[20:49] <slashtommy> hey ebel
[20:49] <ebel> ☺
[20:50] <BenChapman> hi folks
[20:50] <slashtommy> good evening
[20:52] <airurando> evening
[20:53] <slashtommy> we actually have our heating on, tis getting cold
[20:55] <airurando> coal fire here
[20:55] <airurando> just had a look at the website....
[20:56] <airurando> some spam comments appearing
[20:56] <slashtommy> oh noes
[20:56]  * airurando has blocked his first 2 users
[20:56] <mokmeister> hello everybody
[20:56] <airurando> hi mokmeister
[20:56] <andru_> hello all
[20:57] <airurando> hi andru_ aka infoturtle
[20:57] <andru_> ya, had to restart to test a script and infoturtle was still here???
[20:59] <airurando> very short agenda for tonights meeting
[20:59] <andru_> where to hell do you put scripts to have them run at start up?
[21:00] <airurando> ebel or slashtommy should know that one
[21:00] <slashtommy>  in /etc/rc.local
[21:00] <ebel> andru_: when machine starts up? or when you log in?
[21:00] <ebel> what do you want it to do, and what do you need it to have access to?
[21:00] <andru_> log in
[21:01] <ebel> e.g. if it needs access to your home directory, and you use the ubuntu encrypted home, then it can only run upon log in
[21:01] <slashtommy> oh ~/.bash_profile
[21:01] <andru_> auto start conky, compiz, irc
[21:01] <ebel> if you're using gnome, you can set some programmes (incl. home made scripts) to start upon log in
[21:02] <ebel> tis somewhere in the settings, search for 'startup applications' afair
[21:02] <andru_> I'm using LXDE and can't find that stinking option, NM I'll look into it later
[21:02] <ebel> or you might be able to use some ~/.Xsomething scrupit
[21:03] <slashtommy> it's 9.02pm ;)
[21:03] <ebel> aye, shall we start?
[21:03] <airurando> go for it
[21:03] <airurando> should take 5 mins ;)
[21:04] <ebel> infoturtle: also if you register your nick you can kick it off irc with "/msg NickServ GHOST someoptionshere"
[21:04] <ebel> shall I chair?
[21:04] <airurando> yip
[21:04] <infoturtle> cheers ebel, might just do that
[21:04] <infoturtle> go for it
[21:04] <ebel> #startmeeting
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[21:05] <ebel> woot
[21:05] <ebel> please say "PRESENT" if you're here and paying attention
[21:05] <ebel> PRESENT
[21:05] <moylan> PRESENT
[21:05] <infoturtle> PRESENT
[21:05] <slashtommy> PRESENT
[21:05] <airurando> PRESENT
[21:05] <mokmeister> PRESENT
[21:05] <ebel> meeting page is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-ie/302/detail/
[21:05] <ebel> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-ie/302/detail/
[21:06] <ebel> #topic CD distribution
[21:06] <delcoyote> PRESENT
[21:07] <ebel> I (as PoC) have the box of CDs. Some have been given out (to BenChampman (for coderdojo), to airurando, some in TOG)
[21:07] <ebel> however i have been bad and haven't actually followed up with people who asked for cds earlier
[21:07] <ebel> Sorry.
[21:07] <infoturtle> I got some but haven't handed em out yet
[21:07] <ebel> there are still lots of cds here
[21:07] <infoturtle> thanks again to airurando
[21:07] <ebel> I'll do that after this meeting
[21:08] <airurando> infoturtle my pleasure
[21:08] <ebel> sorry again
[21:08] <airurando> no bother ebel
[21:08] <airurando> do you need any help with it?
[21:09] <ebel> For the record, if you would like some CDs, please send me a self addressed envelope. Email me rory@technomancy.org and I'll sort it out
[21:10] <ebel> anyone wanna talk on this topic?
[21:10] <moylan> is there a public email address that we can tweet for that so that others can see it?
[21:10] <airurando> interesting idea moylan
[21:10] <moylan> just a thought
[21:11] <moylan> i'd never tweet somebodies private email address
[21:11] <airurando> ebel what do you think?
[21:11] <ebel> yes, you can tweet that
[21:11] <moylan> if you're sure...
[21:11] <ebel> this is a publically logged channel and publically logged meetin
[21:11] <moylan> there's public and scraped web pages public.  how good is that spam filter? :-)
[21:12] <moylan> say a subject line of 'ubuntu cd' or something?
[21:14] <ebel> what?
[21:14] <ebel> I am not sure what you're asking about. This might spread some light on what I think your assumptions are: http://www.google.ie/search?q=rory%40technomancy.org
[21:15] <moylan> fair enough.  just thought it might help you filter out requests if you asked folk to use a specific subject line.
[21:15] <ebel> nah
[21:15] <ebel> tis grand
[21:16] <moylan> i'll tweet that email address later for folk who want ubuntu cds.  we could all blog the same?
[21:17] <airurando> aye
[21:17] <infoturtle> can do
[21:17] <ebel> sure
[21:18] <delcoyote> http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ needs some make up? css?
[21:18] <ebel> anythign else on the cd topic?
[21:18] <delcoyote> any left at tog?
[21:19] <ebel> should be. lots
[21:19] <delcoyote> thanks ebel.. need to get there, but I use a different time table
[21:19] <ebel> ok
[21:19] <ebel> #topic AOB?
[21:19] <ebel> delcoyote: you asked about css?
[21:20] <airurando> The website
[21:20] <delcoyote> Just comparing ubuntu-ie and loco team websites, and needs some css? the website?
[21:20] <ebel> #topic website
[21:20] <ebel> (a) another thing i've forgotten to do! (change dns to point to blacknight)
[21:21] <airurando> it is very old
[21:21] <ebel> (b) who's offered to do the redesign? (/me forgot()
[21:21] <infoturtle> I was on it ages ago with thethomaseffect
[21:21] <airurando> thethomaseffect I think
[21:22] <ebel> ok
[21:22] <airurando> can someone change the 11:04 banner on the fromt
[21:22] <airurando> *fromt
[21:22] <airurando> ahhh
[21:22] <airurando> *front
[21:22] <ebel> right, i'll try what canonical suggest to move it to the blacknight host. then it'll be up to thethomaseffect to sort out setting up & configuring the new website
[21:23] <airurando> is thethomaseffect still up for it
[21:23] <airurando> delcoyote, are you interested?
[21:23] <ebel> good question. they aren't here now...
[21:23] <infoturtle> airurando: done
[21:23] <delcoyote> I'm useless but full of ideas, sorry airurando I can't help but I wish i could
[21:24] <airurando> infoturtle thanks
[21:24] <infoturtle> I can take it on again over xmas if we're on black knight now
[21:24] <airurando> delcoyote not to worry
[21:25] <airurando> maybe we could make this a regular agenda item
[21:25] <airurando> I only wish I had the knowledge to dig in
[21:26] <airurando> I'd certainly like to get involved in some way but would be pestering the lot of you
[21:27] <infoturtle> well when I'm free and we're on the new server I can reset things up. Then any little jobs that need doing can be brought up monthly
[21:27] <infoturtle> any one who's up to doing the little things can help out
[21:27] <infoturtle> or what ever way people want to do it
[21:27] <airurando> fine by me
[21:28]  * ebel is unsure if he has email for thethomaseffect, might look and shoot them an email to find out if they are still interested
[21:28] <ebel> if we change dns, and nothing happens w.r.t. blacknight, then we have no website
[21:28] <ebel> (or at least, it's all offline)
[21:28] <airurando> ebel thethomaseffect is one man I think
[21:29] <ebel> airurando: i never implied otherwise (you're the second person to mention to me today about my use of "they" as a gender neutral singular pronoun :P )
[21:29] <airurando> apologies
[21:29] <airurando> ebel wrt website is that rock and hard place?
[21:30] <ebel> well, here's an idea, website not being used much. let's bite the bullet, and just switch it. then we can get moving
[21:30] <airurando> what is the sequence of events that must happen
[21:30] <airurando> can we archive the old one?
[21:31] <ebel> the old one will still be there, on canonical servers, cut off from the internet.
[21:31] <ebel> we can repoint ubuntu-ie.org back to if at a later date if needed
[21:31] <airurando> OK
[21:32] <airurando> so are we simply starting fresh on blacknight?
[21:32] <infoturtle> we have that option at least
[21:32] <infoturtle> we don't HAVE to tho
[21:33] <ebel> depends who wants to set it up
[21:33] <airurando> what is the simplest safest way for us to get up any running on blacknight with a spiffy ubuntu theme?
[21:33] <ebel> depends if they wanna use the same software, depends if they wanna manually re-enter all content
[21:33] <mokmeister> where is the advantage of moving the website off of canonical servers and onto blacknight?
[21:34] <ebel> mokmeister: canoncial only provide a limited, out of date version of drupal
[21:34] <mokmeister> ok
[21:34] <ebel> and i think people wanna set up a new one
[21:35] <airurando> I think we should get it up and running as quickly and simply as possible.
[21:35] <mokmeister> agreed.
[21:36] <airurando> infoturtle could you have a plan in place by the time of the Jan meeting?
[21:37] <infoturtle> can do
[21:37] <airurando> ebel could you have the 'switch' ready to press by then also?
[21:37] <ebel> sure.
[21:38] <airurando> is that it so?
[21:38] <ebel> can take a several hours for dns to switch
[21:38] <ebel> tisn't instaneous
[21:38] <ebel> (well gets complicated :P )
[21:38] <ebel> anything else?
[21:38] <airurando> we've waited years
[21:38] <airurando> several hours is minor
[21:38] <airurando> actions for yourselves?
[21:38] <mokmeister> ubuntu hour in Limerick, still happening?
[21:39] <infoturtle> the last few that were on I was at on my own but I would love to see one again
[21:40] <airurando> ebel actions?
[21:40] <ebel> wha?
[21:40] <ebel> oh
[21:40] <airurando> infoturtle to have plan for website in place by jan meeting
[21:40] <ebel> #action ebel to be read for dns
[21:40] <meetingology> ACTION: ebel to be read for dns
[21:41] <ebel> #action infoturtle to be ready to maintain, install & admin new websute
[21:41] <meetingology> ACTION: infoturtle to be ready to maintain, install & admin new websute
[21:41] <ebel> #action ebel to reply to people w.r.t. cds
[21:41] <meetingology> ACTION: ebel to reply to people w.r.t. cds
[21:41] <airurando> cool
[21:41] <infoturtle> woo websutes!!
[21:41] <mokmeister> have the ubuntu brand guidelines changed since last november? I suppose they would need to be followed for the new website
[21:41] <ebel> #topic AOB?
[21:41] <infoturtle> course
[21:41] <airurando> next meeting
[21:41] <infoturtle> I'll re read em
[21:41] <airurando> Wednesday Jan 18th
[21:42] <infoturtle> I'm cool with that
[21:42] <ebel> grand
[21:42] <mokmeister> will try to remember! ;D
[21:42] <airurando> lovely
[21:42] <ebel> #endmeeting
[21:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 21:42:46 2011 UTC.
[21:42] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-ie/2011/ubuntu-ie.2011-12-14-21.04.moin.txt
[21:43] <airurando> nice one
[21:43] <moylan> 5 minutes indeed! :-D
[21:43] <mokmeister> lol
[21:43] <moylan> the more the merrier
[21:44] <mokmeister> infoturtle: next Thursday too close to Christmas for an Ubuntu hour in Limerick?
[21:45] <infoturtle> we can send out a few notices to people and see what comes back but I can do it
[21:45] <airurando> Go Limerick!!!
[21:45] <mokmeister> ftw!
[21:45] <infoturtle> hopefully, I'd like to see the interest here again
[21:45] <mokmeister> :D
[21:46] <mokmeister> Indeed
[21:47] <mokmeister> So Absolute Hotel, 7pm?
[21:47] <infoturtle> sounds good, I'll let as many know as possible
[21:47] <mokmeister> good stuff
[21:49] <infoturtle> cool, I'll add event to the various Ubuntu-ie things that I can and I'll be in touch
[21:49] <infoturtle> for now I gotta get back to study
[21:49] <mokmeister> ok
[23:21] <thethomaseffect> ebel:  Ping