| hazmat | woah.. that's awesome.. | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| hazmat | job requirement -> An infrastructure management nut: Chef or Juju preferred. | 00:05 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: nice | 00:05 |
| m_3 | we've arrived | 00:08 |
| jimbaker | http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/15084/devops-infrastructure-engineer-surveymonkey has the detailed requirement. very cool indeed | 00:55 |
| jimbaker | and apparently one other: http://www.dovajobs.com/job-details.html?jobid=4405192&jobtitle=devops+engineer+-+mountain+view%2c+ca&joblocation=mountain+view&jobcountryid=222 | 01:01 |
| jimbaker | ironically, juju.com is a job search engine; doubly ironically, one of the local python users works for them (remotely) | 01:02 |
| SpamapS | jimbaker: haha | 01:08 |
| SpamapS | jimbaker: I used to work for a job board company. Its a weird space.. so dominated by monster and linkedin at this point. :p | 01:08 |
| * hazmat picks up a book on ITIL | 01:31 | |
| _mup_ | juju/ssh-known_hosts r441 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | 04:35 |
| _mup_ | Properly handles key injection | 04:35 |
| fwereade | niemeyer, sorry, I never followed up on the start hook guarantee discussion | 10:22 |
| fwereade | niemeyer, you had more thoughts? | 10:22 |
| niemeyer | fwereade: I have some, and it'd be nice to catch up about the subject at some point | 10:23 |
| niemeyer | fwereade: Right now is not a great time for me, but maybe later today? | 10:24 |
| fwereade | niemeyer, sure, just ping me when it works for you | 10:24 |
| niemeyer | fwereade: Sounds great, thanks! | 10:29 |
| fwereade | niemeyer, offhand: when will we find out dates of UDS in April? | 10:43 |
| fwereade | niemeyer, (or who should I be asking who might know ;)) | 10:43 |
| niemeyer | fwereade: Marianna might be the best bet | 10:44 |
| niemeyer | fwereade: But the page is generally updated as soon as she knows it, IIRC | 10:44 |
| fwereade | niemeyer, cool, thanks | 10:45 |
| niemeyer | "We are excited to announce our new South America (Sao Paulo) Region." | 11:00 |
| niemeyer | Brilliant! | 11:00 |
| therve | niemeyer, finally fast AWS for you? :) | 11:01 |
| niemeyer | therve: Finally :) | 11:07 |
| * hazmat yawnsw | 11:59 | |
| hazmat | another day, another ec2 region | 11:59 |
| hazmat | hmm.. the sao paulo region appears to be the most expensive of the bunch | 12:00 |
| oarcher | hi all. After deploying a charm, all was ok. But after rebooting the nodes, juju status say that 'state: down' for all services, and 'state: not-started ' for bootstrap. But all services are working fine ... Does anybody know how to say juju that everything is ok ? | 12:59 |
| oarcher_ | why 'juju status' bring my node to state 'down' after a reboot ? Everything seems to work well ! | 14:15 |
| niemeyer | oarcher_: Which provider are you using? Local? | 14:16 |
| oarcher_ | yes, i'm using local | 14:17 |
| niemeyer | oarcher_: Ok.. it still doesn't work over reboots | 14:18 |
| oarcher_ | Is it a bug report that i can follow ? | 14:21 |
| hazmat | oarcher_, its a known problem with work addressing already in progress | 14:44 |
| lynxman | hey guys o/ I'm writing a charm for a service that generates a certificate on the server side, I'd like to know if there's any best practices in order to transfer the certificate to the client charm (needed for bilateral auth) | 15:23 |
| lynxman | any charm I can have a look that would give me an example of that? | 15:23 |
| mchenetz | lynx man, bet… installed your port install of juju yesterday and got it working. However, juju did not work for local provider because of apt issues | 15:31 |
| lynxman | mchenetz: yeah I couldn't include apt in my build since OSX was lacking it :) | 15:32 |
| mchenetz | hehe | 15:32 |
| lynxman | mchenetz: happy to hear all the rest worked though, I need to find a way around that | 15:32 |
| mchenetz | lynxman: i am working on a solution with virtual box as a provider | 15:32 |
| lynxman | mchenetz: oooh schweet | 15:33 |
| mchenetz | i will probably create a brew repo after that | 15:33 |
| lynxman | mchenetz: let me know when you do so I can give it a ride :) | 15:33 |
| mchenetz | most defintiely | 15:33 |
| hazmat | lynxman, via relation data | 15:36 |
| lynxman | hazmat: any example I can have a look at? :) | 15:36 |
| hazmat | lynxman, no.. but you'd just encode the cert you want to transfer and set it on the relation... via relation-set | 15:37 |
| lynxman | hazmat: cool! | 15:37 |
| hazmat | lynxman, one qualification to doing that its available to all related units of the remote service | 15:37 |
| lynxman | hazmat: yeah it should be intended to work like that in this case so it's more than fine | 15:37 |
| hazmat | er.. all units of the related service | 15:37 |
| hazmat | cool | 15:37 |
| rog | is anyone else having problems with launchpad? | 15:46 |
| rog | i'm consistently seeing this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771240/ | 15:46 |
| rog | hazmat, fwereade: ^ | 15:47 |
| fwereade | rog, I've seen it once or twice in the past, it usually goes away again quite quickly | 15:48 |
| rog | fwereade: i hope so - i've mucked up lp:juju/go and i need to restore it before anyone notices :-) | 15:48 |
| fwereade | rog, and it's happening for me too ATM | 15:48 |
| rog | good. i thought it might be something i'd done locally | 15:49 |
| rog | fwereade: thanks | 15:49 |
| fwereade | rog, don't worry, probably nobody else could see it... until you confessed :p | 15:49 |
| rog | fwereade: they might have noticed that it had lost the last 2 revisions... | 15:49 |
| rog | "Warning: criss-cross merge encountered. See bzr help criss-cross." | 15:56 |
| rog | yay | 15:56 |
| fwereade | rog, that's *usually* less painful than it sounds, were there any actual conflicts? | 15:59 |
| rog | fwereade: actually, no. i reckon they shouldn't write that message if there are no conflicts... | 16:14 |
| fwereade | rog, I dunno, I think it's quite handy to be notified when you're merging weirdly, but the message could probably use some work | 16:15 |
| SpamapS | fwereade: o/ ahoy there! | 16:27 |
| SpamapS | rog: ^^ | 16:27 |
| rog | SpamapS: hi | 16:27 |
| fwereade | heya SpamapS | 16:29 |
| SpamapS | nijaba: hey, I need to use the ch_peer_* stuff in a charm I'm working on ... are you going to have time to update with the stuff I mentioned in my review? | 16:55 |
| hazmat | nijaba, btw that stuff is awesome (ch peer*) | 16:56 |
| hazmat | glad its there | 16:56 |
| SpamapS | Yeah, its going to make peer relations much easier to read. :) | 16:56 |
| SpamapS | and write | 16:56 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: hopefully ch_peer_leader will be able to just call 'relation-leader' at some point. ;) | 16:57 |
| hazmat | anyone seen this error while running unit tests.. OpenSSL.SSL.Error: [('system library', 'fopen', 'No such file or directory'), ('BIO routines', 'FILE_CTRL', 'system lib'), ('SSL routines', 'SSL_CTX_use_certificate_file', 'system lib')] | 16:59 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: where would we even be using OpenSSL.SSL ? | 16:59 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, it gets invoked as part of the digest auth impl cert checking by twisted | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | what cert checking do we do? :p | 17:06 |
| rog | meeting? | 17:06 |
| hazmat | rog, invites out | 17:06 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, niemeyer, m_3, jcastro, jimbaker, bcsaller, TheMue, fwereade.. its that time of the week | 17:07 |
| jimbaker | hazmat, indeed | 17:07 |
| rog | hazmat: i see no invite | 17:08 |
| TheMue | Yep, no invite yet | 17:08 |
| hazmat | hmm | 17:09 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: joining shortly | 17:09 |
| hazmat | TheMue, rog resent to you individually | 17:09 |
| hazmat | i tried using a circle this time around, but it seems a little flakey | 17:09 |
| rog | hazmat: got it now | 17:09 |
| * SpamapS adds sa-east-1 to the regions allowed | 17:10 | |
| m_3 | be on late... might miss this one | 17:11 |
| niemeyer | Nothing here either.. and I | 17:13 |
| niemeyer | have a meeting in ~17 mins | 17:13 |
| niemeyer | Ah, got the invite now.. joining | 17:13 |
| niemeyer | Interesting that it didn't send a notification | 17:14 |
| * robbiew can't attend...but also knows he's the least important in the "room"...and has NO problem with that reality :P | 17:14 | |
| niemeyer | It's really bad today for some reason | 17:16 |
| niemeyer | I can't hear a single thing :( | 17:16 |
| niemeyer | Now it says "The server connection has been lost" | 17:16 |
| niemeyer | hazmat: Am I the only one having issues? | 17:23 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, yes | 17:27 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, let me try inviting again.. not sure what else to do | 17:27 |
| niemeyer | hazmat: The invite isn't the issue.. I can see it | 17:28 |
| niemeyer | hazmat: It's just so laggy that I can only hear noise | 17:28 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, i'm taking notes i'll send out | 17:33 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, sometimes killing all flash on the system i've found helpful | 17:35 |
| * SpamapS runs test suite for 4th time a/ sa-east-1 added | 17:39 | |
| niemeyer | Doesn't really work.. and Chrome seems to be leaving processes behind when I close it | 17:45 |
| niemeyer | Will try reinstalling the beta | 17:45 |
| niemeyer | Downgrading didn't help either | 17:52 |
| niemeyer | I'm giving up this time around.. | 17:52 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, i had that problem once i had to shutdown both browsers, and hand kill the processes, to clear out all the flash players | 18:29 |
| hazmat | er. chrome /firefox | 18:30 |
| hazmat | twas strange | 18:30 |
| hazmat | m_3, is that github mirror stuff automated? | 18:30 |
| niemeyer | hazmat: Yeah :/ | 18:31 |
| m_3 | hazmat: it's partially so atm... should be fully automated by tonight | 18:33 |
| m_3 | hazmat: and I'd rather trigger from pushes, but it's cron atm | 18:34 |
| m_3 | putting tests and notifications in place b/c git-bzr-ng is... um... problematic at times :) | 18:35 |
| robbiew | m_3: ping...you see my email re:objectives? :) | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | hm, test suite failing on trunk | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | http://paste.ubuntu.com/771484/ | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: any ideas? ^ | 19:29 |
| jimbaker` | SpamapS, you need to clean your checkout of pyc files | 19:30 |
| jimbaker` | SpamapS, so in particular, juju.providers.ec2.tests.test_connect is gone | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | AHH | 19:31 |
| hazmat | hmm | 19:31 |
| hazmat | indeed | 19:31 |
| SpamapS | so, I think we need to fix bug #893176 | 19:32 |
| _mup_ | Bug #893176: do not limit ec2 region to static list of regions <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/893176 > | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | seems like Amazon brings on a new region every 6 - 8 weeks | 19:32 |
| SpamapS | What about just changing it to a free-form string | 19:33 |
| SpamapS | btw do you guys have a good way to speed up the test suite? ;) | 19:34 |
| jimbaker` | SpamapS, not fast enough for you? | 19:34 |
| SpamapS | takes 10 minutes | 19:35 |
| jimbaker` | maybe we could use zk's chroot functionality | 19:35 |
| jimbaker` | so we could run chunks in parallel don't know | 19:35 |
| SpamapS | 10 min is still quite managable.. just wondering if there are any tricks. :) | 19:36 |
| jimbaker` | SpamapS, the other question is, are you running w/ a ssd? | 19:36 |
| jimbaker` | because my time is much better. too slow, i'd like to run it on every change. but fast enough that i'm not certain what it is right now :) | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | jimbaker`: well the .py and .pyc's are all in cache, and the ZK is on tmpfs.. so it shouldn't matter really | 19:37 |
| SpamapS | hm actually /tmp is just / ... so not tmpfs. Hrm. | 19:38 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, it takes under 5 with an ssd | 19:39 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, you can do partial runs by passing in either a package or filename to ./test | 19:40 |
| m_3 | robbiew: yup, sure did | 19:40 |
| * m_3 reading them now | 19:40 | |
| robbiew | m_3: lol...okay | 19:40 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: at this point, I always run the whole thing. :) | 19:41 |
| jimbaker` | SpamapS, i agree with that sentiment | 19:41 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: I do partial runs while developing, but always the full run before commit. :) | 19:41 |
| SpamapS | and now, the full run, in a clean oneiric chroot | 19:41 |
| jimbaker` | ok, i just reran test on my laptop - 2m50s | 19:41 |
| hazmat | nice | 19:41 |
| hazmat | jimbaker`, out of curiosity which ssd do you have | 19:42 |
| m_3 | robbiew: sounds perfect... thanks! | 19:42 |
| robbiew | m_3: awesome...3 down...too many more to go! :P | 19:43 |
| jimbaker` | hazmat, it's the vertex whatever you recommended. i have two, one in my desktop, one in my laptop | 19:43 |
| * m_3 has objectives now! | 19:43 | |
| SpamapS | hrm, why would SSD matter that much? Just for ZK? | 19:43 |
| jimbaker` | thanks for the recommendation! | 19:43 |
| hazmat | we should clean up the status tests, their dogs, they setup entire universes to test a little piece, that will shave at least a 1.5 m off | 19:43 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, yeah.. primarily.. you could also try a tmpfs mount | 19:43 |
| jimbaker` | SpamapS, everything in ZK is logged persistently | 19:43 |
| SpamapS | m_3: If one of them isn't "make clint a sandwich" ... you may want to revise.. ;) | 19:43 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: ha | 19:43 |
| * m_3 revises objectives | 19:44 | |
| SpamapS | hazmat: I always thought /tmp was tmpfs.. but it isn't.. remounting it soon :) | 19:44 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, 38s in.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7PJ1oeEyGg | 19:45 |
| hazmat | actually 35s in | 19:45 |
| hazmat | his whole speil is get an ssd | 19:46 |
| hazmat | gotta run to airport, bbiab | 19:46 |
| SpamapS | so.. weird.. when hazmat pushed to juju trunk the other day, _mup_ noted it. But I just pushed, and no note from _mup_ | 20:03 |
| SpamapS | is _mup_ only watching by *user* ? | 20:04 |
| therve | SpamapS, it's a client side bzr config afaict | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | as in, they're somehow pinging mup? | 20:04 |
| therve | yeah, it's a postcommit hook | 20:05 |
| SpamapS | that seems rather silly | 20:05 |
| SpamapS | I suppose its more efficient than the bot polling all the branches.. but really.. hrm. | 20:06 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: there was talk of moving mup over to juju-dev... perhaps that's halfway done? | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | I think the thought was to just have it *also* in juju-dev | 20:25 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, its a per user client side thing | 20:52 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, i think a bot polling would be more useful | 20:52 |
| hazmat | that sounds like a nice funtime project | 20:52 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: another thing to consider is to just have WTF do it (jenkins has an awesome irc bot.. ) | 21:01 |
| === whit_ is now known as whit | ||
| niemeyer | Woohay.. new lbox built | 21:38 |
| zirpu | what's an lbox? lxc? | 21:43 |
| niemeyer | zirpu: Nah, just a tool some of us use for development | 21:44 |
| niemeyer | zirpu: It's not so exciting really.. it's exciting because I can now do something else ;) | 21:44 |
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