[06:11] <alourie> early morning
[07:28] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:11] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[11:52] <akgraner> jcastro, I emailed Mark M. but I didn't have his email address so I sent it through LP, can you confirm he got it and that we are on  track for interview etc.  Many many thanks!
[12:54] <dpm> quick poll: I'm creating a Software Centre button to add in a blog post on developer.ubuntu.com. Which one do you guys find best? -> http://ubuntuone.com/1PbXb3IPSBZLD2zEsrue5G (ignore the FREE stamp for now)
[13:02] <scott-work> good morning everyone
[13:02] <scott-work> cjohnston: i created the ubuntustudio-website-content team yesterday
[13:02] <czajkowski> dpm: 1st one
[13:03] <dpm> czajkowski, cool, thanks, I'm leaning towards the 1st one myself too
[13:23] <cprofitt> dpm: I like both, but the first one best... would you want to make the 'free' Aubergine?
[13:24] <dpm> thanks cprofitt. Reading the design guidelines, I think the warm grey fits best, but I'll give it a try, nevertheless :)
[13:28] <MrChrisDruif> dpm; first one looks better and cprofitt's suggestion is probably a good idea
[13:29] <dpm> thanks MrChrisDruif :)
[13:30] <MrChrisDruif> Also, while your editing that free stamp, the text is practically touching the sides so I think it should be slightly bigger
[13:31] <mhall119> dpm: I like #2
[13:32] <AlanBell> dpm: second one looks more correct I think, but what font is Software Centre in?
[13:32] <mhall119> #2 seems to be the more common way of showing the logo
[13:32] <popey> dpm: font looks wrong
[13:33] <mhall119> it's orange on white in ubuntu.com, in the dash, on keyboard stickers, etc
[13:33] <popey> the brand name is 'Ubuntu Software Center' (sadly) rather than 'Software Centre' or 'Software Center'
[13:33] <AlanBell> gimp normally does a better job of the font anti-aliasing than that
[13:33] <cprofitt> yeah, taking a second look I would say use the circle from the second one, and make the 'free' standout a bit more -- change the color contrast by using aubergine or make it larger...
[13:36] <mhall119> dpm: you should ask in #ubuntu-design too
[13:37] <dpm> AlanBell, popey, it's Ubuntu Condensed
[13:38] <AlanBell> ok, not seen that variant yet :)
[13:41] <dpm> popey, you're right, I should add "Ubuntu", although I'll see if I can get away without it, as it makes the text even longer. It's "Centre", though, as official communications are in UK English, also on the web: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/ubuntu-software-centre
[13:42] <popey> so it is
[13:42] <popey> yay
[13:43] <popey> shame the screenshot on that very page has it wrong
[13:44] <AlanBell> but it is right below in the meta-screenshot
[13:45] <cprofitt> +1 AlanBell
[13:45] <AlanBell> yo dawg, we heard you like screenshots http://www.ubuntu.com/sites/www.ubuntu.com/files/active/images/oneiric-features-usc-developer.jpg
[13:46] <cprofitt> I am a Canadian and an Amercian and I vote for using English English, not American English. That is just me ofcourse.
[14:10] <snap-l> I think we should all use UK slang.
[14:11] <snap-l> Blighty, that process went pear shaped fast, and the machine went for a toss
[14:24] <scott-work> cprofitt: english english, like 'colour' and 'favour' ?
[14:25] <czajkowski> scott-work: where folks use organisation instead of organization
[14:25] <scott-work> strangely, i'm american but i find myself using 'flavour' and 'colour' and other british terms
[14:25] <scott-work> but i also curse in german and spanish for some strange reason as well
[14:26] <czajkowski> scott-work: hehe
[14:26] <czajkowski> that;s well messed up
[14:26] <scott-work> czajkowski: yeah, i never understand (and can't remember) organisation vs organization
[14:26] <scott-work> frankly it seems a little stupid to me to differentiate that
[14:28] <czajkowski> I remember in my final year in college I had to research a ton of papers and a lot were written using american english used to wreck my head as then I started to write like that which then resulted in marks being deducated by lecturer
[14:39] <cjohnston> scott-work:  awesome
[14:39] <cjohnston> jcastro:  ping
[14:48] <jcastro> akgraner: ok
[14:55] <cjohnston> jcastro:  did you get my email yesterday afternoon?
[15:00] <jcastro> yep I did
[15:00] <jcastro> I need one more thing now
[15:00] <jcastro> cjohnston: can you add a time estimate to each feature?
[15:00] <jcastro> something like
[15:00] <jcastro> "Do foo and bar (8 hours)
[15:07] <scott-work> czajkowski: oooh, that sucks
[15:08] <nigelb> Hello folks
[15:09] <scott-work> hi nigelb
[15:09] <nigelb> Hey scott-work :)
[15:55] <mhall119> jcastro: getting down to the hour isn't going to be very accurate
[15:55] <mhall119> can we do it as days and half days instead?
[15:55] <jcastro> sure
[15:55] <mhall119> ok
[16:00] <jcastro> <-- lunching an hour early to avoid the rush
[16:00] <mhall119> holy crud, it's 11am already?
[16:00] <mhall119> :(
[18:00] <mainerror> I'm planing to let a company nearby print a huge Ubuntu sticker with my LoCo's contact data. Am I even allowed to do something like that?
[18:01] <mainerror> Of course that'd happen if/after I have applied for an Ubuntu membership and got approved but I'm still not sure if that would be ok.
[18:01] <AlanBell> yes
[18:01] <mainerror> Alright, cool.
[18:01] <AlanBell> advocacy use is ok
[18:01] <mainerror> That is great! :)
[18:01] <AlanBell> but read the trademarks page for details
[18:02] <mainerror> Ok.
[18:02] <cjohnston> AlanBell: what do you think about maybe making two different etherpads.. one for uds and one for regular stuff?
[18:03] <czajkowski> cjohnston: ello how is the LTP shaping up this cycle?
[18:03] <cjohnston> czajkowski: :-/
[18:03] <cjohnston> lacking developers
[18:04] <czajkowski> cjohnston: have we lost folks? still the same number of folks no ?
[18:04] <czajkowski> just I see all the work on summit these days so just wondered
[18:04] <cjohnston> czajkowski: we have lost folks
[18:04] <czajkowski> :(
[18:04] <cjohnston> and summit has deadline requirements
[18:05] <czajkowski> fair enough, just with more of a push for teams to use the LTP just wondered.
[18:05] <cjohnston> need some people from the teams to help out.. cant do it with only 2.5 developers
[18:06] <czajkowski> I agree
[18:06] <czajkowski> this was my feer when more stuff was pushed to the site if we lacked enough folks to make it happen.
[18:06] <czajkowski> I;ll try and get a blog post out this week
[18:07] <cjohnston> k
[18:07] <czajkowski> but given when new folks start to help out and there are issues in compiling the code on the ml it isn't good
[18:08] <cjohnston> honestly im not sure why he is having the issue.. its working for me still... I'm not sure who he is, but if he is on IRC that would make it alot easier to help him
[18:08] <cjohnston> I havent had a chance to reply about that yet
[18:08] <czajkowski> well at least he;s trying
[18:08] <czajkowski> I guess not everyone uses irc and he s trying via the ML
[18:09] <cjohnston> Right.. and that makes it alot harder to work with troubleshooting :-/
[18:41] <cjohnston> thanks scott-work
[18:42] <scott-work> cjohnston: ?
[18:42] <cjohnston> the bug
[18:43] <scott-work> oh, you mean updating the bug for the right project, gotcha :)
[18:43] <cjohnston> yup
[18:43] <scott-work> sorry, i've already done a few other things since and my head space was on the bug anymore :P
[18:43] <cjohnston> hehe
[18:43] <cjohnston> i *just* got the email
[18:48] <AlanBell> cjohnston: separate pad for UDS is a possibility, but I think we could have one that serves both purposes better than the current one does
[18:48] <AlanBell> separate pad for Linaro is a possibility too
[18:49] <cjohnston> AlanBell: explain what you mean by one that serves both purposes better than the current one... some sort of different customizations?
[18:50] <AlanBell> yeah, so that it knows when it is embedded in summit and has summit related intro text in that context
[18:50] <AlanBell> and maybe turn off the chat when in summit
[18:50] <cjohnston> that would be cool if thats possible
[18:50] <AlanBell> should be
[18:51] <cjohnston> I don't know enough about etherpad to know what is possible and what isnt
[18:53] <AlanBell> I have been learning a bit about node.js, it seems quite understandable
[19:13] <jcastro> Daviey: I was already chatting with leedo about a new upstream release, thanks for the follow up though (wrt. alice)
[20:41] <bkerensa> AlanBell: How did you upgrade Spotify :)
[20:42] <bkerensa> jcastro: Do you know if dholbach is coming back today?
[20:42] <jcastro> no clue
[20:43] <cjohnston> bkerensa: he is probably gone for the day..
[20:46] <bkerensa> kk
[20:48] <AlanBell> bkerensa: whatify?
[20:49] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Saw you got the new version of Spotify :D was wondering how you pulled that off
[20:49] <AlanBell> google tells me it is some kind of listening to music thing. I think you might have the wrong Alan.
[20:50] <bkerensa> oh
[20:50]  * bkerensa facepalms
[20:50] <bkerensa> Alan Pope
[20:50] <AlanBell> I did try listening to music a few weeks ago, but I don't think I have got the hang of it yet.