[02:00] micahg, i am presuming that at some point i will need to add "Conflicts: ..." into the new ubuntustudio packages to keep from pulling in some of the older and now unused packages [02:01] for example, ubuntustudio-theme will no longer be needed, or ubuntustudio-menu, or ubuntustudio-icon-theme, etc [02:09] right, conflicts unless you're using transitional packages (which might help for LTS -> LTS upgrades if you support them or upgrades in general) [02:09] if you're using transitional packages, you'll want a versioned breaks/replaces when you switch to the transitional package [02:44] by the way, i will be using your suggestion about including nautilus and thunar together for the time being [02:45] i'm not sure i am get my head around how to do the transitional package correctly right now [02:51] i'm not a fan of upgrades in general, especially for LTS -> LTS as they alway seems problematic [02:52] however, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to accommodate them [02:53] micahg, i am familiar with transitional packages, i did one for transitioning from audio seed to audio-common, audio-generation, and audio-recording [02:53] but i would appreciate a quick overview on what i might need to do [02:53] i would presume that i need to make updates for the current packages that will no longer be needed, but make them depend on the new packages [02:54] which will be a little weird as something like six packages are resolved into two packages now and i'm not exactly sure how that will be structured [02:55] i'm also going to be a little unsure about the versioned breaks/replaces at this point [02:55] let me finish mapping the changes as they are now and then i should have a better feeling about this [02:55] ScottL: the transitional packages are just binary entries in debian/control in the source that's taking over [02:57] micahg, but is it using the same binary name as the old, deprecated binaries? [02:58] yes, that's how it's transitional [02:58] right [02:58] but with a newer version [02:58] well, versions usually come from the source package [03:43] oh, yeah [03:43] but won't this be kinda weird? some of the current packages aren't aligned with version numbers [03:44] i know that one of the currently used packages is at something like version 40, but the rest are at versions like 0.20 [03:44] when i do my final mapping of packages and functions i'll include version numbers too [04:03] ScottL: in that case, Conflicts/Replaces might be fine, let's see what the various upgrade paths are, then we can decide