dscassel | Meeting in 10 | 00:50 |
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dscassel | Hi all! | 00:59 |
dscassel | DarwinSurvivor jaguar Kamondelious khoover MylesBraithwaite BluesKaj Drone4four Jeruvy KombuchaKip pangolin BobJonkman Kulag perilouspillow willwh bregma FiReSTaRT kavurt ryanakca zeroedout cyphermox jaguar kenjy mars sipherdee zul | 01:00 |
dscassel | Meeting time! | 01:01 |
bregma | hello! | 01:01 |
Drone4four | hi | 01:01 |
dscassel | Hi bregma, Drone4four :D | 01:01 |
dscassel | Please introduce yourself. Who are you, where are you and what do you do on/with/for Ubuntu? | 01:01 |
dscassel | I'm Darcy in Waterloo, ON, and I'm a LoCo contact for Ubuntu Canada. I'll be chairing this meeting. | 01:02 |
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dscassel | Agenda here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-12-13 | 01:02 |
dscassel | Thanks Bob. :) | 01:03 |
BobJonkman | Hi all: Bob Jonkman, from Elmira, in Waterloo | 01:03 |
bregma | I'm Stephen, from the back woods of Lanark County Ontario, I'm an inveterate hacker and Ubuntu and Debian contributor | 01:03 |
txwikinger | Hi dscassel | 01:03 |
dscassel | Hi txwikinger :) | 01:04 |
* BobJonkman is having some trouble removing focus from a hidden window. Perhaps a Compiz #Fail | 01:05 | |
bregma | BobJonkman, what version of Ubuntu are you running? | 01:06 |
bregma | that compiz bug happened alot in 10.04 | 01:06 |
dscassel | I'm getting a drink. Settle in and introduce yourself if you haven't already. | 01:08 |
BobJonkman | bregma: It's Ubuntu 11.10. Just switched from Gnome3 to gnome-fallback-session | 01:09 |
bregma | urgh | 01:09 |
BobJonkman | I'm finally productive again, but there are still little things | 01:09 |
dscassel | It's a short agenda. | 01:10 |
dscassel | First up: Past Events. | 01:10 |
dscassel | Bob, you had UDS on the list. I thought we talked about that last time... | 01:10 |
BobJonkman | It was actually going on during the last meeting. | 01:10 |
dscassel | I guess we were mid-UDS... | 01:10 |
BobJonkman | I thought maybe someone had a summary | 01:11 |
BobJonkman | Not me though. | 01:11 |
* BobJonkman is a homebody | 01:11 | |
dscassel | I didn't sit on too many sessions after our meeting last time. | 01:11 |
dscassel | bregma: were you there? | 01:11 |
bregma | I was | 01:11 |
dscassel | Anything awesome? :) | 01:12 |
bregma | Mono was supposed to be removed from the CD, but that's not cast in stone | 01:12 |
bregma | Canonical is looking at putting Ubuntu on TVs, tablets, and phones | 01:12 |
bregma | and something about the server, juju, things like that I don't pat attention to | 01:13 |
dscassel | The ISO will no longer fit on a CD... | 01:13 |
bregma | yes, that's the problem | 01:13 |
dscassel | The LoCo Council session about province teams was somewhat dissatisfying. I tried to make our case on IRC, but I don't think the room was paying attention to the channel. | 01:14 |
BobJonkman | I saw your (dscassel) comments on Jono's update today | 01:15 |
dscassel | According to this: http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/12/13/loco-council-goings-on-in-12-04/ they've decided to give some recognition to city teams. | 01:15 |
dscassel | Yeah. :) | 01:15 |
dscassel | I had a blog post about city teams a month ago: http://www.flyingsquirrel.ca/index.php/2011/11/04/recognizing-city-teams/ | 01:15 |
BobJonkman | I got the idea from that they *weren't* going to give any love to City teams | 01:15 |
BobJonkman | that == Jono's post | 01:16 |
dscassel | From Jono's post: "as a compromize, a field on teams pages on the LoCo Teams Portal would be created to add a contact for a city." | 01:16 |
dscassel | (Jono's getting going a little overboard with his Americanization) | 01:17 |
BobJonkman | Well, as with the last meeting, I'd like to continue on just as we are. There's Ubuntu-ca-kw and others too | 01:18 |
dscassel | I just want to the LC to recognize that LoCos are composed of city teams (with a bit of administration and resources at the national/state level) even though they don't deal with cities directly. | 01:18 |
dscassel | Yeah, pretty much. :) | 01:19 |
dscassel | Right now, Ubuntu Canada is Waterloo, Toronto, and your town once you start it up. :D | 01:19 |
bregma | nothing from the wet coast? | 01:20 |
dscassel | The Vancouver LoCo is independent. | 01:21 |
dscassel | And Quebec is its own LoCo. | 01:21 |
BobJonkman | But the LoCo council won't prevent us from organizing City events, so it really makes no difference, does it? | 01:23 |
cyphermox | right | 01:23 |
dscassel | Not really. | 01:23 |
willwh | hey guys - can't take part tonight, sorry, contracting - firefighting atm :) | 01:23 |
willwh | g'luck | 01:23 |
txwikinger | I wouidn't get ro worked up about the council | 01:24 |
txwikinger | too | 01:24 |
dscassel | I'm trying to get the LoCo Council to at least recognize that city teams exist within LoCos so that they can be more discoverable and people realize there's a role they can fill. | 01:24 |
dscassel | Like I said in the blog post, though, most of that work we can do ourselves. | 01:25 |
txwikinger | We should focus more about what we can do | 01:25 |
dscassel | Yeah, true. | 01:25 |
txwikinger | I think there might be some interest in Brantford | 01:25 |
txwikinger | So I will further explore and develop that | 01:25 |
cyphermox | dscassel: isn't that the purpose of city "contacts" within a loco? | 01:26 |
txwikinger | And I think everybody can do similar things where they are locally | 01:26 |
dscassel | cyphermox: Yeah. And I'm happy about that development. We'll see how it pans out. | 01:26 |
cyphermox | yeah | 01:26 |
BobJonkman | UCADay? | 01:26 |
dscassel | Sure. | 01:27 |
dscassel | Thanks for the shout out Bob. :) | 01:27 |
BobJonkman | Hooray for dscassel and txwikinger | 01:27 |
dscassel | I wanted to write a blog post, but I ended up getting swamped with work. | 01:27 |
dscassel | I probably should do it anyway. 9_9 | 01:27 |
* txwikinger too | 01:28 | |
dscassel | Thanks for your help with the LoCo directory, Ubuntu Hour and meeting minutes, Bob. :D | 01:28 |
dscassel | Every day should be UCADay. :) | 01:29 |
BobJonkman | UCADay is one of those things that shouldn't need to exist. Thanx should be spread around every day | 01:29 |
BobJonkman | :) | 01:29 |
BobJonkman | But now that it's here it can be another rallying point for an event | 01:29 |
txwikinger | It is always easy to looik at some visible leaders | 01:30 |
txwikinger | I think UCA is to appreciate the people who are not getting appreciation on a regular basis | 01:30 |
txwikinger | Like the person that came to the last Ubuntu hour with a question | 01:30 |
txwikinger | Or the person that recently decided to use Ubuntu | 01:31 |
dscassel | I'm all for that. | 01:32 |
dscassel | Next! | 01:32 |
dscassel | Upcoming Events | 01:32 |
dscassel | Christmas! | 01:32 |
dscassel | Uh, kinda a slow month. | 01:32 |
txwikinger | Hey.. I said that! | 01:32 |
BobJonkman | Merry Chrishanukwandiwaleid! | 01:33 |
dscassel | There's an Ubuntu Hour tomorrow in Waterloo. | 01:33 |
* txwikinger is on podcasr duty | 01:33 | |
dscassel | There'll (probably) be one Jan 6 in Kitchener. | 01:33 |
dscassel | There's one in your town as soon as you run it! :D | 01:34 |
txwikinger | Are the three wise men coming? | 01:34 |
BobJonkman | There were a couple of impromptu Ubuntu Minutes during NaNoWriMo. | 01:34 |
dscassel | txwikinger: You, Charles and Bob? | 01:34 |
BobJonkman | I gave away a bunch of Ubuntu disks | 01:34 |
dscassel | BobJonkman: That's awesome. | 01:34 |
txwikinger | stop picking onmy white beard | 01:34 |
* dscassel and txwikinger are in the same room, btw. | 01:35 | |
BobJonkman | I was sitting at one NaNo write-in, rotating my Compiz cube, and overheard someone ask "What's That?" and the reply, "Oh, htat's L:inux". | 01:36 |
dscassel | You can see us here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kwartzlab (behind the guys talking about the laser cutter) | 01:36 |
BobJonkman | So I gave them disks | 01:36 |
BobJonkman | Linux seems to be fairly popular amongst the NaNoWriMo crowd | 01:37 |
dscassel | Cool. :D | 01:38 |
dscassel | We have a date for the Global Jam: | 01:38 |
dscassel | March 2-4, 2012 | 01:38 |
BobJonkman | Anything happening for Ubuntu-ca ? | 01:38 |
txwikinger | That is better than last time | 01:38 |
dscassel | Start planning now! | 01:39 |
dscassel | We'll be doing something at Kwartzlab in KW. | 01:39 |
dscassel | (unconfirmed) | 01:39 |
txwikinger | Well. I would say we should slowly start planning | 01:39 |
BobJonkman | dscassel: That'll be a Saturday afternoon at Kwartzlab? | 01:39 |
dscassel | I'll see if Sammy is up for doing anything in Toronto. | 01:39 |
dscassel | BobJonkman: yup. | 01:40 |
dscassel | If you're interested, let us know! | 01:40 |
txwikinger | I will make sure we annouce it early enough in the region | 01:41 |
txwikinger | I think the treehaus people are a good audience | 01:41 |
dscassel | Yeah. I'd like to have a bit more of a plan this time. | 01:41 |
dscassel | I think I said that last time too. | 01:41 |
dscassel | We could ask around for formal talks/presentations on interesting Ubuntu development/QA things. | 01:43 |
dscassel | Maybe I can talk to people at UW (eg, the CSC) about joining us. | 01:45 |
txwikinger | Anybody in other cities willing to organise something? | 01:45 |
txwikinger | If needed | 01:45 |
bregma | what goes on in a global jam? | 01:46 |
txwikinger | we can have the streaming running so there does not need to be a full organisation with presentation etc | 01:46 |
dscassel | bregma: Depends on who's running it and what people want to do. | 01:46 |
dscassel | Easiest thing is install testing for the beta. | 01:46 |
dscassel | Try it out on hardware. | 01:46 |
dscassel | Then there's bug triage. | 01:47 |
dscassel | Or the group can take on a project. | 01:47 |
dscassel | Florida will be running a LoCo Directory dev sprint. | 01:47 |
dscassel | Vancouver did their Unity documentation during a global jam, I think. | 01:48 |
dscassel | Pick a package and give it some love. Stuff like that. | 01:49 |
txwikinger | The thing is to organise a place and time and invite people | 01:49 |
txwikinger | To get some programme together should be not too difficult after that | 01:49 |
txwikinger | And we can work toegther which is in my opinion anyway the idea of a "global" jam | 01:49 |
dscassel | Yeah. If you know who's coming, you can work with their skills and interest. | 01:50 |
BobJonkman | I still haven't seen txwikinger's presentation on bug triage | 01:51 |
txwikinger | I can repeat it if people are aren't bored by it | 01:51 |
dscassel | Never. :) | 01:52 |
hakimsheriff | Hello Everybody | 01:52 |
dscassel | Hi, hakimsheriff :) | 01:52 |
BobJonkman | Hello hakimsheriff | 01:52 |
hakimsheriff | Sorry I missed the meeting, is it still going on? | 01:52 |
BobJonkman | Just talking about the Ubuntu Global Jam | 01:53 |
dscassel | hakimsheriff: Yup, but winding down. | 01:53 |
hakimsheriff | ahh okay, | 01:53 |
dscassel | hakimsheriff: ever been to the Montreal jam? | 01:54 |
dscassel | I guess it was at the Canonical office last time. | 01:54 |
hakimsheriff | No, never, | 01:55 |
BobJonkman | Do you think any of the local high-tech companies would be interested in hosting the Jam? | 01:55 |
dscassel | BobJonkman: You mean in KW? | 01:55 |
dscassel | Possibly, but we've got Kwartzlab which is easier to coordinate. | 01:56 |
pangolin | dscassel: the last bug jam was at the Canonical Montreal offices. | 01:56 |
BobJonkman | I know of some high tech companies in KW. If we can get them interested, they might host in other location s too | 01:56 |
dscassel | BobJonkman: I'm all for more events, but I can only organize one. :) | 01:57 |
BobJonkman | I'm not sure if places like Google, RIM or OpenText would view an Ubuntu event as "The Competition" | 01:58 |
dscassel | OpenText doesn't view Ubuntu as competition. (I happen to know...) | 01:59 |
BobJonkman | Thought you might... | 01:59 |
dscassel | And they'd be open to hosting/sponsoring. | 01:59 |
BobJonkman | One of the women at NaNoWriMo worked at some local high tech firm (forget which one), and declicned my offer of a disk. Said her company already usess Ubuntu. | 02:00 |
BobJonkman | So there might be a mercenary interest... | 02:00 |
dscassel | Bob, we'll talk tomorrow. :) | 02:01 |
BobJonkman | Meet you at the Waterloo Ubuntu Hour :)) | 02:02 |
dscassel | That's the end of our planned agenda. Anyone have anything else? | 02:03 |
mars | BobJonkman, what time is the Waterloo hour? | 02:03 |
BobJonkman | The Waterloo Ubuntu Hour is at 8:00pm EST at Whole Lota Gelata | 02:03 |
BobJonkman | They might be closing early (9:00pm) because it's cold and dark out | 02:04 |
mars | cool, thanks | 02:04 |
BobJonkman | Next meeting on the 10th or thet 17th of January? | 02:05 |
BobJonkman | IRC meeting, that is | 02:06 |
dscassel | BobJonkman: Either works for me. 10th? | 02:06 |
BobJonkman | OK, I'll post it shortly. | 02:06 |
dscassel | Thanks, all. :) | 02:07 |
bregma | ta-taa | 02:07 |
BobJonkman | Back to my 'focus-on-a-window-I-can't-find' problem. I can type in this window, but the mouse is active somewhere else. Can't find it. | 02:08 |
BobJonkman | I'm considering the IT Crowd solution: Turn it off and on again. | 02:08 |
BobJonkman | Any better ideas? | 02:09 |
dscassel | BobJonkman: no idea. | 02:09 |
bregma | try compiz --replace from a terminal window? | 02:09 |
dscassel | I've had weird focus issues on my desktop lately. Intermitent and inconsistent too. | 02:09 |
BobJonkman | bregma: What does that do? | 02:10 |
bregma | it restarts compiz, I think, unless X is really messed up | 02:11 |
hakimsheriff | Okay everybody, Bye! | 02:11 |
bregma | which it often is for me, but I'm special that way | 02:11 |
BobJonkman | I don't think it's *really* messed up. I can move the mouse pointer on the screen, but it appearst to be on something else | 02:13 |
BobJonkman | OK, back to normal. I think | 02:22 |
BobJonkman | Switched to a text screen, killed the tty7 session. Logged in again, but the left-mouse button was still unresponsive. Turned the mouse off and on again, now everything is fine | 02:23 |
BobJonkman | It's a Logitech bluetooth mouse, a really fine beast most days | 02:23 |
bregma | sometimes bluetooth can go a little wonky too | 02:24 |
BobJonkman | Screwed up the Synaptics pad too, though, so I thought it was something else | 02:24 |
bregma | yeah, that sounds like messed up xinput | 02:24 |
BobJonkman | compiz --replace complained it couldn't find the display | 02:24 |
BobJonkman | It doesn't look like $DISPLAY is set on my computer | 02:25 |
bregma | oh, that, you have to set DISPLAY=:0 before you run it | 02:25 |
bregma | if you;re doing it from a text console (not a text console window) | 02:25 |
BobJonkman | Oh. Thought some Xterm process would do that | 02:25 |
bregma | it remonds me of that every time I do it | 02:25 |
BobJonkman | Yup, I was using a text screen, not a window | 02:26 |
BobJonkman | Setting DISPLAY, is that '=:' the operator, or is ':0' the display number? | 02:27 |
bregma | :0 is the display number (or :0.0) | 02:27 |
bregma | you can;t put any spaces arounf the equals sign because it;s a shell variable | 02:27 |
BobJonkman | Odd. Looks like I gots some reading to do | 02:27 |
bregma | X adds 6000 to the left part of the display number to get the port number | 02:28 |
bregma | so if you start a second X server on :11, for example, it reads on pot 6011 | 02:28 |
bregma | just, you know, in case you feel like running a second server or something | 02:28 |
BobJonkman | Would a second server be running if I use ssh -X ? | 02:29 |
bregma | no, that does port forwarding | 02:29 |
BobJonkman | Always on port 6000 then? | 02:29 |
bregma | by default, yes | 02:30 |
BobJonkman | Man, I gots me some readingn to do... | 02:30 |
bregma | if you run ssh -X, it opens port 6010 on the remote end and sets DISPLAY=:10, and connects that locally to port 6000 | 02:30 |
bregma | it's kind of like call forwarding | 02:32 |
BobJonkman | Yes, ssh port forwarding (and reverse port forwarding) is awesome. | 02:36 |
BobJonkman | I use that all the time, connect to work computers from clients, or provide support to clients from the office | 02:36 |
khoover | it end? | 03:14 |
zeroedout | Considering it started at 2 hours ago, I would think so | 03:17 |
khoover | cheers. | 03:20 |
BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:50 |
bregma | ahhh, back in the saddle again.... | 13:47 |
bregma | ... by which I really mean comfortable office chair ... | 13:48 |
bregma | ... yeee-hahhh ... | 14:10 |
dscassel | Ride 'em, cowboy? | 15:05 |
kenjy | hi guys, whats up? did some one call me? | 17:38 |
DarwinSurvivor | kenjy: you were probably included in the channel-wide ping before the meeting yesterday | 17:40 |
bregma | that was 16 hours ago | 17:40 |
kenjy | ups, tnks DarwinSurvivor , Im always late on the meetings xD | 17:40 |
kenjy | hahaha okay bregma =) | 17:43 |
kenjy | sorry about my absence | 17:43 |
BluesKaj | yeah , I didn't notice til this morning .... | 18:44 |
BluesKaj | anyway , having fun with pulseaudio again , gawd I wissh alsa would connect directly to flash on web audio content | 18:46 |
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