[00:26] <Peyam> hi
[00:26] <Peyam> kubuntu and ubuntu sucks
[00:28] <szal> fine for you..  if you have grounded complaints, file bugs..  if you just want to brag, gtfo
[01:15] <szal> yofel: a word on the status of KDE 4.7.4 for Oneiric?
[01:15] <amason> szal: 4.7.4 will probably be available oneiric after the packages for precise have been made.
[01:16] <szal> amason: is that in the works atm?
[01:16] <amason> it's been in the works since shortly after 4.7.4 came out i think.
[01:17] <amason> i am unsure what exactly the blockers are or if there are any...it could just be in the build queue
[01:17] <amason> there is a decent amount of changes going on atm so that wouldn't surprise me.
[01:22] <szal> amason: I heard of a case of a garbled system w/ 4.7.4 on openSUSE the other day
[01:24] <amason> oh ok. i haven't built 4.7.4 myself yet so i can't really comment. but i know that the kubuntu devs are pretty busy at the moment so in terms of getting 4.7.4 it's probably a case of when it's ready it will be in the repos
[01:25] <szal> I suppose so, but I guess it's been at least a week already that it was released
[01:26] <szal> (#kde doesn't have that info in the topic any more)
[01:26] <amason> well if they choose 4.8 for precise then it may not hit oneric at all
[01:27] <amason> are you looking for a specific change / fix in 4.7.4 ?
[01:27] <amason> if so you can probably just build that subsystem
[01:27]  * szal was guessing the other day that they'd be going for 4.7.5 in Precise due to it being an LTS
[01:28] <szal> amason: Okular in 4.7.3 doesn't print correctly; top margin is ignored and print begins at what is set as top margin in the settings dialog
[01:28] <amason> well precise isn't going to be released till 12.04 and theoretically 4.8 will be released then
[01:28] <amason> so it really depends what the devs feel comfortable supporting for 5 years
[01:29] <amason> my guess is that if 4.8 is looking reasonable they will go for that
[01:29] <amason> given that they will get at least 3 minor updates to 4.8
[01:29] <szal> my guess was that in April we'll have 4.8.1, and that is traditionally far from bug-free
[01:30] <szal> the .1 release, that is
[01:30] <amason> yeh but that isn't necesarily better from a suppport perspecitive :)
[01:30] <szal> exactly
[01:31] <amason> so unless 4.8 is fairly broken i'll hazzard to guess a buggy but upstream supported release will be included over a less buggy / less featured / less supported release for an LTS
[01:32] <amason> 5 years is a long time and if someone can do some of that work for you it's an awefully big carrot
[01:35] <szal> ah, just found the repo; gonna update my testbed system to 4.7.4 (openSUSE 12.1) & see what it's like
[01:37] <amason> opensuse has some good rolling repos i think
[01:37] <amason> if only it didn't use YaST i'd consider it for my desktop
[01:39] <szal> amason: nothing wrong w/ YaST :)
[01:40] <amason> not saying there is anything wrong with it , it's just not my cup of tea.
[02:18] <szal> amason: http://www.abload.de/img/20111214_fullscreenx6pxb.png <- just for the lulz, KDE 4.7.4, openSUSE 12.1..  no desktop effects (legacy gfx driver makes KDE not run w/ effects on), few customizations (UI font (yes, that is Ubuntu, and I think it looks better on SUSE ;)), window title bar, clock font colour)
[02:18] <amason> nice
[02:19] <amason> i have recently obtained a sandy bridge machine with an intel graphics chip, the difference in experience is night an day
[02:19] <amason> i have other systems, ati and nvidia which theoretically are 'better' cards
[02:20] <amason> but the general desktop performance with the intel drivers is just wonderful
[02:20] <amason> completely changes how i use the desktop
[03:04] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[03:04] <kamilnadeem> how to get trash back in the places menu, dolphin? I deleted it accidentally?
[03:05] <AlexZion> right click , add ....I guess ...
[03:05] <AlexZion> and then ....
[03:06] <AlexZion> just put trash:/    it should works ...
[03:23] <kamilnadeem> AlexZion: I did that but trash is giving me problems
[03:23] <kamilnadeem> I am unable to move files to trash
[03:24] <kamilnadeem> this error comes up "The trash has reached its maximum size!
[03:24] <kamilnadeem> Cleanup the trash manually."
[03:24] <kamilnadeem> I deleted the files manually
[03:24] <kamilnadeem> but still no luck
[03:24] <AlexZion> yeah , so probably you have to much stuff in the trash
[03:25] <kamilnadeem> also the permissions is acting strange
[03:25] <kamilnadeem> http://i.imgur.com/d53Hb.jpg
[03:26] <AlexZion> ok , you were doing something strange before it happened ..... ?
[03:27] <kamilnadeem> nothing that i remember
[03:28] <AlexZion> well , mine is the same ...
[03:28] <AlexZion> so nothing strange for me ...
[03:31] <kamilnadeem> brb
[03:38] <kamilnadeem>  Option 1 from here http://unsolicitedbutoffered.blogspot.com/2011/07/trash-has-reached-its-maximum-size.html worked
[03:39] <snowrichard> hi
[03:45] <amason> szal: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[03:46] <amason> 4.8 for precise, oneiric wil get get 4.7.4 after that has been packaged by the looks of it
[03:47] <OerHeks> just got 4.7.4 tru kubuntu/ppa
[03:47] <szal> nice :)
[04:01] <robin0800> OerHeks: is that the 4.7.3 ppa or a different one?
[04:05] <OerHeks> robin0800, i used this one > https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[04:05] <OerHeks> i never noticed a version in the name.
[04:49] <snowrichard> hello
[04:50] <snowrichard> i switched from the unity interface to kubuntu.... when I tried to use the alt-F7 key in unity it scrambled the graphic
[05:35] <chris122380> why dosen't ubuntu or Kubuntu connect to wpa2?
[05:36] <chris122380> My wireless works fine with wpa, wep, and unsecured networks but not with wpa2
[05:37] <chris122380> I would like to connect to a WPA2 network
[05:38] <chris122380> I have googled it and I am still looking
[05:40] <OerHeks> chris122380, try WPA2 personal in your networkmanager
[05:40] <grade> hi guys! would like to ask my problem regarding usb drive mounting, it doesnt mount automatically when I insert it on usb port
[05:40] <chris122380> I have
[05:41] <chris122380> still dosen't seem to recegnize the key even though i know it's right
[05:42] <chris122380> Looks like a problem for a long time
[05:43] <OerHeks> chris122380, check you router, see if you have mac-filter/acces-list enabled, depends of the type/brand router
[05:43] <chris122380> I am on the Mac filter list
[05:44] <chris122380> I can connect with the same machine useing windows 7
[05:44] <OerHeks> oke, then i have no clue
[05:44] <chris122380> I am trying to use Kubuntu
[05:48] <Guest64093> hi. i liked the mandriva representation of kde. the dash and all. can i do the same in kubuntu? how? help please
[05:49] <chris122380> I am also useing the broadcom legacy driver
[05:50] <amason> Guest64093: you might need to describe how it worked
[05:50] <chris122380> used to be able to connect on ubuntu but can't on kubuntu
[05:51] <amason> Guest64093: alot of people in this channel probably have never used mandriva , myself included
[05:51] <Guest64093> amason: like there is dash interface in gnome3. the same dash interface in kde
[05:51] <amason> i also haven't used gnome3 sorry
[05:51] <Guest64093> ok
[05:51] <Guest64093> nvm
[05:51] <amason> do you have a screenshot ?
[05:51] <Guest64093> sure. juist a min
[05:52] <chris122380> so no wpa2 for me then:-(
[05:52] <chris122380> Can't connect to my HOAs network then
[05:53] <amason> chris122380: ubuntu and kubuntu both use the same kernel
[05:53] <chris122380> I know that
[05:53] <cyberworm54> holla kubuntu community
[05:53] <chris122380> the problem isn't the kernel
[05:53] <amason> can you use nm-applet then ?
[05:53] <chris122380> problem with network manager I believe
[05:54] <amason> k well the only difference between kubuntu / ubuntu wrt to network-manager is the network manager interfaces
[05:54] <amason> so i'd try nm-applet and see if that works
[05:54] <chris122380> nm-applet?
[05:55] <Guest64093> amason: http://imagebin.org/188479 this comes up when we press alt f1
[05:55] <cyberworm54> try to modify the file manually
[05:55] <chris122380> that is the gnome network manager
[05:55] <amason> chris122380: the gnome network manager interface
[05:55] <amason> yeh
[05:55] <chris122380> that would break KDE
[05:55] <amason> break ?
[05:55] <amason> how so ?
[05:56] <chris122380> I just want to have KDE working
[05:56] <cyberworm54> whats the problem? if you dont mind me asking
[05:57] <amason> chris122380: well obviously it doesn't for your particular setup for one reason or another, it could be a bug in kde's network manager in which case your not going to find an immediate answer in irc.
[05:57] <chris122380> How do I get the latest KDE network manager
[05:58] <amason> use the latest version of kde 4.7.4
[05:58] <chris122380> How do I get the network manager for kde 4.7.4?
[05:58] <amason> Guest64093: you could try the plasma layout...right click -> layout -> search and launch
[05:59] <amason> chris122380: it comes with kde 4.7.4
[05:59] <chris122380> that still dosen't tell me anything
[05:59] <chris122380> How do I re-install network manager?
[06:00] <amason> network manager != kde's network manager interface. if ubuntu works for you but kubuntu doesn't then the problem is in the kde interface to network manager
[06:01] <chris122380> I understand that but how do I do a reinstall of network manager?
[06:01] <amason> if you use the kubuntu ppa and install kde 4.7.4 you get _the_ lastest released version of kde's interface to network manager
[06:01] <amason> latest*
[06:01] <amason> apt-get install --reinstall
[06:01] <amason> i think
[06:02] <amason> might need to look at the exact flags
[06:02] <chris122380> yes but what is the package name for the kde network manager?
[06:02] <cyberworm54> network-manager-gnome
[06:03] <amason> network-manager-kde is kubuntu's
[06:03] <cyberworm54> network-manager-kde
[06:04] <chris122380> need to reboot thank you. We shell see if this works if not then i'll look for kubuntu ppa
[06:09] <szal> 4.7.4 is noticeably speedier than 4.7.3
[06:14] <szal> PDF printing w/ Okular is fixed :)
[06:18] <szal> though tray notification 'speech bubbles' still have a border where there shouldn't be one
[07:23] <bodoh> who hates amarok?
[07:23] <bodoh> and what do you use now?
[07:24] <cyberworm54> audacius
[07:24] <cyberworm54> *audacious
[07:25] <szal> Audacious on *buntu is ancient
[07:25] <cyberworm54> it does the job for me :)
[07:25] <szal> not bad, but severely outdated
[07:37] <jussi> bodoh: I like amarok. but if you want similar to old amarok, check out clementine:
[07:38] <jussi> !info clementine
[08:10] <bodoh> hi list ... what is the default webcam app that comes with kubuntu?
[08:11] <bodoh> my laptop has the webcam
[08:13] <cyberworm54> I use camorama
[08:24] <bodoh> thanks cyberworm54
[08:25] <bodoh> since when linux needs restarting (like Windows)???
[08:25] <bodoh> this kubuntu wants a restart after I installed camorama!!
[08:26] <bodoh> that gesture is maybe just a salute to Windows
[08:28] <EvilResistance> probly also needed a kernel upgrade :P
[08:29] <jjman6> i'm having problems installing .Net Framework v4 in wine.  it just crashes b4 it can finish
[08:29] <cyberworm54> I am nost sure but i think .Net depends on some core dlls like shell 32 crypto 32
[08:37] <EvilResistance> jjman6:  thats a wine issue
[08:37] <EvilResistance> jjman6:  i'd check in the wine support channels
[08:38] <EvilResistance> i'm not sure if they're here on freenode though
[08:38] <jjman6> sigh
[08:38] <cyberworm54> chek that out http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17886
[09:42] <gribouille> kde 4.7.4 is available isn' it?
[09:44] <gribouille> someone here?
[09:46] <gribouille> someone here?
[10:11] <darthanubis> 4.7.4 is in the kubuntu ppa repo for 11.10<< Should be on the KUBUNTU homepage soon, and NOT DEBIAN's of course.
[10:17] <KjetilK> I get Internal Server Errors on the Kubuntu wiki now
[10:17] <KjetilK> e.g. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot
[10:21] <KjetilK> since I can't check the FAQ, I'll just ask: What is the status for 4.7.3 or 4.7.4 packages?
[10:21] <KjetilK> will they enter oneiric-updates?
[10:27] <grade_> is there a way that i could automatically mount may usb drive when I insert it
[10:28] <grade_> im using 11.10
[10:28] <ray1claw> whats the name of the telepathy IM client on kubuntu? I need to install it, really fed up with Kopete
[10:29] <ray1claw> grade_: system settings>removable devices
[10:45] <gorgonizer> ray1claw: it is telepathy-kde
[10:46] <ray1claw> gorgonizer: is it a complete client? or just a backend?
[10:46] <gorgonizer> though you might need the PPA at    ppa:telepathy-kde/ppa
[10:47] <gorgonizer> it is a complete replacement for Kopete on the whole, though I am having FB Chat issues with Telepathy, but MSN and GTalk work fine..
[10:48] <gorgonizer> The PPA has the KDE specific parts for Telepathy, the rest of telepathy should be in the normal Ubuntu repos..
[10:48] <ray1claw> hmm, you can try using <username>@chat.facebook.com on jabber with that.. it works okay in kopete
[10:48] <jtheuer> hey, how can I verify the actual graphics driver used by X? (now that we don't have a config anymore *g*)
[10:49] <gorgonizer> ray1claw: it connects in Telepathy, then just disconnects after a while, which then needs me to enter my KWallet password and I get annoyed, so I disabled FB chat in Telepathy and just have it in Kopete until I get it working..
[10:53] <ray1claw> :)
[11:01] <grade_> thanks ray1claw
[11:25] <grade> hi ray1claw.! already check the the usb devices on removable devices but still it cant mount automatically the usbdev
[12:15] <twn39> it seems that ibus doesn't work on kubuntu 11.10?!
[12:40] <Peace-> twn39: ?
[12:40] <Peace-> why
[12:49] <twn39> i don't know,it didn't display the input panel when I type in chinese.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:54] <Peace-> twn39: mmm what kind of software you are using
[12:56] <twn39> ?  ibus-pinyin
[12:57] <Peace-> twn39: i am sorry but being italian i can't figure out the issue because i can't even image what's the issue with chinese\japanese stuff, coudl you explain better what you r trying to do ?
[12:58] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have written well?
[12:58] <Peace-> have i xD
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Peace-, yes , very well
[13:01] <Peace-> :)
[13:03] <twn39> i'm sorry ,i'm a chinese and know little english,i must type chinese words with ibus,but it seems doesn't work
[13:04] <BluesKaj> one thing Peace- , image works, but the word imagine works better:)
[13:06] <BarkingFish> twn39: which dialect of Chinese do you write in? Mandarin, or Cantonese?
[13:08] <twn39> Mandarin
[13:08] <BarkingFish> I write some chinese, but I'm not good.  If you don't understand what I say, please tell me :)
[13:10]  * BarkingFish will be with you in a moment, this is slow :)
[13:10] <BarkingFish> 您在中國本地化您的系統，並選擇一個中文鍵盤嗎？
[13:11] <Peace-> twn39: i dunno but try to do this ; open KONSOLE  then type thsi :  QT_IM_MODULE=ibus-qt4 kate
[13:11] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, it would be best if you guys went private or got help from the chinese chat
[13:12] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: ubuntu-zh has only two people in it
[13:12] <BarkingFish> there is no help from there, I'd say :)
[13:12] <BluesKaj> !cn
[13:12] <BarkingFish> ah
[13:13] <BarkingFish> I simply wanted to know if twn39 understand me first, my chinese is appalling, i've only been learning for about 6 months.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> right, well he wants help with ibus
[13:14] <Peace-> i guess he has to install  sudo apt-get install ibus-qt4
[13:14] <twn39> yes i can understand
[13:14] <BarkingFish> Yeah, I saw - I asked him if he'd actually localized his system in Chinese, and selected a chinese keyboard :)
[13:15] <BarkingFish> usually, it sorta self configures any packages you need when you change locale...
[13:16] <twn39> i selected a usa keyboard ,Does it matter?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> bbl..I hope...major update/upgrade on 12.04 just now ..reboot
[13:17] <twn39> ok thank you
[13:18] <BarkingFish> twn39: if you have a chinese keyboard, it helps.
[13:19] <BarkingFish> 現在我必須去。您可以加入 的 #ubuntu-cn 或 #ubuntu-tw - 他們會幫你多我可以
[13:19] <BarkingFish> Sorry guys, I've got to go.
[13:20] <BarkingFish> I've been called away, so I've explained that, and directed twn39 to relevant channels he can get help from.
[13:20] <BarkingFish> Sorry for the chinese in channel, I was using the wrong language codes to search for somewhere :)
[13:21] <BarkingFish> 再見了，twn39 - 我希望你好運！
[13:22] <twn39> bye
[13:24] <Deathbringer> hey
[13:25] <Deathbringer> there is no back arrow now at the kde kickoff menu. how can i fix that?
[13:26] <Peace-> Deathbringer: you can't
[13:27] <Deathbringer> Peace-, is this a bug or intentional?
[13:28] <Peace-> Deathbringer: intentional
[13:28] <Peace-> Deathbringer: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopxi1883
[13:28] <Peace-> Deathbringer: if you look there is graphics up
[13:28] <Peace-> click in application and you will go back
[13:29] <Deathbringer> Peace-, yeah i know
[13:29] <Deathbringer> but it isnt so handy
[13:29] <Peace-> Deathbringer: wel i agrre with oyu :D
[13:29] <Peace-> agree
[13:29] <Peace-> mmm you
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Deathbringer, click on all applications , at the top of the frame
[13:29] <Deathbringer> Peace-, at this point i prefer the classic menu
[13:30] <Deathbringer> Peace-, do you know how can i install the lancelot menu?
[13:30] <Peace-> Deathbringer: of course
[13:30] <Deathbringer> i cant find it in widgets
[13:30] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-lancelot
[13:31]  * BluesKaj wishes ppl would leave their gamenicks behind
[13:31] <Peace-> i did this :D sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-*
[13:31] <Peace-> xD
[13:31] <Deathbringer> i will do that too
[13:31] <Deathbringer> i like widgets
[13:32] <Deathbringer> 154mb to get
[13:34] <Peace-> who cares :D i have 130 ggs
[13:35] <Deathbringer> Peace-, how can i stop kde-login from autostarting?
[13:36] <Peace-> Deathbringer: systemsettings
[13:37] <Deathbringer> i think i will move to a tiling manager like xmonad
[13:37] <Deathbringer> and just use qt-based apps of kde in there
[13:37] <Peace-> Deathbringer: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopdk1883
[13:38] <Deathbringer> i saw that before
[13:38] <Peace-> system settings , then filter with :: login
[13:40] <Deathbringer> Peace-, it doesnt say how to disable it
[13:40] <Deathbringer> under login screen
[13:40] <Peace-> enagle autologin
[13:40] <Peace-> enable
[13:40] <Deathbringer> no i mean stop kdm
[13:40] <Deathbringer> i want just to see tty1
[13:40] <Deathbringer> after boot
[13:40] <Deathbringer> and type startx
[13:40] <Peace-> mm
[13:41] <Peace-> i guess removing kdm i would be nice but i guess you canset that on kdm window
[13:41] <Deathbringer> is it an init script?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Deathbringer, just click on the enable autologin and it will grey out (disable)
[13:41] <BluesKaj> make sure it's not checked
[13:41] <Deathbringer> BluesKaj, its nto enabled now
[13:41] <Deathbringer> its not checked
[13:41] <Deathbringer> but i still get kdm on boot
[13:41] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Deathbringer, what exactly do you want , grub?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> if you enable autologin it by passes grub and the login page
[13:43] <Peace-> BluesKaj: he want login via terminal
[13:43] <Peace-> BluesKaj: boot ==> login via terminal i have seen this on university
[13:43] <Peace-> i guess they have removed kdm
[13:44] <BluesKaj> I think that's a setting in grub
[13:44] <BluesKaj>  /etc/default/grub
[13:47] <BluesKaj> in /etc/default/grub , find the line
[13:47] <BluesKaj> # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[13:47] <BluesKaj> #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[13:47] <BluesKaj> uncomment those lines
[13:48] <yofel_> uhm, to NOT start kdm, you run: 'echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/kdm.override'
[13:48] <yofel> then when you need it: sudo service kdm start
[13:49] <yofel> Deathbringer: ^
[13:49] <BluesKaj> well , not the Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[13:49] <BluesKaj> and sudo updaye-grub
[13:49] <BluesKaj> err update-grub
[13:49] <Deathbringer> yofel, yeah i wanted to stop the service
[13:51] <Deathbringer> yofel, i am not sure what your command does though
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Deathbringer, sudo update-grub is very important , otherwise your changes won't stick
[13:51] <yofel> Deathbringer: creates a /etc/init/kdm.override with "manual" in it
[13:51] <yofel> which tells upstart not to auto-start kdm on boot
[13:52] <Deathbringer> yofel, i could just "  echo manual >> /etc/init/kdm.override " then
[13:52] <Deathbringer> or >
[13:52] <yofel> as root sure
[13:52] <Deathbringer> to overwrite
[13:52] <yofel> right
[13:53] <Deathbringer> bash is a nice language
[13:53] <Deathbringer> i wonder why many people use perl/python for system tasks
[13:53]  * BluesKaj doen't understand the reasons for this , kdm will eventaully be needed anyway
[13:54] <Deathbringer> how can i install all ubuntu packages?
[13:54] <Deathbringer> like if i had installed ubuntu livecd
[13:55] <Deathbringer> not kubuntu
[13:55] <Deathbringer> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> default packages , ubuntu-desltop
[13:56] <BluesKaj> desktop
[13:56] <Deathbringer> then it will be same thing as ubuntu?
[13:56] <Deathbringer> kubuntu and ubuntu have the same repositories also?
[13:56] <yofel> same archive
[13:56] <Deathbringer> what do you mean by archive?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> you'll still ahve the kubuntu packages
[13:56] <Deathbringer> BluesKaj, yeah i know
[13:57] <Deathbringer> i can choose kde or gnome on boot
[13:57] <yofel> well, repository
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Deathbringer, you'll have alot of duplication of apps in both kde and gnome that do the same tasks
[13:58] <Deathbringer> BluesKaj, yeah
[13:59] <Deathbringer> well instead of dual booting ubuntu and kubuntu i think its better to have both
[13:59] <Deathbringer> i want to try gnome shell (gnome 3)
[13:59] <BluesKaj> yes, agreed
[13:59] <Deathbringer> generally i try many environments
[15:09] <Peace-> BluesKaj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBevboa6RII&feature=youtu.be
[15:29] <kupholder> ello
[17:39] <cire> hi, I am using kmail 4.7.2, and can't connect to my imap server anymore. akonadi states everything was fine, but kmail can't update the folder
[17:39] <[Relic]> how do I get flash to work on kubuntu
[17:42] <DemonWitch> hey
[17:42] <cire> [Relic]: I have installed  packet flashplugin-installer
[17:43] <DemonWitch> how do i deactivate the kubuntu loading screen? (on boot and shutdown)
[17:43] <[Relic]> it won't install
[17:44] <cire> [Relic]: what does it say?
[17:44] <cire> DemonWitch: which version?
[17:44] <DemonWitch> cire, the latest
[17:45] <cire> I think you have to change the kernel boot params
[17:45] <cire> used to that?
[17:45] <[Relic]> (npviewer.bin:7083): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqtcurve.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[17:45] <cire> [Relic]: this happens when installing a package?
[17:46] <cire> or only when installing flash package?
[17:46] <[Relic]> thinking mone part got installed and the other didn't
[17:46] <[Relic]> this is flash; they renamed the packages when they moved to the new version
[17:47] <cire> [Relic]: So it _did_ install, but is not running correctly, right?
[17:47] <[Relic]> this time
[17:48] <[Relic]> removed both listed pakages through apt so hopefully a new install will work
[17:48] <cire> ok
[17:48] <[Relic]> now it is back to not working and wrong elf class
[17:49] <cire> [Relic]: did you change somehow from 32 to 64 bit?
[17:49] <cire> all I find concerning you topic seems to be platform related
[17:50] <[Relic]> been 64 all the time
[17:50] <[Relic]> got them both removed from apt-get, now will try apper to install but not sure if I select one or both
[17:51] <cire> what do you mean by "both"?
[17:51] <cire> what are they called?
[17:53] <[Relic]> flashplugin-downloader and flashplugin-installer
[17:53] <cire> -downloader is uninstalled here. -installer works fine.
[17:53] <cire> I think you're right, this was the old version
[17:53] <[Relic]> they both say the same thing
[17:54] <cire> weird, apt-cache show tells me -installer depends on -downloader
[17:54] <cire> I have only installer
[17:54] <[Relic]> won't work
[17:55] <[Relic]> installer wants to use downloader and the say it can't configure it
[17:55] <cire> [Relic]: did you try installing it via console?
[17:55] <cire> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:55] <cire> so you get the apt output
[17:56] <[Relic]> tried removing one via apt and the other one then installs
[17:57] <cire> I just don't get it... dpkg -l *flash* tells me -downloader is uninstalled, trying to install it manually gets me "is latest version"
[17:57] <cire> what the hell...
[17:57] <[Relic]> welcome to my problem
[17:58] <[Relic]> wonder if flash aid was brought up to normal
[17:58] <cire> I was using debian for years and switched to (k)ubuntu a few days ago. So either this is (k)ubuntu related, or just rubbish
[17:59] <cire> okay, apt-get policy tells me -downloader is installed
[17:59] <BarkingFish> Guys, just wondering if you could help me - I want to burn a set of AVI's to a DVD, so that when you open the DVD, you get a menu, thumbnails of the episodes, etc - is there any good software for making video DVDs which don't require you to have Video_RM and Video_TS files?
[18:00] <cire> BarkingFish: these menus and stuff are part of the video DVD spec as I remember, and so are VIDEO_TS and stuff. You can't use one without the other, Iimho
[18:01] <cire> but perhaps an expert will tell sth other
[18:01] <BarkingFish> hm. And all I have are AVIs. I've never made a Video DVD before, much less tried to figure out what goes where...
[18:02] <cire> BarkingFish: I did never do that, but there should be tools converting your avis to mpeg2 (VIDEO_TS format) and adding menus.
[18:02] <cire> but expect them to get larger than the avis
[18:03] <[Relic]> k3b has a new video CD/DVD options; not sure if that handles that automatically or not since I have never used it
[18:03] <cire> this VIDEO_TS stuff is made for running in hardware decoders as DVD players, so it may not be that efficient in encoding
[18:04] <BarkingFish> cire: yeah, which won't help.  I have a 52 episode series to put on dvd, at roughly 176MB per episode
[18:04] <BarkingFish> if I convert those to mpeg2ts, they'll be freaking huge :(
[18:05] <cire> BarkingFish: so get rid of those menu stuff ;)
[18:05] <cire> BarkingFish: where is it supposed to run?
[18:05] <cire> hardware dvd players, or just computers?
[18:05] <BarkingFish> cire: I wanted to do the menu, so I could make it look a little more...professional.. I'm learning new things, and can't "not" do them, just because it's complicated :)
[18:06] <BarkingFish> hardware dvd player
[18:06] <BarkingFish> I want something I can take out of my machine and watch in bed of a night, or when I'm relaxing.
[18:06] <cire> BarkingFish: so you're lost. imho it is not complicated, it is useless. You can either make a proper video DVD and following the specs, or ignore them and let the menus go
[18:07] <BarkingFish> I'll flip open kdenlive and see how big an mpeg2 transport stream comes out at.
[18:08] <cire> BarkingFish: I don't think you will succeed in putting all the episodes on one disk with mpeg2
[18:08] <cire> but yeah, give it a try
[18:08] <cire> and tell me how big it was, never tried it :)
[18:08] <BarkingFish> Maybe not on one disk, I can break it down into two or three maybe, depends how big the files come out at
[18:09] <BarkingFish> well I'll soon see, I'm sucking the first episode into kdenlive now...
[18:09] <cire> BarkingFish: Why are you using kdenlive for that?!
[18:09] <BarkingFish> because it's all I have, and all I know how to use.
[18:10] <cire> thats a powerful non linear video editing system. You just need a file conversion tool, right?
[18:10] <BarkingFish> Why do you think I was asking for help with other video editors??? :)
[18:10] <cire> I would do it in the commandline, but there are tons of frontends for these commandline converters
[18:10] <cire> wait
[18:10] <BarkingFish> ok
[18:11] <cire> BarkingFish: give avidemux a try
[18:12] <BarkingFish> i have no idea how to use it, but anything's worth a shot
[18:13] <BarkingFish> Holy grud on a green stick.
[18:13] <cire> BarkingFish: it is very straightforward
[18:13] <BarkingFish> 1 avi file, 176mb  -  sent out to .mpg at a reasonable video rate, resized and deinterlace...
[18:14] <BarkingFish> 380.46MB, estimated render time: 05:42:11
[18:15] <cire> yeah
[18:15] <BarkingFish> I'm like, what the ....
[18:15] <cire> but you also have to take care of the audio stream
[18:15] <cire> hardware dvd players don't play mp3 afaik
[18:15] <cire> but I am no expert for this
[18:16] <[Relic]> this is getting annoying
[18:16] <BarkingFish> [Relic]: what is getting annoying?
[18:17] <[Relic]> not getting flash running
[19:18] <DemonWitch> hey
[19:19] <DemonWitch> how can i disable kdm? after boot just get a console login
[19:24] <Peace-> DemonWitch: http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/07/24/tip-disable-gdm-kdm-or-xdm-from-starting-up-automatically/
[19:27] <cyberworm54> jsut change the rinleverl to 3
[19:27] <cyberworm54> *just change the runlevel to 3
[19:27] <cyberworm54> in the inittab file
[19:27] <cyberworm54> and reboot
[19:27] <cyberworm54> :)
[19:28] <Pici> !inittab | cyberworm54
[19:28] <Pici> !text | DemonWitch
[19:28] <DemonWitch> Pici, i tried it didnt work
[19:28] <Pici> Really?
[19:28] <Pici> hm
[19:28] <DemonWitch> yes i will now stop the service kdm running
[19:28] <DemonWitch> using update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[19:28] <DemonWitch> or kdm
[21:06] <Darak> Bonsoir
[21:08] <rork> !fr | Darak
[21:09] <Darak> Good evening
[21:12] <rork> Good evening Darak
[21:13] <Darak> Hello, I'm new here
[21:17] <rork> So I thought, do you need help with any problems or are you just checking out this IRC thingy?
[21:17] <Darak> a little bit both I think ^^'
[21:18] <rork> :)
[21:18] <Darak> ( I'm french, sorry if I made somes mistakes )
[21:19] <rork> Well, this is a help channel so if you have any questions you can just ask them. For chat there are the offtopic channels like #kubuntu-offtopic but that one isn't realy active either
[21:20] <rork> Don't worry about your english, it seems fine and there are many non-native english speakers here
[21:21] <Darak> Ok thanks, I were on Windows and recently install Ubuntu. And I've got some strange bug ^^
[21:21] <Darak> Ok, are you english ?
[21:22] <rork> if you feel more comfortable speaking your own language you can  join the french channels too
[21:22] <rork> I'm dutch
[21:22] <cyberworm54> whats your issue Darak?
[21:23] <Darak> rork: Nice ^^ No it's ok I like to speak in english too.
[21:24] <Darak> cyberworm54: Hi, I don't want to do it now, it's not  urgent yet :)
[21:25] <Darak> But for examples: when I boot, my pc shutdown automatically. And sometimes it works.
[22:22] <jbwiv> guys, I was listening to amarok earlier. However, it froze, I killed it. Now, upon restarting, even though it seems to be playing mp3s there is no sound. I have sound from other applications like firefox. I've checked for hung amarok process and don't see any. any ideas on how to fix without a reboot?
[22:28] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, try starting amarok from the terminal and pastebin the output
[22:34] <jbwiv> BluesKaj, actually, now all sound has stopped :-/ does kde on ubuntu use pulseaudio? is restarting it as simple as killing the daemon?
[22:36] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, ok run pulseaudio in the cli or krunner (alt+f2)'
[22:37] <BluesKaj> jbwiv, yes pulseaudio is installed by default
[23:26] <andres__> how could I create a password in a ZIP file using KDE Dolphin?
[23:27] <Ddpbf> right click onf file or folder
[23:27] <Ddpbf> and select option compress
[23:30] <andres__> ok...but if I need to set a password?