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justin_hey can anyone help me install ubuntu on my macbook pro?00:26
seidoshave you checked the forums justin_ ?00:27
justin_yes00:27
justin_i have spent about 2 days trying to do this install00:27
justin_and i keep hitting dead ends00:27
seidosall i could really do is help with web search00:28
seidosnever tried installing on a macbook pro00:28
justin_hmm well i keep getting  the error "initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system"00:29
seidossounds vaguely familiar00:31
seidosdid a web search turn up anything justin_ ?00:31
justin_nothing helpful00:31
holsteinhow are you trying?00:31
justin_everything i have found in web searches is for older models of mac's, i tried to use boot camp to install it by switching the cd's after the drive is partitioned00:33
justin_also i have tried using different cd's00:33
justin_the only thing i could find about that error is that i may be using a bad cd00:33
seidosi think i saw that error when i upgraded to jaunty awhile back, had to reinstall00:34
seidoscould've been another incident though...00:35
justin_hmh :S00:36
seidosi can't really think of anything to try, can you check the cd when you boot from it?00:36
seidosis there an option to do that?  it's been awhile since i did an install of ubuntu00:37
seidosi know there's a memtest00:37
seidosi'm reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885287&highlight=initramfs00:38
seidoswhat's the model number justin_ ?  did you search by model number on the forums?00:40
justin_yes its 8.200:40
justin_sorry i was alttabed seildos00:41
justin_im trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on mbp 10.0400:41
seidosjustin_: are you aware of the risks involved in trying to install ubuntu?00:41
justin_yes, i might brick my laptop00:41
justin_if that happens i will bring it to the store and exchange it00:42
justin_:P00:42
justin_i have ubuntu 11.1 on my desktop, 10.04 server on my other desktop and ubuntu 10.04 on my other laptop00:43
seidosi'm not entirely sure what in the firmware would stop an ubuntu install00:45
seidosor even how bootcamp works00:45
seidosbut, i'll give you an ear if you want to get your thought processes out in the open00:46
seidosnot literally *holds on to ears*00:46
seidosi'm not sure if anyone here has a mac00:47
justin_i have made a post on the forums with info :P00:49
justin_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11538407#post1153840700:49
seidosare you open to other distros or do you need ubuntu for some reason?00:51
justin_i would like to stick to ubuntu, i have been using it for a while and just like it00:52
seidosmight shed some light to try fedora or slackware or something.  reading about bootcamp, the problem may be in how ubuntu has to handle the os x partitions00:52
seidosjust speculating :)00:52
justin_yes thats what it seems like00:52
seidos:(00:52
justin_but i cant figure out how to fix that :S00:52
justin_maybe if i fullon wipe the hard drive and install ubuntu :P00:53
justin_but i kinda want to keep mac and be able to duel boot00:53
seidoshave you tried a newer version of ubuntu?00:53
justin_yes00:53
seidossame problem?00:53
justin_i have tried 11.1 and 10.04 and 9.0400:53
justin_yes00:55
justin_exact same problem00:55
seidossounds like the key is with bootcamp after reading wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)00:55
justin_oh?00:55
seidoshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software) says users have installed linux with it00:56
seidosperhaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)#Limitations applies to your case justin_00:58
justin_i shall try that01:00
justin_so now i have a boot camp partition and a blank partition and my mac partition01:05
justin_im going to restart and book from the cd in a sec01:05
justin_although, i have the bootcamp partition but i dont have windows installed01:06
justin_do you think that will make a difference ?01:06
justin_the moment of truth!01:10
justin_NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO01:11
holsteinjustin_: check the iso too01:11
holsteinand the burn01:11
justin_i have 5 diferent copys01:11
holsteinfrom 5 different iso downloads?01:11
holsteinmade from 5 different burners?01:12
justin_2 diferent burners01:12
holsteinmade from 5 different brand CD-r's?01:12
justin_3 diferent iso's01:12
justin_2 diferent cds01:12
justin_1 cd, i dvd01:12
justin_1 cd, 1 dvd01:12
holsteini finally gave up on my mac i had01:12
justin_buttt01:12
holsteini ran xubuntu in virtualbox01:12
holsteinran great01:13
justin_yeah, i have it running in vbox but i want to duel boot01:13
holsteinyeah01:13
holsteini got it installed01:13
justin_oh??01:13
holsteinit would run for like a week, and lock up01:13
holsteinthat was 10.0401:13
justin_how did u get past the interfams error?01:13
holsteini heard it got better01:13
holsteinjustin_: didt have it01:13
holsteindidnt*01:13
justin_oh. what mac did you have?01:14
holsteinand early white one01:14
holstein1,1?01:14
justin_aww01:14
holsteinsomething early01:14
justin_ahh*01:14
justin_yeah with the newer ones it a pain in the ass01:14
justin_they partion the drives diferently01:14
holsteinwith the older one, i just gave up01:15
holsteinshouldnt matter about the drives01:15
holsteinyou can take the hard drive out, and try and run the disc live01:15
holsteinyou *should* try and run the disc live01:15
holsteinfirst01:15
justin_um, the recovery partion in lion is precived as a swap drive by ubuntu01:15
justin_and i have tried every boot option01:16
justin_im not sure if i really want to take the hd out because that would viod the warrenty01:16
holsteinjustin_: you'll need to do something01:16
holsteinim just saying, run ubuntu live, and see01:16
justin_ok01:17
holsteinyou can run and install linux without swap01:17
justin_hmh01:21
justin_how?01:21
holsteinjustin_: sorry... got busy01:26
holsteinyou just dont make swap when installing01:26
philipballewHey. I am not getting a Internet connection from my router. is there a good way to see if I have a router problem, or if it is my school who is cutting me off?02:52
seidosphilipballew: you can ping the router?02:53
philipballewseidos, yeah. I even went to the ddwrt home page from the browser02:54
philipballewwell actually. pinging says it cant find the router02:55
philipballewbut i can visit the page in chrome.02:55
philipballewI thought it was a router problem so i unpluged and re pluged the router02:56
seidosmaybe you have icmp blocked or something02:56
philipballewseidos, okay. I can ping the router02:56
philipballewBut all outside sites are gona. Maybe i am being attacked my the geds :)02:57
seidosphilipballew: log on to the page and check if you have an external ip assigned to the router?02:57
philipballew*feds02:57
philipballewalright. lets see02:57
* philipballew tries to remember where ip address is loacted in DDwrt03:00
philipballewseidos, I dont have a host name or domain name03:01
philipballewill see if the actual port in the wall is bad03:02
seidosi'm sure the feds have bigger problems philipballew03:03
seidoswell if you think you're being attacked philipballew, maybe you should review the security03:04
philipballewlol true. my school may have kicked me off the domain03:05
philipballewwell, I plug my laptop into the cat 5 cord coming from the wall and i have accsess. time to maybe reset the router03:05
philipballewseidos, thanks for the help. still dead. I believe its my desktop thats the problem. I will look into it03:24
seidosphilipballew: weird.  even bypassing router and you don't have internet?03:29
philipballewseidos, yeah, it works there just fine. I think it might be a problem with either the the desktop and nm or the router is just messing up and what not03:31
seidosoh, well, then problem is the router.  maybe reset to defaults philipballew03:33
philipballewhum. alright. ill reset the router.03:33
* philipballew still think ddwrt is the shiz-niz03:34
Unit193DD-Wrt is good alternate firmware, and so is Tomato. I can confirm that dd-wrt shouldn't be the issue in itself03:35
philipballewwell, reseting the router worked. but now i lost my uptime03:41
philipballewI was goin on 2 months03:41
philipballewseidos, thanks for the tips.03:45
seidosglad it worked03:53
seidosmaybe i should thank you for having a problem philipballew03:56
seidosnow i feel somewhat useful03:57
seidoslol03:57
philipballewyou could try to do random acts of kindness and feel really good03:57
philipballewbut thanks!03:57
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s-foxHello.14:43
Anahihi, i have just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop machine... for some reason i cant get access to my hotmail account.. i have tried with firefox and chrome.. none of them work... i havent changed the default settings... i can see the log in page.. but when ever i try to access the page will just take a looong time trying to open... finally it appears "problem loading page"... i have tried reloading... and nothing happens... and also i have tried i15:08
Anahialso my pidgin account wont access msn15:08
SnicksieAnahi, strange... it seams you cant get a connection with the hotmail-server....15:15
Snicksietry setting your pidgin settings from your msn account to 'web' or something like that and test if it works that way....15:15
Snicksiealso, try clearing your dns cache. open a terminal (ctrl-alt-t) and paste (ctrl-shift-v) this command: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" (without quotation marks)15:18
Anahii wil try... thank you...15:28
Anahi:( it didnt work :(15:30
holsteinAnahi: i would also just wait a while.. the hotmail system can be down temporarily, and for just some users15:31
Anahimmm the thing is i have tried several times at different hours in different days... and it is always the same result :(15:32
holsteinAnahi: sure, but theres literally nothing thats going to block you about ubuntu15:32
holsteinAnahi: can you remember any networking customizations you have done?15:33
Anahii have just installed ubuntu 11.10 in my desktop and havent changed the default settings.... the strange thing is that i have a desktop and a laptop... in my laptop i also have ubuntu 11.10 and right now i can access my hotmail account with it... the problem is with the desktop machine...15:35
holsteinAnahi: right... i would double check your password and all the normal issues15:35
holsteinmake sure you dont have caps-lock15:35
Anahiholstein: i already have double checked15:36
holsteinAnahi: triple check then while i look around on the forums and launchpad15:36
holsteinAnahi: can you access your router's config page?15:37
holstein192.168.x.x or whatever?15:37
Anahii dont know how15:37
holsteinAnahi: there is a suggestion to try disabling ipv615:38
Anahihow can i do that?15:38
holsteinAnahi: have you checked for and applied all available updates?15:38
Anahiyep... i have15:39
holsteinAnahi: open a terminal, and run...15:39
holsteinifconfig15:39
Anahihlstein: im really sorry to bother, but i really appreciate your help15:39
holsteinhit the enter key... copy and paste that into http://paste.ubuntu.com/15:40
holsteinyou can pm it to me if you feel it is sensitive15:40
Anahiready.. i have just pasted it15:41
holsteinAnahi: ok... share the link with me, and i can look at it15:42
Anahiok, thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/771236/15:43
holsteinAnahi: open an empty page in FF and go to 192.168.1.115:43
Anahiholstein: firefox tells me "unable to connect"15:45
Anahifirefox cant establish a connection15:45
holsteinAnahi: i have somethings i would like for you to try15:45
Anahisure15:45
holsteini am getting these suggestions from https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4260215:45
holsteinthis is going to be a temporary change that you can decide to make permanent if it works15:46
Anahiok15:46
holsteinopen a terminal and copy this and paste it in15:46
holsteinecho 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_default_win_scale15:46
holsteinreport errors15:47
Anahiecho 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_default_win_scale15:47
Anahibash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_default_win_scale: No such file or directory15:47
holsteinOK.. that got moved it seems...15:48
Anahiyep :(15:48
holsteinAnahi: *carefully* run this15:48
holsteingksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf15:49
holsteinthe result should *not* be an empty file, correct?15:49
Anahicorrect15:50
Anahiit opened up gedit15:50
Anahiand asked for my pwd15:50
holsteinOK... i say be careful becuase i dont want you to change much in there15:50
Anahiok15:51
holsteingo to the bottom and copy paste this in...15:51
holsteinon its own line15:51
Anahiok15:51
Anahiin the gedit document right?15:51
holsteinAnahi: yes... lets add 2 lines... heres the first one15:52
holstein#holstein and i added this15:52
holsteinthen, on its own line after that, add this...15:53
holsteinnet.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 015:53
holsteinAnahi: feel free to copy and paste that into a pastebin if you question what you have done15:53
holsteinyou can copy just a few lines there from the end...15:53
Anahiok.. the first thing is #holstein and i added this..... and then #net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 015:54
Anahiright?15:55
holsteinAnahi: the "#" indicates a comment, so you can tell what we have done, and undo it if necessary15:55
holsteinAnahi: yeah, they are on seperate lines, correct?15:55
Anahicorrect15:55
holsteinAnahi: cool... so, save that.. and you'll need to reboot to see if it works15:56
Anahiok15:56
holsteinAnahi: again, im getting this from.. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/4260215:56
Anahithanks...15:56
Anahican i come back15:56
holsteinand, you can easily undo that if its not working... i'll be here for a bit though if you want to try and report15:56
Anahiok...15:57
Anahii wil do it quickly then15:57
holsteinAnahi: any joy?16:00
Anahimmm just waiting16:00
Anahi:(16:00
Anahino joy16:00
holsteinyeah... try opening 192.168.1.116:00
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Anahi:(16:01
Anahisame result16:01
holsteinAnahi: interesting... i would undo what we did, reboot, and bypass the router, and test, and go from there16:02
holsteinnot sure what that could be...16:02
Anahiok... how can i undo what we did?16:02
holsteinAnahi: same16:02
Anahiand how can i bypass the router?16:02
holsteinyou can open the terminal and hit the up arrow and you'll eventually see the command16:03
holsteinthe gksudo gedit command we ran16:03
holsteinjust delete those 2 lines16:03
Anahiohhh... thank you16:03
holsteinAnahi: you plug right into the modem, bypassing the router, and test16:03
holsteinor, just hang for a bit, and maybe someone else has an idea16:04
holsteinanyways... good luck...16:04
Anahithank you16:04
Anahii really apreciate you taking your  time16:04
Anahinice to meet you16:04
seidos\o16:43
LemonAidWhen you do /etc/init.d/networking restart, are the configurations taken from /etc/network/interfaces ?19:12
bobweaverHello there is there anything that I could use to take a mp3 or a video file and get subtitles out of it or some sort of text file ? Say I had a recording of a song that I wrote and I would like to upload via mp3 then run some sorta software that would convert it to text19:24
LemonAidI don`t think Ubuntu has anything of that sort. What you need is a voice recognition software. Google is your best bet to finding one.19:26
Unit193LemonAid: Yes, that's the config file it's taken from19:31
LemonAidFond that out when i tested it and got an error. For a wlan interface on the line "wireless-key 'my-wireless-key'" i get an error-> argument invalid 'my-wireless-key'. Any ideas? Should that line not be there? And if so, where is the key stored?19:34
LemonAidI mean, where are the keys for all the wireless networks i configure stored? Separate file?19:35
Unit193Is it something like this? http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#WEP_Key_Configuration_for_Debian_.2F_Ubuntu19:40
LemonAidHmm.. i found a file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, but nothing there..19:40
LemonAidLet me check it out.19:40
LemonAidYes, the wpa keys is what i`m looking for. Checking the link now.19:41
LemonAidYeah, that`s the exact thing i`m getting an error on. The configuration file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf does not exist though.19:45
Unit193Did you take a look at iwconfig?19:46
LemonAidUh, what do you mean exactly? I only did iwconfig to see some settings. Is there a conf file ?19:48
LemonAidBecause iwconfig is a script file if i`m not mistaking.19:49
Unit193man iwconfig give you a good look at some features19:51
LemonAidAh, you ment the manual for iwconfig. I`ll take a peak.19:51
LemonAidUnit193, i finally got it :) So the line should look like "wireless-key s:my-network-key". If the key is entered in ASCII it should have the "s:" prefix! I sitl don`t know where the networkmanager stores the network keys though (if it does), is it some sort of temporary file?20:48
Unit193I'd have to look into it, and I may be able to do that tonight :P20:50
LemonAidI give up. I`m too tired right now. What i could find though, were fingers all pointing to a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file, witch does not exist by default.21:21
JackyAlcineI think NetworkManager stores it in different locations depending on the desktop environment. If it's on KDE, it uses KWallet, if on GNOME, it saves it in GConf.21:23
LemonAidLet`s take a look then.21:24
LemonAidHmm.. what i learned from this is that i need to learn more about GConf :) Thanx.21:30
JackyAlcineNo problem.21:33

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