[01:42] <pangolin> hey folks, what is wrong with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ? does not seem to have the correct info
[01:42] <cjohnston> pangolin: ive notified IS... theres no revision history to fix it
[01:43] <pangolin> cjohnston: cool, thanks.
[07:20] <dpm> good morning all
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[09:47] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:45] <AlanBell> jcastro: http://valoriewalks.blogspot.com/2011/12/wow-its-been-awhile-since-i-posted-here.html
[10:45] <AlanBell> your standing desk has been trumped :)
[10:48] <popey> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302054_10150378755948857_514663856_8539663_1277070698_n.jpg
[10:48] <popey> ^^ jcm walking desk
[10:48] <popey> or 'ironing board'
[16:08] <jcastro> AlanBell: would you mind sending your comment on the limesurvey charm to the mailing list? I'd like to capture the answer there.
[16:09]  * jcastro is working on some FAQs and whatnot
[16:09] <AlanBell> what mailing list?
[16:09] <jcastro> juju@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:10]  * AlanBell subscribes
[16:10] <jcastro> acrtually, any questions there would be helpful
[16:13] <AlanBell> yeah, I feel juju and such should probably be interesting to me, but they all seem very instance-hungry
[16:15] <AlanBell> I haven't seen any examples showing how to start with a server running a lamp stack and then scaling out from there
[16:16] <AlanBell> as in starting from "sudo apt-get install wordpress" yay that works . . . one year later, lets split out the database and run apache on a separate box
[16:17] <jcastro> right
[16:17] <jcastro> I am pretty sure we don't do what you want yet
[16:17] <jcastro> but can't comment on it as intelligently as Clint can
[16:17] <AlanBell> I would be interested in writing charms for OpenERP and Alfresco and a few others, but they have to have a one box entry level starting point
[16:17] <jcastro> I know it's a priority for 12.04
[16:17] <jcastro> right
[16:17] <jcastro> you want the magic but not a ton of overhead
[16:17] <jcastro> that's absolutely a use case
[16:18] <AlanBell> I want to not get laughed at when I list the server requirements when selling a solution to a customer
[16:18] <jcastro> right
[16:18] <jcastro> "all you need is a machine that can handle 15 VMs at once."
[16:19] <jcastro> we do do containers, which are lightweight, but there's a tradeoff there
[16:19] <jcastro> it's more for testing that your charms can use multiple instances
[16:19] <jcastro> rather than "use LXC to deploy this on that one machine"
[16:19] <jcastro> which is what I want
[16:20] <AlanBell> so openERP has postgres, the application server and a separate web server, that would be three instances
[16:20] <AlanBell> having a development/test/production environment means 9 instances
[16:20] <jcastro> using LXC?
[16:20] <jcastro> no that would be 3 containers
[16:20] <jcastro> for LXC
[16:20] <jcastro> if you were using orchestra
[16:20] <jcastro> then yeah, you'd numbers look right
[16:21] <jcastro> jono: WB!
[16:21] <jcastro> jono: I have 2 things from while you were gone
[16:21] <jcastro> a) Ping Olli today if you can
[16:21] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:21] <jcastro> b) MSM is putting together the shows for the year and wants to know about charm schools, so if you could link up with Robbie that would be swell
[16:22] <jcastro> c) Also, dholbach secretly confessed to be that he likes Slayer.
[16:22] <jcastro> Note: one of those bullets is made up.
[16:24] <dholbach> jono, I've got a cold - jcastro must remember something I said in my delirium
[16:25] <jono> thanks jcastro :-)
[16:26] <jono> jcastro, I sent over the list to Robbie, waiting to hear back from him
[16:26] <jono> why do I need to ping Olli?
[16:26] <jcastro> jono: oh and I sent you a mail about putting the new AWS zone on the facebook account, I'll need that too pls.
[16:26] <jono> and as for dholbach and slayer, even the worst cold would not make that happen :-)
[16:26] <jono> jcastro, yep, doing that now
[16:32] <MrChrisDruif> jono; thanks for your reply the other day concerning flavors and derivatives =)
[16:33] <jono> no worries MrChrisDruif - Kate and I are going to try and get this language clarified
[16:34] <MrChrisDruif> Good luck on that, I think a lot of misconception is about that. Just today I've seen a lot of people talk about derivatives on a post on OMGUbuntu
[16:35] <jono> thanks MrChrisDruif
[16:36] <MrChrisDruif> If your wondering about what post I'm talking about: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/ubuntu-desktop-team-suggest-ubuntu-spin-using-gnome-shell-by-default/
[16:37] <akgraner> jono then some wording needs to be changed on the following pages - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives
[16:37] <akgraner> http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[16:37] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedDerivatives
[16:37] <akgraner> :-)
[16:38] <akgraner> glad you and Kate are working on it  - that's going to help a lot
[16:39] <jono> akgraner, yep, that is part of what we are working on
[16:40] <akgraner> jono sweet!  thank you..
[16:42] <jono> :-)
[16:43] <jono> akgraner, :-)
[17:02] <czajkowski> does anhone else want to be an admin on the loco contacts mailing list
[17:02] <czajkowski> we have me and 2 others but not sure how active they are
[17:02] <czajkowski> it gets a fair amount of spam
[17:02] <czajkowski> and a lot pf people posting to it with their wrong addresses so need to be modereated
[17:04] <MrChrisDruif> czajkowski; wut?
[17:08] <czajkowski> bah
[17:08] <czajkowski> wrong window I moved things around
[17:10] <MrChrisDruif> Still? What channel should've seen it?
[17:12] <czajkowski> loco council but it doesnt matter
[17:12] <MrChrisDruif> Haha, alright =)
[17:30] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day and take out the dog for a walk in almost freezing rain - yay
[17:30] <dholbach> see you all next week
[17:40] <jcastro> <--- lcunhin!
[17:43] <MrChrisDruif> lcunhin even =P (I think it's lunching ;-) )
[19:23]  * popey wonders why if we're using UK English and the Software Centre is called 'Software Centre' does the url https://software-center.ubuntu.com/ exist
[20:36] <jcastro> <-- caffeine break
[20:36] <jcastro> bbi 10
[20:43] <JoaoSantana> hi all
[20:49] <cjohnston> jcastro: we need a beer break
[21:07] <cjohnston> jcastro: the BP has been updated as per your request
[21:18] <jcastro> cjohnston: thanks
[21:19] <jcastro> jono: ^
[21:28] <jono> thanks jcastro, cjohnston
[21:57] <cjohnston> thanks mhall119
[22:17] <czajkowski> cjohnston: did the mail I sent to LTP yesterday go through?
[23:23] <bkerensa> cjohnston: You about?
[23:42] <mhall119> Pendulum: http://blogs.gnome.org/gnomg/2011/12/16/make-2012-the-year-of-accessibility-for-gnome/
[23:42] <mhall119> czajkowski: the with the questions went through, yes