[13:41] highvoltage: now you'll have to put up with all my political ramblings on Facebook [13:41] * mhall119 evil laughs [13:48] mhall119: that's ok, I am capable of getting along with conservatives :) [13:50] :) [15:23] Hello. For some reason traffic seems slow here so I'll post my question from a few days ago again. Could someone help me with installing xexit? [15:23] It's an application written by Scott Balneave that kills processes left behind when someone logs out. I have followed the instructions here: http://www.opinsys.fi/en/killing-user-processes-with-xexit-on-ltsp-servers [15:23] for adding the ppa, etc. several times but it won't work for me. I think the issue is that I am using version 11.04 and the instructions are for a previous version. Could someone help please? [15:35] TheProf: I don't remember ever using that one so can't help much. But I wrote something very similar in ltsp-cluster-accountmanager a while ago, just installing that package should work [15:39] stgraber, hello. Does ltsp-cluster-accountmanager make any other changes to the server? [15:40] TheProf: it runs a daemon that monitors consolekit killing accounts and it also listens on the network to let LTSP create guest sessions but doesn't change anything on the system itself [15:43] stgraber, OK. Does it require any configuration once installed? [15:44] TheProf: nope, the only useful configuration it has is for the guest account part, as you won't use that, no configuration should be required [15:44] just check that it's running (sometimes the upstart job is failing for some unknown reason) [15:45] stgraber, great. I will try that now. Thank you [15:45] np [15:48] stgraber, installed successfully. So I'll wait to see once teachers log out that the processes are finally gone and all will be well! [15:52] TheProf: it should be logging in /var/log/syslog so you can check there that it's not killing things it shouldn't [15:52] stgraber, thank you for the help! [15:53] np [15:53] tailing syslog now -- so far it's killed off 4 users :) [16:22] alkisg: hey there [16:22] Hi stgraber, what's up? [16:22] alkisg: looking at the Edubuntu seed quickly this morning. I have a few questions regarding epoptes [16:22] Shoot [16:22] alkisg: 1) should we ship it with edubuntu-kde too? 2) does it work with notify-osd? [16:23] 1) It's been tested in KDE/oneiric, so if it doesn't work in Precise it's a bug that we should fix [16:24] 2) It works best with notify-osd. We're not sure if we should enable notifications if notify-osd is not there, and another daemon is used, [16:24] because those other daemons don't support adding text to an existing notification, [16:24] and it gets annoying to have 10 notifications because 10 students logged in [16:24] well, regarding 2) your Depends: is notification-daemon | xfce4-notifyd [16:24] so currently epoptes brings the old notification daemon to Edubuntu, making everything look ugly :) [16:25] $ apt-cache show notify-osd | grep ^Provides [16:25] Provides: notification-daemon [16:25] That's in 10.04 [16:25] Not sure if that's the case in 12.04 too. [16:26] the provides is there but has notification-daemon is co-installable with notify-osd, it's still being brought by epoptes [16:27] just checking that's indeed epoptes bringing it though [16:27] It shouldn't, it doesn't do that in previous versions [16:27] I wonder if there's a difference in "seeds" as opposed to `apt-get install epoptes` [16:28] yeah, there's, seeds aren't parsed by apt-get directly but by a tool called germinate [16:28] Normally, if notify-osd is installed, the dependency is satisfied [16:28] So no other daemon is brought in [16:29] But if it causes a problems in seeds, we can reduce that to Suggests or whatever [16:30] oh, actually epoptes isn't the reason why we end up with notification-daemon [16:30] it's a bit trickier than that :) [16:31] libvirt-bin in ubuntu-desktop seed => edubuntu-desktop seed => libvirt-bin (main) depends on libnotify4 (main) => libnotify4 (main) recommends notification-daemon (universe) [16:31] Ouch, long chain there [16:31] and as Edubuntu is based on Ubuntu but has universe enable, we get notification-daemon and Ubuntu doesn't ... [16:31] But shouldn't that still be satisfied with notify-osd? [16:32] Is it possible that that gets "parsed" before notify-osd is brought in by other packages? [16:32] yeah, that's the problem, libnotify-bin (not libvirt-bin, that was me multi-tasking a bit too much) is being resolved before notify-osd [16:32] I'll workaround that by adding notification-daemon to our seed blacklist, that should do the trick [17:08] well there's a myth busted for me. I thought ubuntu had universe enabled by default these days. [17:24] highvoltage: we do, in the livefs and target install [17:24] highvoltage: d-i still only has main and restricted [17:24] highvoltage: and germinate for the flavours that don't depend on universe will only use main and restricted [17:24] highvoltage: so nothing from universe and multiverse can get on the medias [18:55] stgraber: ok [21:13] highvoltage: http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Precise/20221518_XQsjKJ#1598159176_TvBwpKk-A-LB [21:13] I wonder why there wasn't any announcement at all about the photos... [21:17] alkisg: there was but not a huge one [21:17] alkisg: they got released 2-3 weeks after UDS [21:17] stgraber: we've been talking about it with highvoltage about 1 month after UDS, we didn't know where to look... [21:17] I've been monitoring uds.ubuntu.com, nothing there either [21:18] Anyway, now I can at last blog about UDS :) [21:18] (I wanted to have the photo with all the people with it ) [22:36] mhall119: Would love to ask you some questions about Edubuntu and what the team is working on ;) [22:59] bkerensa: I'm the wrong guy to ask, I haven't been able to do anything for them in a year [23:00] bkerensa: ask stgraber or highvoltage [23:14] ok thanks :D [23:14] highvoltage: ^ [23:14] :D