[00:21] <greg-g> brousch: just mom and dad so far :)
[00:35] <rick_h__> Blazeix: yea, went to the store tonight. They're out of them. Last one they didn't accidentally sell is "reserved for demo"
[00:36] <rick_h__> Blazeix: so I think I'm down to just freaking website'ing it and overnight
[01:16] <snap-l> God, no matter what Caribou we go to, there's always someone doing some fucking MLM bullshit.
[01:19] <snap-l> I can smell the bullshit pitches a mile away.
[01:30] <greg-g> MLM?
[01:36] <_stink_> i had to google it too
[01:36] <_stink_> but yeah, sounds about right
[01:37] <_stink_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing
[01:37] <snap-l> Yep
[01:37] <snap-l> Usually a younger woman trying to make a hard sell
[01:37] <snap-l> talking about how much of a cut they can make on something
[01:38] <snap-l> Like one time when we were at the Madison Heights store, and this girl was trying to sell long distance service or some shit.
[01:58] <jcastro> rick_h__: yo
[02:30] <greg-g> wearing a babybjorn at the keyboard really tests your touch typing :)
[02:53] <rick_h__> jcastro: dude
[02:53] <rick_h__> greg-g: babyjorn ftw!
[02:53] <rick_h__> greg-g: loved mine, but doesn't last as long as you'd hope for
[03:01] <snap-l> :wq
[03:01] <snap-l> bah
[06:02] <rick_h__> yes, I stayed up until the 1am galaxy nexus release
[06:02] <rick_h__> sleepy...
[12:12] <Wolfger> LOL @ rick_h__
[12:12] <Wolfger> Morning
[12:12] <rick_h__> morning
[12:12] <Wolfger> Did the Nexus actually get released?
[12:12] <rick_h__> yes, finally
[12:12] <rick_h__> now the wait for the tracking number begins
[12:12] <Wolfger> was it worth staying up for?
[12:13] <rick_h__> rumor is that if you got next day air, and ordered at 1am, it'll arrive friday
[12:13] <rick_h__> if it arrives today...yes...else no
[12:17] <Wolfger> Only a coder would phrase that as if..then..else
[13:18] <snap-l> Did you heaar that FedEx went on strike?
[13:18] <rick_h__> :P
[13:20] <Wolfger> hahahahaha!
[13:20] <Wolfger> snap-l: you are mean
[13:20] <snap-l> I'm not mean. :)
[13:21] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/12/15/open-metalcast-special-episode-happy-holidays-2011/
[13:21] <snap-l> Please just listen to the first minute if you don't want the rest of the episode
[13:23] <rick_h__> snap-l: lol
[13:23] <rick_h__> A+
[13:23] <snap-l> rick_h__: Thanks. :)
[15:12] <brousch> for your entertainment, my error message of the day: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/473/
[15:13] <_stink_> lulz
[15:15] <rick_h__> nice one
[15:15] <snap-l> brousch: This is a notification that the author of the software that produced this file that it does not conform to Adobe's published PDF specification.
[15:17] <brousch> even adobe reader X was choking on it, so it really was messed up
[15:18] <brousch> that message is from imagemagick/ghostscript though
[15:20] <rick_h__> http://barry.warsaw.us/software/laws.html
[15:22] <snap-l> jcastro: Dr. Frick is bringing his machine over to my house on Saturday. :)
[15:22] <snap-l> Apparently the latest upgrade boofed his machine.
[15:23] <jcastro> oh?
[15:23] <jcastro> frick is awesome
[15:23] <snap-l> Yeah, I know
[15:23] <snap-l> Apparently he was at your wedding too. :)
[15:24] <snap-l> So I'll do my best to get it sorted.
[15:25] <brousch> nice name
[15:25] <brousch> almost as good as Dr. Pepper, who teaches non-human primates at U-M
[15:27]  * Wolfger taps the glass. "Is this thing back on now?"
[15:27] <snap-l> Wolfger: wb
[15:28] <Wolfger> woot
[15:29] <Wolfger> So before I lost my connection, I was about to comment on a BoingBoing story about Higgs Boson particles...
[15:29] <Wolfger> Is it just me, or does "gigaelectronvolts" sound completely made up?
[15:29] <brousch> just you
[15:29] <Wolfger> ...and not at all like a unit of measurement for *mass*
[15:29] <_stink_> it's so fun to say!
[15:29] <snap-l> Sounds like something from a 1950s sci fi serial
[15:30] <snap-l> "And now I shall unleash the power of my megatron laser and fill the Earth with gigaelectronvolts of pure HATE"
[15:31] <snap-l> Wolfger: IT's a measurement of energy, iirc.
[15:32] <snap-l> and by iirc, I mean wikipedia.
[15:32] <snap-l> and I'm being corrected in-house.
[15:33] <snap-l> You should all have an in-home Physicist. Makes things so much easier.
[15:35] <Wolfger> http://boingboing.net/2011/12/15/3-things-can-teach-you.html
[15:36] <Wolfger> ^ the referenced article
[15:36] <Wolfger> I would love to have an in-home physicist.
[15:37] <Wolfger> also an in-home pharmacist
[15:37] <brousch> the internets are in your home
[15:39] <Wolfger> only one measly wire of the internet :-p
[15:39] <Wolfger> well, and some 3G signals of it I suppose
[15:39] <snap-l> All hail the wire and the wireless.
[15:43] <_stink_> man,  i have to admit
[15:43] <_stink_> this is a really good article.
[15:43] <_stink_> hooray for decent science writing.
[15:43] <snap-l> _stink_: Yeah, it's a rare thing nowadays
[15:44] <Wolfger> Interesting idea for a chair. I'm actually tempted to get one. http://www.amazon.com/Health-Mark-BT20000-Swiss-Chair/dp/B000X1O066
[15:45] <snap-l> I think several of our ranks have tried that chair
[15:45] <snap-l> or something similar.
[15:45] <rick_h__> Wolfger: I've got a ball I use some
[15:45] <rick_h__> lot cheaper
[15:46] <rick_h__> yes, missing out on the legs to really keep it in one place, but meh
[15:46] <Wolfger> Waitaminute.... they have a version that has a back... and it's cheaper? Something not right about that.
[15:47] <rick_h__> lol
[15:47] <Wolfger> Ah, different brand. Not sure I'd want a back on it anyway.
[15:48] <Wolfger> but now I'm thinking, that base should be fairly cheap and easy to make.
[15:49] <Wolfger> $10 set of caster, maybe
[15:49] <Wolfger> would be uglier, but who is ever going to see it?
[15:50] <snap-l> http://www.amazon.com/Isokinetics-Inc-Brand-Exercise-Ball/dp/B000YJMAYQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t
[16:11] <snap-l> I swear, I want to throttle everyone that makes a site that only works with IE.
[16:12] <mydogsname1srudy> IE  is the best
[16:18] <Wolfger> snap-l: I support your endeavor and will attempt to land a spot on any jury that hears your case.
[16:30] <snap-l> heh
[16:39] <mydogsname1srudy> upgrading my precise
[16:43] <snap-l> OK, this is more like it
[16:44] <snap-l> rather than requiring me to ship three boxes of equipment to IT, I can just take it over to UPS and they'll box it and ship it.
[16:44] <snap-l> at their expense.
[16:44] <snap-l> <3
[16:45] <mydogsname1srudy> so if there going to do all the work , what do we pay you to do
[16:46] <Wolfger> we pay him?
[16:46] <mydogsname1srudy> doh
[18:39] <snap-l> Now seeing Galaxy Nexus ads.
[18:40] <rick_h__> heh, Blazeix got his
[18:44] <snap-l> Also, apparently you're a douchebag if you own a Windows Phone. :)
[18:45] <rick_h__> works for me
[18:51] <brousch> anyone use miro?
[18:51] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, I do
[18:52] <brousch> any good?
[18:52] <snap-l> I like it
[18:52] <snap-l> It works for what I need it to do
[18:52] <brousch> it converts to android?
[18:52] <snap-l> Apparently?
[18:52] <snap-l> Never used it.
[18:52] <brousch> so i can push videos to my nookcolor?
[18:53] <snap-l> It has several options for converting to different phones / tablets
[18:53] <brousch> i want to replace my TV viewing with the big-ass backlog of online videos i want to watch
[18:54] <snap-l> Yeah, I use it on my local machine for viewing
[18:54] <brousch> but i need a central place to queue them
[18:54] <snap-l> I'm sure all it does is just transcode using ffmpeg or the like
[18:54] <Wolfger> snap-l: Did you buy a Windows phone?
[18:54] <brousch> and preferably watch on my nook so i don't have to lug my laptop everywhere
[18:55] <snap-l> Wolfger: No, I got you one for the holidays
[18:55] <snap-l> Wolfger: But you spoiled the surprise, so now I have to send it back
[18:55] <snap-l> I hope you're happy.
[18:56] <Wolfger> brousch: That's sad. We've gotten to the point where laptops are too cumbersome to take with us and we need to replace them with smaller devices.
[18:56] <Wolfger> snap-l: I am happy. That was a close call. Glad I spoke up! :-)
[18:57] <rick_h__> buy a smaller laptop...problem solved
[18:58] <rick_h__> heh, wife found out I'm tired because I stayed up past 1am to "order a stupid phone"
[18:58] <Wolfger> ROFL
[18:58] <rick_h__> "you're not getting any sympathy from me, that's just stupid!"
[18:58] <Wolfger> she's got a point
[18:59] <Wolfger> the point possibly being "you should have lied about why you are tired"
[19:00] <rick_h__> nah, got in enough trouble because, while I told her for a while I'd be getting it in dec, she didn't realize I was going to lay out $$ for it atm
[19:00] <brousch> well a 8lb laptop with a spinning HD is much more cumbersome than a 1.5lb tablet with flash memory
[19:00] <Wolfger> weakling.
[19:01] <brousch> i want to jump in the car and go to lunch, not shut down all my stuff, pack up my bag, and then unpack at the restaurant
[19:01] <Wolfger> That's what phones are for.
[19:02] <Wolfger> Wolfger: that's sad. We've gotten to the point where phones are no longer existing for the purpose of making phone calls. Also sad that you're talking to yourself.
[19:04] <brousch> but sometimes i want to read, sometimes watch videos. nook is better for both of those
[19:04] <brousch> better than my crusty old droid1 anyways
[19:08] <Wolfger> brousch: Bah, I say. At least until xmas, when I get my Kindle and then pronounce my phone an inferior reading device.
[19:10] <brousch> heh
[19:11] <brousch> wow, python code is right on the front page of khan academy http://www.khanacademy.org/#browse
[19:11] <rick_h__> because python rules!
[19:12] <Wolfger> Looks like Buzz was murdered while I slept. :-(
[19:12] <snap-l> the butler did it
[19:12] <Wolfger> I was on it just last night. Today, no sign of the corpse.
[19:13] <snap-l> It has ascended
[19:13] <Wolfger> At least I'm back on Plus again, sort of...
[19:25] <brousch> hm, miro is not what i need. it is good for finding new content, but i want to queue up content i already have picked out
[19:26] <rick_h__> for snap-l http://twitter.com/#!/pumpichank/status/147396710338019328
[19:26] <brousch> i want to do something like subscribe to a tag on bookie and have it pull those down
[19:28] <snap-l> Ooooh, that's nice.
[19:28] <brousch> rick_h__: is that possible? does bmark.us have an RSS feed for a tag?
[19:29] <rick_h__> brousch: no rss atm, it does have an api youi can search with that will hit a tag
[19:29] <brousch> hm
[19:30] <snap-l> Nice, like those old Music - 1 tapes
[19:30] <snap-l> save for using the actual master tapes, and not sucking.
[19:33] <snap-l> No drums for YYZ, though. ;)
[19:36] <snap-l> http://jammit.com/store/drums
[19:36] <snap-l> Check out the Buddy Rich song "Love for Sale"
[19:39] <brousch> damnit. surely this must exist
[19:41] <brousch> i just want a combined netflix/youtube/vimeo queue
[19:41] <snap-l> brousch: Good luck with that.
[19:41] <brousch> why does that not exist?
[19:42] <snap-l> Well, Youtube does RSS
[19:42] <brousch> i paste a link to the video in the service and it keeps track of what the damn queue
[19:42] <snap-l> That's how I follow that queue
[19:42] <snap-l> and netflix just takes care of itself.
[19:42] <brousch> but why is there no startup that lets me do it for any service?
[19:43] <snap-l> As of August 24th 2011, we no longer have permission to redistribute new
[19:43] <snap-l> Java packages as Oracle has retired the “Operating System Distributor
[19:43] <snap-l> License for Java” [1][2].
[19:43] <brousch> so i can see all of my queues in one unified place
[19:43] <snap-l> Oh that's just AWESOME
[19:44] <snap-l> Due to the severity of the security risk, Canonical is immediately
[19:44] <snap-l> releasing a security update for the Sun JDK browser plugin which will
[19:44] <snap-l> disable the plugin on all machines. This will mitigate users' risk from
[19:44] <snap-l> malicious websites exploiting the vulnerable version of the Sun JDK.
[19:44] <brousch> wtf
[19:44] <snap-l> I wish I could give Oracle a larger shotgun so it could blow their feet clean off.
[19:49] <brousch> so operating systems cannot distribute java any more?
[19:49] <snap-l> but hey, it means OpenJDK is essentially it when it comes to Linux
[19:49] <snap-l> Can't distribute the Sun Packages.
[19:50] <snap-l> And I wouldn't be surprised if there's talk at some point of making the official packages part of their commercial initiative.
[19:51] <brousch> i think i actually stopped using sun-jdk after 10.04
[19:51] <snap-l> I have it on some VMs for Eclipse testing
[19:51] <snap-l> but I'm using OpenJDK otherwise.
[19:51] <brousch> eclipse works with openjdk
[19:52] <snap-l> Yes, but I wanted as few differences as possible
[19:52] <Wolfger> snap-l: I know you like p.se, so here's your idiocy of the day: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/38987/whats-worse-paying-for-bad-software-or-pirating-good-software
[19:53] <snap-l> Wolfger: Thanks, my head hadn't hit my desk nearly as hard up until this point
[19:54] <snap-l> Solution: Post on p.se and do neither. Problem solved. – CraigM
[19:55] <snap-l> God, that's a stupid question
[20:00] <Wolfger> I particularly like the part where he effectively says "don't offer me any real solutions, just pick A or B from the options I've prepared"
[20:01] <brousch> son of a bitch. my tim horton's opened today and i missed it
[20:03] <Wolfger> brousch: Psst. It's still "today" for several more hours...
[20:04] <snap-l> jcastro: http://i.imgur.com/uyxfU.jpg <-Here's my new Slayer Wallpaper. ;)
[20:05] <brousch> yeah, tim horton's is for breakfast
[20:06] <brousch> snap-l: it looks like speakers
[20:06] <snap-l> brousch: Did you see the Big 4 concert?
[20:06] <brousch> no
[20:07] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ls7P_shqBc
[20:07] <snap-l> Look at their stage set-up
[20:10] <brousch> looks loud
[20:10] <snap-l> Yeah, the other bands had these elaborate stages
[20:11] <snap-l> and Slayer just showed up with a semi full of Marshall Stacks
[20:11] <snap-l> Commented on that when jcastro was showing me the Big Four concert
[20:12] <jcastro> yeah
[20:12] <jcastro> they never change
[20:12] <jcastro> wall of marshalls
[20:13] <snap-l> I swear, if they ever did change, they'd probably get death threats.
[21:14] <ColonelPanic001> don't be absurd
[21:15] <ColonelPanic001> I would never threaten anyone that looks like Kerry King.
[21:16] <brousch> never? even if they were eating your precious cats?
[21:21] <snap-l> Yay, Comcast is raising prices
[21:22] <snap-l> Wow, installing networking went from $75 to $119
[21:24] <brousch> does anyone actually pay for that?
[21:24] <brousch> i've always had it waived
[21:26] <snap-l> Well, they also added a $10 fee to send you the kit.
[21:26] <snap-l> Doing everything in their power to squeeze a dime
[21:56] <jcastro> snap-l:
[21:56] <jcastro> I need your help
[21:56] <jcastro> I can't find anything about this
[21:56] <jcastro> we need to find out if Metallica Binge and Purge was filmed on .... film
[21:56] <jcastro> instead of tape
[21:57] <snap-l> Hmm.
[21:57] <jcastro> so I can be sure that someday there might be hope for it coming out in 1080p
[21:57] <snap-l> I doubt it
[21:57] <snap-l> I think that shit was video tape
[21:58] <jcastro> but like, most of the new concert films that are coming out are from the 1970's and come out looking awesome
[21:58] <jcastro> they were huge when it was filmed, I am hoping it's really on real film
[21:58] <snap-l> Check IMDB
[21:58] <snap-l> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0202456/fullcredits#cast
[21:58] <snap-l> It might have been filed after all
[21:58] <snap-l> filmed, even
[21:59] <snap-l> Jeff Richter ....camera operator: super 8
[21:59] <snap-l> so, it's still shitty film, but film nonetheless.
[21:59] <snap-l> at least for some of it
[21:59] <snap-l> Layna McAllister ....film loader
[21:59] <snap-l> Yep, film
[22:00] <snap-l> Though they'd also have to make sure to have kept that film safe
[22:01] <snap-l> jcastro: ^^
[22:02] <jcastro> yep
[22:03] <jcastro> snap-l: it'll be 4:3 but still
[22:03] <snap-l> It'll be 1989 Metallica, but still. ;)
[22:03] <snap-l> (that would be awesome)
[22:05] <snap-l> jcastro: You don't happen to have Cliff 'em All, do you?
[22:07] <snap-l> jcastro: You need this in Blu-Ray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELpmmeT69cE
[22:08] <snap-l> Oh God, this video is terrible
[22:09] <snap-l> Not sure what the hell the animal part is all about
[22:24] <snap-l> I really hate the effects on this video: http://vimeo.com/14420598