| Peyam | hi | 00:26 |
|---|---|---|
| Peyam | kubuntu and ubuntu sucks | 00:26 |
| szal | fine for you.. if you have grounded complaints, file bugs.. if you just want to brag, gtfo | 00:28 |
| szal | yofel: a word on the status of KDE 4.7.4 for Oneiric? | 01:15 |
| amason | szal: 4.7.4 will probably be available oneiric after the packages for precise have been made. | 01:15 |
| szal | amason: is that in the works atm? | 01:16 |
| amason | it's been in the works since shortly after 4.7.4 came out i think. | 01:16 |
| amason | i am unsure what exactly the blockers are or if there are any...it could just be in the build queue | 01:17 |
| amason | there is a decent amount of changes going on atm so that wouldn't surprise me. | 01:17 |
| szal | amason: I heard of a case of a garbled system w/ 4.7.4 on openSUSE the other day | 01:22 |
| amason | oh ok. i haven't built 4.7.4 myself yet so i can't really comment. but i know that the kubuntu devs are pretty busy at the moment so in terms of getting 4.7.4 it's probably a case of when it's ready it will be in the repos | 01:24 |
| szal | I suppose so, but I guess it's been at least a week already that it was released | 01:25 |
| szal | (#kde doesn't have that info in the topic any more) | 01:26 |
| amason | well if they choose 4.8 for precise then it may not hit oneric at all | 01:26 |
| amason | are you looking for a specific change / fix in 4.7.4 ? | 01:27 |
| amason | if so you can probably just build that subsystem | 01:27 |
| * szal was guessing the other day that they'd be going for 4.7.5 in Precise due to it being an LTS | 01:27 | |
| szal | amason: Okular in 4.7.3 doesn't print correctly; top margin is ignored and print begins at what is set as top margin in the settings dialog | 01:28 |
| amason | well precise isn't going to be released till 12.04 and theoretically 4.8 will be released then | 01:28 |
| amason | so it really depends what the devs feel comfortable supporting for 5 years | 01:28 |
| amason | my guess is that if 4.8 is looking reasonable they will go for that | 01:29 |
| amason | given that they will get at least 3 minor updates to 4.8 | 01:29 |
| szal | my guess was that in April we'll have 4.8.1, and that is traditionally far from bug-free | 01:29 |
| szal | the .1 release, that is | 01:30 |
| amason | yeh but that isn't necesarily better from a suppport perspecitive :) | 01:30 |
| szal | exactly | 01:30 |
| amason | so unless 4.8 is fairly broken i'll hazzard to guess a buggy but upstream supported release will be included over a less buggy / less featured / less supported release for an LTS | 01:31 |
| amason | 5 years is a long time and if someone can do some of that work for you it's an awefully big carrot | 01:32 |
| szal | ah, just found the repo; gonna update my testbed system to 4.7.4 (openSUSE 12.1) & see what it's like | 01:35 |
| amason | opensuse has some good rolling repos i think | 01:37 |
| amason | if only it didn't use YaST i'd consider it for my desktop | 01:37 |
| szal | amason: nothing wrong w/ YaST :) | 01:39 |
| amason | not saying there is anything wrong with it , it's just not my cup of tea. | 01:40 |
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| szal | amason: http://www.abload.de/img/20111214_fullscreenx6pxb.png <- just for the lulz, KDE 4.7.4, openSUSE 12.1.. no desktop effects (legacy gfx driver makes KDE not run w/ effects on), few customizations (UI font (yes, that is Ubuntu, and I think it looks better on SUSE ;)), window title bar, clock font colour) | 02:18 |
| amason | nice | 02:18 |
| amason | i have recently obtained a sandy bridge machine with an intel graphics chip, the difference in experience is night an day | 02:19 |
| amason | i have other systems, ati and nvidia which theoretically are 'better' cards | 02:19 |
| amason | but the general desktop performance with the intel drivers is just wonderful | 02:20 |
| amason | completely changes how i use the desktop | 02:20 |
| kamilnadeem | Hi | 03:04 |
| kamilnadeem | how to get trash back in the places menu, dolphin? I deleted it accidentally? | 03:04 |
| AlexZion | right click , add ....I guess ... | 03:05 |
| AlexZion | and then .... | 03:05 |
| AlexZion | just put trash:/ it should works ... | 03:06 |
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| kamilnadeem | AlexZion: I did that but trash is giving me problems | 03:23 |
| kamilnadeem | I am unable to move files to trash | 03:23 |
| kamilnadeem | this error comes up "The trash has reached its maximum size! | 03:24 |
| kamilnadeem | Cleanup the trash manually." | 03:24 |
| kamilnadeem | I deleted the files manually | 03:24 |
| kamilnadeem | but still no luck | 03:24 |
| AlexZion | yeah , so probably you have to much stuff in the trash | 03:24 |
| kamilnadeem | also the permissions is acting strange | 03:25 |
| kamilnadeem | http://i.imgur.com/d53Hb.jpg | 03:25 |
| AlexZion | ok , you were doing something strange before it happened ..... ? | 03:26 |
| kamilnadeem | nothing that i remember | 03:27 |
| AlexZion | well , mine is the same ... | 03:28 |
| AlexZion | so nothing strange for me ... | 03:28 |
| kamilnadeem | brb | 03:31 |
| kamilnadeem | Option 1 from here http://unsolicitedbutoffered.blogspot.com/2011/07/trash-has-reached-its-maximum-size.html worked | 03:38 |
| snowrichard | hi | 03:39 |
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| amason | szal: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | 03:45 |
| amason | 4.8 for precise, oneiric wil get get 4.7.4 after that has been packaged by the looks of it | 03:46 |
| OerHeks | just got 4.7.4 tru kubuntu/ppa | 03:47 |
| szal | nice :) | 03:47 |
| robin0800 | OerHeks: is that the 4.7.3 ppa or a different one? | 04:01 |
| OerHeks | robin0800, i used this one > https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa | 04:05 |
| OerHeks | i never noticed a version in the name. | 04:05 |
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| snowrichard | hello | 04:49 |
| snowrichard | i switched from the unity interface to kubuntu.... when I tried to use the alt-F7 key in unity it scrambled the graphic | 04:50 |
| chris122380 | why dosen't ubuntu or Kubuntu connect to wpa2? | 05:35 |
| chris122380 | My wireless works fine with wpa, wep, and unsecured networks but not with wpa2 | 05:36 |
| chris122380 | I would like to connect to a WPA2 network | 05:37 |
| chris122380 | I have googled it and I am still looking | 05:38 |
| OerHeks | chris122380, try WPA2 personal in your networkmanager | 05:40 |
| grade | hi guys! would like to ask my problem regarding usb drive mounting, it doesnt mount automatically when I insert it on usb port | 05:40 |
| chris122380 | I have | 05:40 |
| chris122380 | still dosen't seem to recegnize the key even though i know it's right | 05:41 |
| chris122380 | Looks like a problem for a long time | 05:42 |
| OerHeks | chris122380, check you router, see if you have mac-filter/acces-list enabled, depends of the type/brand router | 05:43 |
| chris122380 | I am on the Mac filter list | 05:43 |
| chris122380 | I can connect with the same machine useing windows 7 | 05:44 |
| OerHeks | oke, then i have no clue | 05:44 |
| chris122380 | I am trying to use Kubuntu | 05:44 |
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| Guest64093 | hi. i liked the mandriva representation of kde. the dash and all. can i do the same in kubuntu? how? help please | 05:48 |
| chris122380 | I am also useing the broadcom legacy driver | 05:49 |
| amason | Guest64093: you might need to describe how it worked | 05:50 |
| chris122380 | used to be able to connect on ubuntu but can't on kubuntu | 05:50 |
| amason | Guest64093: alot of people in this channel probably have never used mandriva , myself included | 05:51 |
| Guest64093 | amason: like there is dash interface in gnome3. the same dash interface in kde | 05:51 |
| amason | i also haven't used gnome3 sorry | 05:51 |
| Guest64093 | ok | 05:51 |
| Guest64093 | nvm | 05:51 |
| amason | do you have a screenshot ? | 05:51 |
| Guest64093 | sure. juist a min | 05:51 |
| chris122380 | so no wpa2 for me then:-( | 05:52 |
| chris122380 | Can't connect to my HOAs network then | 05:52 |
| amason | chris122380: ubuntu and kubuntu both use the same kernel | 05:53 |
| chris122380 | I know that | 05:53 |
| cyberworm54 | holla kubuntu community | 05:53 |
| chris122380 | the problem isn't the kernel | 05:53 |
| amason | can you use nm-applet then ? | 05:53 |
| chris122380 | problem with network manager I believe | 05:53 |
| amason | k well the only difference between kubuntu / ubuntu wrt to network-manager is the network manager interfaces | 05:54 |
| amason | so i'd try nm-applet and see if that works | 05:54 |
| chris122380 | nm-applet? | 05:54 |
| Guest64093 | amason: http://imagebin.org/188479 this comes up when we press alt f1 | 05:55 |
| cyberworm54 | try to modify the file manually | 05:55 |
| chris122380 | that is the gnome network manager | 05:55 |
| amason | chris122380: the gnome network manager interface | 05:55 |
| amason | yeh | 05:55 |
| chris122380 | that would break KDE | 05:55 |
| amason | break ? | 05:55 |
| amason | how so ? | 05:55 |
| chris122380 | I just want to have KDE working | 05:56 |
| cyberworm54 | whats the problem? if you dont mind me asking | 05:56 |
| amason | chris122380: well obviously it doesn't for your particular setup for one reason or another, it could be a bug in kde's network manager in which case your not going to find an immediate answer in irc. | 05:57 |
| chris122380 | How do I get the latest KDE network manager | 05:57 |
| amason | use the latest version of kde 4.7.4 | 05:58 |
| chris122380 | How do I get the network manager for kde 4.7.4? | 05:58 |
| amason | Guest64093: you could try the plasma layout...right click -> layout -> search and launch | 05:58 |
| amason | chris122380: it comes with kde 4.7.4 | 05:59 |
| chris122380 | that still dosen't tell me anything | 05:59 |
| chris122380 | How do I re-install network manager? | 05:59 |
| amason | network manager != kde's network manager interface. if ubuntu works for you but kubuntu doesn't then the problem is in the kde interface to network manager | 06:00 |
| chris122380 | I understand that but how do I do a reinstall of network manager? | 06:01 |
| amason | if you use the kubuntu ppa and install kde 4.7.4 you get _the_ lastest released version of kde's interface to network manager | 06:01 |
| amason | latest* | 06:01 |
| amason | apt-get install --reinstall | 06:01 |
| amason | i think | 06:01 |
| amason | might need to look at the exact flags | 06:02 |
| chris122380 | yes but what is the package name for the kde network manager? | 06:02 |
| cyberworm54 | network-manager-gnome | 06:02 |
| amason | network-manager-kde is kubuntu's | 06:03 |
| cyberworm54 | network-manager-kde | 06:03 |
| chris122380 | need to reboot thank you. We shell see if this works if not then i'll look for kubuntu ppa | 06:04 |
| szal | 4.7.4 is noticeably speedier than 4.7.3 | 06:09 |
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| szal | PDF printing w/ Okular is fixed :) | 06:14 |
| szal | though tray notification 'speech bubbles' still have a border where there shouldn't be one | 06:18 |
| bodoh | who hates amarok? | 07:23 |
| bodoh | and what do you use now? | 07:23 |
| cyberworm54 | audacius | 07:24 |
| cyberworm54 | *audacious | 07:24 |
| szal | Audacious on *buntu is ancient | 07:25 |
| cyberworm54 | it does the job for me :) | 07:25 |
| szal | not bad, but severely outdated | 07:25 |
| jussi | bodoh: I like amarok. but if you want similar to old amarok, check out clementine: | 07:37 |
| jussi | !info clementine | 07:38 |
| ubottu | clementine (source: clementine): Modern music player and library organiser inspired by Amarok 1.4. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-0ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 4232 kB, installed size 10048 kB | 07:38 |
| bodoh | hi list ... what is the default webcam app that comes with kubuntu? | 08:10 |
| bodoh | my laptop has the webcam | 08:11 |
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| cyberworm54 | I use camorama | 08:13 |
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| bodoh | thanks cyberworm54 | 08:24 |
| bodoh | since when linux needs restarting (like Windows)??? | 08:25 |
| bodoh | this kubuntu wants a restart after I installed camorama!! | 08:25 |
| bodoh | that gesture is maybe just a salute to Windows | 08:26 |
| EvilResistance | probly also needed a kernel upgrade :P | 08:28 |
| jjman6 | i'm having problems installing .Net Framework v4 in wine. it just crashes b4 it can finish | 08:29 |
| cyberworm54 | I am nost sure but i think .Net depends on some core dlls like shell 32 crypto 32 | 08:29 |
| EvilResistance | jjman6: thats a wine issue | 08:37 |
| EvilResistance | jjman6: i'd check in the wine support channels | 08:37 |
| EvilResistance | i'm not sure if they're here on freenode though | 08:38 |
| jjman6 | sigh | 08:38 |
| cyberworm54 | chek that out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17886 | 08:38 |
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| gribouille | kde 4.7.4 is available isn' it? | 09:42 |
| gribouille | someone here? | 09:44 |
| gribouille | someone here? | 09:46 |
| darthanubis | 4.7.4 is in the kubuntu ppa repo for 11.10<< Should be on the KUBUNTU homepage soon, and NOT DEBIAN's of course. | 10:11 |
| KjetilK | I get Internal Server Errors on the Kubuntu wiki now | 10:17 |
| KjetilK | e.g. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot | 10:17 |
| KjetilK | since I can't check the FAQ, I'll just ask: What is the status for 4.7.3 or 4.7.4 packages? | 10:21 |
| KjetilK | will they enter oneiric-updates? | 10:21 |
| grade_ | is there a way that i could automatically mount may usb drive when I insert it | 10:27 |
| grade_ | im using 11.10 | 10:28 |
| ray1claw | whats the name of the telepathy IM client on kubuntu? I need to install it, really fed up with Kopete | 10:28 |
| ray1claw | grade_: system settings>removable devices | 10:29 |
| gorgonizer | ray1claw: it is telepathy-kde | 10:45 |
| ray1claw | gorgonizer: is it a complete client? or just a backend? | 10:46 |
| gorgonizer | though you might need the PPA at ppa:telepathy-kde/ppa | 10:46 |
| gorgonizer | it is a complete replacement for Kopete on the whole, though I am having FB Chat issues with Telepathy, but MSN and GTalk work fine.. | 10:47 |
| gorgonizer | The PPA has the KDE specific parts for Telepathy, the rest of telepathy should be in the normal Ubuntu repos.. | 10:48 |
| ray1claw | hmm, you can try using <username>@chat.facebook.com on jabber with that.. it works okay in kopete | 10:48 |
| jtheuer | hey, how can I verify the actual graphics driver used by X? (now that we don't have a config anymore *g*) | 10:48 |
| gorgonizer | ray1claw: it connects in Telepathy, then just disconnects after a while, which then needs me to enter my KWallet password and I get annoyed, so I disabled FB chat in Telepathy and just have it in Kopete until I get it working.. | 10:49 |
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| ray1claw | :) | 10:53 |
| grade_ | thanks ray1claw | 11:01 |
| grade | hi ray1claw.! already check the the usb devices on removable devices but still it cant mount automatically the usbdev | 11:25 |
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| twn39 | it seems that ibus doesn't work on kubuntu 11.10?! | 12:15 |
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| Peace- | twn39: ? | 12:40 |
| Peace- | why | 12:40 |
| twn39 | i don't know,it didn't display the input panel when I type in chinese. | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:50 |
| Peace- | twn39: mmm what kind of software you are using | 12:54 |
| twn39 | ? ibus-pinyin | 12:56 |
| Peace- | twn39: i am sorry but being italian i can't figure out the issue because i can't even image what's the issue with chinese\japanese stuff, coudl you explain better what you r trying to do ? | 12:57 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: i have written well? | 12:58 |
| Peace- | have i xD | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | Peace-, yes , very well | 13:01 |
| Peace- | :) | 13:01 |
| twn39 | i'm sorry ,i'm a chinese and know little english,i must type chinese words with ibus,but it seems doesn't work | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | one thing Peace- , image works, but the word imagine works better:) | 13:04 |
| BarkingFish | twn39: which dialect of Chinese do you write in? Mandarin, or Cantonese? | 13:06 |
| twn39 | Mandarin | 13:08 |
| BarkingFish | I write some chinese, but I'm not good. If you don't understand what I say, please tell me :) | 13:08 |
| * BarkingFish will be with you in a moment, this is slow :) | 13:10 | |
| BarkingFish | 您在中國本地化您的系統，並選擇一個中文鍵盤嗎？ | 13:10 |
| Peace- | twn39: i dunno but try to do this ; open KONSOLE then type thsi : QT_IM_MODULE=ibus-qt4 kate | 13:11 |
| BluesKaj | BarkingFish, it would be best if you guys went private or got help from the chinese chat | 13:11 |
| BarkingFish | BluesKaj: ubuntu-zh has only two people in it | 13:12 |
| BarkingFish | there is no help from there, I'd say :) | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | !cn | 13:12 |
| ubottu | 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw | 13:12 |
| BarkingFish | ah | 13:12 |
| BarkingFish | I simply wanted to know if twn39 understand me first, my chinese is appalling, i've only been learning for about 6 months. | 13:13 |
| BluesKaj | right, well he wants help with ibus | 13:14 |
| Peace- | i guess he has to install sudo apt-get install ibus-qt4 | 13:14 |
| twn39 | yes i can understand | 13:14 |
| BarkingFish | Yeah, I saw - I asked him if he'd actually localized his system in Chinese, and selected a chinese keyboard :) | 13:14 |
| BarkingFish | usually, it sorta self configures any packages you need when you change locale... | 13:15 |
| twn39 | i selected a usa keyboard ,Does it matter? | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | bbl..I hope...major update/upgrade on 12.04 just now ..reboot | 13:16 |
| twn39 | ok thank you | 13:17 |
| BarkingFish | twn39: if you have a chinese keyboard, it helps. | 13:18 |
| BarkingFish | 現在我必須去。您可以加入 的 #ubuntu-cn 或 #ubuntu-tw - 他們會幫你多我可以 | 13:19 |
| BarkingFish | Sorry guys, I've got to go. | 13:19 |
| BarkingFish | I've been called away, so I've explained that, and directed twn39 to relevant channels he can get help from. | 13:20 |
| BarkingFish | Sorry for the chinese in channel, I was using the wrong language codes to search for somewhere :) | 13:20 |
| BarkingFish | 再見了，twn39 - 我希望你好運！ | 13:21 |
| twn39 | bye | 13:22 |
| Deathbringer | hey | 13:24 |
| Deathbringer | there is no back arrow now at the kde kickoff menu. how can i fix that? | 13:25 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: you can't | 13:26 |
| Deathbringer | Peace-, is this a bug or intentional? | 13:27 |
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| Peace- | Deathbringer: intentional | 13:28 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopxi1883 | 13:28 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: if you look there is graphics up | 13:28 |
| Peace- | click in application and you will go back | 13:28 |
| Deathbringer | Peace-, yeah i know | 13:29 |
| Deathbringer | but it isnt so handy | 13:29 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: wel i agrre with oyu :D | 13:29 |
| Peace- | agree | 13:29 |
| Peace- | mmm you | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj | Deathbringer, click on all applications , at the top of the frame | 13:29 |
| Deathbringer | Peace-, at this point i prefer the classic menu | 13:29 |
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| Deathbringer | Peace-, do you know how can i install the lancelot menu? | 13:30 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: of course | 13:30 |
| Deathbringer | i cant find it in widgets | 13:30 |
| Peace- | sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-lancelot | 13:30 |
| * BluesKaj wishes ppl would leave their gamenicks behind | 13:31 | |
| Peace- | i did this :D sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-* | 13:31 |
| Peace- | xD | 13:31 |
| Deathbringer | i will do that too | 13:31 |
| Deathbringer | i like widgets | 13:31 |
| Deathbringer | 154mb to get | 13:32 |
| Peace- | who cares :D i have 130 ggs | 13:34 |
| Deathbringer | Peace-, how can i stop kde-login from autostarting? | 13:35 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: systemsettings | 13:36 |
| Deathbringer | i think i will move to a tiling manager like xmonad | 13:37 |
| Deathbringer | and just use qt-based apps of kde in there | 13:37 |
| Peace- | Deathbringer: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopdk1883 | 13:37 |
| Deathbringer | i saw that before | 13:38 |
| Peace- | system settings , then filter with :: login | 13:38 |
| Deathbringer | Peace-, it doesnt say how to disable it | 13:40 |
| Deathbringer | under login screen | 13:40 |
| Peace- | enagle autologin | 13:40 |
| Peace- | enable | 13:40 |
| Deathbringer | no i mean stop kdm | 13:40 |
| Deathbringer | i want just to see tty1 | 13:40 |
| Deathbringer | after boot | 13:40 |
| Deathbringer | and type startx | 13:40 |
| Peace- | mm | 13:40 |
| Peace- | i guess removing kdm i would be nice but i guess you canset that on kdm window | 13:41 |
| Deathbringer | is it an init script? | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | Deathbringer, just click on the enable autologin and it will grey out (disable) | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | make sure it's not checked | 13:41 |
| Deathbringer | BluesKaj, its nto enabled now | 13:41 |
| Deathbringer | its not checked | 13:41 |
| Deathbringer | but i still get kdm on boot | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | Deathbringer, what exactly do you want , grub? | 13:42 |
| BluesKaj | if you enable autologin it by passes grub and the login page | 13:43 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: he want login via terminal | 13:43 |
| Peace- | BluesKaj: boot ==> login via terminal i have seen this on university | 13:43 |
| Peace- | i guess they have removed kdm | 13:43 |
| BluesKaj | I think that's a setting in grub | 13:44 |
| BluesKaj | /etc/default/grub | 13:44 |
| BluesKaj | in /etc/default/grub , find the line | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | #GRUB_TERMINAL=console | 13:47 |
| BluesKaj | uncomment those lines | 13:47 |
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| yofel_ | uhm, to NOT start kdm, you run: 'echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/kdm.override' | 13:48 |
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| yofel | then when you need it: sudo service kdm start | 13:48 |
| yofel | Deathbringer: ^ | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | well , not the Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | and sudo updaye-grub | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | err update-grub | 13:49 |
| Deathbringer | yofel, yeah i wanted to stop the service | 13:49 |
| Deathbringer | yofel, i am not sure what your command does though | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | Deathbringer, sudo update-grub is very important , otherwise your changes won't stick | 13:51 |
| yofel | Deathbringer: creates a /etc/init/kdm.override with "manual" in it | 13:51 |
| yofel | which tells upstart not to auto-start kdm on boot | 13:51 |
| Deathbringer | yofel, i could just " echo manual >> /etc/init/kdm.override " then | 13:52 |
| Deathbringer | or > | 13:52 |
| yofel | as root sure | 13:52 |
| Deathbringer | to overwrite | 13:52 |
| yofel | right | 13:52 |
| Deathbringer | bash is a nice language | 13:53 |
| Deathbringer | i wonder why many people use perl/python for system tasks | 13:53 |
| * BluesKaj doen't understand the reasons for this , kdm will eventaully be needed anyway | 13:53 | |
| Deathbringer | how can i install all ubuntu packages? | 13:54 |
| Deathbringer | like if i had installed ubuntu livecd | 13:54 |
| Deathbringer | not kubuntu | 13:55 |
| Deathbringer | apt-get install ubuntu-desktop? | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | default packages , ubuntu-desltop | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | desktop | 13:56 |
| Deathbringer | then it will be same thing as ubuntu? | 13:56 |
| Deathbringer | kubuntu and ubuntu have the same repositories also? | 13:56 |
| yofel | same archive | 13:56 |
| Deathbringer | what do you mean by archive? | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | you'll still ahve the kubuntu packages | 13:56 |
| Deathbringer | BluesKaj, yeah i know | 13:56 |
| Deathbringer | i can choose kde or gnome on boot | 13:57 |
| yofel | well, repository | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | Deathbringer, you'll have alot of duplication of apps in both kde and gnome that do the same tasks | 13:58 |
| Deathbringer | BluesKaj, yeah | 13:58 |
| Deathbringer | well instead of dual booting ubuntu and kubuntu i think its better to have both | 13:59 |
| Deathbringer | i want to try gnome shell (gnome 3) | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | yes, agreed | 13:59 |
| Deathbringer | generally i try many environments | 13:59 |
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| Peace- | BluesKaj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBevboa6RII&feature=youtu.be | 15:09 |
| kupholder | ello | 15:29 |
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| cire | hi, I am using kmail 4.7.2, and can't connect to my imap server anymore. akonadi states everything was fine, but kmail can't update the folder | 17:39 |
| [Relic] | how do I get flash to work on kubuntu | 17:39 |
| DemonWitch | hey | 17:42 |
| cire | [Relic]: I have installed packet flashplugin-installer | 17:42 |
| DemonWitch | how do i deactivate the kubuntu loading screen? (on boot and shutdown) | 17:43 |
| [Relic] | it won't install | 17:43 |
| cire | [Relic]: what does it say? | 17:44 |
| cire | DemonWitch: which version? | 17:44 |
| DemonWitch | cire, the latest | 17:44 |
| cire | I think you have to change the kernel boot params | 17:45 |
| cire | used to that? | 17:45 |
| [Relic] | (npviewer.bin:7083): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqtcurve.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 | 17:45 |
| cire | [Relic]: this happens when installing a package? | 17:45 |
| cire | or only when installing flash package? | 17:46 |
| [Relic] | thinking mone part got installed and the other didn't | 17:46 |
| [Relic] | this is flash; they renamed the packages when they moved to the new version | 17:46 |
| cire | [Relic]: So it _did_ install, but is not running correctly, right? | 17:47 |
| [Relic] | this time | 17:47 |
| [Relic] | removed both listed pakages through apt so hopefully a new install will work | 17:48 |
| cire | ok | 17:48 |
| [Relic] | now it is back to not working and wrong elf class | 17:48 |
| cire | [Relic]: did you change somehow from 32 to 64 bit? | 17:49 |
| cire | all I find concerning you topic seems to be platform related | 17:49 |
| [Relic] | been 64 all the time | 17:50 |
| [Relic] | got them both removed from apt-get, now will try apper to install but not sure if I select one or both | 17:50 |
| cire | what do you mean by "both"? | 17:51 |
| cire | what are they called? | 17:51 |
| [Relic] | flashplugin-downloader and flashplugin-installer | 17:53 |
| cire | -downloader is uninstalled here. -installer works fine. | 17:53 |
| cire | I think you're right, this was the old version | 17:53 |
| [Relic] | they both say the same thing | 17:53 |
| cire | weird, apt-cache show tells me -installer depends on -downloader | 17:54 |
| cire | I have only installer | 17:54 |
| [Relic] | won't work | 17:54 |
| [Relic] | installer wants to use downloader and the say it can't configure it | 17:55 |
| cire | [Relic]: did you try installing it via console? | 17:55 |
| cire | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer | 17:55 |
| cire | so you get the apt output | 17:55 |
| [Relic] | tried removing one via apt and the other one then installs | 17:56 |
| cire | I just don't get it... dpkg -l *flash* tells me -downloader is uninstalled, trying to install it manually gets me "is latest version" | 17:57 |
| cire | what the hell... | 17:57 |
| [Relic] | welcome to my problem | 17:57 |
| [Relic] | wonder if flash aid was brought up to normal | 17:58 |
| cire | I was using debian for years and switched to (k)ubuntu a few days ago. So either this is (k)ubuntu related, or just rubbish | 17:58 |
| cire | okay, apt-get policy tells me -downloader is installed | 17:59 |
| BarkingFish | Guys, just wondering if you could help me - I want to burn a set of AVI's to a DVD, so that when you open the DVD, you get a menu, thumbnails of the episodes, etc - is there any good software for making video DVDs which don't require you to have Video_RM and Video_TS files? | 17:59 |
| cire | BarkingFish: these menus and stuff are part of the video DVD spec as I remember, and so are VIDEO_TS and stuff. You can't use one without the other, Iimho | 18:00 |
| cire | but perhaps an expert will tell sth other | 18:01 |
| BarkingFish | hm. And all I have are AVIs. I've never made a Video DVD before, much less tried to figure out what goes where... | 18:01 |
| cire | BarkingFish: I did never do that, but there should be tools converting your avis to mpeg2 (VIDEO_TS format) and adding menus. | 18:02 |
| cire | but expect them to get larger than the avis | 18:02 |
| [Relic] | k3b has a new video CD/DVD options; not sure if that handles that automatically or not since I have never used it | 18:03 |
| cire | this VIDEO_TS stuff is made for running in hardware decoders as DVD players, so it may not be that efficient in encoding | 18:03 |
| BarkingFish | cire: yeah, which won't help. I have a 52 episode series to put on dvd, at roughly 176MB per episode | 18:04 |
| BarkingFish | if I convert those to mpeg2ts, they'll be freaking huge :( | 18:04 |
| cire | BarkingFish: so get rid of those menu stuff ;) | 18:05 |
| cire | BarkingFish: where is it supposed to run? | 18:05 |
| cire | hardware dvd players, or just computers? | 18:05 |
| BarkingFish | cire: I wanted to do the menu, so I could make it look a little more...professional.. I'm learning new things, and can't "not" do them, just because it's complicated :) | 18:05 |
| BarkingFish | hardware dvd player | 18:06 |
| BarkingFish | I want something I can take out of my machine and watch in bed of a night, or when I'm relaxing. | 18:06 |
| cire | BarkingFish: so you're lost. imho it is not complicated, it is useless. You can either make a proper video DVD and following the specs, or ignore them and let the menus go | 18:06 |
| BarkingFish | I'll flip open kdenlive and see how big an mpeg2 transport stream comes out at. | 18:07 |
| cire | BarkingFish: I don't think you will succeed in putting all the episodes on one disk with mpeg2 | 18:08 |
| cire | but yeah, give it a try | 18:08 |
| cire | and tell me how big it was, never tried it :) | 18:08 |
| BarkingFish | Maybe not on one disk, I can break it down into two or three maybe, depends how big the files come out at | 18:08 |
| BarkingFish | well I'll soon see, I'm sucking the first episode into kdenlive now... | 18:09 |
| cire | BarkingFish: Why are you using kdenlive for that?! | 18:09 |
| BarkingFish | because it's all I have, and all I know how to use. | 18:09 |
| cire | thats a powerful non linear video editing system. You just need a file conversion tool, right? | 18:10 |
| BarkingFish | Why do you think I was asking for help with other video editors??? :) | 18:10 |
| cire | I would do it in the commandline, but there are tons of frontends for these commandline converters | 18:10 |
| cire | wait | 18:10 |
| BarkingFish | ok | 18:10 |
| cire | BarkingFish: give avidemux a try | 18:11 |
| BarkingFish | i have no idea how to use it, but anything's worth a shot | 18:12 |
| BarkingFish | Holy grud on a green stick. | 18:13 |
| cire | BarkingFish: it is very straightforward | 18:13 |
| BarkingFish | 1 avi file, 176mb - sent out to .mpg at a reasonable video rate, resized and deinterlace... | 18:13 |
| BarkingFish | 380.46MB, estimated render time: 05:42:11 | 18:14 |
| cire | yeah | 18:15 |
| BarkingFish | I'm like, what the .... | 18:15 |
| cire | but you also have to take care of the audio stream | 18:15 |
| cire | hardware dvd players don't play mp3 afaik | 18:15 |
| cire | but I am no expert for this | 18:15 |
| [Relic] | this is getting annoying | 18:16 |
| BarkingFish | [Relic]: what is getting annoying? | 18:16 |
| [Relic] | not getting flash running | 18:17 |
| DemonWitch | hey | 19:18 |
| DemonWitch | how can i disable kdm? after boot just get a console login | 19:19 |
| Peace- | DemonWitch: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/07/24/tip-disable-gdm-kdm-or-xdm-from-starting-up-automatically/ | 19:24 |
| cyberworm54 | jsut change the rinleverl to 3 | 19:27 |
| cyberworm54 | *just change the runlevel to 3 | 19:27 |
| cyberworm54 | in the inittab file | 19:27 |
| cyberworm54 | and reboot | 19:27 |
| cyberworm54 | :) | 19:27 |
| Pici | !inittab | cyberworm54 | 19:28 |
| ubottu | cyberworm54: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ | 19:28 |
| Pici | !text | DemonWitch | 19:28 |
| ubottu | DemonWitch: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode | 19:28 |
| DemonWitch | Pici, i tried it didnt work | 19:28 |
| Pici | Really? | 19:28 |
| Pici | hm | 19:28 |
| DemonWitch | yes i will now stop the service kdm running | 19:28 |
| DemonWitch | using update-rc.d -f gdm remove | 19:28 |
| DemonWitch | or kdm | 19:28 |
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| Darak | Bonsoir | 21:06 |
| rork | !fr | Darak | 21:08 |
| ubottu | Darak: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 21:08 |
| Darak | Good evening | 21:09 |
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| rork | Good evening Darak | 21:12 |
| Darak | Hello, I'm new here | 21:13 |
| rork | So I thought, do you need help with any problems or are you just checking out this IRC thingy? | 21:17 |
| Darak | a little bit both I think ^^' | 21:17 |
| rork | :) | 21:18 |
| Darak | ( I'm french, sorry if I made somes mistakes ) | 21:18 |
| rork | Well, this is a help channel so if you have any questions you can just ask them. For chat there are the offtopic channels like #kubuntu-offtopic but that one isn't realy active either | 21:19 |
| rork | Don't worry about your english, it seems fine and there are many non-native english speakers here | 21:20 |
| Darak | Ok thanks, I were on Windows and recently install Ubuntu. And I've got some strange bug ^^ | 21:21 |
| Darak | Ok, are you english ? | 21:21 |
| rork | if you feel more comfortable speaking your own language you can join the french channels too | 21:22 |
| rork | I'm dutch | 21:22 |
| cyberworm54 | whats your issue Darak? | 21:22 |
| Darak | rork: Nice ^^ No it's ok I like to speak in english too. | 21:23 |
| Darak | cyberworm54: Hi, I don't want to do it now, it's not urgent yet :) | 21:24 |
| Darak | But for examples: when I boot, my pc shutdown automatically. And sometimes it works. | 21:25 |
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| jbwiv | guys, I was listening to amarok earlier. However, it froze, I killed it. Now, upon restarting, even though it seems to be playing mp3s there is no sound. I have sound from other applications like firefox. I've checked for hung amarok process and don't see any. any ideas on how to fix without a reboot? | 22:22 |
| BluesKaj | jbwiv, try starting amarok from the terminal and pastebin the output | 22:28 |
| jbwiv | BluesKaj, actually, now all sound has stopped :-/ does kde on ubuntu use pulseaudio? is restarting it as simple as killing the daemon? | 22:34 |
| BluesKaj | jbwiv, ok run pulseaudio in the cli or krunner (alt+f2)' | 22:36 |
| BluesKaj | jbwiv, yes pulseaudio is installed by default | 22:37 |
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| andres__ | how could I create a password in a ZIP file using KDE Dolphin? | 23:26 |
| Ddpbf | right click onf file or folder | 23:27 |
| Ddpbf | and select option compress | 23:27 |
| andres__ | ok...but if I need to set a password? | 23:30 |
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