[00:00] Meeting? [00:00] 00:00 [00:00] bodhi_zazen, Hi [00:00] Anyone here for the bt meeting ? [00:00] #startmeeting [00:00] Meeting started Wed Dec 14 00:00:54 2011 UTC. The chair is bodhi_zazen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [00:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [00:00] o/ [00:01] Agenda - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] * Unit193 [00:01] [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] All of you raise your hands o/ [00:01] o/ [00:01] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] o/ [00:02] It accepts quietly bodhi_zazen [00:02] bodhi_zazen, I believe it will set it and show in logs [00:02] [TOPIC] Focus Groups === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Focus Groups [00:03] I think focus groups have been discussed before [00:03] any focus group leaders here ? [00:03] For the time being, No. duanedesign is working on the MOTU FG [00:03] any suggestions for focus groups ? [00:04] I am not seeing any other FGs active [00:04] IAmNotThatGuy; I might be able to get some activity back in the Wiki FG [00:04] But I'm not the Head of it [00:04] * bodhi_zazen thinks too much time is spend discussion how FG will work and not enough time forming groups to accomplish specific tasks [00:05] How about if we start with one or two tasks , define the task, see who is interested ? [00:05] +1 [00:05] bodhi_zazen, it will be the Heads to design the FGs. We can find people whoo has time and nominate him/her for the FG and let them form a group and work on structuring [00:05] o/ [00:06] speak up JackyAlcine [00:06] I think he just said he was here ;-) [00:06] I would make the FG very task specific [00:06] +1 to bodhi_zazen's idea. [00:06] I've been interested in the Dev FG for a while, I don't have the time to run it, but I'd love to be active in it. [00:07] Any additional suggestions for the focus groups ? [00:08] Nope [00:08] Assigning tasks like updating a certain section on the wiki (for Wiki FG of course) [00:08] I think they sort of die off because everyone gets excited about a topic, like development or packaging, without any tasks , so excitement dies out [00:08] Perhaps passing bitesize bugs to the Dev FG. [00:08] bodhi_zazen: +1 [00:09] learning to file a bug report -> triage bug reports ? [00:09] and packaging's a world of hurt in itself :P [00:09] or we have many project ideas, where we can pull the new comers and work on [00:09] we could do a classroom session on either packaging or bug reports [00:09] Noted [00:09] bodhi_zazen: +1 [00:09] IAmNotThatGuy: working on a project from scratch is hard work. [00:10] [idea] can the people interested in a focus group identify a task or classroom session - update the wiki page - and engage the team for assistance ? [00:10] Do current tasks not count? [00:11] I think it can be done [00:11] Other suggestions ? [00:12] JackyAlcine, But it is the best way to learn both team work and complete development. ;] [00:12] [topic] Team participation === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Team participation [00:12] whats the question :D [00:13] As a general reminder to the team, our goal is to help new users, new to ubuntu (beginners) and new to the ubuntu community [00:13] Please help out on IRC, forums, askubuntu ... [00:13] True. [00:13] Ya [00:13] Invite people to the team to participate, if they are lost and need direction [00:14] * MrChrisDruif has lost interest in helping on the main help channels. Also pretty busy on other parts in the community [00:14] I am thinking of it, to invite people [00:14] But I'm still answering questions when they show up on the team channel [00:14] Or anywhere else for that matter [00:15] to be honest, The main thing missing is that we have people around, but none stepping forward to blast google and help the beginner. Thats the way I learnt about Ubuntu through the community [00:16] Me too [00:17] Most of the time, what people think is that they don't know the answer and it is better to let someone help. But before coming to a decision, Just search in the net and see whether you can help. ;] [00:17] Like I said, I'm pretty preoccupied with being active in the community myself... [00:17] MrChrisDruif, Gotcha [00:18] I know your not pointing any fingers around, but still...=] [00:18] I do my best whenever I think I can help. :$ [00:19] All good ideas [00:19] :-) I also do it, when ever anybody need help I try my best [00:19] So, the main point to remember from now is, "UBT's goal is to support the Beginners seeking help". So, try engaging some time in the support channel =] [00:19] [idea] Try to be more proactive, even if it is for 10 minutes, do something and solicit team participation ;) [00:20] bodhi_zazen, and I am not sure whether people idling in #ubuntu-beginners are active in IRC. I see many nick idling for years without talking a word [00:20] such is irc [00:20] ;P [00:20] IRC [00:20] what is IRC? [00:20] this is [00:20] [topic] Open floor === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open floor [00:21] this is a common talk in my local community [00:21] what we are talking through is irc ashickur-noor [00:21] any other suggestions / comments / agenda items ? [00:21] coalwater: I know that [00:21] I am talking about my local community, who only know FB [00:21] :-D [00:22] Which makes me mad some times [00:22] FluxBox ? [00:22] FramBuffer [00:22] The team is what you all make of it [00:22] bodhi_zazen, Regarding FG, for the time being, lets go with duanedesign With MOTU and Wiki with myself and MrChrisDruif. If people comes forward for taking up the other groups, then we can officially bring them in. What do you think? [00:23] Sounds good so long as the FG have tasks and spam -team looking for support [00:24] Meanwhile, I will discuss with jacky and you in setting up the base for -dev team [00:24] great [00:24] great [00:24] Other agenda items questions ? [00:25] you're gonna create a -dev team? [00:25] I had one, but forgot it later =] [00:25] coalwater, Set a platform for -dev team. (We already have one ;P) [00:26] i know, thats why i was a little confused [00:26] so um whats this platform [00:26] bodhi_zazen, Will we be setting up a separate membership for each FG? [00:27] Not unless the FG are active [00:27] coalwater, Will come back to you in a minf =] [00:27] okay [00:27] Once they are active, FG lead can decide [00:27] I suggest open team, informal membership [00:28] people spend too much time with membership, not enough time doing, and then membership becomes a barrior [00:28] coalwater, We have a dev team, without knowing what we have to work with. So, we are planning to find and list projects and places to find bug reports so that BT dev team can work on it and help them learn and contribute =] [00:28] nice [00:28] +1 bodhi_zazen [00:28] IAmNotThatGuy: +1 [00:29] Any other topics? [00:30] Unit193, did we miss anything? [00:32] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [00:32] Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 00:32:14 2011 UTC. [00:32] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-14-00.00.moin.txt [00:32] Go forth and activate [00:32] unimix, Update the channel with the next meeting, MrChrisDruif clear the BeginnersTeam/Meetings page and post the minutes of meeting. Thank you all for coming :) [00:33] err Unit193 * [00:33] Sure thing bodhi_zazen =] [00:33] Where did I sign up for that? =P [00:34] IAmNotThatGuy, no problem :) [00:34] bodhi_zazen: I am not sure about FG [00:34] what is focus group? [00:35] a group of people interested in accomplishing a task [00:35] the task is their focus of effort [00:35] Interesting [00:35] How they work? [00:35] MrChrisDruif, We recruited you before 2 meetings I guess ;P [00:36] For 2 meetings? I think it can be traced back to the log [00:36] R they belongs to UBT? [00:36] they work by people being active to define and accomplish a task , it is sort of a circular argument ashickur-noor [00:36] MrChrisDruif, hahaha. But MoM is for you [00:37] o/ [00:37] MoM? [00:37] Hello s-fox. Bodhi ended the meeting :[ [00:37] \o [00:37] MrChrisDruif, Minutes of meeting [00:37] Need to learn more about FG [00:37] Haha, it's alright ;-) [00:37] BTW how r u everyone? [00:38] ashickur-noor; did you just got invited for an other channel? [00:38] nope [00:38] I attended the last meeting [00:38] Alright, try this "/join #ubuntu-beginners-team" [00:38] 'lo s-fox [00:39] From then I am regular in UB and UBT [00:40] I need some suggestion [00:41] my local fellow Ubuntu users don't know how to communicate in the community [00:42] How I can teach them about it? [00:42] ashickur-noor; might I suggest we continue this in #ubuntu-beginners-team ? [00:42] ashickur-noor: should probably move the discussion to #ubuntu-beginners-team [00:42] Haha [00:42] Shall we move to #ubuntu-beginners-team and continue the discussion ashickur-noor and MrChrisDruif ? [00:42] * MrChrisDruif is off [00:42] I have no problem === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === EvilJackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine [05:36] morn [05:37] sry. wrong channel === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger === doko_ is now known as doko === yofel_ is now known as yofel === 18WAAHZ7Q is now known as jacob === JackyAlcine is now known as Guest75450 === [Jacky] is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine_ [16:02] * slangasek waves [16:03] * stgraber waves [16:04] o/ [16:04] #startmeeting [16:04] Meeting started Wed Dec 14 16:04:06 2011 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:04] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:04] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [16:05] $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek) [16:05] cjwatson barry ev slangasek bdmurray doko stgraber jodh [16:05] ev and doko are out, so this should be quick :) [16:05] cjwatson: [16:05] Some ubiquity fixes: DPKG_UNTRANSLATED_MESSAGES=1 as requested by bdmurray; armhf support; fix for next button to say "Install Now" more reliably when it's supposed to (bug 766265). [16:05] Launchpad bug 766265 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity proceeds to use free space without warning" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766265 [16:05] (I'll fill in doko's status for him) [16:05] Added uninstallable output for -updates suites (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/lucid-updates_probs.html et al). [16:05] Serious cleanup so I actually have some free space on my SSD ... [16:05] Submitted several more Launchpad branches for review (bug 551510, bug 118227, bug 240965, bug 383044). This is mostly because it's clear that there's no Launchpad development resource for a lot of these things and they aren't going to get fixed otherwise; in particular it's been a thorn in my side for some time that installer images aren't signed. [16:05] Launchpad bug 551510 in Launchpad itself "Port to new python-apt API" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/551510 [16:05] Working on getting germinate output generated directly from the database (for foundations-p-image-build-pipeline). Partly done but I need to rewrite mvo's Supported extra-overrides handling to work with it. Some germinate fixes to support this. [16:05] Launchpad bug 118227 in Launchpad itself "main/debian-installer missing from Release files" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118227 [16:05] Launchpad bug 240965 in Launchpad itself "publisher doesn't deal with pockets becoming empty" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240965 [16:05] Launchpad bug 383044 in Launchpad itself "No GPG signatures for nonstandard installers" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383044 [16:06] Converted libproxy to multiarch. [16:06] Started on investigating bug 709363. Hopefully I'll have more luck than previously. [16:06] Launchpad bug 709363 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "swap partition disappeared during installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709363 [16:06] .. [16:06] bug 901840 (cython ftbfs); python 3 porting blog post; udd meeting w/poolie; python-dbus porting - submitted upstream, some parts are already being committed to trunk; will be committing more atomic changes to personal git branch and working with upstream on each smaller change. done. [16:06] Launchpad bug 901840 in cython (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to test failures" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901840 [16:06] * ScottK gives a big +1 on the python3 porting post. [16:07] I just got a chance to read that yesterday... good stuff [16:07] ScottK: thanks! been some good comments there too [16:07] thanks [16:07] * sync cricket to unblock IS [16:07] * progress on multiarch: gstreamer stack is nearly done now! maybe done by the end of the year [16:07] * following up on bootcharts: trying to figure out why there's still a lot of noise in the numbers (10% variance between two successive runs?) [16:07] * rally planning [16:07] * working with other teams regarding the vulnerable sun-java6 packages that we need to get rid of [16:08] * merging armhf eglibc support into Debian for infinity [16:08] (done) [16:08] Changed arsenal reporter light-style.css to use launchpad's status and importance coloring [16:08] Repushed arsenal's cbd since it was lost or over written [16:08] Updated bug bot to tag ubiquity bug reports ubiquity-upgrade [16:08] Investigation into ubiquity bugs not matching bug patterns / discovery of bug 901381 [16:08] Launchpad bug 901381 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "excepthook in gtk_ui.py should write a crash report instead of calling ubuntu-bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901381 [16:08] modification to bug bot to not mention sponsors when commenting on reviewer bugs [16:08] review of bug reports for the defect analyst bug dashboard [16:08] work on bug pattern consolidation job on cranberry [16:08] working with defect analysts regarding a bug workflow diagram [16:08] working with d3 (javascript graphing) and recent package bugs [16:08] created a team-recently-(triaged|confirmed) bug report [16:08] done [16:09] (doko) [16:09] - armhf bootstrap, fixing some build failures [16:09] - look for compiler ICE's in the armhf builds, reproduce and file gcc reports [16:09] - llvm/clang/dragonegg updates [16:09] - staring at clang, started to fix the default settings for armel and armhf. [16:09] - python-central demotion, mostly finished [16:09] - GCC and binutils updates [16:09] - syncs and merges [16:09] - gnat build for armhf, still in progress [16:09] (done) [16:10] - Testing tracker [16:10] - Production instance upgraded on Thursday! [16:10] - Spent part of Friday fighting bugs (wrong version of PostgreSQL and squid breaking the API) [16:10] - Flavours [16:10] - Daily automated testing is now running and posting the results to the tracker (showing a week's history on the tracker) [16:10] - Networking [16:10] - New ifenslave has been uploaded, followed by another upload to fix bridging (bug 889423) [16:10] Launchpad bug 889423 in ifenslave-2.6 (Ubuntu) "802.3ad bonding not configured correctly" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889423 [16:10] - Started to look at SRUing ifenslave, will need some discussion with the SRU team as the change are quite extensive [16:10] - Started looking at eventifying the vlan package, still need to test and upload [16:10] - Posted review of dnsmasq and discussed with security team about turning it on by default [16:10] - Wrote patches to Network Manager to start dnsmasq with the right parameters (bug 903854) [16:10] Launchpad bug 903854 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Change default dnsmasq flags to not include --strict-order and disable caching" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/903854 [16:10] - Containers [16:10] - Sent patch to James to make mountall work in a container without the need for our current lxcguest upstart jobs [16:10] - Installer [16:10] - Going through casper bugs, especially these with patches attached, reviewing/merging and cleaning up some of the code [16:10] - TPM [16:11] - Pushed opencryptoki bugfix as an SRU to lucid, maverick and natty (bug 645576) [16:11] Launchpad bug 645576 in opencryptoki (Ubuntu Natty) "TPM token fails to reinitialize properly on reload" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645576 [16:11] - TODO (pretty much unchanged since last week) [16:11] - Look at the new ifupdown in Debian (beta2), isolate the fix for bug 876829 and SRU to Oneiric [16:11] Launchpad bug 876829 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Precise) "Oneiric's ifupdown breaks ip aliases" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876829 [16:11] - Start poking at resolvconf [16:11] - Talk with cyphermox now that he's out of +1 :) (IPv6, complex networking in NM, dnsmasq, VPN stuff, ...) [16:11] - Still need to get my iSCSI test setup online again and then look at the merge... [16:11] (done) [16:11] Released Upstart 1.4. Working on merge of lp:upstart into Ubuntu (icky: [16:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/769005/ - thanks to cjwatson for guidance!). [16:11] Currently we have a failing test which appears to be caused by the [16:11] builds chroot environment. Lots of cookbook updates (prolly release [16:11] later today). Plan: Finish Upstart merge and work on plymouth bug 553745 [16:11] and bug 849414). My last day before Christmas is Friday. [16:11] Launchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553745 [16:11] Launchpad bug 849414 in plymouth (Ubuntu Precise) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849414 [16:11] ❅ [16:13] thanks all [16:13] any questions re: statuseses? [16:13] [TOPIC] Bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs [16:13] bdmurray: anything new bubbling up this week? [16:14] slangasek: no not really [16:14] ok [16:15] actually bug 818177 has seen some recent activity [16:15] Launchpad bug 818177 in udev (Ubuntu Precise) "boot failures because 'udevadm exit' times out while udevd waits for an already-dead thread" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818177 [16:15] Hi Everybody!! [16:17] bdmurray: I think those comments are misdirected and I'm not sure they're worth following up on individually; we know that we have two other bugs related to udev races still, apw is working on one (bnx2 firmware) and hallyn is working on the other (lvm2) and waiting for me to review/merge [16:17] slangasek: okay, that makes sense [16:17] Would anyone like to attack bug 545790? It's on rls-p-tracking, and it has a relatively clear explanation from mdz; it should be a matter of saving errno until it comes time to display it [16:17] Launchpad bug 545790 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "package PACKAGE failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '': Success" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545790 [16:19] [16:19] :) [16:20] well, I'll mark that one 'triaged' at least :) [16:21] * jodh wonders what a "crashed recycle bin" is...? [16:21] heh [16:21] don't recycle whilst driving I say! [16:23] ok, well, that one remains on the list of bugs for us to tackle this cycle then [16:23] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [16:23] anything else? [16:23] or I'll take it, I was just hoping somebody else would :) [16:23] I think everyone else's queue is also full at the moment :) [16:24] btw, if anyone has outstanding expenses for the year, remember that it's a good idea to do those before you go on end-of-year holidays :) [16:26] and next week will be the last meeting of the year... for whoever's still around by that point [16:26] :) [16:26] :) [16:27] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:27] Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 16:27:03 2011 UTC. [16:27] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-12-14-16.04.moin.txt [16:27] that's all, folks [16:27] thanks! [16:27] thanks! [16:27] thanks! [16:28] thanks! [16:59] hi everyone, we are about to start the QA Meeting [16:59] #startmeeting QA Meeting [16:59] Meeting started Wed Dec 14 16:59:59 2011 UTC. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:59] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | QA Meeting Meeting | Current topic: [17:00] hello, can you raise your hand if you are present and reading ? [17:00] * alourie preps his cut of tea [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ [17:00] 0/ [17:00] er [17:00] * alourie s/cut/cup [17:00] o/ [17:00] o/ (but I might be afk for a bit in a min) [17:00] kalosaurusrex: no probs [17:00] o/ [17:01] excellent, so let's get started [17:01] #topic Previous Actions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | QA Meeting Meeting | Current topic: Previous Actions [17:01] so we had patrickmw with one action from last week [17:01] hi new to the meeting [17:01] he told me he couldn't make it today, so we'll keep the action for next week [17:01] hi besmirgogu , welcome! [17:01] #action patrickmw to publish a list of launchpad projects that conform our automated testing in jenkins [17:01] hi everybody [17:01] ACTION: patrickmw to publish a list of launchpad projects that conform our automated testing in jenkins [17:02] #topic Blueprints Update Precise === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | QA Meeting Meeting | Current topic: Blueprints Update Precise [17:02] o/ [17:02] alourie: go for it [17:02] regarding previous actions [17:02] o/ [17:02] yes, alourie [17:02] how about posting smoke test cases that we run? [17:03] alourie: do you mean results? [17:03] was it posted somewhere? [17:03] no, the tests [17:03] give me a sec [17:03] i guess, patrickmw should present the list of launchpad project, and there we can get the code for unittests [17:04] ah [17:04] s/project/projects [17:04] ok, so I'll get back to this later then [17:04] .. [17:04] alourie, roignac , this is the code that runs, as far as I know: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-server-iso-testing [17:04] I am in the process of reviewing it and trying to make some sense of the testing we are running [17:04] I don't believe we have test case descriptions yet [17:04] but we will [17:05] gema: looks like it [17:05] ok, great, I'll look at it later [17:05] alourie: where? [17:05] ok [17:05] brendand: ? [17:05] can you clarify what it means 'conform our automated testing'? [17:05] what does the package need to have? [17:05] brendand: anything that we run and publish results on jenkins [17:06] so packages with automated tests? [17:06] brendand: no, test cases that we are running automatically in jenkins [17:06] is the list patrickmw is putting together [17:06] gema - ok, i think i understand now [17:07] brendand: I am not clear what to expect myself either, so let's keep an open mind [17:07] moving on to the blueprints themselves then [17:07] #subtopic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing [17:07] We have created a new dashboard by installing some jenkins plugins, but it is not 100% there yet. We are looking into aggregating results to show all the results for each ISO together and to show build number [17:07] Link: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise%20ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/view/Daily/ [17:08] any question? [17:09] looks great [17:09] greenish :-) [17:09] alourie: that's wrong, today we had a failure in the lab and nothing run [17:09] it should be all red [17:09] ha! [17:09] we are working on it x) [17:09] that's funny [17:09] yep [17:09] so [17:09] I'm thinking [17:10] is it possible to have, like, a session on Jenkins? [17:10] to realize better what it is and what it isn't? [17:10] and how do things work ther? [17:10] e [17:10] what do you mean a session on jenkins? [17:10] .. [17:10] ahh, like a training session? [17:10] yes [17:10] indeed, hggdh has been putting a wiki together, I can ask him [17:10] even if it take 15 minutes [17:11] #action gema to talk to hggdh about some jenkins training for the community [17:11] ACTION: gema to talk to hggdh about some jenkins training for the community [17:11] great, appreciate it [17:11] no prob [17:11] moving on then [17:11] #subtopic #subtopic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-boot-speed-testing [17:11] no update today, since patrick is not here, but he is actively working on this [17:11] #subtopic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-kernel-sru [17:12] sconklin is not around this week, but he told me he didn't have much to report [17:12] #subtopic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-standard-sru-testing [17:12] jibel didn't have anything to report either [17:12] * gema has been doing some questioning before the meeting :D [17:12] this blueprint is not started yet [17:12] ah, jibel you are there [17:12] ok [17:13] hi o/ [17:13] so maybe I should move it to the end of the list [17:13] #action gema to move the standard sru testing blueprint to the end [17:13] ACTION: gema to move the standard sru testing blueprint to the end [17:13] #subtopic https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-test-case-management-tool [17:13] I'll start it after https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-upload-intermediary [17:13] yes? [17:14] because we'll use the same tool to test the packages [17:14] ok, sounds good [17:14] so regarding case conductor [17:14] We've gathered the requirements for case conductor and sent them to the Mozilla QA team. Please, see my last email to the Case Conductor thread in the list for details [17:14] o/ [17:14] yes, alourie [17:15] will you have an official "meeting" with Mozilla folks? [17:15] alourie: I am not sure, I asked them at the bottom of the email how they wanted to proceed [17:15] alourie: I will let you know if it happens, it can be open to more people than just me [17:16] ok [17:16]