| SudoKing | how do you report a spam comment? :) | 00:25 |
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| StevenK | File a question | 00:27 |
| StevenK | Or link the bug here, and we'll hide the comment | 00:27 |
| SudoKing | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/526303/comments/9 | 00:29 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 526303 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "32 bit OpenGL broken on 64 bit 9.10" [Undecided,Expired] | 00:29 |
| StevenK | SudoKing: I've hidden that comment. Thanks for telling us! | 00:31 |
| SudoKing | :) | 00:31 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 08:27 |
| mrevell | Hey | 09:07 |
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| aviksil | Is there any workaround for this vcsimport failure: https://code.launchpad.net/~x3lectric/xbmc/xbmc_git_dev | 09:32 |
| czajkowski | bacon sandwich is the food of gods first thing in the morning | 10:04 |
| bigjools | czajkowski: s/first thing in the morning// | 10:15 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: any time of the day :) | 10:16 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: however I'm lacking milk to make a cuppa tea :( | 10:16 |
| bigjools | there you go :) | 10:16 |
| caribou | morning | 10:18 |
| caribou | quick question : how long does it takes for files to be deleted from the PPA area once they've been deleted on the web I/F ? | 10:19 |
| caribou | I made a mistake in my PPA so I deleted the package. Now it refuses to accept a new upload claiming that the files are there already | 10:19 |
| caribou | even though I deleted them | 10:19 |
| bigjools | caribou: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/990 | 10:21 |
| caribou | bigjools: thanks. I should have known better & RTFM :) | 10:22 |
| bigjools | it's a common question :) | 10:22 |
| caribou | bigjools: Normal, I'm a noobie at building packages & PPA | 10:23 |
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| ajf_ | would anyone have any idea what this dependency problem is caused by? It builds fine on natty/precise/oneric/maverick. It says pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy is "BROKEN" and has an unmet dependency on dh-autoreconf | 12:13 |
| ajf_ | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/87494954/buildlog.txt.gz | 12:13 |
| ajf_ | this is a lynx build | 12:14 |
| ajf_ | I am using dh-autoreconf in my rules file and put it in the control file... is the problem that dh-autoreconf is only in backports and the pbuilder on launchpad won't use backports? | 12:18 |
| czajkowski | ajf_: morning | 12:20 |
| ajf_ | oh, hello, you've caught me using ubuntu :oD | 12:22 |
| odony | gmb: hello, do you think bug 904683 could be a consequence of the build delays due to HW failure? | 12:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 904683 in Launchpad itself "Updating branch seems to last forever" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/904683 | 12:45 |
| odony | gmb: not sure if this is what you mean by "build delays"... and if it is, how can we fix such a 'dead' branch? | 12:46 |
| gmb | odony, No, I don't think so; I think it's part of a separate bug (bug 808930, for reference) which I'm currently working on debugging. | 12:46 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 808930 in Launchpad itself "Timeout running branch scanner job" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808930 | 12:46 |
| gmb | odony, If you've got a stuck branch it might be worth adding a new commit (even if nothing changes; `bzr ci --unchanged` should work for you) and pushing again. | 12:47 |
| gmb | odony, I'll make a note on 904683 that it could be linked to 808930 | 12:48 |
| czajkowski | ajf_: get your issue resolved? | 12:50 |
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| * gmb notes that he wasn't official help contact today; apologies for the confusion. | 12:51 | |
| geser | how does LP sort comments in a bug? by comment number or by creation time of the comment? | 12:53 |
| czajkowski | gmb: wait there is an offical day help person like canonical-is? | 12:56 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: you about? | 13:07 |
| gmb | czajkowski, Yes, though things are a bit confused this week due to vacations and sprints. | 13:20 |
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| ajf_ | Just wondering how/if I can use backports for build time dependencies in a lynx PPA build. Though, I wonder if there was some other alternative to dh-autoreconf that was supposed to be used in lynx if it's not in the main repositories. | 13:21 |
| gmb | geser, By creation time; the numbers are added afterwards. | 13:23 |
| geser | ajf_: you can let your PPA (build-)depend on other PPAs (not sure if backports work too) or you can copy the needed packages into your PPA | 13:23 |
| geser | gmb: ah that explains the ordering in bug #904179. what is used for comments sent my mail? the time when they got processed or when they got sent? (compare the timestamp for comment #2 with the timestamps in the activity log) | 13:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 904179 in fex (Ubuntu) "Please merge fex 20111129-1 (universe) from Debian unstable " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/904179 | 13:25 |
| gmb | geser, Without digging into the mail processing code I'd guess it's the time that they're processed that's used. | 13:26 |
| czajkowski | gmb: ahh didn't know that was just looking for someone to help wiht ajf_ comment from 12:13 | 13:27 |
| gmb | czajkowski, Then I'm the wrong person to ask in many, many ways :). bigjools, StevenK or wgrant would be my first stops for that one. | 13:28 |
| czajkowski | aye bigjools was my next ping | 13:28 |
| czajkowski | :) | 13:28 |
| geser | gmb: I found it irritating in that bug to read the comment about nothing to upload when the comment before it had a debdiff attached (until I looked at the activity log and then the comments numbers) | 13:30 |
| ajf_ | gmb: hmm ok thanks. I may do that then. I thought dh-autoreconf had been the preferred way to do this for a while, so I'm surprised it seems to be backports for lynx, but I could be wrong there.~ | 13:31 |
| geser | the activity log shows that they got added after that comment, yet sort before it | 13:31 |
| lifeless | the sort is by date | 13:31 |
| lifeless | we trust the send date on received email | 13:31 |
| lifeless | the comment numbers are allocated sequentially and represent the order received | 13:32 |
| gmb | One of these days I'm going to write a bzr plugin for grepping lifeless's memory. | 13:37 |
| bigjools | mine just needs more space | 13:38 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: due an upgrade eh | 13:38 |
| bigjools | how can he help ye czajkowski? | 13:38 |
| bigjools | errm "I" help | 13:38 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: ajf_ had a comment at 12:12 | 13:38 |
| bigjools | I have a vague recollection of debhelper being in backports | 13:39 |
| bigjools | you need to go into the "edit dependencies" on the PPA page | 13:40 |
| bigjools | you can change where it pulls deps from Ubuntu | 13:40 |
| bigjools | it's normally only -updates and -security | 13:40 |
| bigjools | or you can copy the relevant package into the PPA if you don't want crackports | 13:41 |
| lifeless | gmb: this one I know due to causing the situation | 13:42 |
| gmb | Ah. | 13:42 |
| lifeless | gmb: when I fixed 'comment numbers are unstable when mails dated in the past are received' | 13:42 |
| lifeless | gmb: -and- | 13:42 |
| lifeless | gmb: when I fixed 'to render comment 1450 on bug 1, we load and lazy evaluate all 1500 comments' | 13:43 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 13:43 |
| lifeless | gmb: to avoid having to evaluate them all I stored the comment number in the db, which trivially fixed the unstable nature by storing it forever :) | 13:43 |
| gmb | lifeless, Right, I'm with you. Fair enough. When people say they "caused the situation" in bugs, I think back to some of the truly weird XXXs that I've removed over the years, most of which carried the name of one of two developers. | 13:44 |
| lifeless | gmb: then of course, I found the horror of the grouping code. | 13:44 |
| gmb | Heh. | 13:44 |
| gmb | Yes, well. | 13:44 |
| gmb | The least said, the better... | 13:44 |
| lifeless | It would be nice to shove that into the db as a directly queryable collection too | 13:44 |
| gmb | Agreed. | 13:44 |
| lifeless | which rmeinds me | 13:44 |
| lifeless | gmb: did you see the two bugs with jaxa comment loading? | 13:45 |
| gmb | Hmm. No, not that I recall. | 13:45 |
| ajf_ | bigjools: thank you :) I'll try copying dh-autoreconf, adding a dependency on backports to the PPA seems a bit overkill for one little build time dependency. | 13:51 |
| lifeless | gmb: ~2 weeks back, am looking | 13:51 |
| ajf_ | czajkowski: thanks | 13:51 |
| czajkowski | ajf_: np | 13:52 |
| gmb | lifeless, Ah, then I may well have seen them and forgotten. | 13:53 |
| jonnor_work | Hi. I am interested in integrating my build-bot with Launchpad. I want to trigger builds in LP from my buildbot, and get the status of the builds on completion/failure. Is there API for this? | 13:54 |
| jonnor_work | I found https://help.launchpad.net/API, but is it available on the launchpad.net instance? | 13:57 |
| lifeless | gmb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/893375 | 13:57 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 867593 in Launchpad itself "duplicate for #893375 Displayed number of comments hidden is sometimes +1 to the actual value" [Critical,Triaged] | 13:57 |
| lifeless | jonnor_work: yes, it is | 13:57 |
| lifeless | gmb: bah, its a dupe. Follow the chain. Note the assignee: ) | 13:58 |
| lifeless | gmb: also bug 818456 | 13:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 818456 in Launchpad itself "Hidden comments expander fails with out-of-order emails ("-1 comments hidden")" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818456 | 13:58 |
| lifeless | gmb: we ave an lp-upstream-tools project ?! | 13:59 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/lp-upstream-tools/+bug/334456 | 13:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 334456 in Launchpad Upstream Tools "Stops working intermittently" [Undecided,New] | 13:59 |
| gmb | lifeless, Ahah. I've unassigned myself - not something I'm working on at the moment, sadly. | 14:02 |
| gmb | lifeless, Note the date on that lovely upstream-tools bug, too | 14:04 |
| gmb | You'd have to ask jcastro, but I don't think that that's used any more, somehow... | 14:04 |
| dobey | how does one unsubscribe a team from receiving bug mail on a source package with the new bugs UI? i only see a way to stop myself getting e-mails, rather than unsubscribing the team now :-/ | 14:10 |
| mthaddon | yofel: howdy - are you doing a bunch of connections to LP codehosting at the moment? | 14:27 |
| mthaddon | (like some scripts or such) | 14:28 |
| yofel | likely | 14:28 |
| mthaddon | yofel: we're seeing a lot of connections as your username - can you check if it's more than usual? | 14:28 |
| mthaddon | and of course, now I say that I'm not seeing as much any more | 14:30 |
| mthaddon | or maybe I am... | 14:31 |
| yofel | still? | 14:31 |
| mthaddon | not *right now* | 14:31 |
| yofel | ok, then I know the source - I have a script that runs a few bzr updates regulary. | 14:32 |
| yofel | Seems I set it to like every 10 minutes once and never turned that back down | 14:32 |
| mthaddon | ah, gotcha | 14:32 |
| mthaddon | if you could scale it back a bit that'd be appreciated | 14:32 |
| yofel | sure, no problem | 14:32 |
| mthaddon | thx | 14:32 |
| odony | gmb: btw thanks for your answers, couldn't reply earlier :-) | 15:28 |
| gmb | odony: Np. | 15:29 |
| mpt | danhg, hi, are you still looking for status/importance testers? | 15:45 |
| odony | gmb: it definitely looks like a duplicate of bug 808930 indeed... so you're saying a new scan will be initiated for any new commit, and there's a chance the scan will not timeout next time? | 15:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 808930 in Launchpad itself "Timeout running branch scanner job" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808930 | 15:47 |
| gmb | odony, Yes, that's correct. Although I don't know how _great_ the chance of the scan not timing out actually is. | 15:48 |
| odony | gmb, the bug seems to data back to july, but we're only starting to experience it this week AFAICT. Branch history size would be a determining factor here? Or is it too contingent to other unpredictable load during scanner job execution to tell? | 15:50 |
| gmb | odony, We think it's history size that's the problem, but we're not 100% certain yet. It's definitely a death-by-SQL issue, though. | 15:51 |
| gmb | odony, AIUI, Launchpad still does something that bzr stopped doing years ago, which is storing the entire history rather than storing tip and walking the graph to get previous revisions. | 15:51 |
| odony | gmb: aww, that sounds like a tricky thing to fix :-/ | 15:53 |
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| gmb | Somewhat, yeah. | 15:53 |
| brendand | anything up with launchpad? i keep getting: | 15:53 |
| brendand | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host | 15:53 |
| brendand | bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. | 15:53 |
| gmb | odony, Luckily, I know some smart people... :) | 15:53 |
| brendand | connectivity and permissions are fine | 15:53 |
| gmb | brendand, This may be to do with an ongoing issue we're having with codehosting. I'll check. | 15:54 |
| brendand | gmb - thanks | 15:54 |
| odony | gmb: we'll probably start to experience it quite often if we've reached some critical size with some of our branches... I don't suppose you have any ETA yet? (I hate when people ask me that question;-)) | 15:54 |
| brendand | gmb - all better. for now | 15:55 |
| odony | brendand: don't have any issue pushing/pulling here, usually when that happens you just wait 5 secs and try again, hoping it was just a temporary thing | 15:56 |
| karni | Hi guys, I'm having ssh issues http://paste.ubuntu.com/771245/ | 15:56 |
| brendand | odony - i tried several times | 15:56 |
| karni | brendand: oh, it's working now | 15:56 |
| === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: Users may experience intermittent problems connecting to codehosting over SSH. We are working on the problem | Build delays due to earlier hardware failure | Translation statistics are not being updated reliably: bug 903532 | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Us | ||
| karni | It failed to push for few minutes, 4 maybe | 15:56 |
| brendand | odony - it was there for about 5 mins | 15:56 |
| czajkowski | hmm topic seems to be a bit long and is getting cut off | 15:56 |
| odony | brendand, karni, yes apparently they have intermittent problms with codehosting, so you just wait a bit more and retry ... | 15:57 |
| odony | woo, I can read the topic | 15:57 |
| karni | odony: yup, worked this time. thanks | 15:57 |
| karni | cheers o/ | 15:57 |
| === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: Codehosting is erratic | Build delays due to hardware failure | Translation statistics may be incorrect (bug 903532) | https://launchpad.net | Launchpad is open source | This channel is logged | ||
| === gmb changed the topic of #launchpad to: Codehosting connectivity is erratic | Build delays due to hardware failure | Translation statistics may be incorrect (bug 903532) | https://launchpad.net | Launchpad is open source | This channel is logged | ||
| * gmb wanted to make it /topic THE SKY IS FALLING | Launchpad is open source | 15:58 | |
| odony | gmb: :-D | 15:58 |
| odony | gmb: regarding smart people, I'm subscribed to the lp-dev ML, perhaps I know some of them too ;-) | 15:58 |
| gmb | :) | 15:59 |
| czajkowski | gmb: glad to see you still have a sense of humour! | 16:05 |
| gmb | czajkowski, I very nearly left "Codehosting is erratic" but for the fact that a) that's unfair and b) ex-and-current-codehosting devs would come and kill me in my sleep. | 16:06 |
| czajkowski | gmb: well into the christmas spirit I see :) | 16:06 |
| gmb | That's me, always ready to hit a peasant with his walking cane at yuletide... | 16:08 |
| gmb | s/his/my | 16:08 |
| gmb | Personal pronouns are hard. | 16:08 |
| czajkowski | less than a week and I shall be back home in ireland for xmas! this time with no snow interrupting my travels! Looking forward to it | 16:09 |
| gmb | Fingers crossed the snow stays away for you. | 16:10 |
| czajkowski | hopefully, short trip as well, only home for 6 days, which'll keep the mothership off my back . then back to London | 16:11 |
| bigjools | czajkowski: it's going to snow 3" tonight, if you believe the met office | 16:14 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: nothing can be as bad as last year. hopefully... | 16:16 |
| bigjools | that was fun | 16:17 |
| czajkowski | I used other words, a lot more colourful and definately not CoC friendly to describe last years travels. | 16:18 |
| czajkowski | Sayting that my mum just emailed saying that had a slight snow fall last night, hoping it now melts | 16:18 |
| bigjools | czajkowski: I love working at home :) | 16:23 |
| czajkowski | bigjools: I'm sure it is handy, right now my view is of Millbank, London eye and Shell building. Looks lovely at this hour of the evening | 16:26 |
| bigjools | I can see black | 16:27 |
| djbobbydrake | seems like launchpad is going berserk this morning | 16:32 |
| om26er_ | "Codehosting connectivity is erratic" >> does that have any relation with extremely slow download for bzr branch ?? | 16:36 |
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| lifeless | gmb: (unused) heh, yeah. | 18:36 |
| === gary_poster changed the topic of #launchpad to: Build delays due to hardware failure | Translation statistics may be incorrect (bug 903532) | https://launchpad.net | Launchpad is open source | This channel is logged | ||
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| dobey | ok, wtf is up with this ~osfs team? | 21:45 |
| dobey | spamming ~registry wasn't very bright was it | 21:47 |
| Ampelbein | dobey: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/181648 | 21:48 |
| dobey | ah yeah, i see that now | 21:48 |
| sinzui | And I was just contemplating a change to addMember to only send users invitations as is done with teams | 21:49 |
| dobey | i was just pondering clicking delete ;) | 21:50 |
| sinzui | I would have too to end this specific issue | 21:50 |
| dobey | but i see gary's handling it | 21:50 |
| * sinzui does not hesitate to stomp on any team that adds him without asking | 21:51 | |
| czajkowski | ah that team is still doing it, thought it was a hoax yesterday | 21:54 |
| dobey | well, not any more | 21:56 |
| czajkowski | dobey: indeed, thanks | 21:56 |
| dobey | thank gary_poster, not me :) | 21:56 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 21:57 |
| jterrace | do source builds have access to the network? i'm getting an error that it can't resolve a hostname | 22:52 |
| dobey | i don't think so | 22:53 |
| jterrace | so my source build downloads things | 22:53 |
| jterrace | i cant do that? | 22:53 |
| dobey | i don't think so | 22:53 |
| dobey | why would a source build download things? | 22:54 |
| jterrace | there are a ton of dependencies | 22:54 |
| jterrace | and our build is scripted to download dependencies when building | 22:54 |
| lifeless | if you need dependencies when building a .deb package, you need them either included in the source (e.g. source v3 multi-tarball) or listed as build-dependencies (with packages available for them) | 22:56 |
| dobey | why aren't they packaged? | 22:57 |
| lifeless | this is for auditability | 22:57 |
| lifeless | and reproducability | 22:57 |
| jterrace | yeah | 22:57 |
| jterrace | well we have patches we have to apply to some of the dependencies | 22:57 |
| dobey | package them as well in your ppa, and add them to Build-Depends | 22:57 |
| jterrace | ok | 22:58 |
| jterrace | will just require a lot of refactoring of our build system | 22:58 |
| dobey | jterrace: we (ubuntuone) do that as well; https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+archive/nightlies has lots of things we've backported, for example. and some have patches that are also in ubuntu already | 22:58 |
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