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[10:31] <wagafo> Bug 862129 seems to be "Fix Released". Bug 877852 seems to be a long list of duplicates of the previous bug, which cannot be duped because of a Launchpad bug, maybe it can also be marked as Fix Released. Same thing for bug 878122. There seems to be some other potential duplicates marked as new, confirmed or incomplete.
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 862129 in update-inetd (Debian) (and 11 other projects) "samba postrm depends on packages not guaranteed to be configured (affects: 76) (dups: 75) (heat: 543)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862129
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 877852 in samba (Ubuntu) "samba failed to install when updating from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 63) (dups: 61) (heat: 501)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877852
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878122 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade duing upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 6) (dups: 4) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878122
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[10:59] <sagaci> I just reported -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/905260 ... would be a good one to pass around for someone who wants to fix their first bug :)
[10:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905260 in banshee (Ubuntu) "typo located ../src/Extensions/Banshee.OpticalDisc/Banshee.OpticalDisc.Dvd/DvdService.cs:92 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[11:08] <Snicksie> sagaci, I can fix it, but I'm not sure if someone else would like to do this bug because it's a perfect 'first-bug-fix'-bug
[11:08] <Snicksie> I'm also a beginner at fixing bugs though
[11:30] <sagaci> Snicksie: well there's always this one too, needs filing and fixing -- https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/libgda4/+pots/libgda-4.0/en_AU/714/+translate
[11:30]  * Snicksie takes a look :)
[11:31] <Snicksie> i see :)
[11:32] <sagaci> and also https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gdb/+pots/gdb/en_AU/1379/+translate
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[15:34] <bil21al> test
[15:37] <om26er> 10secs
[15:38] <bil21al> omg har guja
[15:54] <davmor2> hey guys is there an apport/ubuntu-bug hook for wifi?
[15:56] <hggdh> davmor2: network-manager?
[15:57] <davmor2> hggdh: could be I just wondered if there was one specific or not I'll go with that :)  thanks
[15:57] <hggdh> davmor2: most of the times you can also use linux itself, if the driver is provided by the kernel
[15:59] <davmor2> hggdh: it's the fact that it isn't that I'm trying to report :)  USB2 RAlink wireless N dongle worked fine in Oneiric and natty but not at all in precise
[16:01] <hggdh> davmor2: ah. Well, might be in some places, but still the kernel sounds a nice try -- mostly if it is not being recognised
[16:06] <hggdh> gah. My old laptop, running Oneiric, had the wireless vanishing
[16:08] <ogra_> thats what you get by not running dev releases :P
[16:17] <bil21al> have any body else see the problem with launchpad that we cant see the next page of our  bug list
[16:17] <bil21al> ?
[16:39] <bil21al> seb128:
[16:39] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-butterfly/+bug/902850
[16:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 902850 in telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu) "can't sign into msn with some email domains (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:39] <bil21al> have a look please and set it
[16:39] <seb128> bil21al, can you ping kenvandine on #ubuntu-desktop about telepathy,empathy issues rather?
[16:39] <seb128> he's the maintainer
[16:40] <bil21al> ohh ok
[16:40] <bil21al> but it not his issue  i think we can handle it the reporter changing status to confirm by him self
[17:08] <hggdh> bil21al: confirming a bug must be done by someone else, not the original reporter
[18:12] <CarlFK> my wxPython worked in 10.10 and then code developed a bug in 11.x and a precise daily I tried.
[18:13] <CarlFK> I am trying to figure out how/where to post it so that it has a chance of being looked at
[18:13] <CarlFK> the app runs shell commands, like "ping" (my simple test command.)  it fails if the command is ssh
[18:14] <CarlFK> it used to work, a wxPython dev said "works for me, doesnt look like a wx bug"
[18:17] <CarlFK> what can I do to a 11.10 box to revert it's gui stuff back to 10.10?
[18:18] <CarlFK> or how can I update a 10.10 box one package at a time to 11.04 to see when my app breaks
[20:07] <JanC> CarlFK: is the bug in your code or in wxWindows or in wxPython?
[20:07] <JanC> you could try to find a minimal piece of code with the same bug...
[20:07] <CarlFK> JanC: well, it all worked as expected in 10.10.
[20:08] <CarlFK> my code didn't change, wxPython dev (who is probably on top of wx dev) didn't think it was a wx problem
[20:09] <JanC> there could be 10000s of reasons why it works in 1 version and not in the next  ;)
[20:09] <CarlFK> yeah...
[20:10] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/dvs-mon.py
[20:10] <CarlFK> that's the whole app
[20:11] <JanC> and what goes wrong?  ;)
[20:11] <CarlFK> I have done the "remove all un needed code to repo bug" dance with it for something else
[20:11] <CarlFK> very shot answer: the gui stops refreshing
[20:11] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/dvs-mon.py#L227
[20:12] <CarlFK>         COMMANDS=[ ... 'ping localhost', 'ssh localhost ping localhost', ]
[20:12] <CarlFK> keys setup so that no login is needed
[20:13] <CarlFK> ping localhost works, and while it is running, I can resize the window, and the wx controls all resize
[20:13] <CarlFK> ssh... worked in 10.10, in 11.04, I can resize the window, but none of the controls resize.
[20:14] <CarlFK> kill the ssh process, it comes back to life
[20:14] <JanC> right
[20:15] <CarlFK> I am using wx's process management api... https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/dvs-mon.py#L148
[20:15] <CarlFK> wx.Execute(self.cmd...
[20:15] <CarlFK> if I swap that for python's process, it works
[20:15] <CarlFK> so not a problem with ssh
[20:15] <JanC> hm, why not use Python's ?
[20:16] <JanC> Python's process management, I mean?
[20:16] <CarlFK> I am working on it, but I also need to poll for stdout/err, and that isn't as easy as hopped.
[20:17] <CarlFK> plus I have come this far in identifying a bug... seems sane try and report it
[20:18] <JanC> I'm not sure it's a bug per sé, there might have changed something in console I/O caching or whatever
[20:18] <CarlFK> well, it works with ping...
[20:19] <JanC> CarlFK: and reading stdin/stdout should be easy enough with Python's subprocess module?
[20:19] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/broken/dvs-mon.py
[20:19] <CarlFK> that's as far as I got :)
[20:22] <JanC> CarlFK: that doesn't freeze at least  ;)
[20:22] <CarlFK> swell
[20:22] <JanC> freeze the UI
[20:22] <CarlFK> so the app replaces a bunch of terminal windows with long running commands being monitored
[20:23] <CarlFK> very simialar to ping - tehy pop out stdout/err every so often.
[20:50] <hjd> Bug 902597 is a duplicate of bug 843734. However, since they are different packages, if I simply mark it as such other users will probably not find it. I wonder if the best might be to mark it as a duplicate, then add the other packages as affected projects in the other bug report?
[20:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 902597 in opennebula (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "opennebula-sunstone requested an impossible situation... apt-get (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902597
[20:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 843734 in ruby-sinatra (Ubuntu) "dependency problem, does not install (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 23)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/843734
[21:00] <CarlFK> JanC: oh yeah - the problem is managing multiple long running commands that are not outputting consistently
[21:01] <roadmr> hjd: hm what about just moving the opennebula report to sinatra? that's the one with the actual problem
[21:02] <roadmr> hjd: i.e. the opennebula package did nothing wrong and needs no changes at all
[21:03] <CarlFK> JanC:  so one command may be outputting every 10 seconds, a 2nd only every 5 min.
[21:04] <CarlFK> currently the 5min one blocks and I don't see the other apps output
[21:04] <CarlFK> I am sure it can be done, I just haven't figured out how.
[21:04] <CarlFK> and my wx app works in 10.10 so putting effort into using new stuff is making me grumpy
[21:05] <CarlFK> plus I am pretty sure there is a bug, so might was well get it reported.
[21:10] <hjd> roadmr: hm, well I thought about marking the opennebula one as a duplicate since I think the sinatra one contains more information. After all, it only needs one report. I just try to make it easier for others to find so that they don't post new duplicates :)
[21:10] <roadmr> hjd: yes, I understand the motivation - the natural thing to do would be to set the opennebula one to duplicate
[21:10] <roadmr> hjd: but as you say then it becomes invisible :)
[21:12] <hjd> roadmr: Exactly.
[21:12] <hjd> And I might be missing something, but I don
[21:12] <hjd> 't see how moving the opennebula one to sinatra would help. Because then sinatra will have two reports describing the same bug. Could you elaborate?
[21:13] <roadmr> hjd: yes, I was on crack :) I was just trying to keep both reports alive so that information is findable
[21:14] <roadmr> hjd: but it really makes no sense  :) I'd say make the opennebula one a duplicate of the sinatra one
[21:15] <hjd> so what about my original suggestion, adding opennebula/rack as affected projects to the non-duplicate one?
[21:15] <roadmr> hjd: neither one was filed using apport-bug so there was really very little chance of catching the duplicate
[21:16] <roadmr> hjd: hmm adding them as affected projects adds a "task" to the other project too, but I don't think anything needs to be done in opennebula
[21:17] <roadmr> hjd: ruby-rack appears to be completely gone, so what needs to be done is fixing the packaging in sinatra - at which point opennebula will magically start working again
[21:18] <hjd> roadmr: if you see the latest comment on the sinatra bug, someone has filed a backport request to get rack into Oneiric.
[21:18] <hjd> roadmr: but ok, I'm simply gonna mark it as a duplicate. Thanks :)
[21:18] <roadmr> hjd: yes, well I have no idea why it's gone from Oneiric heh
[21:19] <roadmr> hjd: np, if more dupes come in we'll just triage them :) and hope rack gets backported soon
[21:19] <micahg> roadmr: hjd: not gone, the package was renamed, and the backport probably won't go through since the fix should be SRUd
[21:19] <roadmr> micahg: oh! what was it renamed to?
[21:19] <micahg> roadmr: ruby-rack is the rename
[21:19] <roadmr> micahg: so then what needs to be done is fix ruby-sinatra to depend on the new package?
[21:20] <micahg> no, the rename is in precise
[21:20] <micahg> so, ruby-sinatra should be changed in oneiric to use the old ruby package
[21:20] <micahg> ruby-rack
[21:21] <roadmr> micahg: oh... ruby-rack does not exist in oneiric :( that's why oneiric's ruby-sinatra fails to install
[21:22] <micahg> right :)
[21:22] <micahg> so, whatever it used to be called should be there though
[21:22] <roadmr> micahg: ah, found it, librack-ruby
[21:23] <roadmr> micahg: ya, I was getting confused :) but it's all clear now