[00:13] <Stronze> anyone help me restore sound to my laptop?
[00:15] <lnxslck> Stronze, explain
[00:16] <Stronze> lnxslck,  bakerfish was helping me get sound to play thru hdmi. he had to leave and i had no sound
[00:16] <lnxslck> ok
[00:17] <Stronze> was was installing alsa but once i terminal installed, sound no longer worked
[00:18] <Stronze> we removed one sound driver but i  cant remember atm what it was
[00:18] <peter__> hi
[00:20] <amason> hi peter__
[00:20] <peter__> hi amazon
[00:20] <peter__> just found this irc chan
[00:20] <peter__> just got software installed with wifi
[00:21] <aanti> hi! someone got a clue why my internet is restricted to 150kb dl in kubuntu ? got my full 1600 kb in windows
[00:22] <Stronze> blueskaj - you awake?
[00:33] <Stronze> anyone help me out with restoring sound?
[00:39] <Stronze> .barkingfish!!
[00:40] <Stronze> your late
[00:41] <Stronze> O_o
[01:01] <jschall> is there a qt version of pavucontrol or a qt alternative for it? or even just a better config gui for pulseaudio (prefereably for kde)?
[01:06] <amason> jschall: usually you can just use the phonon configuation in system settings
[01:07] <jschall> amason: yeah, i'm trying to do some crazy pulseaudio stuff like null and combine sinks
[01:07] <amason> no, pauvcontrol is probably what you need
[01:08] <amason> there isn't much point in creating a qt / kde specific version of that
[01:08] <jschall> amason: the config tool in the system settings should be more powerful
[01:08] <jschall> amason: of course, pavucontrol doesn't even do what i want, i have to use pacmd
[01:09] <amason> well i don't see anything wrong in making it more powerful but i don't know that many people have the desire to do it or are currently working on it
[01:09] <jschall> amason: but an easy gui for using some of the more powerful features of pulse would be neat
[01:10] <amason> yeh no doubt, i'm just saying that i don't think anyone is working on it
[01:11] <amason> since there are already tools available to do that.  generally the focus is on adding functionality that doesn't exist
[01:11] <jschall> amason: hmm. i might try to do something but i'd need to figure out the "correct" way to interface to pulse
[01:12] <amason> well via phonon is probably your best bet
[01:12] <jschall> amason: i've wanted to try to learn qt
[01:12] <amason> the existing configuration tool already interfaces to that
[01:12] <amason> so it should give you a good starting poinnt
[01:13] <jschall> amason: yeah, i mean the phonon config shows all the pulse sinks and sources
[01:13] <jschall> amason: even the ones i added
[01:14] <jschall> amason: so it just needs to provide a method for creation and deletion of modules like null-sinks
[01:15] <amason> cool, well the kde community always welcomes new contributors so i'm sure if you get intouch with the maintainer of that package she/ he will help you add the functionality you want in a way which can be upstreamed
[01:15] <jschall> amason: do you know a lot about pulse and alsa?
[01:16] <amason> not a whole lot. for my uses it's always just worked thankfully
[01:16] <jschall> amason: yeah
[01:17] <jschall> amason: i guess the first thing to do to make a meaningful change would be to come up with a gui design for it
[01:26] <amason> jschall: the ui file is openable in qt creator
[01:26] <jschall> amason: do you know why every once in a while, kde asks me if i've permanently removed audio devices?
[01:27] <amason> no, i've wondered about that a few times myself but it's never bothered me enough to go looking for it
[01:41] <kkerwin> Hi. I have three computers, running Ubuntu, and an NFS server, running Arch Linux. On two of my computers, I have read/write access to shares exported by the server. The third computer has read-only access. I am trying to figure out why. Is anyone available who would be able to help me, please?
[01:56] <kkerwin> Hi. I have three computers, running Ubuntu, and an NFS server, running Arch Linux. On two of my computers, I have read/write access to shares exported by the server. The third computer has read-only access. I am trying to figure out why. Is anyone available who would be able to help me, please?
[02:22] <Stronze> okay, i restored sound to laptop, anyone help me get sound thru hdmi?
[02:31] <frewo> Stronze: with aplay -l you see the devices, with speakertest x,y you can test which one it is. write the x,y-device in /etc/pulse/default...
[02:32] <frewo> then reboot
[02:33] <Stronze> frewo,  speakertest x,y???
[02:33] <frewo> speakertest 0,3 for example. you see the devices with aplay -l
[02:34] <frewo> you will hear a sound with the right device
[02:35] <frewo> that description is for pulseaudio
[02:35] <Stronze> its speaker-test. sudo yelled at me
[02:36] <Stronze> i tried 0,3 just to test it and its repeating over and over
[02:36] <frewo> if you hear nothing then test the next one
[02:36] <Stronze> Time per period = 12.945083
[02:36] <Stronze>  0 - Front Left
[02:36] <Stronze> all its doing and it wont stop
[02:36] <frewo> strg + c
[02:37] <Stronze> strg?
[02:37] <frewo> ctrl
[02:38] <Stronze> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[02:38] <Stronze>   Subdevices: 1/1
[02:38] <Stronze>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[02:39] <Stronze> the other 3 are the same except the other two have this
[02:39] <Stronze> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC268 Digital [ALC268 Digital]
[02:40] <frewo> i have 0,5 0,7 and 0,9 on my machines, all with nvidia
[02:42] <frewo> then try speakertest 1,x    x for the number
[02:42] <Stronze> bah gui crashed
[02:42] <frewo> device 1 is digital
[02:42] <frewo> gui?
[02:42] <Stronze> im using kubuntu gui
[02:43] <frewo> try in konsole and later in kde
[02:43] <Stronze> speaker-test -,1 - 0,3 all came from laptop
[02:45] <Stronze> any other ideas frewo?
[02:46] <frewo> yes. but find out thr right one with speakertest
[02:46] <frewo> you need to knoe the device
[02:47] <frewo> know
[02:47] <Stronze> i only have 3 devices listed
[02:48] <frewo> please paste the output of aplay -l on pastebin or anywhere
[02:50] <frewo> Stronze: and disable onboard-sound in bios
[02:50] <Stronze> http://pastebin.com/wPj37EyV
[02:52] <peter__> is there a VM available to run windows Op Sys?
[02:52] <frewo> Stronze: please try speakertest 0,1 0,3 1,1 and 1,3
[02:53] <Stronze> each seprate?
[02:53] <frewo> Stronze: yes.
[02:53] <frewo> and disable onboard-sound in bios. do you use pulseaudio?
[02:54] <Stronze> um yes?
[02:54] <Stronze> id have to reboot to access bios :/
[02:54] <Stronze> and all was same. 0 - front left. all from laptop
[02:55] <Stronze> btw i have superman returns playing on the tv via hdmi
[02:55] <frewo> Stronze: i think pulseaudio is default. if you know the device, you can also test alsa
[02:55] <Stronze> bakerfish was working with me and he had me do all kinds of things. ended up with no sound so i had to remove pulse and alsa and reinstall
[02:56] <frewo> puhh
[02:58] <frewo> if you use alsa you need a .asoundrc or asoundconf in your /home
[02:58] <frewo> but you have to write the real device in there
[02:59] <frewo> is your device unmuted in alsamixer?
[02:59] <frewo> with m you can enable it
[03:00] <Stronze> slow down sparky, lets take this to the barney level
[03:02] <frewo> Stronze: but pulseaudio is the default for kubuntu
[03:02] <Stronze> kubuntu gui over ubuntu
[03:02] <Stronze> im the kinda person you drives their linux to the mechanic and prays they make it allll better
[03:03] <Stronze> eeer not you,meant that
[03:03] <frewo> with aplay -l and speakertest it should be easy.
[03:03] <grade> hi guys! would like to ask why does my usb drive connect automatically? im using a 11.10 and I already configured it to removable dev.
[03:04] <frewo> need to reboot
[03:07] <Stronze> wb
[03:08] <Stronze> i di these commands to restore sound to my laptop sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove sudo apt-get install alsa-base sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[03:08] <frewo> Stronze: ah, i remember when i did it last time with kubuntu. the device was in use, so i couldnt here anything. i had to edit the /etc/pulse/default.. with a "blind" try and reboot
[03:10] <Stronze> you had to get your hdmi working without hearing it make sound?
[03:10] <grade> sadf
[03:13] <frewo> Stronze: yes, last time. but i was quite sure it was 0,7, and so it was
[03:14] <frewo> Stronze: so you can try it 4 times, reboot after each one. :)
[03:14] <grade> asdf
[03:15] <grade> hi stronze! would like to ask on how can i automatically connect my usb dev upon insert on a usb port?
[03:16] <Stronze> dont look at me, im a transplant from windows
[03:17] <Stronze> frewo - i opened phonon and i can see internal ausio digital stereo (HDMI) but its greyed out
[03:17] <Stronze> audio
[03:17] <frewo> grade: edit /etc/fstab with the uuid of the device. you find it with: ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid if its mounted
[03:19] <frewo> Stronze: yes, because the wrong device is in /etc/pulse/default..  and you have to reboot after every change. later you can try it in kde systemsettings
[03:20] <grade> frewo: I can mount it manually using mount command. but it cant mount automatically upon insert
[03:20] <frewo> grade: yes, write it in /etc/fstab
[03:20] <grade> frewo: i see thanks frewo ill try it.
[03:21] <frewo> like UUID=xxxxxx  /mountpoint   filesystem    defaults   0  0
[03:21] <Stronze> frewo would it be gedit /etc/pulse/default in terminal?
[03:21] <frewo> sudo ....
[03:21] <Stronze> ofcourse sudo lol, im still learning terminal commands
[03:22] <Stronze> frewo - /etc/pulse/default is an empty file
[03:22] <Stronze> cd
[03:23] <frewo> Stronze: it should not be empty
[03:23] <robin0800> Stronze: it should be kdesudo for graphical programs
[03:25] <Stronze> still blank
[03:25] <frewo> Stronze: /etc/pulse/default.pa is the name
[03:26] <frewo> i always use mc for editing
[03:26] <frewo> with internal editor in configuration
[03:26] <Stronze> mc?
[03:27] <grade> frewo: i already configure fstab. but it cant mount automatically my usb drive. I still have to do mount command?
[03:27] <frewo> midnight-commander
[03:27] <frewo> grade: no
[03:27] <grade> frewo: what is it?
[03:28] <frewo> grade: is your mountpoint writeable for the user? did you: sudo mount -a or reboot?
[03:28] <frewo> after editing /etc/fstab
[03:28] <grade> frewo: I have to use sudo mount <mount point>
[03:29] <frewo> can you paste on pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[03:29] <grade> frewo: for a while
[03:30] <grade> frewo: what is pastebin
[03:30] <Stronze> google + pastebin
[03:30] <frewo> its 4.30 am here. need to sleep 1,5 hour to bring my bou to the kindergarden
[03:30] <frewo> boy
[03:30] <Stronze> night frewo
[03:31] <Stronze> you always ahve the duct tape and closet option tho
[03:31] <frewo> Stronze: you will find the device
[03:31] <frewo> n8
[03:31] <Stronze> night
[04:50] <kkerwin> Hi. How do I start a daemon at boot?
[05:25] <christopher> hey after a fresh install, I have 2 hard drives, 1 with all my backups, where do I go to mount drives and what not?
[05:25] <kkerwin> Hi. I have three computers running Ubuntu, and one NFS server. Two of my computers have r/w access to the NFS server, but the third does not. I am trying to figure out why. Is there anyone available who could help.
[05:26] <christopher> lets hope that after the updates I can see my hard drives
[05:27] <christopher> sweet nevermind, they are in dolphin
[05:27] <christopher> cool all my documents and pictures are safe
[07:24] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj you there?
[09:06] <panda84kde> hello everybody: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2 is broken again
[09:07] <panda84kde> http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/KMail2-Link-Broken-On-11-10-Release-Page-td1183089.html
[09:19] <baxeico> is kde sc 4.7.4 available yet in kubuntu-ppa?
[09:19] <baxeico> (hi guys)
[09:20] <qbit> yup - running it since yesterday morning
[09:20] <baxeico> qbit: thanks. I'm still with natty
[09:20] <baxeico> worried by kmail2 in ovelot
[09:20] <baxeico> ocelot
[09:21] <qbit> yeah - I'm on 11.10
[09:21] <baxeico> but maybe now kmail2 is stable enough to upgrade
[09:21] <qbit> mine is a fresh install with no attempt at runnung the so-called 'migration' utility
[09:21] <baxeico> i mean kmail2 shipped with 4.7.4 upgrades
[09:21] <baxeico> i think I will backup my emails
[09:22] <baxeico> then import emails manually
[09:22] <qbit> the migration for kmail1 to kmail 2 just does not fully function
[09:22] <baxeico> and recreate accounts by hand
[09:22] <qbit> I only have a couple of pop3 - everything else is imap
[09:23] <baxeico> do you use online imap or disconnected imap?
[09:23] <qbit> not absolutely certain
[09:25] <qbit> I don't think there is a distinction any more - it is just "imap" now
[09:26] <baxeico> qbit: ok, I used "disconnected imap" till now
[09:26] <baxeico> just to be able to read all my imap emails when disconnected
[09:26] <qbit> akonadi/nepomuk will actually stay connected or poll your accounts in the background even with kmail not running (I think)
[09:26] <panda84kde> yeah, it's "IMAP", but then you get a checkbox to "download messages locally"
[09:26] <panda84kde> or something like that
[09:27] <qbit> unless you specifically turn it off, e.g. set it to 'go offline' when kmail exits
[09:27] <baxeico> and regarding pop3 accounts, you didn't have old emails when you upgraded?
[09:28] <qbit> you can set folder subscriptions with imap, and local folders can hold cached copies
[09:28] <qbit> nope - the 2 pop3 I have are for transient stuff I don't keep
[09:28] <baxeico> ok
[09:28] <baxeico> thank you very much
[09:30] <qbit> my belief is kmail2 is best set up up from scratch - it's what I did and it is working well for me
[10:09] <new2net> Hello. I want to play a sound file, (.wav).  But I don't want anything special, just play it once. Is there a command-line based program to do this?
[10:10] <new2net> ideally like this:  playsound -type wav -file sound.wav
[10:17] <Peace-> new2net:  play file
[10:17] <Peace-> new2net: btw you need sox
[10:17] <Peace-> BluesKaj: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Mi3FIS1Ko
[10:19] <new2net> i see. Because the way this programming language wants me to do it is outrageous, it wants all this super technical mumbo jumbo and then it wants me to write the actual wav binary data to a handle for an audo device and thats just too much, it should be this easy:  play('/path/2/audio.wav','wav')
[10:20] <Peace-> what?
[10:21] <Peace-> rec -o hello.wav
[10:21] <Peace-> CRTL C
[10:21] <Peace-> play hello.wav
[10:34] <new2net> Peace- that's so cool
[12:25]  * e01 ping
[12:25]  * new2net pong
[12:27]  * e01 1 recieved, 287 loss
[12:41] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:47] <e01> halo
[13:36] <foormea> hi
[13:36] <foormea> tell me, when you install openssh-server, it STARTS sshd, but it doesn't add it to your rc2.d, does it?
[13:36] <foormea> i'm just wondering if my sshd is running on my remote computer just because i never rebooted the box after installing openssh-server, or because it somehow gets started in an other way that rcX.d
[13:39] <snikker> when i run cairo-dock, i'v
[13:39] <snikker> e got this error:
[13:39] <snikker> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[13:39] <snikker> (cairo-dock:2532): GdkGLExt-WARNING **: Window system doesn't support OpenGL.
[13:39] <snikker> nvidia drivers are installed from ubuntu repositories, can you help me?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> snikker, have you installed the recommended nvidia driver?
[13:42] <snikker> BluesKaj: yes, i've do it
[13:42] <BluesKaj> kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers
[13:53] <snikker> BluesKaj: drivers are in use
[13:54] <snikker> (current version)
[13:58] <BluesKaj> snikker, kmenu>system settings>desktop effects , make sure your choices are enabled
[14:02] <snikker> BluesKaj: effects enabled, but nothing changed
[14:05] <BluesKaj> snikker, have you tried reinstalling cairo-dock
[14:06] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install --reinstall cairo-dock
[14:08] <DemonWitch> is rekonq stable? i need to download some file and be sure they got downloaded ok. (if not i will install firefox)
[14:08] <Peace-> DemonWitch: use firefox or chromium
[14:09] <Peace-> i have removed rekonq
[14:09] <DemonWitch> kk
[14:09] <BluesKaj> FF is stable , rekonq is ok, but i haven't downloaded anything using it
[14:10] <snikker> BluesKaj: reinstalled, but same error... also google-earth doesn't start
[14:11] <snikker> BluesKaj: reinstalled, but same error... also google-earth doesn't start
[14:11] <BluesKaj> snikker, for google-earth , install lsb-core , but that's no guarrantee either , I gavce up on google earth , google maps works better for me anyway
[14:12] <BluesKaj> snikker, I don't know much about cairo-dock , maybe someone else can help
[14:14] <BluesKaj> IME , google earth hasn't worked on kubuntu since 10.10
[14:15] <snikker> BluesKaj: well i remember that on the previous release of kubuntu both cairo-dock and google-earth worked fine for me..
[14:26] <BluesKaj> google earth dependencies haven't kept up with kubuntu requirements , there's more work being done on google maps since it's easierand more universal to run it inside a browser like chromium
[15:09] <mr-rich> I'm running 11.10 an Google Earth runs fine here, but I do have to manually delete the lock file in .google-earth each time I fire it up ...
[15:10] <kavurt> sometimes kde desktop doesn't function. whatever i clik on the desktop, a four-way arrow appears, as if it want me to move stuff around. is there a fix for it?
[15:11] <mr-rich> kavurt: one of your meta keys may be stuck. Give each one of your meta keys a couple of hard taps and see if that fixes it ...
[15:12] <kavurt> thanks
[15:16] <mr-rich> kavurt: did that work?
[15:17] <kavurt> mr-rich: i rebooted before your answer. i'll try it next time :)
[15:24] <jtheuer> hey, if oneiric chooses the VESA driver instead of my intel driver - what can I do (as there is no xorg.conf anymore...)
[15:25] <Peace-> jtheuer: you can create your own xorg.conf
[15:25] <Peace-> it will be rea
[15:25] <Peace-> read
[15:26] <jtheuer> ok, well. is there some autoconfigure tool? I think there was some ncurses stuff at least...
[15:27] <jtheuer> no, not autoconfigure, configure, auto doesn't work ;-)
[15:28] <Peace-> jtheuer: based on old one?
[15:30] <jtheuer> i'll try...
[15:31] <BluesKaj> jtheuer, is there an optional recommended driver in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers ?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> too late
[15:32] <Peace-> BluesKaj: was not an intel?
[15:32] <Peace-> so intel = > No additional driveR?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Peace-, dunno, that's why I asked
[15:33] <Peace-> intel has not additional drivers
[15:33] <Peace-> they are integrate on kenrel and open sourced
[15:33] <BluesKaj> like vesa, nv and nouveau
[16:46] <chuchumoff> Привет
[16:53] <christopher_> hey how do I get my mic to work in Kubuntu?
[16:54] <christopher_> why the hell doesn't anything ever just work in Linux
[16:54] <christopher_> bought a 5 dollar audio mic and no sound in linux but works fine in windows on another machine
[16:56] <spinegar> im having trouble getting twinview working with the nvidia driver. under X Server Display Configuration in nvidia-settings i can see both monitors. the one that is working has the correct name associated but the monitors that doesnt appear to be getting signal just shows up as CRT-0
[16:56] <spinegar> any idea how i can get twin view working?
[16:56] <christopher_> what nvidia card because twinview works fine for me
[16:57] <spinegar> geforce 8400 GS
[16:57] <Peace-> christopher_: ? you have to check the sound card
[16:58] <christopher_> its an intel sound card
[16:58] <Peace-> ok---
[16:58] <Peace-> christopher_: sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-all
[16:58] <Peace-> christopher_: then try this
[16:58] <Peace-> rec hello.wav
[16:59] <Peace-> CRTL C
[16:59] <Peace-> play hello.wav
[16:59] <christopher_> my next computer will be a mac
[17:00] <spinegar> i got it working
[17:00] <Peace-> christopher_: ah ... well .. .who cares?
[17:00] <spinegar> unplugged the vga cable and plugged it back in
[17:00] <spinegar> weird
[17:00] <christopher_> I do I am sick of nothing ever just working
[17:00] <Peace-> christopher_: you buy a computer that is supported and you will have not issues
[17:00] <Peace-> like dells
[17:01] <Peace-> there are a list of supported stuff
[17:01] <Peace-> you have not read before to buy
[17:01] <Peace-> christopher_: ok it's your problem if you buy something without thinking about it
[17:01] <Peace-> or testing
[17:01] <Peace-> or reading
[17:01] <Peace-> dells sells computer with ubuntu inside
[17:04] <christopher_> lol thats funny the front jack works but the back one doesnt
[17:04] <christopher_> wierd
[17:05] <christopher_> I dont get why Linux is always screwey... thanks for the help Peace-
[17:35] <linus> irc.IRC-Mania.de, 6667
[18:46] <oceandon> how can someone install firefox on kubuntu ?
[18:51] <sfears> oceandon: open up software center and search for firefox... then click install.
[18:52] <oceandon> sfears: thanks
[18:52] <sfears> or "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-firefox-installer" oceandon
[20:02] <captlutra> can you dd a kubuntu cd?
[20:03] <EvilResistance> captlutra:  the livecd images i dont think can be written to discs with dd
[20:03] <EvilResistance> captlutra:  if you want to put the ISO onto a USB drive, there's a startup disk creator or something that can be used (its GNOME though)
[20:03] <EvilResistance> on a CD, use whatever burning software comes preinstalled
[20:03] <EvilResistance> s/on/to/
[20:03] <captlutra> ok
[20:05] <captlutra> EvilResistance: do you know how can i write a .iso to a usb if i am on another linux distro?
[20:05] <captlutra> i suppose unetbootin ... but it's horrible in my opinion
[20:06] <EvilResistance> captlutra:  the Ubuntu (and derivative) ISOs need a USB Startup Disk Creator, or UNetBootin
[20:06] <EvilResistance> there might be other systems, but i'm unaware of how
[20:06] <EvilResistance> check the installation guides,
[20:06] <EvilResistance> it might have something in there for you
[22:00] <sgrover> Finally installed 11.10 on my desktop.  After a while, the mouse freaks out and begins sending scroll and right -click signals constantly.  I can still move the mouse, but can't really use it to do anything (due to the scrolls and right-clicks).  Any suggestions?
[22:00] <sgrover> Google wasn't much help.
[23:15] <bleepingmadness> hellooooo
[23:24] <fk6> Hey, can somebody help me with an installer issue with Alternate 32bit installation CD/USB for 11.10?
[23:26] <fk6> Tried a couple of times and I always get a red error screen during package installation, go to console, and there it says Some packages could not be installed....the following packages have unmet dependencies xserver-xorg-video-all: depends: xerver-xorg-video-ati, but it is not installable
[23:26] <fk6> and then it aborts.
[23:27] <fk6> this is a clean install and I had it previously running by upgrading from earlier ubuntu versions...
[23:27] <fk6> Are there known issues/workarounds for the alternate installer?
[23:27] <fk6> ping, anybody here???
[23:28] <robin0800> fk6: this is a release disk?
[23:29] <fk6> yup, just downloaded via the torrent specified on the kubuntu webpage
[23:29] <fk6> then burned via linuxlive, which also checked the crc
[23:30] <fk6> and its really standard, besides the encrypted root with lvm, but that shouldn't influence the package repository
[23:30] <fk6> i cannot be the first that runs into this :)
[23:31] <fk6> or is this maybe a new install disk? thought 11.10 is out for a couple of weeks...
[23:32] <amason> fk6 have you tried it with the usb cd creator in ubunut ?
[23:32] <amason> because i know that does a bunch of funky stuff to get around those issues
[23:32] <fk6> as you dced, is this maybe a new install disk? or the one from a couple of weeks ago?
[23:33] <fk6> it just misses that one package, all the rest seems to work
[23:34] <fk6> it boots fine, it installs the base system fine, just that one ati driver...i mean how can the usb creator screw up the logic of the installer?
[23:34] <fk6> currently do not have a linux at hand unfortunately, i wiped my linux system
[23:34] <fk6> this is the recommended usb creator on the kubuntu page...
[23:35] <fk6> and it says for isntance that xserver-comon is already the newest version etc...
[23:35] <amason> no idea sorry, i just know that you can't use regular cd->usb utils to make ubuntu cd's currently
[23:35] <amason> ubuntu usb's rather
[23:35] <amason> this is changing
[23:35] <amason> but it's not currently the case iirc
[23:36] <fk6> but the info on the webpage is accurate?
[23:36] <fk6> i followed the info on their download page
[23:36] <amason> link ?
[23:36] <robin0800> fk6: download the iso and burn it to a cd
[23:37] <fk6> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[23:37] <fk6> well, that's what i wanted to try next, but i only have one |CDR left, so i wanted to make sure the installer isn't screwed, otherwise i am fucked....
[23:38] <amason> yeh that it correct. they link to a page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[23:38] <amason> which shows you how to do it if you want to
[23:38] <fk6> followed that to the letter
[23:38] <fk6> booted fine
[23:38] <amason> dunno then sorry
[23:38] <fk6> amason: thx
[23:38] <amason> i've always just used the usb cdcreator and it's worked
[23:39] <OerHeks> check your iso with md5sum
[23:39] <amason> he got it from BT
[23:39] <amason> so it should be correct
[23:39] <fk6> and the usbcreator checks it before burning
[23:39] <amason> apparently unetbootin will work too
[23:40] <amason> there is a usb-creator.exe too
[23:40] <amason> http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download
[23:40] <OerHeks> when you start the install, did you manage to enable networking ?
[23:40] <amason> ah that's what you used was it ?
[23:40] <amason> that should work
[23:40] <fk6> yes
[23:40] <fk6> linuxliveusbcreator
[23:40] <amason> yeh dunno then sorry
[23:40] <fk6> specifically for like linux distros, looks nicer than the kde version ;)
[23:41] <fk6> but anybody know whether the current alternate CD works at all?
[23:41] <fk6> i guess most ppl use the normal installer
[23:41] <amason> i use the alternate cd all the time
[23:41] <amason> i've never had an issue
[23:41] <fk6> alright thx
[23:41] <fk6> also the one for 11.10
[23:41] <robin0800> fk6: don't think any cd burning system can check the md5sum how would they know it?
[23:42] <fk6> takes like 30secs, when you load the image it says crc checking
[23:43] <amason> crc is different to md5
[23:44] <amason> but for this case crc is fine
[23:44] <amason> crc wouldn't be able to tell you if the image had been altered prior to downloading
[23:44] <fk6> i checked it with winmd5
[23:44] <amason> but that's unlikely to be your problem in this instance
[23:44] <fk6> it is correct
[23:45] <fk6> would have been strange if bittorrent screwed up
[23:45] <fk6> i'll try it with a cdrom and report back....
[23:45] <OerHeks> it happened before, torrent, jigdo or ftp download corrupt.
[23:46] <Firefishe> Every time I log in, I have a nautilus window that opens up.  I find this weird in kde, so I want to eliminate the problem.  I've tried every conceivable configuation option check, but I can not find the cause.
[23:49] <OerHeks> Firefishe, nautilus is a gnome application. what folder opens in nautilus ? dropbox, ubuntu-one or something like that ?
[23:51] <Firefishe> OerHeks: I'm aware of it being a gnome app.  What do you mean in the 2nd part of your sentence?  "...what folder opens in nautilus ? dropbox, ubuntu-one, or..." ??  I'm a bit confused on the last part.
[23:51] <Firefishe> OerHeks: Oh, wait.
[23:51] <robin0800> Firefishe: you have probably got save session on exit selected
[23:52] <Firefishe> robin0800: Well, in that case, if I close the nautilus window, then log out, then back in, it shouldn't open it if it's saving a session.  The thing is, I do this in everything from gnome, kde, lxde, etc., and it's still there after months.  How do I disable save session on exit?
[23:55] <Firefishe> robin0800, OerHeks:  Apparently, this doesn't apply if I log in to gnome from kde for a parallel session.  Just tried that.
[23:56] <Firefishe> robin0800, OerHeks:  I'll log out then back in and see what folder opens up.  I didn't pay attention the first time.  Brb.
[23:56] <eydaimon> is there a way to upgrade an installation that was done via wubi? I don't see the upgrade app in the settings menu