q in bug 903962.  (to be clear, we'd be extending the apparmor policy for libvirt, in main, to support spice, in universe - but not depending on spice)
[21:50] <jjohansen> hallyn: so the apparmor change looks fine to me, but I have never played directly with the libvirt apparmor driver, so I'll wait for jdstrand to comment
[21:59] <hallyn> smb: d'oh, debian already has 'alias nfs4 nfs' in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases.conf'
[21:59] <hallyn> jjohansen: thanks
[22:11] <hallyn> smoser: zul: any objection to my making qemu-kvm now Depend on kvm-ipxe?
[22:11] <hallyn> the one thing is it does slow down boot a bit to wait for ipxe...
[22:13] <hallyn> (and 'boot c' doesn't seem to stop it trying, to my chagrin)
[22:14] <zul> i dont have an opinon
[22:15] <smoser> soren, ^
[22:16] <smoser> hallyn, i hdont have any string disapproval of that.
[22:16] <smoser> could you/have you opened a bug upstream on "'boot c' still wants to boot from network"
[22:16] <smoser> or some such
[22:22] <hallyn> smoser: no, it only just occurred to me that's happening.
[22:23] <hallyn> hm, maybe it's not happening!
[22:24] <hallyn> maybe that was a bad hd
[22:24] <hallyn> (back in 30 mins)
[23:11] <Lcawte> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu server from a different machine (because it didn't like any install disk), then moved it downstairs, everything seems to be going ok, other than the network is broken, is there any way I can force ubuntu to automaticly reconfigure it (eth0 & eth1 are messed up in other words)
[23:13] <ChmEarl> Lcawte, its a udev *.rules things - check 7*-persistent-network.rules (not exactly sure)
[23:13] <hallyn> smoser: yeah all i actually get is 2-3 seconds of 'configure ipxe' - which is still annoying, though
[23:14] <ChmEarl> Lcawte, in the *.rule file your ethX name is tied to a MAC
[23:14] <Lcawte> Is there an easy way to force it to reset? Or will it be manual editing?
[23:15] <ChmEarl> Lcawte, delete the offending lines
[23:15] <ChmEarl> manual edit
[23:16] <Lcawte> Ok, where abouts are those files?
[23:16] <ChmEarl> /etc/udev*
[23:17] <ChmEarl> or better /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-*
[23:19] <ChmEarl> Lcawte, try grep -i eth0 /etc/udev/rules.d/*.rules
[23:23] <gavinc> hi folks, in a bit of pain. inherited a 6 server setup all running Ubuntu Server trying to make some sense of it's nfs setup, and none of the machines have UID/GIDs in common. Looking for the shortest path out of that :\
[23:25] <gavinc> Options seem to be: setup Kerberos KDC on one of them, setup openldap (with or without kerberos), try and get their passwd files in sync, or have a bunch of world rw nfs mounts around
[23:25] <gavinc> anyone have any other brilliant ideas :\
[23:29] <hallyn> smoser: zul: still around?
[23:30] <hallyn> soren: i intend to make qemu-kvm depend on kvm-ipxe in the next few days, any objection?
[23:43] <hallyn> ahs3: Daviey: I've opened bug 904014 fwiw :)
[23:45] <ahs3> hallyn: kewl.  you saw that the netcf update hit unstable, yeah?
[23:49] <hallyn> yup, just saw it a few mins ago, keep wiating for the FTBFS email :)
[23:49] <hallyn> (not really)
[23:50] <ahs3> heh
[23:51] <hallyn> RoAkSoAx: hm, you about?
[23:54] <kaushal> Hi
[23:54] <kaushal> Please suugest about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2011-December/006016.html ?
[23:55] <kaushal> suggest*
[23:57] <zul> hallyn: kind of
[23:58] <hallyn> zul: good enough, would you mind, when you get a chance, just doing 'syncpackage -d unstable spice'?
[23:59] <zul> hallyn: sure
[23:59] <hallyn> zul: tests fine on my precise laptop, and hopefully it'll fix a slowness with -vga qxl for edgy
[23:59] <hallyn> thanks
[23:59] <zul> edgy?