[00:26] <justin_> hey can anyone help me install ubuntu on my macbook pro?
[00:27] <seidos> have you checked the forums justin_ ?
[00:27] <justin_> yes
[00:27] <justin_> i have spent about 2 days trying to do this install
[00:27] <justin_> and i keep hitting dead ends
[00:28] <seidos> all i could really do is help with web search
[00:28] <seidos> never tried installing on a macbook pro
[00:29] <justin_> hmm well i keep getting  the error "initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[00:31] <seidos> sounds vaguely familiar
[00:31] <seidos> did a web search turn up anything justin_ ?
[00:31] <justin_> nothing helpful
[00:31] <holstein> how are you trying?
[00:33] <justin_> everything i have found in web searches is for older models of mac's, i tried to use boot camp to install it by switching the cd's after the drive is partitioned
[00:33] <justin_> also i have tried using different cd's
[00:33] <justin_> the only thing i could find about that error is that i may be using a bad cd
[00:34] <seidos> i think i saw that error when i upgraded to jaunty awhile back, had to reinstall
[00:35] <seidos> could've been another incident though...
[00:36] <justin_> hmh :S
[00:36] <seidos> i can't really think of anything to try, can you check the cd when you boot from it?
[00:37] <seidos> is there an option to do that?  it's been awhile since i did an install of ubuntu
[00:37] <seidos> i know there's a memtest
[00:38] <seidos> i'm reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885287&highlight=initramfs
[00:40] <seidos> what's the model number justin_ ?  did you search by model number on the forums?
[00:40] <justin_> yes its 8.2
[00:41] <justin_> sorry i was alttabed seildos
[00:41] <justin_> im trying to install ubuntu 10.04 on mbp 10.04
[00:41] <seidos> justin_: are you aware of the risks involved in trying to install ubuntu?
[00:41] <justin_> yes, i might brick my laptop
[00:42] <justin_> if that happens i will bring it to the store and exchange it
[00:42] <justin_> :P
[00:43] <justin_> i have ubuntu 11.1 on my desktop, 10.04 server on my other desktop and ubuntu 10.04 on my other laptop
[00:45] <seidos> i'm not entirely sure what in the firmware would stop an ubuntu install
[00:45] <seidos> or even how bootcamp works
[00:46] <seidos> but, i'll give you an ear if you want to get your thought processes out in the open
[00:46] <seidos> not literally *holds on to ears*
[00:47] <seidos> i'm not sure if anyone here has a mac
[00:49] <justin_> i have made a post on the forums with info :P
[00:49] <justin_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11538407#post11538407
[00:51] <seidos> are you open to other distros or do you need ubuntu for some reason?
[00:52] <justin_> i would like to stick to ubuntu, i have been using it for a while and just like it
[00:52] <seidos> might shed some light to try fedora or slackware or something.  reading about bootcamp, the problem may be in how ubuntu has to handle the os x partitions
[00:52] <seidos> just speculating :)
[00:52] <justin_> yes thats what it seems like
[00:52] <seidos> :(
[00:52] <justin_> but i cant figure out how to fix that :S
[00:53] <justin_> maybe if i fullon wipe the hard drive and install ubuntu :P
[00:53] <justin_> but i kinda want to keep mac and be able to duel boot
[00:53] <seidos> have you tried a newer version of ubuntu?
[00:53] <justin_> yes
[00:53] <seidos> same problem?
[00:53] <justin_> i have tried 11.1 and 10.04 and 9.04
[00:55] <justin_> yes
[00:55] <justin_> exact same problem
[00:55] <seidos> sounds like the key is with bootcamp after reading wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)
[00:55] <justin_> oh?
[00:56] <seidos> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software) says users have installed linux with it
[00:58] <seidos> perhaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)#Limitations applies to your case justin_
[01:00] <justin_> i shall try that
[01:05] <justin_> so now i have a boot camp partition and a blank partition and my mac partition
[01:05] <justin_> im going to restart and book from the cd in a sec
[01:06] <justin_> although, i have the bootcamp partition but i dont have windows installed
[01:06] <justin_> do you think that will make a difference ?
[01:10] <justin_> the moment of truth!
[01:11] <justin_> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[01:11] <holstein> justin_: check the iso too
[01:11] <holstein> and the burn
[01:11] <justin_> i have 5 diferent copys
[01:11] <holstein> from 5 different iso downloads?
[01:12] <holstein> made from 5 different burners?
[01:12] <justin_> 2 diferent burners
[01:12] <holstein> made from 5 different brand CD-r's?
[01:12] <justin_> 3 diferent iso's
[01:12] <justin_> 2 diferent cds
[01:12] <justin_> 1 cd, i dvd
[01:12] <justin_> 1 cd, 1 dvd
[01:12] <holstein> i finally gave up on my mac i had
[01:12] <justin_> buttt
[01:12] <holstein> i ran xubuntu in virtualbox
[01:13] <holstein> ran great
[01:13] <justin_> yeah, i have it running in vbox but i want to duel boot
[01:13] <holstein> yeah
[01:13] <holstein> i got it installed
[01:13] <justin_> oh??
[01:13] <holstein> it would run for like a week, and lock up
[01:13] <holstein> that was 10.04
[01:13] <justin_> how did u get past the interfams error?
[01:13] <holstein> i heard it got better
[01:13] <holstein> justin_: didt have it
[01:13] <holstein> didnt*
[01:14] <justin_> oh. what mac did you have?
[01:14] <holstein> and early white one
[01:14] <holstein> 1,1?
[01:14] <justin_> aww
[01:14] <holstein> something early
[01:14] <justin_> ahh*
[01:14] <justin_> yeah with the newer ones it a pain in the ass
[01:14] <justin_> they partion the drives diferently
[01:15] <holstein> with the older one, i just gave up
[01:15] <holstein> shouldnt matter about the drives
[01:15] <holstein> you can take the hard drive out, and try and run the disc live
[01:15] <holstein> you *should* try and run the disc live
[01:15] <holstein> first
[01:15] <justin_> um, the recovery partion in lion is precived as a swap drive by ubuntu
[01:16] <justin_> and i have tried every boot option
[01:16] <justin_> im not sure if i really want to take the hd out because that would viod the warrenty
[01:16] <holstein> justin_: you'll need to do something
[01:16] <holstein> im just saying, run ubuntu live, and see
[01:17] <justin_> ok
[01:17] <holstein> you can run and install linux without swap
[01:21] <justin_> hmh
[01:21] <justin_> how?
[01:26] <holstein> justin_: sorry... got busy
[01:26] <holstein> you just dont make swap when installing
[02:52] <philipballew> Hey. I am not getting a Internet connection from my router. is there a good way to see if I have a router problem, or if it is my school who is cutting me off?
[02:53] <seidos> philipballew: you can ping the router?
[02:54] <philipballew> seidos, yeah. I even went to the ddwrt home page from the browser
[02:55] <philipballew> well actually. pinging says it cant find the router
[02:55] <philipballew> but i can visit the page in chrome.
[02:56] <philipballew> I thought it was a router problem so i unpluged and re pluged the router
[02:56] <seidos> maybe you have icmp blocked or something
[02:56] <philipballew> seidos, okay. I can ping the router
[02:57] <philipballew> But all outside sites are gona. Maybe i am being attacked my the geds :)
[02:57] <seidos> philipballew: log on to the page and check if you have an external ip assigned to the router?
[02:57] <philipballew> *feds
[02:57] <philipballew> alright. lets see
[03:00]  * philipballew tries to remember where ip address is loacted in DDwrt
[03:01] <philipballew> seidos, I dont have a host name or domain name
[03:02] <philipballew> ill see if the actual port in the wall is bad
[03:03] <seidos> i'm sure the feds have bigger problems philipballew
[03:04] <seidos> well if you think you're being attacked philipballew, maybe you should review the security
[03:05] <philipballew> lol true. my school may have kicked me off the domain
[03:05] <philipballew> well, I plug my laptop into the cat 5 cord coming from the wall and i have accsess. time to maybe reset the router
[03:24] <philipballew> seidos, thanks for the help. still dead. I believe its my desktop thats the problem. I will look into it
[03:29] <seidos> philipballew: weird.  even bypassing router and you don't have internet?
[03:31] <philipballew> seidos, yeah, it works there just fine. I think it might be a problem with either the the desktop and nm or the router is just messing up and what not
[03:33] <seidos> oh, well, then problem is the router.  maybe reset to defaults philipballew
[03:33] <philipballew> hum. alright. ill reset the router.
[03:34]  * philipballew still think ddwrt is the shiz-niz
[03:35] <Unit193> DD-Wrt is good alternate firmware, and so is Tomato. I can confirm that dd-wrt shouldn't be the issue in itself
[03:41] <philipballew> well, reseting the router worked. but now i lost my uptime
[03:41] <philipballew> I was goin on 2 months
[03:45] <philipballew> seidos, thanks for the tips.
[03:53] <seidos> glad it worked
[03:56] <seidos> maybe i should thank you for having a problem philipballew
[03:57] <seidos> now i feel somewhat useful
[03:57] <seidos> lol
[03:57] <philipballew> you could try to do random acts of kindness and feel really good
[03:57] <philipballew> but thanks!
[14:43] <s-fox> Hello.
[15:08] <Anahi> hi, i have just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop machine... for some reason i cant get access to my hotmail account.. i have tried with firefox and chrome.. none of them work... i havent changed the default settings... i can see the log in page.. but when ever i try to access the page will just take a looong time trying to open... finally it appears "problem loading page"... i have tried reloading... and nothing happens... and also i have tried i
[15:08] <Anahi> also my pidgin account wont access msn
[15:15] <Snicksie> Anahi, strange... it seams you cant get a connection with the hotmail-server....
[15:15] <Snicksie> try setting your pidgin settings from your msn account to 'web' or something like that and test if it works that way....
[15:18] <Snicksie> also, try clearing your dns cache. open a terminal (ctrl-alt-t) and paste (ctrl-shift-v) this command: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" (without quotation marks)
[15:28] <Anahi> i wil try... thank you...
[15:30] <Anahi> :( it didnt work :(
[15:31] <holstein> Anahi: i would also just wait a while.. the hotmail system can be down temporarily, and for just some users
[15:32] <Anahi> mmm the thing is i have tried several times at different hours in different days... and it is always the same result :(
[15:32] <holstein> Anahi: sure, but theres literally nothing thats going to block you about ubuntu
[15:33] <holstein> Anahi: can you remember any networking customizations you have done?
[15:35] <Anahi> i have just installed ubuntu 11.10 in my desktop and havent changed the default settings.... the strange thing is that i have a desktop and a laptop... in my laptop i also have ubuntu 11.10 and right now i can access my hotmail account with it... the problem is with the desktop machine...
[15:35] <holstein> Anahi: right... i would double check your password and all the normal issues
[15:35] <holstein> make sure you dont have caps-lock
[15:36] <Anahi> holstein: i already have double checked
[15:36] <holstein> Anahi: triple check then while i look around on the forums and launchpad
[15:37] <holstein> Anahi: can you access your router's config page?
[15:37] <holstein> 192.168.x.x or whatever?
[15:37] <Anahi> i dont know how
[15:38] <holstein> Anahi: there is a suggestion to try disabling ipv6
[15:38] <Anahi> how can i do that?
[15:38] <holstein> Anahi: have you checked for and applied all available updates?
[15:39] <Anahi> yep... i have
[15:39] <holstein> Anahi: open a terminal, and run...
[15:39] <holstein> ifconfig
[15:39] <Anahi> hlstein: im really sorry to bother, but i really appreciate your help
[15:40] <holstein> hit the enter key... copy and paste that into http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:40] <holstein> you can pm it to me if you feel it is sensitive
[15:41] <Anahi> ready.. i have just pasted it
[15:42] <holstein> Anahi: ok... share the link with me, and i can look at it
[15:43] <Anahi> ok, thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/771236/
[15:43] <holstein> Anahi: open an empty page in FF and go to 192.168.1.1
[15:45] <Anahi> holstein: firefox tells me "unable to connect"
[15:45] <Anahi> firefox cant establish a connection
[15:45] <holstein> Anahi: i have somethings i would like for you to try
[15:45] <Anahi> sure
[15:45] <holstein> i am getting these suggestions from https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/42602
[15:46] <holstein> this is going to be a temporary change that you can decide to make permanent if it works
[15:46] <Anahi> ok
[15:46] <holstein> open a terminal and copy this and paste it in
[15:46] <holstein> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_default_win_scale
[15:47] <holstein> report errors
[15:47] <Anahi> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_default_win_scale
[15:47] <Anahi> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_default_win_scale: No such file or directory
[15:48] <holstein> OK.. that got moved it seems...
[15:48] <Anahi> yep :(
[15:48] <holstein> Anahi: *carefully* run this
[15:49] <holstein> gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[15:49] <holstein> the result should *not* be an empty file, correct?
[15:50] <Anahi> correct
[15:50] <Anahi> it opened up gedit
[15:50] <Anahi> and asked for my pwd
[15:50] <holstein> OK... i say be careful becuase i dont want you to change much in there
[15:51] <Anahi> ok
[15:51] <holstein> go to the bottom and copy paste this in...
[15:51] <holstein> on its own line
[15:51] <Anahi> ok
[15:51] <Anahi> in the gedit document right?
[15:52] <holstein> Anahi: yes... lets add 2 lines... heres the first one
[15:52] <holstein> #holstein and i added this
[15:53] <holstein> then, on its own line after that, add this...
[15:53] <holstein> net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0
[15:53] <holstein> Anahi: feel free to copy and paste that into a pastebin if you question what you have done
[15:53] <holstein> you can copy just a few lines there from the end...
[15:54] <Anahi> ok.. the first thing is #holstein and i added this..... and then #net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0
[15:55] <Anahi> right?
[15:55] <holstein> Anahi: the "#" indicates a comment, so you can tell what we have done, and undo it if necessary
[15:55] <holstein> Anahi: yeah, they are on seperate lines, correct?
[15:55] <Anahi> correct
[15:56] <holstein> Anahi: cool... so, save that.. and you'll need to reboot to see if it works
[15:56] <Anahi> ok
[15:56] <holstein> Anahi: again, im getting this from.. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/42602
[15:56] <Anahi> thanks...
[15:56] <Anahi> can i come back
[15:56] <holstein> and, you can easily undo that if its not working... i'll be here for a bit though if you want to try and report
[15:57] <Anahi> ok...
[15:57] <Anahi> i wil do it quickly then
[16:00] <holstein> Anahi: any joy?
[16:00] <Anahi> mmm just waiting
[16:00] <Anahi> :(
[16:00] <Anahi> no joy
[16:00] <holstein> yeah... try opening 192.168.1.1
[16:01] <Anahi> :(
[16:01] <Anahi> same result
[16:02] <holstein> Anahi: interesting... i would undo what we did, reboot, and bypass the router, and test, and go from there
[16:02] <holstein> not sure what that could be...
[16:02] <Anahi> ok... how can i undo what we did?
[16:02] <holstein> Anahi: same
[16:02] <Anahi> and how can i bypass the router?
[16:03] <holstein> you can open the terminal and hit the up arrow and you'll eventually see the command
[16:03] <holstein> the gksudo gedit command we ran
[16:03] <holstein> just delete those 2 lines
[16:03] <Anahi> ohhh... thank you
[16:03] <holstein> Anahi: you plug right into the modem, bypassing the router, and test
[16:04] <holstein> or, just hang for a bit, and maybe someone else has an idea
[16:04] <holstein> anyways... good luck...
[16:04] <Anahi> thank you
[16:04] <Anahi> i really apreciate you taking your  time
[16:04] <Anahi> nice to meet you
[16:43] <seidos> \o
[19:12] <LemonAid> When you do /etc/init.d/networking restart, are the configurations taken from /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:24] <bobweaver> Hello there is there anything that I could use to take a mp3 or a video file and get subtitles out of it or some sort of text file ? Say I had a recording of a song that I wrote and I would like to upload via mp3 then run some sorta software that would convert it to text
[19:26] <LemonAid> I don`t think Ubuntu has anything of that sort. What you need is a voice recognition software. Google is your best bet to finding one.
[19:31] <Unit193> LemonAid: Yes, that's the config file it's taken from
[19:34] <LemonAid> Fond that out when i tested it and got an error. For a wlan interface on the line "wireless-key 'my-wireless-key'" i get an error-> argument invalid 'my-wireless-key'. Any ideas? Should that line not be there? And if so, where is the key stored?
[19:35] <LemonAid> I mean, where are the keys for all the wireless networks i configure stored? Separate file?
[19:40] <Unit193> Is it something like this? http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#WEP_Key_Configuration_for_Debian_.2F_Ubuntu
[19:40] <LemonAid> Hmm.. i found a file /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, but nothing there..
[19:40] <LemonAid> Let me check it out.
[19:41] <LemonAid> Yes, the wpa keys is what i`m looking for. Checking the link now.
[19:45] <LemonAid> Yeah, that`s the exact thing i`m getting an error on. The configuration file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf does not exist though.
[19:46] <Unit193> Did you take a look at iwconfig?
[19:48] <LemonAid> Uh, what do you mean exactly? I only did iwconfig to see some settings. Is there a conf file ?
[19:49] <LemonAid> Because iwconfig is a script file if i`m not mistaking.
[19:51] <Unit193> man iwconfig give you a good look at some features
[19:51] <LemonAid> Ah, you ment the manual for iwconfig. I`ll take a peak.
[20:48] <LemonAid> Unit193, i finally got it :) So the line should look like "wireless-key s:my-network-key". If the key is entered in ASCII it should have the "s:" prefix! I sitl don`t know where the networkmanager stores the network keys though (if it does), is it some sort of temporary file?
[20:50] <Unit193> I'd have to look into it, and I may be able to do that tonight :P
[21:21] <LemonAid> I give up. I`m too tired right now. What i could find though, were fingers all pointing to a /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file, witch does not exist by default.
[21:23] <JackyAlcine> I think NetworkManager stores it in different locations depending on the desktop environment. If it's on KDE, it uses KWallet, if on GNOME, it saves it in GConf.
[21:24] <LemonAid> Let`s take a look then.
[21:30] <LemonAid> Hmm.. what i learned from this is that i need to learn more about GConf :) Thanx.
[21:33] <JackyAlcine> No problem.