[06:21] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[06:55] <fulcrum> morning
[07:11] <superfly> morning
[07:12] <Squirm> morning
[07:14] <inetpro> Guten Morgen!
[07:15] <inetpro> Here's a nice writeup on "How to install Bugzilla with HTTPS on Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS Server" http://www.humans-enabled.com/2011/12/how-to-install-bugzilla-with-https-on.html
[07:22] <morgs> morning
[07:31] <superfly> morning inetpro, morgs, Squirm fulcrum and nuvolari :-)
[07:40] <fulcrum> hey superfly, you started the new jorb?
[07:47] <superfly> fulcrum: nope, still waiting for them to decide
[07:47] <superfly> hoping to at least know where I stand by the end of this week
[07:47] <fulcrum> ak 'k
[07:48] <fulcrum> hope it is favourable
[08:01]  * inetpro to
[08:02] <superfly> yeah... I'm kinda also looking for a few freelance bits to keep me going for the moment, so if anyone hears of someone needing some Python done, or a Drupal website, then I'm your man ;-)
[10:43] <Kilos> howdy superfly and all you others
[10:44] <Kilos> can someone please explain about lts to me. can one not use maverick say for the next 20 years
[10:44] <Kilos> what support actually falls away
[10:50] <Kilos> hi garaman 
[10:55] <garaman> Kilos: hi. 
[11:02] <superfly> Kilos: bug fixes and security fixes
[11:02] <superfly> Kilos: you can, but there won't be any new software or bug fixes
[11:02] <Kilos> but wont all that be sorted when support ends superfly 
[11:03] <superfly> Kilos: that's what happens when the support ends
[11:03] <superfly> then you don't get anything more
[11:03] <Kilos> apart from security updates of course
[11:03] <superfly> Kilos: when support ends, you get nothing... people won't even want to help you unless you upgrade
[11:04] <Kilos> oh does the software get taken off the repos?
[11:04] <superfly> yes
[11:04] <Kilos> oh my
[11:04] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[11:05] <superfly> Kilos: it might not happen immediately, but it happens eventually
[11:05] <Kilos> if one can then download the full repo and keep it then you should be ok for years
[11:06] <Kilos> not often one needs new software when you dont do much
[11:06] <Kilos> like i have all i need and its only 2.5g
[11:07] <Kilos> archives that is
[11:18] <inetpro> Kilos: as time goes people find holes in old software
[11:20] <Kilos> hi inetpro you mean for security
[11:20] <Kilos> bad guys you mean
[11:20] <inetpro> Kilos: yep
[11:21] <Kilos> eish
[12:44] <zeref> hmmmm
[12:44] <Kilos> hi zeref 
[12:44] <Kilos> is that thinking or clearing your throat
[12:49] <zeref> thinking :-)
[12:50] <Kilos> haha
[12:50] <Kilos> battling some?
[12:51] <zeref> trying to familarize? familarise? :P myself with arch linux
[12:51] <nuvolari> o/ lo oom Kilos 
[12:52] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[12:52] <bmg505> hello
[12:52] <Kilos> hiya bmg
[12:52] <bmg505> ekke soek polisie koffie, en 'n sterk ene
[12:52] <Kilos> grr
[12:52] <Kilos> bmg505, 
[12:52] <bmg505> min koffie, baie boerewyn
[12:53] <Kilos> steel gou iets dan sal jy baie kry
[12:54] <bmg505> lol
[12:54] <bmg505> eks reg vir die diewe die jaar, ons het 3 pepergas enhede in, gaan groot fun wees
[12:55] <Kilos> ek hhor op die nuus dis onwetig om pepergas nou by jou te dra
[12:55] <Kilos> en knipmesse ook
[13:10] <Kilos> later guys
[13:10] <Kilos> be good
[13:10] <nuvolari> die skelms raak skelmer, en die weerlose meer weerloos
[13:10] <nuvolari> meh
[13:10] <nuvolari> baai oom :P
[13:23] <fulcrum> Symmetria Symmetria wherefore art thou Symmetria 
[13:23] <fulcrum> shall I compare thee to a packet sniffer?
[13:23] <fulcrum> I am the syn and you are the ack
[13:24] <nuvolari>  % look for jobs                     
[13:24] <nuvolari> look: jobs: No such file or directory
[13:24] <fulcrum> ping timeout
[13:24] <fulcrum> man woman
[13:24] <fulcrum> No manual entry for woman
[13:25] <nuvolari> amen to that
[13:26] <inetpro> 29/11 00:01:55 <tumbleweed> inetpro: if nobody replies within a week or two, please remind me, and I'll poke people :)
[13:27] <inetpro> tumbleweed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/897436
[13:27] <inetpro> have had no feedback yet
[13:30] <tumbleweed> inetpro: I suggest you stick your nose into #ubuntu-x and ask
[13:34] <inetpro> tumbleweed: will do that, thanks
[13:34]  * tumbleweed is lurking there too
[13:35] <inetpro> tumbleweed: are there any ubuntu peeps in there?
[13:36] <inetpro> I mean like the kinds who will be willing to look at bugs on launchpad
[13:37] <tumbleweed> inetpro: the people who maintain those packgase hang out there
[13:39] <inetpro> great, thanks
[13:42] <tumbleweed> inetpro: of course, you may have a long wait...
[13:42] <tumbleweed> inetpro: did you get a chance to try the a precise alpha / daily CD?
[13:43] <inetpro> tumbleweed: have not tried it yet, no
[13:43] <inetpro> I'll try to download later tonight and will try it
[14:24] <inetpro> damn!
[14:25] <inetpro> I hate mobile rip off marketing firms
[14:26] <inetpro> please check your bills and make sure you do not have unknown entries in there
[14:28] <magespawn> howdy all
[14:29] <zeref> lo magespawn 
[15:06] <superfly> yo magespawn
[15:06] <magespawn> hay guys
[15:23] <magespawn> later all
[17:03] <zeref> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity
[17:03] <zeref> didnt know that there were so many linux distos
[17:43] <inetpro> zeref: the choice is yours
[17:44] <inetpro> but in the end ubuntu wins with the best community at #ubuntu-za 
[17:46]  * inetpro wants to try precise 
[17:46] <inetpro> where do I find the daily CD?
[17:57] <zeref> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[17:57] <zeref> hmmm, i want to try out Arch :-D
[18:04] <inetpro> zeref: thanks
[18:04] <inetpro> is there no local daily mirror?
[18:06] <inetpro> eish! At 24K/s this is gonna take a while
[18:20] <zeref> hmmm
[18:20] <zeref> i dont know
[18:24] <Kilos> yo all
[18:24] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:24]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:25] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[18:25] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[18:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie
[18:29] <Maaz> Groot plesier Kilos my vriend
[18:29]  * Kilos sits and sips my coffee on my own
[18:42] <zeref> o0o0 ubuntu 10.04 supported untill 2013
[18:42] <zeref> i can keeps my gnome 2.x
[18:45] <Kilos> lol
[18:45] <Kilos> maverick must then go 6 months further
[18:46] <zeref> april next yr
[18:46] <Kilos> no
[18:47] <Kilos> maverick is after 10.04
[18:47] <Kilos> 10.10
[18:47] <zeref> non Lts releases have 18 minths support
[18:47] <Kilos> next year is 2012
[18:47] <Kilos> oh my
[18:47] <Kilos> not 2 years
[18:47] <zeref> o0o0
[18:48] <zeref> once 12.04 comes out, it will be supported for 5 yrs
[18:48] <Kilos> ya but i scared of unity
[18:49] <Kilos> unless i uncapped by then
[18:49] <zeref> try another DE
[18:49] <zeref> xfce, KDE
[18:49] <Kilos> DE?
[18:49] <zeref> Desktop environment
[18:50] <Kilos> i have tried xubuntu
[18:50] <Kilos> dont like the menu stuff on the side
[18:50] <Kilos> i like the gnome look
[18:50] <Kilos> top and bottom panels
[18:50] <zeref> i'll try gnome and unity when they have matured more
[18:51] <nuvolari> o/ g'evening
[18:51] <Kilos> gnome 3 you mean
[18:51] <nuvolari> sheesh it's hot here
[18:51] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[18:51] <nuvolari> naand oom Kilos!
[18:51] <Kilos> hot everywhere
[18:51] <Kilos> 20 here tonight
[18:51] <Kilos> 20°C
[18:51] <Kilos> hehe it worked
[18:51] <zeref> nuvolari: where is here?
[18:52] <nuvolari> zeref: what do you mean where is here?
[18:52] <nuvolari> here! right here!
[18:52]  * nuvolari points
[18:52] <Kilos> he is north of durbs zeref ]
[18:52] <Kilos> ha ha
[18:52] <zeref> LOL
[18:52] <nuvolari> zeref: ballito
[18:52] <Kilos> jy slim vanaand nê
[18:53] <superfly> dis nogals 'n bietjie koud in die Kaap - dit reën (of het gereën)
[18:54] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in cape town south africa
[18:55] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[18:55] <Kilos> eish he lost the link again
[18:55] <nuvolari> we had so much rain already, but tonight I won't mind for a bit more rain
[18:55] <nuvolari> at least my folks in the free state got some rain last week
[18:57] <Kilos> yeah we had some too and they say more tomorrow
[18:58] <nuvolari> I hope it's overcast on thursday when I drive home
[18:59] <Kilos> yeah the sun in the eyes sucks
[19:01] <nuvolari> Kilos: oom, I'm worried more about the heat :P
[19:01] <Kilos> nee man open the windows
[19:03] <zeref> hmmm
[19:03] <zeref> not good  idea to drive with windows open
[19:04] <Kilos> on the open road?
[19:04] <zeref> yeah
[19:04] <Kilos> why?
[19:04] <zeref> causes drag
[19:04] <Kilos> lol
[19:04] <zeref> end up using more petrol
[19:04] <Kilos> he has a vw
[19:04] <Kilos> drag no prob
[19:05] <zeref> LOL
[19:12] <Kilos> V double U and me, we all believe in quality
[19:13] <Kilos> sleep tight guys. see ya tomorrow
[19:13] <Kilos> lekker slaap nuvolari 
[19:13] <superfly> night Kilos
[19:13] <Kilos> aw night superfly 
[19:13] <superfly> I still love those "unpimp your auto" adverts :-)
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:14] <Kilos> i been a vw fan since ian was 2
[19:15] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos 
[20:00] <inetpro> good night