[07:20] <dpm> good morning everyone
[09:10] <jml> good morning
[09:10] <noodles775> Morning jml - are the connection woes getting sorted?
[09:11] <jml> noodles775: maybe? Virgin's engineer will come next week to upgrade us to 50Mbit
[09:11] <noodles775> Great
[09:11] <jml> noodles775: not sure about the escalation on our other network problem
[09:19] <dpm> jml, is the installation in /opt requirement only for ARB apps? I thought it was for all apps
[09:20] <jml> dpm: well, it's for all apps, but I thought we were talking about an open source one here.
[09:20] <jml> since it was zero cost.
[09:21] <dpm> jml, ah, I see. The way I read the reply made me think that the requirement is only for open source apps, but not for commercial apps
[09:22] <jml> dpm: well, tbh, I'm not sure it *is* policy for commercial apps
[09:22] <jml> dpm: if they give us a tarball, that's what we do with it.
[09:23] <jml> dpm: but if they gave us a proper debian source package that installed to standard paths I'm not sure we'd change it
[09:23] <jml> dpm: don't know how I'd figure that out either
[09:24] <noodles775> jml: what if myapps allowed a ppa/package name to be specified instead of an upload?
[09:24] <jml> noodles775: hmm.
[09:25] <dpm> jml, you mean figure it out in pkgme?
[09:25] <jml> noodles775: I guess then we'd have a source package and a traceable build
[09:25] <jml> dpm: no, I mean figure out whether it's policy or not :)
[09:25] <dpm> jml, ah, I see :)
[09:25] <jml> noodles775: we'd need the version also, I think.
[09:25] <noodles775> jml: right, so the revieweer has everything they need already?
[09:26] <noodles775> jml: yep.
[09:26] <jml> noodles775: so maybe a .dsc in a trusted location
[09:26] <jml> noodles775: yeah, I think o.
[09:26] <jml> so
[09:38] <jml> new qt creator in precise
[09:38] <jml> (it crashed on me, and doesn't fix my menu bar bug)
[09:54] <ajmitch> it's a little worrying that install paths are *still* unclear & being debated now :)
[12:26] <coolbhavi> wendar, hi
[12:48] <jml> I'm having no luck w/ Qt Creator in precise
[12:48] <jml> Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyse the problem and send a report to the developers.
[13:29] <jml> \o/ menu bar problem w/ qt creator sorted out
[13:29] <jml> was in fullscreen mode
[13:29] <jml> Toggle w/ Ctrl-Shift-F11 (thanks to kkoehne on #qt-creator)
[15:49] <james_w> jml, 10 minutes then sdk?
[15:50] <jml> james_w: yeah.
[15:50]  * jml races out
[16:23] <wendar> coolbhavi: hi
[19:49] <tomtiger11> Hi
[19:49] <tomtiger11> Im making a package in PHP, but i dont know much about debian source packages
[19:50] <tomtiger11> so, how do i go around this?
[19:52] <tomtiger11> *cough*
[19:52]  * tomtiger11 coughs a little bit louder | *COugh*
[19:58] <tomtiger11> Hello?
[20:05] <JanC> 13 minutes...
[20:18] <zoopster> does janc need 13 min?
[20:19] <zoopster> so tomtiger11 what do you want to do?  you've made a php app and want to package it up as a deb?
[20:19] <JanC> zoopster: he left (after 13 minutes)
[20:19] <zoopster> heh
[20:19] <zoopster> didn't even notice
[20:20] <zoopster> glad to see he's patient
[20:21]  * zoopster needs to pay more attention to the little things sometimes