| hads | Meh, a week after shifting to IMAP+ on Evolution things have gone downhill. All of a sudden it can't remember my IMAP passwords anymore which is relatively annoying. | 00:06 |
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| ibeardslee | just the problem with passwords or IMAP+ has gone bad? | 00:08 |
| ibeardslee | My problem I had when I tried IMAP+ was forgetting to change the port :( | 00:09 |
| hads | Just the passwords problem, and it magically marks messages as unread when moving folders occasionally. Both problems have appeared on two different boxes. | 00:10 |
| hads | Having a password dialog popup every few minutes is a little tedius though. | 00:11 |
| ibeardslee | yeah that would be quite suck .. so the solution is to remember or change your passwords? | 00:31 |
| * G hands hads a muttrc file :P | 00:50 | |
| hads | I do have a muttrc, I've just never got into CLI mail for some reason. | 04:35 |
| mwhudson | i've never really got other the "wtf is going on" point with mutt | 04:43 |
| ojwb | it's a pretty standard email UI | 04:47 |
| G | I only got used to mutt after I had used irssi for a good few years, plus running mutt against local maildir is so much better than remote imap :) | 05:10 |
| hads | I've used irssi for years, mutt not enough yet to make it stick | 07:12 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 18:33 |
| chilts | morning | 18:40 |
| ajmitch | morning | 19:27 |
| chilts | I didn't realise that Oracle had 'retired' the license for distributors to distribute Java | 19:37 |
| chilts | I don't use or need it, but it's pretty sad | 19:37 |
| chilts | though I guess that'll mean the openjdk will get better as people fix things (I hope) | 19:38 |
| lifeless | hmm, whatnow? | 19:39 |
| chilts | lifeless: just got this one sent out to Security Announce - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-December/001528.html | 19:46 |
| lifeless | wow | 19:47 |
| lifeless | oracle stuuupid | 19:47 |
| ajmitch | they enjoy shooting themselves in the foot like that, since they know they'll rake in money from other places | 19:48 |
| ibeardslee | yeap .. add that to this .. http://www.techworld.com.au/article/410298/university_accuses_oracle_extortion_lies_rigged_demo_lawsuit | 19:49 |
| ajmitch | there's no shortage of examples of oracle being bad | 19:50 |
| chilts | indeed | 19:51 |
| lifeless | http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the | 19:56 |
| chilts | well, that's certainly a more interesting article | 20:09 |
| ajmitch | the clarifications also state that for something to be marked compatible, it'll have to be derived from openjdk | 20:14 |
| ibeardslee | which seems to imply that ubuntu announcement is not all that bad after all | 20:19 |
| ajmitch | assuming that stuff works equally well on the oracle JDK & openjdk | 20:21 |
| ibeardslee | this is true | 20:21 |
| ajmitch | that oracle blog post implied that the java plugin isn't part of openjdk | 20:22 |
| ajmitch | or at least not part of the standard | 20:22 |
| mwhudson | not containing the browser plugin definitely sounds like a useful feature | 20:31 |
| thumper | morning | 20:32 |
| ojwb | morning | 21:23 |
| ojwb | i get the strong impression that use of the java plugin has declined greatly | 21:25 |
| ojwb | i don't have one installed, and I can't recall the last time I noticed, whereas sites nag me several times a day about not having flash | 21:25 |
| chilts | I think Java in the browser died in around 1998 for me | 21:47 |
| chilts | ok, maybe 1999 | 21:48 |
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