[01:28] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ yofel: ^^^
[01:47] <piglet> Can I just check, has 4.7.3 gone to the regular repos now, out of PPA?
[03:11] <ScottK> Yes.
[11:35] <Riddell> debfx: bug 904031 for you :(
[11:44] <debfx> Riddell: well that bug contains not much data and no way to reproduce
[12:37] <ScottK> Just starting isn't sufficient?
[12:39] <Riddell> it seems to have started for him at the upgrade, but there''s no way to be sure of that and it doesn't cause a problem for anyone else
[12:55] <Riddell> ScottK: 4.7.4 installed without problems
[12:56] <ScottK> Riddell: Cool.
[12:56] <ScottK> With 4.7.3 from -proposed I'm able to use kmail again.
[12:57] <debfx> Riddell: he didn't say that it started after the upgrade
[14:28] <Riddell> skaet: seems we were too late to get onto the tech board agenda so we'll be considered at their next meeting next year
[14:29] <skaet> Riddell,  thanks for letting me know.  Hope you're feeling a better now?
[14:32] <Riddell> skaet: so long as everyone else has one eye covered by sellotape I fit right in :)
[14:33] <skaet> Riddell,  urk!   sounds uncomfortable.   Glad your sense of humor's back though.  :)
[15:03] <ScottK> qapt in Debian now: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-extras/2011-December/015344.html
[15:05] <Riddell> ooh
[15:05] <Riddell> are they doing muon too?
[15:10] <ScottK> AFAIK, yes.
[15:43] <ScottK> Riddell: This should make you feel better about your internet bandwidth: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/13/caltech-sets-186gpbs-internet-speed-record-makes-our-5mbps-look/
[15:43] <ScottK> ;-)
[15:48] <Riddell> and to think I'm waiting for a whole 40Mbps being available!
[17:07] <who_me> guys, any reason why chart shape plugin are not packaged with the koffice suite. It does kinda render the spreadsheet app half-useless
[17:07] <who_me> hmm missed a question mark there :/
[17:20] <Riddell> I don't know but we don't work on koffice much now, calligra is where our efforts are
[17:24] <tsdgeos> Riddell: who do i ask regarding qapt?
[17:24] <Riddell> tsdgeos: jonathan thomas is your man there, echidnaman, he's not on irc just now
[17:25] <tsdgeos> ok
[17:25] <tsdgeos> not sure if it's qapt fault or polkit fault
[17:25] <tsdgeos> but the "Install Packages" thing
[17:25] <tsdgeos> is untranslatable
[17:25] <tsdgeos> which is kind of sad
[17:30] <Riddell> echidnaman @gmail.com if you want to contact him
[18:47] <Riddell> mgraesslin: how should I split up kwin and kwin_gles?
[18:48] <Riddell> have a -common package with everything buy th binnaries which is depended on by both?
[18:51] <mgraesslin> Riddell: no real idea, as there are also different sets of effects and library
[20:03] <micahg> ScottK: I can't seem to use akregator in oneiric after the KDE updates
[20:04]  * micahg checks to make sure he's not missing anything else
[20:05] <micahg> not missing any KDE updates at least
[20:05] <ScottK> micahg: Odd.  It's working here.  Is this from -proposed?
[20:06] <micahg> yep
[20:06]  * micahg restarts the app again
[20:06] <ScottK> What happens if you launch it from a command line?
[20:12] <micahg> ScottK: akregator(17832): couldn't create slave: "Unable to create io-slave:
[20:12] <micahg> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'http'.
[20:12] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ any idea what could cause that?
[20:13] <ScottK> (this is 4.7.3)
[20:15] <ScottK> Please check you have kdelibs5-plugins and kde-runtime installed.
[20:15]  * ScottK needs to get back to $work.  Will check in, in a bit.
[20:19] <micahg> ScottK: yep, both at the -proposed versions
[20:56] <ScottK> I looked at the diff and didn't see anything obviously related.
[20:56] <ScottK> Hopefully Riddell or maybe apachelogger would have a suggestion.
[20:57] <micahg> maybe I just need a reboot :-/
[20:57] <ScottK> Maybe.
[20:58] <ScottK> Restarting your session should be sufficient.
[21:16] <Riddell> micahg: akgregator works fine here
[21:16] <apachelogger> micahg: did a restart help?
[21:16] <Riddell> does konqueror work for http?
[21:27]  * micahg hasn't tried a session restart yet, but I guess that's possible
[21:37] <micahg> seems to be working again
[21:37]  * micahg never restarted the session after the update
[21:43]  * ScottK wipes his sweating brow ...
[21:43] <micahg> sorry for the scare :)
[21:43]  * micahg still prefers to not reboot/restart session w/out a good reason
[21:44] <ScottK> No problem.
[21:44] <ScottK> New kde is a reason.
[21:46] <Riddell> yes new desktop software is a reason to restart the desktop session, in kde it can happen because the ioslaves etc are part of the session
[21:47]  * micahg is running unity-2d though :)
[21:48] <ScottK> Interesting.
[21:48] <ScottK> In that case how does one restart just the KDE 'session'?
[21:48] <micahg> no idea, I restarted unity-2d and it was happy
[21:49] <ScottK> I was hoping Riddell might know.
[21:49] <Riddell> killall kdeinit  I expect
[21:49] <micahg> is that something doable in a postinst or will that break the world?
[21:54] <Riddell> it's likely to break the world, I'd rather just pop up the reboot notifier
[21:54] <ScottK> It'll break the world.
[21:55]  * ScottK recallse pam restarting kdm in it's postinst.  Not a fun upgrade from inside a KDE session.
[23:01] <Riddell> what have I messed up in the shlibdeps?  
[23:01] <Riddell> https://i87478678.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/87478678/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.marble_4%3A4.7.90-0ubuntu2~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=3984c561fea781f3520bf1a5e43312ef
[23:01] <Riddell> (ninjas only)
[23:05] <yofel> Riddell: seems to me it tries to insert a ' (>= 4:4.7.90)' dependency - but the package is missing there
[23:05] <Riddell> right
[23:05] <Riddell> but I don't know where it gets that problem from
[23:06] <Riddell> presumably another package is messed up, in its shlibs or .symbols files