[00:28] <chrisccoulson> fantastic, i've finally figured out why aptdaemon hangs here \o/
[02:43]  * Sweetshark has LO 3.5.0beta1 building in a precise pbuilder (well, going past ./configure for the first time that is).
[02:43] <Sweetshark> 4am local, yikes.
[02:43] <RAOF> :!
[03:41] <smspillaz> plugin models don't work
[03:41] <smspillaz> errr oops :)
[03:41]  * smspillaz wasn't scrolled down far enough
[03:54] <bryceh> hi smspillaz
[04:00] <smspillaz> hey hey
[07:44] <pitti> RAOF: ah, thanks for the pointer; that upstream revert sounds promising
[07:48] <pitti> bryceh: the missing -dbgsym is the main issue here indeed
[07:50] <pitti> bryceh: this is a fairly common scenario indeed; invalidating the bug in this case is the pragmatic solution, as it's not going to be useful for devs and would just further clutter the bug tracker
[07:50] <pitti> bryceh: but it should keep the core dump attachment in that case
[08:14] <rickspencer3> pitti, another morning of tasty beer for breakfast :)
[08:14] <pitti> rickspencer3: hehe :)
[08:14] <pitti> only two red dots left!
[08:15] <rickspencer3> indeed
[08:15] <pitti> and the server-ec2 test is "special" somehow, but I don't know the details
[08:16] <rickspencer3> looks like results are rolling in right now
[08:16] <rickspencer3> all green so far
[08:17] <pitti> still waiting on today's update test
[08:17] <rickspencer3> pitti, I've been using Precise on my netbook and it seems like a stable release almost
[08:17] <pitti> but not sure whether jibel blacklisted tdsodbc for the main-all test already
[08:17] <pitti> rickspencer3: the main bug that is annoying here are the gfx lockups
[08:17] <rickspencer3> of course, I expect that will all chance after the holiday
[08:17] <rickspencer3> I haven't gotten that one myself
[08:17] <pitti> bug 903652
[08:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 903652 in secvpn "package secvpn 2.22 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/903652
[08:18] <pitti> sorry, bug 903654
[08:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 903654 in linux "[i915] x200s locks up hard about once an hour" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/903654
[08:18]  * rickspencer3 looks
[08:19] <rickspencer3> *sigh* i915 again
[08:20] <jibel> pitti, I did, but I need to blacklist more packages on main-all and there are errors like
[08:20] <jibel> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/casper/casper_1.296_i386.deb Bad header line
[08:20] <pitti> eww !?
[08:20] <pitti> reproducibly/
[08:20] <pitti> ?
[08:20] <jibel> apparently
[08:21] <jibel> I'm checking previous logs
[08:21] <rickspencer3> bonjour jibel
[08:23] <jibel> good morning rickspencer3
[08:26] <jibel> pitti, http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/main-all-76.log there are a lot of these messages
[08:32] <pitti> ]url 1
[08:32] <pitti> (whoops)
[08:33] <pitti> jibel: hm, no idea about those, I'm afraid :( that'll need a look from mvo
[08:56] <bryceh> I got a i915 lockup today as well, but on a toshiba laptop - bug 905109
[08:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 905109 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Kernel lockup/crash while using desktop switcher in unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905109
[09:06] <seb128> hey
[09:08] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[09:08] <seb128> hey pitti, how are you?
[09:08] <pitti> quite fine, thanks!
[09:09] <pitti> how about yourself?
[09:09] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[09:09] <seb128> delay my holidays to tonight, still stuff to do (including uploading an unity sru candidate to the ubuntu-desktop ppa and a compiz sru)
[09:10] <seb128> delayed
[09:10] <seb128> I will take a day in the first week of january in swap for this one
[09:10] <pitti> heh
[09:10] <seb128> pitti, where do you start your holidays?
[09:11] <rodrigo_> morning
[09:14] <pitti> seb128: in Dresden :)
[09:14] <pitti> seb128: assuming you mean "when", my last work day is next Tuesday
[09:14] <seb128> pitti, yeah, I do mean when, I'm not awake yet ;-)
[09:15] <seb128> hey rodrigo_
[09:15] <seb128> chrisccoulson, lol
[09:15] <seb128> bug #904988
[09:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 904988 in unity "Support a "Rick Roll" mode" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/904988
[09:16] <rodrigo_> hi seb128, pitti
[09:22] <pitti> hey rodrigo_
[09:27] <rodrigo_> hi pitti
[09:30] <chrisccoulson> hello everyone :)
[09:30] <pitti> hey chrisccoulson
[09:30] <chrisccoulson> hi pitti, how are you?
[09:30] <pitti> chrisccoulson: I'm great, thanks!
[09:30]  * pitti is happy that he got postgresql to not fall over any more on our Panda board buildds
[09:31] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson, nice unity bug report :p
[09:31] <chrisccoulson> seb128, heh :)
[09:32] <chrisccoulson> i sat here and thought to myself last night, "wouldn't it be funny if i changed all of jo's launchers to open a video of rick astley?"
[09:32] <chrisccoulson> and then i thought it would be cool it unity had a mode to do that for me ;)
[09:42] <jibel> pitti, desktop i386 failed because the image is not on cdimage
[09:42] <pitti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20111216/
[09:42] <pitti> indeed
[09:43] <pitti> very strange,  I'll check
[09:51] <Sweetshark> moin all!
[09:54] <pitti> Sweetshark: moin moin!
[10:38] <pitti> chrisccoulson: hey Chris
[10:39] <pitti> chrisccoulson: for the maverick firefox packages that micahg is preparing, should we also drop the searchplugins/10.10/es-AR/google.xml stuff?
[10:39] <pitti> chrisccoulson: we only ship them in 10.10 right now
[10:42] <mcomisso> just read about gnobuntell
[10:48] <pitti> chrisccoulson: I mean in the language-pack-*
[11:03] <seb128> pitti, he's on holidays so not sure if he's around, but I guess he will pong at some point later ;-)
[11:03] <pitti> ah, ok
[11:28] <ricotz> seb128, hi
[11:29] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[11:29] <ricotz> just looking around a bit
[11:29] <ricotz> i am fine, thanks
[11:29] <ricotz> seb128, how are you?
[11:29] <ricotz> seb128, could you sync gnome-contacts from debian/experimental?
[11:29] <seb128> I'm good
[11:30] <seb128> ricotz, we can probably do that ;-) you reviewed the diff? we have no ubuntu change?
[11:31] <ricotz> i am reviewing the diff, there are no real differences
[11:31] <ricotz> i am just curious about "-  * Add missing depends on libfolks-eds25 (LP: #848843, LP: #846908)"
[11:31] <ricotz> which is a Recommends in debian
[11:33] <seb128> recommends should be good enough
[11:33] <ricotz> but this should be fine
[11:33] <ricotz> right
[11:33] <ricotz> so please sync it :)
[11:33] <seb128> ok
[11:34] <seb128> pitti, ^ is there any chance you could do that? I'm doing a rsync and a dput at the same time and my dsl doesn't like it at all, ssh is taking ages to (not) respond
[11:34] <seb128> will do in a bit otherwise
[11:34] <pitti> sec, done with perl in about 3 mins
[11:39] <pitti> done
[11:39] <pitti> seb128: sure
[11:40] <ricotz> thanks
[11:42] <pitti> err, *blink*
[11:42] <pitti> ricotz: sorry, syncing from cocoplum seems broken ATM
[11:43] <pitti> ricotz: I can run syncpackage from ubuntu-dev-tools, but that will give the credit to me, not to you
[11:43] <ricotz> ok, no problem
[11:43] <ricotz> do that
[11:43] <pitti> want me to, or want to wait for this to get fixed?
[11:43] <pitti> oh, ok
[11:44] <pitti> ricotz: oh, it has a --sponsor option
[11:45] <pitti> ricotz: done with -s ricotz
[11:45] <Laney> we should send a mail about that
[11:46] <ricotz> pitti, nice
[11:47] <ricotz> pitti, are there still auto-syncs running occasionally?
[11:47] <pitti> ricotz: yes, but I figure they would not work right now due to above issues
[11:47] <pitti> ricotz: we auto-sync until January 12
[11:47] <ricotz> pitti, ok, i am just thinking about other packages
[11:51] <seb128> ricotz, jbicha, Laney: what is happening with the desktop extra set?
[11:57] <ricotz> seb128, sorry, i dont know the status
[12:56] <Sweetshark> in my precise pbuilder java is not in path as /etc/alternatives/java is dangling. Is this a known issue/is there a known workaround?
[12:58]  * Sweetshark tries ln -sf /etc/alternatives/java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
[13:02] <Sweetshark> same for javac it seems
[13:08] <chrisccoulson> hi pitti
[13:08] <chrisccoulson> yes, please drop all firefox related stuff from the language packs. the firefox language packs have the search plugins now
[13:08] <xclaesse> seb128, does precise redirect g_debug by default ?
[13:09] <seb128> xclaesse, that's a question for the glib guys, we have current glib 2.31 but don't distro patch anything there
[13:10] <pitti> chrisccoulson: thanks for confirming
[13:10] <xclaesse> seb128, hm, ok, I'll ask
[13:16] <chrisccoulson> oh, nice, glatzor merged my aptdaemon fix already :)
[13:24] <xclaesse> seb128, FYI: <smcv> xclaesse: debug and info are silenced by default, G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all to get them back
[13:25] <Laney> seb128: pending, should get to it monday
[13:29] <seb128> xclaesse, yeah, I read that, thanks
[13:30] <seb128> Laney, ok, great ;-)
[13:30] <Laney> there were still some core packages listed so we need to weed those out
[13:30] <seb128> right
[13:34] <chrisccoulson> wtf, jo is sat here watching videos on youtube and some of the videos are preceded by chrome adverts
[13:34] <chrisccoulson> since when did that start happening?
[13:34] <dobey> youtube has had adverts for quite a while now
[13:35] <dobey> and if they are movies (which are actually from crackle) they come up much more often
[13:35] <chrisccoulson> i never noticed before
[13:35] <chrisccoulson> i clearly don't use youtube enough ;)
[13:35] <dobey> well, youtube on xbox is utterly useless :(
[13:36] <chrisccoulson> do the adverts depend on using flash?
[13:36] <dobey> no
[13:36] <chrisccoulson> ah, i was wondering if that might be the reason why i never saw them before
[13:36] <chrisccoulson> i don't have flash installed
[13:37] <dobey> though a lot of the videos do require flash, so maybe you're only seeing the unpopular crappy videos without flash, and they just don't have adverts :)
[13:37] <chrisccoulson> maybe
[13:38] <dobey> i tend to only see adverts on videos from sponsored videos, and not so much from random joe random uploading a laughing baby
[13:40]  * rodrigo_ lunch
[14:03] <ricotz> seb128, can this be made a sru for oneiric, it is large :\, but not having glib 2.30.2 seems not reasonable -- http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/glib-oneiric.diff (debian/* only)
[14:04] <seb128> ricotz, urg, that diff seems the opposite of what we want for a sru
[14:04] <seb128> like you want no packaging change in a sru
[14:06] <seb128> but thanks for the diff
[14:06] <ricotz> i know, just wanted to offer it
[14:06] <ricotz> i uploaded it to the gnome3 ppa
[14:06] <seb128> thanks to it I just spotted that somebody screwed the gsettings db handling while merging on Debian, seems to be pitti
[14:07] <seb128> ricotz, let me look at the .2 news, I was going for updating glib and gtk but the new gtk introduced several bugs which made me reconsider whether we want to sru those
[14:07] <ricotz> seb128, alright
[14:08] <seb128> ricotz, the NEWS seems ok, we could update, but it doesn't seem to contain a lot of "interesting" things we need either
[14:08] <seb128> like small fixes, but nothing that seems important
[14:09] <seb128> ricotz, do you want to do the sru work?
[14:09] <seb128> I can have a look after the holidays otherwise
[14:10] <ricotz> seb128, struggling with a sru isnt my favorite
[14:10] <seb128> ricotz, ok, no worry, I will have a look but after holidays
[14:10] <ricotz> that is fine
[14:10] <seb128> having a new glib uploaded in stable while everybody is away is not my favorite :p
[14:11] <ricotz> ;)
[14:12] <ricotz> seb128, btw, gedit-plugins could be synced too, but the dh_python2 transition would be lost
[14:12] <seb128> we should commit that to the debian svn then, so we can sync with the next upload
[14:12] <seb128> ricotz, do you have commit access to pkg-gnome?
[14:12] <seb128> can you do it?
[14:12] <ricotz> i have
[14:12] <ricotz> so i could do it
[14:13] <seb128> ricotz, if you want to do it that would be great ;-)
[14:14] <ricotz> i guess pygobject(-2) should be synced from testing?
[14:19] <seb128> ricotz, yeah, I think pitti wanted to sync the new gobject-introspection and pygobject
[14:19] <seb128> he was waiting for the testing migration
[14:20] <pitti> right, they got uploaded yesterday
[14:20] <pitti> I think we can  sync now, doing
[14:20] <seb128> ok
[14:20] <seb128> so everybody running unity, 4.26 (next sru) candidate is in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa/+packages
[14:20] <seb128> well at least precise builds are, oneiric are coming
[14:21] <seb128> if you want to try it testing is welcome
[14:24] <ricotz> pitti, seb128, good thanks
[14:33] <mterry> pitti, can you accept https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-unity-greeter for precise so it shows up in the work tracker?
[14:33] <pitti> mterry: I did this morning
[14:34] <mterry> oh, didn't refresh this morning I guess.  :)  Thanks!
[15:05] <ricotz> pitti, if you have a moment gnome-sushi can be synced too
[15:05] <pitti> ricotz: from exp or unstable?
[15:05] <ricotz> unstable
[15:16] <mterry> btw, merging gucharmap from debian
[15:18] <seb128> mterry, \o/
[15:18] <seb128> mterry, is back in business!
[15:18] <mterry> :)
[15:32] <seb128> kenvandine, imho you should just upload the new onboard to precise, it seems likely the compiz issue you got were not due to the new version
[15:33] <mterry> merging policykit-1-gnome
[15:33] <seb128> kenvandine, btw https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/precise/bamf/libreoffice-fixes/+merge/85966
[15:33] <seb128> that seems nice ;-)
[15:34] <seb128> seems marco keeps rocking!
[15:39] <kenvandine> seb128, will do
[15:39] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[16:43] <bil21al> kenvandine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-butterfly/+bug/902850
[16:43] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 902850 in telepathy-butterfly "can't sign into msn with some email domains" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:02] <pitti> good night eveyrone!
[17:03] <pitti> enjoy the weekend
[17:08] <mterry> Latest unity from PPA froze when minimizing xchat, FYI
[17:09] <mterry> Does anyone have any problems with uploading to PPAs?
[17:15] <seb128> mterry, works for me
[17:15] <mterry> seb128, just happened to me again  :(
[17:15] <seb128> mterry, but it's good that I uploaded to the ppa only for unity ;-)
[17:15] <mterry> I downgraded
[17:15] <seb128> mterry, did you get both the unity and compiz update?
[17:16] <seb128> mterry, did you update other stuff today?
[17:16] <mterry> seb128, no
[17:16] <mterry> seb128, no I didn't get the compiz update I mean
[17:18] <mterry> seb128, but there is no compiz update for precise
[17:18] <seb128> right
[17:18] <seb128> I was just checking
[17:18] <seb128> mterry, are you sure it's the unity update?
[17:18] <mterry> probably a precise thing
[17:18] <mterry> no, I guess not
[17:18] <seb128> like do you get a way to trigger it and it stop on downgrade?
[17:19] <mterry> not 100% reliable.  but it happened twice while minimizing a maximized window
[17:19] <mterry> haven't had it yet since downgrading, will see
[17:21] <seb128> mterry, I can confirm it, just happened in a guest session
[17:21] <seb128> dbarth, MacSlow: ^ unity SRU regression
[17:21] <MacSlow> seb128, noooo please no
[17:22] <seb128> MacSlow, we didn't upload out of a testing ppa so no need to freak out
[17:22] <seb128> MacSlow, but yes it's broken, will need to be sorted
[17:24] <seb128> mterry, 3 times in a row there
[17:24] <seb128> so I guess we can call that a reproducable bug
[17:24] <seb128> mterry, can you open a bug?
[17:24] <mterry> seb128, k
[17:24] <seb128> I will delete the ppa version and follow up on the list
[17:24] <MacSlow> bisecting that will be "fun"
[17:25] <MacSlow> mterry, do you have a bt?
[17:25] <mterry> MacSlow, no...
[17:27] <mterry> bug 905417 is all the info I have now
[17:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 905417 in unity "Freeze when minimizing windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/905417
[17:27] <mterry> MacSlow, is there an easy way to get a backtrace with Unity?  /me remembers a wiki page somewhere
[17:27] <seb128> mterry, I'm getting one
[17:28] <mterry> seb128, cool
[17:28] <seb128> mterry, it's as easy that gdb -p <pid> from another use
[17:28] <seb128> since I tested in a guest session I can get it from my normal session ;-)
[17:28] <mterry> ah, fair enough
[17:28] <mterry> :)
[17:28] <MacSlow> mterry, usually via running  it from a vt
[17:29] <MacSlow> mterry, but everybody has their own way :)
[17:36] <seb128> mterry, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/772446/
[17:36] <seb128> well MacSlow left
[17:39] <seb128> mterry, thanks for pointing it out
[17:39] <dbarth> seb128, mterry: thanks for pointing that out, it's been reproduced since
[17:40] <dbarth> seb128: sorry for the issue, you can remove the packages from the ppa
[17:40] <dbarth> i don't want you guys to look bad because we put that into /your/ ppa :/
[17:40] <seb128> dbarth, that's ok, I just deleted
[18:06] <akab> hi
[18:10] <Trevinho> seb128: thanks for the "rocking" thing ;)
[18:10] <Trevinho> Let me know if I need to backport it to oneiric as well
[18:10] <Trevinho> or the "smaller" (but working) fix is good enough
[18:12] <Trevinho> this one I mean: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/oneiric/bamf/libreoffice-fixes
[18:13] <Trevinho> However, if you prefer the better one, the full fix is ready to be asked for merge:  https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/oneiric/bamf/libreoffice-fixes-v2
[18:24] <kenvandine> Trevinho, i plan to look at that soon
[18:24] <Trevinho> coo thanks ken
[18:24] <Trevinho> cool*
[19:24] <ricotz> mterry, hi
[19:24] <mterry> ricotz, hello!
[19:24] <ricotz> mterry, i am looking at accountsservices 0.6.15-2ubuntu1
[19:25] <mterry> k
[19:25] <ricotz> was it intended to follow debian with admin>sudo?
[19:25] <ricotz> i think handling both group names might be better?
[19:26] <ricotz> in 0002-create-and-manage-groups-like-on-a-ubuntu-system.patch
[19:27] <ricotz> i think i misread the first hunks
[19:28] <mterry> ricotz, i'm not very familiar with that patch
[19:29] <ricotz> right, i noticed pitti added it
[19:33] <bryceh> jeez, precise sure is crashy for me this morning
[19:34] <ricotz> bryceh, still alpha ;)
[19:35] <ricotz> mterry, you mentioned ppa problems ealier? do you still have problems?
[19:41] <mterry> ricotz, I was having problems with sftp ppa uploads.  switching to just ftp fixed it.
[19:41] <mterry> I think I have some keyring issues here
[19:46] <ricotz> mterry, ok,i am seeing build failures without any log :\ https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+build/3015582
[19:46] <mterry> ricotz, seems bad....
[19:46] <ricotz> so it is hard to tell was is going wrong
[19:46] <mterry> ricotz, builds fine locally/in pbuilder?
[19:47] <ricotz> mterry, actually havent done this yet
[19:47] <mterry> never seen that in launchpad though...
[19:49] <micahg> ricotz: that can be a transient failure or if the buildd got removed from under the build
[19:52] <ricotz> micahg, thanks, there might be something wrong with the package